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ZachKC
10-24-2006, 10:02 AM
This could be interesting...how do you think these next 4 shape up?

Chiefs: Seattle, AT St. Louis, AT Miami, Oakland

Broncos: Indy, At Pitt, AT Oakland, San Diego

San Diego: St. Louis, Cleavland, AT Cincy, AT Denver

Obviously SD has the toughest road ahead...esp when you consider the hit that defense has taken. The Chiefs about as soft of a four game stretch as you can get. They will have to play football to win in St. Louis but KC winning 3 of 4 of those keeps seems likely and taking all 4 of those is not out of the question.

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:06 AM
This could be interesting...how do you think these next 4 shape up?

Chiefs: Seattle, AT St. Louis, AT Miami, Oakland

Broncos: Indy, At Pitt, AT Oakland, San Diego

San Diego: St. Louis, Cleavland, AT Cincy, AT Denver

Obviously SD has the toughest road ahead...esp when you consider the hit that defense has taken. The Chiefs about as soft of a four game stretch as you can get. They will have to play football to win in St. Louis but KC winning 3 of 4 of those keeps seems likely and taking all 4 of those is not out of the question.

I can't see KC sweeping those 4 games. They've been too inconsistent this season to think they'll string together 5 straight wins (Including this past weekends W against SD)

The broncos going 3-1 is realistic and 2-2 is not out of the question by any stretch.

The @ Cincy and @ Denver games should be losses for SD. The other two are winnable. I'd say 2-2 is realistic.

Rohirrim
10-24-2006, 10:08 AM
Well, KC playing the Seagulls w/o Shaun or Hasselbeck at least gives them a chance. I have news for you, cowgirl. The Broncos are winning their next four, so I don't really care what the rest of you losers do. ;D

DomCasual
10-24-2006, 10:10 AM
This could be interesting...how do you think these next 4 shape up?

Chiefs: Seattle, AT St. Louis, AT Miami, Oakland

Broncos: Indy, At Pitt, AT Oakland, San Diego

San Diego: St. Louis, Cleavland, AT Cincy, AT Denver

Obviously SD has the toughest road ahead...esp when you consider the hit that defense has taken. The Chiefs about as soft of a four game stretch as you can get. They will have to play football to win in St. Louis but KC winning 3 of 4 of those keeps seems likely and taking all 4 of those is not out of the question.

Chiefs 2-2

Broncos 3-1

Chargers 2-2

Conklin
10-24-2006, 10:12 AM
all i know, i'll be wearin my ***C shirt proudly in STL and rootin for a kc loss for that game :-D(am i pathetic to pay money to go and root against a team?

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 10:12 AM
I'm confident we can go 3-1. Miami and Oakland suck.

Denver is looking at 1-3, SD 2-2.

That would tie the division.

Dedhed
10-24-2006, 10:16 AM
Broncos 3-1 Lose @PITT
Chiefs 3-1 Lose @St Louis
SD 2-2 Lose @Cin and @Den

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:16 AM
I'm confident we can go 3-1. Miami and Oakland suck.

Denver is looking at 1-3, SD 2-2.

That would tie the division.

Dream on dork. More wishful thinking rather than any type of analysis. Thankfully we only get to be graced with you presence for another 8 weeks or so.

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 10:19 AM
Chiefs 2-2

Broncos 3-1

Chargers 2-2
2-2? Who do we lose too besides STL?

A broken Seahawks team in Arrowhead? The Browns or Raiders? heh.

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:20 AM
2-2? Who do we lose too besides STL?

A broken Seahawks team in Arrowhead? The Browns or Raiders? heh.

The raiders did spank a AZ team the Chiefs struggled with. That being said, the Chiefs should roll the faid.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 10:20 AM
Dream on dork. More wishful thinking rather than any type of analysis. Thankfully we only get to be graced with you presence for another 8 weeks or so.

I've seen enough from your team to know you have no chance of competing even at home with juggernauts like Indy and San Diego. That game at Pittsburgh will be Plummer's nightmare.

But Oakland does suck, so you've got that going for you.

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 10:22 AM
am i pathetic to pay money to go and root against a team?Pathetic? I wouldn't say so...trashy to wear around a shirt like that? No doubt.

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:25 AM
I assume you are busy typing up posts talking down to others who just posted their opinions without analysis? Ya?

Que?

Bob's opinion is wishful thinking. The Broncos are not going 1-3 over the next four. The broncos should beat the raiders and the bolts, and have a great chance at beating both Pitt and Indy. Bob's hoping the Broncos go 1-3 so that the chiefs have any shot at the division.

Steve Sewell
10-24-2006, 10:26 AM
I've seen enough from your team to know you have no chance of competing even at home with juggernauts like Indy and San Diego. That game at Pittsburgh will be Plummer's nightmare.

But Oakland does suck, so you've got that going for you.

Did you happen to catch that KC/Pitt game? "I've seen enough from your team"...LMFAO give me a break.

Rohirrim
10-24-2006, 10:26 AM
I've seen enough from your team to know you have no chance of competing even at home with juggernauts like Indy and San Diego. That game at Pittsburgh will be Plummer's nightmare.

But Oakland does suck, so you've got that going for you.

Man, am I glad I don't live in such a fantasy world. Of course, as a Cheffie, what choice do you have? Unfortunately, all Cheffies have some kind of weird myopia. They don't see a dominating defense even when it's playing right in front of them. Having never had first-hand experience of such a thing, they can't comprehend it. The dominating D of the Broncos will take out the Colts this Sunday. Put it in the bank, Baghdad Bob.

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:27 AM
I've seen enough from your team to know you have no chance of competing even at home with juggernauts like Indy and San Diego. That game at Pittsburgh will be Plummer's nightmare.

But Oakland does suck, so you've got that going for you.

No chance at competing in two homes games? You truly are a moron.

Steve Sewell
10-24-2006, 10:27 AM
Que?

Bob's opinion is wishful thinking. The Broncos are not going 1-3 over the next four. The broncos should beat the raiders and the bolts, and have a great chance at beating both Pitt and Indy. Bob's hoping the Broncos go 1-3 so that the chiefs have any shot at the division.

Well at least we know that Bob has NO SHOT at being able to post on this board come January.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 10:27 AM
Did you happen to catch that KC/Pitt game? "I've seen enough from your team"...LMFAO give me a break.

Did you catch the Charger game?

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 10:28 AM
No chance at competing in two homes games? You truly are a moron.

You guys struggled to put away the Raiders at home.

Manning will have all day to throw this weekend. Plummer's going to need 30. Think he can find it?

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:30 AM
Did you catch the Charger game?

The one where the chiefs gave up a 17 point lead?

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:33 AM
Manning will have all day to throw this weekend. Plummer's going to need 30. Think he can find it?

Again, more wishful thinking. The Broncos won't need 30 to win this game. Not even close. Did you see the Colts/Titans game? Just curious......

maven
10-24-2006, 10:40 AM
This could be interesting...how do you think these next 4 shape up?

Chiefs: Seattle, AT St. Louis, AT Miami, Oakland

Broncos: Indy, At Pitt, AT Oakland, San Diego

San Diego: St. Louis, Cleavland, AT Cincy, AT Denver



Chiefs: Seattle W, St. Louis L, Miami L, oakland W

Chiefs: 2-2

Broncos: Colts L, Pitt L, Oakland W, SD W

Broncos: 2-2

SD: W st. louis, W Cleveland, Cincy L, Denver L

SD: 2-2

Kaylore
10-24-2006, 10:47 AM
The one where the chiefs gave up a 17 point lead?

Yeah, that was funny. The Chargers have only beat softies and the Chiefs got blown out by pit on the road and then barely squeaked out a win at home against the Chargers. I see creamy softness all around that Chief team.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 10:50 AM
Did you watch the game? San Diego was the soft ones. Larry used them as his pillow.

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 10:53 AM
Did you watch the game? San Diego was the soft ones. Larry used them as his pillow.

I assume he was biting it?

Rohirrim
10-24-2006, 10:55 AM
I assume he was biting it?

LOL

OrangeShadow
10-24-2006, 10:56 AM
Denver 3-1 maybe 2-2
KC probably 3-1
SD 2-2

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 10:58 AM
Yeah, that was funny. The Chargers have only beat softies and the Chiefs got blown out by pit on the road and then barely squeaked out a win at home against the Chargers. I see creamy softness all around that Chief team.

So now the Chargers are not considered quality opponent? Last time I checked they have a pretty good defense.

And do you really want to talk about squeaking out wins at home? A team with its first week under the helm of a backup QB took your team to the brink.

I would give anything to face the Broncos offense every week.

Creamy softness? I will listen to such talk when you can find the endzone against our defense.

kamakazi_kal
10-24-2006, 11:00 AM
hey boobie.......... if denver beats indy will you leave for another month? please.

SoonerBronco
10-24-2006, 11:01 AM
Pathetic? I wouldn't say so...trashy to wear around a shirt like that? No doubt.

Like the guys that wore "Duck Fenver" shirts at the Broncos/cheeps game in Sept??

Works both ways.

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 11:03 AM
Like the guys that wore "Duck Fenver" shirts at the Broncos/cheeps game in Sept??

Works both ways.

Never said it didn't work both ways...

Pretty trashy. Not as much classless as it is dorky.

kamakazi_kal
10-24-2006, 11:03 AM
anyone know the early line for the bronco/indy game?

azbroncfan
10-24-2006, 11:10 AM
So now the Chargers are not considered quality opponent? Last time I checked they have a pretty good defense.

And do you really want to talk about squeaking out wins at home? A team with its first week under the helm of a backup QB took your team to the brink.

I would give anything to face the Broncos offense every week.

Creamy softness? I will listen to such talk when you can find the endzone against our defense.
Still counts as a loss, the same as the 45-whatever the queefs put up on Pitt. Better hope Queefs win Division because they won't make playoffs if they don't with losses to 3 AFC playoff contenders. Keep dreaming though.

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 11:13 AM
Still counts as a loss, the same as the 45-whatever the queefs put up on Pitt. Better hope Queefs win Division because they won't make playoffs if they don't with losses to 3 AFC playoff contenders. Keep dreaming though.

Thanks for your input, before that I didn't think that counted as a loss.

I also enjoy that Broncos fans have stamped our season as over. This just gets better and better.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 11:15 AM
Creamy softness? I will listen to such talk when you can find the endzone against our defense.

That's funny stuff. The Broncos have a creamy center....under center, anyway.

kamakazi_kal
10-24-2006, 11:17 AM
as bad as jake has been i still would not trade him for huard.

azbroncfan
10-24-2006, 11:17 AM
Thanks for your input, before that I didn't think that counted as a loss.

I also enjoy that Broncos fans have stamped our season as over. This just gets better and better.

Yes it is over if KC doesn't win the Division which is highly unlikely. Are you not smart enough to realize that losing to AFC teams isn't a good thing. Do you remember last year?

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 11:20 AM
as bad as jake has been i still would not trade him for huard.

I'm pretty sure we wouldn't make that trade either.

Now if you give us Cutler...maybe we can work something out. :)

Tredici
10-24-2006, 11:23 AM
I would give anything to face the Broncos offense every week.

Creamy softness? I will listen to such talk when you can find the endzone against our defense.


I think we can safely flip this comment. I think we can safely assume which defense would actually preside.

Good Gawd.

DomCasual
10-24-2006, 11:30 AM
2-2? Who do we lose too besides STL?

A broken Seahawks team in Arrowhead? The Browns or Raiders? heh.

You'll lose to St. Louis and then one of the other games. I don't know which one - I just think you've shown yourselves to be inconsistent. I could see you choking in Miami. I could see you choking this week against Seattle.

You guys are funny. You lose the first two games, and we don't see much of you. Then you lay a shellacking on a mighty 49ers team, and "things are coming together." You're suddenly dominant. Two weeks later, you're embarrassed by a Steeler team that's been wildly inconsistent, and we don't hear from you. Now, you beat the Chargers (the best 4-2 team in NFL history) at home on a fluke field goal, and you think you're going to start setting the world on fire again.

I see the San Diego and 49ers games, and I am impressed. But I temper my fear of you because I remember games like the Cardinals, Bengals, and Steelers.

I will say that I admire your audacity and unbridled optimism - you know, considering the fact that you're 3-3 and two weeks removed from a colossal asskicking in Pittsburgh.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 11:34 AM
Just imagine if we had our quarterback. Why, we might be leading the division!

DomCasual
10-24-2006, 11:40 AM
Just imagine if we had our quarterback. Why, we might be leading the division!

You had your quarterback for almost three quarters of the Bengals game, and you lost. Your quarterback wouldn't have gotten you any more points against us - you got one less than Tom Brady in New England. Your quarterback wouldn't have made a 38 point difference in Pittsburgh.

I'd say you'd still be 3-3, even if you had Trent Green.

And what do you do when he comes back? It's not like he was a young guy before the concussion. Can he go the rest of the season? I sure wouldn't count on it.

You guys should consider 8-8 a good season.

ScottXray
10-24-2006, 11:44 AM
Just imagine if we had our quarterback. Why, we might be leading the division!


Yeah..but you Don't

and you are NOT.

And wishful thinking won't change it.

Third place....is third place. If the chuggers collapse you might make it to second.

If Jake hadn't played like crap (especially in the St Louis game)we would be
6-0.. Weré not! Even with Jake we beat the Chiefs....If Cutler gets in you have NO shot.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 11:45 AM
Your quarterback wouldn't have gotten you any more points against us.

No way. We'd have put up enough points to win, easy. Our gameplan in that game was so hamstrung it wasn't even funny. I don't think we attempted a pass longer than 10 yards until the latter part of the third quarter.

The fact that we were still able to the run ball against you guys makes me believe that Green would have made a difference. The Broncos would have lost had Green played in that game.

And right now that one game is all that separates our teams. Lucky break for you guys, I suppose.

sirhcyennek81
10-24-2006, 11:47 AM
And right now that one game is all that separates our teams. Lucky break for you guys, I suppose.

hmm...5-3=2...am I missing something here?

:Broncos:

maven
10-24-2006, 11:48 AM
No way. We'd have put up enough points to win, easy. Our gameplan in that game was so hamstrung it wasn't even funny. I don't think we attempted a pass longer than 10 yards until the latter part of the third quarter.

The fact that we were still able to the run ball against you guys makes me believe that Green would have made a difference. The Broncos would have lost had Green played in that game.

And right now that one game is all that separates our teams. Lucky break for you guys, I suppose.

Does it really matter? You're still 3-3 and 3rd place in the division.

Florida_Bronco
10-24-2006, 11:53 AM
Don't even bother with Bob, he's made it perfectly clear he's just a stat man and knows nothing about real football.

400HZ
10-24-2006, 11:59 AM
It looks like Bob is breaking down the SD vs Den game into a loss for both our teams.


btw - please don't misconstrue this as me agreeing with Bob, but I'm pretty sure KC would have won in Mile High if they'd had Trent Green. You guys definetely weren't talking sh*t about the Chefs for a while after your OT win. Not that it matters at this point, of course.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-24-2006, 12:01 PM
hmm...5-3=2...am I missing something here?

:Broncos:

Yeah. Had KC beaten Denver, we'd both be 4-2.

maven
10-24-2006, 12:03 PM
Not that it matters at this point, of course.

It doesn't. Denver won. Chefs lost.

sirhcyennek81
10-24-2006, 12:07 PM
Yeah. Had KC beaten Denver, we'd both be 4-2.

But you didnt. This is known as reality.


:Broncos:

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 12:15 PM
What was fluke about the FG hell...he made one from 48...they backed him up and he made the real one from 53.

Let me guess...if Broncos would have made that it is called clutch...but for us its fluke.

Was your FG to beat us in OT in your own house against our backup QB where you didn't get a TD a "fluke" FG?

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 12:16 PM
It looks like Bob is breaking down the SD vs Den game into a loss for both our teams.


btw - please don't misconstrue this as me agreeing with Bob, but I'm pretty sure KC would have won in Mile High if they'd had Trent Green. You guys definetely weren't talking sh*t about the Chefs for a while after your OT win. Not that it matters at this point, of course.

Sssshhh, they still think our teams are worlds apart from one another.

azbroncfan
10-24-2006, 12:17 PM
Yeah. Had KC beaten Denver, we'd both be 4-2.

Had Oakland scored 45 pts a game they would be undefeated, Had they handed out preseason SB champs KC would be about 10 year in a row champ. had denver lost to Cle, the Browns O coord wouldn't of been fired. Had denver and the chargers lost everygame then KC maybe could make the playoffs. Had Trint not got hurt KC could be 2-4. Keeps going on you are a moron pickle smoocher.

kamakazi_kal
10-24-2006, 12:17 PM
What was fluke about the FG hell...he made one from 48...they backed him up and he made the real one from 53.

Let me guess...if Broncos would have made that it is called clutch...but for us its fluke.

Was your FG to beat us in OT in your own house against our backup QB where you didn't get a TD a "fluke" FG?

bitter

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 12:20 PM
bitter

Not bitter at all, I know what happens when the Broncos come to Arrowhead stadium.

kamakazi_kal
10-24-2006, 12:22 PM
Not bitter at all, I know what happens when the Broncos come to Arrowhead stadium.

and i know what happens come week 17

broncofan2438
10-24-2006, 12:23 PM
It looks like Denver can hold its own if something clicks on offense

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 12:24 PM
The idea that Trent Green wouldn't have done any better than Huard in Denver in that situation is laughable.

I have been reading Dom's posts for a while, he is a bright guy. There is no way he believes that.

Bronco LB 59
10-24-2006, 12:29 PM
Let the Chiefs fans enjoy their moment in the sun. A 3-3 start is a big deal to a franchise that only has one playoff appearance in the last eight seasons.

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 12:33 PM
Let the Chiefs fans enjoy their moment in the sun. A 3-3 start is a big deal to a franchise that only has one playoff appearance in the last eight seasons.

Chiefs fans are not happy with .500 or not making the playoffs...I will file this under the OM Mythology Section...right in between the "Broncos are the Chiefs superbowl" and "The Media Hates The Broncos" myth.

You are much better at stalking me on my website than the internet message board thing.

azbroncfan
10-24-2006, 12:36 PM
The idea that Trent Green wouldn't have done any better than Huard in Denver in that situation is laughable.

I have been reading Dom's posts for a while, he is a bright guy. There is no way he believes that.

I agree Denver would of probably lost if Trint played, but nobody knows and I looked at the standings and KC is 3-3 not anywhere does it say 3-3, had bad luck with injuries,would be 4-2 with Green. Injuries are part of the game and if your team isn't deep enough to overcome it they will suck. Gamble you take to be thin at a position just like Denver is at DT.

Atwater His Ass
10-24-2006, 12:39 PM
Let the Chiefs fans enjoy their moment in the sun. A 3-3 start is a big deal to a franchise that only has one playoff appearance in the last eight seasons.

I know. I love how Chief fans act like they are a top notch football team year in and year out when they can't even make the playoffs on a consistent basis.

Iowanian
10-24-2006, 12:39 PM
They don't see a dominating defense even when it's playing right in front of them. Having never had first-hand experience of such a thing, they can't comprehend it.

This is boarderline retarded. Do you remember the Chiefs defense with Carter and Hasty on the Corners...Neil Smith, Dan Saleamua, Joe Phillips, DT?

c'mon now.

Iowanian
10-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Donks 2-2
Chiefs 3-1(L@stL)
Bolts 2-2



If Jake hadn't played like crap (especially in the St Louis game)we would be
6-0.. Weré not! Even with Jake we beat the Chiefs....If Cutler gets in you have NO shot.

Of Course the Chiefs would have moved the ball better and more than likely scored more points vs the incestcos, as he'd have been able to take more advantage of your D stuffing the box and has a deep ball that was outside of Huard's leash.

Cutler? pffffft. He's an unproven rookie, rumored to have a rotator cuff injury, learning from Jake PlummINT, and now you're suggesting that your struggling offense, which now coincidently lost its best OT is going to dominate the Chiefs with that configuration? At Arrowhead?

Bwahahahahahahaha

Iowanian
10-24-2006, 12:50 PM
There are very few teams in the league, that aren't 1 or two plays from Fooked at one position or another. Think Indy is a contender if Manning goes down? how good would Denver's D be if Champ Bailey or Al Wilson went down?

Prior to Seattle's injuries, I figured that for an L for the Chiefs....with Seneca Wallace and a backup Rb.....I'm leaning alot more towards W.

Injuries are part of the game and if your team isn't deep enough to overcome it they will suck. Gamble you take to be thin at a position just like Denver is at DT.

Florida_Bronco
10-24-2006, 01:02 PM
Of Course the Chiefs would have moved the ball better and more than likely scored more points vs the incestcos, as he'd have been able to take more advantage of your D stuffing the box and has a deep ball that was outside of Huard's leash.

For that logic to hold any weight, you'd have to assume thatthe Broncos Defense played exactly the same, which is not true. We could just as easily say that the defense would have stepped up and shut down TrInt.

Cutler? pffffft. He's an unproven rookie, rumored to have a rotator cuff injury, learning from Jake PlummINT, and now you're suggesting that your struggling offense, which now coincidently lost its best OT is going to dominate the Chiefs with that configuration? At Arrowhead?

Bwahahahahahahaha

There is no injury to Cutler, that rumor was proven false pretty much immediately after it was posted.

Bronco LB 59
10-24-2006, 01:03 PM
Chiefs fans are not happy with .500 or not making the playoffs...I will file this under the OM Mythology Section...right in between the "Broncos are the Chiefs superbowl" and "The Media Hates The Broncos" myth.

You are much better at stalking me on my website than the internet message board thing.

If Chiefs fans aren't pleased with .500, then what's with all the chest pounding here at the Mane when your squad is two games out of first and lost the head-to-head meeting?

My IP address has never even hit your **** website.

ZachKC
10-24-2006, 01:06 PM
If Chiefs fans aren't pleased with .500, then what's with all the chest pounding here at the Mane when your squad is two games out of first and lost the head-to-head meeting?


Lots of football to play...and as you see above...a nice 4 game future for the Chiefs.


My IP address has never even hit your **** website.
You are a complete liar.

Tom A Hawk
10-24-2006, 01:13 PM
You'll lose to St. Louis and then one of the other games. I don't know which one - I just think you've shown yourselves to be inconsistent. I could see you choking in Miami. I could see you choking this week against Seattle.

You guys are funny. You lose the first two games, and we don't see much of you. Then you lay a shellacking on a mighty 49ers team, and "things are coming together." You're suddenly dominant. Two weeks later, you're embarrassed by a Steeler team that's been wildly inconsistent, and we don't hear from you. Now, you beat the Chargers (the best 4-2 team in NFL history) at home on a fluke field goal, and you think you're going to start setting the world on fire again.

I see the San Diego and 49ers games, and I am impressed. But I temper my fear of you because I remember games like the Cardinals, Bengals, and Steelers.

I will say that I admire your audacity and unbridled optimism - you know, considering the fact that you're 3-3 and two weeks removed from a colossal asskicking in Pittsburgh.


I think your post has some reason....but calling the FG a fluke? Made it twice from 48 and 53. Hardly a fluke

Bronco LB 59
10-24-2006, 01:14 PM
Lots of football to play...and as you see above...a nice 4 game future for the Chiefs.

There is no bragging rights in "penciling in" Ws.

Wasn't the Chiefs' game in Buffalo last season money in the bag?

DomCasual
10-24-2006, 01:52 PM
The idea that Trent Green wouldn't have done any better than Huard in Denver in that situation is laughable.

I have been reading Dom's posts for a while, he is a bright guy. There is no way he believes that.

Okay, that's not exactly what I said, or at least it isn't what I meant. I don't think it would have been a 9-6 game if Trent Green had played. I think both teams play entirely different games if KC was more of an offensive threat. But I think the Broncos are a better team than the Chiefs, and I don't really think the two teams are all that close. So, maybe if Trent Green plays that game, the score ends up 20-14 - I still think the Broncos would have won.

Of course, such arguments are extremely subjective.

I just don't think you can say, "Well, Trent Green would have probably gotten us 7 more points - so we would have won 13-9."

orangeatheist
10-24-2006, 01:52 PM
You guys are funny. You lose the first two games, and we don't see much of you. Then you lay a shellacking on a mighty 49ers team, and "things are coming together." You're suddenly dominant. Two weeks later, you're embarrassed by a Steeler team that's been wildly inconsistent, and we don't hear from you. Now, you beat the Chargers (the best 4-2 team in NFL history) at home on a fluke field goal, and you think you're going to start setting the world on fire again.



Bing-freaking-oh.

OrangeShadow
10-24-2006, 02:05 PM
You guys are funny. You lose the first two games, and we don't see much of you. Then you lay a shellacking on a mighty 49ers team, and "things are coming together." You're suddenly dominant. Two weeks later, you're embarrassed by a Steeler team that's been wildly inconsistent, and we don't hear from you. Now, you beat the Chargers (the best 4-2 team in NFL history) at home on a fluke field goal, and you think you're going to start setting the world on fire again.


point blank truth.

Bronx33
10-24-2006, 02:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomCasual
You guys are funny. You lose the first two games, and we don't see much of you. Then you lay a shellacking on a mighty 49ers team, and "things are coming together." You're suddenly dominant. Two weeks later, you're embarrassed by a Steeler team that's been wildly inconsistent, and we don't hear from you. Now, you beat the Chargers (the best 4-2 team in NFL history) at home on a fluke field goal, and you think you're going to start setting the world on fire again



But but but tynes has nerves of steel!

Iowanian
10-24-2006, 02:13 PM
and i know what happens come week 17

Indy beats you by 45?

DenverBrit
10-24-2006, 02:14 PM
The idea that Trent Green wouldn't have done any better than Huard in Denver in that situation is laughable.

I have been reading Dom's posts for a while, he is a bright guy. There is no way he believes that.


Why? Denver went to NE the following week and easily beat NE in their house.
I guess KC fans think Green is better than Brady?

Relevent? probably not.....no more relevent than trying to replay the game as a win if Green had played. He didn't and KC didn't win, can't change that fact.

DomCasual
10-24-2006, 02:15 PM
I think your post has some reason....but calling the FG a fluke? Made it twice from 48 and 53. Hardly a fluke

You're right - it was impressive. I take it back.

But there is no way it should have come down to that. I didn't watch the second half of the game, so I don't completely know what happened. But there's no way a team should give up a 14-point 4th Quarter lead at home. I'm honestly surprised that the Chargers didn't score on their last drive of the 4th Quarter to take the lead - they probably would have, if it wasn't for the holding call that killed their momentum.

When you guys were up 20-3, I started some half-baked thread here about the Chargers being the best 4-2 team in the NFL. Then I watched the last part of the first half. After the sequence at the end of the half, I was worried that you guys were going to choke. 1st down at about the 40 with over a minute to go and three timeouts. Handoff. Let :30 run off the clock. Frantically call timeout. Handoff. Half over. Welcome to the Herm Edwards school of clock management.

I really think you guys are in for a long season. I can't put my finger on what I think the problem is. I've never been a big Herm Edwards fan, for one thing; I don't think your OL will get the job done on a sustained basis (LJ @ 3.7 YPC? That's not going to cut it); I have no confidence in Trent Green's ability to stay healthy after the kind of injury he took; I guess it's a lot of things. I think you'll continue to have some impressive wins, followed by head-scratching losses - resulting in a final record of 7-9 or 8-8.

Master___Pain
10-24-2006, 02:16 PM
Indy beats you by 45?

Ummm.....hard for them to beat us by 45 when we play the 49ers in week 17. Dumbass.

telluride
10-24-2006, 04:47 PM
This could be interesting...how do you think these next 4 shape up?

Chiefs: Seattle, AT St. Louis, AT Miami, Oakland

Broncos: Indy, At Pitt, AT Oakland, San Diego

San Diego: St. Louis, Cleavland, AT Cincy, AT Denver



Sadly, given respective injuries, suspensions, and so on -- and assuming that Jake continues to start:

Chiefs: 3-1
Bronx: 2-2
S.D.: 3-1

ScottXray
10-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Sadly, given respective injuries, suspensions, and so on -- and asssuming that Jake continues to start:

Chiefs: 3-1
Bronx: 2-2
S.D.: 3-1

I'd have to concur, although the Broncs and SD MIGHT swap one...Broncs 3-1 SD 2-2. Maybe.

If we lose the next two, then I think Cutler starts. It's sink or swim time for Jake.

SprintRightOption
10-24-2006, 08:27 PM
Sssshhh, they still think our teams are worlds apart from one another.

When the 2-4 Steelers "put something on yo ass" for one more point than 6 teams combined have put on us, they are not neck and neck teams.

Sarcastro
10-24-2006, 08:34 PM
I assume he was biting it?

No, he was the one ****ting up a thread with his stupid insults...oh wait. That was you.

DivineLegion
10-24-2006, 08:47 PM
How long is Ben out for cuase I know for a fact without him we will beat Pitt our entire team has that game circled and are out for Blood.

Indy has looked soft, eeking by the Titans, alowing a Redskins team who was apparently trying to lose hang around (the Redskins shot themselves in the foot)...I think thier D is beatable and with out the Run game we can stop thier offense. SD can be beaten to call them a Juggernot when they lost to KC, and Baltimore both teams we beat is rediculous, and Oakland is ****...We can win out but will probably drop one.

Broncojef
10-24-2006, 09:05 PM
KC's play-off hopes went down the drain when they signed Herm, thereby giving up a draft pick for a coach so lost he was being run out of NY and when the FO lost their plea to allow more teams into the play-off hunt.

Every year the Chargers play no one listen to ESPN and Berman acting stupid and think they are SB contenders in the early part of their schedule. When they play real teams they fall apart and thus are given the best team to never make the play-offs.

It takes some seriously blind people to tout a team on our board that lost to us and got thumped the way they did in Pitt. Seriously, at least come back when you have a record over .500 to talk smack. Why are we focusing on the next four games anyway? The fact remains we are 5-1 and on top of the division again. I sit in section 306 row 4 seat 13 if you want to try to find me on your big screen TV come play-off time Chef fans.

broncofan2438
10-24-2006, 09:13 PM
Yup just another KC fan talking s h i t, whats new? Just like those damn Chugger fans that are on here, DONT HATE US BECAUSE YOU AINT US!!!!

romo53
10-24-2006, 09:37 PM
I can see Denver going 1-3 No Lepsis is a very bad thing that we are overlooking. KC has a virtual lock on 3 wins and the Chargers...who knows...I can't figure them out yet and gotta see whet the suspension/injuries do. I wanna be optimistic but the Broncos offence hasn't shown a thing yet and can only be worse w/o Lepsis. I am a pessimistic bitch though!!! :thumbsup:

Master___Pain
10-25-2006, 08:16 AM
No, he was the one ****ting up a thread with his stupid insults...oh wait. That was you.

Tissue?

kamakazi_kal
10-25-2006, 11:07 AM
Ummm.....hard for them to beat us by 45 when we play the 49ers in week 17. Dumbass.

righty o' that's when the cheaps start packing for their vacation, and we take the west.........again

Iowanian
10-25-2006, 01:56 PM
Yeah...one game makes or breaks the season. Getting blown out by Pitt sucked.

Losing to Miami early last year ruined the Donk season, didn't it? Maybe that was losing At Arrowhead last year? I hope you enjoy some Loss Pie for dessert on Thanksgiving.


It takes some seriously blind people to tout a team on our board that lost to us and got thumped the way they did in Pitt. Seriously, at least come back when you have a record over .500 to talk smack. .

ol number 7
10-25-2006, 02:36 PM
all i know, i'll be wearin my ***C shirt proudly in STL and rootin for a kc loss for that game :-D(am i pathetic to pay money to go and root against a team?


I hate to say Go Rams but I guess I will. I hate the Redskins forever and a day. If we need the 'Skins to win for Denver to make the playoffs we don't deserve to go. I would take Al Quida over the 'Skins anyday. :afro:

ZachKC
10-30-2006, 09:48 AM
The dominating D of the Broncos will take out the Colts this Sunday. Put it in the bank, Baghdad Bob.

:thumbs:

ZachKC
10-30-2006, 09:49 AM
One game down for the Chiefs...

ZachKC
10-30-2006, 09:57 AM
Over the last 2 games, we've played 2 of the best pass-rushing teams in football.

Damon Huard has not only emerged unscathed, but we've opened up the playbook as wide as it's ever been. We're getting the ball downfield to Kennison and Gonzo has had, back-to-back, his best games in 2 or 3 years.

DomCasual
10-30-2006, 10:05 AM
One game down for the Chiefs...

No offense, Zach, but I don't feel any different about the Chiefs. 8-8. That was not a good Seahawks team without Hasselbeck, Alexander, and pieces of their OL - and you snuck by them. Win the next two, and I'll be impressed.

kmartin575
10-30-2006, 10:06 AM
It looks like Denver can hold its own if something clicks on offense

Does it still look like that?

Bob's your Information Minister
10-30-2006, 11:36 AM
No offense, Zach, but I don't feel any different about the Chiefs. 8-8. That was not a good Seahawks team without Hasselbeck, Alexander, and pieces of their OL - and you snuck by them. Win the next two, and I'll be impressed.

No you won't. You'll have more excuses.

"The Rams are pretenders. They haven't beaten anyone worth a ****."

"The Dolphins are a complete joke. You should have dominated that game."

DomCasual
10-30-2006, 12:55 PM
No you won't. You'll have more excuses.

"The Rams are pretenders. They haven't beaten anyone worth a ****."

"The Dolphins are a complete joke. You should have dominated that game."

Come on, Bob. Can you honestly say you think this Chiefs team has what it takes to make any noise this season? Come on, now - answer without your homer glasses on.

-Are you really going to cheat logic at QB for 9 nine more games with either a a) career backup, or b) an aging starter who is one decent shot from the end of his career? Huard's been a nice story, but he hasn't been starting anywhere for the last decade for a reason. And what happens when Green comes back? Do they plug him right back in? If so, what happens the first time he struggles? Sounds like a chemistry-killer to me.

-That mighty defense of yours has given up 20, 45, 27, and 28 points the last four weeks (I only throw the 20 in there because it was against the Arizona Cardinals - which is notable because of the degree of sucktitude they've achieved since). You won three of them - good for you. But trying to outscore everyone in shooting matches is not a recipe for success - especially when you have an iffy QB situation and a spotty OL.

-How long before the LJ train crashes? Is he going to keep getting 40+ touches? You wouldn't have won yesterday if he had had 10 less. He had 30 the week before that - which isn't terrible, I guess. He gets hurt, you're screwed. Michael Bennett isn't going to be a workhorse for you.

You've had one solid win - against San Diego. And even then, they are a team that almost never plays well there, and you almost choked that one away. 8-8 is as good as the Chiefs are going to be in 2006. You can spew homerism as much as you want, but it's not going to change reality. That is, the Chiefs are mediocre.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-30-2006, 01:08 PM
Heh. Whatever. Take a look at our schedule. It's extremely favorable.

The fact that we've clawed our way to 4-3 with a backup quarterback is a testament to the kind of team we are. And our defense is ranked 10th. They are much better than those point totals. San Diego scored two touchdowns on 23 and 30-yard field last week. Yesterday, the Seahawks offense scored three touchdowns, but one came on an EIGHT YARD DRIVE.

Oakland
Oakland
Miami
Denver
Cleveland

There's 5 wins that are stone-cold locks, IMO. That gets us to 9-7. I'm pretty confident we'll win the rest of our home games, so that makes us 11-5.

Yep. St. Louis will beat us, and so will San Diego. That's it.

Bronx33
10-30-2006, 01:10 PM
Heh. Whatever. Take a look at our schedule. It's extremely favorable.

The fact that we've clawed our way to 4-3 with a backup quarterback is a testament to the kind of team we are. And our defense is ranked 10th. They are much better than those point totals. San Diego scored two touchdowns on 23 and 30-yard field last week. Yesterday, the Seahawks offense scored three touchdowns, but one came on an EIGHT YARD DRIVE.

Oakland
Oakland
Miami
Denver
Cleveland

There's 5 wins that are stone-cold locks, IMO. That gets us to 9-7. I'm pretty confident we'll win the rest of our home games, so that makes us 11-5.

Yep. St. Louis will beat us, and so will San Diego. That's it.



Iam sure the blue bonnet D will find a way to screw this up, war gunther!

Bob's your Information Minister
10-30-2006, 01:11 PM
BTW, that OL isn't so spotty anymore. Huard has only been sacked 11 times. We played two of the top pass-rushing teams in the league and lit them up like christmas trees the last two weeks. Sorry to dissapoint.

DomCasual
10-30-2006, 01:16 PM
Heh. Whatever. Take a look at our schedule. It's extremely favorable.

The fact that we've clawed our way to 4-3 with a backup quarterback is a testament to the kind of team we are. And our defense is ranked 10th. They are much better than those point totals. San Diego scored two touchdowns on 23 and 30-yard field last week. Yesterday, the Seahawks offense scored three touchdowns, but one came on an EIGHT YARD DRIVE.

Oakland
Oakland
Miami
Denver
Cleveland

There's 5 wins that are stone-cold locks, IMO. That gets us to 9-7. I'm pretty confident we'll win the rest of our home games, so that makes us 11-5.

Yep. St. Louis will beat us, and so will San Diego. That's it.

I'll give you Oakland at home. Otherwise, I honestly don't think any of those games are locks. In fact, I think you'll be doing well go win three of them. They'd be locks if you were a good, consistent team. You're not.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-30-2006, 01:30 PM
I'll give you Oakland at home. Otherwise, I honestly don't think any of those games are locks. In fact, I think you'll be doing well go win three of them. They'd be locks if you were a good, consistent team. You're not.

Winning 4 of our last 5 isn't consistent enough for ya?

I don't think you realize how good of a team San Diego is. They are better than Denver, easily. We're going to roll over these other patsies.

Bronx33
10-30-2006, 01:32 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhhh the typical cheapie fan setting herself up for the big letdown.......again.

DomCasual
10-30-2006, 01:37 PM
Winning 4 of our last 5 isn't consistent enough for ya?

I don't think you realize how good of a team San Diego is. They are better than Denver, easily. We're going to roll over these other patsies.

Just make sure you pop in over here when it doesn't happen.

Bronx33
10-30-2006, 01:43 PM
Just make sure you pop in over here when it doesn't happen.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
I believe San Diego is a better football team than Indy, but that's just me. I still think they are top-notch.


Another wonderful bobo-ism.

ColoradoBuff
10-30-2006, 01:58 PM
I'm confident we can go 3-1. Miami and Oakland suck.

Denver is looking at 1-3, SD 2-2.

That would tie the division.

And I am confident that you arrived on the short bus! You have a better chance getting a date than the Chiefs winning the division!!!:chiefssux

RINGLEADER
10-30-2006, 02:03 PM
Every comment about the Chiefs making the last two games look far closer than they were are true. KC has had a maddening knack for fumbling deep in their own territory and yesterday was almost comical in the number of gaffes. As hard as they tried to give the game away though, they just couldn't seem to get Seattle to take it.

Anyway, the Chiefs defense - outside of the abhorrent performance in Pittsburgh - has been better. Turnovers have just been killing us. 14 of the points Seattle scored yesterday came from seven yards of offense.

All that said, when you look at the next six games I think Denver and San Deigo will drop an 'L' on each other and I think both teams will lose a road game to a division opponent (Denver at Arrowhead and San Diego in two weeks to Cincy). That puts both your teams at 9-4 after 13 games. Which is exactly where I think the Chiefs will be after facing their next six opponents (at Rams, at Dolphins, Raiders, Broncos, at Browns, Ravens). At worse the Chiefs will be at 8-5 and very much in the thick of it with at Chargers, at Raiders and Jacksonville to finish.

The AFC West will be very interesting down the stretch...

DomCasual
11-12-2006, 08:01 PM
Winning 4 of our last 5 isn't consistent enough for ya?

I don't think you realize how good of a team San Diego is. They are better than Denver, easily. We're going to roll over these other patsies.

Uh-oh, Bob. 1-1 so far. I said you'd be lucky to win 2 of 4 out of St. Louis, Miami, Oakland, and Denver. I'm standing by it. You'll beat the Raiders, then lose to the Broncos.

Chiefs = inconsistent. Inconsistent = 8-8 (9-7, at best). 8-8 = another missed playoffs. Another missed playoffs + old team = "Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome YOUR Los Angeles Chiefs!" :D

Bob's your Information Minister
11-12-2006, 08:39 PM
Denver doesn't stand a chance in hell of beating KC on Thanksgiving. Plummer is a joke.

I said we'd go 3-1 in this stretch. The first two games have been flipped. We're right on track, and our quarterback is coming back.

You ready?

OrangeShadow
11-12-2006, 08:43 PM
you lost to miami go home troll

azbroncfan
11-12-2006, 09:11 PM
Denver doesn't stand a chance in hell of beating KC on Thanksgiving. Plummer is a joke.

I said we'd go 3-1 in this stretch. The first two games have been flipped. We're right on track, and our quarterback is coming back.

You ready?

Why play the game then? Denver has only lost once in past 5 years where it wasn't a game and KC isn't no powerhouse. They could lose to oakland next week, unlikely but it could happen. Have some more ice cream boob.

Liebs
11-12-2006, 09:52 PM
Broncos 3-1 Lose @PITT
Chiefs 3-1 Lose @St Louis
SD 2-2 Lose @Cin and @Den

you're predictions are struggling

WoodMan
11-13-2006, 08:14 PM
As of yesterday's games.
Denver broncos 2-1
Kansas City barbequed Chefs 2-1
Sandy Eggo Steroid Abusin' Chuggers 3-0

Looks like it is going to end up 3-1 for all three.

DomCasual
12-28-2006, 02:49 AM
8-8 is as good as the Chiefs are going to be in 2006. You can spew homerism as much as you want, but it's not going to change reality. That is, the Chiefs are mediocre.

Bob, you should read through this thread again. You are a homer - not that there is anything wrong with that (I'm about as big a homer as there is). It's just interesting to see how things have turned out for the Chefs - mediocre, as predicted. Impressive wins (San Diego), followed by head-scratching losses (Cleveland, to name just one) - as predicted.

Good news, though - win this week and you surpass my 8-8 prediction.

But I wouldn't really count on your winning this week.