Reggie Bush saves the day!!!

[freak6]

Dude finally got in the endzone. Gives the Saints the lead. Whoever took the under of that game with me is screwed.

Oh well. Good for Bush.

The Texans are so dumb for passing on him imo.

[Orange_Beard]

Where is that jackass with the bush/bust thing?

[enjolras]

Wow.. so Bush is tied with Peyton Manning for rush TD's now?

It's still really hard for me to fault the Texans for taking a impact defensive player over Bush. I would have done the same... every time. RB's are a huge durability risk.

[freak6]

Wow.. so Bush is tied with Peyton Manning for rush TD's now?

It's still really hard for me to fault the Texans for taking a impact defensive player over Bush. I would have done the same... every time. RB's are a huge durability risk.

I think it was a terrible decision. The Texans offense could use the running game. We'll see in 5 years I suppose. But i look at it as passing on the next Marshall Faulk.

[Requiem]

Not really dumb. Notice how nobody said anything about how well Mario played last week against Miami? It's not like Bush would have done much behind that line anyways, and they needed help on defense. Made sense to me.

[Requiem]

Also, why not get a stud RB this year in the draft? Sure, no Reggie Bush -- but with that offense, they just need a guy who can carry the rock, not a superstar.

[Garcia Bronco]

Wow.. so Bush is tied with Peyton Manning for rush TD's now?

It's still really hard for me to fault the Texans for taking a impact defensive player over Bush. I would have done the same... every time. RB's are a huge durability risk.

It was a punt return I believe

[Garcia Bronco]

I think it was a terrible decision. The Texans offense could use the running game. We'll see in 5 years I suppose. But i look at it as passing on the next Marshall Faulk.

Bush isn't making a living off of running the football as a running back....coming into today he had about 150...

[Garcia Bronco]

Wow.. so Bush is tied with Peyton Manning for rush TD's now?

It's still really hard for me to fault the Texans for taking a impact defensive player over Bush. I would have done the same... every time. RB's are a huge durability risk.

I believe the average career is 4-5 years...maybe 6

[elsid13]

I going to get flak - but like I said before faster version of Eric Metcalf*, the Cleveland years

* or as bronco pull a bigger Glyn Milburn

Metcalf stats in those years

Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1989.htm) | 16 | 187 633 3.4 6 | 54 397 7.4 4 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1990.htm) | 16 | 80 248 3.1 1 | 57 452 7.9 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1991.htm) | 8 | 30 107 3.6 0 | 29 294 10.1 0 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1992.htm) | 16 | 73 301 4.1 1 | 47 614 13.1 5 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1993.htm) | 16 | 129 611 4.7 1 | 63 539 8.6 2 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1994.htm) | 16 | 93 329 3.5 2 | 47 436 9.3 3 |

[Garcia Bronco]

I going to get flak - but like I said before faster version of Eric Metcalf*, the Cleveland years

* or as bronco pull a bigger Glyn Milburn

Metcalf stats in those years

Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1989.htm) | 16 | 187 633 3.4 6 | 54 397 7.4 4 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1990.htm) | 16 | 80 248 3.1 1 | 57 452 7.9 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1991.htm) | 8 | 30 107 3.6 0 | 29 294 10.1 0 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1992.htm) | 16 | 73 301 4.1 1 | 47 614 13.1 5 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1993.htm) | 16 | 129 611 4.7 1 | 63 539 8.6 2 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1994.htm) | 16 | 93 329 3.5 2 | 47 436 9.3 3 |

I agree...and Metcalf had a great career.

[watermock]

Bush was having some huge character issues regarding "potential" agents and other stuff right before the draft. I would of still taken Bush but he was wanting a kings ransom to boot. I really can't blame the Saints.

Kubiak doesn't have what Dubya would call "Political Capital" yet. I'm sure MoC stuck in his mind, just a bit, and other head cases. Reggie was just "wetting his beak" on the take. That didn't turn out so good.

[Garcia Bronco]

I don't see the kid taking money or his family doing the same as a character issue at....he generated so much capital for USC that he deserved to get paid....millions he helped generate. I just think a DE is a better bet in the top 10.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I think it was a terrible decision. The Texans offense could use the running game. We'll see in 5 years I suppose. But i look at it as passing on the next Marshall Faulk.

His potential is alot different than a player in the Faulk mold. Faulk could run between the tackles well.

I would expect Bush to be more of a utility player. A third down and long back and a change of pace back who can show different looks. He's not a "real" RB. He's more like a WR lined up in the backfield.

He scored on a punt return today, and that's great. That's what we should expect him to do. Unfortunately, those things only happen a few times a season in a great season for a player who's strength is in that skill set. That's part of the reason why its hard to select a player like that in the first round of the draft. If he played for another college, he might have been a mid-late first round selection instead of where he was selected.

The Eric Metcalf comparison is probably the best that Ive heard.

[freak6]

I just think a DE is a better bet in the top 10.


I disagree. I think generally, you are correct. But in this instance, I think Reggie Bush brings so much more to the field than just RB. He is a weapon that you can use all over, as he showed today.

Would you pass on Marshall Faulk?

[epicSocialism4tw]

I don't see the kid taking money or his family doing the same as a character issue at....he generated so much capital for USC that he deserved to get paid....millions he helped generate.

That's a different issue altogether. According to the rules agreed upon by our federal government and the NCAA, Bush is in the wrong, no doubt about that.

I'm with you in the camp that those guys should get a stipend though. They raise a ridiculous amount of money.


I just think a DE is a better bet in the top 10.

Agreed. A dominant line player is worth two or three good skill players (great players are something different-a great RB has a short shelf life today, so they arent even worth it). Its worth it to take that chance.

[bfoflcommish]

23 rush yards for the best rb in the draft.....so basically it was a #2 overall punt returner!! Sweet

wouldn't rather have maroney, addai, or deangelo, hell even lendale did decent today.

[Kaylore]

It's great to see the Saints play like they are. On another note, that Gradkowski kid looks legit.

[Garcia Bronco]

I disagree. I think generally, you are correct. But in this instance, I think Reggie Bush brings so much more to the field than just RB. He is a weapon that you can use all over, as he showed today.

Would you pass on Marshall Faulk?

What's the other half of the equation?

[epicSocialism4tw]

It's great to see the Saints play like they are. On another note, that Gradkowski kid looks legit.

Rooting against the Saints is like spitting on Charity.

[elsid13]

Rooting against the Saints is like spitting on Charity.

Horse pucky. The Saints are football team full of guys that make millions of dollars owned by guy that wants to move the team to San Antonio. Why isn't right to root against them???

[epicSocialism4tw]

Horse pucky. The Saints are football team full of guys that make millions of dollars owned by guy that wants to move the team to San Antonio. Why isn't right to root against them???

Because you are also rooting against their fans.

[freak6]

Mario Williams is the other half of the equation Garcia.

Personally, I think the Saints run blocking is terrible. Deuce had 2 big runs where he was shaking off tacklers. They need to draft some lineman imo. Bush hasn't had holes to run through. He looks like Winder right now. Give him a Tackle to seal the edge.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Mario Williams is the other half of the equation Garcia.
Personally, I think the Saints run blocking is terrible. Deuce had 2 big runs where he was shaking off tacklers. They need to draft some lineman imo. Bush hasn't had holes to run through. He looks like Winder right now. Give him a Tackle to seal the edge.


I dont see any reason not to give McAllister the carries. He's the back that can make things happen between the tackles, and he's proving to be over his injury. He's the best player on that offense.

[freak6]

I dont see any reason not to give McAllister the carries. He's the back that can make things happen between the tackles, and he's proving to be over his injury. He's the best player on that offense.

Agreed, because the line can't block and open up holes for the speedster.

[Garcia Bronco]

Mario Williams is the other half of the equation Garcia.

Personally, I think the Saints run blocking is terrible. Deuce had 2 big runs where he was shaking off tacklers. They need to draft some lineman imo. Bush hasn't had holes to run through. He looks like Winder right now. Give him a Tackle to seal the edge.

Who is my choice over Faulk?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Agreed, because the line can't block and open up holes for the speedster.


Bush is not a 25 carry guy no matter how you slice it.

[freak6]

Bush is not a 25 carry guy no matter how you slice it.

Not arguing that. But he could be a 18 carry guy, and with an O-line he will be awesome.

1000/1000 ala Roger Craig.

[elsid13]

Because you are also rooting against their fans.

Only ESPN makes that connection. People need to remember that Football is not life.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Only ESPN makes that connection. People need to remember that Football is not life.

That's not true. How many of the boys and girls who frequent this site would be drawn back together to share hope in their NFL team if they had lost everything and were scattered across the American South? Many of them. How many would have a better week if Denver was 4-1 after sucking forever? How many New Orleaners would seek to find friends to travel back home to watch the new, honorable Saints? How many might check out some local real estate while they are there?

The Saints wont change the situation in the 9th ward, but they will help to take away the pain for awhile. That's good enough for me.

[broncofan]

Not that I necessarily agree with Williams being taken over Bush, but the fact that everyone feels the necessity to evaluate the decision as if it happened years ago is a little pointless IMO. Mario will get it going eventually.

Oh, and Bush went in untouched on a punt return...how 'bout a little love for his blockers? Kudos to that breakaway speed though. If his unique talents are utilized properly by coaches he'll be a star for years.

[Clockwork Orange]

Bush has also caught 34 passes for 250 yards in 5 games.

He's a weapon in the Brian Westbrook mold. That aint a bad thing to be.

[-Slap-]

Bush is going to be fine and Mario Williams will be a good player, too. The only player picked in the top five who's played well so far is D-Brickashaw and he's had some rough patches, too. Paul Spicer pretty much ate his lunch yesterday.

[Orange_Beard]

Paul Spicer eats a many a free lunch.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I going to get flak - but like I said before faster version of Eric Metcalf*, the Cleveland years

* or as bronco pull a bigger Glyn Milburn

Metcalf stats in those years

Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1989 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1989.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1989.htm) | 16 | 187 633 3.4 6 | 54 397 7.4 4 |
| 1990 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1990.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1990.htm) | 16 | 80 248 3.1 1 | 57 452 7.9 1 |
| 1991 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1991.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1991.htm) | 8 | 30 107 3.6 0 | 29 294 10.1 0 |
| 1992 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1992.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1992.htm) | 16 | 73 301 4.1 1 | 47 614 13.1 5 |
| 1993 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1993.htm) | 16 | 129 611 4.7 1 | 63 539 8.6 2 |
| 1994 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1994.htm) cle (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle1994.htm) | 16 | 93 329 3.5 2 | 47 436 9.3 3 |

I always said he is a faster more elusive Dave Meggett but Milburn works as well.

[Rock Chalk]

Bush is going to be fine and Mario Williams will be a good player, too. The only player picked in the top five who's played well so far is D-Brickashaw and he's had some rough patches, too. Paul Spicer pretty much ate his lunch yesterday.

D'Brick can block downfield and get there in a hurry. He'd be awesome in Denver.

[bendog]

Bush is avging over 100 yds total offense per game. funny thing was that he Really didn't want to go to the 'aints. But, looking at it now, I thinks it's obvious the Texans are much much worse than commonly thought even when they had the worse record in the league. Bush would've gotten killed there, and be labled bust by now in the idiot media.

Conversely, the 'aints imploded with Brooks playing himself out of town and Duece going down. And, Hatless Jim Haslett fielded a defense that teams ran up the middle on. Defensive genius, maybe, but way out of his depth as head coach. He simply couldn't manage his own staff, let alone a team. But, they brought in a def tackle and mlb from the eagles, and they're looking ok. I've always thought mckenzie and thomas/craft are a bit underrated. And they have the two DEs. The interior of the oline is where the season will be made or lost. So far, it looks like a good fit for Bush. He doesn't have to fill any one position, and they can look to exploit matchups.

[freak6]

Bush is avging over 100 yds total offense per game. funny thing was that he Really didn't want to go to the 'aints.

Definitely a great fit for Reggie Bush in NO. I can't figure out his lack of rushing yards though.

[bendog]

Definitely a great fit for Reggie Bush in NO. I can't figure out his lack of rushing yards though.

Nawlins oline is very iffy. Deuce is a load to bring down. He can break a tackle up the middle, and he uses his outside blockers very well. Reggie seems to need holes, and so far, he hasn't been too patient, imo. I really don't see him as a 20 carry guy.