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Florida_Bronco
10-05-2006, 05:10 PM
Just like the title says...what is your defintion or idea of running up the score on a team? Please explain as well.

JBucc
10-05-2006, 05:12 PM
I would only consider it running up the score if the losing team has given up and puts their backups in and the winning team still leaves in their starters. If the losing team is still playing hard I say the other team has the right to do that as well and try to score.

DomCasual
10-05-2006, 05:15 PM
It depends on who you are playing. There is no such thing as running up the score when you are playing the Chiefs or Raiders.

DenverBrit
10-05-2006, 05:22 PM
So far, there's no danger of Denver running up the score.
That won't change Mon night.........but if it does, it's ok! :clown:

Bronx33
10-05-2006, 05:25 PM
When we played the 49ers in the superbowl........

OrangeShadow
10-05-2006, 05:26 PM
Running up the score(run-ing up the score)
-adjective
1. playing the radiers.

kappys
10-05-2006, 05:27 PM
I'd agree with JBucc to some extent. I think that if you have a sizeable lead, which is hard to pin exactly but lets say above 21 points, then it would be running up the score to leave in your star players in the 4th quarter. I say give the key guys on defense and offense a rest and let some backups in.

2KBack
10-05-2006, 05:32 PM
I'd say playcalling later in the game has a lot to do with it. IF you are up by 20 points and are still throwing bombs, with no consideration put into taking time off the clock, then you are running up the score.

Florida_Bronco
10-05-2006, 05:33 PM
I'd say playcalling later in the game has a lot to do with it. IF you are up by 20 points and are still throwing bombs, with no consideration put into taking time off the clock, then you are running up the score.

I'd agree with that.

Rock Chalk
10-05-2006, 06:05 PM
It depends on who you are playing. There is no such thing as running up the score when you are playing the Chiefs or Raiders.

Id agree though Id add another stipulation:

It is never OK to score more points than the Broncos, thats running up the score and foul play.

Northman
10-05-2006, 06:11 PM
No such thing. Its not up to the offense to scale back. Its up to the opposing defense to stop them.

Bronx33
10-05-2006, 06:17 PM
I would say the game is well in hand and you taking long passes at the endzone on first and 4th downs knowing dang well your D will bail ya out.

Rock Chalk
10-05-2006, 06:17 PM
No such thing. Its not up to the offense to scale back. Its up to the opposing defense to stop them.

I bet you dont think that if your kid was playing in a game where the opponent scored like 60 points to your kids teams zero points.

There is a thing as sportsmanship. Its up to the winning team to show it if the opposition is clearly outmatched and CANT stop them.

MechanicalBull
10-05-2006, 06:18 PM
I'd say playcalling later in the game has a lot to do with it. IF you are up by 20 points and are still throwing bombs, with no consideration put into taking time off the clock, then you are running up the score.

I was going to say the same exact thing. If you score late in the game while having a big lead that doesn't bother me as long as you are trying to run out the clock while doing it.

When I first saw the topic I quickly thought of the Colts playing the Texans a couple weeks back, Indy was up by a sizeable lead and Peyton was still slinging the ball around to his receivers for like 20-30yd gains in the 4th qtr.

2KBack
10-05-2006, 06:21 PM
I was going to say the same exact thing. If you score late in the game while having a big lead that doesn't bother me as long as you are trying to run out the clock while doing it.

When I first saw the topic I quickly thought of the Colts playing the Texans a couple weeks back, Indy was up by a sizeable lead and Peyton was still slinging the ball around to his receivers for like 20-30yd gains in the 4th qtr.

Exactly, if a running back breaks loose and scores or something it isn't running up the score. I don't expect people to just run out of bounds or something. It's just pretty weak if you are obviously trying to strike quickly and often when you are already signifigantly ahead.

Northman
10-05-2006, 06:27 PM
I bet you dont think that if your kid was playing in a game where the opponent scored like 60 points to your kids teams zero points.

There is a thing as sportsmanship. Its up to the winning team to show it if the opposition is clearly outmatched and CANT stop them.


Actually, i wouldnt care. Its just a game and sometimes some teams are that much better than others. I didnt hear a whole lot of complaining by people when Denver was getting raped by SF in their Super Bowl meeting.

2KBack
10-05-2006, 06:29 PM
Actually, i wouldnt care. Its just a game and sometimes some teams are that much better than others. I didnt hear a whole lot of complaining by people when Denver was getting raped by SF in their Super Bowl meeting.


I certainly complained

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-05-2006, 06:33 PM
Just like the title says...what is your defintion or idea of running up the score on a team? Please explain as well.

When the Bronco are ahead of the Charmins at Narrowhead on Thanksgiving by a score of 42-3 in the 4th quarter and Cutler makes his first appearance and throws for two more TDs.

Rock Chalk
10-05-2006, 06:35 PM
Actually, i wouldnt care. Its just a game and sometimes some teams are that much better than others. I didnt hear a whole lot of complaining by people when Denver was getting raped by SF in their Super Bowl meeting.

Obviously you were no where near Denver at the time.

I was in Denver, and everyone I know was complaining about the bitch ass whiners running up the score.

Northman
10-05-2006, 06:37 PM
I certainly complained


Why? we just got totally outplayed. We got beat by a superior team. If people are that concerned about high scores maybe they ought to look REAL hard into college football. Smaller schools get ass raped every week by top 25 teams yet nobody says anything about it. Its just the way it is. In all honesty, when my college team loses real bad i just laugh my ass off. And if my team wins big i throw my fist in the air.

Northman
10-05-2006, 06:39 PM
Obviously you were no where near Denver at the time.

I was in Denver, and everyone I know was complaining about the b**** ass whiners running up the score.


I was in Denver at the time and hardly anyone said anything about it. Most people were just pissed we lost. But i never heard the media complain about the score.

2KBack
10-05-2006, 07:00 PM
Why? we just got totally outplayed. We got beat by a superior team. If people are that concerned about high scores maybe they ought to look REAL hard into college football. Smaller schools get ass raped every week by top 25 teams yet nobody says anything about it. Its just the way it is. In all honesty, when my college team loses real bad i just laugh my ass off. And if my team wins big i throw my fist in the air.

In College margin of victory actually matters.

It's a respect thing with me. I want my team to win the game, but I'm not in favor of humiliating people, that is just poor sportsmanship. I guess it is simply a principal I was raised with.

As for the Denver vs SF specifically. I was in 5th grade, so I'm sketchy on the details. Most of my complaining in regards to SF running up the score came from the adults I was around (I dd live in Colorado springs at the time).

Taco John
10-05-2006, 07:01 PM
I consider it awesome when you're the one doing it. I never begrudge a team who finds the endzone. That's their purpose, regardless of the score. In fact, I don't see it as sportsmanship to let up. I see it as weakness. Fortunes can turn quick in the course of 60 minutes. Buffalo vs. the Oilers comes to mind.

Dedhed
10-05-2006, 07:06 PM
No such thing. Its not up to the offense to scale back. Its up to the opposing defense to stop them.

I would agree with this take on the professional level, but with a stipulation or two.
1-You should at least have you're backups playing once the outcome is no longer in doubt.
2-If you can take a knee and end the game and choose not to, you're "running up the score".

High School and College are a different story.

DBroncos4life
10-05-2006, 07:15 PM
Steve Spurier

BroncoMan4ever
10-05-2006, 07:26 PM
Screw that, i say that football is a man's sport and men are supposed to do all they can. So if that means running the score up then do it. It is the defenses job to stop an offense, not the offense's responsibilty to help an opponent save face.

kappys
10-05-2006, 08:06 PM
Lets say your team is up big and on defense and the CB intercepts the ball with 2:00 minutes left, would it be running up the score to try and return it for the TD?

ludo21
10-05-2006, 08:10 PM
Lets say your team is up big and on defense and the CB intercepts the ball with 2:00 minutes left, would it be running up the score to try and return it for the TD?



no, the D doesnt get their hands on the ball enough, if their is a shot for the endzone, they gotta go for it.

kappys
10-05-2006, 08:12 PM
So could it be argued that the defense should play soft if they have a huge lead or is it Kosher to go for the shutout if you can get it?

Bob's your Information Minister
10-05-2006, 08:21 PM
If you're ahead by four touchdowns or more with under ten minutes to go, and you're throwing it around trying to score, that's running it up.

ludo21
10-05-2006, 08:23 PM
So could it be argued that the defense should play soft if they have a huge lead or is it Kosher to go for the shutout if you can get it?

if a team is trying to catch up, its a totally different situation imo.

watermock
10-05-2006, 08:43 PM
If you're ahead by four touchdowns or more with under ten minutes to go, and you're throwing it around trying to score, that's running it up.

Classic Bobspeak. What do you call running up the score to 41-0? We held you idiots to two field goals. I find it incredibly ironic you could possibly make a thread when your own beloved team bubbed it in the nose for two more scores.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-05-2006, 08:47 PM
We were up 34-0 after three quarters. Dante Hall's punt runback can't really be qualified as running it up.

watermock
10-05-2006, 09:04 PM
The thread said 4 touchdowns. that's 28.

I honstly don't care because we are going to kcik your ass on Thanksgivine anyway.

Bob's your Information Minister
10-05-2006, 09:08 PM
Keep dreaming.

watermock
10-05-2006, 09:10 PM
Steve Spurier

That clown limped away very quickly.

2KBack
10-05-2006, 09:15 PM
So could it be argued that the defense should play soft if they have a huge lead or is it Kosher to go for the shutout if you can get it?


I don't even include defense in the Running up the score equation. Defense should play like normal.

-Slap-
10-05-2006, 09:19 PM
What Wyche and Glanville used to do to each other.

ZachKC
10-05-2006, 10:10 PM
I don't really think there is running up the score in the NFL.

listopencil
10-05-2006, 10:29 PM
I don't really think there is running up the score in the NFL.



I tend to agree with you, although what I've seen in the NFL is a team run the clock out when they have a big lead late in the game. I've also seen a team just kneel in the "Victory Formation" when they are in scoring range to run out the clock. I consider that good sportsmanship. On the collegiate level I believe point differential is still factored in to ranking. As long as it is every team should try to score as much as possible regardless of the situation. From High School on down I've mostly seen teams send in the back ups when the game is decided before it is over.


I guess "running up the score" is all about playcalling in my view. You can't expect players to pull back or lay off. It's not safe. So I would consider it to be when a coach is gameplanning to get into the endzone as the highest priority even though the game has been decided.

fdf
10-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Just like the title says...what is your defintion or idea of running up the score on a team? Please explain as well.

Well, against Oakland, KC, or Indianapolis, anything more than 500-0 would be runnning the score up and would demonstrate bad sportsmanship. Anything below that would be a well deserved humiliation.

cabronco
10-05-2006, 10:47 PM
I tend to agree with you, although what I've seen in the NFL is a team run the clock out when they have a big lead late in the game. I've also seen a team just kneel in the "Victory Formation" when they are in scoring range to run out the clock. I consider that good sportsmanship. On the collegiate level I believe point differential is still factored in to ranking. As long as it is every team should try to score as much as possible regardless of the situation. From High School on down I've mostly seen teams send in the back ups when the game is decided before it is over.


I guess "running up the score" is all about playcalling in my view. You can't expect players to pull back or lay off. It's not safe. So I would consider it to be when a coach is gameplanning to get into the endzone as the highest priority even though the game has been decided.

Good post ! I totally agree with it. I remember back in the great days with TD & # 7, when we'd be ahead by 13 or 17 or whatever and we'd have the ball on the other teams 20 yard line or closer at the end of the game. I was hoping to see TD break it for another score, but Shanahan elected for Elway to kneel down to run the clock out instead. That to me showed sportsmanship & class on Shanny's part and he's done that alot over the years.

Crushaholic
10-06-2006, 12:48 AM
Some would say that KC was running up the score against SF last week, but that wasn't the case. SF just wasn't equipped to stop the Chiefs from doing anything...

watermock
10-06-2006, 01:50 AM
That's fine. San Fransico is a complete joke.


"Bangs a dirty bag of kitty litter over his head"

Northman
10-06-2006, 02:49 AM
In College margin of victory actually matters.

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So, in your opinion the respect thing goes out the window because margin of victory means something? Thats hypocritical if you ask me, if its really a respect thing than you should still be offended by the high scores that college teams inflict on other schools regardless. If i recall, the BCS doesnt grade on how big you win anymore. Just on what teams you play and win against during the season. But there are other things to consider. The Comeback. Look what happened to Michigan St. this year against Notre Dame. Look what happened to Houston against Buffalo in the playoffs in the early 90's. The other thing is what about the players involved? When i was playing football in high school there was a particular game in which i was having the game of my life.

I played both sides of the field on that team and that day i threw for 269 yds, 4 tds passes, rushed for 1 Td, and had 2 Ints with one returned for a Td. We wound up winning 63-0 in that game. I was having such a great time that day because of how well i was playing. Even when the game was over the other team didnt complain about the how high the score was, they were just disappointed by the loss. Ironically, we played the same team in the championship game later that season and only squeeked out a 13-7 OT win.

The thing is, is it the fans who complain about running up the score or does the coaches and players complain? I would bet that its just the fans who get offended. Im sure from time to time a team or coach would be upset but you dont hear about that much. Just last week a college team trounced another 73-3 and you never heard anything from the losing squad. Its football man, i seriously doubt teams get that finicky about what the score is. When you play, your just out there to play and do your best no matter what side your on.

ZachKC
10-06-2006, 06:48 AM
I tend to agree with you, although what I've seen in the NFL is a team run the clock out when they have a big lead late in the game. I've also seen a team just kneel in the "Victory Formation" when they are in scoring range to run out the clock. I consider that good sportsmanship. On the collegiate level I believe point differential is still factored in to ranking. As long as it is every team should try to score as much as possible regardless of the situation. From High School on down I've mostly seen teams send in the back ups when the game is decided before it is over.


I guess "running up the score" is all about playcalling in my view. You can't expect players to pull back or lay off. It's not safe. So I would consider it to be when a coach is gameplanning to get into the endzone as the highest priority even though the game has been decided.

Well put.

Sideburn
10-06-2006, 08:57 AM
No such thing. Its not up to the offense to scale back. Its up to the opposing defense to stop them.

Quoted for truth. In the words of Billy Tubbs, get better.

MrPeepers
10-06-2006, 10:31 AM
+28, bomb's little run game.

2KBack
10-06-2006, 11:21 AM
So, in your opinion the respect thing goes out the window because margin of victory means something? Thats hypocritical if you ask me, if its really a respect thing than you should still be offended by the high scores that college teams inflict on other schools regardless. If i recall, the BCS doesnt grade on how big you win anymore. Just on what teams you play and win against during the season. But there are other things to consider. The Comeback. Look what happened to Michigan St. this year against Notre Dame. Look what happened to Houston against Buffalo in the playoffs in the early 90's. The other thing is what about the players involved? When i was playing football in high school there was a particular game in which i was having the game of my life.

I played both sides of the field on that team and that day i threw for 269 yds, 4 tds passes, rushed for 1 Td, and had 2 Ints with one returned for a Td. We wound up winning 63-0 in that game. I was having such a great time that day because of how well i was playing. Even when the game was over the other team didnt complain about the how high the score was, they were just disappointed by the loss. Ironically, we played the same team in the championship game later that season and only squeeked out a 13-7 OT win.

The thing is, is it the fans who complain about running up the score or does the coaches and players complain? I would bet that its just the fans who get offended. Im sure from time to time a team or coach would be upset but you dont hear about that much. Just last week a college team trounced another 73-3 and you never heard anything from the losing squad. Its football man, i seriously doubt teams get that finicky about what the score is. When you play, your just out there to play and do your best no matter what side your on.


If margin of victory is no longer a factor in College rankings than I my philosophy covers NCAA ball too. I'm sorry you disagree, but I do lose respect for a team going full throttle when up by 20,30, even 40 points. It's not a cut and dry situation for example, it a team is up 30-10, but the losing offense is still moving the ball well, then there is a chance that team may start scoring, so you play normally to avoid the comeback. Yet it's weak as hell if you are up 30-10 and going into the no huddle late in the game to make sure you get a couple more scores in.

This is obviously a personal philosophy thing, and neither of us is going to convince the other.

BroncoInferno
10-06-2006, 11:24 AM
When I played sports in high school we occasionally ran into a far superior team, and I always felt condescended and sort of pathetic if the opposition let up so as not to "run up the score." I'd rather they score additional points than pat me on the head with their backups running up the middle. Any kid who gets scarred because they lost a game 100-0 probably wasn't going to do well in life anyway.

2KBack
10-06-2006, 11:32 AM
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Bob's your Information Minister
10-06-2006, 12:00 PM
Sweep the leg.

dbroncos31
10-06-2006, 12:58 PM
I'd agree with JBucc to some extent. I think that if you have a sizeable lead, which is hard to pin exactly but lets say above 21 points, then it would be running up the score to leave in your star players in the 4th quarter. I say give the key guys on defense and offense a rest and let some backups in.
the problem with this appraoch is that the Colts came back from 21 down with like 4 min left against TB a couple of years ago. If they can do it against the Bucs' starting D, then putting in your backups is death.

I would say that as long as teams don't try to pass (except when necessary, like 3rd and 5 when a first down ends it) but simply run the ball, it's all good in the hood.

BroncsRule
10-06-2006, 01:08 PM
Running up the score: A clinic

Way back during the great Michigan - Ohio State rivalry, probably 1968 or '69, OSU was WAY up on Michigan late..

The game was being played in Michigan. OSU drove down and scored one last touchdown with time about to expire. Woody Hayes calls for a 2 point conversion, which is successful. Makes the final score something like 50-10.

There is a near riot as outraged fans rush the field trying to get at the OSU coach..

The team and staff quickly leave the facility under heavy police escort.

In Woody's post game interview, of course the 2 pt conversion at the end came up.

Reporter: "Coach, why did you go for 2 at the end?"

Woody: "Because the rules prohibit kicking a field goal in that situation."

broncocalijohn
10-06-2006, 01:14 PM
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broncocalijohn
10-06-2006, 01:17 PM
If you want to see the Broncos "running up the score", then watch on the 15th of October. It wont be Shanny's purpose, but the fact that Cutler and Cobbs will still embarrass the Chokeland Faiders late in the 4th quarter in their time of misery. I am seeing a 23 point victory. The offense will be explosive finally.