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SoCalBronco
04-19-2007, 08:44 PM
20 minutes left in our season. :(

alkemical
04-19-2007, 11:16 PM
blah

Mtbrncofn
04-20-2007, 12:15 AM
Geez, I think I jinxed the Pens. Sorry SoCal and Josh. :( I was rooting for them!

Mtbrncofn
04-20-2007, 12:16 AM
Brad May once again proves what a dirtbag he his. I was sooo happy when the Avs dumped his pathetic ass. Hopefully he isn't suspended, and Boogaard can throw him the beating he deserves...if of course May is game when the guy doesn't have his back turned.

What'd I miss? What did the turd do?

Go Ducks. Beat the Mild.

SoCalBronco
04-20-2007, 01:29 AM
Geez, I think I jinxed the Pens. Sorry SoCal and Josh. :( I was rooting for them!

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6558/fulljgetty73910016pm019xv5.jpg

:( It's ok. We needed to take our lumps first I suppose. We'll be back. Our time is coming...very soon, just not quite yet.

Thanks for rooting for us. :)

Pendejo
04-20-2007, 03:05 AM
What'd I miss? What did the turd do?

Go Ducks. Beat the Mild.

He sucker punched a non-fighter from behind during a dust up the other night. He was immediately sent packing. The North Stars crowd began chanting for Boogaard in unison. This all happened in the final minute and a half of the game.

Check hockeyfights.com.

Also if I ever get another dog...it will be a Rotty, and his name will be Boogaard...because that's probably the sweetest name ever for a dog.

Pendejo
04-20-2007, 03:08 AM
:( It's ok. We needed to take our lumps first I suppose. We'll be back. Our time is coming...very soon, just not quite yet.

Thanks for rooting for us. :)

The Pens have a ton of upside. They'll learn the difference between the regular season, and the playoffs very soon.

The future is bright for Pittsburgh's hockey team.

Bronx33
04-20-2007, 07:26 PM
Great games thus far IMO iam really watchin the sabers closely they are going to be tough to beat they just seem to have great play on both ends of the ice.

Bronx33
04-20-2007, 07:30 PM
From NHL Press Release,

NEW YORK/TORONTO (April 20, 2007)—New York Islanders defenseman Sean Hill has been suspended 20 games for violating the terms of the NHL/NHLPA Performance Enhancing Substances Program. The suspension begins with tonight’s Stanley Cup Eastern Conference Quarterfinal game against the Buffalo Sabres.
Under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the suspension is accompanied by mandatory referral to the NHL/NHLPA Program for Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health for evaluation and possible treatment.
The player’s contract expires with the conclusion of the 2006-07 season. Any portion of the suspension that remains following the Islanders’ participation in the 2007 Stanley Cup Playoffs would resume, without pay, at the beginning of any successor contract.

Bronx33
04-20-2007, 08:06 PM
The sabers on top 2-0 in the second..

Mtbrncofn
04-20-2007, 11:31 PM
Jori should be happy to see the Sabres move on. I am too because every other team I picked in the first round is gone already.

Jori
04-21-2007, 02:09 AM
Jori should be happy to see the Sabres move on. I am too because every other team I picked in the first round is gone already.

Yup !Booya!

I give the Islanders credit, they played Buffalo tough.

SoCalBronco
04-21-2007, 02:02 PM
Penguins' Crosby had broken foot last month


By Karen Price
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Saturday, April 21, 2007


Penguins center Sidney Crosby played the last month of the regular season and the playoffs with a broken bone in his left foot.
Crosby, 19, said on Saturday that he won't need surgery, but he will have to skip representing Canada in the upcoming World Championship tournament in Moscow because of the injury.

"To play for Team Canada, especially with him part of it, in Moscow, a place I've always wanted to play, is tough," Crosby said of having to miss the tournament.

Teammates Jordan Staal (Canada), Evgeni Malkin (Russia), Sergei Gonchar (Russia), Ronald Petrovicky (Slovakia) and Jarkko Ruutu (Finland) will be taking part in the tournament. Goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury said he might play for Canada, but as of today wasn't positive.





Today was locker clean-out and exit interview day for the Penguins players, who were knocked out of the playoffs in the first round by the Ottawa Senators on Thursday.

Crosby suffered the injury while blocking a shot.

He said the pain in his foot wasn't too bad beyond the first two weeks.

"It got a little bit better after that," he said. "By the playoffs it was sore, but it wasn't grueling or anything like that."

Crosby said the injury did not affect his performance.


Karen Price can be reached at kprice@tribweb.com or 412-320-7980.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_503934.html

Clockwork Orange
04-21-2007, 10:35 PM
Credit to Marty Turco, for the first time in his career he's really stepped up his game in the playoffs. Stars force a game 7 on Turco's second consecutive shutout.

Now let's see how he handles a game 7.

Jori
04-23-2007, 12:54 AM
Eastern Conference Semifinals are set:

(1) Buffalo Sabres versus (6) New York Rangers
(2) New Jersey Devils versus (4) Ottawa Senators

Detroit eliminates Calgary with a win in double OT.

One game left to finish out the first round....Game 7 Stars/Canucks

Clockwork Orange
04-23-2007, 01:46 AM
I can't root for Detroit because I just can't, but I'm not sorry to see them knock off Calgary. The Flames behavior at times in this series was disgraceful.

broncocalijohn
04-23-2007, 04:05 AM
if stars win, then that is three from the Pacific Division. Those could be tough series for ducks. Time off doesnt hurt. Two goalies playing lights out helps these playoff games. Big time thrilled no more shootouts.

Jori
04-23-2007, 12:28 PM
Credit to Marty Turco, for the first time in his career he's really stepped up his game in the playoffs. Stars force a game 7 on Turco's second consecutive shutout.

Now let's see how he handles a game 7.

I'm just happy not to have to hear any more of Tanguay's whining :giggle:

If Dallas wins tonight, I don't see them beating Detroit. If I'm the Wings, I want nothing of San Jose.

Mtbrncofn
04-23-2007, 06:56 PM
I can't root for Detroit because I just can't, but I'm not sorry to see them knock off Calgary. The Flames behavior at times in this series was disgraceful.

I did. First time ever, but I was so pissed at the Lamers for backing in, I couldn't wait for them to be gone. HA is all I can say.

I'd rather see the Stars win tonight, but either way it should be a great game.

Mtbrncofn
04-23-2007, 06:58 PM
I'm just happy not to have to hear any more of Tanguay's whining :giggle:

If Dallas wins tonight, I don't see them beating Detroit. If I'm the Wings, I want nothing of San Jose.

Tang was whining? Like publicly? Gosh, I seem to be missing all the good stuff these days. I did catch the baseball swing McLennan delivered. I think he picked the wrong sport. What the hell was he thinking?!

Mtbrncofn
04-23-2007, 07:00 PM
Oooo, the Pens sign a Boogard. Sheesh, they grow some big boys in that family! Hey, how many goons do you guys need over there, SoCal? ;)

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=205275&hubname=nhl

Mtbrncofn
04-24-2007, 02:15 AM
Marty Turco has to be one of the biggest playoff losing goalies out there. I'd rather have seen the Stars win.

Smiling Assassin27
04-24-2007, 05:47 PM
I did. First time ever, but I was so pissed at the Lamers for backing in, I couldn't wait for them to be gone. HA is all I can say.

I'd rather see the Stars win tonight, but either way it should be a great game.

mt? pulling for the winged wheel? uh, smelling salts to table 3, please...

i was hoping to get the stars this round as well but now, all i can hope is that the nucks beat on the ducks for 7 games, though i don't care who wins that series.

as for wings-sharks, it'll be an uphill battle from the opening puck drop for the wings but this team can push back, unlike all the other soft and 'blades of glory'-type teams we ran out there before. if watuzzi and that 4th line can carry the physical play, then it becomes thornton v lidstrom/chelios and nabokov vs hasek. i don't expect a wings series win but won't be surprised by it, either.

mt, you staying on the wagon? :~ohyah!:

Mtbrncofn
04-26-2007, 01:35 PM
Nope, I'm off the wagon now. :D I just wanted the Lames disposed of. Should be a great series to watch though.

The Ducks just took the Nucks to the woodshed last night.

Killericon
04-26-2007, 05:32 PM
I've been away from the thread for a while, and I've come back to say this:

**** Jim Playfair.

That's all.

SJ Bronco
04-26-2007, 06:30 PM
I read that detroit still has tickets available for the game tonight? Is that true, and if it is, are they still the so called greatest fans in hockey?

Sharks playoff tickets sell out every year in about an hour. fyi

SJ Bronco
04-26-2007, 06:34 PM
I wonder if I can find a shark to throw on the ice monday....

At least I'll give detroit this, thier media knows they are playing tonight, all they talk about here is the warriors/dallas game tommorrow. We have GREAT very hockey savy fans in San jose, but the media here blows. Mostly on the Niners and giants members, but these days, on the warriors.

bronco militia
04-27-2007, 12:08 PM
Sj!!!

go sharks

nice to see the Wings get kicked in the nuts last night...

SJ Bronco
04-27-2007, 01:28 PM
I think wings fans thought this would be a walk. I was reading a couple of the detroit News sites, and they all thought this would be an easy series. The national press hasn't watched a sharks game all year from what I can tell. I think the wings will be shocked to find they are gonna have to play their best if they want to beat the sharks. Also, im tired of hearing how much better hasek is than nabby. I get it, hasek is a great goalie, but guess what, nabby ain't bad, and he also doesn't have the luxury of having a hall of fame defense pair in front of him. So, GAME ON! i hope the wings (for their sake) and their fans starting taking this seriously now.

Mtbrncofn
04-28-2007, 12:54 AM
I've heard/read the opposite. I don't think the Wings wanted the Sharks. Obviously with their past record against Dallas, I think that's who they were hoping to get.

I don't care for either team, but I'd go for the Sharks over the Wings since someone HAS to win. :)

Mtbrncofn
04-28-2007, 12:55 AM
I've been away from the thread for a while, and I've come back to say this:

**** Jim Playfair.

That's all.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

SoCalBronco
04-28-2007, 02:00 AM
Canucks prevail in 2 OTs!

Mtbrncofn
04-28-2007, 11:59 AM
The Ducks sure were roughing up Luongo last night.

bronco militia
04-30-2007, 12:15 PM
a little late, but priceless

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/346/jerseyskn7.jpg

Mtbrncofn
05-01-2007, 02:23 AM
Bwahahahahaahahaha! Oh man, that's great!

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2007, 02:17 PM
NHL Award finalists have been announced.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=301911

CALDER MEMORIAL TROPHY (outstanding rookie): Evgeni Malkin, Penguins; Jordan Staal, Penguins; Paul Stastny, Avalanche.

FRANK J. SELKE TROPHY (outstanding defensive forward): Rod Brind'Amour, Hurricanes; Samuel Pahlsson, Ducks; Jay Pandolfo, Devils.

HART MEMORIAL TROPHY (most valuable player to his team): Martin Brodeur, Devils; Sidney Crosby, Penguins; Roberto Luongo, Canucks.

JACK ADAMS AWARD (outstanding coach): Lindy Ruff, Sabres; Michel Therrien, Penguins; Alain Vigneault, Canucks.

JAMES NORRIS MEMORIAL TROPHY (outstanding defenseman): Nicklas Lidstrom, Red Wings; Scott Niedermayer, Ducks; Chris Pronger, Ducks.

LADY BYNG MEMORIAL TROPHY (sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct): Pavel Datsyuk, Red Wings; Joe Sakic, Avalanche; Martin St. Louis, Lightning.

LESTER B. PEARSON AWARD (most outstanding player as voted by fellow members of the NHLPA): Sidney Crosby, Penguins; Vincent Lecavalier, Lightning; Roberto Luongo, Canucks.

VEZINA TROPHY *** (outstanding goaltender): Martin Brodeur, Devils; Miikka Kiprusoff, Flames; Henrik Lundqvist, Rangers; Roberto Luongo, Canucks.

Jori
05-01-2007, 05:58 PM
Picks surely to go wrong....

Calder: Malkin
Selke: Pahlsson
Hart: Crosby
Adams: Vigneault
Norris: Lidstrom
Byng: Sakic
Pearson: Crosby
Vezina: Luongo

Jori
05-01-2007, 05:59 PM
a little late, but priceless

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/346/jerseyskn7.jpg

I'll pay money if somebody photoshops Tanguay in that "away" jersey :giggle:

Clockwork Orange
05-01-2007, 06:00 PM
I'll throw my predictions to the wind.

Calder: Malkin
Selke: Brind'Amour
Hart: Crosby
Adams: Ruff
Norris: Lidstrom
Byng: Sakic
Pearson: Crosby
Vezina: Brodeur

Mtbrncofn
05-01-2007, 07:39 PM
Go Joe!

Mtbrncofn
05-02-2007, 12:29 AM
The Sabres got bent over and raped with a chimney brush on that no goal call. Horrible call!

Killericon
05-02-2007, 02:12 AM
A writer for the Calgary Herald was talking about what we should do in FA, and then he went on about how it won't work anyways.

"After the '04 cup loss, it was obvious we needed to get younger. We signed Tony Amonte, Roman Hamrlik and Darren McCarty. After we bowed out to the Ducks in '05, it was clear that we needed to become more physical. We got Jeff Freisen and Alex Tanguay."

I laughed.

Clockwork Orange
05-02-2007, 02:54 AM
The Sabres got bent over and raped with a chimney brush on that no goal call. Horrible call!

The problem was that you couldn't actually see the puck across the goal line. Even if they believe that it was, they have to see it to rule it a goal.

It's like the legal system, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

Congrats to the Canchokes for living down to expectations and blowing a 2-0 3rd period lead and any chance of winning the series tonight. :thumbs:

Smiling Assassin27
05-02-2007, 01:09 PM
I think wings fans thought this would be a walk. I was reading a couple of the detroit News sites, and they all thought this would be an easy series. The national press hasn't watched a sharks game all year from what I can tell. I think the wings will be shocked to find they are gonna have to play their best if they want to beat the sharks. Also, im tired of hearing how much better hasek is than nabby. I get it, hasek is a great goalie, but guess what, nabby ain't bad, and he also doesn't have the luxury of having a hall of fame defense pair in front of him. So, GAME ON! i hope the wings (for their sake) and their fans starting taking this seriously now.


i don't know what you were reading but the freep and detroit news online both said the sharks were bigger, faster, and would most likely beat the wings in this series. every 'expert' from billy ray candyarse to bucci pick the sharks. we get the luxury of playing in a joke of a division so we reap the benefits when seeding time comes, but we all know the sharks can and should win this series.

SJ Bronco
05-02-2007, 05:05 PM
The division may be a joke, but the wings defense isn't. Despite the 8 goal raid we had on hasek earlier this year, I think we have the most trouble with this attacking style. The preds did it too, but they were so damn fast it made us play sloppy. The wings have a whole new approach, its just plain body on body and its driving our defenseman crazy. Not many teams take playoff games in our building, but I think the wings have a shot at one. If they can do that, we may be in BIG trouble. Game three was more formulaic for us though. We came out putting puck on net and holding the zone. Passing was better, and most importantly, we played the second period wich is our best period. Without Bell and Marleau playing the wing, we always play better though.

SoCalBronco
05-02-2007, 11:22 PM
SJ has DET on the ropes in Game 4.

2-0 midway through the 2nd period.

broncocalijohn
05-03-2007, 05:50 AM
SJ has DET on the ropes in Game 4.

2-0 midway through the 2nd period.


Just like The Ducks on the Canucks, if you cant adapt to the other teams change, no lead is safe. That was a sweet game and would love to see my Ducks play Detroit with the same results as last year (and 2003). Playing SJ all season long might be tough. Great series.

alkemical
05-03-2007, 08:59 AM
detroit won it

Smiling Assassin27
05-03-2007, 04:34 PM
The division may be a joke, but the wings defense isn't. Despite the 8 goal raid we had on hasek earlier this year, I think we have the most trouble with this attacking style. The preds did it too, but they were so damn fast it made us play sloppy. The wings have a whole new approach, its just plain body on body and its driving our defenseman crazy. Not many teams take playoff games in our building, but I think the wings have a shot at one. If they can do that, we may be in BIG trouble. Game three was more formulaic for us though. We came out putting puck on net and holding the zone. Passing was better, and most importantly, we played the second period wich is our best period. Without Bell and Marleau playing the wing, we always play better though.

the longer the series goes, the more bleak it is for detroit. the big bodies of the sharks pounding and cycling will force the wings defense into more mistakes. luckily, hasek is a guy who can still take the heat. homer made a huge difference last night and he could spell trouble for the sharks in front. lidstrom's usually a rock but the play of guys like lilja and chelios (is he drawing Social Security yet?) and quincey are a total shock. seems like the sharks are slowed down when teams cover their wings and make their d-men bring the puck up. after game 1, i was worried this series wouldn't have much life but 2-2 going back to detroit gives it the makings of a classic series.

Jori
05-03-2007, 06:54 PM
On the flip side, what bodes well for Detroit is San Jose's lack of killer instinct. Detroit is too savvy of a team to let hang around.

Mtbrncofn
05-04-2007, 12:18 AM
The problem was that you couldn't actually see the puck across the goal line. Even if they believe that it was, they have to see it to rule it a goal.

It's like the legal system, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

Congrats to the Canchokes for living down to expectations and blowing a 2-0 3rd period lead and any chance of winning the series tonight. :thumbs:

How the hell could they not see that? They need to get rid of the rabbit ears in Toronto and get HD or something. I don't even have HD and I could see it on the replay!

Mtbrncofn
05-04-2007, 12:42 AM
Bye bye Cansucks! Couldn't even do much with Luongo. Ha!

Clockwork Orange
05-04-2007, 06:24 PM
How appropriate that Vancouver's season ends because Luongo took his eye off the puck to complain to the referee.

Kid A
05-04-2007, 09:42 PM
wow. drury doing his thing with 7 seconds left. crazy.

Jori
05-05-2007, 06:29 PM
Well, I underestimated Detroit and overestimated San Jose. Who knew the Sharks PP would go into such a funk in the playoffs and after what happened to them against Edmonton last year, you would think a killer instinct would sink in. The Sharks are done imo. I can see them forcing a game 7, but San Jose blew their chance in game 4.

SoCalBronco
05-05-2007, 09:40 PM
Damn...Ottawa is really on a mission this year. They have lit Marty up this period, now up 3-1 in Game 5...looks like they will probably close it out tonight in NJ.

Makes me feel a little better about losing to them in 5 if they can do that to the Devils too.

Mtbrncofn
05-06-2007, 12:12 AM
I don't care for the Sens, but I have been rooting for them in hopes of seeing a Sens-Sabres ECF. That is gonna be awesome, providing the Sabres get it done.

Boy, Marty kinda stunk it up this postseason.

SoCalBronco
05-06-2007, 04:58 PM
Rags played at a really intense level in the last 10 mins, but came up just a bit short. That was pretty exciting to watch though in that third period.

Jori
05-06-2007, 05:09 PM
That was a great series. Rangers fans have nothing to be ashamed of. Boy Ottawa/Buffalo is going to be fantastic. I'd be shocked if that series is less then seven games.

Smiling Assassin27
05-07-2007, 11:57 AM
Well, I underestimated Detroit and overestimated San Jose. Who knew the Sharks PP would go into such a funk in the playoffs and after what happened to them against Edmonton last year, you would think a killer instinct would sink in. The Sharks are done imo. I can see them forcing a game 7, but San Jose blew their chance in game 4.

without schneider, detroit's in trouble, imo. we've already got quincey, a rook, back there and it's gonna mean more ice time for chelios, lidstrom, et al. i don't think the sharks are done at all. this group of wings have too many guys like franzen, samuelsson, flippula who have never won a playoff series before. if i'm babcork, i sit calder and go with 7 defensemen tonight since lebda prolly isn't 100%. try to win a 1-0 game by throwing traps, double teams, etc at them all game long and let guys like draper, cleary, zetterberg catch the sharks napping. hasek's gotta be a wall.

Al Wilson
05-07-2007, 01:07 PM
without schneider, detroit's in trouble, imo.
One the most underrated defenseman in the NHL. All the attention goes to Lidstrom, but Schneider is also a great player.

Mtbrncofn
05-07-2007, 05:35 PM
That was a great series. Rangers fans have nothing to be ashamed of. Boy Ottawa/Buffalo is going to be fantastic. I'd be shocked if that series is less then seven games.

My thoughts exactly. I can't wait for this series to start.

Jori
05-07-2007, 09:50 PM
Detroit's up 2-0, looks like Ducks/Wings in the Western Conference Finals.

Jori
05-07-2007, 09:51 PM
without schneider, detroit's in trouble, imo. we've already got quincey, a rook, back there and it's gonna mean more ice time for chelios, lidstrom, et al. i don't think the sharks are done at all. this group of wings have too many guys like franzen, samuelsson, flippula who have never won a playoff series before. if i'm babcork, i sit calder and go with 7 defensemen tonight since lebda prolly isn't 100%. try to win a 1-0 game by throwing traps, double teams, etc at them all game long and let guys like draper, cleary, zetterberg catch the sharks napping. hasek's gotta be a wall.

Their depth issues on D may hurt them against the Ducks, but it hasn't hurt them tonight. Yet, if the Ducks are watching, they'll want Hasek to handle the puck. Lidstrom saved his bacon.

Mtbrncofn
05-07-2007, 11:43 PM
The Sharks have too many big names to keep choking this much.

I guess I'll have to root for the Ducks now. Ick. Brad May possibly winning a Stanley Cup....that just puts a bad taste in your mouth.

Still pulling for the Sabres to win the whole thing though.

Jori
05-08-2007, 12:11 AM
Conference Finals schedule:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=304243&page=NewsPage&service=page

Sharks were the youngest team in the NHL. Despite Detroit's lack of blueline depth, the Sharks lack of killer instinct clearly showed. What surprised me was Marleau's disappearing act. This is the captain and he was a total no show in these playoffs. San Jose has some interesting decisions to make. Hannan is a UFA and will be highly sought after, but both Marleau and Thornton are UFAs after 07-08. Wouldn't shock me to see San Jose keep Hannan and try to move Marleau in the offseason.

I think a team like the Ducks is better equipped to expose Detroit's blueline, but you have to give Lidstrom and Hasek a lot of credit. I don't think Anaheim has played their best hockey yet. Still, if Hasek continues to play well and Detroit can continue to keep the shots against down, it wouldn't surprise me to see them advance. I have to admit, a Buffalo/Detroit SCF would be intriguing....Hasek versus Buffalo?

I'd expect Anaheim/Detroit will be a low scoring series and Ottawa/Buffalo to be higher scoring and imo the more exciting of the two series.

Pendejo
05-08-2007, 04:12 AM
The Sharks have too many big names to keep choking this much.

I guess I'll have to root for the Ducks now. Ick. Brad May possibly winning a Stanley Cup....that just puts a bad taste in your mouth.

Still pulling for the Sabres to win the whole thing though.

I don't want to see brian burke's fat head win a Stanley cup either. Cripes...if Buffalo doesn't come out of the East I won't be able to pull for any of the remaining teams. If that is the case we'll just have to hope for Bettman to work some of his magic, and get the Finals canceled.

bronco militia
05-08-2007, 09:56 AM
good lord....f'n wings.

ducks..........ugh

go eastern confernece!

Smiling Assassin27
05-08-2007, 10:49 AM
the ducks should be able to pound the wings right out of the building, imo. the ducks are a better version of the sharks but with two of the 3 best defensemen in the west in pronger and niedermayer. the ducks have the advantage at the blue line and forwards are a push. goaltending is slight edge to wings but it won't be enough. the keys for the wings, if htey are to have a chance are lang and bertuzzi. if they disappear, the wings disappear, imo. ducks in 5. still, hell of a job closing it out last night.

Mtbrncofn
05-08-2007, 06:38 PM
good lord....f'n wings.

ducks..........ugh

go eastern confernece!

Yep. That's what I'm talkin' about.

Mtbrncofn
05-08-2007, 06:39 PM
the ducks should be able to pound the wings right out of the building, imo. the ducks are a better version of the sharks but with two of the 3 best defensemen in the west in pronger and niedermayer. the ducks have the advantage at the blue line and forwards are a push. goaltending is slight edge to wings but it won't be enough. the keys for the wings, if htey are to have a chance are lang and bertuzzi. if they disappear, the wings disappear, imo. ducks in 5. still, hell of a job closing it out last night.

I love reading your always rosy outlooks on your team. ;D

Smiling Assassin27
05-08-2007, 06:44 PM
it's called reverse psychology or Lou Holtz Disease.

observe: the wings will never be able to beat the ducks and will be lucky to score a goal in the series. and even if they do get by the ducks, the eastern conference team can send their IHL affiliate and beat us.

broncocalijohn
05-09-2007, 05:15 AM
it's called reverse psychology or Lou Holtz Disease.

observe: the wings will never be able to beat the ducks and will be lucky to score a goal in the series. and even if they do get by the ducks, the eastern conference team can send their IHL affiliate and beat us.

I ll take it as truthful gospel. Praise the Smiling Assassin! Both teams split regular season with home team winning all. Last game was a tDetroit and Ducks lost 1 to 0.

Smiling Assassin27
05-09-2007, 10:28 AM
as i recall, at least one of those games was when the ducks were without pronger, no? good luck.

broncocalijohn
05-12-2007, 06:22 PM
Francois was the 6th guy for Detroit yesterday. Amazing how well Ducks PK was for the season and playoffs and have 2 goals on them in one game. On to Sunday.

Bronx33
05-12-2007, 06:55 PM
Go sabers!

Al Wilson
05-13-2007, 12:22 AM
oh yaaaaaaa babyyy, sens with huge win in double ot!!!!!!!!!!

SoCalBronco
05-13-2007, 12:34 AM
oh yaaaaaaa babyyy, sens with huge win in double ot!!!!!!!!!!

Ottawa has its foot on Buffalo's neck right now up 2 and going home for a pair. We'll see if you can put them away in the next few games...you guys have been extremely impressive so far in the playoffs. I am now feeling better about losing in 5 to Ottawa.

Jori
05-13-2007, 12:51 PM
Sabres are done imo. The difference in special teams play between Ottawa and Buffalo is night and day.

Mtbrncofn
05-13-2007, 10:49 PM
Highly unimpressive, that's what I'm thinking of the Sabres this round. What a huge disappointment. I'm still rooting them on though.

Bronx33
05-13-2007, 11:16 PM
Quack!

Bronx33
05-13-2007, 11:40 PM
Looking at the wingies numbers i noticed that they have yet to score an even strength goal in 2 games, living off the PP will only take a team so far until the luck runs out.

Bronx33
05-13-2007, 11:42 PM
Sabres are done imo. The difference in special teams play between Ottawa and Buffalo is night and day.

Game three will be a huge gut check for the sabers for sure.

Smiling Assassin27
05-14-2007, 11:38 AM
Looking at the wingies numbers i noticed that they have yet to score an even strength goal in 2 games, living off the PP will only take a team so far until the luck runs out.

less skilled teams than the wings have managed to pull series out of their arses. hasek gave up 4 last night but he's playing at a very high level. considering they haven't scored even strength yet and are 1-1, they should be grateful. still, they can't afford to go into OT and deep into a series with these behemoths. i picked the ducks in 5 so we'll see.

broncocalijohn
05-14-2007, 04:30 PM
Funny thing is I am more worried about The Ducks on the power play and PK. They were red (insert pun) hot on their PK before this series. I see trouble for Ducks if they dont shut down this part of the game. Only cure would be to play without getting a penalty. Ducks first win at Detroit this year. Taking Home ice advantage.

Jori
05-14-2007, 10:14 PM
Just a dominant performance by Ottawa tonight. It was no contest. If not for Miller, it would have been a blow out.

Mtbrncofn
05-14-2007, 10:32 PM
What in THE hell is going on here? Where's the big high powered offense?! This sucks.

Al Wilson
05-14-2007, 10:39 PM
What in THE hell is going on here? Where's the big high powered offense?! This sucks.
The Sabres are no contest for Ottawa. Seriously, did you think those puny players would just play around with Ottawa's D? The Sabres can't score because they're not a physical team. They're soft and can't forecheck and play around the boards. I hope we finish them off Wednesday so I can get my cup tickets already :wiggle:

broncocalijohn
05-15-2007, 05:03 AM
Chris Kunitz out of postseason with broken hand!

Here is the link from the Ducks website

http://www.mightyducks.com/press/release/topstory.php?dir=200604&id=1711

Smiling Assassin27
05-15-2007, 10:18 AM
Ottawa looks tough. I'm happy for them and think either team from the West will have a hell of a time beating them 4 out of 7.

Bronx33
05-15-2007, 10:05 PM
less skilled teams than the wings have managed to pull series out of their arses. hasek gave up 4 last night but he's playing at a very high level. considering they haven't scored even strength yet and are 1-1, they should be grateful. still, they can't afford to go into OT and deep into a series with these behemoths. i picked the ducks in 5 so we'll see.


I would probably credit the lack of even strength goals to the ducks defense (which is extremely good) at poke checking and clogging of the passing lanes there is very little room to operate.

Bronx33
05-15-2007, 10:10 PM
Is it just me or are the annoucers blowing the wings all game every game? and i see bert holds a stick against his hip and draws a penalty for yet another 5 on 3, i do believe they have gotten one every game thus far in this series on weak calls.

Bronx33
05-15-2007, 10:53 PM
The quacks have a complete melt down in the second and spend the entire 2 period on the PK, and the refs kick the wrong guy out of the game on the homer hit.

Smiling Assassin27
05-16-2007, 10:26 AM
Is it just me or are the annoucers blowing the wings all game every game? and i see bert holds a stick against his hip and draws a penalty for yet another 5 on 3, i do believe they have gotten one every game thus far in this series on weak calls.

yeah, you're real objective...:thumbsup:

refereeing has been attrocious for both teams in this series. only one team has taken advantage of the PP this far.

Smiling Assassin27
05-16-2007, 10:28 AM
The quacks have a complete melt down in the second and spend the entire 2 period on the PK, and the refs kick the wrong guy out of the game on the homer hit.


how does the Ducks' forecheck go from utterly dominating to non-existent in a single night? this is definitely not what i expected to see with the 5 on 5 problem being completely erased by detroit and the ducks defense just vaporizing.

pronger's such an ass. how they toss niedermayer and not that big bucket of guts is beyond me. do we see any suspensions?

Smiling Assassin27
05-16-2007, 05:24 PM
Pronger is out for Game 4. Given his history against the Red Wings, the Ducks may consider this lucky.

Pronger suspended for hit on Wings' Holmstrom

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Associated Press

ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Anaheim Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger received a one-game suspension from the NHL on Wednesday for his hit on Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom the previous night.


The Red Wings' Tomas Holmstrom was flattened by the Ducks' Chris Pronger in Game 3.


Pronger, a former Norris Trophy winner and a finalist for the award this year, will miss Game 4 of the Ducks-Red Wings series Thursday night in Anaheim. He leads the Ducks with 12 points, including three goals, during this year's playoffs.


Detroit beat Anaheim 5-0 on Tuesday night to take a 2-1 lead in the best-of-seven Western Conference finals.


Holmstrom had two goals and an assist in the blowout, but left the game midway through the second period to get cuts on his forehead stitched up after Pronger and teammate Rob Niedermayer almost simultaneously slammed him into the glass.


Niedermayer drew a five-minute major for boarding and was ejected, but Pronger was not assessed a penalty on the play. The NHL reviewed the play Wednesday, Pronger spoke to the league on the phone and the decision was made to suspend him.


Holmstrom returned to begin the third period and had an assist on the Red Wings' final goal.


He said after the game that he wasn't exactly sure what happened.


"I got run into the boards, got hit again," Holmstrom said. "I never saw the guy come from behind.


"Get stitched up, yeah, I was ready for the third."


Niedermayer said he was surprised by the penalty.


"All I did was take a few strides, finish my check and hit him with my shoulder," he said. "You don't want to see anybody hurt out there, that's for sure. I'm glad he was back playing."

Smiling Assassin27
05-16-2007, 06:04 PM
Nice try Brian...

Pronger gets one game
Posted by Ansar Khan May 16, 2007 16:15PM
Categories: Breaking News
Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger was suspended for one game for his hit from behind to Tomas Holmstrom's head in Game 3 Tuesday, the NHL announced Wednesday. Pronger will sit out Game 4 Thursday. It further depletes an Anaheim defense that was relying on four players for the bulk of the minutes. For a player who was so poised and solid against the Wings in the first round of the playoffs last year with Edmonton, apparently, it was only a matter of time before the wreckless, undisciplined Pronger of old returned.

Ducks general manager Brian Burke, naturally, said he disagreed withe the ruling. Pronger banged Holmstrom's head off the glass at 11:40 of the second period. Holmstrom needed stitches to close two cuts in his forehead but returned to start the third period.

"If you watch some of the other views it looks like a dangerous high hit, but if you look at the end-zone view, it shows it best,'' Burke said. "Chris Pronger went to hit Tomas Holmstrom at a 45-degree angle from the boards and at no point is Holmstrom's face facing the boards, at no point is Chris delivering a hit toward the boards, he's coming in to finish the check at a 45-degree angle.

"So we disagree complete with the notion Chris Pronger should be suspended for a game. But, we respect the process.''

The referees ejected the wrong player (Rob Niedermayer) from the game. Niedermayer and Pronger converged on Holmstrom at the same time, but it was Pronger's hit to the head that caused the damage. Burke said he has asked the league to rescind the game misconduct to Niedermayer and expects that to happen.

"Chris Pronger is an elite player in our league. He's a tough Canadian who plays the game the way we want to play,'' Burke said. "We don't approve of guys head hunting, we don't think that's what this was.''

Burke complimented the Wings' handling of the situation.

"We think Detroit behaved very honorably by putting the player back on the ice,'' Burke said. "The player had two cuts, both of which would have been covered by his helmet had it been properly attached. It came off four times last night.

"There's teams in this league that would have put him in an ambulance and sent him somewhere for the night. Detroit did the right thing.''

broncocalijohn
05-17-2007, 03:13 AM
Smiling, what is your problem here. Burke didnt go off the deep end here. If Pronger was 6 foot 2, the hit wouldnt be as bad. You mouth off like Pronger has problems like this continuous. It isnt like he is some guy names Betruzzi.

Smiling Assassin27
05-17-2007, 10:51 AM
Believe me, what he did was far worse than what Pronger did. BUt you seem to want to divert attention from Pronger's cheap shot rather than deal with it. I'm not saying he's a dirty player (though anyone who has ever watched him for ANY length of time knows he's as chippy as they come) but he is a physical player who loses control. If Pronger was 6'2 is irrelevant. Pronger is 6'6" and is aware that elbows to the head are illegal, yet still does it. It's his job to make accommodations for his height. Chara has the same responsibility, it goes with playing the game.

Blaming the player for not having his helmet on properly is going off the deep end. I understand Brian has to do anything he can to win the series but that's just foolish, IMO. The reason he's not lathered up and lashing out loudly is because he probably knows that Pronger's action demands the suspension he got.

Homer probably saved Pronger from a longer suspension by getting back into the game.

broncocalijohn
05-17-2007, 09:31 PM
HE got suspended! How much more you want? He didnt hit him in the head but the shoulders. If he was shorter, the hit is in the back not the shoulders. And yes he needs to be careful because of his height but the point was that his actions in game 3 are not how he should be looked upon from the past or future. Physical? Damn skippy and I wouldnt want anything less. The helmet item was the fact that if he had it on properly, the reaction wouldnt have been so severe. The penalty would have still been called regardless. Hell, they called it on the wrong guy! Back to the game.

Bronx33
05-18-2007, 12:26 AM
yeah, you're real objective...:thumbsup:

refereeing has been attrocious for both teams in this series. only one team has taken advantage of the PP this far.


And the 5 on 3 total goes up yet again :approve: but sadly a non existant gay hooking call soon after got em their game tying goal.

Smiling Assassin27
05-18-2007, 10:35 AM
HE got suspended! How much more you want? He didnt hit him in the head but the shoulders. If he was shorter, the hit is in the back not the shoulders. And yes he needs to be careful because of his height but the point was that his actions in game 3 are not how he should be looked upon from the past or future. Physical? Damn skippy and I wouldnt want anything less. The helmet item was the fact that if he had it on properly, the reaction wouldnt have been so severe. The penalty would have still been called regardless. Hell, they called it on the wrong guy! Back to the game.


One game is fine with me. In fact, in a different point in the game, I'd settle for a game misconduct and call it good. But in mop up time, that was cheap and the one game was fine. Ironic that O'Donnell was bemoaning how when games are out of hand, people take 'liberties' on the winning team and that it has to stop, then Pronger does this.

Anyway, nice win last night. The Ducks were 1-1 v Detroit without Pronger this season so I knew it was perfectly conceivable that they'd show up, hit hard, and win. Jiggy was sick. The Wings pi$$ed away a couple of golden opportunities but, on the whole, a not so bad loss. At least I'm more confident that they can hang with the Ducks now. The young guys ain't exactly 'closers' yet, so we'll see how they finish up this series in a best of 3. :strong:

Smiling Assassin27
05-18-2007, 10:37 AM
And the 5 on 3 total goes up yet again :approve: but sadly a non existant gay hooking call soon after got em their game tying goal.


and we pi$$ed them all away...actually, Jiggy stole 'em from us...fargin' bastidge.

Mtbrncofn
05-18-2007, 08:52 PM
The Sabres are no contest for Ottawa. Seriously, did you think those puny players would just play around with Ottawa's D? The Sabres can't score because they're not a physical team. They're soft and can't forecheck and play around the boards. I hope we finish them off Wednesday so I can get my cup tickets already :wiggle:

No offense, man....but you are exactly the reason I'm rooting against the Sens. One word....arrogant. :)

chadta
05-19-2007, 11:37 AM
No offense, man....but you are exactly the reason I'm rooting against the Sens. One word....arrogant. :)

ya cant call them arrogant, cuz to be arrogant dont you have to actually accomplish something.

i got my wish, both the leafs and the habs missed the playoffs on the last day of the season, now the only thing that would make this better would be ottawa going to the final, and losing in game 7 in triple overtime, so they can feel the same heartbreak as the leafs fans, or better yet, maybe they can get screwed like the sabres did a la brett hull, it couldnt happen to a more deserving team, less it happened to the sabres again, id be fine with that too.

GO DUCKS, GO WINGS

Pendejo
05-19-2007, 04:50 PM
Oh man...you know your league is in trouble when your major network stops coverage of a conference final game heading for overtime...to show horse racing. That's all sorts of f***ed up.

Yipes!

(Edit: It's not even the race. It's pre-race coverage.)

Al Wilson
05-19-2007, 07:28 PM
No offense, man....but you are exactly the reason I'm rooting against the Sens. One word....arrogant. :)
Arrogant? The most arrogant and homer fans are Sabres fans. Half their fan base are homers, and dumbasses. And why would you not cheer for the Sabres? Every fan of hockey in the U.S. was cheering for them because they have a good, exciting offensive team.

Chadta, I'm loving the sig, bro.

chadta
05-19-2007, 11:07 PM
Half their fan base are homers, and dumbasses.

unfortunatly i have to agree with al, sabre fans suck, i laugh my ass off how they got 9,000 people to watch game 4 on tv in the hsbc, when 3 years ago they couldnt get 9,000 people to a home game, much like 2 years from now when the team sucks again nobody will watch them.

Mtbrncofn
05-19-2007, 11:07 PM
Damn, I might have to root for the WC team now. What a shame. I was rooting for the Sabres because of the Drury connection.

alkemical
05-20-2007, 12:34 AM
Go wings!

Jori
05-20-2007, 01:34 AM
I was rooting for Drury as well, but I wouldn't mind seeing Ottawa win the Cup.

SoCalBronco
05-20-2007, 06:23 PM
I don't really care for either club, so it doesnt really matter to me, but its getting pretty gay the way Anaheim is "winning" the last couple games despite getting thoroughly outplayed over and over again.

Bronx33
05-20-2007, 06:29 PM
I don't really care for either club, so it doesnt really matter to me, but its getting pretty gay the way Anaheim is "winning" the last couple games despite getting thoroughly outplayed over and over again.


The bend don't break style of hockey is far from gay or lets put it this way if the ducks were to allow the wingies to open it up the ducks would have been buyin golf clubs after game four. It is the best way to hamndle the wings and a smart move buy carslye and it's paying off.

Bronx33
05-20-2007, 06:32 PM
and we pi$$ed them all away...actually, Jiggy stole 'em from us...fargin' bastidge.


Giggy got past another 5 on 3 ;D

Bronx33
05-20-2007, 06:59 PM
Looking at berts minutes he appears to have hurt his vagina again.

Bronx33
05-20-2007, 11:13 PM
This cracked me up..
http://bp0.blogger.com/_V5XIbaAr_lE/RkiXpwpfU6I/AAAAAAAAADc/7ltFCARFw0A/s400/canucks.jpg
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/images/uploads/teljeurchelios.gif

Mtbrncofn
05-21-2007, 03:34 AM
Ha! That's great.

Smiling Assassin27
05-21-2007, 10:24 AM
Looking at berts minutes he appears to have hurt his vagina again.

I'm guessing he wrenched his back again. Maybe Babcork will open his eyes and get Hudler back out there now.

Smiling Assassin27
05-21-2007, 10:27 AM
Giggy got past another 5 on 3 ;D

Ouch. That one stung a little. Jiggy's stolen 2 in a row. Better start playing Flames hockey and start running the guy. IMO, yesterday was a day we missed schneider (and kronwall) big time. schneider has that blast from the point that makes the PP go and our PP has gone.

Jori
05-21-2007, 09:05 PM
Avs sign four.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=923

Leopold -- two years
Finger -- one year
Sauer -- one year


They also signed Dartmouth forward David Jones to a two-year entry level contract.

SoCalBronco
05-21-2007, 09:19 PM
http://bp2.blogger.com/_fw7iF68JR8k/RlDiE9tJpAI/AAAAAAAADPE/lU9SmY0ojus/s320/Duck+Hunt+Wing.jpg

broncocalijohn
05-22-2007, 03:55 AM
Ouch. That one stung a little. Jiggy's stolen 2 in a row. Better start playing Flames hockey and start running the guy. IMO, yesterday was a day we missed schneider (and kronwall) big time. schneider has that blast from the point that makes the PP go and our PP has gone.

No problem. We beat those guys too last year. Tuesday night Game 6 Gotta love it. I must admit, Giggy is once again the backbone of this playoff team but do the guys at NBC give any credit to the team as a whole for at least the overtime? Maybe Versus has something better for me come tonight.

Pendejo
05-22-2007, 04:26 AM
Avs sign four.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=923

Leopold -- two years
Finger -- one year
Sauer -- one year


They also signed Dartmouth forward David Jones to a two-year entry level contract.

Good. Hopefully Leopold can get on the ice on a regular basis next season. It will be interesting to see if Sauer builds off of his solid play late in the year, and realizes that he's a big guy and should play like it.

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 04:26 PM
No problem. We beat those guys too last year. Tuesday night Game 6 Gotta love it. I must admit, Giggy is once again the backbone of this playoff team but do the guys at NBC give any credit to the team as a whole for at least the overtime? Maybe Versus has something better for me come tonight.


Iam tired of those retards the last comment that made me smile was when dats makes a nice ballerina move to gets a shot (which they just couldn't talk about enough) and failed to even remotely even mention the fact giggy made a sweet save on nancy kerrigan.

Smiling Assassin27
05-22-2007, 06:06 PM
uh, that's EDNA Kerrigan...

Mtbrncofn
05-22-2007, 07:48 PM
Oooo big suspense tonight. Do the Winger Dingers get sent packin'? This should be a great one.

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 09:10 PM
I wonder if the goon is going to play?

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 09:20 PM
neids with a pronger helper 1-0

perry wide open making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich beside the net takes a break from his sandwich to send it home 2-0

Getzlaf cleaning up some trash after haseks failed snow angel
3-0

3-1

phalsson slides another one under haseks snow angel 4-1

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 11:39 PM
Absolutley sad call on the hook on chelios a bush league ref wouldn't even fall for that move.

Jori
05-22-2007, 11:51 PM
Ducks and Sens for all the marbles.

Pezman
05-22-2007, 11:55 PM
Wow, great ending to that game. Even if the freaking Ducks had a golden gift for that previous game, they earned it tonight. The Red Wings looked like a shell for the first 40 minutes tonight.

Congrats Calijohn, but I'll be rooting for the Sens!

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 11:58 PM
Well a travisty was averted keeping bertuzzis name off the cup. (**** him)

Bronx33
05-22-2007, 11:58 PM
Wow, great ending to that game. Even if the freaking Ducks had a golden gift for that previous game, they earned it tonight. The Red Wings looked like a shell for the first 40 minutes tonight.

Congrats Calijohn, but I'll be rooting for the Sens!


Yep the sens are going to bring it to the ducks in a big way.

Pezman
05-23-2007, 12:08 AM
Yep the sens are going to bring it to the ducks in a big way.

Ya gotta root for a team who had such humble beginnings back in its inception. Man I'll never forget their first few squads and how bad they got beat down... Props to them!
Although, I'm sure the NHL isnt thrilled about the team with the smallest market in Canada in the main event.

I guess we are done seeing Bryzgalov in goal for the Ducks for sure eh?

SoCalBronco
05-23-2007, 01:12 AM
Unless Giguere can continue to stand on his head, Ottawa will throttle the Ducks.

Jori
05-23-2007, 01:13 AM
I'm rooting for Ottawa as well; mostly for my dislike of Brian Burke.

Pezman
05-23-2007, 01:15 AM
Unless Giguere can continue to stand on his head, Ottawa will throttle the Ducks.

Agree there bro. I was actually impressed at how well the Red Wings withstood the Ducks physical style. If they can do it, surely a younger and stronger Sens team can take em right?

Wanna go to game 1 or 2 bro?

Tredici
05-23-2007, 01:26 AM
I'm rooting for Ottawa as well; mostly for my dislike of Brian Burke.


Dang you beat me too it. I had the identical post in mind...

Wonder where The Beast ends up next? He did add a new dimension of ugly to those red jammies but somehow I doubt they keep him around. And 257 year old Flopinator can go with him.

broncocalijohn
05-23-2007, 02:35 AM
neids with a pronger helper 1-0

perry wide open making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich beside the net takes a break from his sandwich to send it home 2-0

Getzlaf cleaning up some trash after haseks failed snow angel
3-0

3-1

phalsson slides another one under haseks snow angel 4-1

Every goal by Anaheim was with haseks on his back floundering around like a fish out of the water.

broncocalijohn
05-23-2007, 02:40 AM
Absolutley sad call on the hook on chelios a bush league ref wouldn't even fall for that move.

If you mean the one at the end of the game where Chelios held onto the stick of Moen under his wing clip was ticky tacky but Chelios has been playing twice as long as some of those refs. He is probably 10 years older too.

Ottawa have the top 3 scorers this postseason so it better be another Giggy like playoff series. The PP was horrible this last series. Hats off to the Wings on finding a way to clobber the Ducks on this but as the Yankees said to the Bad News Bears, "We still think you suck!" NOTE: Talking smack on the fact we like to knock out the WIngs every playoff series.

ILL BE COMING BACK FROM LHC AND LAUGHLIN ON MONDAY SO I WILL LOOK AT WEDNESDAY NIGHT GAME #2. IT IS HARDER TO SNEAK IN NOW WITH THEIR SCANNERS ON THE TICKET TO REENTRY. DOESNT MEAN I WON'T TRY TO GATE CRASH THOUGH.

Smiling Assassin27
05-23-2007, 10:27 AM
Nice series. Still stinging over game 5 but hey, given where the Wings were picked to finish this year, it was still a solid year. Let's go Sens, i guess. Congrats to the Ducks, they're the better team in the WEst.

bronco militia
05-23-2007, 11:23 AM
the Dominator was the Flopinator last night...

go sens

oh, and the Redwings still SUCK!!

;D

Bronx33
05-23-2007, 03:41 PM
If you mean the one at the end of the game where Chelios held onto the stick of Moen under his wing clip was ticky tacky but Chelios has been playing twice as long as some of those refs. He is probably 10 years older too.

Ottawa have the top 3 scorers this postseason so it better be another Giggy like playoff series. The PP was horrible this last series. Hats off to the Wings on finding a way to clobber the Ducks on this but as the Yankees said to the Bad News Bears, "We still think you suck!" NOTE: Talking smack on the fact we like to knock out the WIngs every playoff series.

ILL BE COMING BACK FROM LHC AND LAUGHLIN ON MONDAY SO I WILL LOOK AT WEDNESDAY NIGHT GAME #2. IT IS HARDER TO SNEAK IN NOW WITH THEIR SCANNERS ON THE TICKET TO REENTRY. DOESNT MEAN I WON'T TRY TO GATE CRASH THOUGH.



Yep, moen even let go of his stick while chelios skated ahead (it looked like he had a spear in his back) but mr ref still made the call (pretty sad) IMO i really don't care how long chelios has been playing it was a cheap move to gain an advantage (iam glad it failed)

Bronx33
05-23-2007, 03:48 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2007-05-22-wings-ducks-gm6_N.htm

After Pavel Datsyuk's second power-play goal made it 4-3 with 3:04 left, what had looked like a laugher was a nail-biter.

"A nightmare," Ducks forward Teemu Selanne called it.

Selanne and Pronger ripped the refs for calls in the third period, when the Ducks were penalized three times, the Red Wings none.

Said Selanne, "When you have to beat the referees, too, it's tough."

Added Pronger, "When we're getting penalty after penalty on pretty weak calls, a lot of guys were talking about conspiracy theories."

bronco militia
05-23-2007, 03:54 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2007-05-22-wings-ducks-gm6_N.htm



Added Pronger, "When we're getting penalty after penalty on pretty weak calls, a lot of guys were talking about conspiracy theories."

lmao @ the POS Pronger......didn't he blame his cheap shot of Homer on physics?

broncocalijohn
05-23-2007, 04:45 PM
Tickets go on sale 10am Saturday for home games at Anaheim. Check out ticketmaster.com and mightyducks.com (yes, you can use the old name to get to the site). I want to see Pez and SoCal there. Mini Bronco might make his first game if he gets tickets.

Pezman
05-23-2007, 05:06 PM
Tickets go on sale 10am Saturday for home games at Anaheim. Check out ticketmaster.com and mightyducks.com (yes, you can use the old name to get to the site). I want to see Pez and SoCal there. Mini Bronco might make his first game if he gets tickets.

Heh, we'll get our usual Broadcom tix Cali. I "might" even buy a beer for ya :thanku: :thumbsup:

Jori
05-23-2007, 06:09 PM
Dang you beat me too it. I had the identical post in mind...

Wonder where The Beast ends up next? He did add a new dimension of ugly to those red jammies but somehow I doubt they keep him around. And 257 year old Flopinator can go with him.

My guess is that Bertuzzi ends up in Phoenix.

Jori
05-23-2007, 09:17 PM
Big news....Predators sold!

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=6560713

The NHL in Nashville is on shaky ground.

Tredici
05-24-2007, 12:20 AM
Think Basillie will drag one of those Southern US hockey teams (you know pioneered by Mike Modano) back across the border to the north?

Jori
05-24-2007, 12:53 AM
If it goes through, I don't think the Predators stand a chance of staying in Nashville. It's a shame that some of the local businesses in the area have offered little support to the team. They have a good fan base, but little corporate support. Whether the team ends up north of the border, it wouldn't shock me. I'd rather see a team in The Peg or back in Quebec City then another one in Ontario.

I'm hoping for the best for Nashville fans.

broncocalijohn
05-24-2007, 03:33 AM
Big news....Predators sold!

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=6560713

The NHL in Nashville is on shaky ground.

Great news for Kariya. First his first team that he bailed out on after taking them the first time to the finals is now going again while he got bounced in the first round and now his hick town team is in trouble. Have fun Paul.

Mtbrncofn
05-24-2007, 07:22 PM
What a cluster ****. I don't like either team in the Finals. Geez.

Mtbrncofn
05-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Great news for Kariya. First his first team that he bailed out on after taking them the first time to the finals is now going again while he got bounced in the first round and now his hick town team is in trouble. Have fun Paul.

Little bitter?

Tredici
05-25-2007, 01:48 AM
Congrats to the Colorado Eagles. At least some team around here has something to put in the trophy case.

Hey Montana - Peter Forsberg sightings all over town. Apparently he still has a residency here in Denver. Come on July 1.

bronco militia
05-25-2007, 11:31 AM
he's trying out some new skates....

Whether or not it's with the Avs, Forsberg will return

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=frei_terry&id=2873512

Mtbrncofn
05-25-2007, 06:21 PM
Congrats to the Colorado Eagles. At least some team around here has something to put in the trophy case.

Hey Montana - Peter Forsberg sightings all over town. Apparently he still has a residency here in Denver. Come on July 1.

So we can be let down yet again? This is just cruel. I can't even get my hopes up again.

Damnit, they already are whether I want to admit it or not.

alkemical
05-26-2007, 11:57 AM
Crosby, Malkin win Sporting News awards (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07142/788072-61.stm)

Tuesday, May 22, 2007
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

In what is becoming a pattern, Penguins center Sidney Crosby was named Player of the Year by the Sporting News in a vote among league players.

Crosby, 19, who won the Art Ross Trophy as the NHL scoring leader for 2006-07 with 120 points, received 110 of 210 votes from his peers. He also was named the magazine's All-Star center.

NHL players voted Penguins forward Evgeni Malkin the Sporting News Rookie of the Year. He garnered 121 of 210 votes after getting 85 points as a 20-year-old first-year NHL player.

The Penguins' Michel Therrien finished second to Nashville's Barry Trotz in Coach of the Year voting, which was a poll of league coaches.

Crosby earlier was named the top player by The Hockey News.

The NHL season awards will be announced during the league's annual soiree June 14 in Toronto. Crosby, Malkin and Therrien are finalists.

Bronx33
05-26-2007, 05:25 PM
If it goes through, I don't think the Predators stand a chance of staying in Nashville. It's a shame that some of the local businesses in the area have offered little support to the team. They have a good fan base, but little corporate support. Whether the team ends up north of the border, it wouldn't shock me. I'd rather see a team in The Peg or back in Quebec City then another one in Ontario.

I'm hoping for the best for Nashville fans.


Iam with ya on on this jori i would love to see either of those cities get another franchise.

Bronx33
05-26-2007, 05:38 PM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-elliott24may24,1,1515687.column?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks&ctrack=1&cset=true


A declaration in this space two weeks ago that the Ducks would defeat the Red Wings in the Western Conference finals — and that Detroit could no longer call itself Hockeytown because games at Joe Louis Arena weren't selling out — generated hundreds of impassioned responses.

Some were even free of obscenities.

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Red Wings fans, many of whom listed return addresses in Arizona, Texas or Tennessee, indignantly defended their team and the city's puck passion. The NHL may have a comparatively small audience south of the Canadian border, but its followers are unmatched in their devotion.

But a disappointing number of those "fans" channeled that passion into hate and skipped rational arguments to spew sexist venom.

A sampling, minus the expletives but with spelling and grammar intact:

"If Detroit wins, your gonna be gettiing a [ton] more emails from me you [prostitute]. Why don't you report on your own teams from now on. Like the Kings, where are they? Or the Lakers? Women should stick to writing articles about cooking and homemaking and NOT sports, cuz its obvious you have no idea what....you are talking about, [Don Imus word]."

"You have no idea what your baby ducks are in for! A woman writing about hockey in southern California! Leave the hockey to us sweetheart!"

"You are one cocky writer. I am going to remember that damn story and if the wings win the series, I'm gonna laugh in your face via e-mail. If there's one kind of writer I have no respect for, it's a writer exactly like you who writes worthless … like that.

"I'm surprised your man let you out of the kitchen long enough to write this article. You don't know much about sports, so you should stick to cleaning the house."

"Of course what do women know about hockey anyway. Go back to the kitchen and make me something to eat."

Which segues into a proposed menu:

"Stick to what you in California know intimately. Granola."

And insults directed at L.A.:

"You just showed on little you know about hockey write about something you know like smog, gangs, traffic, pollution. Stuff everyone in LA can relate too."

Then there was the generic curse:

"Burn in Hockey Hell."

The Ducks eliminated the Red Wings in six games and advanced to the Stanley Cup finals, but the idea here isn't to gloat.

It's to suggest that the unprecedented torrents of anger sent this way are better aimed at Mike Ilitch, the Red Wings' owner, and the club executives who set playoff ticket prices too high for an area that has been gut-punched by the auto industry's decline, the departure of Comerica Bank's headquarters for Texas and growing unemployment.

The Red Wings didn't sell out any of nine home playoff games, ending a streak of 452 consecutive sellouts. Although the announced attendance was often close to capacity — NHL teams announce tickets distributed, not people in the building — the large clusters of empty seats told of an economic alienation that will become an emotional divorce if the Red Wings don't return some of the loyalty they've long enjoyed.

The recent success of the Tigers and Pistons has diverted some fans away from the Red Wings. That, coupled with the Red Wings' early playoff exits the last few seasons, left fans cautious about investing their money and hope in a team they weren't sure would go far, especially because the investment required was sizable.

The average regular-season Red Wings ticket cost $43.13, according to Team Marketing Report, but the cheapest first-round playoff ticket was $63 and the top was $144. That increased with each round and topped out at $225 for the conference finals. The Pistons sold 1,000 tickets for the first round at $12 each and their lowest price for the conference finals is $24.

Many fans who sent e-mails this way said they couldn't afford Stanley Cup playoff tickets after they had shared season tickets with friends and built vacations around Red Wings trips. Some felt doubly disrespected because they couldn't get Versus, the obscure cable TV network that had exclusive U.S. rights to the conference finals.

A restaurant manager and longtime Red Wings fan said poor business had led her company to close 10 of its 12 restaurants. She must turn away job applicants every day. "People like us are the true hockey town," she wrote. "We're still here, we're just broke."

Another fan said the slump in the auto industry forces people "to make decisions like whether the car payment gets made or junior gets lunch money this week. The cost of tickets is out of reach for many people who in the past were able to go to these games and cheer the Wings to Lord Stanley's prize."

What happened to the lower ticket prices NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said would accompany the new economic system that he killed the 2004-05 season to get?

The Ducks won the West, but every fan loses when Hockeytown suffers. We share your pain, though not the sexist sentiments.

Bronx33
05-26-2007, 05:43 PM
Write #1

CP) - The Ottawa Senators send the best line in the playoffs against the NHL's best trio of defencemen when they face the Anaheim Ducks in the Stanley Cup final.

Game 1 goes Monday night in Anaheim (8 p.m. ET). Centre Jason Spezza and wingers Daniel Alfredsson and Dany Heatley have been the best line in the playoffs, combining for 23 goals and 58 points in 15 games.

The Ducks counter with Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Francois Beauchemin at the blue-line, who have each averaged more than 30 minutes of ice time per game in the post-season.

But the Senators can also defend and have Ray Emery playing above expectations in goal, while Anaheim can also score and have rock-solid Jean-Sebastien Giguere in the net.

Here's a look at how the finalists match up:

Forwards

Spezza, Alfredsson and Heatley have scored at least one goal in every playoff game but one and have motored through the best checking lines of Pittsburgh, New Jersey and Buffalo, not to mention solving two of the East's best goalies in Martin Brodeur and Ryan Miller.

They will likely see a lot of Anaheim's excellent checking trio of Samuel Pahlsson, Rob Niedermayer and Travis Moen.

Ottawa hasn't had enough offence from its second line of Mike Fisher, Mike Comrie and Peter Schaeffer (six goals between them), although they've played well defensively.

Anaheim's young second line of Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry and Dustin Penner has been its most dangerous, with Getzlaf emerging as a solid power forward, but Teemu Selanne, Andy McDonald and, of late, Todd Marchant have been inconsistent. They're missing injured Chris Kunitz.

Also, Ottawa uses its fourth line nearly twice as much as Anaheim, keeping its top lines fresher.

Advantage: Ottawa.

Defence

One would likely have to go back to the 1970s Montreal Canadiens to find three defencemen as strong as Pronger, Niedermayer and Beauchemin on one team.

Almost always, at least one of them is on the ice, so their defence is rarely overmanned.

Ottawa has seen shot-blocking aces Chris Phillips and Anton Volchenkov emerge as its top duo and they will likely try to use their size and physical play to counter Getzlaf's line.

If not, Wade Redden and Andrei Meszaros are a strong second duo.

Joe Corvo and Tom Preissing give Ottawa more depth on defence, but Anaheim has the bigger guns.

Advantage: Anaheim.

Goal

Giguere lost his No. 1 ranking after leading Anaheim to the 2003 final, but has won it back with big play in the playoffs. He's 9-3 with a 1.87 goals-against average and a sterling .931 save percentage. He also looks very much in control in his crease.

Ottawa's Ray Emery, who is 12-3 with a 1.95 GAA and a .919 save percentage, has looked steadier and more confident as the playoffs progress but probably won't convince all his detractors until he has a Stanley Cup.

Advantage: Anaheim.

Special teams

The Senators power play has scored on 20 per cent of its chances to 15.3 per cent for Anaheim. Better yet, Ottawa's power play is clicking at 31.2 per cent in road games, where the team is 7-1 in these playoffs.

Penalty killing is close, with Ottawa at 88.6 per cent and Anaheim 87.5 per cent.

Advantage: Ottawa.

Intangibles

The Ducks were in the final in 2003; Ottawa is there for the first time. Neither has ever won.

Anaheim captain Scott Niedermayer has won three Stanley Cups; Ottawa's only ring belongs to backup goalie Martin Gerber.

The Ducks are missing Kunitz, while Ottawa has its full squad healthy.

The Senators are backed by a hockey-mad country, while most of the United States is indifferent to Anaheim.

Advantage: Even.

Write up #2

The 2007 Stanley Cup finals pairs a juggernaut with few discernible flaws with a could-be juggernaut with a penchant for self-destruction. In other words, the clash between the Ottawa Senators and the Anaheim Ducks has all the makings of a classic. That is, unless the Ducks lose their collective minds, which they have shown the ability to do, and the Senators have their way with them.

At the start of the regular season, there were many who believed Anaheim was capable of arriving at just this point -- the Stanley Cup finals. Not so many thought the Senators would get here. But how the teams arrived here has dramatically changed the perception of both heading into the finals.

The Senators have been virtually flawless in dispatching the Pittsburgh Penguins, New Jersey Devils and the Presidents' Trophy-winning Buffalo Sabres -- all in five games. They have never trailed in a series and are 7-3 in one-goal games. They lead the NHL playoffs with 3.20 goals per game and are third in goals-against, allowing just 2.07 per game.

The penalty kill also has been terrific, allowing just nine power-play goals on 79 opportunities. Against Buffalo, they allowed two power-play goals on 29 attempts. Nine times in their past 13 games, the Sens have not allowed a goal on the man-advantage. They have not lost when they score first. And, they have the most prolific line in the playoffs in Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza and Daniel Alfredsson, who rank 1-2-4, respectively, in playoff scoring with a combined 58 points.

They also boast a deep and talented defensive corps that has been led by the ultimate shut-down duo, Chris Phillips and Anton Volchenkov, who helped neutralize the NHL's highest-scoring team, the Sabres. The Sabres scored just 10 times in five games.

The Ducks, on the other hand, boast a handful of elite players, especially along the blue line, where Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Francois Beauchemin will all play upwards of 30 minutes a night.

They have Teemu Selanne, a battle-tested warrior looking for his first taste from Lord Stanley's Cup, and an underappreciated netminder in Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who is virtually unstoppable once a game goes to overtime (he is 12-1 in OT, the best record from the start of an NHL career).

But the Ducks' curious effort against the Red Wings sends them to the finals with more than a few question marks. Most notable is whether the Ducks suddenly can develop enough self-discipline to avoid self-immolation and whether their lack of depth will turn out to be an Achilles' heel against a deeper team. It wasn't against the Detroit Red Wings, but it might be against the Senators.

1. Goalie talk. Can we stop all this talk about how Giguere gets no respect? Please. Part of coach Randy Carlyle's master plan is to instill an us-against-the-world mentality in the locker room, but even dim-witted hockey scribes can look at stats and see that Giguere has been other-worldly.

He has a 1.87 GAA and .931 save percentage. When the game was on the line in the third period against Detroit on Tuesday night, Giguere stood tall. The Wings out-shot the Ducks 16-3 in that same period, but Giguere made a handful of stops, often in traffic, to preserve the series-clinching 4-3 victory. We admit, at times, he appears not to know where the puck is, yet he is so technically sound that maybe seeing the puck is overrated. He will be facing a sophomore netminder in Ray Emery, who has emerged as a steady if unspectacular backstopper, who has compiled a 1.95 GAA and .919 save percentage.

Neither netminder handles the puck particularly well, but Emery seems to be more of an all-round adventure. All in all, Giguere gives the Ducks an edge heading into a series where they seem outmatched in other ways.

2. How deep are your lines? Carlyle can talk all he wants about his team being a four-line team. But the bottom line is his fourth line might as well come out to the bench wearing parkas and carrying mugs of hot cocoa to keep warm given the amount of ice time they get.

In Game 6 versus Detroit, Brad May, Joe Motzko and Ryan Carter combined for 9:33 of ice time. Earlier in the series, when Dustin Penner was struggling, the second-line forward saw his ice time dip to just over 10 minutes a night. In short, Carlyle has two offensive lines and his checking line, and that's pretty much it (unless someone sneaks over the boards without him noticing).

The Senators, on the other hand, have received valuable contributions from throughout their forward contingent. Eleven different Ottawa forwards have scored at least one goal as opposed to eight Ducks forwards. No Ottawa player averages 24 minutes in ice time a night, while Pronger, Niedermayer and Beauchemin average more than 30 minutes a night. Over the course of a long series -- and who doesn't expect this one to go at least six games? -- these distinctions might be slight but crucial.

3. The Twin Towers, revisited. During the West finals, it was hard to know what to make of the play from Niedermayer and Pronger. Niedermayer was certainly not at his best. He took ill-advised penalties. He was out of position on a number of Detroit goals. A number of times, Red Wings swooped by him unscathed, which begs the question about his overall health. Still, whatever is ailing him, if anything, Niedermayer produced some magical moments for the Ducks. He scoring in overtime in Game 2 to even the series at 1 and then scored off of Nicklas Lidstrom's stick with less than a minute to go in Game 5, tying the game and setting up Selanne's overtime winner.

Pronger, of course, briefly lost his mind in Game 3, when he slammed Tomas Holmstrom head-first into the glass and was suspended for Game 4. He had only three assists in the five games he played, but was dominant for most of Game 6. His howitzer from the point might not find the mark always (his shot often suggests a new moniker for the team -- "Better duck"), but has been the genesis of many Ducks goals this season.

If Niedermayer can shake whatever it was that was nagging him in the West finals and Pronger can keep his eyes on the prize, the Ducks' chances of success go up dramatically.

4. The goslings. We like to call the Ducks' young forward group of Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry and Dustin Penner the goslings even if no one else does. Whatever you call them, if you're the Ottawa Senators, you'd better not ignore them. By the end of the Detroit series, the trio was the most dangerous unit Carlyle sent over the boards. Getzlaf, now a key part of the Ducks' top power-play unit, seemed to grow into his own against Detroit after the top line of Selanne and Andy McDonald suffered the loss of Chris Kunitz (broken hand). Kunitz was replaced by veteran Todd Marchant.

Perry still has a bit of the colt in him, a little gangly, sometimes a little out of sync, but he has grown dramatically from a season ago, when he was a raw rookie in his first NHL playoffs. Getzlaf has emerged even more quickly. Carlyle likes to joke that he doesn't like to hear too much praise for Getzlaf for fear he won't be able to get his helmet on, but most of it is well-earned. Penner struggled the most this spring, sometimes seeing his ice time reduced significantly. To be effective, Penner needs to use his size down low and in front of the net. Facing a considerable depth deficit against Ottawa, the continued production of this young group will be crucial to the Ducks' success.

5. The Captain and his crew. After years of being flayed in the court of public opinion every spring, Ottawa captain Alfredsson suddenly has been elevated to exalted status in the hockey world, especially in Ottawa. He can do no wrong, this plucky Swede. We bet he could even get Canadian politicians to stop picking on Shane Doan if he put his mind to it. Much of the adoration is well-deserved given his spirited play. Not only has he put up points (17), he also has killed penalties and made a handful of eye-popping defensive plays. Whenever the Senators have hit even the slightest wobble, Alfredsson has led by example in the next game or the next shift.

His linemates are no different. Heatley has continued to shine in the playoffs, a more complete player than many could have imagined. Spezza's maturity as these playoffs have progressed has been a revelation. Are they slowing down? Hardly. Against Buffalo, the three combined for 21 points against the NHL's best regular-season team. Heatley has registered a point in 13 of 15 postseason games, while Spezza and Alfredsson have been shut out only three times this spring. Buffalo's only win in the East finals was the only game this top line was held pointless. The Ducks' challenge is not necessarily defusing the prolific trio, but trying to ensure that they don't become difference-makers every night

• Pahlsson-Niedermayer-Moen versus Sens: The tenacious play of the Ducks' defensive line of Samuel Pahlsson, Rob Niedermayer and Travis Moen forced Detroit coach Mike Babcock to split up his dynamic duo of Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg. It worked to the Wings' advantage in Game 3, but the Ducks' defensive specialists were ultimately able to keep the Wings' top guns at bay long enough to ensure a series victory. That challenge pales in comparison to trying to shut down the Heatley-Spezza-Alfredsson trio. Watch for the Ducks' unit to try and disrupt things deep in the Ottawa zone and prevent the group from generating speed through the neutral zone.

• Ducks: Selanne has six points in his last three games, including the overtime winner in Game 5 against Detroit. Prior to that, he had gone four games without a point. McDonald has scored just once in the last nine playoff games.

• Senators: Alfredsson has 10 postseason goals, including the series-clinching overtime marker against Buffalo in Game 5. He had never scored more than seven times in any one playoff year before this season. The Senators' power play has run dry of late, going three straight games without a man-advantage marker.

Too much depth, too much "big line" and too much karma give the Senators their first Stanley Cup. Ottawa in six.

Scott Burnside is the NHL writer for ESPN.com.

Bronx33
05-26-2007, 06:02 PM
Pretty amazing number, since 2003 ottawa and the ducks have the most playoff wins of any team maybe mondays game is destiny.

Ana. . . .36
Ott. . . .31
NJ. . . . 27
TB. . . . 24
SJ. . . . 22

Bronx33
05-26-2007, 06:11 PM
Is gary bettman and the NHL desicion makers stupid? game 1 on memorial day?

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18390572&BRD=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478568&rfi=6

What gets you more in the mood to watch a hockey game than 80 degrees and sun on Memorial Day? And what better way to cap off the day that has come to signify the beginning of summer than to sit in front of the TV and watch a hockey game?

In Los Angeles.

At 5 p.m.

OK, so it's actually Anaheim. But it's still Memorial Day and the NHL will be playing the first game of its showcase series while America and maybe even most of Canada is sitting outside watching the glow of the dying embers in their charcoal grills and drinking their last holiday beer. In Anaheim, they'll be just dropping the first hamburgers on to the grill at about the same time the referee is dropping the puck.

Do you think anybody at the NHL sees any irony in the fact that its final championship series opens on the same day that swimming pools all over America open?

It will be 8 p.m. in the Eastern Time zone when the Ducks and Ottawa Senators start skating and most normal people will be soaking up the holiday weekend's last hour of sunlight.

On Tuesday, newspapers all over America will be filled with columns laughing at the putrid TV ratings for the first game of the Stanley Cup Final and talking about what an obscure, niche sport hockey has become.

The NHL deserves the terrible ratings that all of the games will get just as it deserved to have NBC drop out of overtime in a series clinching game in Buffalo in favor of 90 minutes of blather leading up to a two minute horse race.

Not only should there be no hockey being played on Memorial Day, there shouldn't be a team in Anaheim. One franchise for the Los Angeles market may be one too many. Two is overkill and overkill is what put the NHL in such an embarrassing position.

Somebody should have been skating around an arena with the Stanley Cup over his head at least two weeks ago and it should have been seen on ESPN not NOT seen on Versus.

Refusing for 10 years to enforce rules that allow the game to be great and an insistence on expanding into places where nobody knows how to spell hockey has given the NHL exactly what it deserves. It's going to take at least 10 more years to recover. It's not that hockey isn't a great sport - it may be the best team sport there is - it's that no sport could overcome a decade of that kind of stupidity and shortsightedness.

* Massachusetts senator John Kerry has been teaming up with New England Patriots linebacker Teddy Bruschi to publicize his introduction of the "Stop Stroke Act". Bruschi suffered a stroke in February 2004 and was able to come back and resume his NFL career. Kerry said, "His courage, tenacity and utter determination on the field and off are nothing short of heroic."

I wonder if Senator Kerry has ever googled this: "HGH (human growth hormone) causes stroke." Try it yourself. I'm not saying Bruschi's stroke may have been caused by HGH. I'm just sayin'....

* Indiana politicians pushed through funding $675 million for a new stadium for the Indianapolis Colts and a big part of the sales pitch was a promise - or at least a strong insinuation - that the NFL would reward the city with a Super Bowl. Indianapolis was in the running for the 2011 game but lost out to Dallas. The new $1 billion stadium there will be able to seat close to 110,000 for the game and at $600 (at least) per ticket, that's a lot more money for the NFL. You can check, but I'm pretty sure there's no plan to refund any of the $675 million to the fine citizens of Greater Indianapolis.

* Come to think of it, maybe the NHL playing hockey on the same day that the baseball season ends in Pittsburgh does make at least a little sense.

John Steigerwald is a sports anchor for KDKA-TV. His colum appears on Saturday.

chadta
05-26-2007, 07:42 PM
If it goes through, I don't think the Predators stand a chance of staying in Nashville. It's a shame that some of the local businesses in the area have offered little support to the team. They have a good fan base, but little corporate support. Whether the team ends up north of the border, it wouldn't shock me. I'd rather see a team in The Peg or back in Quebec City then another one in Ontario.

I'm hoping for the best for Nashville fans.

ok so the hockey hotbed of california can have 3 teams but we cant have 3 in ontario ? I can see how drawing from a population of 800,000 would be better then drawing from a population of almost 8 million would be better, im giving a range of 50 miles or so on this. The only downside i see to another ontario team is that the sabres would pretty well be finished.

Altho honestly, if the nhl put half the effort into saving the team in winnipeg as it did saving the penguins there would still be a team there. I can only imagine how happy the people in philly are, not only do they get to pay the penguins salaries thanks to revenue sharing, but now they get to pay for a new arena with there taxes too.

Bronx33
05-26-2007, 10:06 PM
ok so the hockey hotbed of california can have 3 teams but we cant have 3 in ontario ? I can see how drawing from a population of 800,000 would be better then drawing from a population of almost 8 million would be better, im giving a range of 50 miles or so on this. The only downside i see to another ontario team is that the sabres would pretty well be finished.

Altho honestly, if the nhl put half the effort into saving the team in winnipeg as it did saving the penguins there would still be a team there. I can only imagine how happy the people in philly are, not only do they get to pay the penguins salaries thanks to revenue sharing, but now they get to pay for a new arena with there taxes too.


What exactly did the NHL do to save the pens?

alkemical
05-27-2007, 03:53 PM
ok so the hockey hotbed of california can have 3 teams but we cant have 3 in ontario ? I can see how drawing from a population of 800,000 would be better then drawing from a population of almost 8 million would be better, im giving a range of 50 miles or so on this. The only downside i see to another ontario team is that the sabres would pretty well be finished.

Altho honestly, if the nhl put half the effort into saving the team in winnipeg as it did saving the penguins there would still be a team there. I can only imagine how happy the people in philly are, not only do they get to pay the penguins salaries thanks to revenue sharing, but now they get to pay for a new arena with there taxes too.

Get it straight - we are paying for it with gambling income - not just a tax. So if you don't gamble, you don't pay for it really. The only thing the NHL did was tell basillie that if he were going to move the pens - it was going to be more trouble than not. Not to mention the pens % for attendance, even when they sucked wasn't as bad as other teams that were better.

Bronx33
05-27-2007, 08:23 PM
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=b74022cf-8476-4930-af82-f0a033f6d67a&k=47308

DETROIT - Chris Chelios said he didn't shake hands with the Anaheim Ducks players following the Detroit Red Wings' loss Tuesday in the Western Conference final because he was so overcome with emotion he thought he was going to blackout and throw up.

The veteran defenceman initially went straight to the dressing room, but composed himself enough to come out and shake the hands of Ducks coaches before once again being overwhelmed by the feelings of illness.

"I'm the biggest believer in tradition, in having honour and showing class," Chelios said. "I'm not going to lie and say it's an apology, it's an explanation.

"In all sincerity, I couldn't keep it together the last 20 seconds of the game realizing we were going to get knocked out.

"It was almost like a blackout-type thing going to the room, coming out shaking hands with the coaches and whether you were going to get sick and throw up or start balling your eyes out."

Chelios left the rink by cab, not even waiting to meet some family members or acknowledging Steve Yzerman outside the Honda Center.

The 45-year-old Chelios said the trauma of the loss as well as with trying to deal with the emotional fallout from a double murder at one of his Detroit-area restaurants earlier this season flooded his mind in the game's dying seconds.

"The first thing I thought about a day later is trying to explain things to my sons, because I try to teach them what you're supposed to do," Chelios said.

"I mean this with all sincerity: It was no disrespect to the Ducks, no animosity towards them I couldn't control it.

"I've always tried to do the right thing for my family and the Detroit Red Wings organization. I saw (Anaheim star Teemu) Selanne's quotes and I think he understands I've been through a lot off the ice as well as on the ice.

"The last 20 seconds of that game, there was a lot of things going through my head.

"If I could go out there today and shake all their hands, I would."

Bronx33
05-27-2007, 08:41 PM
If hasek retires will they become the avs? (plenty of scoring) but no goaltender to keep em in the game.

With almost $32M already committed for next season, the Wings cannot afford to keep Lang if they plan on signing Bertuzzi. While the power forward won't make the same $5.2 million he received this past season, Bertuzzi will still pick up a base salary around the $3 million mark. The Wings want to keep Hasek and if he decides to play another season, he'll re-sign with Detroit. Chelios has already made it clear that he wants to play another year and he'll likely ink a new one-year deal shortly. As for Schneider and Markov... the team would love to keep both, but if they have to choose, they may stick with Schneider.

Bronx33
05-27-2007, 09:04 PM
Pretty cool site

http://www.timeonice.com/

Mtbrncofn
05-28-2007, 01:34 PM
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=b74022cf-8476-4930-af82-f0a033f6d67a&k=47308

DETROIT - Chris Chelios said he didn't shake hands with the Anaheim Ducks players following the Detroit Red Wings' loss Tuesday in the Western Conference final because he was so overcome with emotion he thought he was going to blackout and throw up.

The veteran defenceman initially went straight to the dressing room, but composed himself enough to come out and shake the hands of Ducks coaches before once again being overwhelmed by the feelings of illness.

"I'm the biggest believer in tradition, in having honour and showing class," Chelios said. "I'm not going to lie and say it's an apology, it's an explanation.

"In all sincerity, I couldn't keep it together the last 20 seconds of the game realizing we were going to get knocked out.

"It was almost like a blackout-type thing going to the room, coming out shaking hands with the coaches and whether you were going to get sick and throw up or start balling your eyes out."

Chelios left the rink by cab, not even waiting to meet some family members or acknowledging Steve Yzerman outside the Honda Center.

The 45-year-old Chelios said the trauma of the loss as well as with trying to deal with the emotional fallout from a double murder at one of his Detroit-area restaurants earlier this season flooded his mind in the game's dying seconds.

"The first thing I thought about a day later is trying to explain things to my sons, because I try to teach them what you're supposed to do," Chelios said.

"I mean this with all sincerity: It was no disrespect to the Ducks, no animosity towards them I couldn't control it.

"I've always tried to do the right thing for my family and the Detroit Red Wings organization. I saw (Anaheim star Teemu) Selanne's quotes and I think he understands I've been through a lot off the ice as well as on the ice.

"The last 20 seconds of that game, there was a lot of things going through my head.

"If I could go out there today and shake all their hands, I would."


Oh my gosh. What an incredible wiener.

chadta
05-28-2007, 07:54 PM
Get it straight - we are paying for it with gambling income - not just a tax. So if you don't gamble, you don't pay for it really. The only thing the NHL did was tell basillie that if he were going to move the pens - it was going to be more trouble than not. Not to mention the pens % for attendance, even when they sucked wasn't as bad as other teams that were better.


oh ok, so everybody gets to pay the salaries, but only the gamblers have to pay for the arena, thats much fairer

chadta
05-28-2007, 08:43 PM
for all interested that dont get the game on tv it can be found http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stanleycup2007/streams/

Bronx33
05-28-2007, 11:00 PM
Quacks take game one 3-2 (great game to watch btw) props to the ducks for shutting down ottawas big guns.

alkemical
05-28-2007, 11:45 PM
oh ok, so everybody gets to pay the salaries, but only the gamblers have to pay for the arena, thats much fairer

Wrong again. The state is only giving so much % of the revenue from gambling to cover the commitment towards a new arena. The rest of the cost is run from teh team with concessions, ticket price, etc.

24champ
05-29-2007, 07:33 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/0226disney1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/godkillskittenwq6.jpg

Go Senators.:thumbsup:

chadta
05-29-2007, 08:04 PM
Wrong again. The state is only giving so much % of the revenue from gambling to cover the commitment towards a new arena. The rest of the cost is run from teh team with concessions, ticket price, etc.


oh ok well thats much better, i know id be happy knowing i only paid a little bit for the arena rather then alot, gimmie a break, why should anybody outside of pittsburgh pay for the team or arena ? what do they get out of the deal NOTHING.

3 years from now nobody will go to the games again, this time you wont have the old arena excuse, or the bad salarys, i mean there is a cap and you get money from other teams so what will the excuse be then ? how many times can one team go bankrupt.

Oh and dont forget, your hero mario gave up on you, he sold the team, only the nhl kept them there, god only knows why.

Mtbrncofn
05-29-2007, 09:47 PM
Because the Pittsburgh Penguins sound like a gazillion times better than the Kansas City Penguins. Ew. Yuck.

24champ
05-29-2007, 10:39 PM
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m316/drivelikejoewho/ducksjerseyenfuego.jpg

:thumbsup:

alkemical
05-30-2007, 09:06 AM
oh ok well thats much better, i know id be happy knowing i only paid a little bit for the arena rather then alot, gimmie a break, why should anybody outside of pittsburgh pay for the team or arena ? what do they get out of the deal NOTHING.

3 years from now nobody will go to the games again, this time you wont have the old arena excuse, or the bad salarys, i mean there is a cap and you get money from other teams so what will the excuse be then ? how many times can one team go bankrupt.

Oh and dont forget, your hero mario gave up on you, he sold the team, only the nhl kept them there, god only knows why.


You mean like the state giving money to the eagles and a fat tax break for the comcast centre? Ed Rendell makes sure his PHI connections are covered.

PS - even when the pens were shiate - they still had an 80% capacity rating. Mario did have the team sold, but he's not selling now that they have an arena. But it's ok - it's obvious you hate the penguins so you act like a schmuck who likes to run off at the mouth and make an ass of 'imself. So without further adeui - please carry on.

SoCalBronco
05-30-2007, 08:44 PM
Damn..Giguere was awesome during that Ottawa 5 on 3 there.

Nuggets4
05-30-2007, 10:54 PM
OK, I'll fully admit I haven't watched a lot of hockey this season, but these last two games have been some of the best I've seen in a long time.

SoCalBronco
05-31-2007, 03:09 AM
Crosby to be youngest team captain in NHL
The Kid trades 'A' for the 'C' next year
Thursday, May 31, 2007

By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Penguins center Sidney Crosby will become the youngest captain in NHL history today.



Sidney Crosby: Making history again.
The team will formalize his appointment at a news conference at Mellon Arena.

Crosby has served as an alternate captain for most of his two seasons in pro hockey. He shared those duties with Mark Recchi, Sergei Gonchar and, before he severed ties to the team, John LeClair the past season.

Crosby, who will not turn 20 until Aug. 8, became the youngest scoring champion in league history in 2006-07, when he put up 120 points.

Vincent Lecavalier, who succeeded Chris Gratton as captain of Tampa Bay when Gratton was traded late in the 1999-2000 season, is the NHL's youngest captain to date but was about a month older than Crosby is when he inherited the "C."

Neither Crosby nor team officials could be reached for comment, but moving him into the captaincy for 2007-08 is an idea that has received almost universal support, inside and outside the organization, for many months.

The Penguins have not had a captain since a heart ailment forced Mario Lemieux to retire during the 2005-06 season.

Crosby will be the 12th captain in franchise history. The others are Ab McDonald, Ron Schock, Jean Pronovost, Orest Kindrachuk, Randy Carlyle, Mike Bullard, Terry Ruskowski, Dan Frawley, Lemieux, Ron Francis and Jaromir Jagr.

http://www.pittsburghpost-gazette.com/pg/07151/790422-61.stm

Al Wilson
05-31-2007, 01:33 PM
Wow, Ducks are a very physical team. But the Sens have too much character to let this series go.

alkemical
05-31-2007, 01:46 PM
Wow, Ducks are a very physical team. But the Sens have too much character to let this series go.

hehehe - you sound like a BUF fan.... ;)

Pezman
05-31-2007, 03:29 PM
Gotta say, I wasnt exactly stunned when the idiots booed the Canadian national anthem during game one, but my disgust came when the fools wouldnt shut the f*** up during the moment of silence on Memorial Day of all days... bunch of classless idiots.
That being said, the noise inside the building for the past two games was damn intense. Even if this series is getting just a blip for ratings on TV, its been highly entertaining to see.

JSG has been impressive and that physical presence they put on the Sens has been a bit of a stunner. I'd be shocked if Ottawa was swept though. If it werent for incredible goaltending, this series would already be a foregone conclusion.

Calijohn, you secure tix for game 5?

broncocalijohn
05-31-2007, 03:39 PM
Gotta say, I wasnt exactly stunned when the idiots booed the Canadian national anthem during game one, but my disgust came when the fools wouldnt shut the **** up during the moment of silence on Memorial Day of all days... bunch of classless idiots.
That being said, the noise inside the building for the past two games was damn intense. Even if this series is getting just a blip for ratings on TV, its been highly entertaining to see.

JSG has been impressive and that physical presence they put on the Sens has been a bit of a stunner. I'd be shocked if Ottawa was swept though. If it werent for incredible goaltending, this series would already be a foregone conclusion.

Calijohn, you secure tix for game 5?


I wasnt around for game one and got into the game late on game 2 so i wouldnt know but if someone is booing the Anthem with 75% of the team Canadian, then I can say that those are your Johnny come lately fans that dont know sheat about the origins of Hockey or where there players live. I have season seats so i do have game 5.

Pezman
05-31-2007, 03:45 PM
Yeah, kept thinking to myself, these types of games bring out the kooks no matter what arena it is... still, you think they'd show more respect for the freaking moment of silence. Lamers suck.

You get stuck on the 57 traffic nightmare getting to game 2 as well? Ack!
If it goes 7 games, I'll have duckets for it, but I didnt secure anything for game 5. I imagine it will be nuts there if the Ducks can close it out at home in game 5 though.

All this hype makes me miss being in Colorado for a Stanley Cup run... That was the most exciting times man. The whole state was buzzing. Good times... good times.

24champ
05-31-2007, 05:14 PM
I wasnt around for game one and got into the game late on game 2 so i wouldnt know but if someone is booing the Anthem with 75% of the team Canadian, then I can say that those are your Johnny come lately fans that dont know sheat about the origins of Hockey or where there players live. I have season seats so i do have game 5.

that pretty much describes the Ducks fanbase.

broncocalijohn
05-31-2007, 05:29 PM
Champ, at least our fans are still around for the playoffs. Dont ever compare the season ticket base to those yahoos. I did get a pix of Snoop entering the arena. I think he was the only black guy in the building.

24champ
05-31-2007, 06:02 PM
Champ, at least our fans are still around for the playoffs. Dont ever compare the season ticket base to those yahoos. I did get a pix of Snoop entering the arena. I think he was the only black guy in the building.

Come on man, I went to a Ducks game 2 weeks ago when they played the Dead Things and some guy in front of me in a McDonald or Perry jersey was asking why all the players have beards! I looked at my freind (Quack fan) and went "are you ****ing serious?"


Yeah I saw Snoop, ****ing traitor.

24champ
05-31-2007, 07:00 PM
Predators Moving to Hamilton, Canada. Deal is in place per TSN.


The Hamilton Spectator reports that the City of Hamilton has re-activated an agreement with Waterloo billionaire Jim Balsillie, giving him exclusive rights to bring an NHL team to Copps Coliseum.

The news comes just one week after Balsillie, co-CEO of BlackBerry innovator Research In Motion, agreed to buy the NHL's Nashville Predators last week for US$220 million.

According to The Spectator, Balsillie approached the city late last week through Toronto lawyer Richard Rodier which led to several behind-the-scenes discussions with Hamilton Mayor Fred Eisenberger.

"He has assured me that he wants to secure a team and he is interested in bringing it to Hamilton," Eisenberger told The Spectator. "Certainly he has the resources to do it and we will leave it up to him to pull it together."

The paper adds that the city is also negotiating to give Balsillie the right to run Hamilton Place and the Convention Centre if he brings in an NHL team franchise.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=209447&hubname=



Those predator fans must feel like crap, really hate to see a team move but at least it is back in Canada.

Al Wilson
05-31-2007, 10:21 PM
some guy in front of me in a McDonald or Perry jersey was asking why all the players have beards! I looked at my freind (Quack fan) and went "are you ****ing serious?"

LOL

chadta
05-31-2007, 10:49 PM
You mean like the state giving money to the eagles and a fat tax break for the comcast centre? Ed Rendell makes sure his PHI connections are covered.

PS - even when the pens were shiate - they still had an 80% capacity rating. Mario did have the team sold, but he's not selling now that they have an arena. But it's ok - it's obvious you hate the penguins so you act like a schmuck who likes to run off at the mouth and make an ass of 'imself. So without further adeui - please carry on.

well why shouldnt he, philly is the 6th largest city in the US, and pittsburgh is nothing, sorry majority rules, this is a democracy isnt it ? as for your comments about being 80% capacity ? wtf are you talking about you were dead last the year before the lockout averaging like 11,000 fans a game. Like i said third times a charm, and the third bankruptcy of the penguins will be the last one. And yes i do hate the penguins, it may have to do with the fact that they beat the flyers 8 times this year, now if you keep that up for the next 13 years you should almost even the overall record between the teams.


And as for the post about the preds moving to hamilton, it is far from a done deal, read the actual article, all balsille did was reaquire the rights to put a team in cops, meaning that nobody else can, it dosnet mean he will tho. Buttman may still come up and save the preds like he did the pens.

alkemical
05-31-2007, 11:41 PM
well why shouldnt he, philly is the 6th largest city in the US, and pittsburgh is nothing, sorry majority rules, this is a democracy isnt it ? as for your comments about being 80% capacity ? wtf are you talking about you were dead last the year before the lockout averaging like 11,000 fans a game. Like i said third times a charm, and the third bankruptcy of the penguins will be the last one. And yes i do hate the penguins, it may have to do with the fact that they beat the flyers 8 times this year, now if you keep that up for the next 13 years you should almost even the overall record between the teams.


And as for the post about the preds moving to hamilton, it is far from a done deal, read the actual article, all balsille did was reaquire the rights to put a team in cops, meaning that nobody else can, it dosnet mean he will tho. Buttman may still come up and save the preds like he did the pens.

Yeah they have a 14k capacity arena, they have 11k show up - that's 78% - Ahem. Here's a mint, you've been talkin so much **** you got halitosis.

So you got a stick in your ass cuz the flyers suck. Get used to it, for now and ever - PHILLY CURSE. City gets what it deserves, and that's to have it's heart ripped out over and over again.

In tribute to Mock - STFU Dimwit - go buy a vowel.

bronco militia
06-01-2007, 10:21 AM
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/archives/drew06017.gif

Al Wilson
06-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Yeah they have a 14k capacity arena, they have 11k show up - that's 78% - Ahem. Here's a mint, you've been talkin so much **** you got halitosis.

So you got a stick in your ass cuz the flyers suck. Get used to it, for now and ever - PHILLY CURSE. City gets what it deserves, and that's to have it's heart ripped out over and over again.

In tribute to Mock - STFU Dimwit - go buy a vowel.
Why so offensive? He is right you know. 11,000 is pathetic when you got Crosby playing too.

alkemical
06-01-2007, 12:27 PM
Why so offensive? He is right you know. 11,000 is pathetic when you got Crosby playing too.

Man reading comprehension must be at an all time low.

He wasn't talking about when crosby was playing - he was talking about the span of time when there was no mario, jagr, kovalev, lang, francis, etc - when they sold the whole team off for cash & kris beech. When Ryan malone & Dick Tarnstrom were the leading scorers for the team. Yes, when they won like 11 games - they still had about an 80% fill rate. WITH NOBODIES they still got an 80% fill rate.

Now with crosby playing, etc - they had great attendance. But of course you Pens haters don't see facts.

So again in honor of Mock - until you get the facts straight -

STFU Dimwit - go buy a vowel 8ui0-q38u032;

bronco militia
06-01-2007, 03:32 PM
Stanley Cup finals ratings down 22 percent from last year

NEW YORK -- The Stanley Cup finals lost nearly a quarter of what already was a small television audience. Anaheim's 1-0 victory over Ottawa in Game 2 on Wednesday night got a 0.6 cable rating on Versus and was watched in 446,000 homes in the United States.

The rating was down 33 percent from last year's second game, a 5-0 victory for Carolina over Edmonton, which received a 0.9 cable rating (600,000 homes) on OLN, as the same network was known then.

Through two games, the Stanley Cup finals averaged a 0.7 rating, down 22 percent from last year's 0.9, and households are down 20 percent, to 485,000 from 606,000 last year.

The remainder of the series will be broadcast by NBC, starting with Game 3 at Ottawa on Saturday night.

alkemical
06-01-2007, 03:37 PM
Can we say that versus and the way they show hockey on TV makes it unwatchable?

bronco militia
06-01-2007, 03:45 PM
Can we say that versus and the way they show hockey on TV makes it unwatchable?

who cares, when you think about it....despite the ratings and the fans b****ing about the scheduling, ownership is happy about everything since the lockout.

alkemical
06-01-2007, 03:53 PM
who cares, when you think about it....despite the ratings and the fans b****ing about the scheduling, ownership is happy about everything since the lockout.


I don't nec. agree with that. They will want a larger tv contract.

bronco militia
06-01-2007, 03:56 PM
I don't nec. agree with that. They will want a larger tv contract.

sure they would...but hockey gets most of it's revenue from ticket sales.

broncocalijohn
06-01-2007, 04:02 PM
Versus saved NHL when nobody wanted it. I personally think Versus does a great job with its studio show compared to Brett Hull and his negativity on the Ducks. Those guys know hockey and their insight is great IMO.
NBC will get the ratings up but what do they expect when they have some Canadian team playing the much traditional hockey club of the Ducks? I mean, a team from Canada just isnt going to cut it. They needed a fresh team like the Tampa Bay or the Panthers. (Look up sarcasm )

broncocalijohn
06-01-2007, 04:19 PM
Bronx33 article.....

The average regular-season Red Wings ticket cost $43.13, according to Team Marketing Report, but the cheapest first-round playoff ticket was $63 and the top was $144. That increased with each round and topped out at $225 for the conference finals. The Pistons sold 1,000 tickets for the first round at $12 each and their lowest price for the conference finals is $24.

My first round tickets were $22, round 2 $31, round 3 $39 and Finals are $48. I thought prices were set by what you paid for each season ticket. My finals ticket is cheaper than their first round tickets. I remember when the Rockies were the hot item and the Avs came to town and won the Cup. Got a call from the Broncos that my "long" 9 month wait on the waiting list was over. Detroit needs to watch out because this can happen with the upsurge of the Tigers and the consistent play of the Pistons. Add bad economy in Detroit and RWs might be in trouble.
24ChampBailey, I hate cats so let us hope the Ducks continue to embarass the Kings and their fans! Maybe this is why Mock hasnt been around. After game one, Beezer was taken by the Almighty.

alkemical
06-01-2007, 04:28 PM
sure they would...but hockey gets most of it's revenue from ticket sales.

Duh - any sport does - but if you talking about greed via the owners - they will want a bigger tv deal - so they will eventually break on it.

bronco militia
06-01-2007, 04:47 PM
Duh - any sport does - but if you talking about greed via the owners - they will want a bigger tv deal - so they will eventually break on it.

not the NFL..

"Approximately 60 percent of the revenues of the average NFL club today come from the joint presentation of NFL games on national television networks. These revenues are shared equally among all clubs without regard to any club’s market size or revenue potential

http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/CBA/12-14cba.htm

on the other hand, 75% of the NHL revenuie is generated fro mticket sales....no link, but it's a number that was thrown around before the lockout

24champ
06-01-2007, 05:41 PM
Can we say that versus and the way they show hockey on TV makes it unwatchable?

Put it back on ESPN and get the NHL2nite show back on air.

bronco militia
06-01-2007, 05:43 PM
Put it back on ESPN and get the NHL2nite show back on air.

I'd love that too, but ESPN draws higher ratings from the WNBA and poker

Al Wilson
06-02-2007, 02:55 AM
I'd love that too, but ESPN draws higher ratings from the WNBA and poker
If Bettman was smart, and would want hockey to expand, he would've agreed with ESPN. Seriously, who the **** watches versus?

SoCalBronco
06-02-2007, 03:00 AM
If Bettman was smart, and would want hockey to expand, he would've agreed with ESPN. Seriously, who the **** watches versus?

Well..in all fairness, it seems that ESPN did lowball the league with their offer and TV revenues are an important part of the financial stability of the NHL it would appear.

I do miss ESPN's coverage though, and I LOVED the ESPN hockey intro music.

chadta
06-02-2007, 07:56 AM
Yeah they have a 14k capacity arena, they have 11k show up - that's 78% - Ahem.

http://www.mellonarena.com/arena/ana_history.asp

7th paragraph, "While the original capacity of the Mellon Arena was 10,500, these and other renovations over the past three decades have increased that number to over 17,000."

once again im sorry, i didnt realize you knew more about the arena then the arena people themselves, looks more like 64% to me, but keep living in your dream world. Oh wait you guys use the jacksonville tarp over the seats so they dont really exist trick dont ya ?

but just for ****s and giggles, if your team has such die hard fans, why has the team been bankrupt twice ?

alkemical
06-02-2007, 11:44 AM
http://www.mellonarena.com/arena/ana_history.asp

7th paragraph, "While the original capacity of the Mellon Arena was 10,500, these and other renovations over the past three decades have increased that number to over 17,000."

once again im sorry, i didnt realize you knew more about the arena then the arena people themselves, looks more like 64% to me, but keep living in your dream world. Oh wait you guys use the jacksonville tarp over the seats so they dont really exist trick dont ya ?

but just for ****s and giggles, if your team has such die hard fans, why has the team been bankrupt twice ?


Bad financial decisions by ownership pre-mario - like the outragous lease for the mellon.

It's ok - you are a ****tard -so have a good day while you dream of crosby kicking the flyers ass all the time. He's a flyer killer!!!!

24champ
06-03-2007, 12:37 AM
Senators win game 3 and Pronger has a good chance of getting suspended again...

chadta
06-03-2007, 08:25 AM
In this interview today, Forsberg said that he's only considering four teams for next season. If he plays in Europe, it'll be Modo (of course) and if he elects to continue his NHL career, he's only interested in returning to Colorado, Philadelphia or Nashville and doesn't see himself considering other offers if they come.

He also says he plans to take his time. Earlier in the week, he said on a tv interview it will not be a money decision at all-- whatever and whenever he chooses, he'll work within the teams' budget to come up with something both sides can agree to.

http://aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,1085098,00.html

Mtbrncofn
06-03-2007, 01:09 PM
Of course he'll take his time. He thrives on this whole torture the fans business.

24champ
06-03-2007, 02:15 PM
Rumor is that Pronger is suspended for game 4.

Edit:

OTTAWA -- Anaheim Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger has been suspended for Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final for a blow to the head of Ottawa Senators center Dean McAmmond Saturday night.

The incident occurred at 2:01 of the third period. No penalty was assessed.

“A variety of factors were considered in reaching this decision," said NHL Senior Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell. "Mr. Pronger used his forearm to deliver a forceful hit to the head of his opponent. Also, his actions caused injury to his opponent."

Pronger also was suspended previously for delivering a blow to the head of Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom in the Western Conference Final.

Pronger will be eligible to return for Game 5, Wednesday at Anaheim.



WEAK! Should be two games min. for a repeat offense.

SoCalBronco
06-03-2007, 02:33 PM
WEAK! Should be two games min. for a repeat offense.

:homer:

24champ
06-03-2007, 02:38 PM
:homer:

Any other repeat offender would get at least two games. What a joke.

"This one took a lot of thought," Colin Campbell, the NHL's executive vice-president and director of hockey operations, said at a news conference.

There's the problem. Thinking & Campbell is like oil & water...

Man-Goblin
06-03-2007, 10:37 PM
Has anyone noticed the prime coverage ESPN has been giving the finals on their home page since the finals started? I have no inside information or anything, but the pattern seems to suggest that they are going to be picking up the NHL on some level next year. This would be a GREAT thing.

Has anyone heard anything about this? I just find it very hard to believe that they would be pimping it so hard, even on SportsCenter, and not have something in the works.

Al Wilson
06-03-2007, 11:23 PM
Any other repeat offender would get at least two games. What a joke.

"This one took a lot of thought," Colin Campbell, the NHL's executive vice-president and director of hockey operations, said at a news conference.

There's the problem. Thinking & Campbell is like oil & water...
It's a cup final. That 2 game suspension **** don't happen unless David Stern is in the NHL.

24champ
06-03-2007, 11:36 PM
It's a cup final. That 2 game suspension **** don't happen unless David Stern is in the NHL.

In one breath the NHL is saying they are cracking down hard on crap like Pronger pulled last night, and another breath the NHL is saying, hey look its the Stanley Cup finals and poor pronger, we shouldn't deprive this guy of his chance to play for the cup. Nevermind that 4 games earlier he pulled the same BS. It's no wonder the league is a joke.

broncocalijohn
06-04-2007, 05:36 AM
I must agree on the dirty hit. As discussed b4 on his height advantage on the boarding call, he knows the elbow/checking is at a face/neck level. In SC, he would need to pull a Bertuzzi to get more than a one gamer.

SoCalBronco
06-04-2007, 10:10 PM
One of the Ducks needs to punch "Alfie" right in the throat in the third period.

What a thug.

Defend your boy, Al Wilson.

He's going to get put on the IR in the third period.

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2007, 10:17 PM
Jabba The Hull saying that guys shouldn't be allowed to wear visors unless they've had a serious eye injury in the past. Hey moron, visors are there to prevent serious eye injuries from happening in the first place.

Ask your former teammate if he wishes he'd had a shield on when this happened, jackass.

24champ
06-04-2007, 10:23 PM
One of the Ducks needs to punch "Alfie" right in the throat in the third period.

What a thug.

Defend your boy, Al Wilson.

He's going to get put on the IR in the third period.

:homer:

SoCalBronco
06-04-2007, 10:24 PM
:homer:

I don't care for either team....you know that.

Pezman
06-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Quack quack, congrats on taking a commanding 3-1 lead Calijohn. I'm sure you're stoked to see that game 5 big time.

On the flipside...Now I get to watch the bandwagoners here really pour it on. Horror!

SoCalBronco
06-04-2007, 11:26 PM
Quack quack, congrats on taking a commanding 3-1 lead Calijohn. I'm sure you're stoked to see that game 5 big time.

On the flipside...Now I get to watch the bandwagoners here really pour it on. Horror!


Haha..thats right bro, everyone and their mom are going to be claiming to be hardcore Ducks fans now.

Jens1893
06-04-2007, 11:39 PM
Haha..thats right bro, everyone and their mom are going to be claiming to be hardcore Ducks fans now.

Go Ducks! ;)

24champ
06-05-2007, 12:07 AM
Senators gave up and coasted after that first period. To beat the Ducks you need to keep the pressure on them. Much like the Red Wings series the Senators missed an opportunity to strike a blow with Pronger out. This hurts to see the Ducks hoist the cup before my Kings. It would be the equivalent of seeing the KC Chiefs hoisting the Lombardi trophy in the 90s instead of our Broncos.

broncocalijohn
06-05-2007, 03:02 AM
I have noticed that my tickets have almost doubled in price for game 5! They can choke so I can do it again in game 7 and Pezzy can see in person. I think i am gonna sell one ticket and go and plop my A$$ in the good seats. With my upgrade for next year, this couldnt come at a better time and bring on the bandwagon. I need to sell the other 2 tickets for next year? Anyone else going to the game? Where is that johnny come lately Mini Bronco from OC?

Mtbrncofn
06-05-2007, 04:18 PM
Geez. Did everyone hear that wiener, Brian Burke whining about the hit his player received and how it was the worst one out there. :nono:

I sure hope the Sens can pull this out because I forgot how much I can't stand that waste of skin, Burke til I saw that.

broncocalijohn
06-05-2007, 05:35 PM
Geez. Did everyone hear that wiener, Brian Burke whining about the hit his player received and how it was the worst one out there. :nono:

I sure hope the Sens can pull this out because I forgot how much I can't stand that waste of skin, Burke til I saw that.

Hope to make your day miserable come Wednesday night.

chadta
06-05-2007, 11:54 PM
Geez. Did everyone hear that wiener, Brian Burke whining about the hit his player received and how it was the worst one out there. :nono:

I sure hope the Sens can pull this out because I forgot how much I can't stand that waste of skin, Burke til I saw that.

your kidding right ? the sens go crying to bettman and the refs before the series even started, "they get to close to goalies, dont let them touch our goalie" waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa, and burke is a wiener ? god the sens cryin is why i hate them so much.

Mtbrncofn
06-06-2007, 12:30 AM
You haven't had to deal with that ass, Burke in your conference, no less division forever. You have the same hate, just under different circumstances. I'd feel differently if I was you too.

Yes, Brian Burke is the ultimate wiener.

broncocalijohn
06-06-2007, 02:07 AM
You haven't had to deal with that ass, Burke in your conference, no less division forever. You have the same hate, just under different circumstances. I'd feel differently if I was you too.

Yes, Brian Burke is the ultimate winner.


I fixed it for you.

Hercules Rockefeller
06-06-2007, 08:42 AM
The Isles bought out Yashin

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/ny-spisles0606,0,2979334.story?coll=ny-main-bigpix

Clockwork Orange
06-06-2007, 06:28 PM
The Isles bought out Yashin

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/ny-spisles0606,0,2979334.story?coll=ny-main-bigpix

That's the end of an error.

The Isles have made some boneheaded moves (many boneheaded moves), but trading Spezza & Chara for that mope and then handing him a contract worth nearly $90 million is at the very top of that list.

Now they've got $2.2 million in dead money for the next eight years to remind them of him. Funny thing, by the time they get out from under that dead money, Rick Dipietro will still have six years left on his contract.

Jori
06-06-2007, 06:43 PM
Dumping Yashin was a move that had to be made. The mistake was not buying him out during the summer of 2005 when they would have avoided the cap hit.

On the "I hope Francois Giguere Doesn't Sign" list....Yashin #1...Souray #2.

Clockwork Orange
06-06-2007, 07:12 PM
Dumping Yashin was a move that had to be made. The mistake was not buying him out during the summer of 2005 when they would have avoided the cap hit.

On the "I hope Francois Giguere Doesn't Sign" list....Yashin #1...Souray #2.

I'm mixed on Souray. His defensive shortcomings are worrisome (I have mild Sandis Ozolinsh flashbacks when I think about him sometimes) but his cannon from the point would be a welcome addition. I'd probably pass on him just because of the inflated market for UFA defensemen. If you're going to overpay (which you will with just about anyone in free agency), make sure you're getting the goods.

I've loathed Yashin since his days as a habitual holdout in Ottawa, so naturally I want no part of him.

Mtbrncofn
06-06-2007, 07:36 PM
I fixed it for you.

That's just sickening.

Pezman
06-06-2007, 07:48 PM
Somewhere in Ottawa, there is some degree of celebration after watching Yashin fall from grace. Suppose now he gets dumped by his supermodel woman and its the perfect ending for him Ha!

24champ
06-06-2007, 09:49 PM
NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly confirmed that the league has been in discussions with powerful film and television producer Jerry Bruckheimer about owning a franchise in Las Vegas, amid growing speculation that the NHL is on the verge of proposing expansion to Las Vegas and K.C. A group led by Bruckheimer, an avid hockey fan, is the front-runner for the Las Vegas expansion and has been in talks with NHL officials for months, sources said. Additionally, Bruckheimer has had discussions with AEG officials about that group potentially building and/or operating an NHL arena in Las Vegas. AEG President & CEO Tim Leiweke would not comment on that, but said in a statement, "Jerry is like a brother. I will be there to support him anywhere he wants to go." Bruckheimer is said to be the leader of a group of entertainment execs, including MGM Studios Chair & CEO Harry Evans Sloan, who want to own the Las Vegas team. Neither Paul Bloch, Bruckheimer's publicist, nor MGM spokesperson Jeff Pryor would comment.[

DALY: Daly, asked to confirm or deny whether the NHL had discussions with Bruckheimer about owning an NHL team in Las Vegas, said in an e-mail, "Bruckheimer is one of many people we have spoken to about their desire to own a team in Vegas." Daly added that "no decisions have been made" by the NHL BOG about expanding the league from 30 to 32 teams and that "there's no 'agreement' with anyone" to own an expansion team. But he said, "There have been many expressions of interest by a number of individuals and a number of cities," including Las Vegas and K.C., where AEG manages the city-owned Sprint Center, set to open in October. At the Stanley Cup Finals Game Four in Ottawa on Monday, there was a buzz that an announcement about the league considering expansion to Las Vegas and K.C. was imminent, hockey sources said. Asked about that, Daly wrote, "I don't know if or when there might be an announcement. We will update the Board on the expressions of interest we have received."

A HOCKEY GUY: There has been speculation for more than a year that Bruckheimer, producer of dozens of films and television shows, including the "CSI" series and spinoffs and the "Pirates of the Caribbean" films, has wanted to own an NHL franchise, and he was said to have been interested in buying the Penguins. Since October '06, when Bruckheimer attended a dinner at Staples Center with Leiweke and NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman, media outlets have reported the producer has been talking to the league about how to better market the game. However, sources said that the primary purpose of the meetings was to discuss Bruckheimer owning an NHL team in Las Vegas.

VEGAS ARENA: One sports facilities source closely tied to AEG said that the firm has a "standing offer" to Bruckheimer that AEG would develop, operate and possibly own the building in Las Vegas. Bill Rhoda, a consultant for CSL Int'l, which is managing the process for the city to select an arena developer, said AEG was one of seven developer-led teams that submitted letters of intent last Thursday to build a new downtown arena (AEG co-owns an arena developer, Tim Romani's Icon Venue Group). The others:

* Real Estate Interests, with urban planner RTKL.
* Raul Walters Properties, with architect HNTB and sports executive Kiki Vandeweghe.
* Star Development, with architect Ellerbe Becket.
* Postolos Group, led by former Rockets President George Postolos.
* Medallion Financial Corp., led by Andrew Murstein, who tried to buy the Penguins with Mark Cuban and Dan Marino in '06.
* Las Vegas Land Partners.

Others attending the May 14 pre-proposal conference in Vegas included officials from general contractors Hunt and Turner and architects HKS, EwingCole and David M. Schwarz.

TIMING: The season when a team would start play isn't known, but the MGM Grand Garden Arena, which has played host to L.A. Kings preseason games, could be available as an interim home if a new arena has not been completed. Vegas' biggest arena, the Thomas & Mack Center, does not have an ice sheet.



http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/index.cfm?storyid=SBD2007060613&requesttimeout=500&fuseaction=sbd.main

Clockwork Orange
06-06-2007, 11:12 PM
If they expand the NHL any further, Bettman will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that his goal is to kill the league. There are already too many teams as it is and they want to add more? Good lord. :nono:

If they want to move an existing franchise to Vegas, I'm all for it. Further expansion and further watering down of the talent pool is idiotic.

Pezman
06-06-2007, 11:33 PM
Har har! I got a text from a buddy after the Ducks won tonight that summarized it all...

...Kings fans on suicide watch... Ha!

24Champ you doing ok there lil buddy?
So, can we now focus on the Avs 2007-08 cup run now? ;D

alkemical
06-06-2007, 11:40 PM
pfffffft - Mr. Crosby's name will be on the cup next year.

24champ
06-06-2007, 11:44 PM
...Kings fans on suicide watch... Ha!

24Champ you doing ok there lil buddy?


Drinking the Kool-aid as we speak...Jonestown part deux.

Mtbrncofn
06-06-2007, 11:48 PM
Huh, that was disappointing. Oh well, congrats bcj.

Mtbrncofn
06-06-2007, 11:49 PM
If they expand the NHL any further, Bettman will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that his goal is to kill the league. There are already too many teams as it is and they want to add more? Good lord. :nono:

If they want to move an existing franchise to Vegas, I'm all for it. Further expansion and further watering down of the talent pool is idiotic.

I am with you 100%. Actually, I am still in favor of some contracting.

SoCalBronco
06-06-2007, 11:59 PM
Congrats John. :)