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Nuggets4
11-30-2006, 11:05 AM
Beware the penguins

Doo be doo be doo...

http://www.chuckthomas.com/pencostr.jpg

alkemical
11-30-2006, 11:35 AM
lol -

my team has some weakness that i won't deny - and crosby is figuring out how to own the game. Once malkin gets that down - we will be a bit more dangerous.

24champ
12-01-2006, 01:42 AM
5,140 at the St. Louis game tonight...In all fairness it was 30 degrees with rain, sleet and snow flurries. Not exactly the weather you want to pile the family into the car and drive to downtown in but still must be crappy to play in front of a crowd like that in the NHL.

24champ
12-01-2006, 01:48 AM
This is funny but who says good luck before a fight?:giggle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNUTSTRnz8

broncocalijohn
12-01-2006, 04:10 AM
Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots
Getzlap again with winning goal.

broncocalijohn
12-01-2006, 04:15 AM
This is funny but who says good luck before a fight?:giggle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNUTSTRnz8

I think that was a way of saying, " we're brawling!" BTW: What is up with losing to Phoenix last two times. I thought they were the worst in our division. I guess i was wrong.

24champ
12-01-2006, 01:29 PM
I think that was a way of saying, " we're brawling!" BTW: What is up with losing to Phoenix last two times. I thought they were the worst in our division. I guess i was wrong.
Were like Jerkyll and Hyde right now, we just beat the Devils and should have won our third straight game but...
I tell you what's wrong....Cloutier. Hate to say it but Bronx33 was right but I was hoping he would pan out. Now we have serious goalie problems and Garon is injured which means beachball will start a few games, we just called up Brust from the AHL and NOT Labarbera because of the re-entry waivers. I do like what Im seeing from the kids though this year ala Frolov, Brown, Cammalleri, and Kopitar. I suspect we will get more prospects at the trading deadline and we have Boyle and Jack Johnson for the future, I should reiterate that there is NO expectations from the Kings this year.

alkemical
12-01-2006, 01:33 PM
Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots
Getzlap again with winning goal.

I don't think the pens can beat the sens or sabers come playoff time. But beyond that i don't think there is a team in the east my pens couldn't give a headache to.

now they need some more help on W and on the blueline - but really - we don't have as complete a team as alot of other teams. We are relying on 'star power'.

Guys like Eaton (FU Cheechoooooo, i guess this is karma for eric cole) - D. Moore, etc - have really helped - but next year, year after is when the pens make some noise.

Malkin will not be a rook, and neither will Staal - if we can upgrade a few W positions and a few D holes, the pens are a cup contender IMO.

Bronx33
12-01-2006, 04:57 PM
http://myspace-077.vo.llnwd.net/01502/77/03/1502903077_l.jpg


Guess who this is...

Pendejo
12-01-2006, 06:33 PM
Guess who this is...

Artie Lange?

Bronx33
12-01-2006, 06:48 PM
Artie Lange?


Close but no....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Artie_Shirtless.jpg/220px-Artie_Shirtless.jpg

Bronx33
12-01-2006, 08:16 PM
To tell ya the truth i totally forgot about this....


http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Hockey/2006/12/01/2576096-sun.html

A year of whispering, waiting and speculation is about to get very noisy and troubling for Rick Tocchet.

The twisted walls of justice are closing in on him with the prognosis for his future being anything but encouraging.

Tocchet is all but certain to be hauled before a New Jersey grand jury, with his alleged partners in a major league gambling ring ready to sing a tune on him he doesn't want to hear.

Three men were charged last February with taking in more than 1,000 wagers totalling $1.7 million US on professional sporting events over a six-week period culminating with this year's Super Bowl game.

Two of the men have now cut deals -- and part of their plea agreements have come with the clear understanding they will point their fingers squarely at the celebrity name who remains on leave and supposedly under investigation by the National Hockey League.

The state trooper, James Harney, has already agreed to do seven years in prison for his part in the gambling ring. He will testify against Tocchet.

The third man charged, James Ulmer, will plead guilty today in a New Jersey court and part of his agreement he will spend upwards of one year behind bars. He will turn evidence on Tocchet.

That leaves the former hockey star from Scarborough in the unfortunate position of last man standing.

"It's bad news, the question is how bad is it?" legal analyst Rob Becker told Prime Time Sports on the Fan590 last night. "You have to wonder what happens next...

I wouldn't want to be Rick Tocchet."

If the dirty cop Harney has agreed to a sentence as lengthy as seven years, the question is, what offer, if any, awaits Tocchet? And how much time will he be looked upon to serve if he is found guilty for money laundering or any of the other crimes he is charged with.

"This isn't good for him (Tocchet)," Becker said. "It looks like they're going after the famous guy."

Or in the case of basically any hockey player in the United States not named Gretzky, the almost famous guy. And in this case, identified as the Gretzky associate, working for The Great One in Phoenix, allegedly handling bets from Mrs. Great One.

This can't be considered good news of any kind for the NHL, which is apparently are investigated Tocchet themselves but have never progressed very far, choosing to stay away from interfering with the legal process.

But the name Gretzky is certain to come up if this case does proceed to grand jury as expected. In fact, Janet Gretzky, according to New Jersey authorities, will be subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury if the case goes that far.

Names undoubtedly will be named. Names we know. Who booked the bets? Who placed the bets? What sport was bet on? What amounts?

A little black book of dirty little secrets is almost certain to be revealed before an audience that won't be tantalized by the exposure that most Canadian hockey watchers will.

The first real target of the investigation was Harney, the former State Trooper. But when he cooperated and agreed to seven years and Ulmer cooperated and will agree today to his plea, that pushed the apparently uncooperative Tocchet into a place with little room for negotiation.

Assuming the case proceeds as anticipated, this could end up as lose-lose situation for the former assistant coach, for the league, for anyone who happens to be named under oath. After the original charges were laid just prior to the Olympic Games in Turin, newspaper leaks and speculation was rampant, seemingly poisoning the State's case. Then everything went silent: Nobody said anything for months. Some speculated the case against Tocchet would be dropped. Some believed that because the State hadn't gone forward against Tocchet, it had no clear cut evidence.

That doesn't seem possible anymore.

"You have to wonder," Becker said, "what happens next."

SoCalBronco
12-02-2006, 02:20 PM
from Eklund

With Leopold Back....

Today @ 12:54 PM ET | Comments (25)

Everyone is speculating that the Avs will move a d-man...I am hearing that it may not be who everyone is speculating about...from my souces, I am hearing that the Avs feel they are still very much in this thing and are looking to get something substantial. Moving a Klee will not bring you a top two line forward. Liles will. Remember this is the team that moved a top guy Tanguay to get Leopold.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-02-2006, 02:31 PM
Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots
Getzlap again with winning goal.

Why would the Caps be worried about the Pens? The majority of Caps fans don't care what happen's in their 2nd year of rebuilding.

Clockwork Orange
12-02-2006, 08:29 PM
Ovechkin strips Afinogenov, makes the defenseman look silly as he blows past him and scores. Just an amazing individual effort from coast to coast.

Add that one to the highlight reel.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-02-2006, 08:47 PM
Miller got pulled after that. 4-1 Caps now, still in the 1st.

Clockwork Orange
12-02-2006, 09:22 PM
Wow, Ovechkin tossed for boarding after a nasty hit from behind on Briere.

Hercules Rockefeller
12-02-2006, 10:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lnw3bou2NA

Video of the hit. Ovechkin was not going full speed when he hit Briere.

Mtbrncofn
12-03-2006, 01:05 AM
Wow. The Sabres were pretty pissed, I'd say.

Did anyone else happen to notice when they showed the scrum behind the net, someone tried to kick the guy that was down on the ice? That can't be good.

theAPAOps5
12-03-2006, 01:09 AM
Why did Theodore get pulled after the 1st period tonight. I was flipping between the Nugs, the football games, and the Avs and never heard why.

Mtbrncofn
12-03-2006, 01:12 AM
Ok, I looked again. Maybe he was just losing his footing.

Clockwork Orange
12-03-2006, 02:37 AM
Why did Theodore get pulled after the 1st period tonight. I was flipping between the Nugs, the football games, and the Avs and never heard why.

They said it was a hip injury.

While we're talking about injuries, it appears that the Oilers will be without Ryan Smyth for 4-6 weeks. He fractured his thumb in the game against Columbus tonight.

Bronx33
12-03-2006, 12:29 PM
They said it was a hip injury.

While we're talking about injuries, it appears that the Oilers will be without Ryan Smyth for 4-6 weeks. He fractured his thumb in the game against Columbus tonight.


Jezzzzz first hemsky and now smyth....

Pendejo
12-03-2006, 03:45 PM
They said it was a hip injury.

While we're talking about injuries, it appears that the Oilers will be without Ryan Smyth for 4-6 weeks. He fractured his thumb in the game against Columbus tonight.

Was there any retribution by the Oilers the other night...for Liles' hit on Smyth in their previous game?

broncocalijohn
12-04-2006, 05:20 AM
Why would the Caps be worried about the Pens? The majority of Caps fans don't care what happen's in their 2nd year of rebuilding.


The point was that there are a couple of Caps fans here at the mane. Caps would worry about a team in their own conference than fans here that root for Ducks, Kings, Avs, Wings ie. Western Conference.

broncocalijohn
12-04-2006, 05:24 AM
Were like Jerkyll and Hyde right now, we just beat the Devils and should have won our third straight game but...
I tell you what's wrong....Cloutier. Hate to say it but Bronx33 was right but I was hoping he would pan out. Now we have serious goalie problems and Garon is injured which means beachball will start a few games, we just called up Brust from the AHL and NOT Labarbera because of the re-entry waivers. I do like what Im seeing from the kids though this year ala Frolov, Brown, Cammalleri, and Kopitar. I suspect we will get more prospects at the trading deadline and we have Boyle and Jack Johnson for the future, I should reiterate that there is NO expectations from the Kings this year.

Where is Kelly Hrudey ?
I think some guy name Jaime is available for the Kings too.

At least you took my Ducks down tonight. Not a great weekend. SC lost, Broncos lose and Ducks lose the wrap up game against the Kings.

Bronx33
12-04-2006, 07:54 PM
Interesting read on jesgolbez blogspot on the avs past drafts..


It's struck me, over the years, that as much success as the Avalanche have had on the ice (two Cups since '96, Vancouver fans!), the Pierre Lacroix/Francois Giguere era has been pretty lacking as far as the draft goes. Years of high hopes for Peter Ratchuk, Mikhail Kuleshov, Martin Grenier, and the like have embittered me.

I don't know if the Avs are really any worse (or better) than any other team, but (with one glaring exception) it seems like they've had a lot of underwhelming draft classes since coming to Denver.

Having some spare time at work tonight, I thought I'd take a look. I only started looking in 1995 -- rather unfairly, perhaps, since the Nordiques' 1994 draft class produced Chris Drury, Milan Hejduk, and Tim Thomas. But this is hardly a scientific study, really -- more just humoring something that's been bugging me for a while.

So, the draft classes. Players that saw NHL time are in bold:

1995: Marc Denis, Nic Beaudoin, John Tripp, Tomi Kallio, Brent Johnson, John Cirjak, Dan Smith, Tomi Hirvonen, Chris George

Only Denis and Johnson remain in the league. Kallio was serviceable enough for the Thrashers for a couple years; the other guys were just on the fringe. Best player: Denis

1996: Peter Ratchuk, Yuri Babenko, Mark Parrish, Ben Storey, Randy Petruk, Luke Curtin, Brian Willsie, Kai Fischer, Dan Hinote, Samuel Pahlsson, Roman Pylner, Matt Scorsune, Justin Clark

Only Babenko and Hinote ever played for Colorado -- Parrish was traded away (for Tom Fitzgerald, I think) and Pahlsson in the Ray Bourque deal, which I certainly can't complain about. Hinote, Pahlsson, and Parrish are all very different players with similar usefulness levels -- I'd say Pahlsson is the best of the group, but I'm not religious about it or anything.

1997: Kevin Grimes, Graham Belak, Rick Berry, Ville Nieminen, Brad Larsen, Aaron Miskovich, David Aebischer, Doug Schmidt, Kyle Kidney, Steve Lafleur

Ok -- I'm a pretty big Avalanche fan, and in 1997 I was probably watching the draft. But for the life of me I cannot remember anything about Kevin Grimes. Uh, according to hockeydb.com, he hasn't played since 2004. And he appears to have been a tough defenseman. That's about it. As an added bonus, the Avs managed to find the less-talented Belak brother. Only Aebischer keeps this from being a comically bad year. Best player: Abby, by a mile.

1998: Alex Tanguay, Martin Skoula, Robyn Regehr, Scott Parker, Ramzi Abid, Philippe Sauve, Steve Moore, Evgeny Lazarev, K.C. Timmons, Alex Riazantzev

The odd year out. Giving us hope that the Avs were perpetually self-sustaining, Lacroix accumulated four first round picks, in exchange for Mike Ricci, Stephane Fiset, Chris Simon, Curtis Leschyshyn, Landon Wilson and Anders Myrvold. There were rumors that the four would be swapped for the number one pick, giving Colorado the Michael Jordan of the NHL; that didn't happen, obviously, but they still came away with four NHL regulars. Unfortunately, those four were eventually swapped out, most depressingly in the Regehr/Corbet for Theo Fleury trade. Added bonus for the year: I've seen Riazantzev spelled more different ways than any name I've ever seen. Best player: Regehr.

1999: Mikhail Kuleshov, Martin Grenier, Branko Radivojevic, Sanny Lindstrom, Kristian Kovac, Will Magnuson, Jordan Krestanovich, Anders Lovdahl, Riku Hahl, Radim Vrbata, Jeff Finger

Ah, Mikhail Kuleshov, perhaps the biggest disappointment. The early reports indicated this rarely-seen Russian winger was a diamond in the rough -- then it took a few years to get over, and he was a fringe AHLer when he got here. Grenier was part of the "I was traded for Ray Bourque" club. Of the full-time NHLers here, two of them were in the last three picks. Best player: Vrbata.

2000: Vaclav Nedorost, Jared Aulin, Sergei Soin, Agris Saviels, Kurt Sauer, Sergei Klyazmin, Brian Fahey, John-Michael Liles, Chris Bahen, Aaron Molnar, Darryl Bootland, Sean Kotary, Blake Ward

Or perhaps Nedorost is the biggest disappointment. He came to Colorado mucho hyped, made the cover of local magazines as the star of the new century, and so on, and ended up traded for Peter Worrell. He's back in Ceske Budejovice now, I think. Beyond that? I hadn't realized that the Avs originally drafted Kurt Sauer or Darryl Bootland. Learn something new every day. Best player: Liles

2001: Peter Budaj, Danny Bois, Colt King, Frantisek Skladany, Cody McCormick, Miiko Viitanen, Pierre-Luc Emond, Scott Horvath, Charlie Stephens, Marek Svatos

Two solid contributors bookending a bunch of minor-leaguers. It's about time for me to stop thinking that Mikko Viitanen's going to be a NHL star. Best player: Svatos.

I'll rather arbitratily stop here -- after 2001 it's probably still a bit early to tell, and it saves me having to contemplate that the Avs gave up Tom Gilbert for Tommy Salo.

But -- am I wrong here? Does this seem a bit below-par for a team over the same time period? Only the 1996 and 1998 classes can really be considered at all productive, beyond a player here or there. I'm not a stats guy -- or rather, I like stats but only when other people do them. So I really don't know if this is just about average. What say you?

Jori
12-04-2006, 09:21 PM
The Avs have done well finding players in the middle and late rounds, but didn't do well in the early rounds (plus you have to consider draft picks that were traded away). There was a noticable change within the last few drafts, a high concentration of NCAA players (few European players). Now that there is a new chief scout, I'll be curious to see if the Avs draft philosophy will change again. My guess is that they'll start drafting European players again (they haven't selected one in the last two drafts), as they have hired some new European scouts.

When it comes to drafted players currently in the NHL, the Avs are in the top five of the NHL. So while they have made mistakes in the early rounds, their late and middle round drafting has made up for some of it.

Mtbrncofn
12-05-2006, 12:16 AM
He picked Robyn Regehr over Tanguay as the best of that bunch?

Jori
12-05-2006, 12:57 AM
I'll say another thing...the Avs have done poorly when it comes to drafting and developing defensemen. I'm hoping one of Williams/Montgomery turns out to be something and they may have a Liles-lite in Kyle Cumiskey, who is currently playing in Albany.

alkemical
12-05-2006, 10:15 AM
You think that's bad, look at the pens draft history.....

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr000050.html

Bronx33
12-07-2006, 05:04 PM
http://sport.monstersandcritics.com/nhl/article_1230851.php/Nieuwendyk_calls_it_a_career

Sunrise, FL - Florida Panthers forward Joe Nieuwendyk has announced his retirement due to lingering back problems.

'This game has been great to me,' said Nieuwendyk. 'I am forever grateful to all those players, coaches, general managers and everyone that I have been associated with throughout my playing career. I have had a lot of fun playing this game, but it was time for me to make this decision, as it was in the best interest of myself as well as my family.'

Nieuwendyk made the decision to retire following a visit to a specialist at a Cleveland clinic last Thursday. Doctors there advised the 40-year-old forward that it would not be in his best interest to try and comeback from injuries which have plagued him for the past three seasons.

On Monday, he informed head coach and general manager Jacques Martin that he was thinking of retirement, then made the decision public.

Nieuwendyk joined the Panthers prior to the 2005-2006 season as an unrestricted free agent. Following a 26-goal campaign last year, he has only played 15 games this season, scoring five goals, and has not seen action since November 28th.

The Oshawa, Ontario native was the 27th overall pick in the 1985 draft, and broke in with the Flames out of Cornell University in 1987. He is one of only three players in league history to reach the 50-goal plateau in each of his first two full seasons (51 in 1987-88 and 1988-89), joining Hall-of-Famers Wayne Gretzky and Mike Bossy.

In a 20-year career, Nieuwendyk has accumulated 564 goals, 562 assists for 1126 points in 1257 games with Calgary, Dallas, New Jersey, Toronto and Florida.

'Joe is a first-class act who has been a tremendous ambassador for the game,' general manager and head coach Jacques Martin said. 'His career numbers speak for themselves and he will forever be recognized as one of the league's most successful players. The entire Panthers organization wishes Joe and his family the best in their future endeavors.'

The 1988 Calder Trophy winner for top rookie in the NHL is also a three-time Stanley Cup winner, with Calgary (1989), Dallas (1999), and New Jersey (2003). His international career includes two stints representing Canada in two Winter Olympics, winning a Gold Medal in Salt Lake City in 2002.

Bronx33
12-09-2006, 02:33 PM
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17570296&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Peter Forsberg isn’t hurt. He doesn’t have the flu. No measles, mumps, or chicken pox either. Yet, he’s going to miss at least the next week because his skates don’t fit right.

Forsberg was scratched from the lineup Friday with continued discomfort in his right skate boot and will be out of the lineup until a proper replacement can be found.

"He’ll probably be out at least the next four games," said Flyers G.M. Paul Holmgren. "I think it’s fair to say we’re frustrated with it now, just like Peter is. But, we’re not ready to wave the white flag just yet. Peter doesn’t feel that way either. We’re going to keep trying to find a solution for this. If there is one there."

Forsberg will undergo an extensive evaluation at Temple University Monday and then will fly to Montreal Wednesday to meet with representatives of the Bauer equipment company in hopes of constructing a skate boot that will fit his foot and allow him to play at or near his expected level.

"I wouldn’t do any good on the ice," said Forsberg. "It feels like I can’t turn..For my own safety too..I don’t think it’ll be good until we find a skate that gets better and we find a skate that’s at least close to where I should be and can keep my balance. Right now it doesn’t feel like that at all."

Forsberg backed out of the lineup after the team’s Friday morning practice at Continental Airlines Arena.

After scratching himself from the lineup, an aggravated Forsberg threw his equipment across the locker room.

"He feels like he’s actually hurting the hockey team, not helping by the way he’s playing," said Flyers coach John Stevens. "So, it’s not like there’s pain in the foot where he can’t play, he becomes so unbalanced by the way it fits right now, he’s unable to play beyond 50 percent."

The questions have been mounting about whether this is a medical problem and not just an equipment issue, but, Forsberg is high maintenance. He is a perfectionist, and the team has said the doctors who have examined the Flyers captain do not feel there is anything significantly wrong with the surgically repaired right foot or ankle.

"None of the doctors have alluded to that," said Holmgren. "We know his ankle is loose -- the ligaments -- but I was also on a conference call with Peter and Dr. (Brian Donley of the Cleveland Clinic) and he feels surgery is not an option to fix it. The only option he has is to work with some kind of brace or boot that is built to hold things in place, and that’s what we’re trying to do."

Forsberg concurred, giving specifics about the inner workings of his foot.

"There’s nothing that can be done surgically about it," said Forsberg. "One of things that is happening is I’m stretching the small ligaments and maybe it has something to do with that, but I don’t want to speculate. There’s nothing you can do to fix those though. They’re too small to go in there and fix."

Since his arrival in Philadelphia, prior to last season, the Flyers have not fared to well without Forsberg in the lineup.

Last season they were 10-10-2 without him, and 35-16-9 with him. This year, they haven’t won any of the five game prior to Friday that he missed (0-2-3), and are 8-13-1 with him - and that’s without him being anywhere close to the player he can be.

"He’s not a guy that’s easily replaced," said Stevens. "He creates a big hole in the lineup. For the last little while it’s put a big focus on the team game and have everyone concentrate on the team game. Maybe by committee we can get some good things done here."

Meanwhile, the Flyers need to start weighing other options, as in what they can do to bolster the lineup if Forsberg is going to be in-and-out of the lineup for the remainder of the season.

"Is there something we can do that will make us better while we’re waiting for Peter," asked Holmgren rhetorically. "Well, we’re always looking to do that anyway. You can only do what you can do. Nothing is coming down the pike that we can do anyway.

"We’ve been proactive trying to find help, but there are certain guys that aren’t going anywhere regardless."

As for Forsberg’s future..well..it remains up in the air, and while he doesn’t want to talk about it, retirement is looming as an option for the 33-year-old, two-time Stanley Cup Winner and two-time Olympic gold medalist.

"Of course I’m frustrated," said Forsberg. "It’s probably the hardest part of my career. I want to be out there and I can’t help my team win.

"I don’t want to think like that (about retirement). There’s got to be a solution. Hopefully there’s a way to get it done. I know it’s going to be hard and frustrating, but I’ve got to stay positive."

lll

The Flyers sent Boyd Kane back to the Phantoms of the AHL, but with Forsberg out for the time being, chances are he will be back soon.

Bronx33
12-09-2006, 05:07 PM
SCORING PACE
minutes between points

P M/P
1 32 12.0 Maxim Afinogenov (BUF)
2 37 13.4 Sidney Crosby (PIT)
3 39 13.6 Teemu Selanne (ANH)
4 33 14.3 Thomas Vanek (BUF)
5 28 14.4 Alexei Yashin (NYI)
6 41 15.5 Marian Hossa (ATL)
7 41 15.7 Jaromir Jagr (NYR)
8 15 15.9 Glen Metropolit (ATL)
9 34 16.0 Daniel Briere (BUF)
10 36 16.0 Jason Spezza (OTT)
11 31 16.2 Marc Savard (BOS)
12 36 16.5 Dany Heatley (OTT)
13 35 16.9 Michael Nylander (NYR)
14 28 17.0 Petr Sykora (EDM)
15 29 17.0 Jason Blake (NYI)
16 27 17.3 Steve Sullivan (NSH)
17 23 17.3 Alexander Semin (WAS)
18 36 17.6 V. Lecavalier (TB)
19 25 17.8 Milan Michalek (SJ)
20 33 18.0 Brendan Shanahan (NYR)
21 33 18.0 Martin Straka (NYR)
22 28 18.1 Patrick Marleau (SJ)
23 32 18.2 A. Ovechkin (WAS)
24 34 18.4 Slava Kozlov (ATL)
25 26 18.4 Chris Kunitz (ANH)
26 31 18.4 Ray Whitney (CAR)
27 25 18.5 Evgeni Malkin (PIT)
28 29 18.8 Joe Sakic (COL)
29 21 18.9 Ryan Getzlaf (ANH)
30 27 18.9 Saku Koivu (MON)
31 27 19.0 Andy McDonald (ANH)
32 19 19.0 Mike Ribeiro (DAL)
33 28 19.0 Chris Drury (BUF)
34 22 19.0 Steve Bernier (SJ)
35 30 19.1 Jarome Iginla (CGY)
36 23 19.1 Alex Tanguay (CGY)
37 37 19.1 Martin St. Louis (TB)
38 36 19.2 Rod Brind'Amour (CAR)
39 29 19.5 Joe Thornton (SJ)
40 18 19.6 Scott Gomez (NJ)
41 30 19.6 Erik Cole (CAR)
42 17 19.7 Corey Perry (ANH)
43 25 19.9 Martin Erat (NSH)
44 34 19.9 Ilya Kovalchuk (ATL)
45 14 19.9 Georges Laraque (PHO)
46 29 20.1 Alexander Frolov (LA)
47 21 20.1 Viktor Kozlov (NYI)
48 20 20.1 Marek Svatos (COL)
49 18 20.3 Wojtek Wolski (COL)
50 14 20.4 Michel Ouellet (PIT)
51 24 20.5 M. Cammalleri (LA)
52 16 20.5 Randy Robitaille (PHI)
53 15 20.7 Chris Simon (NYI)
54 26 20.8 Darcy Tucker (TOR)
54 26 20.8 Patrice Bergeron (BOS)
56 18 20.9 Ales Hemsky (EDM)
57 26 21.3 Paul Kariya (NSH)
58 19 21.4 Tyler Arnason (COL)
59 19 21.4 Jeff O'Neill (TOR)
60 20 21.5 P. Bouchard (MIN)
61 25 21.6 Henrik Sedin (VAN)
62 22 21.7 Keith Tkachuk (STL)
63 16 21.8 Derek Armstrong (LA)
64 22 21.8 Ryan Smyth (EDM)
65 16 21.9 Jason Arnott (NSH)
66 24 22.0 Daymond Langkow (CGY)
67 18 22.1 Eric Lindros (DAL)
68 29 22.1 Olli Jokinen (FLA)
69 16 22.2 Matt Pettinger (WAS)
70 21 22.2 Ladislav Nagy (PHO)
71 16 22.2 Daniel Cleary (DET)
72 17 22.3 Geoff Sanderson (PHI)
73 22 22.3 Patrik Elias (NJ)
74 21 22.3 Mats Sundin (TOR)
75 19 22.4 Brad Boyes (BOS)

Individual point scoring based upon time on ice. This places first-liners and fourth-liners on an even footing. All values are normalized to a typical game for a first-liner: 20 minutes of ice time per game.

Killericon
12-10-2006, 01:23 AM
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Bronx33
12-11-2006, 06:50 PM
Another perspective on this train wreck bettman calls scheduling, nothing like throwing the same teams in a closet over and over and over. (Boring!) IMO

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/pro/content/shared/sports/stories/2006/12/HKN_KELLENBERGER_1206_COX.html

ROCKY MOUNT, N.C. — The Carolina Hurricanes departed Raleigh-Durham International Airport last week and flew out of the Eastern time zone for the first time in the 2006-07 season.

It will be one of just two trips away from the East Coast this season (the second will be to Minnesota in February, the last leg of a three-game road trip). The Hurricanes will play four games during this nine-day trip, from the mountains of Colorado to wildly underrated Vancouver.

Ten Western Conference teams will not see Eric Staal flourish in his third NHL season, marvel at Cam Ward's athletic ability or count the minutes the seemingly ageless Rod Brind'Amour spends on the ice each night.

Here in North Carolina, fans will not have the chance to view NHL stars like Joe Sakic, Jarome Iginla, Ryan Smyth, Nicklas Lidstrom, Pavel Datsyuk and Miikka Kiprusoff up close. Doug Weight will not make a return to Carolina, nor will the Hurricanes make a trip to St. Louis.

This is a tragedy. And it's a major hurdle in reestablishing the NHL as one of the four major sports leagues in the United States.

The NHL has gotten so much right after getting so much wrong during the year-long lockout that killed the 2004-05 season. The game has not been this exciting in recent memory, young stars are seemingly growing on trees and the league's marketing attempts have reached out to young audiences.

But in making a decision, post-lockout, to schedule eight games against divisional rivals each season and four games against each conference opponent, the league created a mess.

That scheduling arrangement, intended to create and enhance geographic rivalries, left just 10 games to be played against teams in the opposing conference.

So each season, each of the 30 NHL teams will not play any games against five other NHL teams. How does this make sense?

The purpose of playing the season is to prepare yourself for a run at the Stanley Cup. Does playing eight games against Florida do that for Carolina? Does it do anything other than insure less-than-capacity crowds by the end of the season, when fans should be gearing up for the Stanley Cup playoffs but instead are asking, "Them? Again?"

There is simply no reason — from financial to competitive to because someone said so — to continue this insane two-year experiment in scheduling.

The owners, meeting this week in Florida, are expected to discuss this issue. That's a start, though no one should leave the room until commissioner Gary Bettman has been told how to proceed.

Every team should play every other team twice, once at home and once on the road. Six games is plenty to play against divisional rivals.

That leaves 28 games in the 82-game NHL schedule. If each team plays their remaining conference opponents at home and away, it leaves eight games. Rotating the games among the 10 conference opponents will work.

It's not perfect. But it's better than what we have.

Mtbrncofn
12-11-2006, 10:35 PM
Man, Budaj is making some beauties tonight.

24champ
12-11-2006, 11:34 PM
Former Kings coach Andy Murray is hired to coach the Blues.

http://www.stlouisblues.com/news/0607/061211.html

Mtbrncofn
12-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Hopefully they'll get their first win with Murray a day or two after Wednesday.

Jori
12-12-2006, 01:08 AM
Sad news out of Boston:

Source: Bruins' Kessel Diagnosed With Cancer

Steve Burton
Reporting

(CBS4) BOSTON CBS4 has learned for the second time in recent months, another young athlete is in a major medical fight. The Boston Bruins' first-round pick Phil Kessel has testicular cancer.

Sources say Kessel is currently at Mass. General Hospital and was due to undergo surgery.

Kessel is said to be in good spirits. He was the Bruins' number one pick and fifth overall in the NHL.

Testicular cancer usually occurs in young men and can be treated and often cured, according to the American Cancer Society.

Each year, about 8,000 men are diagnosed. This is one of the most curable forms of cancer.

A man's risk of getting this cancer in his lifetime is about one in 300, according to specialists.

Another Boston athlete, Red Sox pitcher Jon Lester, was also diagnosed with cancer earlier this year. He is currently in remission from Lymphoma and is expected to be at spring training in February.

http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_345230707.html

Get well soon Phil!

Pendejo
12-12-2006, 01:12 AM
Former Kings coach Andy Murray is hired to coach the Blues.

http://www.stlouisblues.com/news/0607/061211.html

I didn't really care for Murray, but he did do a good job with the Kings. He doesn't have a stanley cup, but he's a better coach than crawford.

Pendejo
12-12-2006, 01:15 AM
Wow. I read earlier today that Kessel left the Bruins for an "undisclosed reason"...I figured it was something personal.

Hope everything turns out alright for him. The NHL with all that's wrong with it...has a very very good crop of young talent...of which Kessel is one.

Mtbrncofn
12-12-2006, 01:51 AM
Sad news out of Boston:

Source: Bruins' Kessel Diagnosed With Cancer

Steve Burton
Reporting

(CBS4) BOSTON CBS4 has learned for the second time in recent months, another young athlete is in a major medical fight. The Boston Bruins' first-round pick Phil Kessel has testicular cancer.

Sources say Kessel is currently at Mass. General Hospital and was due to undergo surgery.

Kessel is said to be in good spirits. He was the Bruins' number one pick and fifth overall in the NHL.

Testicular cancer usually occurs in young men and can be treated and often cured, according to the American Cancer Society.

Each year, about 8,000 men are diagnosed. This is one of the most curable forms of cancer.

A man's risk of getting this cancer in his lifetime is about one in 300, according to specialists.

Another Boston athlete, Red Sox pitcher Jon Lester, was also diagnosed with cancer earlier this year. He is currently in remission from Lymphoma and is expected to be at spring training in February.

http://cbs4boston.com/topstories/local_story_345230707.html

Get well soon Phil!


Wow. That sucks. Get well soon, Kessel! You can beat it!

Nineteen?! Geez. :pray:

24champ
12-12-2006, 01:49 PM
I didn't really care for Murray, but he did do a good job with the Kings. He doesn't have a stanley cup, but he's a better coach than crawford.

Murray may be a nice guy but we didn't do jack due to his conservative gameplan, Crawford can be an A-hole but he really opens up the ice for the players. Once we get some actual talent in LA (someone to actually help Kopitar) then we will be pretty damn good. I wish Murray all the best but Im glad he is gone, Crawford will do well here.

24champ
12-12-2006, 05:32 PM
Theo Fleury is now in the Concrete business.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/Sports/Hockey/2006/12/12/2753031-sun.html

Pendejo
12-12-2006, 05:42 PM
Murray may be a nice guy but we didn't do jack due to his conservative gameplan, Crawford can be an A-hole but he really opens up the ice for the players. Once we get some actual talent in LA (someone to actually help Kopitar) then we will be pretty damn good. I wish Murray all the best but Im glad he is gone, Crawford will do well here.

Crawford had a pretty talented team in Vancouver, and didn't do anything with it. He's a hack. Oh well...as long as kings fans are happy with him...that's all that matters.

24champ
12-12-2006, 06:05 PM
Crawford had a pretty talented team in Vancouver, and didn't do anything with it. He's a hack. Oh well...as long as kings fans are happy with him...that's all that matters.

Crawford didn't start with a talented team in Van. Crow is the second youngest coach to reach 400 wins second to Scotty Bowman, and I can rattle off more things about Crow coaching stats if I wanted to. Fact of the matter is that the entire Kings organization has been rebuilt from the Front office to the equipment manager. Things aren't going to click overnight. Once the Kings bring up the talent from the minors and junior leagues then things will move forward. We have Tukonen, Jack Johnson, Johnathan Bernier, Brian Boyle, Joe Ryan, 0'Sullivan, and Petiot. Not to mention Brown, Cammalleri, Frolov, and Kopitar are all young players playing everyday for the Kings. I suspect the next year or two things will start moving quickly.

Pendejo
12-12-2006, 08:57 PM
According to his agent Kessel's surgery was successful. Apparently they got on top of this pretty early.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2695193

Mtbrncofn
12-13-2006, 12:07 AM
Crawford didn't start with a talented team in Van. Crow is the second youngest coach to reach 400 wins second to Scotty Bowman, and I can rattle off more things about Crow coaching stats if I wanted to. Fact of the matter is that the entire Kings organization has been rebuilt from the Front office to the equipment manager. Things aren't going to click overnight. Once the Kings bring up the talent from the minors and junior leagues then things will move forward. We have Tukonen, Jack Johnson, Johnathan Bernier, Brian Boyle, Joe Ryan, 0'Sullivan, and Petiot. Not to mention Brown, Cammalleri, Frolov, and Kopitar are all young players playing everyday for the Kings. I suspect the next year or two things will start moving quickly.

Careful, cb. At the end of Crawford's stint with the Kings, that could be all you are left with, stats. :)

24champ
12-13-2006, 02:33 AM
Careful, cb. At the end of Crawford's stint with the Kings, that could be all you are left with, stats. :)
You mean like that coach Joel "Close but no cigar" Quennenville does?

Mtbrncofn
12-14-2006, 11:39 AM
Yeah, just like that. :)

alkemical
12-14-2006, 12:29 PM
No mention at all of Mr. Crosby's night on this thread.

Now please start telling me how good he is. LOL.

Mtbrncofn
12-14-2006, 01:05 PM
You're right, that does deserve mention. Six points and gets the scoring lead in the league. Way to go, Sid. Especially since it was the Flyers. Ha! :thumbs:

alkemical
12-14-2006, 01:06 PM
Oh the icing on the cake was it was vs. the flyers. Kid has like 30pts in 15 games vs them.

Can we say "OWNED"? I knew that you could.

Mtbrncofn
12-14-2006, 04:17 PM
OWNED!

broncocalijohn
12-14-2006, 04:24 PM
Selanne was going after Jagr then Crosby becomes Gretz JR and pulls out a goal and 5 assists. I think he was the 4th youngest for 6 points. GRETZ DID IT TWICE.

alkemical
12-14-2006, 04:38 PM
Crosby isn't Gretzky Jr. He's Crosby. But then crosby has 17 multipoint games this year.....

Don't hate - enjoy it. They don't come around very often.

Bronx33
12-14-2006, 08:56 PM
The former Colorado Avalanche forward filed the suit against Bertuzzi last February in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, seeking damages and lost wages. The suit came two years after Bertuzzi, then with the Vancouver Canucks, punched Moore from behind and drove the Avalanche forward onto the ice. Moore suffered three broken vertebrae, a concussion and other injuries.

Sources say legal representatives for Moore, who has not played since the March 8, 2004 game, and Bertuzzi, now a member of the Florida Panthers, requested the meeting with Bettman. The NHL and a Bertuzzi representative had no comment on the matter. Moore's lawyer, Tim Danson, did not immediately return calls for comment.

In filing the civil suit, Danson, alleged the Bertuzzi attack was payback for Moore's hit on Canuck captain Markus Naslund a month earlier. Bertuzzi was suspended for the final 13 games of the regular season, plus the playoffs leading into a lockout that wiped out the entire 2003-2004 season. Bertuzzi was charged by Vancouver police and pleaded guilty to assault causing bodily harm.

Bronx33
12-15-2006, 07:20 PM
(CP) - A month ago Joe Pavelski was toiling in Worcester, Mass., in the AHL.

Now? His new nickname is "Little Joe," and he's playing on the top line with the San Jose Sharks alongside superstar centre Joe Thornton. "Everything's happened so quick," Pavelski said from San Jose. "I've gotten a few scoring chances and I've been able to capitalize so far."

Try seven goals and one assist in 11 games since his recall. Asked what his reaction would have been if told of this output before he got called up, Pavelski laughed.

"I would have said, 'That's awesome, but where have all the assists gone?' Because down in the AHL, all I could get for a while was assists," he said. "Then I get up here and I'm just scoring goals and guys are like, 'I thought you were a disher, now you're a scorer?' But hey, it's kind of fun to get the goals."

He didn't get a point Thursday night in a 4-2 loss to Los Angeles but logged 20:55 minutes, tops among any Sharks winger, and was out there with the goalie pulled in the late stages as San Jose tried to make it close. He was also once again on the top power-play unit.

"He can play in any situation," Sharks GM Doug Wilson said this week. "Coaches look at players like this and say, 'Geez, give me 20 of them."'

Pavelski led the Wisconsin Badgers to the NCAA title last season, then had a superb camp with the Sharks in September.

"He had a training camp, in many ways, that arguably he should have made our team out of camp," said Wilson. "Then we made the decision to send him to Worcester. And in my mind he was the best player that I saw in the American Hockey League, at both ends of the rink."

He forced San Jose's hand by putting up 26 points (8-18) in 16 AHL games. When Milan Michalek and Jonathan Cheechoo went down with injuries in late November, Pavelski was the obvious call-up. Michalek and Cheechoo have since returned, but Pavelski hasn't gone back down.



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"He's certainly taken advantage of his chance," said Wilson. "He's got one of those hockey minds where he can play with anybody, he can play in any situation. He's just a great kid. When you meet his mom and dad you can understand why.

"I think he's going to be a very dominant player in this league for a long time. He's a hockey player."

Pavelski says the last four weeks have flown by.

"It has been a blur," said the 22-year-old native of Stevens Point, Wis. "I guess right now I'm just trying to be in the moment. That's an easy thing to get out of, to sit back and wonder, 'What's going on here.' But every day has just been just that much better. Just enjoying going to practice, being around the guys, being around some of the best players in the world.

"Just go out, do your job and do what go you here."

Family and friends back in Wisconsin are pumped beyond belief.

"I'm getting (messages) all the time from the boys back in Wisconsin," he said. "My parents are really proud, they were out here last week and they had a great time. I guess they're surprised, too, by how quick everything is happening.

"And everybody's calling me from back home saying they've the NHL package now. Some guys back at school are like, 'Quit being on SportsCenter, will you? What are you doing?' Just lots of joking like that, it's been pretty cool."

Interview requests, like the one by The Canadian Press, have been flying in from all over the continent.

"Yeah, I'm getting bombarded a bit right now but I guess that's a good thing," he said.

For Wilson, it's just the latest product from a memorable 2003 NHL entry draft that produced winger Michalek (sixth overall), winger Steve Bernier (16th overall), defenceman Matthew Carle (47th overall) and Pavelski - 205th overall. That's right, he was taken in the seventh round.

"Tim Burke and his staff," Wilson said, crediting his director of scouting.

In the broader sense, Wilson feels the '03 draft allowed him to pull the trigger on the Thornton blockbuster.

"Why? Because you move a (Brad) Stuart, a (Marco) Sturm and a (Wayne) Primeau, sure you get a Joe Thornton, but you better have other people that can step in and fill all those roles," said Wilson. "So in comes Michalek, Bernier and Carle last year. And now Pavelski."

It's called depth, which the good organizations get from smart drafting. And it's how Stanley Cups will be won, more than ever, in the salary cap NHL.

Mtbrncofn
12-16-2006, 01:45 AM
Gosh, that sucks.

Capitals owner Freeman killed in crash

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=188560&hubname=nhl

Bronx33
12-16-2006, 04:16 PM
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=8aaa9f16-d129-4ea7-b6e9-162f30426bc0&k=72731

DENVER - Jose Theodore has his Hart, but does he have the hands and feet to be an NHL starting goalie anymore?

The veteran netminder won the NHL's MVP award in 2002 in Montreal, catching the fancy of the voters with two or three great months to get the Canadiens into the playoffs, but it's looking like one of those, "How did that happen?" stories.

The Colorado Avalanche netminder, who took his Hart Trophy and turned it into a $5.5-million US a year contract, watched $600,000 US backup Peter Budaj get the nod against the Edmonton Oilers on Friday night.

It was the third straight game Budaj, the Avalanche's top draft pick in 2001, has started while Theodore looked on.

Owner Stan Kroenke isn't crazy about paying that kind of dough for a cheerleader, but it's coach Joel Quenneville's call.

Budaj went into the Oilers game with a 7-4-1 record as a starter while Theo-dore has logged an 8-8-1 mark. Budaj's goals-against-average was 2.38, Theo-dore's at 3.06.

Theodore, who's an albatross around the neck of the Avs if he can't recover his game because they have to pay him next year, too, knows he has to be better.

"You're not going to win the Hart every year, but I still think I can be at that level," said the 30-year-old, who became only the second goalie (Dominik Hasek) in the last 45 years to win the MVP.

He's had some excellent games -- he won three straight starts in late October to early November with an impressive .942 save percentage -- but his play has been too up and down for a guy making his salary.

Backups can stand on their head every now and then, but No. 1 guys are supposed to be consistent.

The heat to perform in Montreal can be suffocating, especially for a French-Canadian, of course. He welcomed his trade to Denver last spring, but he's also following Hall of Famer Patrick Roy.

"The puck is the same size and so is the net (no matter where you play)," said Theodore. But when he was at his acrobatic best in Montreal, the puck looked the size of a grapefruit. Now, it's more like a marble. And he's also been allowing juicy rebounds, so, technically, his game is off-kilter.

"Jose's been all right this year ... he's starting to go in the right direction. He's looking to recapture his top form,"

said Quenneville, who knows the guy writing the cheques might rather see Theodore, but he has to look out for his players. He says it's not a money issue.

"As a coach you go into the season and look at the goalies and it's an independent decision," Quenneville told the Rocky Mountain News. "I don't think there's any pressure or influence based on economics. It's opportunity, based on who gives us the best chance to win."

And Theodore, frankly, hasn't been anywhere near the hot goalie who won the MVP and the Vezina trophy four years ago. His rebound control has been poor -- too many shots kicked into areas where shooters can fire again -- and he's been tentative in the net.

"It's a tough position where you really get scrutinized, where you're always measured if you let in a bad goal. But we think he's challenging more. He's on top of his crease more.

"I told Peter at the start of the year, not to be happy with the backup role," said Quenneville of Budaj. "Down the stretch, we saw he could get us into the playoffs (he played 14 straight games while Theodore, who'd broken his foot slipping on the sidewalk outside his home in Montreal before he was traded here, recuperated)."

Bronx33
12-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Gosh, that sucks.

Capitals owner Freeman killed in crash

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=188560&hubname=nhl




Pretty sad....but when it's your time too go (it's your time to go)

Mtbrncofn
12-16-2006, 07:42 PM
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=8aaa9f16-d129-4ea7-b6e9-162f30426bc0&k=72731

DENVER - Jose Theodore has his Hart, but does he have the hands and feet to be an NHL starting goalie anymore?

The veteran netminder won the NHL's MVP award in 2002 in Montreal, catching the fancy of the voters with two or three great months to get the Canadiens into the playoffs, but it's looking like one of those, "How did that happen?" stories.

The Colorado Avalanche netminder, who took his Hart Trophy and turned it into a $5.5-million US a year contract, watched $600,000 US backup Peter Budaj get the nod against the Edmonton Oilers on Friday night.

It was the third straight game Budaj, the Avalanche's top draft pick in 2001, has started while Theodore looked on.

Owner Stan Kroenke isn't crazy about paying that kind of dough for a cheerleader, but it's coach Joel Quenneville's call.

Budaj went into the Oilers game with a 7-4-1 record as a starter while Theo-dore has logged an 8-8-1 mark. Budaj's goals-against-average was 2.38, Theo-dore's at 3.06.

Theodore, who's an albatross around the neck of the Avs if he can't recover his game because they have to pay him next year, too, knows he has to be better.

"You're not going to win the Hart every year, but I still think I can be at that level," said the 30-year-old, who became only the second goalie (Dominik Hasek) in the last 45 years to win the MVP.

He's had some excellent games -- he won three straight starts in late October to early November with an impressive .942 save percentage -- but his play has been too up and down for a guy making his salary.

Backups can stand on their head every now and then, but No. 1 guys are supposed to be consistent.

The heat to perform in Montreal can be suffocating, especially for a French-Canadian, of course. He welcomed his trade to Denver last spring, but he's also following Hall of Famer Patrick Roy.

"The puck is the same size and so is the net (no matter where you play)," said Theodore. But when he was at his acrobatic best in Montreal, the puck looked the size of a grapefruit. Now, it's more like a marble. And he's also been allowing juicy rebounds, so, technically, his game is off-kilter.

"Jose's been all right this year ... he's starting to go in the right direction. He's looking to recapture his top form,"

said Quenneville, who knows the guy writing the cheques might rather see Theodore, but he has to look out for his players. He says it's not a money issue.

"As a coach you go into the season and look at the goalies and it's an independent decision," Quenneville told the Rocky Mountain News. "I don't think there's any pressure or influence based on economics. It's opportunity, based on who gives us the best chance to win."

And Theodore, frankly, hasn't been anywhere near the hot goalie who won the MVP and the Vezina trophy four years ago. His rebound control has been poor -- too many shots kicked into areas where shooters can fire again -- and he's been tentative in the net.

"It's a tough position where you really get scrutinized, where you're always measured if you let in a bad goal. But we think he's challenging more. He's on top of his crease more.

"I told Peter at the start of the year, not to be happy with the backup role," said Quenneville of Budaj. "Down the stretch, we saw he could get us into the playoffs (he played 14 straight games while Theodore, who'd broken his foot slipping on the sidewalk outside his home in Montreal before he was traded here, recuperated)."


What, they're just now noticing this?

Pendejo
12-16-2006, 09:40 PM
I don't know if it's still there, but earlier this evening ESPN had an article on the front page that stated that after his surgery...tests did not show any cancer left in Kessel. It didn't spread.

According to that article he could be playing again within two weeks.

Mtbrncofn
12-16-2006, 10:24 PM
Wow! That would be incredible. All the best to him and I sincerely hope that's the case.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2699737

Here it is.

Also:

Forsberg returns from ankle injury, then leaves loss with concussion

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=261216023

The hits just keep on comin'.

Jori
12-17-2006, 02:00 PM
The Avalanche the the Cleveland AHL franchise will announce a multi-year agreement today.

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1166348787101340.xml&coll=2

Jori
12-17-2006, 02:09 PM
Avs/Cleveland AHL affiliation is now official!

http://www.theahl.com/news/league/index.html?article_id=7285

Bronx33
12-18-2006, 05:43 PM
What, they're just now noticing this?


Ya think habs fans and the habs organization can take some blame in ruining players? iam going to guess no. :clown:

Bronx33
12-18-2006, 05:47 PM
Avs/Cleveland AHL affiliation is now official!

http://www.theahl.com/news/league/index.html?article_id=7285



Hummmmm cool! do they have a name yet? iam thinking the cleveland a**kickers?

broncocalijohn
12-19-2006, 05:56 AM
Hummmmm cool! do they have a name yet? iam thinking the cleveland a**kickers?

Just announced they are going with the Cleveland Elway 98ers.

Pendejo
12-19-2006, 11:33 AM
Apparently the Avs/Oilers game will be streamed on yahoo tonight. Has anyone ever watched one of these streamed games? Is the quality worth the investment of time?

alkemical
12-19-2006, 12:44 PM
I thought i heard google video was going to stream them too - maybe i misread.

Pendejo
12-19-2006, 01:42 PM
I don't know about google, but think yahoo is working in concert with versus.

I didn't have any idea they were doing this until yesterday.

alkemical
12-19-2006, 01:46 PM
Yeah i can't find anything about it now - so i must have misread.

I see that yahoo + Vs. & OLN + Comcast are doing things.

Pendejo
12-19-2006, 10:59 PM
I think this yahoo streaming deal is pretty sweet. I'm sure I'm behind a huge buffer...but while the picture is small (I'm on a laptop) the quality is pretty good. It beats just listening to the game. I haven't been able to watch much hockey this season...so this is really something.

Every once in awhile the feed cuts out. Stops dead. So I just close the window, and click on the watch link again...and within in minute or so I'm right back in the action.

This is a really cool development. I tried to watch Calgary/Anaheim last night, but couldn't. I think because I'm in LoCal, and if you have cable you can watch them on FSN.

This yahoo service isn't flawless, but it's pretty darn good. I'm pleased.

Kid A
12-20-2006, 12:01 AM
wow, that was pretty sweet. I was able to watch the third period and it worked really well for me.

Mtbrncofn
12-21-2006, 11:41 PM
Mini-Bertuzzi alert! Anyone else catch the cheap shot Scott Nichol landed on Jaro Spacek's face? That was a cheap one.

He deserves a suspension for that.

Clockwork Orange
12-22-2006, 12:03 AM
I saw that. Jumped up and sucker punched him from behind.

24champ
12-22-2006, 06:14 PM
Bettman needs to go...

http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/buzz/2006/12/20/nhls-new-unis-among-sharks-uniform-disapproval/#more-275

NHL’s new unis? Among Sharks, uniform disapproval

By John Ryan
Wednesday, December 20th, 2006 at 1:51 pm in General news, Sharks/NHL.

It has been awhile since the NHL did something really dumb. But don’t worry, the folks in the league office haven’t been laughing about the NBA’s fiasco with the new ball; no, they’ve been thinking about how they can erode another of their better traditions.

This won’t be a blunder along the lines of the glowing puck, but I don’t think it’s going to be good. Think of the most distinctive symbol of the NHL. The one thing that gives the league any cool points with the general public. The sweater.

It’s changing. Not for the better, either, according to at least three prominent Sharks I surveyed today after practice, where they wore new jerseys and socks under the watchful eye of the research and development team of manufacter CCM (a subsidiary of Reebok). The Sharks apparently are early in the rotation, so expect to hear a lot of similar talk in the coming weeks.

The league is scheduled to do a big dog-and-pony show next month at the All-Star Game regarding its new jerseys and socks. In advance, each team will work out once with the new gear; players are miked for their reactions during practice and asked about their impressions afterward. According to The Plan, these opinions will then be taken into account and the uniforms adjusted, with the full rollout for the 2007-08 season. But you have to wonder, if the big debut is a month away, how many alterations can be made.

I can tell you the league is very, VERY nervous about the reaction. The suits from CCM flipped out a little bit when they realized reporters were actually listening to them talk to players five feet away in an open locker room. And standing five feet away from me, the leader of the R&D team didn’t want to talk about the changes, instead relaying answers to specific questions through a Sharks spokesman (who was standing three feet away from me, so I guess he truly was the middleman).

The double-knit polyester is being replaced by a moisture-wicking fabric, hardly an uncommon switch in the athletic world. They’re also making everything tighter.

The reasons are twofold: performance and protection.

“These are to add protection?” Jonathan Cheechoo said.

Yeah. Apparently the tighter fit holds pads into place better.

“It does do that,” Cheechoo said. “I’ll give it that. But it also gives opponents a bird’s-eye view of where your equipment stops.”

His point: For players who are injured, opponents will essentially see an MRI of the body and know exactly which spot is most vulnerable. The sweaters hide a lot of that, particularly in the playoffs.

As for performance, players will feel lighter because the water washes away instead of being absorbed. Nice for a runner. For a hockey player?

“If it gets rid of water, great, but where does the water go?” Kyle McLaren asks. “If it’s going to go down to my gloves and skates, that’s too much water.”

Now, McLaren is a large man. One of the NHL’s biggest, but not the biggest. So it’s kind of interesting that he says the jersey fit OK but he wouldn’t want to go any smaller. And what if he wanted to go a size bigger? … Uh, problem. There isn’t a size bigger. Apparently, in the faster, sleeker NHL, the size limit is 6-foot-5, 230 pounds.

It’s gotta be the … socks?

McLaren had no opinion about the socks because he wouldn’t wear them. Smith said they’re tighter but not bothersome; the biggest problem is the extra sliding once you hit the ice. I’d love to hear his reaction after wearing the stuff for three or five or seven days in a row; betcha that tightness would become a bigger problem.

Performance. Protection. How about physiques?

What the company — through the Sharks over that insurmountable five-foot cone of silence – didn’t cite as a reason was the marketing aspect. But some observers think the move toward tighter fits is meant to show off players’ bodies. It isn’t a totally irrational thought, since probably not many people know how closely Patrick Marleau resembles your basic NFL middle linebacker.

So let’s leave it to free spirit Smith, who was wearing one of the microphones and whose feedback will probably leave CCM’s ears ringing.

“When I watch Modano skating down the ice and his jersey is flowing in the wind, that’s what I want to see,” Smith said.

At the end of the day, players were asked to leave their jerseys hanging in the stalls.

“I’ll hang it right in the garbage,” Smith said.

If you love the traditional sweater, buy one this season.


Just leave the jerseys alone!

24champ
12-22-2006, 06:27 PM
Interesting, Bettman wants to tinker with the Division alignment-

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=189350&hubname=nhl
Bob McKenzie with CP files

12/22/2006 5:11:30 PM

The NHL has been trying for weeks to tinker with its schedule configuration, but is now considering a significant overhaul of the face of the league that includes realignment and a reduction in the number of divisions from six to four.

Nothing is carved in stone at this point, but the NHL is floating an aggressive trial balloon to its governors for consideration. Earlier this week, six club executives, (a mix of governors, teams presidents and GMs), representing the six current divisions met in New York with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and brainstormed to produce a new-look alignment and schedule that they're taking back to other clubs in their respective divisions for feedback.

If there's enough support for it - 20 of the 30 governors would have to approve it - the changes that would take effect next season could be approved at a board meeting during the NHL All-Star Game festivities in Dallas in late January.

Sources tell TSN the proposal includes the following:

* A reduction in the number of divisions from six to four. There would still be an Eastern Conference and a Western Conference, but there would one eight-team division and one seven-team division in each conference.
* The top two teams in each division would be guaranteed the top four playoff seeds within the conference with four wild card playoff berths going to the teams with the next highest point totals.
* The four new divisions would be configured primarily along the lines of time zones. The theory is not only would this benefit teams in terms of travel, but could also boost TV ratings because game times in the same time zone would be more favorable.
* The current Northeast Division (Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Buffalo and Boston) would remain intact and add two other teams to form a seven-team division. Sources say Pittsburgh is one of those teams that would join the Northeast teams.
* The current Atlantic Division (the three New York area teams plus Philadelphia) would be melded together with four teams from the current Southeast Division (all but one of Washington, Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa Bay and Florida).
* The eight-team division in the Western Conference would feature all teams in Pacific or Mountain time zones (Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose, Colorado and Phoenix).
* The seven-team division in the Western Conference would feature teams that are in either the Central or Eastern time zones.
* As for the schedule, it is said to be a little more complicated than it currently is, because of the uneven number of teams in the divisions, but each team will apparently play its division rivals six times each and its conference rivals either three or four times each and non-conference teams once each.
* The discussion paper teams received today includes Columbus flipping conferences with the Atlanta Thrashers.
* Columbus would join the Penguins in the Northeast with Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston and Buffalo.
* Atlanta would leap over to West and take the Blue Jackets place among those in the Central.

The theory is there will be some reduction in travel because of the geographic alignment by time zone, but every team will see every team at least once over the course of the season.



It will be interesting to see what feedback is provided by the various clubs as the schedule has become a hot-button issue with many teams.

"We have not yet been approached by anyone associated with the league regarding switching divisions and conferences," Thrashers GM Don Waddell said in a statement. "Therefore, we'll defer to the league and will not comment until the appropriate time.

"I will say that our organization is pleased with the current situation and our alignment in the Eastern Conference."

Im thinking there is an expansion in the works...

Mtbrncofn
12-22-2006, 07:44 PM
I agree, leave the damn sweaters alone.

Good Lord, I hope there's no expansion, it's contraction we need here, not more teams! And that division thing is about wacky.

24champ
12-23-2006, 05:18 AM
I agree, leave the damn sweaters alone.

Good Lord, I hope there's no expansion, it's contraction we need here, not more teams! And that division thing is about wacky.

I disagree with the contraction notion, but there are alot of interested billionares looking to bring an NHL franchise to their cities such as Hartford and some city outside of toronto ( the name escapes me) and Im basing this off of those that wanted to buy the Pens. I actually agree on the division proposal, just one condition though, name the divisions Smythe, Norris, Patrick, Adams and name the Conferences Prince of Whales and the Clarence Campbell conference like it used to be. Im sick and tired of the NHL screwing everything up by focusing on the little **** like what the players look like.

Bronx33
12-23-2006, 12:01 PM
Bettman (how f***** hard is it to listen to the players?

Bronx33
12-23-2006, 12:58 PM
Mini-Bertuzzi alert! Anyone else catch the cheap shot Scott Nichol landed on Jaro Spacek's face? That was a cheap one.

He deserves a suspension for that.


He got nine games to think about it.


NHL-Suspended Nashville F Scott Nichol nine games for a blind-side punch to the head of Buffalo D Jaroslav Spacek in a Dec. 21 game.

Bronx33
12-23-2006, 01:20 PM
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061223/COL08/612230331/1048/SPORTS

The ugly NBA fight last weekend between the Nuggets and Knicks brought up many questions, and one of them is this:

Where is the comparable moral outrage when similar melees erupt in hockey?

The NBA has swallowed the NHL whole when it comes to television exposure and media coverage. There could be a mass riot at an NHL game and few would notice because only the truly faithful are paying attention to the still-struggling league.

And even their patience is thinning.

The post-lockout honeymoon is over. The loyal diehards are turning away.

Gate receipts, hockey's financial lifeblood, are down. National television numbers are nonexistent. Even here in America's self-anointed Hockeytown, buzz has been replaced with more of a dispassionate snore. Despite the offense-friendly rule changes, scoring is down this year.Is this some residual Tigers fatigue? Or is Detroit becoming more of a basketball town?

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman might consider ditching the unbalanced schedule that results in the Wings playing the fabled Columbus Blue Jackets, what was it, six times this week? Even the most ardent Wings aficionado can take only so much of the St. Louis Blues over an extended period.

The NHL has made several missteps over the last two years. But the biggest mistake is that Bettman didn't do whatever it took to renew the NHL's relationship with ESPN after the lockout -- even if it meant paying the network for a limited schedule.

The communications monolith dictates the primary sports talking points of the day through its extensive television, radio and Internet services. And it will happily steer the discussion to sports properties with which it holds broadcast rights.

That's why it's all NFL and NBA at this time of year.

T.O. spits. Carmelo slaps. And it's all anybody talks about because it's all that anybody sees.

The NHL can't fight its way into the spotlight. Hockey would love a controversy that's debated and dissected in newspapers and chat rooms or on talk radio because it would at least prove the sport is still in the room.

It's outrageous that a regular-season matchup between the game's two biggest young guns -- Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby and Washington's Alexander Ovechkin -- garnered only a 0.2 national TV rating earlier this month on Versus.

That's the equivalent of roughly 150,000 households nationwide.

Nobody watched because nobody knew it was even on television. Had the game been on ESPN, the network would have created a significant buildup to the matchup. It would have drilled home the point that viewers shouldn't miss a chance to see the next generation of hockey greatness.

That's how awareness is created. That's how a fan base is stimulated and expanded.

But magnified exposure equals magnified attention -- positive and negative. Maybe the apologists screaming about a racial double standard in how NBA fights are portrayed by the media as opposed to NHL ones should try to see what really prompted so much coverage in this instance.

It was celebrity -- the celebrity of the NBA players involved in the fight, and the celebrity of the sport itself. The NBA now dwarfs the NHL so much, there's little breathing room left for hockey's beauty, and even less for its blemishes.

The NHL would love to have people talking about a good, old-fashioned hockey fight because at least people would be talking about the NHL.

24champ
12-23-2006, 03:32 PM
Bettman (how ****** hard is it to listen to the players?

he can't he has his head so far up his ass and walking backwards and taking the game with him. We need a new commish.

Breck Bronc
12-24-2006, 04:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1MsRmA7mAY&mode=related&search=

I was doing some fight watching at youtube and during this non-descript fight between Oli Jokinen and Brad Richards there's a great comment about Todd Bertuzzi at the 9 second mark.

Mtbrncofn
12-24-2006, 04:48 PM
He got nine games to think about it.


NHL-Suspended Nashville F Scott Nichol nine games for a blind-side punch to the head of Buffalo D Jaroslav Spacek in a Dec. 21 game.

Well deserved too. I'm actually shocked they came down that hard on him. Way to go.

Pendejo
12-24-2006, 10:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1MsRmA7mAY&mode=related&search=

I was doing some fight watching at youtube and during this non-descript fight between Oli Jokinen and Brad Richards there's a great comment about Todd Bertuzzi at the 9 second mark.

Bertuzzi has been running people down from behind for years. So it was a very apropos comment by the head. Aside from his most famous pearl harbor job he's also taken out Barret Jackman, and some dude from Minnesota who's name escapes me.

It's funny that a guy his size is such a pvssy b!tch.

Bronx33
12-25-2006, 06:04 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12242006/sports/give_us_back_our_old_game_sports_larry_brooks.htm? page=0

TAMPA - There you have it; there, right there, that single sen tence of propaganda is the smoking gun. It captures all of the arrogance and all of the ignorance of the Gang on Sixth Avenue. These suits truly believe they invented the league. These suits think hockey began when they broke the NHLPA, instituted the hard salary cap and introduced the Sixth Avenue League.

These are the Grinches who have stolen hockey. These are the people who not only have no regard or respect for the history and heritage of the league - which, Ms. Mansur, began operations in 1917 and not 2005, and is in its 89th season, not second - but spend every waking moment attempting to eradicate any connection between this game and these players and the great tradition established long ago by the hockey warriors who came before.

They don't think they can sell the great game of hockey to the masses that have no connection to the game, so they instead present a pre-fabricated spin-off in an attempt to drive ratings. They have come up with "Joey" rather than "Friends," and instead of driving ratings, they are driving away the hard-core, longtime fan who craves passion, confrontation, and yes, even a fight or two between bitter rivals, but instead are presented with an endless succession of indecipherable penalty calls, parades to the box, and exchanges of power plays.

The hard cap was supposed to solve everything, remember? But now there is the fiasco in Pittsburgh with the Imperial Commissioner desperately attempting to keep the Penguins from relocating to Canada, even if he doesn't care if they move anywhere in the United States.

The hard cap was supposed to solve everything, remember? But Slap Shots has been told there are serious financial issues within the Nashville ownership group. Indeed, according to a pair of sources, the Predators may soon become a candidate for relocation to Kansas City.

The hard cap was supposed to solve everything, remember? But now it's the schedule that's supposedly to blame for pockets of empty seats just about everywhere, so the league might dramatically realign again.

The hard cap was supposed to solve everything, remember? But instead of tickets becoming more affordable, as the Imperial Commissioner pledged, they have become more expensive.

The hard cap was supposed to solve everything, remember? But now there's still not enough scoring and the nets might have to be enlarged.

The hard cap was supposed to solve everything, remember? But now they're even going ahead and changing the uniforms for next year. The uniforms!

Gary Bettman and his gang on Sixth Avenue would rather have Sidney Crosby wearing that eyesore new uniform of a small-market team in the States than of any team in Canada because Bettman - or his crack marketing and PR executives who have done their jobs so well- thinks that's the way to best capitalize on this remarkable teenager.

Bettman doesn't get it. The history of the NHL - the history that began in 1917 and not last year - is one of marquee and dynastic teams and of snarling rivalries. People wanted to see the Rocket, but they went to watch the Canadiens. People were drawn to Mike Bossy, but they went to see the Islanders. Bobby Orr was the greatest ever, but people went to see the Big Bad Bruins. Wayne Gretzky had star power like no other hockey player before or since, but people wanted to see the Oilers. Through the late '90s, people wanted to see the Red Wings and the Avalanche.

Mike Babcock, coach of the Red Wings, was talking the other day about how the NHL needs to find the way to sell the game to the mainstream fan, and he mentioned the Yankees and Red Sox as examples of why baseball is so popular. Sam Flood of NBC was talking about how ratings would be helped if New York and Detroit could go deep into the Stanley Cup playoffs.

But the collective bargaining agreement and punitive hard cap is meant to prevent teams like the Yankees and Red Sox from existing. The gang on Sixth Avenue doesn't believe in marquee teams and they don't believe in the power of big markets.

They think the league is in its sophomore season. They are the Grinches who have stolen hockey. It is past time they give it back.

Mtbrncofn
12-26-2006, 12:41 PM
Nice column there. Bettman, are you listening?

Pendejo
12-27-2006, 02:20 PM
Just a heads up for people who don't get the game on t.v.

The AVS/stars game will be streamed on yahoo tonight.

Mtbrncofn
12-29-2006, 02:34 AM
I don't know why this strikes me as so funny, but Gagne's picture on NHL.com looks like he could be a double for someone in the nearby Amish country. Or maybe even 'Honest Abe' Gagne. Ha!

http://cdn.nhl.com/photos/mugs/8467346.jpg

Bronx33
12-29-2006, 03:21 PM
IT COMITH!

http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/2006/12/its_time_for_bo.html

A number of factors have contributed to a super-slow season of trading thus far in the NHL, with the restrictions of the salary cap system probably the No. 1 reason.

But, with the league's Christmas roster freeze over, you have to believe action will start to heat up heading towards the trade deadline.

That deadline, don't forget, has been moved up this year to Feb. 27, a full 10 days earlier in the schedule compared to last season.

Between injuries and tight races, however, GMs are starting to get antsy now.

One of the most interesting teams to watch will be the Phoenix Coyotes.

The Desert Dogs have had a decent December under Wayne Gretzky, with a win in San Jose on Thursday night bumping them to 4-4-2 in their last 10 games.

Still, the Coyotes sit eight points out of a playoff berth and skate out of the very tough Pacific Division.

So, even if Gretzky keeps them going in a better fashion than was the case earlier this year, you have to believe Phoenix will be a seller this winter.

And they have some things to sell, including unrestricted free-agents-in-waiting Shane Doan, Ladislav Nagy and Mike Comrie.

Doan, a 30-year-old power forward, would obviously be the most cherished commodity, although his goal against the Sharks on Thursday was only his seventh of the season.

At $3.4 million a year he's not crazy expensive, and he was a 30-goal shooter last year and a member of the Canadian Olympic team.

If Phoenix GM Mike Barnett chooses to move Doan, he's a player who could theoretically make a Butch Goring-like impact for a playoff team.

Imagine, for example, how Doan could change the look of a smallish Montreal Canadiens squad that's already looking very impressive these days and has excess youth - Canadian junior goalie Carey Price, Kyle Chipchura, Andrei Kostitsyn - to make a move.

If the Coyotes could put together that kind of a deal and then draft high next June, the Barnett-Gretzky program would get a huge boost.

Proving the best deals are usually the ones you have to wait for, meanwhile, you have to wonder if Maple Leafs GM John Ferguson would have fared better in doing a deal with Mikael Tellqvist if he'd been able to hold out a bit longer.

Anaheim is in desperate straits right now, having to make a deal to acquire goalie Sebastien Caron from Chicago to add some depth after losing Michael Leighton on waivers and seeing both Jean-Sebastien Giguere and Ilya Bryzgalov go down with groin problems.

Going into Friday night's game in Raleigh, the Ducks were prepared to go with Michael Wall, formerly the minor-league backup to Leighton, and ECHL callup David McKee, although they were hoping Bryzgalov might be ready to return.

Maybe Tellqvist would have been an enticing commodity for the Ducks, who have also lost defenceman Francois Beauchemin with a lacerated spleen.

Columbus, meanwhile, was just getting into the playoff hunt when Pascal LeClaire was lost for a month or more. Fredrik Norrena certainly looked less than terrific in giving up seven to the Red Wings on Thursday.

Then there's the Leafs themselves, of course, a team currently and understandably dissatisfied with the work of goalies Andrew Raycroft and Jean-Sebastien Aubin.

Tellqvist's .902 save percentage, after all, is not only better than that of Phoenix teammate Curtis Joseph, it's better than either of the Leaf goaltenders these days.

Mtbrncofn
01-02-2007, 05:30 PM
So I wonder how losing Pronger will affect the Ducks?

Pendejo
01-03-2007, 02:41 AM
So I wonder how losing Pronger will affect the Ducks?

I don't know Mt. I guess he'll be out about 4 weeks or so. I think they'll try to bring someone in...but they won't over pay. Personal feelings aside...Burke is clearly a pretty good GM.

Cripes. Remember a few years ago when Pronger had that terrible wrist injury...there were rumblings that his career might be over. The nasty son of a b!tch is better than ever.

Jens1893
01-03-2007, 10:15 AM
Those "NHL Players are just like you and me" commercials are very funny.

Mtbrncofn
01-03-2007, 10:48 PM
I don't know Mt. I guess he'll be out about 4 weeks or so. I think they'll try to bring someone in...but they won't over pay. Personal feelings aside...Burke is clearly a pretty good GM.

Cripes. Remember a few years ago when Pronger had that terrible wrist injury...there were rumblings that his career might be over. The nasty son of a b!tch is better than ever.

I was thinking the same thing. It does seem like he's better than before.

Mtbrncofn
01-03-2007, 10:49 PM
Those "NHL Players are just like you and me" commercials are very funny.

I agree. I like them. The video game one with the Lecavalier cracks me up.

Mtbrncofn
01-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Huh, apparently the Ducks already moved on picking up a cheap defenseman.

Taken from Fanhome:

ANAHEIM, Calif. – The Anaheim Ducks announced today that the National Hockey League (NHL) club has acquired defenseman Ric Jackman from the Florida Panthers in exchange for a conditional draft pick in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft. The Ducks also announced that they have reassigned defenseman Aaron Rome to Portland, Anaheim’s primary development affiliate in the American Hockey League (AHL).

Mtbrncofn
01-08-2007, 04:51 PM
Here's some great freakin news for us Avs fans.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=767


Colorado Avalanche defenseman John-Michael Liles will be sidelined approximately four weeks with a broken left foot. Liles suffered the injury in the first period of Saturday night’s game in Minnesota.

Liles, 26, ranks fourth among NHL defensemen in goals this season with 10 and is tied for 12th in scoring with 29 points. He is the first defenseman to score 10 or more goals in each of his first three NHL seasons since Steve Duchesne from 1986-87 to 1988-89.

Kid A
01-08-2007, 05:13 PM
Here's some great freakin news for us Avs fans.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=767


Colorado Avalanche defenseman John-Michael Liles will be sidelined approximately four weeks with a broken left foot. Liles suffered the injury in the first period of Saturday night’s game in Minnesota.

Liles, 26, ranks fourth among NHL defensemen in goals this season with 10 and is tied for 12th in scoring with 29 points. He is the first defenseman to score 10 or more goals in each of his first three NHL seasons since Steve Duchesne from 1986-87 to 1988-89.

That ****ing blows. Hope Wolski, Sakic, and Co. are ready to score 6 goals a night.

Bronx33
01-09-2007, 05:58 PM
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/ilitch_celebrates_yzerman_desecrates_aurie/

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/images/uploads/L8_thumb.jpg

[Images scattered throughout this article can be clicked on for enlargement. A great collection of clippings and memorabilia.]

On Tuesday, Jan. 2, Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch celebrated the storied, magnificent career of his long-time All-Star captain and center Steve Yzerman by retiring his jersey number 19, hanging it high into the rafters of Joe Louis Arena.

But as Ilitch celebrated the career of Yzerman with a spectacular ceremony, he simultaneously and purposefully desecrated the career of one of the Detroit’s earliest and true hockey heroes – right wing Larry Aurie.

Aurie, a fearless and talented right wing, played for Detroit from 1927 through 1939. Through his tireless, selfless play, he thoroughly impressed then-owner James Norris. In fact, Norris’ admiration of Aurie motivated him to retire Aurie’s jersey No. 6 in 1938. Aurie became the first-ever Red Wing to be honored in this manner

However, Norris did not hang any Aurie banner in the rafters at Olympia Stadium – it was not his custom. In the 1960’s, he did authorize a display of Aurie’s jersey in the lobby at Olympia Stadium. The display, which also included a photo and plaque describing Aurie’s career, was eventually removed from the lobby, and the jersey was thought to be the one later shipped to Toronto and the one currently on display at the Hockey Hall of Fame.

When Gordie Howe’s number 9 was retired in 1972 by then-owner Bruce Norris - James’ son, Howe’s number 9 was similarly not hung from the rafters. When Alex Delvecchio retired from the Red Wings in 1974, Norris also retired his jersey No. 10. Again, no jersey-raising ceremony. (Note: Delvecchio’s No. 10 was re-activated in 1977 when the number was requested and received by first-overall draft pick Dale McCourt, who wanted to honor his uncle George Armstrong by wearing the number Armstrong wore during his Hall of Fame career with Toronto).

Ilitch purchased the Wings from Norris in 1982, and began the practice of displaying retired jersey numbers from the rafters at Joe Louis Arena, beginning with Howe soon after he gained ownership. Ilitch next retired Ted Lindsay’s No. 7 and re-retiring Delvecchio’s No. 10 on the same day – Nov. 10, 1991. Terry Sawchuk’s No. 1 was next to the JLA rafters (March 6, 1994) and Sid Abel’s No. 12 followed on April 29, 1995.

One by one, Ilitch raised banners for these “Heroes of Hockeytown”. But he forgot to invite the first jersey retirement honoree – Larry Aurie – to any of the parties. He has simply and inexplicably refused to hang Aurie’s retired jersey with the others so honored, although he has not chosen to issue the number to another player.

But Ilitch did not stop the snub there. He has also acted to have his name removed from the records permanently, apparently feeling that he actually has the right to change and shape the history of the franchise.

imageIn 1975, when the Official NHL Guide and Record Book began listing retired numbers, three numbers were listed by Detroit - Aurie’s No. 6, Howe’s 9 and Delvecchio’s 10. For the 2000-01 season, Ilitch authorized the league to remove Aurie’s name from the guide’s list!

Over the years, Aurie family members have expressed anger and frustration by the Ilitch snub and act of “numeric cleansing”. Cummy Burton, Aurie’s cousin and the only player since Aurie to wear No. 6, has become one of the more vocal of the clan.

“At that time (1938), they didn’t raise the sweaters into the rafters,” said Burton in 1997 at age 60, from his home in Sudbury, Ont. “It was retired by Mr. Norris. When Larry died, they brought the jersey on the ice and had a moment of silence.

“Not hanging up Larry’s number would be compared to the Yankees’ not retiring Lou Gehrig’s number,” said Burton, “Just because he was from the 1930’s and now forgotten just because it’s all old stuff now. It’s like saying that war heroes don’t mean anything, just because they’re not around anymore.

“If this guy (Wings owner Ilitch) has got any moxie, he’ll honor the request of his predecessor (Norris). Aurie and players from his time were a beginning of a great franchise history. He should be recognized.”

Burton also recalled that “the best tribute paid to Larry was when someone once asked Jack Adams to compare a young Gordie Howe to Larry.

“When Howe was starting out (in 1946), a newspaper reporter asked Adams, ‘How do you compare Howe to Larry Aurie?’ At that time, they were using Larry Aurie as the talent gauge.”

There were many reasons for James Norris to be enamored with Aurie’s play.

Aurie’s first NHL season - 1927-28 - was the second for the Detroit franchise, then known as the Cougars. New coach and general manager Jack Adams’ first transaction was drafting Aurie out of junior hockey in London, Ont.

Adams scouted Aurie as a fiery competitor who excelled despite a size disadvantage (5-6, 148). Aurie was both a deft scorer and great puck-handler - earning the nickname `The Little Rag Man’ for his crowd-pleasing ability to ‘rag’ the puck while killing penalties. He was highly respected throughout the league.

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Adams always included Aurie on his top lines. In 1928, Adams’ top line was Aurie, Carson Cooper and George Hay. In 1929 and ‘30, it was Aurie, Cooper and Herbie Lewis. It was Aurie, Ebbie Goodfellow and Herbie Lewis in ‘31, Aurie, Goodfellow and Hec Kilrea in ’32, Aurie, Lewis and Johnny Sorrell in ’33, Aurie, Lewis and Carl Voss in the ’33 playoffs, and Aurie, Lewis and Cooney Weiland in ’34 and ‘35.

Finally, in 1936, Adams made the right connection in placing center Marty Barry with Aurie and Lewis. As Detroit’s 1930’s “Production Line”, they led the team to its first Stanley Cups ever, in 1936 and ‘37.

Aside from being one of the team’s offensive catalysts, Aurie was also often double-shifted as the team’s best defensive forward. He also had the tiresome duty of defusing their opponents’ top line, killed penalties routinely and was an intimidating physical presence in spite of his size - thus earning his other nickname: “Little Sampson”.

A testament to Aurie’s talent lies in the fact that he and Lewis were selected to play in the first NHL All-Star game in 1934. The game was a benefit for Toronto’s injured player Ace Bailey.

Despite the routine defensive duties, Aurie was still able to score at least 12 goals in nine of 11 full seasons (44-to 48-game seasons). He captained the team in 1932-33 and led the league in playoff scoring in 1934 with 10 points in nine games.

Aurie finished 11th in league scoring in 1934 with 16 goals and 35 points, third in 1935 with 17 goals and 46 points, 12th in 1936 with 16 goals and 34 points, and finished fourth in the league with 23 goals and 43 points in 1937 despite missing the final four games of the season after sustaining a broken ankle. That season, Aurie named first team NHL All-Star at right wing.

According to Charles L. Coleman in his book “The Trail of the Stanley Cup, Volume 2”, the Red Wings’ decline in 1937-38 was largely due to Aurie’s ankle injury. Coleman wrote that “Aurie had not recovered the form he had before breaking his ankle ... Without a healthy Aurie, the team collapsed”.

The hobbled Aurie retired after the 1938 season. And team owner Norris honored his favorite player by retiring Aurie’s uniform number 6. Aurie was then named coach of the AHL’s Pittsburgh Hornets, the Wings’ top farm club, but made one more NHL curtain call with Detroit on Dec. 25, 1938, when the parent team was experiencing a rash of injuries. Aurie responded in “Aurie form” – scoring the winning goal in a 3-1 win over the Montreal Canadiens at Detroit.

Aurie’s teammates have also taken the time to chime in support for their forgotten comrade.

“Larry was a big cog in the wheel of our first championship teams”, said teammate Pete Kelly, reached at his home in Fredericton, New Brunswick. “He was on our production line’ and was a key to those championships.”

imageJohnny Mowers, a talented Wings goalie from the early 1940’s, echoed Burton’s sentiments when asked about Aurie in May, 1995. “He was a great favorite of Adams, probably one of the best hockey players in the league at that time. When he quit playing, Adams did retire the number, saying that no one else would wear it. You know in those days, they did not hang up the number into the rafters like they do now.”

“All I knew was that Jack Adams really admired him and didn’t want anyone else to wear the jersey,” said Wings Hall of Fame center Alex Delvecchio in 1997.

“Jack Adams said he was great, and he knew great talent. I agree that Adams had retired it. But my thoughts are that Adams probably was too wrapped up in winning hockey games to hang jerseys from the rafters.”

Aurie, incidentally, was Delvecchio’s coach in junior hockey in Oshawa, Ont. in the late 1940’s. “We all looked up to him in awe. No doubt that he had alot of inspiration in my career.”

Carl Liscombe was another Red Wings star influenced greatly by Aurie. Liscombe played nine seasons with Detroit - his first in 1937-38 on a line with Aurie.

“You know, Larry was the one who got me to come to Detroit from playing junior hockey in Galt, Ont.,” said Liscombe in 1997. “I played with Larry for a year, but the team was breaking up at that point. Their line was getting old, so Adams put me on his line.”

Liscombe also recalled that “It was absolutely definite that Aurie’s number was retired. Norris liked him real well.”

There is much published proof supporting Norris’ acting to retire Aurie’s number. Numerous newspaper clippings documenting the number’s retirement were preserved by Dorothy Sleeth, Aurie’s sister-in-law who resided in Richmond, Ont. until her death in 2001.

One such clipping shows a photo of Delvecchio admiring the jersey, when it began being displayed in its Olympia display in 1962.

Other supportive artifacts include the cover of the New Year’s Eve 1962 Red Wings program whose cover shows Red Wings teammate Val Fontayne and Marcel Pronovost standing in full uniform in front of the Aurie Olympia display. Fontayne’s number incidentally was No. 19!

In Dec. 1952, an article appeared in the Red Wing Hockey Magazine – the Wings’ game program at the time. The article was written to eulogize both Aurie and Norris, who had also died in Dec. 1952 just prior to Aurie’s death. It read: “It was, perhaps, merciful that Mr. Norris was spared the sudden, shocking, and untimely passing of Larry Aurie.

“Larry was one of Mr. Norris’ favorite players. That was manifested when Aurie’s jersey, bearing number six, was retired from the active numbers when Larry left the Red Wing lineup for the last time.

“Perhaps, much of the admiration which Norris held for Larry lay in Aurie’s type. He was a typical Red Wing. A great two-way hockey player, he continually battled the handicap of size to become the first Detroit forward to ever win All-Star recognition from the league. He was a unanimous choice for the original Detroit Hall of Hockey Fame and the first member of it to die.

“Typical of Aurie was the fact that after he left the Wings to assume a player-coaches’ role at Pittsburgh (AHL), he was called back to Detroit for a one-night performance to help a loss-ridden, injury-riddled team. Larry scored the winning goal.

“Thus, two men from two poles of the hockey world have passed beyond us. In each, we are the losers.”

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Armed with my Aurie file of documentation, I met on separate occasions with Marian Ilitch and Denise Ilitch to possibly enlighten them to the omission of Aurie from the JLA rafters. When handed the documentation, both Marian and Denise seemed impressed and each expressed interest in looking into the matter more closely. Each mentioned taking the information back to discuss with other family members. But that’s where things ended with them, as they never took any further action - at least in a positive direction...I’ll get to that later.

I also spoke to Wings senior vice president Jim Devellano in 1997, who said that the team was reluctant to hang the jersey because Aurie was not a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame. I explained to Devellano that many NHL retired numbers are of players not in the Hall of Fame, and the fact remained that Aurie’s number was already retired, and should join the other retired numbers in the JLA rafters, regardless of whether or not he was a Hall of Fame member. Devellano listened intently, but repeated his “company line” and stated that the jersey would only be kept out of circulation, not hung in the rafters.

Devellano’s response did present a challenge to the family, which involved attempting at get Aurie nominated to the Hockey Hall of Fame ballot. In 1997, the Hall inducted only Wayne Gretzky upon his retirement after that season. In 1998, however, Aurie was successfully nominated for Hall of Fame consideration, and were confident that the committee would select Aurie. After much debate, Aurie finished a close second to Charlie Conacher in the voting.

The following year, the Hockey Hall of Fame inducted Mario Lemieux in the same solo fashion as was extended to Gretzky in 1997, and then took an unfortunate step backwards by declaring that no other “old-time” candidates would ever be allowed to be nominated again. Thus, another door was slammed on the Aurie family’s noble efforts.

Troubled by the Ilitch family’s cold response toward the Aurie situation, I and a handful of “Friends of Larry Aurie” - including Aurie’s grand niece and other family members - took to Woodward Avenue in Dec. 1999, busily distributing Aurie literature in the freezing cold in front of the Hockeytown Cafe… on a public sidewalk… with police permission.

Sadly and surprisingly, Ilitch tried to have us arrested, while we were very simply exercising our right to free speech. His security people continuously harrassed us, and finally succeeded in convincing the police to ask us to leave.

The police threatened to arrest the grand niece near the Hockeytown Café’s front door, and she left the scene sobbing, visibly shaken with her spirit all but broken by the surprising and disturbing intimidation exhibited by Ilitch that night.

One Olympia Entertainment security person confided to me that Ilitch was indeed trying to have us arrested, saying that he felt we were hurting his business and bothering Hockeytown and Fox Theatre patrons.

That night, Mike Ilitch failed to have us arrested. But the Ilitch family decided to act the following season - in a very unfortunate way.

Before the 2000-01 NHL season, during the launching of the Wings’ “Heroes of Hockeytown” campaign for the team’s 75th anniversary, the Ilitches authorized the removal of Aurie’s No. 6 from the list of Wings’ retired numbers in the 2000-01 NHL Guide. They acted in direct defiance of the wishes of former owner James Norris and, in their minds, un-retired the number! What they accomplished with the desecration of the Aurie name and his proud Detroit hockey legacy.

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Aurie is indeed a true “Hero of Hockeytown”, but he is without the medal he is entitled to, since Ilitch refused to honor the actions and wishes of then-owner James Norris in 1938.

Two days after the Yzerman Jersey Night, I spoke by telephone to a couple of Aurie family members who expresses much quiet sorrow while viewing to the Yzerman ceremony on CBC television. An uncle and cousin each spoke in somber tones regarding the continued Aurie snub by the Ilitches. Each still holds onto the hope that a day will come when Aurie’s jersey will take its rightful place in the JLA rafters.

The obvious action for the Ilitches would be to give Aurie his due by hanging No. 6 at Joe Louis Arena. Anything less, like their present attitude toward the subject, is totally disrespectful and unacceptable.

Mtbrncofn
01-11-2007, 01:15 AM
From TSN:

Notes: Winger Alex Tanguay says he's a little anxious and a little nervous to go to Colorado for the first time since being traded from the Avalanche last June. The teams were to play on December 21st but the game was postponed due to a heavy snowstorm.

Awesome news to hear.
Phil Kessel, who underwent surgery Dec. 11 for testicular cancer, played in his first game since Dec. 9, skating on a fourth line with wingers Petr Tenkrat and Stanislav Chistov.

Mtbrncofn
01-11-2007, 10:11 PM
What a beaut of a goal by Stastny!

Jori
01-12-2007, 12:14 AM
Words cannot describe as to how putrid the Avs were defensively tonight.

Mtbrncofn
01-12-2007, 12:36 AM
It was shameful, that's for sure. I've never seen so many odd man breaks.

alkemical
01-12-2007, 09:59 AM
You know, i think i'd trade malkin and keep staal

Bronx33
01-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Words cannot describe as to how putrid the Avs were defensively tonight.

4 weeks until liles returns :oyvey: his absents obviously showed right away.

Mtbrncofn
01-12-2007, 04:35 PM
Did anyone else catch McNab's comments last night on Bonds? Hysterical. He called him the worst human being on the planet. Ha!

Bronx33
01-12-2007, 04:42 PM
Did anyone else catch McNab's comments last night on Bonds? Hysterical. He called him the worst human being on the planet. Ha!


It's true, bonds is a first class idiot.

Mtbrncofn
01-12-2007, 04:55 PM
Oh I know, I'm what most would call a VERY casual baseball fan. I keep up on it a bit. I think Bonds is a waste of space too. When the thing came out the other day, I was incredulous. What a pussy! My kids take more blame than he does and they're kids!

It was just hysterical to hear McNab. He was just shocked that someone could do something like that to a teammate.

24champ
01-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Check this out from the Bellowing Moose column at the NBC hockey site:


"Evgeni Malkin is the consensus pick here, but the Moose hates conventional wisdom (“Crash” wins best picture? Please.) That’s why we’re once again going west and picking L.A.’s Anze Kopitar, who’s been every bit as good as Malkin without the hype."

SoCalBronco
01-12-2007, 09:25 PM
Check this out from the Bellowing Moose column at the NBC hockey site:


"Evgeni Malkin is the consensus pick here, but the Moose hates conventional wisdom (“Crash” wins best picture? Please.) That’s why we’re once again going west and picking L.A.’s Anze Kopitar, who’s been every bit as good as Malkin without the hype."

How do they come to the "every bit as good" conclusion?

He's good, but he's no Malkin.

Malkin has 41 points in 38 games.

Kopitar has 39 points in 45 games.

How is that even roughly equal?

24champ
01-13-2007, 04:57 AM
How do they come to the "every bit as good" conclusion?

He's good, but he's no Malkin.

Malkin has 41 points in 38 games.

Kopitar has 39 points in 45 games.

How is that even roughly equal?

Clearly Kopitar plays on a team with not as much talent as the Pens have, Kopitar doesn't have a bunch of first overall draft pick players to play with. Thats how Moose arrived to that conclusion. Early this season Malkin was projected to net between 80-100 points, while kopitar was estimated at 40 points. Malkin was supposed to have the Calder in the bag, so everyone is impressed by this kid who is making a great season without having the benefit of even a consistent line. If Kopitar played with a consistent line he would have more points. I have been raving about Kopitar before this season even began, I'm sure some on this board rolled their eyes when I said Kopitar will be a super star in this league. Malkin is good but he's no Kopitar.

;D
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Pendejo
01-13-2007, 05:19 AM
Words cannot describe as to how putrid the Avs were defensively tonight.

They're slow, and passive in their own end. It's the opposite in their attacking zone.

This team is lazy, and has no heart. If they did...whether you like it or not...at a little over the halfway point of the season at least one Av other than Lappy would have a fighting major. Has Laperierre ever won a fight?

This team has no grit. They can score...but they don't clamp down...after a big goal they fold. I have never seen an Avalanche team turn the puck over in their own end with the regularity as this year's squad.

To be a good defensive team in the NHL you need three things. 1)Discipline. 2) Heart. 3) A stomach full of bad intentions. This Avs team has none of the above in their own end.

Pendejo
01-13-2007, 05:24 AM
How do they come to the "every bit as good" conclusion?

He's good, but he's no Malkin.

Malkin has 41 points in 38 games.

Kopitar has 39 points in 45 games.

How is that even roughly equal?

Not only that...but both Stastny, and Wolski are breathing down Kopitar's neck in the rookie points race. Both of them have played fewer games as well.

SoCalBronco
01-13-2007, 03:32 PM
Clearly Kopitar plays on a team with not as much talent as the Pens have, Kopitar doesn't have a bunch of first overall draft pick players to play with. Thats how Moose arrived to that conclusion. .


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We do not have alot of talent, so thats a wrong assumption. We have ZERO NHL top 2 line caliber wingers...ZERO. Recchi is 90 years old and routinely sucks, Malone can't keep his dick in his pants long enough to work on his hockey game, Armstrong is AHL caliber, so is Christensen, Ekman is a very inaccurate shooter, there is no one to help Malkin unless he is playing with Sid. Staal is better defensively than offensively. You say "all these first overall picks", we only have two, Sid and the Flower. Our other first rounders were defensive players who are busts, like Whitney, who cant play defense worth **** and is just offense, he's basically Gonchar Jr which isnt a good thing. Caps fans call him "Whitney Spears" for spearing AO last year but I think that nickname fits Ryan perfectly on a number of fronts. The other first rounder was Orpik, who has nothing between his ears and just likes to hit, he has no concept of positioning and seems to go out of his way to get sent to the box.

To say Malkin is playing with "alot more talent" is not only a flat out lie, but its also a joke. When he isnt playing on Sid's line, he's playing with AHLers.

Mtbrncofn
01-13-2007, 04:13 PM
This is one heck of a chippy game betwen the Flyers and Pens.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-13-2007, 04:23 PM
We do not have alot of talent, so thats a wrong assumption. We have ZERO NHL top 2 line caliber wingers...ZERO. Recchi is 90 years old and routinely sucks, Malone can't keep his dick in his pants long enough to work on his hockey game, Armstrong is AHL caliber, so is Christensen, Ekman is a very inaccurate shooter, there is no one to help Malkin unless he is playing with Sid. Staal is better defensively than offensively. You say "all these first overall picks", we only have two, Sid and the Flower. Our other first rounders were defensive players who are busts, like Whitney, who cant play defense worth **** and is just offense, he's basically Gonchar Jr which isnt a good thing. Caps fans call him "Whitney Spears" for spearing AO last year but I think that nickname fits Ryan perfectly on a number of fronts. The other first rounder was Orpik, who has nothing between his ears and just likes to hit, he has no concept of positioning and seems to go out of his way to get sent to the box.


I'm still totally amazed that with 5 straight years in the Top 5, all the Pens have to show for it are those 5 picks. Nothing from any other picks coming up in the system. Kudos on the quality of those 5 picks though.

SoCalBronco
01-13-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm still totally amazed that with 5 straight years in the Top 5, all the Pens have to show for it are those 5 picks. Nothing from any other picks coming up in the system. Kudos on the quality of those 5 picks though.

We've got some other nice kids in the system, but most of them are defensemen....Welch, Letang, Goligoski etc.

Hogan11
01-13-2007, 04:56 PM
This is one heck of a chippy game betwen the Flyers and Pens.

It's always chippy when those two teams get together.

Long hard year for my Flyers....Boooo.

Bronx33
01-13-2007, 05:23 PM
I watch it and i can say hatcher needs to be sent down the river.

alkemical
01-13-2007, 05:25 PM
On a raft....

broncocalijohn
01-14-2007, 07:06 PM
Huh, apparently the Ducks already moved on picking up a cheap defenseman.

Taken from Fanhome:

ANAHEIM, Calif. – The Anaheim Ducks announced today that the National Hockey League (NHL) club has acquired defenseman Ric Jackman from the Florida Panthers in exchange for a conditional draft pick in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft. The Ducks also announced that they have reassigned defenseman Aaron Rome to Portland, Anaheim’s primary development affiliate in the American Hockey League (AHL).


forgot to announce that Jackman was -4 in his first game and also was on the ice when Predators won in OT a few nights ago. This team misses Pronger big time. Neidenmeyer is playing around 34 minutes in his absence.

Mtbrncofn
01-14-2007, 09:01 PM
The Avs announcers were saying it was closer to 40 minutes a game. That's incredible and seems like they're playing with fire there. Guys get worn down and injured.

Mtbrncofn
01-16-2007, 12:43 AM
Thank God for Budaj. That's all I have to say about that game.

Jens1893
01-17-2007, 11:41 PM
Some ugly, ugly goals in the Preds/Red Wings game ... first Vokoun lets in an absolute howler from Zetterberg and is replaced only for Hasek to return the favor a minute later.

Dead Things won 5-3 with Zetterberg scoring twice.

Bronx33
01-18-2007, 04:22 PM
DALLAS (AP) -Joe Sakic of the Colorado Avalanche and Brendan Shanahan of the New York Rangers will be the captains in the NHL All-Star game Wednesday night.

Sakic, the West captain, will be playing in his 12th All-Star game and his fourth as a starter. He was the MVP of the 2004 game, which is the last one because of the lockout in 2005 and an Olympics break last year.

Shanahan, the East captain, is an All-Star for the eighth time. At 37, he's the oldest player on either squad.

Sakic made his All-Star debut 17 years ago Sunday.

"It's a relaxed environment," he said on a conference call Thursday during which his captaincy was announced. "Guys are having fun, joking around on the ice. I don't think anyone takes it too serious. ... You just talk about your teams, what you've done, see old friends and meet new friends."

The All-Star break begins Sunday. The All-Stars will practice in Dallas on Monday night. The YoungStars game and skills competition will be held Tuesday night.

Mtbrncofn
01-18-2007, 09:26 PM
Way to go, Joe!

Pendejo
01-20-2007, 02:19 PM
There's a new Forsberg to the Avs rumor on spectorshockey.net. It's a real beauty too. I don't think Thomas or Millen would be stupid enough for this one.

"Paul" and "Steve sent in the following: "Just watched 110% (French language sports talk show) and Michel Bergeron claimed that the Avs are going to trade Theodore to Philly in return for Forsberg." "Michel Bergeron said, a close friend of him from colorado (Goulet??) The Avs Could deal Theodore to the Flyers for Forsberg, one for one."

Obviously something like that won't happen...but it sure would help the Avs out a lot.

Bronx33
01-20-2007, 02:52 PM
There's a new Forsberg to the Avs rumor on spectorshockey.net. It's a real beauty too. I don't think Thomas or Millen would be stupid enough for this one.

"Paul" and "Steve sent in the following: "Just watched 110% (French language sports talk show) and Michel Bergeron claimed that the Avs are going to trade Theodore to Philly in return for Forsberg." "Michel Bergeron said, a close friend of him from colorado (Goulet??) The Avs Could deal Theodore to the Flyers for Forsberg, one for one."

Obviously something like that won't happen...but it sure would help the Avs out a lot.




Ha! then we could have somebody (not playing) and counting his money that we like on the team that would chip in productively (when he does play).

Mtbrncofn
01-20-2007, 10:46 PM
There's a new Forsberg to the Avs rumor on spectorshockey.net. It's a real beauty too. I don't think Thomas or Millen would be stupid enough for this one.

"Paul" and "Steve sent in the following: "Just watched 110% (French language sports talk show) and Michel Bergeron claimed that the Avs are going to trade Theodore to Philly in return for Forsberg." "Michel Bergeron said, a close friend of him from colorado (Goulet??) The Avs Could deal Theodore to the Flyers for Forsberg, one for one."

Obviously something like that won't happen...but it sure would help the Avs out a lot.

Bwahahaahhaha. If only......

Bronx33
01-21-2007, 11:44 AM
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/16513144.htm

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The NHL is back and, actually, a much better game than before that nasty work stoppage, which stole a full season.

Scoring is actually up.

Attendance is technically up.

Sponsorship dollars are very much up.

Shhhhh, just nobody mention the gigantic elephant in the room, the one covered in fine print... that nobody seems to care.

Thriving hockey markets such as Dallas are suddenly finding themselves fighting indifference. And what is happening with the Stars isn't an anomaly.

Sidney Crosby -- an honest-to-goodness answer to the long-asked "Who is the next Gretzky?" question -- doesn't seem to capture the imaginations of casual fans.

Neither shootouts (a universal success) nor parity (a chance for every team to really have Stanley Cup aspirations) nor rule changes (fewer traps and more hat tricks) have led fans to spend more time watching, much less embracing hockey.

For all of the improvements, a league that used to sell itself as one of the "four majors" is in danger of becoming one of the "minors." No-shows belie the bloated attendance figures. News outlets cover it briefly, if at all. And the network the NHL calls its American flagship isn't as popular as the Food Channel -- and harder to find on the remote.

What is even more ironic is, amid this madness, NHL execs seem content to act as though "If we do not talk about the problems, they cease to exist," instead of aggressively searching for ways to make fans fall in love with hockey all over again.

Mavs owner Mark Cuban was bang-on when he said the NHL has an identity crisis. What it needs to do is sell what makes hockey great and fix what doesn't.

How is the NHL to know what to do? We talked to players, team execs, broadcasters and generally people who care desperately about the game of hockey for their solutions on how to bring hockey back.

Ken Hitchcock

Columbus coach

When Hitchcock coached the Stars, they were one of the hottest things in town. Stars, Stars and more Stars were what fans wanted. Games were sellouts, and hockey had established a pretty nice niche behind the Cowboys. Nowadays, in many cities games go half sold and hockey fights apathy, Hitch has an idea why: Nobody knows who they are rooting for.

Hitchcock's take: The thing that was the buzz in Dallas, for years, was the personalities of the players and the team. The characters of the game were embraced; [Craig] Ludwig and his shin pads or [Brett] Hull and what would he say next, or [Mike Modano] and when was he going to get married, or [Ed] Belfour and his idiosyncrasies. The players and the drama around the team made it very interesting. We sold ourselves, which, in the end, sold the game of hockey. That is something we should get back to. There is too much coachspeak now, same old, same old. All we talk about is the game, the game, the game, the game, the game. We don't talk about the people in the game.

Mike Modano

Stars center

Modano has been a vocal critic of his sport at times. He also has done more than almost anybody to help sell hockey. And while he likes this improved game, he would like to see Sidney Crosby come to Dallas more than once in a million years.

Modano's take: My biggest beef has been with the scheduling.

Go back to the old one. Play everybody in the East twice; once at home, once on the road. I think people are tired of seeing the Ducks or the Kings or the Sharks every other night. I mean, look at the top 10 scorers. They're all in the East. People never see these guys around here. The best players in the West are the goalies. The public has no understanding of who these guys [in the East] are. I'm talking about guys like Sidney, and [Alexander] Ovechkin and [Martin] St. Louis and [Vincent] Lecavalier. You go to Canada, and Sidney is on TV more than Peyton [Manning] is down here. It's amazing.

Brian Burke

Anaheim general manager

Burke remains somewhat of an anomaly in hockey in that he's willing to talk openly and honestly about his sport (in a sport so desperate for publicity, it's a problem in itself that so few seem willing to talk). He believes hockey needs... a better TV product.

Burke's take: To lose a whole season is pretty drastic and pretty damaging to your fan base. I think we brought them back nicely last year. And I think this game sells itself. My feeling is, if you get a person to buy a ticket once, you can probably get them to come back again. So we got to work on the TV product. We have to give a better TV product to grow the ratings. I think HDTV is going to help immensely... but right now a lot of people do not have HDTV and a lot of the games are not broadcast in HDTV. And that alone is not going to do it. We've got to look at where we put the cameras and put a better product on TV.

Bob McKenzie

The Hockey News editor

McKenzie chuckles when he hears folks talking about what bad shape the game is in, forgetting, of course, the ugly '80s, when teams were swapping cities and nobody was watching. But if McKenzie could go back, he would undo the deal with Versus.

McKenzie's take: The single most important thing for the NHL is to get the game to more people. I don't think you do that overnight. The whole OLN deal, I know why they took it. There was money on the table. That said, there better be strong evidence on the table that says they can grow their viewership. I'm going from hotel to hotel to try to find a game. You can't expect the NHL to increase its base if you can't find the game on TV.

Teemu Selanne

Ducks forward

Selanne is in his 15th NHL season, so he has seen both ends of the NHL spectrum. And if he had a magic wand to wave, he would remake the New York Rangers, Chicago Blackhawks and Los Angels Kings into wildly competitive franchises.

Selanne's take: What I just think we need is for the big markets to have success now. If you look at the teams that won the last couple of years, Tampa and Carolina, they are not big-market teams. They had great teams and they deserved to win. But hockey needs the big franchises in the hockey cities to have success. I think that is the biggest thing.

Daryl Reaugh

Stars TV analyst

"Razor" Reaugh is best known for his witty Razor-isms. He also has plenty of ideas on how to "fix" hockey. A lot of them. Good and crazy ideas, too, about turning ice and boards blue while playing with a fluorescent orange puck and cutting the schedule and removing the netting. But if he were commish for a day, he would also employ a "foreigner" limit.

Reaugh's take: You cannot really fall in love with a league that 78 percent of its players are from a foreign country. If you don't know much about a sport but you know somebody who is in it, you watch. We get hurt by that. There should be a limit on Europeans. You can't tell me that some of the guys playing on fourth lines right now from Scandinavia are that much better than somebody coming out of Omaha, Neb., for the 4-6 minutes a night. Europeans are tough to sell from a marking perspective. Sports directors can't pronounce names so they say, 'We'll cover NASCAR.'

This fan's take

I was a hockey fan long before I was a sports columnist. I remember going to games at the Checkerdome in St. Louis and, later, as a college student, buying partial view tickets at Kiel Center because they were cheaper. I had a poster of Brett Hull hanging on my wall for a good portion of my youth. So I am a P1 for hockey, a loyal and semi-happy customer and, if I were commissioner for a day, I'd get a new commish. Yes, I'd fire Gary Bettman or at least send him away with a golden parachute.

This is the really, really big pink elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about, because Bettman actually did exactly what he was hired to do. He did what lawyers do, breaking the union and bringing financial stability and unparalleled player-owner cooperation to a league in desperate need of both.

What this league needs now is a marketer, somebody who believes in the product, somebody who lives and breathes and loves hockey, somebody not named Bettman.

My vote would be for Mark Cuban. Or Razor. Or both. Whomever the NHL chooses needs to be willing to listen to the Razors and McKenzies and Hitches and, yes, fans like me.

Tredici
01-21-2007, 11:55 AM
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's killing hockey. It's the determined indifference of the major television networks.

The rest of that stuff is mostly hooey. Except the scheduling. Trying to force rivalries by playing every team in the division 40 times is stupid. Why don't they tell the truth? It saves on travel costs.

You don't need big market teams to win the Stanley. Maybe he meant to say Canadian...

I actually like the foreign influence in the NHL. That people don't watch because of that is pure nonsense.

What is hurting the league is a second rate bush league channel like VS and a big boy like ESPN doing everything they can to squash the sport. Thats what I don't understand. The don't have to broadcast the sport but they don't have to have their announcers showing their disdain and indifference.

Marketing is everything. Bettman has no clue.

alkemical
01-21-2007, 11:56 AM
The league has NO idea of how to market itself.

Bronx33
01-21-2007, 01:22 PM
The league has NO idea of how to market itself.




Bettman has no idea you mean hes proven it with allowing the lockout if you ask me the NHL was riding a big wave prior the lockout. The lockout killed the NHL and the casual fan they need to start this cluster**** over and regain those fans lost and they can start by airing games on free (local) TV as it sits right now you have to have cable/Pay to watch your own home games.

Pendejo
01-21-2007, 02:26 PM
Bettman has no idea you mean hes proven it with allowing the lockout if you ask me the NHL was riding a big wave prior the lockout. The lockout killed the NHL and the casual fan they need to start this cluster**** over and regain those fans lost and they can start by airing games on free (local) TV as it sits right now you have to have cable/Pay to watch your own home games.

Just wait. The tight uniforms are going to change everything. Bettman is bringing sexy back.

Bronx33
01-21-2007, 02:30 PM
I agree with addressing the clutching and grabbing but his all angles attack was and is a joke of epic proportions.

Clockwork Orange
01-21-2007, 02:53 PM
The rest of that stuff is mostly hooey. Except the scheduling. Trying to force rivalries by playing every team in the division 40 times is stupid. Why don't they tell the truth? It saves on travel costs.

No kidding. It's almost as if Bettman doesn't actually watch hockey. Here's some free advice for he and the rest of the braintrust who came up with this laughable schedule, rivalries, for the most part, are built in the playoffs.

You don't need big market teams to win the Stanley. Maybe he meant to say Canadian...

This is another joke. So maybe the large market teams should just get automatic playoff berths regardless of their records. I mean, it's for the good of the league, right? Screw teams like Nashville & Atlanta. The owners lined their pockets with the expansion fees to bring these teams on board (and subsequently watered down the league), but how dare they not know their roles and just stick to serving as fodder for the large market teams?

I have to tell you, it gave me a great deal of satisfaction to see Tampa & Carolina skate the Cup the last two seasons while Calgary & Edmonton fans were left to whine about how they deserved it so much more and how it would have meant so much more to them.

I actually like the foreign influence in the NHL. That people don't watch because of that is pure nonsense.

That's the typical xenophobic attitude of some "hockey purists." These are the same rocket scientists that loved the clutch & grab hockey we were subjected to before the lockout. The problem wasn't that the game was painfully boring, it was these gutless Russians and chicken Swedes complaining about it (nevermind that there were plenty of North Americans complaining about it, too).

Pendejo
01-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Here's a link to a story about the NHL sabotaging the campaign to get Rory Fitzpatrick elected to the all star game.

http://www.slate.com/id/2157741/nav/tap2/

Mtbrncofn
01-22-2007, 06:25 PM
Roy accused of hitting owner

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_5058519

The Canadian Press
Article Last Updated: 01/21/2007 11:14:06 PM MST


Saguenay, Quebec - Former Avalanche star Patrick Roy is facing possible assault charges after allegedly getting into a shoving match following a major junior hockey game in Chicoutimi, north of Quebec City.

Roy, a Hockey Hall of Famer who owns and coaches the Quebec City Remparts of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, is accused of hitting an opposing team's owner.

Police say about 50 fans of the Chicoutimi Sagueneens prevented the visiting Remparts players from boarding their team bus after a Friday night game.

Roy reportedly then got off the bus and attacked the Sagueneens' owner.

Police say they will interview witnesses before meeting with Roy in the coming days.

Bronx33
01-22-2007, 07:45 PM
The Sagueneens' owner is a baby, it is an honor to be shoved by patrick roy.

Bronx33
01-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Players will have the EDGE in 2006-07



DALLAS -- The air was peppered with "lution" talk Monday as the NHL entered into the evolution of uniforms that should produce revolutionary results.

http://cdn.nhl.com/images/wire/ap/2007/01/DNA10501222148.jpg
The NHL and Reebok are partnering to create a technologically advanced uniform system that is designed to meet the demands of NHL players.

The Rbk EDGE Uniform System will debut at the 2007 NHL All-Star SuperSkills and All-Star Game (Jan. 23 and 24, 8 p.m. ET, Versus, CBC, RDS, NHL Radio) and be worn by all NHL players, beginning with the start of the 2007-08 NHL season in October.

Player input has been important in the development of the Rbk Edge Uniform Systems. Sidney Crosby, who endorses Reebok equipment, made several suggestions which were incorporated in the design, as did officials from the NHLPA.

"I used the pants all summer," Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby said. "I'm pretty picky about my equipment, so I'm probably a good one to test it on. The jersey is a lot lighter and tighter, but it moves with you. Hey, it's a new era for the NHL, it may as well be for the uniform too."

The Rbk EDGE Uniform System was developed after nearly three years of study and development with the accent being on performance and player protection.



Two of Reebok's moisture management systems have been incorporated into the EDGE system to make the uniform lighter. PlayDry technology was used to move moisture and quicken evaporation. Reebok then added Bead Away, a water-repellency system to get rid of water from sweat, water bottles and the ice.

"It had to be about improving performance on the ice," Reebok's Matt O'Toole, the company's president and CEO of Reebok-CCM Hockey. "We believed we could make the uniform better. Over the years, the biggest change was the move from woolen sweaters to synthetic materials. And the jerseys got bigger as the players looked for a wider range of motion.

"We've applied technology from other sports to help improve the hockey uniform."

The result will be seen more in terms of performance than appearance. While the jersey is smaller than those presently in use, the look hasn't been changed radically. In other words, players aren't going to look like Spiderman, as some feared.

"This is evolution, not revolution," NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said. "It took three years to get this right."

To get what right you boob? why don't fix something that needs fixing besides your wallet

The new uniforms utilize four unique fabrics which keep players lighter, drier and better protected while maintaining durability. Stretch mesh provides ventilation and greater range of motion. 4Way Stretch Pique employs Rbk's Bead Away water-repellent technology. X-trafil provides durability. A stretch fabric in the collar features Reebok's PlayDry moisture-wicking technology to maximize comfort and breathability.

PlayDry's wicking capability and Bead Away's water repellency combine to reduce NHL sweater weight by 14 percent while wicking 76 percent more moisture away from the body. Players stay warmer, drier and fresher while avoiding the energy-draining effect of wearing a wet sweater at freezing temperatures.
http://cdn.nhl.com/images/upload/2007/01/c:%5Cdocuments%20and%20settings%5Crlevine.000%5Cmy %20documents%5Cmy%20pictures%5Casg-day%201%5Ceast_jersey_194x280.jpg
The Eastern Conference version of the Rbk EDGE uniforms.
X-trafil makes the sweaters twice as durable as the current sweater being worn by NHL players.

Reebok used the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to conduct wind tunnel tests on the new uniform design and Central Michigan's test labs to conduct heat mapping of the new design to see how much cooler the new design would be.

"We had hundreds different versions of uniforms," O'Toole said. "The uniform is 14 percent lighter, 25 percent lighter after games. There is nine percent less drag and it is 10 percent cooler. Plus, there is 60 percent more hip protection."

While much focus has been paid to the jersey, the Rbk EDGE Uniform System is just that, a system. Considerable attention has been paid to the body core, with a pad system for the hips and thighs that figures to provide considerable more protection to NHL players.

"The biggest thing is it's lighter and doesn't absorb water," New York Islanders forward Jason Blake said. "I like that it's tighter around the legs. It feels good to me."

"I especially like the idea that I'm going to be faster," Detroit Red Wings defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom joked. "I'm glad the players had input into the process. They created a great product. It gives and stretches on different parts of the body."

"The bad thing is it's all advantageous for them to move," Dallas Stars goalie Marty Turco joked. "That's the downside for the goalies."

The up-side?

"Water weight and it's cooler," Turco continued. "The way we hydrate, it's great to get the water off the equipment."

The EDGE System promises a world of change for hockey, with players better protected and outfitted to better show off their skills in terms of speed and range of motio

Mtbrncofn
01-22-2007, 09:05 PM
The Sagueneens' owner is a baby, it is an honor to be shoved by patrick roy.

Ha! No kidding.

Pendejo
01-22-2007, 09:23 PM
I read somewhere that the NHL was planning on fining players who make "alterations" to their new uniforms...which many do now. Cutting, and sewing and the like.

SoCalBronco
01-23-2007, 10:48 PM
NHL won't change schedule for 2007-08

TSN.ca with files from CP

1/23/2007 3:42:27 PM

The NHL will stay the course and will not change the regular season schedule for at least one more year.

That was the decision made the the league's board of governors on Tuesday in an effort to deal with its much-debated scheduling concerns.

A plan to switch back to the schedule the leagues used prior to the lockout, featuring six divisional games and 18 games against the other conference, received 19 of 30 votes. A two-thirds majority, or 20 votes, was needed to make the change.

Edmonton Oilers chairman Cal Nichols was frustrated by the league's decision.
''The politics seem to always enter into it,'' Nichols said after the meeting. ''I think we should be more concerned about the future of the game than specific interests or, 'It's going to cost me a few more thousand dollars to travel a few extra miles.' This shouldn't be about that. It's about the game.''


As it stands, the current format has teams playing eight divisional games, four games against each conference opponent outside the division, and selected teams from the other conference once each season.

It is believed the Montreal Canadiens may have been the only Canadian team to vote against the change.

''I'm very comfortable with the decision that was taken,'' said Canadiens president Pierre Boivin. ''Let's finish the cycle and take the time to carefully think about a solution.''

The schedule issue was debated earlier by the board this season in Palm Beach. A strong majority of teams were reported to want changes and did not want to see more divisional play.

For many teams in the Western Conference, there was added concerns about a heavier travel schedule and less opportunites to draw fans for Eastern Conference stars like Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=193326&hubname=

24champ
01-24-2007, 03:34 AM
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/33/full.getty-73023843vd017_2007_nhl_youn_12_18_56_am.jpg

Nice to see this pic...

and of course these...

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/2b/full.getty-73023843cp016_2007_nhl_youn_8_55_23_pm.jpg
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/da/full.getty-73023843vd007_2007_nhl_youn_8_14_36_pm.jpg

Mtbrncofn
01-24-2007, 11:24 PM
Way to go, West.

I still can't help but laugh over Ryan Miller. I thought Jose was vain, but I'm thinking Miller has him beat. I wonder how long it took him to have his hair done before his intro tonight. I wonder if he endorses someone's products....say Paul Mitchell. Actually now that I think about it, if it's anyone, it has to be for the Big Sexy Hair line. Ha!

Tredici
01-25-2007, 12:55 AM
NHL won't change schedule for 2007-08

TSN.ca with files from CP

1/23/2007 3:42:27 PM

The NHL will stay the course and will not change the regular season schedule for at least one more year.

That was the decision made the the league's board of governors on Tuesday in an effort to deal with its much-debated scheduling concerns.

A plan to switch back to the schedule the leagues used prior to the lockout, featuring six divisional games and 18 games against the other conference, received 19 of 30 votes. A two-thirds majority, or 20 votes, was needed to make the change.

Edmonton Oilers chairman Cal Nichols was frustrated by the league's decision.
''The politics seem to always enter into it,'' Nichols said after the meeting. ''I think we should be more concerned about the future of the game than specific interests or, 'It's going to cost me a few more thousand dollars to travel a few extra miles.' This shouldn't be about that. It's about the game.''


As it stands, the current format has teams playing eight divisional games, four games against each conference opponent outside the division, and selected teams from the other conference once each season.

It is believed the Montreal Canadiens may have been the only Canadian team to vote against the change.

''I'm very comfortable with the decision that was taken,'' said Canadiens president Pierre Boivin. ''Let's finish the cycle and take the time to carefully think about a solution.''

The schedule issue was debated earlier by the board this season in Palm Beach. A strong majority of teams were reported to want changes and did not want to see more divisional play.

For many teams in the Western Conference, there was added concerns about a heavier travel schedule and less opportunites to draw fans for Eastern Conference stars like Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=193326&hubname=

Criminy, it isn't rocket science. Outside of lowering travel costs this format isn't working. I'm real sure the Western teams are concerned about their fan base getting to see Ovechkin and Crosby. They are probably more concerned their equally talented rookies are getting no mentions because they aren't being featured in games on the all mighty east coast.

The other problem is strong divisions where really good teams just end up knocking other really good teams out of the playoff picture.

Bettman is just clueless.

24champ
01-25-2007, 01:22 AM
Criminy, it isn't rocket science. Outside of lowering travel costs this format isn't working. I'm real sure the Western teams are concerned about their fan base getting to see Ovechkin and Crosby. They are probably more concerned their equally talented rookies are getting no mentions because they aren't being featured in games on the all mighty east coast.

The other problem is strong divisions where really good teams just end up knocking other really good teams out of the playoff picture.

Bettman is just clueless.

Yeah I agree with that. I heard in the All-Star telecast on Versus that Bettman said he may not go back to the old scheduling but rather "tweaking" the current schedule. I mean I'm watching a good all-star game and then I hear this little pip-squeak yapping and he leaves me scratching my head. :kiddingme

Pendejo
01-25-2007, 02:15 AM
Yeah I agree with that. I heard in the All-Star telecast on Versus that Bettman said he may not go back to the old scheduling but rather "tweaking" the current schedule. I mean I'm watching a good all-star game and then I hear this little pip-squeak yapping and he leaves me scratching my head. :kiddingme

There are rumors that the next move is going to be realigning the divisions.

Clockwork Orange
01-25-2007, 02:37 AM
For a league that is so reliant on ticket sales, it seems that the decision makers are doing all they can to make sure that people don't shell out their cash to go to games. I'm sorry, but given a choice between a chance to watch superstars that they rarely get to see or their 19th game of the season against (insert divisional opponent that they're bored to death with here), people are much more likely to pay for option A.

I'm glad I got out to Pepsi Center to watch Ovechkin and the Caps this year. If the NHL has it's way, I won't get a chance to do that again until AO is having his farewell season.

24champ
01-25-2007, 02:42 AM
There are rumors that the next move is going to be realigning the divisions.

I thought those rumors were shot down last week or so?

Teams "overwhelmingly" like the structure of two conferences with three divisions each.

"There are some clubs -- Minnesota and Dallas that play most of their division games in other time zones -- in an ideal would that would like to see an adjustment. Based on geography, there's no way of doing that," Bettman said.

-- There are no expansion plans. The commissioner said the league is "focused on 30 healthy teams right now, focusing on the teams where they are."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AncRxNruHXhoYAKDWY97No17vLYF?slug=ap-nhl-bettman&prov=ap&type=lgns

So far so good if you ask me but money talks and there are a couple billionaires out there seeking to bring a hockey team to Hartford, CT and to Canada like Hamilton, Quebec, Winnepeg etc. Not to mention Kansas City has an arena ready for an NHL team, so who knows? That said I wouldn't be suprised if an expansion happened in the next 5 years.

24champ
01-25-2007, 05:27 AM
Freind of mine tells me that the Kings have notified Patrick O'sullivan tonight that he will join the Kings in Vancouver on friday.

Bronx33
01-25-2007, 11:22 AM
Most goals, both teams, one game - 26, North America 14, World 12, 2001, at Denver.

Fewest goals, both teams, one game - 2, NHL All-Stars 1, Montreal Canadiens 1, 1956 at Montreal; First Team All-Stars 1, Second Team All-Stars 1, 1952 at Detroit.

Most goals, one team, one game - 16, Wales 16, Campbell 6, 1993 at Montreal.

Fewest goals, one team, one game - 0, NHL All-Stars vs. Montreal, 1967 at Montreal.

Most shots, both teams, one game (since 1955) - 102, East 9 (56 shots), West 8 (46 shots), 1994 at New York.

Most shots, one team, one game (since 1955): 56, East, 1994 at New York.

Fewest shots, both teams, one game (since 1955) - 52, Wales 3 (40 shots), Campbell 2 (12 shots), 1978 at Buffalo.

Fewest shots, one team, one game (since 1955) - 12, Campbell (2 goals), 1978 at Buffalo.

Fastest two goals, both teams, from start of game - 37 seconds, 1970 at St. Louis. Jacques Laperriere of East scored at 20 seconds and Dean Prentice of West scored at 37 seconds. Final: East 4, West 1.

Fastest two goals, one team, from start of game - 2:15, World, 1998 at Montreal. Teemu Selanne scored at 0:53 and Jaromir Jagr scored 2:15. Final: North America 8, World 7.

Fastest two goals, one team - 8 seconds, 1997 at San Jose. Owen Nolan scored at 18:54 and at 19:02 of second period for Western. Final: Eastern 11, Western 7.

Fastest two goals, both teams - 8 seconds, Western, 1997 at San Jose. Owen Nolan scored at 18:54 and 19:02 of second period. Final: Eastern 11, Western 7.

Fastest three goals, both teams - :48, Martin Havlat scored at 19:00 of third for West; Sheldon Souray scored at 19:25 of third for East; Dion Phaneuf scored at 19:48 for West, 2007 at Dallas. Final: Western 12, Eastern 9.

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Fastest four goals, both teams - 2:24, 1997 at San Jose. Brendan Shanahan scored at 16:38 of second period for West; Dale Hawerchuk at 17:28 for East; Owen Nolan at 18:54 for West; Owen Nolan at 19:02 for West. Final: Eastern 11, Western 7.

Fastest three goals, one team - 1:08, Wales, 1993 at Montreal. Mike Gartner scored at 3:15 and 3:37 of first period, and Peter Bondra at 4:23.

Fastest four goals, one team - 4:17, Western, 2007 at Dallas. Brian Rolston scored at 8:30 of the second, Rick Nash scored at 10:40, Martin Havlat at 11:34 and Yanic Perreault at 12:47. Final: Western 12, Eastern 9.

Most goals, both teams, one period - 10, 1997 at San Jose. Second period - Eastern (6), Western (4). Final: Eastern 11, Western 7.

Most goals, one team, one period - 7 (Wales), first period, 1990 at Pittsburgh. Final: Wales 12, Campbell 7.

Most shots, both teams, one period - 39, 1994 at New York. Second period - West (21), East (18).

Most shots, one team, one period - 23, World, third period, 2001 at Denver. Final: North America (14), World (12).

Fewest shots, both teams, one period - 9, 1971 at Boston, third period, West (7), East (2). Final: West 2, East 1.

Fewest shots, one team, one period - 2, East, third period, 1971 at Boston. Final: West 2, East 1.

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Most games played - 23, Gordie Howe; 16, Wayne Gretzky; 15, Frank Mahovlich.

Most goals - 13, Wayne Gretzky, 18 games; 13, Mario Lemieux, 10 games.

Most assists - 16, Joe Sakic, 12 games.

Most points - 25, Wayne Gretzky (13 goals, 12 assists), 18 games; 23, Mario Lemieux (13 goals, 10 assists), 10 games.

Most penalty minutes - 25, Gordie Howe, 23 games.

Most power-play goals - 6, Gordie Howe, 23 games.

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Most games played - 13, Glenn Hall.

Most goals against - 27, Patrick Roy, 9 games.

Most minutes played - 540, Glen Hall, 13 games.

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Most goals - 4, Wayne Gretzky, Campbell, 1983; Mario Lemieux, Wales, 1990; Vincent Damphousse, Campbell, 1991; Mike Gartner, Wales, 1993.

Most assists - 5, Mats Naslund, Wales, 1988.

Most points - 6, Mario Lemieux (3 goals, 3 assists), Wales, 1990.

Most points, one period - 4, Wayne Gretzky, Campbell, third period, 1983, four goals; Mike Gartner, Wales, first period, 19ree goals, one assist; Adam Oates, Boston, Wales, first period, 1993, four assists.

Most goals, one period - 4, Wayne Gretzky, Campbell, third period, 1983.

Most assists, one period - 4, Adam Oates, Wales, first period, 1993.

Fastest goal from start of game - 19 seconds, Ted Lindsay, Detroit, 1950.

Fastest goal from start of period: 17 seconds, Ray Bourque, North America, 1999, second period.

Fastest two goals, one player, from start of game: 3:37, Mike Gartner, Wales, 1993, at 3:15 and 3:37.

Fastest two goals - 8 seconds, Owen Nolan, Western, 1997. Scored at 18:54 and 19:02 of second period.

Bronx33
01-25-2007, 11:50 AM
http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=b8abbfcb-26e8-4371-a418-ab07851dca5a&k=1908


Canadian Press
Published: Thursday, January 25, 2007


QUEBEC - All-star goalie Patrick Roy says he’s staying as coach and co-owner of the Quebec Remparts junior hockey team.

And a complaint filed with police against Roy has been withdrawn.

Pierre Cardinal of the Chicoutimi Sagueneens is dropping legal proceedings against Roy.

The complaint was filed late last week when Roy was allegedly involved in a shoving match after a game between the Remparts and the Sagueneens in Saguenay, about 250 kilometres north of Quebec City.

Cardinal says he and his family have been shaken by the events.

Roy had mused about quitting the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League team because of the controversy.
© Canadian Press 2007

Bronx33
01-25-2007, 03:00 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2742573

TORONTO -- Executive director Ted Saskin is facing another challenge to his leadership of the NHL Players' Association, with a majority of the 30 union-player representatives approving an independent investigation into his hiring.

The action was announced Thursday in a statement from a New York public relations company, with players and officials scattered across the country after Wednesday night's All-Star Game.

"This is an informative investigation that we feel will preserve the integrity of our NHLPA constitution and leadership process," Mathieu Schneider, a Detroit Red Wings defenseman and interim NHLPA executive committee member, said in the statement. "The purpose of the investigation is to clear the air, produce clarity on these questions and fortify a strong unified union."

A conference call was scheduled Thursday night between Saskin and the executive board, which is made up of the NHLPA's executive committee and the player-representatives from the 30 teams.

News of this latest challenge comes three days after a lawsuit against Saskin and others was dismissed by a U.S. federal court in Illinois. The judge agreed with the NHLPA position that Ontario rather than Illinois should host such a lawsuit, if indeed it was even warranted.

A group of about 70 players led by Chris Chelios, Dwayne Roloson and Trent Klatt has sought Saskin's removal as the NHLPA's executive director since he took over from Bob Goodenow following the lockout.

Jori
01-25-2007, 03:12 PM
The name of the Avs AHL affiliate next season will be the Lake Erie Monsters.

http://www.lakeeriemonsters.com/

Clockwork Orange
01-25-2007, 05:14 PM
The name of the Avs AHL affiliate next season will be the Lake Erie Monsters.

http://www.lakeeriemonsters.com/

I am so getting a Monsters jersey. :)

Bronx33
01-25-2007, 05:58 PM
So it all comes together............i agree pretty cool sweaters

Bronx33
01-25-2007, 06:06 PM
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2626/weeklynews19932002xs.jpg/

http://www.lakeeriemonsters.com/sightings/

Bronx33
01-25-2007, 06:38 PM
Our grizzlies went full circle!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Grizzlies_(1995-2005)

The Utah Grizzlies, which moved to Utah following their only season in Denver, Colorado shortly after the NHL's Quebec Nordiques announced their relocation to become the Colorado Avalanche, was admitted to the AHL when the IHL folded in 2001. They played their home games in the E Center.

While in Denver, the Grizzlies won the 1994-1995 Turner Cup, the official Championship of the International Hockey League.

The franchise was granted a voluntary suspension for the 2005-2006 season while the owner found a buyer for the AHL franchise. That buyer arrived in May 2006, as the owner of the NBA Cleveland Cavaliers, Dan Gilbert, purchased the franchise to replace the departing Cleveland Barons. The new Cleveland Lake Erie Monsters team will begin play in the fall of 2007.

Pendejo
01-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Yeah...the logo looks pretty good. It reminds me a bit of the San Diego Padres' high A affiliate Lake Elsinore Storm

Mtbrncofn
01-26-2007, 12:21 AM
Ha! It looks like Marvin the Martian.

Pendejo
01-26-2007, 02:35 AM
Ha! It looks like Marvin the Martian.

No. It's bad ass. The Storm are bad ass just like their logo...as are the Madres...I love the swingin' friar. Not in a gay way though. All of you perverts can take your dirty thoughts re: my enjoyment of the "friar" logo and cram it with walnuts.

You know you want a Lake Elsinore Storm hat now Mt...

Aside from that...it's a great development for the Avs...

24champ
01-26-2007, 02:52 AM
I love the swingin' friar. Not in a gay way though. All of you perverts can take your dirty thoughts re: my enjoyment of the "friar" logo and cram it with walnuts.
Sure thing Pendejo.Ha!

Mtbrncofn
01-26-2007, 10:54 AM
You know you want a Lake Elsinore Storm hat now Mt...

Aside from that...it's a great development for the Avs...

For sure. I just want to be able to get my story straight if someone accuses me of the Marvin thing. Ha!

Clockwork Orange
01-26-2007, 10:52 PM
Mark Recchi scores his 500th career goal tonight in Dallas.

Jori
01-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Brisebois is out for the remainder of the season (also safe to say that he's done as an Av).

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=288096&page=NewsPage&service=page

Bronx33
01-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Cool some good news, he doesn't count against the cap now right? FA time!

24champ
01-28-2007, 04:25 PM
Here is a great Blog, some of you may have heard of Gare Joyce from his articles on ESPN .com but this guy knows his s***.

http://garejoycesgames.blogspot.com/2007/01/catch-falling-star-logan-couture.html

Saturday, January 27, 2007

Catch a Falling Star: Logan Couture, Luckless Prospect

I saw that Patrick O’Sullivan scored for the Los Angeles Kings the other night. That got me thinking about the prospect whose stock crashes. Every NHL draft has one. The stories of these kids are often the most compelling stuff on draft day.

I wrote about Patrick O’Sullivan prior to the 2003 draft in ESPN The Magazine, a talented kid who was perceived to be a risk. Teams were scared off him, in part, because of a father who physically and emotionally abused him. A CHL Rookie of the Year, he might have had first-round talent but some scouts told me prior to the draft that their clubs wouldn’t take him with their sixth-round picks. Some teams didn’t have him on their lists at all. Minnesota ended up taking him in the middle of the second-round and that pick looks pretty good right now. Yeah, he’s in LA but he turned into an asset that the Wild converted into Pavol Demitra. The O’Sullivan pick looks pretty good when you see some of those tapped in the selections ahead of him. (Weird coincidence: I actually worked with his father at the Coca-Cola plant in Toronto when we were teenagers, didn’t realize it until the son showed me family photos.)

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=59745

(If you go over to my story archive blog http://garejoyce.blogspot.com/ you can read the O'Sullivan story. It was the first time he talked about "the issues" and I think he's not going there anymore.)

Another guy whose stock was ticking down was Wojtek Wolski. He got into some tussle at a party on the eve of the draft and suddenly he was regarded as Mr Bad Attitude. That seemed a strange one to me. I’d talked to him a bunch of times. Wolski was no blockhead. He was pretty quick on the uptake, way smarter than your run-of-the-mill junior, a little more worldy. Hockey Canada soured on him and wrote him out of the world-junior plans. (Hard for me to figure after he played gamely for the summer 18s in 2003 even though he had a bum wheel that had him on crutches away from the rink.) I think Colorado did pretty well nabbing him late in the first round.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=71741

It’s an interesting draft phenomenon. I don’t think it’s unique to the NHL, not with stories like Aaron Rodgers plunge in the NFL draft a couple of years back. (Watching him fall from No. 2 or 3 or whatever to No. 24 was like watching LZ 129 Hindenburg.) So who’s falling and why? A quick look at the pre-season prospect previews and the mid-term NHL Central Scouting would tell you that no one has fallen harder than Logan Couture, a centre with the Ottawa 67’s. Not that he brought any of this on himself. This poor kid can’t catch a break.

How much has he fallen? Depends where you had him slotted originally. One scout told me last summer that he liked Couture for the top slot, No. 1 overall. That leaves a lot of room to drop. According to the NHL mid-terms, Logan is the 11th ranked North American skater. Project that out and you’d have a mid to late first-rounder. As the English Beat once asked: Wh’appen?

I’ve caught a couple of his games, one in Mississauga in late November, the other the OHL all-stars vs the Russian touring team last month. I asked him about the slide.

Couture was first knocked out of the summer 18s by injury. Freakish. He was a lock to be on the team, a shot to be the captain or at least a first-liner. Then on the last shift of the last game prior to the team selection, he suffered a cut around his knee from a skate blade. “I was playing the best hockey I think I ever played,” he told me. “Set up a goal and scored a goal on the two shifts before. Last shift, there was maybe five seconds left when I got cut. They sewed me up right on the bench. I was thinking that they might still take me but really there was no way they could. I was limping around for a few days.”

Couture showed me the cut. Not for the faint of heart—it had to go deep. Jeez, it still looked fresh four months later.

Missing the 18s was an opportunity lost but it wouldn’t have hurt Couture if he hadn’t contracted mono and missed a good chunk of the first half of Ottawa’s sked. I’m sure that he came back too soon and his performance suffered for it. I sat behind the Ottawa bench in Mississauga and Couture looked more than gassed—he looked nauseous on the ice. It was pretty plain that he couldn’t do the things he was used to doing. A situation like that doesn’t help a prospect—fact is, if the kid is really game he’ll likely expose himself to injury. A step behind where he’s used to being—that’s when a kid gets clocked.

The Ice Dogs smoked Ottawa that day ...

Ottawa 67's 1 vs. Mississauga IceDogs 6
The Mississauga IceDogs defeated the Ottawa 67's 6 - 1 in an OHL hockey game played on Sunday, November 19, 2006.
SHOTS Ottawa 67's - 20 Mississauga IceDogs - 47
SCORING
1. MISS Lawrence, (12) (Schiestel, Santini), 2:42
1. MISS Owens, (16) (Pietrangelo, Legein), 5:24
1. MISS Beljo, (11) (Lawrence, Swift), 15:06
1. MISS Lawrence, (13) (Beljo, Swift), 15:52
1. MISS Swift, (11) (Schiestel), 18:48
2. OTT Lindsay, (3) (Biduke, Lahey), 1:40 (PP)
3. MISS Swift, (12) (Beljo, Santini), 16:06

and would have with or without a healthy Couture. Brian Kilrea (the 67’s coach for those of you who haven’t toured the Hall of Fame) told me that he didn’t think Couture should have been playing. Nice sentiment, but then again, as coach, Killer filled out the line-up, right? And he was still sending Couture out in the death throes of the blow-out--when he came off the ice from his last shift in the last minute Couture looked like he was going to black out.


That was a 4 p.m. game at the Hershey Centre--the place was lousy with NHL scouts, at least 30, who doubled up, Brampton vs Petes at 2 pm, Ott vs Miss on the back half. From the deep corner seats they saw how Couture played--I doubt that they could tell how beat up he was.

Couture told me he was about 85 or 90 percent at the O vs Russia all-star game. Probably the over-optimism of youth. I can’t give you any useful dope on him—it’s hard to tell what type of player he is based on a couple of views, both of them with big asterisks beside them. Word is, though, he’s on the rebound. Season's numbers to date 15-30-45 in 34 games. I’m going to try to catch him in the next little stretch.

The fine print: The ten North American skaters ahead of Couture:

1
ESPOSITO, ANGELO -- QUEBEC --6' 1" 180 C
2
VAN RIEMSDYK, JAMES -- USDP USA U-18 --6' 3" 200 LW
3
GAGNER, SAM -- LONDON -- 5' 10.75" 191 C
4
KANE, PATRICK -- LONDON -- 5' 9.5" 160 RW
5
TURRIS, KYLE -- BCHL -- BURNABY -- 6' 0.5" 170 C
6
ELLERBY, KEATON -- KAMLOOPS -- 6' 4.25" 186 D
7
BLUM, JOHN -- VANCOUVER -- 6' 0.25" 160 D
8
ALZNER, KARL -- CALGARY -- 6' 2" 206 D
9
SUTTER, BRANDON -- RED DEER -- 6' 2.75" 170 C,RW
10
CROSS, TOMMY -- HIGH SCHOOL-CT WESTMINSTER -- 6' 3" 195 D

pithy observations: six-four-and-a-quarter and 186, pretty scrawny for ellerby ... should way something closer to Linda Ellerbie ... it's funny talking to scouts about Angelo Esposito ... it seems like everyone who has seen him wasn't blown away in Rempart games that they caught but heard he was good in the next game after they left ... saw the cross kid at summer 18s ... easily the best US defenceman at the tournament tho' he started the season below the radar somewhat, way behind another US d-man Nick Petrecki from USHL Omaha ... Petrecki is another guy who has seen the ass drop out of his stock based on NHL Central's mid-terms (preseason top 10 guy, now No. 31 among North American skaters) ... Brandon Sutter musta had lead socks on when they weighed him ... doesn't look 160 to me ... Kane is out there as a first liner with the US u-20s and Van Riemsdyk watches the whole freakin' tournament, dumb, dumb, dumb ...

Hope Deano gets a first round pick at the Deadline so we can get Alzner and and Couture!:wiggle:

Bronx33
01-28-2007, 04:29 PM
Freaking clement insists theres still a rivalry..lol

24champ
01-28-2007, 04:34 PM
Freaking clement insists theres still a rivalry..lol

I miss Claude Lemieux, god that guy was an animal when he played the Wings.

Bronx33
01-28-2007, 04:40 PM
I miss Claude Lemieux, god that guy was an animal when he played the Wings.

Opps i posted this on the wrong thread, I agree a team needs a hated guy i remember hating dino ciccerelli with all my heart. And that is what bettman has taken from the game.

Bronx33
01-28-2007, 05:31 PM
Geeeeeeeee i wonder why?

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=288098&page=NewsPage&service=page

NEW YORK (AP) -TV watchers didn't exactly warm up to the NHL's midweek All-Star game, which experienced a 76 percent drop in household viewership from the previous All-Star game in 2004.

Wednesday night's game in Dallas drew a 0.7 Nielsen rating on Versus, the cable channel formerly known as OLN. The game was viewed in an estimated 474,298 households and by 672,948 viewers, down from the 1,985,000 households that saw the 2004 All-Star game on a Sunday afternoon on ABC.

Wednesday's most-watched show, American Idol on Fox, drew an estimated 37 million viewers in the 9 p.m. hour.

The NHL ratings drop-off was even greater when compared to the 2000 game in Toronto, which was watched in approximately 2,681,000 households on a Sunday afternoon - or more than five times as many homes as were tuned in Wednesday.

While Wednesday's game was the most-watched cable show that night in Buffalo and Pittsburgh, it did not place among the top 20 cable shows in NHL markets such as New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Washington and Miami. The 7.1 rating in Buffalo was by far the largest in any U.S. market.

In host city Dallas, the game was only the 18th most-watched cable program with a 0.5 rating. The national rating is the percentage of U.S. television households tuned to a program, and each point represents about 1.1 million homes.

In Canada, the estimated audience on CBC was 1.238 million, up about 6 percent from 2004.

The All-Star game wasn't held in 2005 because of the season-long labor dispute or in 2006 because of the Olympics.

24champ
01-28-2007, 05:38 PM
Dear NHL NIMRODS,

Schedule the ASG back into the weekends!

Sincerely,

A pissed off hockey fan.

Bronx33
01-28-2007, 05:50 PM
Just freaking amazing what a cluster **** one man can turn our game into in such a short time...

Mtbrncofn
01-28-2007, 09:06 PM
Brisebois is out for the remainder of the season (also safe to say that he's done as an Av).

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=288096&page=NewsPage&service=page

Wow.

Pendejo
01-29-2007, 05:06 PM
According to spectorshockey.net the Kings have traded Craig Conroy back to Calgary for Jamie Lundmark and two future picks.

Mtbrncofn
01-29-2007, 08:03 PM
Yeah, I had a feeling he was headed back up there. Let the trading begin!

24champ
01-29-2007, 08:12 PM
According to spectorshockey.net the Kings have traded Craig Conroy back to Calgary for Jamie Lundmark and two future picks.


So it begins...


Kings net this years 4th round pick and next years 2nd and free up about 1.6 million in cap space. Whatever Lundmark produces will be a bonus.

It's exactly the kind of deal I expected. Decent deal, now lets go work on the next piece to be leaving Deano.

Miller?
Norstrom?
Visnovski?
Avery?

Pendejo
01-29-2007, 11:06 PM
So it begins...


Kings net this years 4th round pick and next years 2nd and free up about 1.6 million in cap space. Whatever Lundmark produces will be a bonus.

It's exactly the kind of deal I expected. Decent deal, now lets go work on the next piece to be leaving Deano.

Miller?
Norstrom?
Visnovski?
Avery?

There was another rumor on Spectors that said the Kings are tired of Avery's act and are looking to move him. According to the rumor they're asking for a first round pick. Of course they can ask for whatever they, but there's no way they're going to get that. Avery is not without some talent...he's got good wheels and he can chip in on the score sheet. His problem is that he's such a humongous douche bag that no one can stand him...even his own teammates reportedly dislike him. He's right near the top of the league in PIM's with only one FM. He takes liberties, and refuses to answer the bell...(see his turtle job when Darcy Hordichuk pounded on him after Avery took a run a Paul Kariya from behind.) He's dumb as a rock, and he'll really hurt a team in the post season if he gets to take a regular shift.

Mtbrncofn
01-29-2007, 11:10 PM
Is anyone else getting tired of the Forsberg thing? It's driving me nuts. Just do something already!!

I admit, I do have my hopes up a bit that somehow he'd end up back in an Avs sweater, but a lot of things say no. I keep reading he wants to go to a playoff contender. That pretty much counts us out.

Mtbrncofn
01-29-2007, 11:11 PM
There was another rumor on Spectors that said the Kings are tired of Avery's act and are looking to move him. According to the rumor they're asking for a first round pick. Of course they can ask for whatever they, but there's no way they're going to get that. Avery is not without some talent...he's got good wheels and he can chip in on the score sheet. His problem is that he's such a humongous douche bag that no one can stand him...even his own teammates reportedly dislike him. He's right near the top of the league in PIM's with only one FM. He takes liberties, and refuses to answer the bell...(see his turtle job when Darcy Hordichuk pounded on him after Avery took a run a Paul Kariya from behind.) He's dumb as a rock, and he'll really hurt a team in the post season if he gets to take a regular shift.

LOL I read that too about the Kings wanting a 1st for Avery. I about laughed myself out of the chair.

Pendejo
01-29-2007, 11:16 PM
LOL I read that too about the Kings wanting a 1st for Avery. I about laughed myself out of the chair.

They could probably get it...if he wasn't such a knuckle head/ass hat.

Hey mt...did you see the video going around the interweb of avery's girlfriend (some actress...actually a pretty good looking broad) ditching him at a club to go hang out with paris hilton?

Mtbrncofn
01-29-2007, 11:18 PM
No, I didn't. But I have seen the gf and she is very pretty. Obviously, she's one of those pretty dumb ones if she's with him. Ha!

Pendejo
01-29-2007, 11:27 PM
No, I didn't. But I have seen the gf and she is very pretty. Obviously, she's one of those pretty dumb ones if she's with him. Ha!

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1757402

24champ
01-29-2007, 11:46 PM
There was another rumor on Spectors that said the Kings are tired of Avery's act and are looking to move him. According to the rumor they're asking for a first round pick.
Believe it or not several teams are interested in Avery...Boston, Habs, Oilers, Islanders to name a few. He will be gone book it.

Pendejo
01-29-2007, 11:57 PM
Believe it or not several teams are interested in Avery...Boston, Habs, Oilers, Islanders to name a few. He will be gone book it.

I don't doubt there's interest...but I don't think they'll get a first rounder for him.

If he could get his act together he'd be a very valuable player on any team. He just chooses to be a complete jackass who no one respects. He takes far too many penalties...and apparently alienates his teammates.

24champ
01-30-2007, 12:03 AM
I don't doubt there's interest...but I don't think they'll get a first rounder for him.


Fortunately for us this is a buyers market. When that happens then somebody will overpay. Just have to wait and see...

24champ
01-30-2007, 12:10 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=dw-bettman012907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Unhappy anniversary
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
January 29, 2007

Dan Wetzel
Yahoo! Sports
Everyone has a favorite conspiracy theory about the NBA. Some like the idea that David Stern fixed the 1984 draft lottery. Others favor his supposed secret suspension of a star player for gambling problems.

Mine dates back to the early 1990s, when the NHL was white hot with fans and never better on the ice. Wayne Gretzky was in Los Angeles. Mark Messier was with the New York Rangers, who were on the verge of ending their Stanley Cup drought. Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, Ray Bourque, Patrick Roy and many others were hitting their prime.

Anyone who doesn't think hockey can work in America is forgetting this era. All of a sudden, hockey was challenging, if not beating, the NBA in a number of major U.S. markets – including New York. It's almost impossible to imagine now, but it happened.

As the conspiracy theory goes, Stern sensed the potential trouble in 1993 while the NHL was in search of a new commissioner. So he looked around his own office for someone so incompetent that if they got the job, the NHL would be marginalized by their mismanagement and never again be a threat to the NBA.

Naturally, Stern recommended one of his assistants, Gary Bettman, for the job.

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True story or not, it worked.

Bettman is set to begin his 15th year as commissioner Thursday, and like most hockey fans I feel the need to mark the occasion by popping a bottle of champagne, chugging the entire thing in an effort to drown my misery and then smashing the empty bottle over my temple to black out the memories.

There has never been a commissioner of a major North American sports league this inept, yet the league's board of governors keeps employing him, keeps giving him another chance to sink this once-proud, once-vibrant league to new depths.

Bettman is on a 14-year run of bad ideas. His latest was a classic, moving the league's all-star game, which featured attention-grabbing young megastars, to midweek on the Versus Network – as opposed to NBC on a weekend. He claimed it would allow Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin to own the sports landscape, unlike some crowded weekend.

The result was a catastrophic 0.7 rating. That's a meager 474,298 households in the States that bothered to watch, down 76 percent from the last all-star game.

It is par for a season which has seen TV numbers plummet in both the U.S. and Canada (down 20 percent by some reports), attendance drop and media coverage dwindle.

Hockey fans would laugh if we weren't crying. We'd figure it would be the last straw that would lead to his dismissal, but at this stage, we know he's never going away. For those of us who grew up loving and living this sport and this league, all of us who cared about the NHL long before Bettman's slow, steady suicidal stewardship of it, it's just the latest in a recurring nightmare.

The Bettman era has been an unmitigated disaster for the league in virtually every possible way, one outrageously terrible initiative after another.

I could write a book about Bettman's insulting and imbecilic moves through the years (Chapter 9, "The Glowing Puck") but the main problem has always been the same. He has shown no respect for the game, for its history, for its fans, for its unique qualities.

Bettman might consider himself an astute sports marketer, but in practice he is arguably the worst of all-time. He has never figured out how to change his marketing plans to fit the product of hockey. Instead he changed the product to fit his marketing plans.

The league is now overexpanded and overpriced, misplaced and misdirected. It is less exciting, less interesting, less traditional and more difficult to follow for the non-obsessive fan.

Yes, hockey fans remain. I'm one of them. But even we can't believe what has happened here. It is bad enough a desperate, ill-advised grab of supposed "new, emerging markets" have come at the expense of the old fan base. It's dispiriting that the league chased the fickle corporate dollar and priced out families. But what's worse is it just keeps going and going, Bettman on the job for life.

Under Bettman's watch, the NHL's improvements are few. Certainly new technologies such as the "Center Ice" package and the Internet have been great. And there are far more highly skilled players than in 1993, thanks to the influx of talent from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.

Of course, Bettman had nothing to do with these things occurring.

The elimination of the red line and the crackdown on obstruction are positives. Some will argue that shootouts to decide regular-season games and the severe curbing of fighting are positives, but that's a matter of personal preference.

While some hail the salary cap that allows across-the-board competitiveness, I think it suppresses the kind of elite play that makes the game great. Hockey is the ultimate team pursuit – the need for timing and teamwork is paramount. The individual star is utterly worthless without strong teammates.

The great player needs other great players to be great. In the mid-1980s Gretzky needed Messier, Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson, Jari Kurri and others to maximize his abilities and thrill fans. A salary cap prevents talent from flocking together like that, so we get economic viability of the Atlanta Thrashers in exchange for breathtaking teams such as the Edmonton Oilers of 1980s or the Detroit Red Wings of the late 1990s.

The negatives are too numerous to list, but consider the league's current uneven schedule which serves no purpose other than cutting travel costs for a few cheapskate owners. Teams play eight games per season against division foes, or 32 a year against just four teams.

Bettman claimed it would spawn "new" rivalries. Of course, old rivalries such as Detroit-Toronto – two hockey-mad towns separated by a single highway that actually has an exit for Wayne Gretzky Blvd. – no longer play a home-and-home series each season. It's like killing Red Sox-Yankees so Blue Jays-Diamondbacks might catch on.

And, since fighting has been curbed, the "new" rivalries haven't really taken because a hockey rivalry without fighting is like non-alcoholic beer.

Plus, not everyone gets to see young superstars such as Pittsburgh's Crosby or Washington's Ovechkin.

Last week, 22 franchises tried to bring the old schedule back, but eight blocked the move in a vote while Bettman, predictably, did little lobbying on behalf of the majority opinion.

This is Bettman's NHL. Fourteen years, four bankruptcies, three franchise moves, two lockouts, one lost season and no effective leadership. The business is so sick that the Pittsburgh Penguins, despite a loyal fan base and the most promising talent since Gretzky, are 50-50 to move to that noted hockey hotbed of Kansas City.

Bettman has his apologists who point out that he beat former NHLPA head Bob Goodenow during the last lockout and got a salary cap installed.

Which is true, except it cost the NHL an entire season and an incalculable number of fans. And the proposed cap for next season is already creeping close to the average pre-lockout team salary. Wasn't the new deal only needed because the old deal was so bad? And who negotiated that one for the NHL in 1994? Oh yes, Gary Bettman, who locked the players out and killed all momentum from the Rangers' Stanley Cup championship to get that ill-fated deal done.

Lord knows what is next. Lord knows how he can make it worse. Lord knows what prior screwups he'll try to solve now with fresh screwups.

You'd think a 0.7 was rock bottom, but then again, this is someone who surveyed the burning wreckage of the NHL and decided that what would really turn things around this time were sleek new uniforms from Reebok, which were trotted out last week.

"This is an evolution of our uniform," Bettman proudly crowed.

Of course, already fans who are carrying even a few extra pounds report that they look ridiculous in the new form fitting jerseys, which has led to predictions of plummeting apparel sales and jokes about how Bettman hatched the idea after watching George Costanza comically change the New York Yankees' uniforms to cotton.

"This is a Seinfeld episode, isn't it?" wrote one fan on the San Jose Mercury News' hockey blog.

Yes, David Stern's bizarro world, now entering its 15th year and counting.

Mtbrncofn
01-30-2007, 12:39 AM
And, since fighting has been curbed, the "new" rivalries haven't really taken because a hockey rivalry without fighting is like non-alcoholic beer.

My favorite part. Man I miss that.

Last week, 22 franchises tried to bring the old schedule back, but eight blocked the move in a vote while Bettman, predictably, did little lobbying on behalf of the majority opinion.

I take it this isn't a majority rules thing?

Seriously, what the hell does it take for the powers that be to see that Bettman has ruined and further ruining the NHL?

24champ
01-30-2007, 12:42 AM
and just when you think it couldn't get worse....

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6410619.html?display=Breaking+News

Mtbrncofn
01-30-2007, 12:43 AM
Oh good Lord. You've got to be kidding me. It's almost comical in a really depressing sort of way.

Killericon
01-30-2007, 12:52 AM
According to spectorshockey.net the Kings have traded Craig Conroy back to Calgary for Jamie Lundmark and two future picks.

Who here thinks this was a good trade for the Flames?

I'm trying to get away from your guys' sorrow over that "Versus" ****. God I love CBC.

24champ
01-30-2007, 12:59 AM
Who here thinks this was a good trade for the Flames?


It was a solid trade for both sides.

Killericon
01-30-2007, 01:16 AM
It was a solid trade for both sides.

I'm curious as to where he'll fit in on the depth chart...but I bet that Conroy and Iginla are together on the PP.

SoCalBronco
01-30-2007, 01:31 AM
Oh good Lord. You've got to be kidding me. It's almost comical in a really depressing sort of way.

What? You don't want to see P.J. Stock giving you hockey analysis and having games from just 10 east coast teams on only twice a week?

I need to bust out the old MT mock-like letter to OLN. Ha!

24champ
01-30-2007, 01:37 AM
I'm curious as to where he'll fit in on the depth chart...but I bet that Conroy and Iginla are together on the PP.

Im not really familiar with the Flames but I would check their boards. They say probably 3rd line center.Conroy is a great locker room guy and teammate. I will miss him but hopefully the Flames knock out the Anaheim Sucks in the playoffs.:thumbsup:

Jori
01-30-2007, 02:11 AM
If George Parros can fetch a second rounder, there's probably some team out there dumb enough to give up a first for Avery.

Nuggets4
01-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Man, if that conspiracy theory about Stern is true, the man really should run for president.

Mtbrncofn
01-30-2007, 04:44 PM
What? You don't want to see P.J. Stock giving you hockey analysis and having games from just 10 east coast teams on only twice a week?

I need to bust out the old MT mock-like letter to OLN. Ha!

Do it! That was a classic. They probably printed it out and framed it. Oh wait, that was the one you didn't send....but you should have.

Pendejo
01-30-2007, 06:05 PM
If George Parros can fetch a second rounder, there's probably some team out there dumb enough to give up a first for Avery.

Touche.

Wasn't the Ducks trading for Parros a result of Burke's knee jerk reaction to Boogaard running J.S. Giguere?

Jori
01-30-2007, 06:42 PM
Touche.

Wasn't the Ducks trading for Parros a result of Burke's knee jerk reaction to Boogaard running J.S. Giguere?

Yup. There are stupid/desperate GMs out there....afterall somebody wanted Jose Theodore around the trade deadline last year :D

24champ
01-30-2007, 08:08 PM
this is a rather long awaited and promised interview with Jack, which was conducted by his buddy who has become a rather recurring visitor to the Kings board on Hockey's Future since Johnson was acquired from Carolina.

this is a draft, and he's indicated that the final interview will be placed on his personal site shortly.


The Long Awaited Jack Johnson Interview


I called Jack and asked for permission to post this interview on this forum. Here it is, at last!:

Justin Spiro: What are your thoughts on Michigan’s season thus far?

Jack Johnson: So far, first half season didn’t go as well as we wanted or expected. Since Christmas, things have been rolling in the right direction and our season could still be a success. It is too early to make any ultimate determinations, but I feel good about this team’s chances.

JS: On a more individual level: Rate your performance this season? Have you met your own personal standards?

JJ: My standards are higher than anybody else’s are for me, and it is tough to ever be satisfied. I concern myself with my contribution to the team. Did we win the game and did I contribute to that win? These are my primary concerns.

JS: Has your time at Michigan moved you any closer to a decision regarding your future? Will you be leaving Ann Arbor soon?

JJ: My time in Ann Arbor has been everything I wanted it to be. I haven’t given the future a whole lot of thought. I have some very important things ahead of me hockey wise, not to mention school. It is completely cliché, but I am going to take things one step at a time. When the time comes, I will decide what I am going to do.

JS: Recent draftee Erik Johnson has drawn rave reviews. Many scouts have stacked you against him and have come to varying conclusions as to who will be the better player. What is your opinion of the other Johnson?

JJ: I have played with him twice, and he is absolutely phenomenal. He is an even better person than he is player. I am very fond of him, he was an excellent defensive partner. There is no question in my mind that he is going to have a great career.


JS: Assuming you do eventually sign with the Kings, how excited are you at the prospect of living and playing in Los Angeles?

JJ: I truly hope that I do have the privilege of playing for Los Angeles. They would be demanding wins, and I expect to be a part of delivering them. I am thrilled that I may have an opportunity to play there.


JS: Have you watched any Kings games this season? What are your impressions of the team?

JJ: Whenever they are on TV, I enjoy watching the Kings. They are very young and talented. My perception is that they will be among the NHL’s best within a couple of years, and the potential is far greater than the standings would let on.



JS: Which current Kings player would you be most excited to play with?

JJ: If I got the chance to play with Rob Blake, that would top my list. He is a Hall of Fame defenseman that has won it all. Just one hell of a defenseman, and certainly as good as it gets.

JS: In Los Angeles, a fan based message board has given you the nickname “Jack Mother ******* Johnson”. Do you like the new moniker?

JJ: I appreciate it, I think! I don’t know if it is a nickname that will stick, for obvious reasons, but it is one of the better names I’ve had. Maybe they can abbreviate it to “JMFJ” to avoid any conflicts.

JS: What has been the greatest benefit of resisting Carolina’s efforts to sign you right out of high school? In hindsight, was going to the University of Michigan a wise decision?

JJ: Yes, I don’t regret going to UM one bit. I always wanted to do it while growing up, and it is something I will always look back on. So many wonderful athletes have played at this university. Going to class with All-American football players, the greatness of Yost… what an experience.

Carolina would have been great, but I am definitely looking forward to performing in front of the Kings and a fan base that I perceive to be among the finest in the game.

JS: Did it hurt when the Hurricanes traded you away?

JJ: No, it wasn’t personal at all. We obviously weren’t on the same page, and they didn’t agree with my decision. It was my decision to make, and I knew some people wouldn’t agree. It was my choice, and I was going to do what I thought was best for my development. It was a business move, and I absolutely respect the Hurricanes organization decision to move me.

JS: Will you be playing with a chip on your shoulder?

JJ: I always play with a chip on my shoulder, so that is almost irrelevant. Still, I want to let people know that I can hold my own on the ice. If I get the opportunity to play, I will show everybody that I can perform. I certainly won’t hold anything back.

JS: What defines a successful NHL career? Stanley Cups, numerous All-Star Game appearances? What must you do to satisfy your personal standard of success whenever you do make the jump?

JJ: I think people view successful careers differently. I think you have to be recognized as a winner. The biggest thing is that Stanley Cup. The individual accolades are nice, but a championship is the most important.

I would much rather be considered a champion than a great player. That said, the goal is to combine the two. I don’t plan to settle for just one.

JS: What number do you intend to wear in your post-collegiate career?

JJ: I’ve worn number 3 in college, but I am not sure if I want to carry that over. It was my father’s number, and I would like to create my own identity. Aaron Miller already has it, anyway. I am still in college, but I am guessing a great way to make friends would be not to stroll into the locker room and request a current player’s number.

JS: Hypothetical: Your close friend Sidney Crosby is dashing toward the net. You’re all that stands between him and a breakaway goal. Who wins the battle, and would you hesitate to level him with a clean hit?

JJ: Who wins? That is tough. Back when we were high school teammates, we pushed each other and it was always a fierce competition.

In that situation, I am going to do everything I possibly can to keep him from scoring. He wouldn’t let up on me in the least bit, so you can bet I will do anything to stop him. We’re friends off the ice, but on it there is no mercy. If I had to take him out (legally), I would do it.

He is probably the best player in the world right now, so I would have my hands full.

JS: Throughout your Michigan career, you have been criticized (and thunderously booed in Canada) for what people perceive to be "dirty" play. Do you relish playing the role of villain?

JJ: Yes, it is great. Most people that boo me would love to have me on their team, I am guessing. I absolutely relish it, and even laugh at it most of the time. I can’t imagine paying money for a seat just to insult a player the whole game. I find as much entertainment in it as anybody.

JS: Are you at all concerned about the reception you’ll receive during road games in Canada?

JJ: Concerned? Absolutely not. I told a friend the other day that I would be extremely disappointed if I showed up in the arena and I wasn’t booed. Being hated by the opposing team’s fans is at least as much of a compliment as being loved by your own. I look forward to getting booed, and I hope our friends up north are willing to oblige.

JS: Thank you very much for your time, and best of luck to you as the season progresses.

JJ: My pleasure. Go Blue!


The interviewer is also saying Jack Mother****ing Johnson WILL be a King in the next couple of months, to bank on it.

By the way, he still wears that Dodger cap all around campus.

The Kings sent him 4 jerseys (2 home, 2 away) with "06" as the number and with his name on the back. I guess he said they were draft jerseys.

2 of the jerseys are hanging in his living room, right next to a framed quote from Peter Karmanos (that I am not allowed to repeat).

You guys are weeks away from witnessing an immensely talented player with a HUGE chip on his shoulder. I am excited both for my best friend and for you as a fan base. Jack can't wait to play for your team.


!Booya! !Booya! !Booya! !Booya! !Booya! !Booya! !Booya!


There is no "hoping" for anything.

He WILL be an LA King in less than 2 months. Take it to the bank. Bet your friends, give them odds.

Pendejo
01-30-2007, 09:50 PM
Hey 24Champ...what do you think of the job Andy Murray has done in STL so far. I always hated his personality, but thought he was a good coach...especially in his early couple of years with the Kings. He had them as a team to contend with. Losing Deader really hurt the franchise...he was playing up to his potential in LA...being a main option. He was my favorite Av before the trade, and I laughed like a bastard when he scored the goal that knocked the wings out of the 2001 playoffs.

Under Murray...the Kings were formidable in those playoffs. They simply lost to a better Avs teams in a ferociously played 7 game series. Quite a coaching job...as I'm sure the game was a bit more intense in LA than coaching at a prep school.

24champ
01-31-2007, 02:54 AM
Hey 24Champ...what do you think of the job Andy Murray has done in STL so far. I always hated his personality, but thought he was a good coach...
He is doing a great job in STL obviously. Personally I think his style of play is too conservative for my liking but Im glad he is doing a good job because now they have a dilemma of whether to buy or sell at the trade deadline since they are in reach of the playoffs. Could drive up the asking price for one of our players, who knows? As for Murray's personality, he was very cool and approachable to all Kings fans. He loved talking with the fans.


He had them as a team to contend with. Losing Deader really hurt the franchise...he was playing up to his potential in LA...being a main option. He was my favorite Av before the trade, and I laughed like a bastard when he scored the goal that knocked the wings out of the 2001 playoffs.

I thought our potential was to go farther than say...2 rounds but you know we hit the injury bug very hard during some of those Murray years. Your right about Deadmarsh, kind of put the brakes on the franchise so to speak.


Under Murray...the Kings were formidable in those playoffs. They simply lost to a better Avs teams in a ferociously played 7 game series. Quite a coaching job...as I'm sure the game was a bit more intense in LA than coaching at a prep school.

What ultimately led to his firing and the gutting of the entire franchise was the fact we were number 2 or 3 at the halfway point of last year in the Western Conference and dropped completely out of the playoffs. The problem was Murray couldn't do anything to save the season or make the playoffs. The fans got sick of the patch-up jobs we seemed to do ever since AEG owned the franchise. So they pretty much gutted the franchise (When I say gutted they fired everyone from scouts to the equipment manager) and put in a whole new organization which is now run by Lombardi and his crew. Im patient with Lombardi seeing that this is the first year and takes time to get things running the way you want it to.Same applies for Crawdad. I suspect in 2-3 years we will be cup contenders. (Yes I am serious.)

Clockwork Orange
02-01-2007, 02:20 AM
Nathan Horton wants out of Florida? (http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/fla070201.html)

Panthers winger Nathan Horton is apparently unhappy with the team and wants out of Florida, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Horton, 21, is set to become a restricted free agent this summer and the Post claims the Panthers could face problems re-signing him.

Horton's Boston-based agent, Paul Krapelka, said Horton's dissatisfaction stems mostly from the team's inability to build a winner.

"He's frustrated at not winning, like everybody else down there," Krapelka told the paper. "The unhappiness is a matter of frustration with the team.

"He may wear it on his sleeve more than other guys. But at no time have we ever asked he be traded."

Horton and Bobby Orr, who heads the agency Krapelka works for, met with Panthers coach and GM Jacques Martin two weeks ago to discuss Horton's situation.

According to the Post, Krapelka is believed to be attempting to orchestrate an offer sheet from another team that the Panthers could be unwilling to match. Martin had not heard of such a report.

Horton has recorded 15 goals and 23 assists for 38 points in 52 games so far this season with the Panthers.

Breck Bronc
02-01-2007, 05:15 PM
Is it time to move this thread to the main board? I always forget to check the subforums after the main board switches to anything-goes mode.

24champ
02-01-2007, 08:25 PM
Capitals make a great deal for Jucina. I think traded Boston their 4th round pick.

Mtbrncofn
02-02-2007, 12:42 AM
That was an important two points to have lost. Damnit.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-02-2007, 01:01 AM
Capitals make a great deal for Jucina. I think traded Boston their 4th round pick.

Not even this year's 4th, but their 4th in '08.

24champ
02-02-2007, 01:12 AM
Not even this year's 4th, but their 4th in '08.

Niiiice. Though Jucina is projected to be a top 4-6 d-man, plus he is still young. Either way its a very low risk trade for the capitals. For the Bruins I have no idea why they did this? Doesnt clear alot of cap space that they need.

Pendejo
02-05-2007, 08:55 PM
The Kings deal Sean Avery to the Rangers. They didn't get the first round pick they were allegedly asking for though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2755356

Mtbrncofn
02-05-2007, 11:18 PM
Yep, I saw that one. Were the Rangers one of the teams that were rumored in the mix for him? Or was I just completely caught off guard?

Killericon
02-06-2007, 12:19 AM
So, who else gets shipped out of L.A.?

Jori
02-06-2007, 01:18 AM
Not a first round pick, but Cliche is a decent prospect. It's a good trade for both teams imo.

Aaron Miller's name has come up a lot. He's even been linked to Colorado, but I see both Miller and Sopel on other teams by the deadline.

As for the Avs, they pretty much have to win 2/3rds of their remaining games to make the playoffs. I'm at the point as to where I'd like them to move Vaananen and Klee and bring up Cumiskey and Boychuk for the rest of the season. I think Klee could fetch a third round pick. A team like Nashville or San Jose may be interested. Both have young bluelines and an experienced vet like Klee would be a vaulable depth player. Some guys like Stuart are going to be overpriced, Klee is a nice bargain and he's having a good year for the Avs. Vaananen is still young, but he's a UFA and I'm not convinced he's in the Avs future plans.

Clockwork Orange
02-06-2007, 01:25 AM
Sean Avery and the New York media.

Oy vey.

Bronx33
02-06-2007, 02:11 PM
The Kings deal Sean Avery to the Rangers. They didn't get the first round pick they were allegedly asking for though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2755356



So the sean avery captain experiment failed? (go figure) these are the same guys that thought cloutier can play goalie as well, and why would the kings think hes worth a first rounder? how fitting he goes off to NY to die like so many others did rangers= NHL bone yard.

Bronx33
02-06-2007, 02:16 PM
CENTENNIAL - The Avalanche might soon get the boost it needs as it tries to make a playoff run.

Defenseman John-Michael Liles, who has missed the past 11 games, and forward Brad May, who was injured during the preseason, could return to the lineup as soon as tonight's game against the Florida Panthers at the Pepsi Center (7, Altitude).

Liles broke his left foot Jan. 6 against Minnesota; May underwent reconstructive surgery on a right shoulder Sept. 28 after being injured during an exhibition game.

Both practiced Monday and a final decision will be made this morning whether they will play against the Panthers.

"They are both really close," coach Joel Quenneville said. "There is a chance they could play (tonight). We'll visit with that (this) morning."

Quenneville believes the players' return might have a positive impact on their teammates.

"May hasn't played all year, so it will certainly be exciting for him and our team to see him back playing," Quenneville said. "Johnny is an important part of our team, and he really helps our power play and our offense. So his return will certainly spark our team, too."

Liles, who has scored 17 of his 29 points on the power play, is eager to have his name erased from the injured reserve list.

"I tried it last week and was doing OK, and then I started to get into the heavy stuff and it is one of those things where it is either good enough or it's not," he said. "Last week, it wasn't good enough. (Monday) was my first day back on the ice in four days, so we'll see.

"Even if we were on a six- or seven-game winning streak, I'd be anxious to get in there. With the circumstances of us being in a playoff race, it makes you want to get back in there even sooner. But the training staff, coaching staff and everybody has agreed we have to make sure that it's good enough to play on and not something where I have to leave in the middle of the game or take more time off."

May, a hard-working, gritty forward, was skating on the fourth line during practice.

"I feel like I can play, I feel like I'm ready," he said. "I was healthy when I got hurt, so you are never protected against getting hurt. I'm certainly not afraid of that.

"There's no question I'm starting to feel pretty healthy. I feel (the shoulder), but I'll probably feel it for the rest of the year, anyway. I can't wait to be able to come back and do my best to contribute.

"It's going to be an awfully exciting finish for us, especially when we make the playoffs. . . . I just want to be a part of that."

The Avalanche has lost four of five and has fallen into 10th place in the Western Conference. The Avalanche is eight points behind Minnesota, which holds the eighth and final playoff position. The Avalanche was only four points behind the Wild before a 5-3 loss Thursday against Minnesota.

"You look at the standings, and every team has a purpose behind every single game and we need to get back in that race," Quenneville said. "It seems like we were there going into the Minnesota game. There's a little gap now, and it creates added urgency to the importance of our games."

Panthers at Avalanche

• When: 7 tonight.

• Where: Pepsi Center.

• TV/radio: Altitude. KKFN-AM (950).

Bronx33
02-06-2007, 02:20 PM
Ohhhh this would be amusing from a fan standpoint...

NEW YORK -- With the NHL trade deadline ticking down to three weeks, the question for the Red Wings is: Deal or no deal?

Pre-salary cap, the Wings often were among the league's biggest buyers. Now, the deadline is earlier, which means fewer teams are out of the running, and everyone must operate within a $44-million budget.

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Last season, the Wings barely made a ripple in acquiring defenseman Cory Cross. This season, general manager Ken Holland is looking to make bigger waves. Even though the Wings' 4-3 victory over the Rangers Monday tied them for second overall in the NHL, they could benefit by adding a top-six forward.

But so could a lot of other teams, and that's why the weeks leading up to Feb. 27 are so engrossing.

"It is going to be interesting, just because of how early the trade deadline is and how many teams think they have a chance to get into the playoffs," Kirk Maltby said. "I think it's not going to be like that last-day thing where you see a hundred trades all at once. I think the last week -- week-and-a-half, whatever -- is going to be done within that time frame."

Chris Chelios pointed out that among the names being mentioned are St. Louis' Bill Guerin and Keith Tkachuk and Philadelphia's Peter Forsberg. The Wings are interested in Forsberg, and the fact that he used to play for Colorado hardly matters. "I would take him in a heartbeat," Chelios said.

Maltby, part of the Detroit-Colorado rivalry during its heyday in the mid-to-late-1990s, said the only two he could never picture in Detroit were Claude Lemieux and Patrick Roy. What about Forsberg?

"It'd be weird, but a guy like that, you'd obviously love to have on your team," Maltby said. "He's all-world. Trust me, if Peter Forsberg is knocking on your door and you have an opportunity to get him, you don't turn that kind of opportunity down."

Forsberg, when healthy, is as clutch as they come and exactly the sort of playoff performer that could help put a team over the top. In the four seasons since the Wings won their last Stanley Cup, they've won one playoff series, and having Forsberg on the bench would help.

"If we can do something without affecting the chemistry of our team," Chelios said, "that'd be great."

NOTEBOOK: Jiri Hudler scored his ninth goal Monday, showing his typical efficiency for a guy who averages 8:33 minutes per game and played just 4:26 against the Rangers. "Huds has that ability just to score -- he's one of these guys that the puck goes in the net for," coach Mike Babcock said. "He gets more goals per minutes played than anybody in the National Hockey League." Hudler's goal, set up by Valtteri Filppula, came 2:31 into the third period and began Detroit's rally. Hudler scored into an empty net from the right side of the crease. "I knew Fill was going to pass to me. I shoot wide, and their D kick it right back to me," Hudler said. "Couldn't miss that one."

Mtbrncofn
02-06-2007, 05:39 PM
I've read that a time or two and it would be horrible. Horrible.

Bronx33
02-06-2007, 05:46 PM
I've read that a time or two and it would be horrible. Horrible.




I knew you wouldn't like it..:~ohyah!:

Mtbrncofn
02-06-2007, 05:58 PM
It would be worse than this strep throat my son kindly shared with me, and that is pretty ****ty.

Pendejo
02-06-2007, 07:03 PM
I've read that a time or two and it would be horrible. Horrible.

From spectorshockey.net today.

PHILLYBURBS.COM/DELAWARE COUNTY TIMES: both reported yesterday Philadelphia Flyers chairman Ed Snider wants to retain captain Peter Forsberg, hoping to extend his contract and vowing to do whatever it takes to keep the talented Swede in Philadelphia. Forsberg was pleased by Snider's comments and hopes to meet with him soon to discuss his and the team's future.

(Edit: It seems like by now someone would have been able go put together a boot for Peter's crooked foot...as apparently right now that's his main problem. It probably causes part of his groin issues as well...seeing as how he has compensate somehow for the discomfort. I'd just as soon he stays in Philly, but if he does stay they need to yank the C off of him, and give it to a more stable [physically, and emotionally] player.)

SoCalBronco
02-06-2007, 11:22 PM
Tyler Arnausson (sp) is really raping for you guys tonight, he's all over the place.

Mtbrncofn
02-06-2007, 11:42 PM
Whew. That's a relief. Arnason was a beast out there tonight, as was Super Joe.

Pendejo
02-07-2007, 09:52 PM
Whew. That's a relief. Arnason was a beast out there tonight, as was Super Joe.

And Lappy had his league leading 14th fight. Sounds like it would've been a great game to watch.

Mtbrncofn
02-08-2007, 01:17 AM
You didn't get to see it? Bummer, it was one of those edge of your seat kind of games.

Mtbrncofn
02-09-2007, 12:15 AM
Hope you didn't see this one, Pendejo. You didn't miss much if you did. Ok, Stastny made some great plays and they had almost 50 SOG, but the rest = le suck.

Pendejo
02-09-2007, 06:46 PM
Hope you didn't see this one, Pendejo. You didn't miss much if you did. Ok, Stastny made some great plays and they had almost 50 SOG, but the rest = le suck.

I don't get to see many games here in San Diego, but I have been able to watch a few via yahoo...and I listen online quite a bit. I think I'll get to see the game on NBC this Sunday.

Bronx33
02-10-2007, 02:01 PM
I don't get to see many games here in San Diego, but I have been able to watch a few via yahoo...and I listen online quite a bit. I think I'll get to see the game on NBC this Sunday.


This is exactly where the NHL is screwing up. they force peeps like pendejo to (buy) NHL packages so they can watch they games they want. Most won't even come close to doing what pendejo is doing to even listen to games, they lost all that loyalty during the work stoppage and they need to earn it back and televise (free games) they are putting the cart in front of the donkey.

Bronx33
02-10-2007, 02:47 PM
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_5340037,00.html

The parallels are eerily similar.

A downtrodden hockey team finishes last in its division for several seasons, misses the playoffs and begins to build a powerhouse with young talent fetched with high draft picks.

Just when it appears the team is ready to make a run at a championship, the franchise is sold and moved to another city.

Sound familiar?

It happened with the Quebec Nordiques, who moved to Colorado in 1995 and won two Stanley Cups as the Avalanche, and the Pittsburgh Penguins could be on the same path.

Led by NHL scoring leader Sidney Crosby and a host of other young stars, the Penguins are making a strong bid to earn a playoff spot for the first time since Mario Lemieux's comeback season in 2000-01.

The Penguins already have surpassed their points totals of the previous two seasons and are near a pace for 100 points, something they have done only three times. (It's remarkable the 1991 and 1992 Stanley Cup teams only had 88 and 87 points.)

But unless the Penguins strike a deal with state and local officials to finance a replacement for 45-year-old Mellon Arena, the team and all its fresh talent will be heading elsewhere - possibly Kansas City, Mo. - after this season.

And the Penguins should only get better once youngsters such as Crosby, 19, Jordan Staal, 18, Evgeni Malkin, 20, and Marc-Andre Fleury, 22, mature. All were the first or second players taken in the past four NHL entry drafts, the rewards for four consecutive last-place finishes in the Atlantic Division.

Fleury has made the biggest strides. Rushed into action after being the first pick in 2003, he wound up in the minors each of the past two seasons and began this season with a 17-41-8 record as a Penguin.

Playing behind a much better group than in his first two NHL seasons, Fleury has learned to relax and already has posted 26 wins and four shutouts.

So far, coach Michel Therrien has been able to keep the players' minds on hockey when the possibility of moving after the season could easily turn into a damaging distraction.

That would be a real shame, and so would leaving Pittsburgh. Fans that stuck with the Penguins through all the bad times deserve to see them grow into one of the NHL's elite.

Bronx33
02-10-2007, 02:54 PM
I know it would be impossible but i would looooooooove to see this guy in a avs sweater...

EDMONTON - If the Edmonton Oilers believe they still have a shot at making the playoffs on, say, Feb. 25, general manager Kevin Lowe likely won't entertain any thoughts of trading free-agent winger Ryan Smyth before the NHL deadline two days later.

But what if the Oilers are 10 points behind the Minnesota Wild for the last post-season spot in the Western Conference in two-and-a-half weeks?

Then what?
Ryan Smyth: Trade clock is tickingView Larger Image View

What if Lowe can't get close to re-signing the 30-year-old left-winger to a four- or five-year contract as the trade deadline clock ticks down?

Doesn't Lowe, at least, have to pay attention to what other Stanley Cup contending teams might offer? You can be rest assured that GMs from teams like the Anaheim Ducks, Dallas Stars, Detroit Red Wings, San Jose Sharks and Carolina Hurricanes would be on their cellphones if the Oilers fall out of the playoff picture in the next few weeks.

What happens if a powerhouse team offers their first- or second-best prospect or a first-round draft pick for Smyth, who bleeds Oilers blue and is the most popular player with local fans.

What if Anaheim GM Brian Burke, for example, offered 19-year-old winger Bobby Ryan, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2005 NHL entry draft, because they could use Smyth to play on a line with Teemu Selanne and Andy McDonald?

Maybe Carolina GM Jim Rutherford says, "here's Andrew Ladd and a draft pick."

Wouldn't Lowe have to listen? Sure. But nobody has called about Smyth -- yet.

Nobody has called up Lowe with a pitch that makes him say, "hmmm!"

NHL general managers obviously feel that Smyth, who's having a terrific season and is on pace to score more than 40 goals despite missing 10 games, will re-sign with the Oilers. Or maybe they don't want to give up anybody of value now for a rental because they might be able to sign him themselves on July 1.

The Oilers are reportedly offering Smyth between $4.25 million US and $4.5 million a season, which probably isn't enough for a player of his calibre.

Smyth is looking for both a long-term contract and more money, quite possibly a five-year, $25-million deal. The Oilers may be willing to sign him for five years, but may not be willing to part with the cash. How about a four-year package?

Smyth turns 31 on Feb. 21, so a five-year pact may be a reach for Lowe and company.

When Glen Sather was in charge of the Oilers, the team didn't sign free-agent goaltender Curtis Joseph before the 1998 trade deadline and opted not to move him because they needed to make the playoffs and make some money for the owners. Cujo got the club into the post-season and they won a round before he left for the Toronto Maple Leafs, grabbing a four-year $24 million deal.

During Lowe's tenure, Doug Weight was traded when money was definitely an issue. He also dealt Bill Guerin before it became one.

Lowe thought defenceman Eric Brewer was going to cost him too much down the road, so he had no trouble putting him in the Chris Pronger deal with the St. Louis Blues in August 2005.

That has always been Lowe's modus operandi: Get something if you can't afford a player. But Weight and Guerin were moved before the salary cap and Lowe absolutely knew he couldn't pay either star in the old free-spending NHL.

For now, Lowe still plans on signing Smyth before the trade deadline. Lowe feels Smyth, who was sixth overall in the 1994 draft, is the perfect Oiler.

As for Smyth, he also has to know he has a good thing going here. Neither the Oilers, nor Smyth's agent have slammed down the phone because they're insulted with negotiations thus far.

Lowe seems more interested right now in acquiring a puck-moving defenceman. He's a buyer, not a seller.
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The Oilers are being careful about the Bruins' Brad Stuart. Boston has reportedly asked for more from the Oilers (a roster player and a solid prospect or a high draft pick). They're not going all out to get him because, like most teams, they feel Stuart wants to return to California (his wife is from there) and there's a good chance he'll sign a free-agent deal this summer with the Los Angeles Kings. His old GM, Dean Lombardi, drafted Stuart for the Sharks.

jmatheson@thejournal.canwest.com

Bronx33
02-10-2007, 03:14 PM
I got a chuckle out of this...


Sean Avery and Mark Messier decide to go ice-fishing together. They drive out to a nice patch of ice and bring all their ice fishing tools. They find a good spot and begin to cut into the ice. Suddenly, a voice rings out of nowhere:

"There are no fish under the ice..."

Startled, the two look around and see nobody. They pick up their stuff and move to another part of the ice. The voice rings out again:

"There are NO fish under the ice..."

They move again and start cutting again. The voice announces:

"There are NO FISH under the ice!"

Avery looks up and says, "Is that you God?" And the voice replies:

"No, this is the announcer for GM Place. Now get the hell off of the ice!"

Bronx33
02-10-2007, 03:56 PM
Some jerseys should never have been thought of, this picture is for humor purposes only..

http://www.gijsgrizzlies.nl/cms/upload/fotoalbum/gijs_dordrecht_compe_1b7ae6.jpg

Killericon
02-11-2007, 10:53 PM
Confirmed deal: Stuart, Primeau and a Conditional 4th to the Flames for Ference and Kobasew.

It's a good deal for a potential run, and if Stuart can resign, it'll have been a great deal(But we won't get the 4th). Definitely the last of our moves.

Good or Bad? I personally love it, from the Flames' perspective.

Hercules Rockefeller
02-12-2007, 01:13 PM
Boston has made some terrible trades lately: Thornton, Jurcina, and now Stuart. Actually that conditional pick in the Stuart trade is the pick the B's are owed for Jurcina.

Nagy goes to Dallas for Tjarnqvist and a 1st.

Looks like Kolzig got hurt in practice today, so that should put the Caps in seller's mode if they weren't already.

Jens1893
02-12-2007, 09:50 PM
Detroit just got killed by the Flyers. 6-1 Philly.

Mtbrncofn
02-12-2007, 11:43 PM
That was quite the game. Where has that Philly been all year?

Pendejo
02-13-2007, 02:26 AM
That was quite the game. Where has that Philly been all year?

Circling the drain.

Mtbrncofn
02-13-2007, 11:12 AM
That Philly wouldn't be circling the drain if they'd played like that all year.

Mtbrncofn
02-14-2007, 12:00 AM
Incredible game by Budaj! We should have known this would be a win though. They always get it together for the best teams in the league.

Pendejo
02-14-2007, 12:08 AM
That Philly wouldn't be circling the drain if they'd played like that all year.

Nonsense Mt...they've got a bunch of gutless pukes on the roster in Philly. Otherwise how do you explain how much they've sucked this year...and still manage to stomp the Deadthings.

Saying that...how is your boy coming along in his driving. Will we see him on the circuit soon? You haven't stunted his growth have you? From your report that youngster is one who completely understands what it means to put the pedal to the metal. Don't you take that away from him Mt...don't you do that.

Back on topic. F Detroit!!!!!

Mtbrncofn
02-14-2007, 12:20 AM
Nonsense Mt...they've got a bunch of gutless pukes on the roster in Philly. Otherwise how do you explain how much they've sucked this year...and still manage to stomp the Deadthings.

Saying that...how is your boy coming along in his driving. Will we see him on the circuit soon? You haven't stunted his growth have you? From your report that youngster is one who completely understands what it means to put the pedal to the metal. Don't you take that away from him Mt...don't you do that.

Back on topic. F Detroit!!!!!

LOL You're right. Did I mention I have a sinus infection and it's probably gone up to my brain by now? It's clouding all judgement I have concerning non-important things like the Flyers.

Ha ha...we do not discuss my son driving at this house. That's just asking for trouble. We never discussed it before and look what happened!

He's taken on wrestling. Just started. Big step for my kiddo, cuz honestly he's kind of a wimp. We'll see how this works out.

Tredici
02-14-2007, 01:22 AM
Don't look now but the two Av rookies are finally getting a mention....


The race for the Calder Trophy boasts another bumper crop of rookies this season including forward Evgeni Malkin, who is providing spark for the Pittsburgh Penguins, Matthew Carle, an offensively gifted defenseman who is averaging 19 minutes of ice time per game with the San Jose Sharks, and center Anze Kopitar, who has been a standout with the Los Angeles Kings. But don’t think any player has a lock on the award. Not by a long shot.

Keep an eye on Paul Stastny of the Colorado Avalanche and Dustin Penner of the Anaheim Ducks; both are enjoying outstanding freshman campaigns. And don’t forget the Avalanche’s other rookie phenom - Wojtek Wolski, who got off to a great start with three goals in his first four games. Today, Wolski ranks among the league’s rookie leaders in all offensive categories including goals, assists, points and shooting percentage. He joins Stastny to form one of the elite young tandems in the league and provide the Avalanche plenty of reason to be optimistic about the future.

"They are both young kids that we think have tremendous offensive upside,” says Colorado head coach Joel Quenneville. "Wolski has an NHL shot that is quick and has some pace to it. He is big and strong and he can also make plays. He and Stastny had some chemistry right out of training camp. Wolski’s future is great.”

His past is not too shabby either.

Colorado’s first-round pick (21st overall) in the 2004 Entry Draft earned the Red Tilson Trophy as the most outstanding player in the Ontario Hockey League last season where he collected 47 goals and 81 assists in only 56 games with the Brampton Battalion. He added a second piece of silverware last season as the recipient of the William Hanley Trophy for being the league’s most gentlemanly player. All of these awards came after he made an impressive NHL debut in 2005-06 by notching six points in nine regular-season games with the Avs.

That type of production would usually mean “Go get an apartment kid, you’re staying with the big team.” But patience is a mantra in Colorado and being a minus player during his debut last season, Wolski returned to his junior club for an extra year of seasoning.

Did Wolski sulk about the detour? No. The kid has too much character. That character comes to him naturally as the son of a Polish stonemason who journeyed to Canada after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Wojtek was only 4-years-old when he moved with his family to Mississauga, Ontario. They were short on money when they arrived in their new land, but long on character. That quality showed through in Wolski last season as he embraced the challenge of returning to junior hockey - much to the chagrin of his OHL opponents.

"Character… that’s why he was able to go back to junior and take off,” says San Jose Sharks Chief Scout Tim Burke. “He comes from a good family, a hard-working family that came over from Poland. He’s a good kid. You don’t get ‘I’m this and I’m that.’ He didn’t go back (to junior) with an attitude that 'I’m coming back from the NHL.' Being sent down … that’s a rude awakening. He wasn’t in the NHL last year for just a week. Wolski was there longer than most guys and then when Colorado sent him back he led that Brampton team and he didn’t miss a beat.

“There was no lackluster play,” continues Burke. “What a year he had last year! He dominated the league and people talk about him on the power play, well, you should have seen him in junior. You name it … shoot … look away and shoot … bang … he surprises you … quick diagonal passes. Wolski is gifted. He’s exciting. I watched him a lot in Brampton because we had a kid that was drafted there. Wolski played pretty good in Colorado last year and then they sent him back to junior and he tore that league up. That’s the good thing about this kid, when he came back he was exciting.”

The 6-foot-3, 200 pound winger again showed his character after being a healthy scratch against the Anaheim Ducks on Nov. 22. What did Wolski do about it? He let his actions do the talking, responding with a four point night on Nov. 25 and figured in all goals in the Avalanche's 4-1 victory over the Vancouver Canucks. That takes character. But not character alone. It also takes a ton of talent.

"He’s got a lot of moves,” Burke said. “He’s got stronger and he can really find secondary options. This kid is a good player, a real good player. I don’t know if he is going to end up being a center or a wing, but from an offensive standpoint of a hockey player being able to make quick plays and use the puck with speed this kid has got it. I think he’s like a hybrid because he can both shoot and pass.”

Wojtek Wolski scored three goals in his first four games, and is among the League leaders in all rookie offensive categories.

The Avalanche team captain agrees.

"Wojtek is big, he’s crafty with the puck and he has a lot of speed,” says Joe Sakic. “He used his size well and he has a great shot. There’s not too many guys that go to the net like him. He gets that puck and he challenges the defense. He is an exciting player and is always in the right spot.”
Wolski admits to being in the right spot in more ways than one.

“Every chance I could have got to succeed I definitely got,” says Wolski. “Right from the beginning of junior hockey I got to stay home and I got a good opportunity to play on the power play for four years. I’ve been working hard with the Avalanche and the guys on my team have definitely welcomed me. My teammates have tried to help me along and the coaching staff has given me a great opportunity to do well and to stay in the NHL. I’ve got such a good chance to play with so many great players here to help me along. Players like Joe (Sakic) and Pierre (Turgeon) tell me about their experiences as a young player so the support from the players around you really helps.”

Support is important when you’re winning but it’s even more critical when you are not winning hockey games.

“That’s so true,” says Wolski. “When you are not winning games people are not happy and the organization isn’t happy so things can change pretty quickly. But if you have that support with guys helping you out and everybody is working hard there’s not much more you can ask as a team.”

And what is expected from Wolski as an individual?

“I’m trying to create as many opportunities as I can every time I’m on the ice,” says Wolski. “But I have to realize that the better you play defensively the more you have the puck. That’s the one thing that the coaching staff try to make sure that I remember. I try to make sure that we get the puck back as quickly as possible. Keeping a third guy high in the offensive zone is definitely helping with that and getting back and picking up a guy is important. I’m expected to score goals more than being a defensive force but I try my best in all areas of the game.”

The talented winger is big enough to compete in the trenches, along the wall and in front of the net, but there is one element of play in the NHL that surprised him a little.

"The quickness of the game,” says Wolski. “It’s a long season with 82 games, but guys seem to come in every single night and play hard. You definitely have to be ready both physically and mentally for each game. Sometimes it wears on you with so much going on but there’s no place I would rather be than playing in the NHL. I look forward to it every day.”

Tredici
02-14-2007, 01:26 AM
And also congrats to Budaj for being selected the NHL Number One Star

(All though I swear to God, Quinneville was doing all he could this past week to create goalie stress and ruin Budaj along with TheOdor.)

Player Notes:
THIS SEASON - Has started 16 of the last 19 games and 20 of the last 26, posting a 11-6-2 record in those 20 games. - Three of his 13 losses this season have come in relief....Is 16-10-3 in 30 starts. - Is 3-2 in shootouts this year, allowing six goals in 16 attempts. - Budaj's .903 career save percentage ranks fourth in franchise history (min. 50 GP)...Patrick Roy is first at .918. - Went 7-2-2 in 11 starts during the month of January with a .914 save percentage (350 shots, 30 goals). - Only Martin Brodeur and Roberto Luongo (8 each) recorded more wins last month. - Participated in the NHL's Young Stars Game on Jan. 23 in Dallas. - Started 12 consecutive games, Dec. 29 - Jan. 26, posting a 6-4-2 record with a 2.70 GAA and .910 save pct. (710 minutes, 354 shots, 32 goals). - Recorded a career-high 40 saves in a 4-3 shootout loss to the Red Wings on Jan. 9. - Posted a career-best four-game winning streak from Dec. 11-19. - Compiled a shutout streak of 120:49 from Nov. 7-18. - Notched his third NHL shutout with a 3-0 blanking at Columbus on Nov. 17 (25 saves). SEASON HIGHS Saves: 40, Jan. 9 vs. Detroit (career high) Consecutive Starts: 12, Dec. 29 - Jan. 26 Consecutive Wins: 4, Dec. 11-19 Shutout Streak: 120:49, Nov. 7-18

Mtbrncofn
02-14-2007, 12:51 PM
I really would be upset with this kind of trade. I know, its probably best for the club, but man how many favorites can a gal lose in three years?!

From Spectors:
LAPERRIERE ON THE BLOCK?

RDS.CA: Luc Gelinas reported yesterday it's possible the Colorado Avalanche might place gritty forward Ian Laperriere on the trade block should the club fall further out of the playoff race by the deadline. Gelinas suggests Lapierrere might be of interest to Montreal Canadiens GM Bob Gainey, who isn't likely to sacrifice the future to acquire Peter Forsberg or Todd Bertuzzi for a quick fix to his club's current woes.

Mtbrncofn
02-14-2007, 06:04 PM
Hey if anyone needs to regurgitate their lunch for any reason, head on over to the Avs main board and read all the Theo love over there. Seriously, it's revolting.

They're drinking the special kool-aid over there or something.