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BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 05:45 AM
WOW!

Pretty cool, TJ ... not that I have anything against John Denver, but this is a front page we can USE. New at 2:00 am Pacific time?

Nice job! :thumbsup:

Taco John
10-04-2006, 05:53 AM
Thanks... I still have much work to do on it...

For any photoshoppers out there... Check out the photoshop forum for details on the site redesign contest I'm putting on. It's a chance to win a new Broncos jersey, and some other gear.

watermock
10-04-2006, 06:09 AM
It took awhile because his Sumo Baby Zee might of had his attention. I'm just guessing tho. Ha!

I would literally kick the wife out of bed at 2 A.M. but Andrew was generally a quiet baby. I had to work, and hell...he didn't want man boobs. Clean butt and a liquid late night snack.

Front page looks great Taco.

Orange_Beard
10-04-2006, 08:01 AM
Looks good. You must not be getting any sleep.

ksBRONCOfan
10-04-2006, 08:28 AM
Sweet!

Bronco_Beerslug
10-04-2006, 09:04 AM
Not all of the page displays correctly in Firefox.

And using HTML validation there are quite a few errors (http://tinyurl.com/r3va8) that show up so I wonder if fixing one of them would correct the display problems?


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8743/omsp6.png


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BroncoFiend
10-04-2006, 09:26 AM
Thanks... I still have much work to do on it...

For any photoshoppers out there... Check out the photoshop forum for details on the site redesign contest I'm putting on. It's a chance to win a new Broncos jersey, and some other gear.

It's nice to see a cool home page - nice job TJ. I may have to enter that contest, after all it is my logo so I may have a shot!:)

Requiem
10-04-2006, 09:35 AM
Second to what Beerslug said, and I'm not a big fan of the orange chain thing behind the logo. . . I used to do web design and ran a company for a while with my hetero life partner Motz, so I could give it a shot.

brncs_fan
10-04-2006, 09:53 AM
Looks good to me. A little more friendly to those who are coming here for the first time and familiar sight for the rest of us.

ludo21
10-04-2006, 09:55 AM
Great job.

Nice links, nice cover stories.

Killericon
10-04-2006, 09:56 AM
Very awesome, man.

Good job...But this headline is...uh...Questionable?

Broncos Run Sprints At End Of Practice

I thought they usually did that...and even if they don't, is it that big a deal?

In any case, it looks way better than any other frontpage I've seen for a BB. Nice going.

Taco John
10-04-2006, 11:20 AM
Very awesome, man.

Good job...But this headline is...uh...Questionable?



I thought they usually did that...and even if they don't, is it that big a deal?

Ina nay case, it looks way better than an other frontpage I've seen for a BB. Nice going.



Yeah, I agree... I just thought the quote from Shanahan was funny. :)

smalltowngrll
10-04-2006, 11:25 AM
I had to do a double take this morning when I logged on. I thought I'd typed something in wrong!

Love it! It displays just fine for me...but, then, I'm pretty simple when it comes to the web! :thumbsup: Great job TJ!

fido
10-04-2006, 11:27 AM
quality, nicely done

BMF Bronco
10-04-2006, 12:40 PM
NIce work

Rock Chalk
10-04-2006, 01:35 PM
Not all of the page displays correctly in Firefox.

And using HTML validation there are quite a few errors (http://tinyurl.com/r3va8) that show up so I wonder if fixing one of them would correct the display problems?


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8743/omsp6.png


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The problem lies in how Firefox handles HTML coding standards....substandardly.

Requiem
10-04-2006, 01:39 PM
The problem lies in how Firefox handles HTML coding standards....substandardly.

Actually no, Firefox holds the web designers and those doing the code at hand for the mistakes they make. Their standards for HTML are a lot higher than that of IE. Internet Explorer usually interprets the mistakes made and does it's best to correct them. There's a reason why there are XHTML and HTML tools out there that are to help those who aren't good at code. It's not Firefox's fault at all, it's the coding done by the individual.

By no means is your aforementioned statement near the truth. You won't find many designers being exlusive to IE anymore, if at all -- most designers and coders prefer using Mozilla, especially when testing their sites because it actually shows the flaws that can be corrected.

Rock Chalk
10-04-2006, 01:55 PM
Actually no, Firefox holds the web designers and those doing the code at hand for the mistakes they make. Their standards for HTML are a lot higher than that of IE. Internet Explorer usually interprets the mistakes made and does it's best to correct them. There's a reason why there are XHTML and HTML tools out there that are to help those who aren't good at code. It's not Firefox's fault at all, it's the coding done by the individual.

By no means is your aforementioned statement near the truth. You won't find many designers being exlusive to IE anymore, if at all -- most designers and coders prefer using Mozilla, especially when testing their sites because it actually shows the flaws that can be corrected.

Wrongo buddy. One hundred and fifteen different websites, none with errors, all coded to exacting HTML standards and none show up properly with Firefox without special condition coding. It does not handle DIV tags well nor does it implement Java well at all. Further, CSS seems to give it problems as well.

I design for a living and do design for both and I can tell you from first hand EVERY DAY experience that Mozilla Firefox, while secure, does not handle coding well for whatever reasons. I have to add in features that are supported for Firefox so that things display properly but regular coding displays fine in IE. So if I have to code EXTRA to get things to display in Firefox the correct way (as intended) then it is the one that does not do implementation well. It is also far less forgiving than IE.

Mozilla needs to adapt, particularly their java implementation is horrendous.

edit: It does handle standardized HTML OK and parses server side scripts well enough.

Requiem
10-04-2006, 02:02 PM
I was under the impression from a lot of my friends who do web design, (one who is working on the site for Siemens and Travelocity) that it was usually the users making the errors, which is why they don't show up correctly. Maybe he and I are wrong, but I just go through all of my code a couple of times and run it through checkers so it works well on both platforms. So are you planning on doing the design (a design) for the Mane?

I also had thos eimpressions when I was designing when I was younger for Macora Studios.

Bronco_Beerslug
10-04-2006, 02:40 PM
The problem lies in how Firefox handles HTML coding standards....substandardly.
Firefox handles correctly coded sites just fine. IE allows for sloppy coding and java and that's why it's the most vulnerable browser out there.

Firefox and Mozilla and Opera have opted to obey the W3C standards so page rendering differences between all these browsers and IE are to be expected. I run a few web sites and stumbled across some of my own HTML coding sloppiness that IE let slip by but Firefox did not.
http://tinyurl.com/5smv8

Most pages on the web aren't coded correctly though so it's not too big of a deal...

-----------------------------------------------------------
HTML Validation Results
Document Checked

* URL: http://www.orangemane.com/
* Character encoding: ISO-8859-1
* Level of HTML: HTML 4.01 Transitional

Errors and Warnings (http://tinyurl.com/r3va8)

---------------------------------------------------------

W3C CSS Validator Results for http://www.orangemane.com/
Congratulations!

Valid CSS! This document validates as CSS!

To work as intended, your CSS style sheet needs a correct document parse tree. This means you should use valid HTML.
Warnings (http://tinyurl.com/lla83)
URI : http://www.orangemane.com/omane-styles.css

dbfan4life
10-04-2006, 04:08 PM
Liking the front page, TJ! Well done!

heydensmom
10-04-2006, 05:05 PM
Looks good LOL maybe I should go to the front page more often LOL

Smiling Assassin27
10-04-2006, 06:29 PM
i read the game preview and have one word: paragraphs.

Taco John
10-04-2006, 06:31 PM
doh! That's my bad... I was monkeying with some settings to fix a problem... Working on the fix now...

orinjkrush
10-04-2006, 08:36 PM
awesome TJ. it's amazing what a vibrant community you and the mods and everyone have created here. simply amazing.

Rock Chalk
10-04-2006, 10:06 PM
I posted this in the photoshop forum but figured Id get better feedback here. Still got some tweaking to do, but this is where I am at right now.
http://www.texasreal-estateleads.com/images/omfrontpage.jpg

ludo21
10-04-2006, 11:58 PM
that is sweet Alec, good job

Taco John
10-05-2006, 12:22 AM
A very worthy submission! Nice job man.

Requiem
10-05-2006, 12:26 AM
The buttons and embossment are tacky by today's standards. It could be more simple and professional.

Lev Vyvanse
10-05-2006, 01:02 AM
The buttons and embossment are tacky by today's standards. It could be more simple and professional.

I'm waiting to see yours.

Requiem
10-05-2006, 01:16 AM
I'm doing a complete and total re-vamp of the design since I wasn't very fond with the template to begin with (no offense to TJ) and going with scales that are being touted by a lot of designers out there today. Sleek, unique and simple. Something easy on the eyes and something that wouldn't make an epileptic have a seizure.

I feel pretty good about what I'm doing, but we'll see how it turns out. Usually, if I'm doing a design and work on it too long -- I totally erase it.

Taco John
10-05-2006, 04:29 AM
No offense taken... I'm excited to see what everyone comes up with. :)

Orange_Beard
10-05-2006, 07:45 AM
alec, I think that Tatum Bell picture is very cool, however it just kind of hangs out on the side. It looks like you came up with a cool graphic that just tryed to add it some where.

my 2 cents.

Rock Chalk
10-05-2006, 07:59 AM
alec, I think that Tatum Bell picture is very cool, however it just kind of hangs out on the side. It looks like you came up with a cool graphic that just tryed to add it some where.

my 2 cents.

Underneath I was going to have player stats, kinda like denverbroncos.com does. I have several images for TJ for that purpose on a rotating script if he chose it.

Bronco News is a drop down menu, the forum links have rollovers. The right side needs tweaking mostly because TJ has ads and I wasnt sure what he wanted there.

Requiem, nice constructive criticism, in a half assed non helpful sort of way.

Requiem
10-05-2006, 09:53 AM
You Stoles All Mah Ideass>a>s>as>>:(

Orange_Beard
10-05-2006, 11:56 AM
Underneath I was going to have player stats, kinda like denverbroncos.com does. I have several images for TJ for that purpose on a rotating script if he chose it.

Bronco News is a drop down menu, the forum links have rollovers. The right side needs tweaking mostly because TJ has ads and I wasnt sure what he wanted there.

Requiem, nice constructive criticism, in a half assed non helpful sort of way.

ahh, that makes sense. Content would fill that section out.

JBucc
10-05-2006, 06:03 PM
Did it take anyone else like 4 minutes to find the discussion button?

Rock Chalk
10-05-2006, 06:21 PM
Did it take anyone else like 4 minutes to find the discussion button?

No, but thats mainly because Im old skool and knew where the main discussion forums were at and what it would be called. That's an excellent point however, and something TJ will probably need to address, the user friendliness of the main page for new users.

Taco John
10-05-2006, 06:35 PM
good feedback...

Bronco_Beerslug
10-05-2006, 08:47 PM
Most monitors display at least 1280x1024 these days and this is how the page looks at this resolution (not covering the whole page)

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Firefox (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1950/omkr0.png)

IE (http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4483/om2jl8.png)

Opera (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9396/om1if1.png)

Taco John
10-05-2006, 10:07 PM
Most monitors display at least 1280x1024 these days


Acutally, that's incorrect. Only about 15% of users right now display at that resolution. The majority are displaying at 1024 x 768.

Bronco_Beerslug
10-06-2006, 05:47 AM
Acutally, that's incorrect. Only about 15% of users right now display at that resolution. The majority are displaying at 1024 x 768.
What I'm meant is monitors sold these days (http://tinyurl.com/clre7) just about all display at the higher resolutions. CRTs are dying a slow death in lieu of flat screens. Wide screens (1680x1050) are becoming more common too.

Taco John
10-06-2006, 10:49 AM
What I'm meant is monitors sold these days (http://tinyurl.com/clre7) just about all display at the higher resolutions. CRTs are dying a slow death in lieu of flat screens. Wide screens (1680x1050) are becoming more common too.



Yes, but not enough people are buying them yet to justify designing at that screen resolution. For the last five years, one of my clients has been an LCD manufacturer, so I've got a lot of research in the field. While it's true that things are trending in that direction, they've still got a long way to go before web designers can justify designing in that resolution. There are almost as many people still using 800 x 600 as there are using 1280 x 1024 or higher.

I suspect that 1024 x 768 will be the web design standard of the foreseeable future.

Rock Chalk
10-06-2006, 12:47 PM
I suspect that 1024 x 768 will be the web design standard of the foreseeable future.

You are probably right as it is the PREFERRED resolution regardless of how high the monitor is capable of displaying.

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-06-2006, 01:47 PM
How about putting a link to the home page on the forum link drop down?

Tredici
10-06-2006, 02:12 PM
Anxious to see what all our photo shopper's come up with. I really like the current logo but under the Main Discussion Header the logo is shrunk down so small you no longer really see the horse. Every time I open up the front page I think, why is the Calgary Flames' logo in front of all the message boards?

:clown:

Bronco_Beerslug
10-06-2006, 02:57 PM
Yes, but not enough people are buying them yet to justify designing at that screen resolution. For the last five years, one of my clients has been an LCD manufacturer, so I've got a lot of research in the field. While it's true that things are trending in that direction, they've still got a long way to go before web designers can justify designing in that resolution. There are almost as many people still using 800 x 600 as there are using 1280 x 1024 or higher.

I suspect that 1024 x 768 will be the web design standard of the foreseeable future.
Isn't it possible to design pages that fit almost all resolutions? I'm not a designer so I don't know how that works but I read something about that before I believe.

Just doing a quick check I see Extremeskins and FinHeaven doesn't but ChiefsPlanet does.

Anxious to see what all our photo shopper's come up with. I really like the current logo but under the Main Discussion Header the logo is shrunk down so small you no longer really see the horse. Every time I open up the front page I think, why is the Calgary Flames' logo in front of all the message boards?

:clown:

This little guy you mean?

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4425/logola5.png

Requiem
10-06-2006, 03:40 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f150/hartcavalcade/header2.jpg

A little something I came up with quick, not big and bulky like the current template is, would be centered in all browers and work with all resolutions, also have ideas for re-doing for forum and having one of my own "skins" for that, so the current forums look like they're a part of the main page. Nothing is finalize, but that's a temportary and contemporary solution to the logo/header here on the site. Anyone looking from ideas should hit up CSS Beauty, etc. sites like that. Good inspiration.

Might have some ideas in store for the back of it, perhaps some players faded in the back. . . we'll see. Still in it's infancy, but I like simplicity and clear cut text over images that are bulky. Considering that the OM is posting a lot of articles and information, I figured it'd be a design would be apt to fit around that scheme rather than against it. I think the current design now goes against that idea, but we'll see how things turn out. Maybe some of the others who are designing could show a little of what they're doing.

There has to be more submissions. ;)

Archie
10-06-2006, 11:18 PM
Yeah - nice job TJ.... I've been super busy lately so missing my daily fix many times. I was like blown away when I logged in today. This will be good. (Although I was freaked until I found the fourms).

BroncsRule
10-07-2006, 04:36 PM
There's some really good content on the front page!

Major props to all involved!

The "skin" is secondary to me - I care about content. The look & feel can be all slick and modern, but if there's no meat on them bones - fughetaboutit!

The quality of the submissions is really brilliant!

Congrats TJ.

rovolution
10-12-2006, 12:05 PM
you guys should post a link to CBS4denver.com 's denver bronco section. it had some good videos. just a suggestion

Taco John
10-12-2006, 12:07 PM
Thanks for the link... If anyone else has any, post away.

BroncoBuff
10-17-2006, 12:22 AM
TJ .... the kid looks much different all of a sudden. And what's with the collar?

Taco John
10-17-2006, 12:47 AM
TJ .... the kid looks much different all of a sudden. And what's with the collar?


I'm such a Shanahan fan, that I decided to emulate coach and put the little guy on a leash! :D

Taco John
10-20-2006, 12:18 PM
Some good articles going up... :)

DomCasual
10-21-2006, 03:32 PM
Hey TJ - is there any way we could start an NFL Messageboard list with a link from the front page again? The one we had before it was hacked was great, with multiple boards for a lot of teams. I have this one (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=44566), which wouldn't be bad for a starting point - but a lot of the links are broken. Maybe we could have people start submitting them when they find something that isn't already on the list?