View Full Version : Here is one reason were fighting a losing battle
Hotrod
10-03-2006, 04:29 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2385384,00.html
THE followers of Moqtada al-Sadr believe that the US invaded Iraq to prevent the return to Earth of their sect’s messiah-like figure, the Mahdi, or 12th imam.
Hojatoleslam al-Sadr claims that his militia is preparing for the day when the Mahdi, the last direct descendent of the revered Shia figure Ali, reappears. Shia believe that the Mahdi, who disappeared in 868, will bring justice to Earth.
At a prayer service in the central Iraqi city of Kufa on September 15, the cleric told a crowd of thousands that the Americans were collecting a dossier on the Mahdi to prevent his return. “Did you ever ask yourself about why all of this, the bloodshed and the prisons? Why are the brothers fighting each other for a political game planned by the Americans? This all happened because they (the Americans) are waiting for the Mahdi. This planning started ten years ago. They have a big file for Imam Mahdi and they just need his picture to complete it.”
Hojatoleslam al-Sadr and his advisers are convinced that the Americans want to destroy Islam and stop the Mahdi. “The Americans are trying to hijack Islamic movements. They think that these are serving the Mahdi’s interests. Whatever they did in Afghanistan and Iraq are all attempts to hijack the Mahdi’s return.”
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Hotrod
10-03-2006, 04:31 PM
So once we get this dead guys picture we win........freaking nuts.
defenseman
10-03-2006, 04:35 PM
So once we get this dead guys picture we win........freaking nuts.
Yep, pretty crazy out there in some cultures..dman
we shoulda killed sadr early on, but nooooooo, we let politics get in the way.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2006, 08:01 PM
THE followers of Moqtada al-Sadr believe that the US invaded Iraq to prevent the return to Earth of their sect’s messiah-like figure, the Mahdi, or 12th imam.
:rofl:
That's some whacky sh*t.
(Well, only slightly more whacky than the Busheviks' belief that the US invaded Iraq to "liberate" the Iraqi people, to "spread democracy and freedom," etc.)
gunns
10-03-2006, 08:39 PM
Yep, pretty crazy out there in some cultures..dman
Including our own.
yavoon
10-03-2006, 08:50 PM
:rofl:
That's some whacky sh*t.
(Well, only slightly more whacky than the Busheviks' belief that the US invaded Iraq to "liberate" the Iraqi people, to "spread democracy and freedom," etc.)
I'm probably gna regret entering a bush-bashathon. but one of the preceps of the neocon strategy in the middle east involves a democratic iraq as a lever to reshape the region. it always has.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2006, 09:31 PM
I'm probably gna regret entering a bush-bashathon. but one of the preceps of the neocon strategy in the middle east involves a democratic iraq as a lever to reshape the region. it always has.
But it's the neocons' concept of "democracy" that's dubious and whacky - not their stated objectives.
maven
10-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Keep hammering LA Broncs fan. Soon people will realize there are more than two options when going to the polls.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-03-2006, 09:38 PM
Keep hammering LA Broncs fan. Soon people will realize there are more than two options when going to the polls.
Should the Bush supporters keep 'hammering' too?
BTW, what are these other options of which you speak?
yavoon
10-03-2006, 11:09 PM
But it's the neocons' concept of "democracy" that's dubious and whacky - not their stated objectives.
whatever u say man.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2006, 12:36 AM
whatever u say man.
Riiiiiiight.
The assessment that BushCo's misguided attempt to establish "democracy" at gunpoint in Iraq is a complete disaster has absolutely no basis in fact - none whatsoever.
That's the ticket.
http://www.bartcop.com/gop-kool-aid06.jpg
Let us bring you democracy Bush style and you too can have babies that look like gummy bears...
http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/untitled18.JPG
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2006, 01:02 AM
Let us bring you democracy Bush style and you too can have babies that look like gummy bears...
So much for the fake "Christians" who support this criminal administration and their "always err on the side of life" horsesh*t.
Just like the smirking sociopath in the WH, these people have a hardon for war.
You can tell they're just itching for Bush to attack Iran.
So much for the fake "Christians" who support this criminal administration and their "always err on the side of life" horsesh*t.
Just like the smirking sociopath in the WH, these people have a hardon for war.
<b>You can tell they're just itching for Bush to attack Iran.</b>
Yes, Basically weak people who eat shiit everyday and are too afraid to say anything so yes their country beating up on someone allows them to gleam satisfaction and a sense of feel good by association.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2006, 01:36 AM
Yes, Basically weak people who eat shiit everyday and are too afraid to say anything so yes their country beating up on someone allows them to gleam satisfaction and a sense of feel good by association.
Correct.
These people didn't learn anything about themselves from Vietnam, and haven't evolved at all since that war.
They still need a boogeyman to project their shadows onto.
LABF go see Lennon vs. The United States it"s good.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-04-2006, 02:51 AM
LABF go see Lennon vs. The United States it"s good.
Sounds interesting. :thumbsup:
ClevelandBronco
10-04-2006, 03:40 AM
"You can give your hearts to God. But your asses belong to the Marines!"
http://www.moviebazaar.de/filmfull.jpg
gunns
10-04-2006, 06:26 AM
Correct.
These people didn't learn anything about themselves from Vietnam, and haven't evolved at all since that war.
They still need a boogeyman to project their shadows onto.
Or didn't experience the Vietnam era and don't recognize the similarities.
Or the Cold War era when fear was used and people built bomb shelters. Hello, it was us that dropped the big one.