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enjolras
10-24-2006, 06:23 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15361462/

The more I read the sicker I get... another just DISGUSTING article about our fundamental trouncing of human rights. How did this nation come to this?

Rohirrim
10-24-2006, 07:30 AM
It's the Humpty Dumpty rule. People like Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Addington, Rove, the religious right, etc. etc. think that America stands for, "Whatever we say it stands for." You can ignore all those musty, old documents. All you have to do is hire lawyers like Gonzales and Addington who are willing to come forward and argue that the Constitution means whatever we want it to mean, to include an Imperial Presidency. It's the Kingdom of Relativity.

Funny, that the people who pretend to espouse the hard-rock values of the United States are actually the most egregious relativists, always dancing away from the principles of the founders in order to support their revolutionary, neocon agenda. The key attribute of the Dubya regime of neocon extremists is the idea that if the rhetoric is correct, nothing else matters. You can rob, steal, cheat, lie or violate the Constitution, but as long as you SAY you're not guilty, then you aren't. These are the kind of guys who sell driveway repairs to the elderly, get the check, and then skip town.

I quote George W. Bush EXACTLY: "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It is just a Goddamn piece of paper".

What's really kind of sickly hilarious about this is that so many conservatives in the U.S. are still backing these guys. This might be the most radical, spend-thrift, anti-individual-rights regime, centralized-federal-power freaks in the history of the U.S., and just because they CALL themselves Republicans and lower taxes on the rich, conservatives still vote for them. Barry Goldwater would have kicked their asses all the way down Pennsylvania Avenue as a bunch of cheap imposters.

alkemical
10-24-2006, 08:19 AM
You know, everyone laughed at me and called me crazy when i posted the "dictator" comment by bush.

fido
10-24-2006, 08:46 PM
You know whats really scarry as concerns the Constitution?

Article 2
Section 3

he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper

he can, pretty much, just get rid of both houses and truly become the Imperial Presidency in fact.

W*GS
10-25-2006, 09:26 AM
Now you guys are beginning to appreciate my views when it comes to those parts of the USC that say "Congress shall make no law..." and your fellow Democrats and leftys promptly claim otherwise.

All this discovery about the restrictions on government that the Constitution mandates and the following agitation over this administration's blatant disregard for them ring rather hollow coming from leftys, since you guys have been demanding an ever-more-powerful State for decades. You're lying in the bed you've largely made.

Do you like it?

alkemical
10-25-2006, 09:28 AM
Who are you talking to W*gs?

W*GS
10-25-2006, 09:45 AM
The folks who are getting the picture about how the government treats our rights and the Constitution.

alkemical
10-25-2006, 09:57 AM
Funny, i see it's directed towards 'lefties and democrats' - but i could have sworn that the 'righties & conservatives' are cheering loudly that they will be able to eat hungry man meals in saftey.

Meanwhile the gov't moves closer and closer to being a bigger threat to "me" on an everyday basis than any 'terrorist'.....

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-25-2006, 05:48 PM
It's the Humpty Dumpty rule. People like Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Addington, Rove, the religious right, etc. etc. think that America stands for, "Whatever we say it stands for." You can ignore all those musty, old documents. All you have to do is hire lawyers like Gonzales and Addington who are willing to come forward and argue that the Constitution means whatever we want it to mean, to include an Imperial Presidency. It's the Kingdom of Relativity.

Funny, that the people who pretend to espouse the hard-rock values of the United States are actually the most egregious relativists, always dancing away from the principles of the founders in order to support their revolutionary, neocon agenda. The key attribute of the Dubya regime of neocon extremists is the idea that if the rhetoric is correct, nothing else matters. You can rob, steal, cheat, lie or violate the Constitution, but as long as you SAY you're not guilty, then you aren't. These are the kind of guys who sell driveway repairs to the elderly, get the check, and then skip town.

I quote George W. Bush EXACTLY: "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It is just a Goddamn piece of paper".

What's really kind of sickly hilarious about this is that so many conservatives in the U.S. are still backing these guys. This might be the most radical, spend-thrift, anti-individual-rights regime, centralized-federal-power freaks in the history of the U.S., and just because they CALL themselves Republicans and lower taxes on the rich, conservatives still vote for them. Barry Goldwater would have kicked their asses all the way down Pennsylvania Avenue as a bunch of cheap imposters.


Good post! :thumbsup:

For Bush and the thugs around him, it's not about being right - it's about winning. It's about removing all checks and balances until there is no way they can be held accountable for anything.