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epicSocialism4tw
10-22-2006, 05:11 PM
3 sacks, 1 fumble recovery. 5 sacks on the season.

Cosmo
10-22-2006, 05:15 PM
A Good Question? lol

-Slap-
10-22-2006, 05:18 PM
My adopted kid has made me very proud.

I'm normally resistant to undersized players in the front seven, but Elvis' production throughout high school and college was just too consistently spectacular to ignore.

Barry Ramey
10-22-2006, 05:24 PM
I liked the pick at the time since I didn't think his size would matter since he figured to be part of the rotation and not playing most of the snaps, so wouldn't likely wear down. And that's how they're using him.

-Slap-
10-22-2006, 05:31 PM
He did wear down last year, though. He was absolutely unreal in the first five games and then he slowed down considerably. I thought that was why we held him back a little bit this year.

Clockwork Orange
10-22-2006, 05:39 PM
In the meantime, did anyone see the monster day that John Abraham had today?

Of course you didn't, he was inactive for the fourth time this season.

-Slap-
10-22-2006, 05:46 PM
Well, that's okay, John is only making 50 times more money than Elvis.

Headless Hessian Rider
10-22-2006, 05:47 PM
:sunshine: he's my adopted Bronco :welcome:

-Slap-
10-22-2006, 05:51 PM
:sunshine: he's my adopted Bronco :welcome:

Hessians stole my baby!

Clockwork Orange
10-22-2006, 05:58 PM
Hessians stole my baby!

http://www.rtsi.ch/prog/images/Trasm/film_ransom_mel_gibson-b.jpg

"Gimme back my son!!"

;D

listopencil
10-22-2006, 06:18 PM
He did wear down last year, though. He was absolutely unreal in the first five games and then he slowed down considerably. I thought that was why we held him back a little bit this year.


You mean in college?

BroncoBuff
10-22-2006, 06:19 PM
It's great to see this - we've needed this SO badly.

Ever since we lost Bertie Berry (who had 3 sacks and 2 FF today against Leinart)

Kaylore
10-22-2006, 06:26 PM
My adopted kid has made me very proud.

I'm normally resistant to undersized players
You could probably have finished your sentence right there. ;D

-Slap-
10-22-2006, 06:28 PM
You mean in college?

Yes. If I'm not mistaken, he had 15 of his 20 sacks in the first five games.

listopencil
10-22-2006, 06:32 PM
Yes. If I'm not mistaken, he had 15 of his 20 sacks in the first five games.

The only thing I know about his college career is that I think he's the guy Marcus Vick stepped on. Was Elvis a starter or a rotational guy?

Clockwork Orange
10-22-2006, 06:35 PM
The only thing I know about his college career is that I think he's the guy Marcus Vick stepped on. Was Elvis a starter or a rotational guy?

He was the guy who Little Mexico stomped on and he was a starter for Louisville.

-Slap-
10-22-2006, 06:39 PM
The only thing I know about his college career is that I think he's the guy Marcus Vick stepped on. Was Elvis a starter or a rotational guy?

He played every down.

In 2005, he had 63 tackles, 23 for loss, 20 sacks, and an NCAA record 11 forced fumbles. Dumervil won the Big East Defensive Player of the Year Award, Hendricks Award (Best DE), Nagurski (Best defensive player in the nation), and was named to everybody's All-American lists.

You can't rack up tackle numbers like that as a rotation guy.

listopencil
10-22-2006, 06:41 PM
I found some stuff from a few webpages. Surprisingly, I found this in a Wikipedia entry:

Elvis Dumervil (born January 19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_19), 1984 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984), Miami, Florida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami%2C_Florida)) is a National Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League) defensive end (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_end) for the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos). He was rated among the top 25 defensive ends by most publications coming out of Miami Jackson High School, where he had a school record 78 career sacks. His college career began slowly as a modest contributor during his first two seasons at the University of Louisville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Louisville); he tallied just 28 tackles and two sacks. John L. Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Smith)'s staff had planned on redshirting him during the 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002) season, but injuries and a lackluster performance by the defensive line forced him into the rotation.


He emerged during the 2004 season as a junior, getting 10 sacks and 11 tackles for a loss. His 2005 season was one of the best for a defensive end in both NCAA and school history, when he broke the NCAA single-game sack record (6) in vs in state rival Kentucky, and went on tie the NCAA total for sacks in a single season (20) and break the NCAA record for forced fumbles. His sack total also broke the Big East record set by Dwight Freeney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Freeney), who was one of Elvis' favorite players growing up. He won several awards for the 2005 season, including the Bronko Nagurski Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronko_Nagurski_Trophy), the Ted Hendricks Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Hendricks_Award), Big East player of the year, and first team All-American.
In the 2006 Gator Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gator_Bowl), Virginia Tech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech) quarterback Marcus Vick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Vick) stomped on the back of Dumervil's leg after a whistle. While no penalty was called, the backlash from this play (in combination with a misdemeanor charge for driving with a suspended license) led to Vick's permanent dismissal from the Virginia Tech football team.


Despite his 2005 season and comparisons to fellow Miami native Dwight Freeney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Freeney), Dumervil went on the second day of the NFL draft due to concerns about his small size (5'11"; 258lbs), and the fact that he went sackless in his final three games, which may have been largely due to being constantly doubled teamed, but was perceived by some as a sign of fatigue. Some teams also considered moving him to linebacker or only using him in pass rushing situations. Dumervil was drafted in the fourth round of the 2006 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_NFL_Draft) by the Denver Broncos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver_Broncos). Broncos coach Mike Shanahan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Shanahan) has stated that he plans to keep Dumervil at defensive end<sup id="_ref-0" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Dumervil#_note-0)</sup>.


He was named Elvis because his mother was an Elvis Presley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley) fan, although he dislikes the name and prefers to go by the nickname "Cool". When media ask him if he is an Elvis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis) fan, he typically responds by saying, "I figured you would ask that question." His half brother, Curry Burns, also played at the University of Louisville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Louisville).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Dumervil

chrisp
10-22-2006, 06:48 PM
From everything I've read about Dumervil, the ONLY thing that kept him out of round 1-2 in the draft was his height - NOT, I might add, his weight which is hardly any less than the likes of jason Taylor and John Abraham.

The height is considered a problem becuase it means less wingspan, but apparently Dumervil has freakishly long arms for a short guy, so isn't really disadvantaged in that area....after all, you don't need to see over the tackle, you just need to get around him!

Being a short-arse myself, I love to see the little guys confound the critics, so here's to hoping this great start to his career is a sign he's the next Sam Mills...I think its safe to say he won't be know for batting balls down at the line of scrimmage, however.....

DrFate
10-22-2006, 06:49 PM
I know that SoCal was down on the Dummervil pick - many others were pleased. He is one-dimensional, but as a 4th round pick - good value.

SpringStein
10-22-2006, 07:08 PM
Ever since we lost Bertie Berry (who had 3 sacks and 2 FF today against Leinart)

Now that would be interesting. Did those sacks and forced fumbles happen in the locker room or on the sideline? ;)

Clockwork Orange
10-22-2006, 07:12 PM
He is one-dimensional, but as a 4th round pick - good value.

Fortunately for us, that one dimension is the one that our defense has been missing.

eddie mac
10-22-2006, 07:19 PM
It's great to see this - we've needed this SO badly.

Ever since we lost Bertie Berry (who had 3 sacks and 2 FF today against Leinart)

Any wonder they lost then.:D

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-22-2006, 07:30 PM
Congrats to Elvis. I was a doubter and I still don't see him as an every down player, but as a designated pash rusher he is doing very well. Hope he and Preditor put Manning on his ass a dozen times next week.

DeuceOfClub
10-22-2006, 07:30 PM
It's great to see this - we've needed this SO badly.

Ever since we lost Bertie Berry (who had 3 sacks and 2 FF today against Leinart)

:wiggle:

DBroncos4life
10-22-2006, 07:31 PM
I wanted him way before the draft. :approve:

SoCalBronco
10-22-2006, 07:32 PM
I know that SoCal was down on the Dummervil pick - many others were pleased. He is one-dimensional, but as a 4th round pick - good value.

Yes, that is correct. I was down on Dumervil after his poor performances at the Senior Bowl practices. There were also a few games last season when I watched him that I wasn't too impressed, but he has really come on...and he looked pretty good in camp agains the backup OTs and had some decent plays against the first string line. He is doing a fine job right now, he's really been racking up the sacks the last few weeks. I really wanted (as well as Big Guy) Mark Anderson in the 4th, but I am glad we got Dumervil too, now. I'm glad I was wrong on the kid. I believe Slap in the chatroom during the draft was very happy with the pick and Requiem as well. I know DB liked him alot last year too.

epicSocialism4tw
10-23-2006, 08:51 AM
Congrats to Elvis. I was a doubter and I still don't see him as an every down player, but as a designated pash rusher he is doing very well. Hope he and Preditor put Manning on his ass a dozen times next week.

At least we now have some hope that our defense can apply pressure on third and long.

Dedhed
10-23-2006, 09:04 AM
I loved seeing him get to the QB with a flat out bull rush. He showed he has some versatility in getting to the QB.

SpringStein
10-23-2006, 09:41 AM
Yes, that is correct. I was down on Dumervil after his poor performances at the Senior Bowl practices. There were also a few games last season when I watched him that I wasn't too impressed, but he has really come on...and he looked pretty good in camp agains the backup OTs and had some decent plays against the first string line. He is doing a fine job right now, he's really been racking up the sacks the last few weeks. I really wanted (as well as Big Guy) Mark Anderson in the 4th, but I am glad we got Dumervil too, now. I'm glad I was wrong on the kid. I believe Slap in the chatroom during the draft was very happy with the pick and Requiem as well. I know DB liked him alot last year too.


And this is why I respect you, SoCal. You are a stand up guy. Anyone (including so called experts) hit some and miss some.

dbfan21
10-23-2006, 10:39 AM
He was the guy who Little Mexico stomped on and he was a starter for Louisville.

LOL...very funny with the Little Mexico comment!

LOL

Elvis is a force to be reckoned with! Great draft pick, Shanahan!

bloodsunday
10-23-2006, 11:03 AM
need to see more

epicSocialism4tw
10-23-2006, 01:49 PM
need to see more

He's already proven that he was worth a late 4th round pick. Now we need to see whether or not he can be consistent, and what kind of production we can expect from him.

Florida_Bronco
10-23-2006, 05:41 PM
Now I'd just like to see us draft Adam Carriker to add some serious talent to this D-line.

Garcia Bronco
10-23-2006, 05:46 PM
I really didn't think he would be what he already is....I hope when the offenses adjust for him...someone else can take advantage. Props

Florida_Bronco
10-23-2006, 06:08 PM
Interesting...in 2 games, Dumervil has 1 more sack than the team leader all of last year.

MowrMowr
10-23-2006, 06:09 PM
He absolutely FLIES around the corner for a DE...there aren't too many OT's that will be able to block him effectively. There was one play in the Ravens game where he is moving up field, realizes it's a running play, turns around and catches the RB from behind after a ~5 yard gain. I look forward to watching him on the pass rush for a long time to come.

bloodsunday
10-23-2006, 06:31 PM
He's already proven that he was worth a late 4th round pick. Now we need to see whether or not he can be consistent, and what kind of production we can expect from him.

I guess you are right since he made the team and the vast majority of our mid/late round DL draft picks of late seem not to. I still shudder at the '03 draft with all Eason and Gang....

Anyway, he looks like a good "project" type player. He has great potential as a pass rusher, but I am not convinced that he can be an everydown player because of his size. Hopefully he doesn't go the route of Berry or Hayward and think he deserves $25M as a one-trick-pony.

Garcia Bronco
10-23-2006, 06:35 PM
I guess you are right since he made the team and the vast majority of our mid/late round DL draft picks of late seem not to. I still shudder at the '03 draft with all Eason and Gang....

Anyway, he looks like a good "project" type player. He has great potential as a pass rusher, but I am not convinced that he can be an everydown player because of his size. Hopefully he doesn't go the route of Berry or Hayward and think he deserves $25M as a one-trick-pony.

I think the reasons he's been inactive in part is because it's a long season and rookies...all rookies wear down quickly

-Slap-
10-23-2006, 07:28 PM
Let's draft Quentin Groves and put him on the other side. The quarterback won't know whether to **** or wind his wristwatch.

Atwater His Ass
10-23-2006, 08:03 PM
I guess you are right since he made the team and the vast majority of our mid/late round DL draft picks of late seem not to. I still shudder at the '03 draft with all Eason and Gang....

Anyway, he looks like a good "project" type player. He has great potential as a pass rusher, but I am not convinced that he can be an everydown player because of his size. Hopefully he doesn't go the route of Berry or Hayward and think he deserves $25M as a one-trick-pony.

It would be great if he could develop into an every down player, but the way our DL works, we don't really need him too.

We proven for a few years we can stop the run. What we need is pass rush in passing situations, and he is bringing that for us.

DBroncos4life
10-24-2006, 12:17 AM
Now I'd just like to see us draft Adam Carriker to add some serious talent to this D-line.

I agree. This is a off year for him. I think adding the weight that he did worked against him.

Hotwheelz
10-24-2006, 12:46 AM
Water - Is wet?

Florida_Bronco
10-24-2006, 06:16 AM
I agree. This is a off year for him. I think adding the weight that he did worked against him.

That, and the fact he's been double and even triple teamed all year certainly hasn't helped.

jtomm
10-24-2006, 08:28 AM
Elvis didn't wear down last year at UL. He was consistently being double and triple teamed. Due to the increase in talent at every position, this shouldn't happen at the professional level.

fontaine
10-27-2006, 09:31 AM
Dooooomervil!!!!

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_4557523

Kevin Wolthausen figured an NFL team with an open mind would win.

"Good for the Denver Broncos," said Wolthausen, the defensive line and co-defensive coordinator at Louisville.

Wolthausen long ago realized what the Broncos - and the rest of the NFL - are learning. Elvis Dumervil, all 5-feet-11 of him, can get to the quarterback. The only measurables with Dumervil that count are his turnstile-pace sack numbers.

The Broncos' are proud to introduce their newest threat to Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts' offense Sunday at Invesco Field at Mile High.

Dumervil is the hottest defensive player in the NFL, compiling five sacks in the past two games. The NCAA sack leader in 2005 with 20, Dumervil was inactive for Denver's first three games as he readied himself for the pro game. Dumervil is ready.

Even though he usually comes in only on third down, Dumervil dominated in the Broncos' 17-7 victory at Cleveland on Sunday as he recorded three sacks and recovered a fumble. Having played defensive tackle and defensive end in the preseason, he has been flourishing at end during the regular season.

"This is what I did at college," said Dumervil, who won the Bronko Nagurski Award, given to the nation's outstanding college defensive player, last season. "This feels natural."

Dumervil has thrust himself into defensive rookie of the year consideration. His sack total of five is more than any Denver player had all last season. His three sacks against the Browns equaled a Denver rookie best set by Rulon Jones in 1980. Dumervil's five sacks is the best two-game mark by a rookie in the NFL since Justin Smith did it for Cincinnati in 2001.

His ability to sack quarterbacks was exactly what Denver was desperately seeking when Dumervil was taken in the fourth round. While the Broncos spent the offseason re-signing their own free agents and trading for receiver Javon Walker, many thought a pass-rushing defensive end was the team's biggest need.

Conjecture had it that Denver, which considered high-dollar free agent Andre Carter, would take a rush end in the first round. However, before deciding to trade up for quarterback Jay Cutler at No. 11, Denver deemed none of the available pass rushers to be worth the No. 15 pick. But they still had their eyes on Dumervil.

Unlike most teams, the Broncos weren't turned off by Dumervil's height. He's short and stout at 250 pounds. Diminutive cornerback Darrent Williams, the shortest player on the team at 5-8, can almost see eye-to-eye with Dumervil.

"You got to give Denver credit for not being concerned about Elvis' height," Wolthausen said. "We knew it wasn't a big deal because of everything Elvis has. The guy has tremendous burst. Sometimes he gets to the quarterback so quickly, it looks like he's offsides."

Dumervil has great quickness, is strong and has long arms. Denver coach Mike Shanahan said Dumervil has the reach of a 6-7 player. With long meat hooks, the closing time of a 747 and pure pass-rush know-how, the lack of height has been no biggie.

"Elvis has proven you can get to the quarterback without being tall," defensive line/tackles coach Andre Patterson said. "The kid just knows how to find the quarterback."

It's all about effort for Dumervil.

"I've been short all my life," Dumervil said. "I'm not getting any taller. My game is all about desire."

The Broncos staff's eyes were opened to the prospects of a shorter pass rusher when they witnessed several while coaching at the Pro Bowl in February. Among the players there was Colts sack star Dwight Freeney, listed at 6-1, but who appears shorter.

"It was a revelation," Denver defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said. "It showed us you don't have to be tall to get to the quarterback. We learned that."

Wolthausen could have told them that.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2006/1026/20061026_114038_sp27elvis.jpg

westcliffe
10-27-2006, 09:43 AM
[QUOTE=Garcia Bronco;1325253]I really didn't think he would be what he already is...



He is who we thought he was. He is who we thought he was. And 31 other teams gave him away.Hilarious!


Sorry, couldn't resist throwing in a little Denny Green to your quote.

baja
10-27-2006, 10:37 AM
Yes, that is correct. I was down on Dumervil after his poor performances at the Senior Bowl practices. There were also a few games last season when I watched him that I wasn't too impressed, but he has really come on...and he looked pretty good in camp agains the backup OTs and had some decent plays against the first string line. He is doing a fine job right now, he's really been racking up the sacks the last few weeks. I really wanted (as well as Big Guy) Mark Anderson in the 4th, but I am glad we got Dumervil too, now. I'm glad I was wrong on the kid. I believe Slap in the chatroom during the draft was very happy with the pick and Requiem as well. I know DB liked him alot last year too.

If you are a player that wants to play in the probowl that you hope So Cal is down on ya. ;D

baja
10-27-2006, 10:42 AM
Let's draft Quentin Groves and put him on the other side. The quarterback won't know whether to **** or wind his <b>wristwatch.,/b>

Is that as versus an ankle watch? ;D

baja
10-27-2006, 10:45 AM
Water - Is wet?

unless it's temperature is below 32 degrees.

Why is there not a degrees key on the keyboard?

Rohirrim
10-27-2006, 10:48 AM
What's so short about 5'11"? :cuss:

GO ELVIS! :~ohyah!:

-Slap-
10-27-2006, 10:49 AM
If you are a player that wants to play in the probowl that you hope So Cal is down on ya. ;D

I know you're just ribbing him, but that is so untrue.

The reason it sometimes seems like SoCal misses on more players than some people is because he offers opinions on more players than most people. I'm grateful for his input because his overall percentage of hits to misses is very high. Also, his scouting reports tend to be less hype driven than most. He tends to be a tougher grader than most people and that's a more realistic way of looking at things anyway. How many draft picks make it every year and how many fail?

Its like gambling. A lot of guys never talk about the bets they lose, only the ones they win. People might get the impression they're losing a lot, but they're just being honest.

Taco John
10-27-2006, 10:53 AM
I know you're just ribbing him, but that is so untrue.

The reason it sometimes seems like SoCal misses on more players than some people is because he offers opinions on more players than most people. I'm grateful for his input because his overall percentage of hits to misses is very high. Also, his scouting reports tend to be less hype driven than most. He tends to be a tougher grader than most people and that's a more realistic way of looking at things anyway. How many draft picks make it every year and how many fail?

Its like gambling. A lot of guys never talk about the bets they lose, only the ones they win. People might get the impression they're losing a lot, but they're just being honest.




Quoted for truth. SoCal rules! :)


(you horribly missed on Leinart SoCal! ;) )

baja
10-27-2006, 10:55 AM
I know you're just ribbing him, but that is so untrue.

The reason it sometimes seems like SoCal misses on more players than some people is because he offers opinions on more players than most people. I'm grateful for his input because is overall percentage of hits to misses is very high. Also, his scouting reports tend to be less hype driven than most. He tends to be a tougher grader than most people and that's a more realistic way of looking at things anyway. How many draft picks make it every year and how many fail?

Its like gambling. A lot of guys never talk about the bets they lose, only the ones they win. People might get the impression they're losing a lot, but they're just being honest.

So Cal's article on the Mane Home page was nothing short of awsome.He has forgotten more about football than I will ever know but I love riding him (and you) about Ian Gold whom I believe wiil be in the probowl this season. ;D

PLOWHORSE
10-27-2006, 11:07 AM
Dooooomervil!!!!

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_4557523

Kevin Wolthausen figured an NFL team with an open mind would win.

"Good for the Denver Broncos," said Wolthausen, the defensive line and co-defensive coordinator at Louisville.

Wolthausen long ago realized what the Broncos - and the rest of the NFL - are learning. Elvis Dumervil, all 5-feet-11 of him, can get to the quarterback. The only measurables with Dumervil that count are his turnstile-pace sack numbers.

The Broncos' are proud to introduce their newest threat to Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts' offense Sunday at Invesco Field at Mile High.

Dumervil is the hottest defensive player in the NFL, compiling five sacks in the past two games. The NCAA sack leader in 2005 with 20, Dumervil was inactive for Denver's first three games as he readied himself for the pro game. Dumervil is ready.

Even though he usually comes in only on third down, Dumervil dominated in the Broncos' 17-7 victory at Cleveland on Sunday as he recorded three sacks and recovered a fumble. Having played defensive tackle and defensive end in the preseason, he has been flourishing at end during the regular season.

"This is what I did at college," said Dumervil, who won the Bronko Nagurski Award, given to the nation's outstanding college defensive player, last season. "This feels natural."

Dumervil has thrust himself into defensive rookie of the year consideration. His sack total of five is more than any Denver player had all last season. His three sacks against the Browns equaled a Denver rookie best set by Rulon Jones in 1980. Dumervil's five sacks is the best two-game mark by a rookie in the NFL since Justin Smith did it for Cincinnati in 2001.

His ability to sack quarterbacks was exactly what Denver was desperately seeking when Dumervil was taken in the fourth round. While the Broncos spent the offseason re-signing their own free agents and trading for receiver Javon Walker, many thought a pass-rushing defensive end was the team's biggest need.

Conjecture had it that Denver, which considered high-dollar free agent Andre Carter, would take a rush end in the first round. However, before deciding to trade up for quarterback Jay Cutler at No. 11, Denver deemed none of the available pass rushers to be worth the No. 15 pick. But they still had their eyes on Dumervil.

Unlike most teams, the Broncos weren't turned off by Dumervil's height. He's short and stout at 250 pounds. Diminutive cornerback Darrent Williams, the shortest player on the team at 5-8, can almost see eye-to-eye with Dumervil.

"You got to give Denver credit for not being concerned about Elvis' height," Wolthausen said. "We knew it wasn't a big deal because of everything Elvis has. The guy has tremendous burst. Sometimes he gets to the quarterback so quickly, it looks like he's offsides."

Dumervil has great quickness, is strong and has long arms. Denver coach Mike Shanahan said Dumervil has the reach of a 6-7 player. With long meat hooks, the closing time of a 747 and pure pass-rush know-how, the lack of height has been no biggie.

"Elvis has proven you can get to the quarterback without being tall," defensive line/tackles coach Andre Patterson said. "The kid just knows how to find the quarterback."

It's all about effort for Dumervil.

"I've been short all my life," Dumervil said. "I'm not getting any taller. My game is all about desire."

The Broncos staff's eyes were opened to the prospects of a shorter pass rusher when they witnessed several while coaching at the Pro Bowl in February. Among the players there was Colts sack star Dwight Freeney, listed at 6-1, but who appears shorter.

"It was a revelation," Denver defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said. "It showed us you don't have to be tall to get to the quarterback. We learned that."

Wolthausen could have told them that.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2006/1026/20061026_114038_sp27elvis.jpg

Do tha Elvis DANCE!!!!!

SteveTensi13
10-27-2006, 02:09 PM
What's so short about 5'11"? :cuss:

GO ELVIS! :~ohyah!:

I could only dream about being 5'11", as it is, Hispanics tend to be on the short side with the exception of a couple of freakazoids thrown in.

footstepsfrom#27
10-27-2006, 10:07 PM
Hopefully he doesn't go the route of Berry or Hayward and think he deserves $25M as a one-trick-pony.
How many tricks does he need? I hear he's a one dimensional player. How many dimensions does a DE need? He needs to be able to rush the passer and play the run. Obviously he's not a wide body run stuffer who clogs things up but most DE's aren't. I think when he starts getting more experience we'll see him more on 1st and 2nd down. In the midst of this pub about sacks, don't forget the dude forced 11 fumbles last year at Louisville.

That's at least two tricks he's got.

-Slap-
10-27-2006, 10:30 PM
So Cal's article on the Mane Home page was nothing short of awsome.He has forgotten more about football than I will ever know but I love riding him (and you) about Ian Gold whom I believe wiil be in the probowl this season. ;D

I'll be pissed if Ian doesn't make the Pro Bowl this year.

Popps
10-27-2006, 10:49 PM
I told you guys Dumervil was going to be the solution for this defense. :)

Seriously, who would have thunk it. No one on this board that I've read. Even the best draftnicks around here (SoCal) missed this one. This looked like one of our normal poo-poo, mid-round pot shots... especially when you factored in the guys measureables. (Is that even a real word?)

But, here he is... potentially the pass rush specialist this team has so badly needed.

Well, I may have bagged on the pick, but I'll guarantee you no one is a bigger fan of this kid than me, now. He's doing what I've been calling for for a freaking decade.

He's kicking QBs asses every weekend.

I hope the little ####er racks up 20 sacks!

watermock
10-27-2006, 11:07 PM
Isn't it time for the obligatory Fargas sucks comment Slappy?

He's averaging 5.3 yards per carry with zero starts on a team that completely sucks. 230 yards.

watermock
10-27-2006, 11:08 PM
I'll be pissed if Ian doesn't make the Pro Bowl this year.

SoCal will be more pissed when he does.

-Slap-
10-27-2006, 11:16 PM
Isn't it time for the obligatory Fargas sucks comment Slappy?

He's averaging 5.3 yards per carry with zero starts on a team that completely sucks. 230 yards.

Mock, the last time you got chesty about one of those frail prospects you favor, Stallworth popped another quad muscle and missed six weeks!

:thumbsup:

Do Huggy Jr a favor: hold your water and keep the Bad Luck Gods off his candy ass.

Don't hate me because I was right about Elvis. The guy has been a sack machine since he strapped on pads. Why some people wanted to write him off without even seeing him play is anyone's guess. Some people just like to cry about everything, though.

Clockwork Orange
10-27-2006, 11:18 PM
Dave Ragone bagged my groceries last week. I told him you said hi, mock. :thumbs:

Doggcow
11-03-2009, 01:43 PM
Yes. Good pick.

BroncoMan4ever
11-03-2009, 01:58 PM
I could only dream about being 5'11", as it is, Hispanics tend to be on the short side with the exception of a couple of freakazoids thrown in.

i am not a freakazoid hispanic for being 6ft. did you ever think you short hispanics are the freaks? lol