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ZONA
10-03-2006, 09:06 PM
I followed the team alot when I used to live in COSPRINGS but sort of lost touch over the years. I've watched some of their games the past few years and it always seems like they get crushed. They used to be a college power house and now they are probably not one of the top 30 teams. What's going on up there? Were all the sex scandels that damaging?

Kaylore
10-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Barnett was a good coach but poor at recruiting. Hawk is installing a system that isn't really built around Barnett's system. They are in transition and will be down until players and Hawk meet.

There are many good posts on this subject already in the College football forum, which is where this thread belongs.

RhymesayersDU
10-03-2006, 09:10 PM
As long as we get their kicker, they can suck as much as they want.

Rocket 7
10-03-2006, 09:46 PM
As long as we get their kicker, they can suck as much as they want.

Katie Hnida did go to UNM....wait you meant the Broncos sorry

RhymesayersDU
10-03-2006, 10:18 PM
LOL

Lobos suck so freakin' bad. They should play the Buffs in the Toilet Bowl at the end of the season.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-03-2006, 10:42 PM
Barnett was a good coach but poor at recruiting. Hawk is installing a system that isn't really built around Barnett's system. They are in transition and will be down until players and Hawk meet.


Barnett was also way too loyal to inept assistants. It took him forever to finally fire Okruch and Watson left when Barnett did.

BroncoMatt
10-03-2006, 10:50 PM
I miss the good old days

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BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 06:48 AM
Because they're trying to be just like you, ZONA.

Florida_Bronco
10-04-2006, 07:09 AM
They used to be a college power house

:kiddingme

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 08:19 AM
They used to be a college power house:kiddingme

I hope you're not even dreaming of being serious about this little emoticon, loke....

Time to school you ... Knowitall ...

We went into New Year's 2002 BCS day with a realistic chance at the National Championship just 4 1/2 years ago .... not to mention FIVE Top-10 finishes under McCartney (including an 11-0 #1 ranked Orange Bowl in 1989/90), one Top Ten finish under Neuheisel (the fake punt vs. Oregon in the Cotton), one under Barnett 4 1/2 years ago - PLUS we won the National Championship in 1990/91. Hell- OOOO?!?!

Before that, we finished #3 in the nation in 1971/72 ... went to two Orange Bowls in the 60s and 70s ... a Sugar Bowl (1957), and I think Cotton Bowl too in the 50s and 60s - back when Bowl Games were much tougher to come by.

We have a Heisman Trophy winner (Rashaan Salaam) ... a runnerup (Byron White) and a #6 Heisman finish just 4 years ago (Chris Brown.)

Any list of TOP 20 college football programs in the last 10, 25, or even 50 years must include the Colorado Buffaloes.






You can stop scratching your head like a dim bulb now, Florida - because now you know better. Knowitall

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 08:22 AM
Learn, dammit .... LEARN!

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 08:24 AM
Q: How many college programs have had an All-American player who went on to win a Masters and a U.S. Open in golf?









A: One - us. Hale Irwin, knothead.

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 08:33 AM
Q: How many college programs have had an All-American player who went on to become a United States Supreme Court Justice?









A: One - us. Byron White, knothead.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 12:38 PM
I hope you're not even dreaming of being serious about this little emoticon, loke....

Time to school you ... Knowitall ...

We went into New Year's 2002 BCS day with a realistic chance at the National Championship just 4 1/2 years ago .... not to mention FIVE Top-10 finishes under McCartney (including an 11-0 #1 ranked Orange Bowl in 1989/90), one Top Ten finish under Neuheisel (the fake punt vs. Oregon in the Cotton), one under Barnett 4 1/2 years ago - PLUS we won the National Championship in 1990/91. Hell- OOOO?!?!

Before that, we finished #3 in the nation in 1971/72 ... went to two Orange Bowls in the 60s and 70s ... a Sugar Bowl (1957), and I think Cotton Bowl too in the 50s and 60s - back when Bowl Games were much tougher to come by.

We have a Heisman Trophy winner (Rashaan Salaam) ... a runnerup (Byron White) and a #6 Heisman finish just 4 years ago (Chris Brown.)

Any list of TOP 20 college football programs in the last 10, 25, or even 50 years must include the Colorado Buffaloes.






You can stop scratching your head like a dim bulb now, Florida - because now you know better. Knowitall

It took CU a extra down to help them win that NC. CU has been a pretty damn good team over the years but for those reason's you listed alone don't make them a national power. NU, OSU, OU, UT, UM, FSU, PSU, Mich, and USC have done much, much more then CU.

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 12:57 PM
It took CU a extra down to help them win that NC.

And how exactly is that CU's fault? There were plenty of things f'd up in Columbia that day, the "5th down" referee error seems to get the bulk of the attention. No one mentions that ****ty field that was like a skating rink. NU even filled a formal complaint about the condition of Farout Field that year.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 02:25 PM
And how exactly is that CU's fault? There were plenty of things f'd up in Columbia that day, the "5th down" referee error seems to get the bulk of the attention. No one mentions that ****ty field that was like a skating rink. NU even filled a formal complaint about the condition of Farout Field that year.

Did I say that was CU's fault? I just said if that play was called right CU doesn't go on to win the NC that year. Simple as that. I also never ever believe CU was a bad program but it isn't a national power and I think you would agree with that. More often then not its a top 25 school and thats something to be proud of.

Florida_Bronco
10-04-2006, 02:36 PM
CU has been a pretty damn good team over the years but for those reason's you listed alone don't make them a national power. NU, OSU, OU, UT, UM, FSU, PSU, Mich, and USC have done much, much more then CU.

Couldn't have said it better myself. CU has been a good team over the years, but they're no powerhouse. Sorry Buff, but you're homering out a bit bro.

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 02:50 PM
Did I say that was CU's fault? I just said if that play was called right CU doesn't go on to win the NC that year. Simple as that. I also never ever believe CU was a bad program but it isn't a national power and I think you would agree with that. More often then not its a top 25 school and thats something to be proud of.

So CU would have spiked the ball on 4th down if the refs had not screwed up? Come on man, you sound like a Mizzery fan.

Also, for what it's worth CU is #15 in All time wins in CFB history. I think that's something to hang the hat on if you are going to talk about staying power. Now I'll agree that CU is not a Michigan, Alabama, Notre Dame or NU in terms of National powerhouses, but to dismiss them and not acknowledge that CU has been a top CFB program over the years is naive.

Florida_Bronco
10-04-2006, 03:10 PM
Also, for what it's worth CU is #15 in All time wins in CFB history. I think that's something to hang the hat on if you are going to talk about staying power. Now I'll agree that CU is not a Michigan, Alabama, Notre Dame or NU in terms of National powerhouses, but to dismiss them and not acknowledge that CU has been a top CFB program over the years is naive.

That's exactly what I'm saying. They've been a consistently good team for a long time, but they're not what you'd call a powerhouse.

shakenbake
10-04-2006, 03:14 PM
They are easily in the top 20 to 25 discussion. Go through and look at the teams conference by conference and find 25 teams you would put ahead of CU.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 03:22 PM
So CU would have spiked the ball on 4th down if the refs had not screwed up? Come on man, you sound like a Mizzery fan.

Also, for what it's worth CU is #15 in All time wins in CFB history. I think that's something to hang the hat on if you are going to talk about staying power. Now I'll agree that CU is not a Michigan, Alabama, Notre Dame or NU in terms of National powerhouses, but to dismiss them and not acknowledge that CU has been a top CFB program over the years is naive.

I think you are so missing what Im trying to say. I never claimed CU wasn't a good program. I've seen some good teams over the years. As for the Mizzu game things would have been alot different had they got the down right. Does that mean CU couldn't have scored instead of spiking the ball? Only god knows that. As for CU's year this year, I like other NU fans are taking it with a grain of salt. New coach equals new system. Hawk doesn't have his players for his system yet, ala what was going on with Cally (even though CU fans jumped our asses for sucking). Now this should be a good NU team. I expect no more then 2 loses for us this year, otherwise its a wasted year. Next year should be a BCS game for us, even more so with a true top flight QB in Keller. He alone should help NU start the year in the top 10. Thats my opinion, take it for what it is.

shakenbake
10-04-2006, 03:35 PM
Next year should be a BCS game for us, even more so with a true top flight QB in Keller. He alone should help NU start the year in the top 10. Thats my opinion, take it for what it is.

do you think NU will be able to get past TX or OU for that BCS game. I don't see either of those programs dropping off over the next few years. The recruiting class Texas has lined up right now is ridiculously talented.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 03:41 PM
do you think NU will be able to get past TX or OU for that BCS game. I don't see either of those programs dropping off over the next few years. The recruiting class Texas has lined up right now is ridiculously talented.

It depends. If NU wins the North like I feel they should every year they should get to play both UT and OU that year or atleast get a shot at UT twice next year. Its not like the talent we bring in sucks, they just aren't all 5 stars like UT and OU. Players have to make plays though just because you bring in 20 5 star players doesn't mean you are a lock to be the best team in the world. It all depends on Keller next year though. We have the talent on O for him to shine next year.

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 03:48 PM
I think you are so missing what Im trying to say. I never claimed CU wasn't a good program. I've seen some good teams over the years. As for the Mizzu game things would have been alot different had they got the down right. Does that mean CU couldn't have scored instead of spiking the ball? Only god knows that. As for CU's year this year, I like other NU fans are taking it with a grain of salt. New coach equals new system. Hawk doesn't have his players for his system yet, ala what was going on with Cally (even though CU fans jumped our asses for sucking). Now this should be a good NU team. I expect no more then 2 loses for us this year, otherwise its a wasted year. Next year should be a BCS game for us, even more so with a true top flight QB in Keller. He alone should help NU start the year in the top 10. Thats my opinion, take it for what it is.

I don't think I ever accused you of saying that CU was not a good program. There's a top tier of about ten or so teams, then the next tier of ten
or so teams in terms of all time prowess. CU falls into that second tier.

Side note/observation on Keller. I really think that ASU made a colossal mistake letting him go/forcing him out. Carpenter has looked terrible this year. I really think that Mark Helfrich (CU's OC and QB coach and former ASU QB coach) is missed in Tempe. While Carpenter has regressed, Bernard Jackson has developed right in front of our eyes in the last 4 games. It's been pretty remarkable. Back on point, I wonder how much Helfrich helped Keller and if Keller will regress or continue to progress at NU. I guess we'll find out next season.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 03:53 PM
Snake and Pain what odds do you give NU vs UT this year? That game will be Texas first road game of the year. I hope that I can score tickets to that one as well!!!

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 03:57 PM
Snake and Pain what odds do you give NU vs UT this year? That game will be Texas first road game of the year. I hope that I can score tickets to that one as well!!!

I think NU will keep the game close for three quarters but UT will pull away in the fourth. If Cally gameplans like he did against U$C or play like they did against KU, then the huskers are in for a long, long day.

They have a shot. When does NU play Mizzou? That's going to be a good game.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 04:03 PM
I think NU will keep the game close for three quarters but UT will pull away in the fourth. If Cally gameplans like he did against U$C or play like they did against KU, then the huskers are in for a long, long day.

They have a shot. When does NU play Mizzou? That's going to be a good game.

They play Mizzu 11/04.

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 04:07 PM
They play Mizzu 11/04.

IMO, that's the game that will determine the B12 north winner (Not really going out on limb there, I know)

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 05:21 PM
It took CU a extra down to help them win that NC. CU has been a pretty damn good team over the years but for those reason's you listed alone don't make them a national power. NU, OSU, OU, UT, UM, FSU, PSU, Mich, and USC have done much, much more then CU.

5th Down is silly, dude. CHarles Johnson spiked the ball only after looking at the down marker and seeing a "3" .... that's not his fault. Brush up on your history ...

And, as far as those other teams?

You are in freaking LA-LA LAND if you think Texas is clearly ahead of us in the last 25 years. In fact, take away the last 6 months, and we are CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY ahead of Texas over the last 25 years, and 10 years too for that matter. LOOK IT UP, MAN! Before 9 months ago, we were like 6-1 against Texas since 1989. And we have much higher finishes, and a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP...

I'll grant you some of the rest of the teams ... again, depending upon time period. If you go 20 years back from now - WE ARE TOP 10 EASILY ... but going back 25 pulls up the early 80s which sinks us back a bit.

Take away the last 3 years, and USC is well below us over that same period.It all depends on the time period you choose.If you choose 20 years, we're ahead of Ohio State and maybe even Michigan ... and BTW ... you only listed NINE teams! You made my point for me. READ MY POST! McCartney had FIVE Top-10 finishes, Neuheisel and Barnett ONE each. That's 7 in the last 20 years...

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 05:25 PM
Over the last 10 years - CU is a Top 20 program.

Over the last 20 years, CU is a Top 10 program

Over the last 25 years, CU is a Top 20 program

Over the last 50 years, CU is a Top 25 program, I'll wager...

The competition over 25 and 50 years are team like UCLA, Iowa, Florida, Texas A&M, Washington ... we stack up pretty well against these teams, I say we beat them all in the 25 year span.

Go ahead, rebut this with that old "5th Down" angle :~ohyah!:
Colorado was in a way, a VICTIM of the 5th down controversy. If Johnson had seen "4" on the down marker, he woullda called for a keeper, and run behind Joe Garten, Jay Leeuwenberg and Heath Irwin. I wouldda kinda liked his chances there....

Hercules Rockefeller
10-04-2006, 05:39 PM
do you think NU will be able to get past TX or OU for that BCS game. I don't see either of those programs dropping off over the next few years. The recruiting class Texas has lined up right now is ridiculously talented.

What's ridiculous is that it's early October and they're class is already full.

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 05:44 PM
"Learn, dammit ... LEARN!" - Dabney Coleman in "War Games" ... and perfectluy appropriate for the following lesson:

COLORADO went into New Year's 2002 BCS day with a realistic chance at the National Championship just 4 1/2 years ago .... plus FIVE Top-10 finishes under McCartney (including an 11-0 #1 ranked Orange Bowl game in 1989/90), ONE Top Ten finish under Neuheisel (the fake punt vs. Oregon in the Cotton) .... OR was it TWO Top 10s under Neuheisel? He finished with identical 10-2 records in each of his first 3 years.

ONE Top 10 under Barnett 4 1/2 years ago - when we played Oregon in the Fiesta, and NU played Miami in the Rose. HAd Nebraska and us won - not a big stretch really - we would have been AP NATIONAL CHAMPIONS .... 4 years ago. Plus, Barnett had 4 North Titles in 5 years. I KNOW - DON'T SAY IT!

PLUS we won the National Championship in 1990/91.

Before that, we finished #3 in the nation in 1971/72 ... went to two Orange Bowls in the 60s and 70s ... a Sugar Bowl (1957), and I think Cotton Bowl too in the 50s and 60s - back when Bowl Games were much tougher to come by.

We have a Heisman Trophy winner (Rashaan Salaam) ... a runnerup (Byron White) and a #6 Heisman finish just 4 years ago (Chris Brown.)

Any list of TOP 20 college football programs in the last 10, 25, or even 50 years must include the Colorado Buffaloes.

BroncoBuff
10-04-2006, 05:45 PM
I guess I'm easily riled up in this area lately ... Uhh

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 06:33 PM
5th Down is silly, dude. CHarles Johnson spiked the ball only after looking at the down marker and seeing a "3" .... that's not his fault. Brush up on your history ...

And, as far as those other teams?

You are in freaking LA-LA LAND if you think Texas is clearly ahead of us in the last 25 years. In fact, take away the last 6 months, and we are CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY ahead of Texas over the last 25 years, and 10 years too for that matter. LOOK IT UP, MAN! Before 9 months ago, we were like 6-1 against Texas since 1989. And we have much higher finishes, and a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP...

I'll grant you some of the rest of the teams ... again, depending upon time period. If you go 20 years back from now - WE ARE TOP 10 EASILY ... but going back 25 pulls up the early 80s which sinks us back a bit.

Take away the last 3 years, and USC is well below us over that same period.It all depends on the time period you choose.If you choose 20 years, we're ahead of Ohio State and maybe even Michigan ... and BTW ... you only listed NINE teams! You made my point for me. READ MY POST! McCartney had FIVE Top-10 finishes, Neuheisel and Barnett ONE each. That's 7 in the last 20 years...

I think youre in LA LA Land right now. I left off teams like ND, Tenn, and UF as well.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 06:40 PM
You can't just look at a period in time and say hey look we were better then this team during that time so we are the better team. A teams history is just that its HISTORY. I could careless about CU's one NC. Auburns won two since 83 and you don't hear people throwing out there name in this thread. I've said nothing bad about CU in this thread other then you can't call them a powerhouse. They are in the top 25 I'll give you that but you can't put them in the top 10.

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 06:46 PM
You can't just look at a period in time and say hey look we were better then this team during that time so we are the better team. A teams history is just that its HISTORY. I could careless about CU's one NC. Auburns won two since 83 and you don't hear people throwing out there name in this thread. I've said nothing bad about CU in this thread other then you can't call them a powerhouse. They are in the top 25 I'll give you that but you can't put them in the top 10.

FWIW, Auburn has won zero MNC's since 1983. They won one and their only one in 1957

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 06:56 PM
FWIW, Auburn has won zero MNC's since 1983. They won one and their only one in 1957

Well they suck then. Ha!

Master___Pain
10-04-2006, 06:58 PM
BTW, you guys going give back your MNC from 1997? Ya know since there was a highly controversial play, oddly enough, against Mizzou? Yeah, I did not think so.

DBroncos4life
10-04-2006, 07:00 PM
BTW, you guys going give back your MNC from 1997? Ya know since there was a highly controversial play, oddly enough, against Mizzou? Yeah, I did not think so.

Ours was a odd play, yours involved counting to 4. Ours was a call that would be ruled a catch 9 times out of 10. Yours involved counting to 4.

Florida_Bronco
10-04-2006, 07:35 PM
BTW, you guys going give back your MNC from 1997? Ya know since there was a highly controversial play, oddly enough, against Mizzou? Yeah, I did not think so.

I think we pretty much erased the doubt when we stomped the ever loving crap out of the Peyton Manning led Volunteers that year.

BroncoBuff
10-05-2006, 06:35 AM
I think youre in LA LA Land right now. I left off teams like ND, Tenn, and UF as well.


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1299949#post1299949

BroncoBuff
10-05-2006, 06:41 AM
"Why do the Buffalo's suck so bad?"

That title alone shouldda relegated this thread to the "Horse's Butt" immediately .... and these "kick 'em when they're down" haters don't even know their history ...




Sad.




You've been punked. Eat yer crow below here:

shakenbake
10-05-2006, 07:19 AM
The only problem I have with your list is that in one sentence get upset with DBroncos4life for being ignorant of history and then put a qualifier on your own history and say for the past "25 years". If your going to go with history then you need to include recent and past history. The reason why I think you need to include recent and past history is because both make up what a program is today. It is alot easier, with the right staff, for a program with a storied history to get players. ND for example has a built in advantage over a progrom like CU because of thier history. A top player is more likely to pick them over a team like CU.

Don't get me wrong I think CU has a good football program, but ask yourself this if Flordia and CU have a simiular strengh of schedule and are both undefeted (before BCS) who would win the National Championship. I would say Flordia, because on a national level they are a more respected program.

This doesn't even touch on the amount of support a team gets both from its school and its Alumni. Have you seen the facilities that some of those other programs you listed above CU have. LSU just finished theirs and its sick. I don't know if you have updated them recently but I know a few years ago they were clearly behind other schools in the Big XII as far a facilities are concerned.

ColoradoBuff
10-05-2006, 07:29 AM
Snake and Pain what odds do you give NU vs UT this year? That game will be Texas first road game of the year. I hope that I can score tickets to that one as well!!!

With your banged up secondary, UT wins by at least two TD's. At least!:thanku:

BroncoBuff
10-05-2006, 07:35 AM
Don't get me wrong I think CU has a good football program, but ask yourself this if Flordia and CU have a simiular strengh of schedule and are both undefeted (before BCS) who would win the National Championship. I would say Flordia, because on a national level they are a more respected program.

This doesn't even touch on the amount of support a team gets both from its school and its Alumni. Have you seen the facilities that some of those other programs you listed above CU have. LSU just finished theirs and its sick. I don't know if you have updated them recently but I know a few years ago they were clearly behind other schools in the Big XII as far a facilities are concerned.

Excellent points ... I've gotta ratchet back some on this. I see this thread title, and I get pretty hot. Especially these days. It takes a "special" kind of person to start a thread with this title - especially these days, when we're obviously down.

You're probably right .... Florida has a bit higher rep. But I stand by my statement that CU has a better 25 year history that Florida .... back to Charlie Pell. ( i know .... 25 is arbitrary, but you gotta pick a point. I don't know much history beffore then)

I hadn't heard about LSU's new facilities ... (lots of new construction in LA, right?) ... A&M has incredible new facilities I saw on FoxSports Southwest last year - the "Dennis Franchione Show" ... and Oklahoma State football just got a $175 million check (yup - 175 million) from alum T. Boone Pickens. CU's facilities are positively stone-age .... or at least they still were 3 years ago when I was last there. I hope Hawk can get some checks written, because we're losing kids because of it.

shakenbake
10-05-2006, 08:57 AM
LSU's new facilities: http://homepage.mac.com/bmarvin/lsu/index.html

DBroncos4life
10-05-2006, 11:14 AM
An athletic arms race


The statues of legendary coach Tom Osborne and former quarterback Brook Berringer greet fans at the athletic complex entrance. Photo: Bruce Thorson
by Robin Washut
September 18, 2006


Cody Glenn got the whole show, everything from jumbo screens and locker room Xboxes to plans for a 40-foot waterfall.

During his senior year of high school, Glenn, now a sophomore I-back at Nebraska, traveled to four Big 12 Conference schools for official recruiting visits. He met coaches, toured campuses and even caught a few football games along the way.

Each school was looking to offer him something different, anything it could boast of having that no other school had. Essentially, each did its best to flaunt what is referred to as the “wow factor.”

With such an emphasis placed upon winning and immediate results in college sports, competition for top recruits has never been tougher. The resulting pressure has spawned an arms race among athletic departments to show just how far each is willing to go to provide the ultimate environment for its student athletes.

For proof of this buildup, look no further than the Big 12. Since the conference was formed in 1996, its schools have spent a combined $1.6 billion on athletic facilities, more than any other conference in the country.

The correlation between high-priced facilities and improved performance may be debatable, but players like Glenn are proof that the spending doesn’t go unnoticed in the eyes of recruits.

“I was recruited by Texas A&M last year, too, and I went and visited them after they just got new facilities, and ours are way better,” he said. “Recruits coming in here are going to be wondering where their letter of intent is because it’s that nice. It’s pretty safe to say that we have the nicest facilities in the Big 12.”

Nebraska athletic director Steve Pederson said the Huskers are back in the forefront of the national race with their new $50 million Tom and Nancy Osborne Athletic Complex, which includes a hydrotherapy training room, a world class weight room 40 percent larger than the old one and, just for kicks, a 40-foot waterfall in the main lobby.
Mike Riefer of Des Moines, Iowa, snaps a shot in front of the waterfall. The waterfall is the first thing visitors see once inside the complex doors. Photo: Bruce Thorson

“The Big 12 is spending money left and right,” said NU executive associate athletic director Marc Boehm. “The facility arms race is real. It’s really dictating what’s going on on campuses across the country. It’s almost getting to the point where some teams can’t compete. You see the trend here. You see the facilities craze. It’s only going to get higher and higher.”

At least 10 schools in the conference have built, are building or have announced plans to build new facilities in the past five years. Aside from Nebraska, the most notable projects are at Texas and Oklahoma State, where facility size and spending have hit record numbers.

Soon after Nebraska announced its plans to install a 118-foot by 34-foot video screen, Texas responded with plans for an even bigger screen of its own, known as “Godzillatron.”

At Oklahoma State, things are even more grandiose. Aided by a $165 million gift by alumni and oil tycoon T. Boone Pickens – the largest athletic donation in U.S. collegiate history – the Cowboys are in the process of building not just one or two new additions but an entire athletic village over five years.

To put Oklahoma State’s athletic spending in perspective, the school spent just $11 million on facilities from 1967 to 2000.

"A long period of neglect is what we faced, and trying to be competitive in the Big 12 conference and nationally is our motivation,” said Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder. "It gives you a chance. It really gets you to the starting line with a chance to step up and maybe compete for the best athletes, have a chance to attract and retain the best coaches. If you have those two things, then you have a chance to be competitive."
Fans stroll onto the field for a sneak peek of the new big-screen during an open house for the Osborne Athletic Complex. Photo: Bruce Thorson

Why are schools willing to shell out such enormous sums on athletics? In the Big 12 at least, it all comes down to football.

At Nebraska, each home football game generates roughly $2.5 million. The next highest earner is men’s basketball at about $400,000 per home game.

Because football is by far the biggest moneymaker, it is generally the main beneficiary of new facilities. While all 19 of Nebraska’s varsity sports will benefit in some way from the new complex, a focal point of the project - the indoor practice field - was built for football.

So why does football require such elaborate facilities? In a word, the answer is recruiting.

“I think (the new facility) gives an advantage to a point,” Nebraska head football coach Bill Callahan said. “For us, at Nebraska, it puts us up there and allows us to compete with anybody … We don’t have beaches or mountains here in Nebraska, but what we can offer is great championship facilities, and that certainly will give us an edge.

“In our own (Big 12 North) division it gives us an edge in terms of competitiveness, and I also think nationally it puts us right up there at the top.”

Whether the additions will have the intended effects on potential recruits in the coming years remains to be seen, but for now, many university students have embraced the new facilities.

They said they are pleased with the new look, especially the giant video screen.

“I think it’s definitely worth it,” said Jared Wadell, a sophomore accounting major. “It shows that we’re serious about keeping up with the rest of the nation. If it brings in good players and we keep winning, who cares how much they spend?”

Other students, however, said they feel the athletic department’s spending spree is putting the public focus of the university on its sports teams rather than on academics.

“I think it’s a terrible idea,” said Ben Johnson, a junior secondary education major. “It takes money and contributions away from research programs and academic programs and puts it all towards one exclusive group, which in this case are football players. It really limits the opportunities average students could be having.”

While Oklahoma State got all of its funding in one record-setting check, other schools, including Nebraska, are still in the process of raising enough money to pay off their debts.

Pederson wouldn’t give specifics about where Nebraska is in its fundraising efforts, but he did say the department was past the halfway mark.

Although some may question committing $50 million to a privately funded project before all of that money has been raised, the athletic department says it’s only trying to keep up with the rest of the Big 12.

“(The facilities) say a lot about things we believe and the things that have made Nebraska athletics special across the board,” Pederson said. “We anticipate that once our fans see the building and all that we’ve done here, they’ll want to help us.”

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DBroncos4life
10-05-2006, 11:17 AM
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=57698&SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=603667

If you take the time you can look over the new stuff added to our stadium.