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bronco militia
10-03-2006, 01:08 PM
Randy Moss would welcome a trade from the Raiders. Moss, appearing as a guest on The Drive with Chris Myers and Sean Farnham on Fox Sports Radio, was asked how he's dealing with the team's 0-3 start: “I’m doing good man, I’m not even that too concerned with football right now. I’m just loving life.”

Myers asked Moss if he want to play somewhere else? "The way it seems; I’m not the only one unhappy around here. If me moving elsewhere is what my future holds then I’m ready to see it.”

Would Moss welcome a trade? "I don’t want to be the downfall, or the negative or the cancer of the team. That’s definitely not my goal to do. If they feel trading me and getting me out is the best thing to do, I’ve been traded once, two won’t hurt.”

http://www.benmaller.com/

Smiling Assassin27
10-03-2006, 01:16 PM
Dude will be cancerous on ANY team he goes to. But at least a team with smarter coaches would utilize the guy more. I bet we see him in Miami soon.

Clockwork Orange
10-03-2006, 01:17 PM
Name one Fade player who wouldn't welcome a trade right about now.

Man-Goblin
10-03-2006, 01:28 PM
Glad to hear Randy is doing good, man.

Bronx33
10-03-2006, 01:45 PM
Randy is probably kicking himself in the butt for even going there.

TXBRONC
10-03-2006, 02:01 PM
Dude will be cancerous on ANY team he goes to. But at least a team with smarter coaches would utilize the guy more. I bet we see him in Miami soon.

Randy's biggest problem is that he doesn't always work hard.

watermock
10-03-2006, 02:07 PM
Moss never said he wanted to be traded at all. He just said he wouldn't oppose it. The question and thread was baited.

"I don’t want to be the downfall, or the negative or the cancer of the team. That’s definitely not my goal to do. If they feel trading me and getting me out is the best thing to do, I’ve been traded once, two won’t hurt.”

I could care less about Moss, but don't put words in his mouth.

GonzoLays
10-03-2006, 02:13 PM
I'd take Randy Moss in a heartbeat. Walker and Moss? What? Good luck trying to game plan those two guys. Wait, we have George Foster starting at RT. Our QB doesn't have enough time to take a three step drop with stone feet George blocking his rightside, much less attempting to take a deep drop to make a big play down the field.

George Foster prevents Shanahan from using half his playbook.

crush17
10-03-2006, 02:16 PM
Dude will be cancerous on ANY team he goes to. But at least a team with smarter coaches would utilize the guy more. I bet we see him in Miami soon.


Tell me exactly what he's done to be a cancer on the Raiders' team?
Since he's been there, he has been quiet about any issues he has with the coaching and often times he's been a big motivator for that team. I hardly see that as being a cancer.

I think he learned his lessons in Minnesota and he won't act like that again wherever he ends up.

You don't see him tearing teams apart and taking too many pain pills so he can stay on the front page all the time do you?

I don't know why I'm even defending him so adamently, but it just bothers me to see someone talk **** about a guy who really hasn't done anything wrong in almost two years if not more.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-03-2006, 02:17 PM
Name one Fade player who wouldn't welcome a trade right about now.

The 20 or so who couldn't make any NFL roster but the Raiders

Elway 4 Life
10-03-2006, 02:25 PM
Tell me exactly what he's done to be a cancer on the Raiders' team?
Since he's been there, he has been quiet about any issues he has with the coaching and often times he's been a big motivator for that team. I hardly see that as being a cancer.

I think he learned his lessons in Minnesota and he won't act like that again wherever he ends up.

You don't see him tearing teams apart and taking too many pain pills so he can stay on the front page all the time do you?

I don't know why I'm even defending him so adamently, but it just bothers me to see someone talk **** about a guy who really hasn't done anything wrong in almost two years if not more.

Have you seen him play in those two years? Your right in one thing he has been quiet.

He is the laziest player I have ever seen. He used to dominate everyone, now he is just ho-hum out on the field. He has no passion for the game. He hasnt done anything wrong in two years but he also has done s@#t stat wise in two years.

RANDY MOSS = NON-FACTOR

Orange_Beard
10-03-2006, 02:41 PM
Swap him for Brett Farve.

Rascal
10-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Pats have the cap room and an extra first rounder. Might be a logical destination.

TXBRONC
10-03-2006, 03:12 PM
Have you seen him play in those two years? Your right in one thing he has been quiet.

He is the laziest player I have ever seen. He used to dominate everyone, now he is just ho-hum out on the field. He has no passion for the game. He hasnt done anything wrong in two years but he also has done s@#t stat wise in two years.

RANDY MOSS = NON-FACTOR


True Moss gets lazy, but last season he was hurt for a good portion of the year.

Garcia Bronco
10-03-2006, 03:13 PM
Am I the only one that can never understand what exactly Moss is talking about?

MechanicalBull
10-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Moss never said he wanted to be traded at all. He just said he wouldn't oppose it. The question and thread was baited.



I could care less about Moss, but don't put words in his mouth.

I agree with Mock here. That's how I felt when I read it, he never said trade me like Jerry Porter, he simply said if they want to trade me I am fine with that.

Also I don't think Moss is a cancer on this team. He might not hustle all the time but he doesn't tear up the locker or do anything disruptive. From everything I read and heard this offseason is that he is one of the leaders of the team and bought in to Art Shell's system.

Hercules Rockefeller
10-03-2006, 03:18 PM
Pats have the cap room and an extra first rounder. Might be a logical destination.

It'll cost more than a late 1st for Moss

BroncoMan4ever
10-03-2006, 03:18 PM
Tell me exactly what he's done to be a cancer on the Raiders' team?
Since he's been there, he has been quiet about any issues he has with the coaching and often times he's been a big motivator for that team. I hardly see that as being a cancer.

I think he learned his lessons in Minnesota and he won't act like that again wherever he ends up.

You don't see him tearing teams apart and taking too many pain pills so he can stay on the front page all the time do you?

I don't know why I'm even defending him so adamently, but it just bothers me to see someone talk **** about a guy who really hasn't done anything wrong in almost two years if not more.

I would gladly welcome him to Denver. Walker Moss, Kircus, Marshall, and Scheff would be freaky for opposing defenses.

Rascal
10-03-2006, 03:25 PM
It'll cost more than a late 1st for Moss

Not significantly more. Moss's contract makes him less valuable. Probably a first and another first day pick.

Orange_Beard
10-03-2006, 04:03 PM
Pats have the cap room and an extra first rounder. Might be a logical destination.

I don' t really see him as a Tom Bradie type wideout. Bradie excels in the short to mid-range game. To me he would be a miss match in NE.

rovolution
10-03-2006, 04:09 PM
i see a reunion w/ Culpepper in MIA.

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-03-2006, 04:29 PM
i see a reunion w/ Culpepper in MIA.

He and Herr Sabin would come to blows within a week.

Killericon
10-03-2006, 04:39 PM
Dude will be cancerous on ANY team he goes to. But at least a team with smarter coaches would utilize the guy more. I bet we see him in Miami soon.

When has ever been cancerous? Ever?

fido
10-03-2006, 04:39 PM
I would gladly welcome him to Denver.

ditto

DenverBrit
10-03-2006, 04:41 PM
Moss signing with the Raiders was a blessing.

He is no longer a threat.

Imagine him at NE.

Tredici
10-03-2006, 04:49 PM
“I’m doing good man, I’m not even that too concerned with football right now. I’m just loving life.”


http://www.benmaller.com/

There's the issue. Not concerned with football. Getting paid. Doing nothing.

Randy Moss is smarter than a lot of people give him credit for. How much money did Oakland GIVE him again?

Killericon
10-03-2006, 04:49 PM
Moss signing with the Raiders was a blessing.

He is no longer a threat.

Imagine him at NE.

I think he'd try for Atlanta...and they'd try for him.

Him in NE...Oh God. I'm getting nightmares just thinking about it.

Barry Ramey
10-03-2006, 05:53 PM
I've watched Moss in about a handful of games or so the last couple of years and it looks very clear to me he either has problems with his legs or doesn't go all out in his routes. He's either damaged goods or dogging it, I don't know which one. I don't see the explosion from him down the field much at all anymore.

Billy Clyde Puckett
10-03-2006, 06:00 PM
I think he is just going through the motions because he knows the Fade offense is dead in the water

Rock Chalk
10-03-2006, 06:47 PM
Tell me exactly what he's done to be a cancer on the Raiders' team?
Since he's been there, he has been quiet about any issues he has with the coaching and often times he's been a big motivator for that team. I hardly see that as being a cancer.

I think he learned his lessons in Minnesota and he won't act like that again wherever he ends up.

You don't see him tearing teams apart and taking too many pain pills so he can stay on the front page all the time do you?

I don't know why I'm even defending him so adamently, but it just bothers me to see someone talk **** about a guy who really hasn't done anything wrong in almost two years if not more.

You're wasting your breath man. Once these people get something in their heads, there is no changing their minds.

Im with ya though. Moss looks like he has truly changed. He might still take plays off, I dont really know for certain, all I know is that he isn't a lockerroom cancer anymore and that he has kept his mouth shut.

But these tards have it in their head he is still the same Minnesota Randy and I think that a year and a half with the Raiders have shown him to have changed.

JMO though.

Rock Chalk
10-03-2006, 06:50 PM
Have you seen him play in those two years? Your right in one thing he has been quiet.

He is the laziest player I have ever seen. He used to dominate everyone, now he is just ho-hum out on the field. He has no passion for the game. He hasnt done anything wrong in two years but he also has done s@#t stat wise in two years.

RANDY MOSS = NON-FACTOR

2005 Randy Moss = HURT.

Or do you not pay attention to football outside your little world?

2006 Randy Moss = No QB, No Oline to protect the No QB = Not Randy's Fault He is Non Factor.

Not that he doesnt take off plays mind you, but blaming the stats on Randy is ludicrous at best.

ak1971
10-03-2006, 06:56 PM
You're wasting your breath man. Once these people get something in their heads, there is no changing their minds.

Im with ya though. Moss looks like he has truly changed. He might still take plays off, I dont really know for certain, all I know is that he isn't a lockerroom cancer anymore and that he has kept his mouth shut.

But these tards have it in their head he is still the same Minnesota Randy and I think that a year and a half with the Raiders have shown him to have changed.

JMO though.

Moss is actually one smart dude..you know he is a owns a major chunk of a Ft Collins juice co?

Rich Karlis
10-03-2006, 06:57 PM
If I had Andrew Walter at QB I would have no problem with a trade either.

Raider Bill
10-03-2006, 06:59 PM
Tell me exactly what he's done to be a cancer on the Raiders' team?
Since he's been there, he has been quiet about any issues he has with the coaching and often times he's been a big motivator for that team. I hardly see that as being a cancer.

I think he learned his lessons in Minnesota and he won't act like that again wherever he ends up.

You don't see him tearing teams apart and taking too many pain pills so he can stay on the front page all the time do you?

I don't know why I'm even defending him so adamently, but it just bothers me to see someone talk **** about a guy who really hasn't done anything wrong in almost two years if not more.



****ing guy plays with absolutely no effort.

Rock Chalk
10-03-2006, 07:00 PM
Andrew Walter, Aaron Brooks, doesnt matter behind that sieve of an oline. No QB no matter how good would be able to let Randy make plays downfield because they dont have time to allow Randy to get Downfield.

And everyone and their mother knows Randy isnt going over the middle all the time, if ever.

Raider Bill
10-03-2006, 07:00 PM
2005 Randy Moss = HURT.

Or do you not pay attention to football outside your little world?

2006 Randy Moss = No QB, No Oline to protect the No QB = Not Randy's Fault He is Non Factor.

Not that he doesnt take off plays mind you, but blaming the stats on Randy is ludicrous at best.


We would have won that game if he didnt dog his route on a play where he was the primary option. He jogged out of the blocks and the pass ended up being overthrown by inches.

Rock Chalk
10-03-2006, 07:01 PM
****ing guy plays with absolutely no effort.

Do you know how to read?

No one said Randy wasnt lazy. No one said he didnt take plays off. People are contesting that he is a CANCER.

Oh, damn, Just realized I was talking to a dip**** raider fan.

Circle Orange
10-03-2006, 07:26 PM
Randy could go to San Fran and take over where T.O. got started...then will NFL karma come full circle.

Cito Pelon
10-03-2006, 08:12 PM
Why anybody would want Moss on their team or go out of their way to defend him is unfathomable to me. He quits on many a play, doesn't compete for the ball well, generally has lackadaisical effort. He's not worth even a vet-minimum contract.

-Slap-
10-03-2006, 08:18 PM
The guy is getting $10 million a year, he says he doesn't even care about football and people think that's acceptable behavior. Its amazing how our standards for athletes just keep dipping lower and lower.

gunns
10-03-2006, 08:23 PM
Have you seen him play in those two years? Your right in one thing he has been quiet.

He is the laziest player I have ever seen. He used to dominate everyone, now he is just ho-hum out on the field. He has no passion for the game. He hasnt done anything wrong in two years but he also has done s@#t stat wise in two years.

RANDY MOSS = NON-FACTOR

He's on the Raiders! What player doesn't look lazy? I've been one of the biggest bad mouthers of Moss in his career, his refusal to block, his immature attitude, but I ask how in the hell could any player on the Raiders do anything stat worthy?

gunns
10-03-2006, 08:35 PM
Randy's biggest problem is that he doesn't always work hard.


It used to be. His biggest problem right now, though, is Al Davis. If he actually states he wants a trade, he'll never get traded. But I can't imagine anyone in that organization that wouldn't like out at this point. For at least the past 22 years Al's focus is more on revenge than football.

I have to hand it to Randy. He's been a big mouth and done immature things in the past. Now, when he has more reason than ever to open his big mouth, he hasn't. It might be total embarrassment, it might be an on surge of maturity, regardless it's been nice not hearing his mouth run. We could only wish the same of TO.

No, he's not coming to Denver. Al would never trade with Shanahan, unless he could have our entire draft to embarrass us and that would never happen.

-Slap-
10-03-2006, 08:43 PM
It used to be. His biggest problem right now, though, is Al Davis. If he actually states he wants a trade, he'll never get traded. But I can't imagine anyone in that organization that wouldn't like out at this point. For at least the past 22 years Al's focus is more on revenge than football.

This is a great point. I believe Randy intuitively understands that Al is an even bigger asshole than he is and he's treading lightly right now.

Tredici
10-03-2006, 11:38 PM
You're wasting your breath man. Once these people get something in their heads, there is no changing their minds.

Im with ya though. Moss looks like he has truly changed. He might still take plays off, I dont really know for certain, all I know is that he isn't a lockerroom cancer anymore and that he has kept his mouth shut.

But these tards have it in their head he is still the same Minnesota Randy and I think that a year and a half with the Raiders have shown him to have changed.

JMO though.

Let's watch who you are calling tards. There are all sorts ways cancer can invade an organism. The silent type no one knows is there is just as harmful. Walking around saying the right things but not putting any of it on the field isn't exactly improving the health of the Raider organization. Saying right now he isn't all that concerned with football after week 3? Lots of things still look fine until you cut into them....

Killericon
10-04-2006, 12:14 AM
The guy is getting $10 million a year, he says he doesn't even care about football and people think that's acceptable behavior. Its amazing how our standards for athletes just keep dipping lower and lower.

I’m not even that too concerned with football right now. I’m just loving life.

You kind of took Not Even That Concerned and turned it into Don't Even Care, huh?

I interpreted as more a statement that he's not letting the losing bother him. I mean...If you mention Raiders and Football in the same breath these days, it means losing, right?

Los Broncos
10-04-2006, 12:15 AM
I watched that game v the browns, he takes plays off.

HitEmCold
10-04-2006, 12:30 AM
I thought Moss looked liked he cared about football when he was celebrating his touchdown catch Sunday. I still respect his skills, and I also think his attitude is better now than ever. In the right offense, he would dominate oppsing defenses again.

Davis would never trade him to us, hopefully the crazy old bat wouldn't be stupid enough to trade him to K.C. or San Diego.

Tredici
10-04-2006, 12:35 AM
You kind of took Not Even That Concerned and turned it into Don't Even Care, huh?

I interpreted as more a statement that he's not letting the losing bother him. I mean...If you mention Raiders and Football in the same breath these days, it means losing, right?

As an exceptional athlete, highly compensated for his skills he shouldn't be one of those accepting Raiders means losing. The only way to stop that is to step up. Randy chooses to sit down. At least Porter wants to be competitive. Nothing worse than complacency in a key individual in the organization.

To quote Mike Shanahan -- That kind of guy won't win you a Championship.