Annoying "Pity Party" during MNF...

[Circle Orange]

I mean really, the game was an egg by the fourth quarter. And once again the announcers bored everyone with endless reasons/explanations/excuses for Brett Favre. Why he stayed, what about Aaron Rogers. How he overcame personal tragedy. How the team is so YOUNG and Brett doesn't have a supporting cast. All his family tragedies outlined once again for your viewing enjoyment. How he's such a nice person. Blah, blah... :puff:

If you haven't heard all these topics before, raise your hand.

At some point when the game's a turkey, just pan the fans in the stands. At least their makeup was interesting. I liked the bald guy with the beard who was green down to his neck. He's probably all broken out this morning, though.

[MechanicalBull]

Last night during the game I was thinking pretty much the same thing. All the so called experts say Vince Young should start because the Titans aren't going anywhere so might as well throw him in the and get some experience, Leinart should start because he is the future of the team and Warner turns the ball over way too much.

But the announcers defend Favre to the death and say you can't put Aaron Rodgers in cause Favre gives them the best chance to win. The Packers aren't going anywhere and Favre is on pace for 20 ints again this year so might as well put Rodgers in to see what he has. I don't know if anyone heard Madden on Sunday night but he was calling Grossman and young Favre, so I guess when he does retire Madden will still be talking about him.

[watermock]

The guy has been throwing up ducks for picks for 3 years and they still don't get it.

He's literally playing himself out of the HOF. He's thrown 260 interceptions.

The talking heads refuse to acknowlege that Favre is simply cashing in checks at around 800K per week. Ho lost any credibility altogether when he claimed this was the most talented team he had ever been on before the season. People love to talk about how Jake throws picks, but they have been ignoring Favre's picks for over a decade. If he sticks around cashing checks one more year, he's going to set a dubious record.

[watermock]

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/0918/tmq_w_cheerleaders_275.jpg

"Do you see any tangarine colored nipple gloss on these hands?

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/0918/tmq_a_starr_275.jpg

[GonzoLays]

Has there ever been a dumber football player than Brett Favre? Last night was a perfect example of Brett Favre being Brett Favre. He has a wide open tight end down the middle of the field and underthrows him by seven yards and is intercepted by Michael Lewis. On atleast FOUR occasions, his WR's turned into DB's and had to knock down the pass from a wide open opposing DB. If it weren't for Mike Holmgren's genius, Brett Favre would have 400 ints by now.

And you know what? There a thousands of sheep out there baaaahhhaaaing, "Well, Brett's old school. That's just Brett being Brett. I do what I am told." STFU

[Paladin]

What really concerns me is that so many of the Cutlerites have compared Cutler to Favre. I hope to Christmas that is not the case. Maybe they are talking about a different characteristic?

For several years, now - since before the SB - I have been less than impressed with Favre. He has an unimpressive "one-half to three-quarters" throwing motion that simply defies logic; accurracy would be sort of like throwing darts sidearmed. Seems like his throws are always a bit short, low and off target; he relies on teh WRs to get to the area and make catches. Of course, there is most always a defender in his face, so I imagine throwing off the back foot while running is acceptable because he is "just trying to make a play."

The Puckers are about the same as the Faiders about now. If you think aout it, the Bay Area crowds and the Puckers should get the top three picks next April in whatever order.

RIP, Favre.

[GonzoLays]

What really concerns me is that so many of the Cutlerites have compared Cutler to Favre. I hope to Christmas that is not the case. Maybe they are talking about a different characteristic?

For several years, now - since before the SB - I have been less than impressed with Favre. He has an unimpressive "one-half to three-quarters" throwing motion that simply defies logic; accurracy would be sort of like throwing darts sidearmed. Seems like his throws are always a bit short, low and off target; he relies on teh WRs to get to the area and make catches. Of course, there is most always a defender in his face, so I imagine throwing off the back foot while running is acceptable because he is "just trying to make a play."

The Puckers are about the same as the Faiders about now. If you think aout it, the Bay Area crowds and the Puckers should get the top three picks next April in whatever order.

RIP, Favre.

I don't know if you were watching the game last night, but Brett Favre had twice as long to throw the ball compared to Jake Plummer. Favre had a pocket to throw the ball throughout the game.

During his career, he has played behind some great offensive lines as well. One time he had three pro-bowlers starting for him.

I personally think Favre scored a two on the wonderlic. He had all the physical tools you look for coming out of college, yet he was a second round draft pick?

[BroncoFanatic]

I used to respect Favre, but those days are loooooooong gone.

IMO, he is still playing ONLY to get the all-time win record. No matter that he hurts his team or fans, he wants that individual record. Selfish turd. :thumbsdow

[GonzoLays]

I used to respect Favre, but those days are loooooooong gone.

IMO, he is still playing ONLY to get the all-time win record. No matter that he hurts his team or fans, he wants that individual record. Selfish turd. :thumbsdow


Naa, he is playing for the money. Where else is going to make cash like that?

[shakenbake]

Hasn't Farve admitted that he didn't have a basic understanding of defenses untill like year 3 of his pro career, and then only learned after a back-up qb explained it to him.

[watermock]

Naa, he is playing for the money. Where else is going to make cash like that?

Donald Trump has been e-mailing him daily.

People that don't realize he's just cashing in checks are well, Madden devotees....

[Circle Orange]

And all of the ex qb announcers thinking he's OKAY are bordering on stupidity.

"Let Brett play." is the mantra. So to hell with the team, to hell with the future, its all about a guy holding down the franchise and doing his thing. Even Tom Jackson said Favre KNEW the team wasn't going anywhere when he came back. Brett's hung on too long...his career in the NFL has no direction or focus whatsoever. What's the point? What does he hope to accomplish? Nothing, except grabbing the cash. And I wish these announcers would get up off it and admit this.

Favre (skips happily onto the field, lobs toss) "I threw a ball into the air, it came to earth I know not where!" :ouwknow:

[shakenbake]

And by basic I mean he didn't know what a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense was.

[watermock]

Favre: Shut up, I have to cash a check...

he's making 800k per week and would be lucky to catch minimum wage in the bayous.

[Atlas]

He just isn't a good football player anymore, which is strange. He still has all the tools to play. Why is he making dumber decisions.. He should be playing smarter in his old age.

He never met a double coverage that he didn't like.

[Bronco Bob]

Didn't they also say at one point in the game that Favre returned this year
because he didn't have anything better to do?

[KipCorrington25]

The bigger question is why the f*** is Green Bay even on Monday night? They are terrible, they were terrible last year also so don't put them on!

And that 45 minute in depth interview with Steve McNair was just bizare, I thought I was watching 60 Minutes there for a while. Lame.

[Mountain Bronco]

The bad thing about Favre sticking around is the possibility that he breaks Elway's record as the winningest QB ever. That would be sad.

[milehimike]

I used to respect Favre, but those days are loooooooong gone.

IMO, he is still playing ONLY to get the all-time win record. No matter that he hurts his team or fans, he wants that individual record. Selfish turd. :thumbsdowI keep telling all the cheeseheads, he's not a team player anymore. He plays for records now, he needs 9 more wins to beat John Elway. Farve just has marino and Elway's records in his sights, thats why he came back, not to be a team player[what team].

[Atlas]

I keep telling all the cheeseheads, he's not a team player anymore. He plays for records now, he needs 9 more wins to beat John Elway. Farve just has marino and Elway's records in his sights, thats why he came back, not to be a team player[what team].

at this rate he is going to have to play 3 more years to get those 9 wins.

[Bronx33]

at this rate he is going to have to play 3 more years to get those 9 wins.


Ha! exactly.

[CBF1]

And Mcnair said Bret has 4 or 5 more years left in him. WTF am I missing watching him? BF is just a poor decision maker.

[-Slap-]

I mean really, the game was an egg by the fourth quarter. And once again the announcers bored everyone with endless reasons/explanations/excuses for Brett Favre. Why he stayed, what about Aaron Rogers. How he overcame personal tragedy. How the team is so YOUNG and Brett doesn't have a supporting cast. All his family tragedies outlined once again for your viewing enjoyment. How he's such a nice person. Blah, blah... :puff:

If you haven't heard all these topics before, raise your hand.

At some point when the game's a turkey, just pan the fans in the stands. At least their makeup was interesting. I liked the bald guy with the beard who was green down to his neck. He's probably all broken out this morning, though.

Of course we've heard these topics before. You and the other redundant fools on this board beat them to death every time Favre's team loses. Of course, none of you had anything to say when he threw for 680 yards and six touchdowns in weeks two and three.

Anyone who watched that game (or understands the game of football) would realize Favre did more than enough to win the ballgame last night. Unfortunately he can't play cornerback, too.

[Requiem]

Brett Favre is my hero.

[-Slap-]

What really concerns me is that so many of the Cutlerites have compared Cutler to Favre. I hope to Christmas that is not the case. Maybe they are talking about a different characteristic?


Yeah, God forbid Jay should throw 400+ TDs and only have one losing season in a long NFL career.

[cabronco]

Instead of # 4 on Favre's jersey, they might as well put $$. What a pitiful game it was, the only interesting thing is when we'd get a glimpse of the Eagle cheerleaders. I'd rather watch them perform than the teams on the field. :wiggle:

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah, God forbid Jay should throw 400+ TDs and only have one losing season in a long NFL career.

Not to mention winning a Super Bowl, three MVP's and eight Pro Bowl appearances.

Man, what a suckhole career that would be. ::)

[BroncsRule]

9 wins to top elway - 18 tds to top Marino. That's why he plays. Well, that and they're dumb enough to pay him.

[bronco militia]

for a while there, the Pack were looking good running the Donk offense ....but in the end, Brett couldn't help himself.

Elway>Favre

[Beantown Bronco]

Anyone who watched that game (or understands the game of football) would realize Favre did more than enough to win the ballgame last night. Unfortunately he can't play cornerback, too.

Are you serious? He led them to a whole 9 pts, threw 2 picks and fumbled the ball away once....How is that doing "more than enough to win"? You are coming dangerously close to the "end of school prayer leading to school violence" post with this one. Unbelievable.

[-Slap-]

Are you serious? He led them to a whole 9 pts, threw 2 picks and fumbled the ball away once....How is that doing "more than enough to win"? You are coming dangerously close to the "end of school prayer leading to school violence" post with this one. Unbelievable.

Classic. I've never seen anyone so pathetic they had to try and attach Tensi's comments to me in an effort to discredit me.

First off, you didn't watch the ballgame. In typical puppethead fashion you're waiting for the likes of Circle Orange and Gonzo to do your thinking for you. Now you're chiming in with your one cent like the rest of the biased morons.

Favre had a touchdown dropped on the opening drive and he had his team ahead at halftime. People who actually watched the game or understand the sport might have noticed the adjustment Philly made at halftime. Their big strategic adjustment amounted to hucking the ball deep Ahmed Carroll's way for big completions and long PIs. The Packer offense didn't have a chance after that happened.

Maybe you noticed the Packers were 11.5 point underdogs on the road last night. They were supposed to get blown out of that game. Favre's play was the only thing that kept them in the contest into the third quarter.

[loborugger]

Of course we've heard these topics before. You and the other redundant fools on this board beat them to death every time Favre's team loses. Of course, none of you had anything to say when he threw for 680 yards and six touchdowns in weeks two and three.

Anyone who watched that game (or understands the game of football) would realize Favre did more than enough to win the ballgame last night. Unfortunately he can't play cornerback, too.


Ive been in here defending Brett a lot. And, like you, I agree that game was lost by the D - specifically the inability of Ahmad Carroll to cover anyone that moves faster than me doubled by the Pack not giving him safety help.

I noticed that Brett still has a cannon. Heck, there was on pass he made that shoulda been picked, but had too much mustard on it. (just my judgement).

He hit all the short passes.

However... he was off on pretty much anything over 15 yds down field. Maybe his timing was off, but I didnt see that the Eagles were playing too much bump and run. I wonder if his eyesight is shot? Cuz he sure can hit him short, and sure can miss em long.

Just my take.

[fdf]

And by basic I mean he didn't know what a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense was.

Did you mean "basic" like, "those guys over will try to tackle you?" Or, "Only throw the ball to someone who is wearing the same color uniform as you?"

[DeuceOfClub]

To quote another genius:

John madden: “All Favre is doing, is wining football games”

[watermock]

his career in the NFL has no direction or focus whatsoever.

His focus is to keep cashing in 800K per week. He knows they won't cut hm. All his is doing is riding out the string and pocketing millions. His lie about how great the team was going to be was laughable.

[Killericon]

Instead of # 4 on Favre's jersey, they might as well put $$. What a pitiful game it was, the only interesting thing is when we'd get a glimpse of the Eagle cheerleaders. I'd rather watch them perform than the teams on the field. :wiggle:

It was a fantastic game up until the late 3rd quarter! He's played great this year, and considering he was without his starting RB, I thought he did a fantastic job. The picks only came out of desperation, trying to make a play, which is acceptable in that situation.

Football fans are fickle. Next week, if he throws for 3 tds and 300 yards, there won't be a single topic about him.

[watermock]

Slappy was telling us how great he has been playing.

He's played great this year

Yep...being shut out by Chicago and losing to New Orleans is just great.

[Alkazar]

Has there ever been a dumber football player than Brett Favre? Last night was a perfect example of Brett Favre being Brett Favre. He has a wide open tight end down the middle of the field and underthrows him by seven yards and is intercepted by Michael Lewis. On atleast FOUR occasions, his WR's turned into DB's and had to knock down the pass from a wide open opposing DB. If it weren't for Mike Holmgren's genius, Brett Favre would have 400 ints by now.

And you know what? There a thousands of sheep out there baaaahhhaaaing, "Well, Brett's old school. That's just Brett being Brett. I do what I am told." STFU

I have to wonder how many time you defended Elway when statements like this were made about him by fans of other teams. Favre is currently one of the best QBs still playing the game, but like Elway in the early 90's just has a lousy team around him. While I would prefer Elway's records stand untouched a while longer, I wouldn't have too many gripes if it was Favre who broke them.

[Killericon]

Slappy was telling us how great he has been playing.



Yep...being shut out by Chicago and losing to New Orleans is just great.

His team has been ****, but he's played great. Besides, being shut out by Chicago is not a big deal, and NO has looked damn good thus far.

[Beantown Bronco]

First off, you didn't watch the ballgame. In typical puppethead fashion you're waiting for the likes of Circle Orange and Gonzo to do your thinking for you. Now you're chiming in with your one cent like the rest of the biased morons.

WRONG. Watched the entire game because my football pool was depending on it.

I love how you mention the potential TD that was dropped, but what about the 3 potential INTs that Philly defenders dropped. Favre was lucky his stat line wasn't worse. He's a detriment to his team now and 3/4 of the world can see it.

[2KBack]

The picks only came out of desperation, trying to make a play, which is acceptable in that situation.

Imagine someone on this board making this statement.

[Alkazar]

They make this statement all the time on this board defending Plummer but these same people were among the first to lambaste Greise for the same thing.

[Orange_Beard]

Didn't they also say at one point in the game that Favre returned this year
because he didn't have anything better to do?

10 million dollars, The only reason he came back.

[-Slap-]

WRONG. Watched the entire game because my football pool was depending on it.

I love how you mention the potential TD that was dropped, but what about the 3 potential INTs that Philly defenders dropped. Favre was lucky his stat line wasn't worse. He's a detriment to his team now and 3/4 of the world can see it.

Well, if you watched the whole game then your comments simply prove you don't know jack**** about football, or you're totally biased about his topic.

I guess the interception that popped right out of his receivers' hands shouldn't count based on your logic.

[Paladin]

I don't know if you were watching the game last night, but Brett Favre had twice as long to throw the ball compared to Jake Plummer. Favre had a pocket to throw the ball throughout the game. I guess that wasn't him running around or throwing off the back foot, eh? Looked to me like he was a bunch of loose change in the "pocket".

During his career, he has played behind some great offensive lines as well. One time he had three pro-bowlers starting for him. Riiiiiightttt!!!!! He had some good WRs, too, as I recall. How many of the 400 TDs were the result of good Reciever play versus Favre's famed accuracy? It seems to me that these lessor gods need a lot of help holding up their pedestals.

I personally think Favre scored a two on the wonderlic. He had all the physical tools you look for coming out of college, yet he was a second round draft pick? His physical tools have deteriorated a bit, don't you think?

But, of course, I bow to your superior knowledge if Favre and the game of Football. Not!

He should have retired.

[Popps]

Imagine someone on this board making this statement.

:rofl:

[Paladin]

You mean, if I have this correct, Plummer's interceptions were the same as "acts of desperation" in particularly difficult and trying situations? You mean he was trying to make a play? You mean it's okay if Favre throws a desperate pass and it goes awry and is interecepted? Because he is just trying to make a play?

What a clever thought!!!!

[Rock Chalk]

I mean really, the game was an egg by the fourth quarter. And once again the announcers bored everyone with endless reasons/explanations/excuses for Brett Favre. Why he stayed, what about Aaron Rogers. How he overcame personal tragedy. How the team is so YOUNG and Brett doesn't have a supporting cast. All his family tragedies outlined once again for your viewing enjoyment. How he's such a nice person. Blah, blah... :puff:

If you haven't heard all these topics before, raise your hand.

At some point when the game's a turkey, just pan the fans in the stands. At least their makeup was interesting. I liked the bald guy with the beard who was green down to his neck. He's probably all broken out this morning, though.


At some point, one would think you wouldnt even bother watching the tele when Farve is on.

If all you do is complain about his press conferences, or the fact that announcers have something to say about him, why the **** do you watch?

All I know is that whenever he is on TV, here you come running about how much it disgusts you that the announcers are talking about him, or how he is a diva for answering questions asked of him at press conferences.

You are either one of the most dimwitted individuals on the planet, or a glutton for punishment. I prefer the former, as I cant believe anyone is so sadistic that they would force themselves to watch someone they clearly hate so I will just chalk you up as a supreme dumbass and throw you on ignore with the rest of the dumbasses. I for one am more tired of your incessant bitching about Favre than I am tired of listening to the announcers slobber over him.

[Circle Orange]

I dunno Alec, I kind of have an image of you and Brett holding hands at the fifty yard line with flashbulbs going off...

Meanwhile, I sure don't have any control over game coverage. It doesn't mean everyone wants to hear the announcers say the same thing a hundred times. I change channels or turn down the volume, but who the hell wants to do it for a full quarter while those boobs ramble on?

[Beantown Bronco]

Well, if you watched the whole game then your comments simply prove you don't know jack**** about football, or you're totally biased about his topic.

I guess the interception that popped right out of his receivers' hands shouldn't count based on your logic.

Sure, I'm biased. Everyone is a little....objectivity is impossible, regardless of what people say.

Based off my logic, I'm saying we have to go one way or the other on this. Either you go by the stat line, which I originally tried to do (but then the whole ridiculous dropped passes thing came out); or you go by the film (which shows both dropped passes by the receivers and dropped INTs by the defenders). Either way, Favre comes out behind. The stat line (as has been the case more often than not for him the past few years) was terrible and the film was terrible (more dropped INTs than potential TD passes).

[Clockwork Orange]

People who actually watched the game or understand the sport might have noticed the adjustment Philly made at halftime. Their big strategic adjustment amounted to hucking the ball deep Ahmed Carroll's way for big completions and long PIs. The Packer offense didn't have a chance after that happened.

Oh please, you don't know what the hell you're talking abo....wait....hang on a sec.....

Packers | Struggles vs. long passes led to Carroll's demise
Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:41:36 -0700

Mike Spofford, of Packers.com, reports Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy was blunt in explaining the reason why the club released former first-round draft choice CB Ahmad Carroll earlier this week. "He struggles with the ball downfield," McCarthy said. "It's been a problem for him, and people will continue to challenge him until he stops it." Carroll was exposed during Week 4, giving up long pass plays to the Philadelphia Eagles.

[-Slap-]

Like I said, Ahmad Carroll lost that ballgame. Obviously the Packers agreed with me because they cut him yesterday. Hell, Carroll even says he blew the game in this article.

Burned Monday night, Carroll cut by Pack on Tuesday (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/10/03/bc.fbn.packers.carroll.ap/index.html)

Posted: Tuesday October 3, 2006 10:58PM

GREEN BAY (AP) -- The Green Bay Packers finally ran out of patience with Ahmad Carroll.

Less than 24 hours after what was apparently a final-straw performance, the Packers placed their 2004 first-round draft pick on waivers Tuesday afternoon, ending a 34-game career in Green Bay during which the team waited for Carroll to realize his potential.

He never did, and his up-and-down game in Monday night's 31-9 loss at Philadelphia sealed his fate.

General manager Ted Thompson, coach Mike McCarthy and the personnel and coaching staffs discussed the decision after returning to Green Bay, and Carroll was told of his release later Tuesday.

"Meeting with Ted and the personnel department and the coaches, we felt it was time to go in another direction," McCarthy said. "We wish Ahmad luck. On a personal level, it may be in his best interest for him to move on to another NFL venue."

McCarthy said rookie Jarrett Bush, claimed off waivers from Carolina after the final preseason cuts, and practice-squad cornerback Patrick Dendy will compete for Carroll's job as the nickel corner. Rookie fourth-round pick Will Blackmon, who missed all of training camp recovering from a broken foot, figures to join the competition once he's healthy.

Asked if Carroll's release sent a message to the rest of the team about his oft-discussed theme of accountability, McCarthy replied, "I think it's important that we all stay on the same page as to what is expected. Whether it's a message or however they want to perceive it, we have a vision of what this football team needs to look like, how they prepare and how they play. We're keeping our eye on the target as we move forward to make sure it looks that way."

After the game Monday night, Carroll took the blame for the loss, in which the Packers defense turned a 9-7 halftime lead into a blowout loss.

"I admit I (expletive) up and cost us the game," Carroll said. "I know what I'm accountable for and I know what I did wrong. I gave up the big plays. You look at the film, it's not one person did this, one person did that. I'm that person. I gave up the explosive gains, I gave up the big plays, I gave up the touchdown. That swung the momentum for the whole game."

In the first half Monday night, Carroll broke up three passes and registered his third career sack on Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb.

But in the second half, wide receiver Greg Lewis burned him deep for a 45-yard touchdown that gave the Eagles a 17-9 lead with 5:08 left in the third quarter. On the next series, Carroll was flagged for a 14-yard pass interference penalty. On the ensuing play, Lewis was left wide open for a 30-yard touchdown and a 24-9 Eagles lead.

In the fourth quarter, Reggie Brown beat Carroll deep for a 23-yard gain on a play that also saw Carroll get flagged for holding. That play led to the Eagles' final TD of the night, a 15-yard McNabb run.

"He struggles with the ball downfield. It's been a problem for him and people will continue to challenge him until he stops it," McCarthy said.

NOTES: McCarthy expected quarterback Brett Favre to be able to practice Wednesday after suffering minor shoulder and head injuries in Monday night's loss. Some of Favre's teammates, however, weren't quite so fortunate.

McCarthy said Tuesday that wide receiver Robert Ferguson (foot) and linebacker Abdul Hodge (knee) will be listed as doubtful for Sunday's game against St. Louis at Lambeau Field, while wide receiver Donald Driver (rib, hip), tight end Donald Lee (knee) and linebacker Ben Taylor (hamstring) will be listed as questionable.

Favre, who has started an NFL quarterback record 245 straight games including playoffs, will be listed as probable.

McCarthy indicated that Favre, who did not speak to reporters after Monday night's game but is set to address reporters Wednesday, may have suffered a slight concussion in addition to a stinger when he absorbed a hard hit from Eagles defensive lineman Juqua Thomas late in the game.

"I haven't personally seen him, but I think he'll be fine," McCarthy said.

[-Slap-]

Oh please, you don't know what the hell you're talking abo....wait....hang on a sec.....

Packers | Struggles vs. long passes led to Carroll's demise
Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:41:36 -0700

Mike Spofford, of Packers.com, reports Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy was blunt in explaining the reason why the club released former first-round draft choice CB Ahmad Carroll earlier this week. "He struggles with the ball downfield," McCarthy said. "It's been a problem for him, and people will continue to challenge him until he stops it." Carroll was exposed during Week 4, giving up long pass plays to the Philadelphia Eagles.

You beat me to it.......:)

[Beantown Bronco]

I just have a real fundamental problem blaming a single CB for a loss, when the offense couldn't even put up 10 pts. Exactly how many games do you expect to win when your offense can't put up 10 pts?

So they release a guy who sucks in deep coverage. You know what, he was #3 on their depth chart for a reason: he's better than the guy sitting at #4. As sad as this may be, they (in theory) just got even worse.

[Clockwork Orange]

Yes, I'm sure that the Packers were willing to release a guy they spent a 1st rounder on two years ago just to cover for Brett Favre.

Brilliant!

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/guinness_commercial.jpg

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Yes, I'm sure that the Packers were willing to release a guy they spent a 1st rounder on two years ago just to cover for Brett Favre.

Brilliant!

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/guinness_commercial.jpg

Some folk here believe only the Broncos have draft busts.

[watermock]

So Favre's 29 interceptions were Caroll's fault? He's on pace to throw 20 this year as well.

In the remaining 14 games this season, Favre has a chance to break one of the most glorious and one of the most dubious NFL passing records. With 399 career touchdown passes, Favre is 22 away from breaking Marino's touchdown record. With 258 interceptions, Favre is 20 away from surpassing Blanda's interception record.


It's possible Favre, who has thrown three touchdown passes and three interceptions this season, could take over both marks.

He is now within reach of Blanda, who played till 48 and often came in during desperate situations as a backup.

[-Slap-]

Yes, I'm sure that the Packers were willing to release a guy they spent a 1st rounder on two years ago just to cover for Brett Favre.

Brilliant!

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/guinness_commercial.jpg

And we've uncovered exactly how far the Favre bashers will go to try and blame the guy.

One losing season in 14 years as a starter. He's just killing that franchise alright.

[Beantown Bronco]

And we've uncovered exactly how far the Favre bashers will go to try and blame the guy.

One losing season in 14 years as a starter. He's just killing that franchise alright.

Bashing Favre and blaming him for the loss are two completley different things. Nobody here is blaming Favre alone for this loss, but some ARE solely blaming Carroll. Blaming a DB for a loss where the offense couldn't put up 10 pts just seems a little insane IMO.

Some packer stockholders may believe he's killing the franchise by hanging on too long and stunting the growth of their QB of the future. I'd be curious to hear what the stockholders think about this.....

[Pendejo]

And we've uncovered exactly how far the Favre bashers will go to try and blame the guy.

One losing season in 14 years as a starter. He's just killing that franchise alright.

I don't understand where these windbags get their hatred of Favre from. It seems that they hate the fact that he answers questions when people ask them.

If anyone looks at his stats they'll see that he has always thrown a pretty good amount of picks. The difference being that the Packers used to try and be competitive. Now they're going through the motions...with enormous cap space because they know those poor bastards in Green Bay will come out and watch even if Mock suits up a qb. The funniest part of the whole thing is the argument that Favre was holding the team hostage with his indecision about whether or not to retire. Meanwhile with all of the cap space they have...they did nothing to improve the team. They were 35 million under the cap as of 3/10/06, and what did they do...sign Charles Woodson?

Favre is worth every penny of his contract because he's who the people in Green Bay come out to see. Besides that...he's earned the right to take as long as he wants when deciding whether to hang 'em up or not. No one was holding a gun to Ted Thompson's head. If Favre's soul searching was a detriment to the team it was HIS responsibility to give Brett a deadline, or to announce that they were going in a different direction.

All of you potzer's that continually b!tch about Favre can cram it with walnuts.

[Dagmar]

I think Farve's publicists have gotten ahold of some members passwords!

Seriously, I dislike Farve probably for similar reasons I dislike TO, I get sick of hearing about them. On Monday night, if Madden had shut up about Farve for a second I wouldn't be pissed. Same with the constant coverage of the will I won't I retire. Same with TO, this week it'll be murder.

I would prefer they cover the whole NFL, not just a select few, but I believe that may be wishful thinking...

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

[QUOTE=Pendejo;1298442]

Favre is worth every penny of his contract because he's who the people in Green Bay come out to see. Besides that...he's earned the right to take as long as he wants when deciding whether to hang 'em up or not. QUOTE]

I have a boatload of in-laws in Wisconsin and he is still St. Brent to them.

[watermock]

[QUOTE=Pendejo;1298442]

Favre is worth every penny of his contract because he's who the people in Green Bay come out to see. Besides that...he's earned the right to take as long as he wants when deciding whether to hang 'em up or not. QUOTE]

I have a boatload of in-laws in Wisconsin and he is still St. Brent to them.

Says who? Green Bay sold out when they had a losing team...like...ummm...last year? What earns him the right to cash 800k checks each week while putting up 9 points? Packer fans were selling out the stadium long before Favre showed up, and will when he's gone. No player in the NFL "earns the right to suck salty balls" and take as long as he want to hang up the jockstrap. WTF are you talking about? You think we let Pryce milk a 9 million dolar contract this year?

Can you imagine the heat that Plummer would of gotten if he threw 29 interceptions last year? Jake threw 7 in the regualr season and was practically hanged. That's 1/4 of the picks Favre threw. I'm sonstantly amazed with the Favre apologists when he's just cashing in checks.

[Kaylore]

That was a weird game. Favre was playing well to a point, but he was doing so against the likes of the Lions secondary which right now is looking like one of the worst. I think Favre's mechanics have improved some since the coaching change, but his decision making hasn't. He throws into coverage too much and many of those interceptions are all Favre.

No, Ahmad Carroll didn't help his team. I haven't seen a performance that bad since Roc Alexander in the playoffs, and at least Roc wasn't getting penalized in addition to getting burned, and at least he can use being an undrafted rookie as an excuse as opposed to being a first round pick.

I think this thread is reflective of why Favre is so discussed. People seem to say he's either worse than he is or he's better than he is. Even with his poor mechanics and gunslinger style, he's still better than most of the QB's in the league. Favre defenders need to acknowledge the guy's game has declined and isn't a great recipe for this team as it is right now to win games.

Favre needs a solid defense to give him some mistake wiggle room and a go-to guy. I don't think he has those things and couple that with his team's entire offense and philosophy changing and it's not a situation that a QB will see success in right away. Tough situation, but he has been and is their Icon and so I suppose that gives him a pass in situations such as these.

Personally I think it's a non-story. I still don't get why Circle Orange and Gonzo are so obssesed with this guy. He's not even in the AFC.

[GonzoLays]

That was a weird game. Favre was playing well to a point, but he was doing so against the likes of the Lions secondary which right now is looking like one of the worst. I think Favre's mechanics have improved some since the coaching change, but his decision making hasn't. He throws into coverage too much and many of those interceptions are all Favre.

No, Ahmad Carroll didn't help his team. I haven't seen a performance that bad since Roc Alexander in the playoffs, and at least Roc wasn't getting penalized in addition to getting burned, and at least he can use being an undrafted rookie as an excuse as opposed to being a first round pick.

I think this thread is reflective of why Favre is so discussed. People seem to say he's either worse than he is or he's better than he is. Even with his poor mechanics and gunslinger style, he's still better than most of the QB's in the league. Favre defenders need to acknowledge the guy's game has declined and isn't a great recipe for this team as it is right now to win games.

Favre needs a solid defense to give him some mistake wiggle room and a go-to guy. I don't think he has those things and couple that with his team's entire offense and philosophy changing and it's not a situation that a QB will see success in right away. Tough situation, but he has been and is their Icon and so I suppose that gives him a pass in situations such as these.

Personally I think it's a non-story. I still don't get why Circle Orange and Gonzo are so obssesed with this guy. He's not even in the AFC.

Oh, that's rich. You write a six page soliloquy about Farve and then have the nerve to say that someone is obsessed with the guy.

So, is Slap obsessed with Favre since he slobber knocks him every time there is a dissenting opinion about the guy? Wait. You are afraid of Slap. Never mind.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

That was a weird game. Favre was playing well to a point, but he was doing so against the likes of the Lions secondary which right now is looking like one of the worst. I think Favre's mechanics have improved some since the coaching change, but his decision making hasn't. He throws into coverage too much and many of those interceptions are all Favre.

No, Ahmad Carroll didn't help his team. I haven't seen a performance that bad since Roc Alexander in the playoffs, and at least Roc wasn't getting penalized in addition to getting burned, and at least he can use being an undrafted rookie as an excuse as opposed to being a first round pick.

I think this thread is reflective of why Favre is so discussed. People seem to say he's either worse than he is or he's better than he is. Even with his poor mechanics and gunslinger style, he's still better than most of the QB's in the league. Favre defenders need to acknowledge the guy's game has declined and isn't a great recipe for this team as it is right now to win games.

Favre needs a solid defense to give him some mistake wiggle room and a go-to guy. I don't think he has those things and couple that with his team's entire offense and philosophy changing and it's not a situation that a QB will see success in right away. Tough situation, but he has been and is their Icon and so I suppose that gives him a pass in situations such as these.

Personally I think it's a non-story. I still don't get why Circle Orange and Gonzo are so obssesed with this guy. He's not even in the AFC.

Once again, the voice of reason speaks the truth.

[Kaylore]

Oh, that's rich. You write a six page soliloquy about Farve and then have the nerve to say that someone is obsessed with the guy.

So, is Slap obsessed with Favre since he slobber knocks him every time there is a dissenting opinion about the guy? Wait. You are afraid of Slap. Never mind.

Typical response from the board's racist tool box. Notice he never actually answered any questions or responded to any points.

[Pendejo]

Says who? Green Bay sold out when they had a losing team...like...ummm...last year? What earns him the right to cash 800k checks each week while putting up 9 points? Packer fans were selling out the stadium long before Favre showed up, and will when he's gone. No player in the NFL "earns the right to suck salty balls" and take as long as he want to hang up the jockstrap. WTF are you talking about? You think we let Pryce milk a 9 million dolar contract this year?

Can you imagine the heat that Plummer would of gotten if he threw 29 interceptions last year? Jake threw 7 in the regualr season and was practically hanged. That's 1/4 of the picks Favre threw. I'm sonstantly amazed with the Favre apologists when he's just cashing in checks.

Who would have expected such a brilliant post from the orangemane's own resident lackey.

First of all...great use of quotation marks. I don't think anyone on the 'mane said anything about when a player "earns the right to suck salty balls". That's yet another Drunkenmock'ism. Go ahead Mock...explain to me how ANY logic applies when dealing with Trevor "I'm a hip hop producer" Pryce vis a vis Brett Favre...one of the top ten quarterbacks of all time. You're a f***ing retard.

This isn't a Jake Plummer thread...but if Plummer had accomplished even remotely in his career what Favre has in his...then maybe you'd have a logical right to be "sonstantly" amazed by posters who take up for Favre.

Favre is an all time great. He may be the last of a dying breed...a la...quarterbacks with rocket arms who never think that they're beat, and can always make the throw. John Elway was another one of the type.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Since the cut and paste was butchered, please let me clarify my statement here as it appears in the quotes I said something I did not.

I said:

"I have a boatload of in-laws in Wisconsin and he is still St. Brent to them."

[Clockwork Orange]

Can you imagine the heat that Plummer would of gotten if he threw 29 interceptions last year?

Can you imagine the heat that the Broncos front office would have gotten if they had $35 million in cap space and the only player they came up with was Charles Woodson? Or the heat they'd get if that cap space was created because they chose not to pay the likes of Mike Wahle, Marco Rivera and Javon Walker?

Favre isn't the player he used to be, anyone can see that, but to place all the blame for the Packers ills on him while completely ignoring the bunglings of the Green Bay front office is ridiculous.

[watermock]

[QUOTE=watermock;1298609]

Who would have expected such a brilliant post from the orangemane's own resident lackey.

First of all...great use of quotation marks. I don't think anyone on the 'mane said anything about when a player "earns the right to suck salty balls". That's yet another Drunkenmock'ism. Go ahead Mock...explain to me how ANY logic applies when dealing with Trevor "I'm a hip hop producer" Pryce vis a vis Brett Favre...one of the top ten quarterbacks of all time. You're a ****ing retard.

This isn't a Jake Plummer thread...but if Plummer had accomplished even remotely in his career what Favre has in his...then maybe you'd have a logical right to be "sonstantly" amazed by posters who take up for Favre.

Favre is an all time great. He may be the last of a dying breed...a la...quarterbacks with rocket arms who never think that they're beat, and can always make the throw. John Elway was another one of the type.

The quotation marks were a reference to Chef on South Park.Do you think Shanahan gave a rats ass when he pulled Jerry Rice on the carpet to prompt his "retirement"?

If you want to defend Favre saying this was the best talent he has been around, when he has "sucked salty balls" for the last three years, throwing 57interceptions, be my guest. You don't know WTF your talking about.

Did you hear me moron...57 interceptions in the past 3 years? He's 20 picks from breaking George Blanda's all time record.

That's not even counting his pace to throw 20 more this year.

[GonzoLays]

Can you imagine the heat that the Broncos front office would have gotten if they had $35 million in cap space and the only player they came up with was Charles Woodson? Or the heat they'd get if that cap space was created because they chose not to pay the likes of Mike Wahle, Marco Rivera and Javon Walker?

Favre isn't the player he used to be, anyone can see that, but to place all the blame for the Packers ills on him while completely ignoring the bunglings of the Green Bay front office is ridiculous.

What is this 35 million you speak of? The latest report has Green Bay 7 million under the cap. Right now, the Patriots have more cap space than the Packers.

If you have a million and one excuses for Brett Favre, what is Tom Brady's excuse? Obviously, any management team that does not go over the cap is preventing their team from winning. Correct?

[Clockwork Orange]

What is this 35 million you speak of? The latest report has Green Bay 7 million under the cap. Right now, the Patriots have more cap space than the Packers.

If you have a million and one excuses for Brett Favre, what is Tom Brady's excuse? Obviously, any management team that does not go over the cap is preventing their team from winning. Correct?

What report? During the offseason it was widely known that the Packers had more cap space than every team in the league but Arizona. They brought in the likes of Lavar Arrington & Adam Vinatieri for visits, but managed to only end up with Charles Woodson (who practically no one else wanted). Funny how they didn't feel the need to make any moves on offense despite the fact that they traded Walker and Ahman Green was coming off of major knee surgery. Nah, they decide to start rookies on the O-line and at receiver instead. I'm sure that's all Brett Favre's fault too. ::)

I'm not making excuses for Favre's poor play, though I'm sure that's the way you've chosen to misinterpret it. I'm pointing out that the Packers front office has humped the bunk, thus all that ails the Packers doesn't fall on Favre's shoulders. Pretty weak attempt at deflection by bringing Brady into this, but I'm sure it makes perfect sense to you somehow.

[GonzoLays]

What report? During the offseason it was widely known that the Packers had more cap space than every team in the league but Arizona. They brought in the likes of Lavar Arrington & Adam Vinatieri for visits, but managed to only end up with Charles Woodson (who practically no one else wanted). Funny how they didn't feel the need to make any moves on offense despite the fact that they traded Walker and Ahman Green was coming off of major knee surgery. Nah, they decide to start rookies on the O-line and at receiver instead. I'm sure that's all Brett Favre's fault too. ::)



Read the Milwaukee Journal. They reported just today how much cap space Green Bay because of the Ahmad Carrol release.

[Clockwork Orange]

Read the Milwaukee Journal. They reported just today how much cap space Green Bay because of the Ahmad Carrol release.

Then every offseason report that was released was wrong because they had the Packers somewhere between the Cardinals and Browns as far as teams with the most cap space.

[GonzoLays]

Then every offseason report that was released was wrong because they had the Packers somewhere between the Cardinals and Browns as far as teams with the most cap space.

Even the Sunday night crew of John Madden and Al Michaels reported that the New England Patroits had the most cap room of any team in the league.

Look at the Patriots, who are they paying? WR's? Nope. Te's? Nope, still on their rookie contracts. OL? Nope, and ahem, they start a rookie at RT. On defense, only Seymour, Brushci, and Colvin are making substantial money. Everybody else is either on their rookie contract i.e Sameuls, Hobbs, Wilson, Wilfolk and Warren or making a decent amount like Harrison.

I guess every single report you read this offseason was incorrect then.

[Clockwork Orange]

Actually, I was wrong, according to John Clayton on March 10th, the Packers actually had more cap space than any team in the NFL.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Green Bay Packers $35 million
Minnesota Vikings $30.9 million
Arizona Cardinals $28.9 million
Cleveland Browns $27.1 million
Philadelphia Eagles $26.1 million
San Diego Chargers $24.6 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $23.4 million
Dallas Cowboys $22.6 million
St. Louis Rams $22.1 million
New Orleans Saints $20.2 million
San Francisco 49ers $20.2 million
Detroit Lions $17.7 million
Seattle Seahawks $17.3 million
New England Patriots $16.9 million
Cincinnati Bengals $16.6 million
Chicago Bears $14.9 million
Buffalo Bills $14.1 million
New York Jets $14 million
Houston Texans $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $12.2 million
Denver Broncos $10.9 million
Baltimore Ravens $10.6 million
Carolina Panthers $10.4 million
New York Giants $9.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $7.3 million
Miami Dolphins $6.3 million
Tennessee Titans $6.2 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $6.1 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $5.1 million
Oakland Raiders $653,000

I know they didn't spend $28 million on Charles Woodson and their draft picks.

[GonzoLays]

Actually, I was wrong, according to John Clayton on March 10th, the Packers actually had more cap space than any team in the NFL.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Green Bay Packers $35 million
Minnesota Vikings $30.9 million
Arizona Cardinals $28.9 million
Cleveland Browns $27.1 million
Philadelphia Eagles $26.1 million
San Diego Chargers $24.6 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $23.4 million
Dallas Cowboys $22.6 million
St. Louis Rams $22.1 million
New Orleans Saints $20.2 million
San Francisco 49ers $20.2 million
Detroit Lions $17.7 million
Seattle Seahawks $17.3 million
New England Patriots $16.9 million
Cincinnati Bengals $16.6 million
Chicago Bears $14.9 million
Buffalo Bills $14.1 million
New York Jets $14 million
Houston Texans $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $12.2 million
Denver Broncos $10.9 million
Baltimore Ravens $10.6 million
Carolina Panthers $10.4 million
New York Giants $9.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $7.3 million
Miami Dolphins $6.3 million
Tennessee Titans $6.2 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $6.1 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $5.1 million
Oakland Raiders $653,000

I know they didn't spend $28 million on Charles Woodson and their draft picks.

What, John Clayton knows more about the Packers then their very own beat writer? Please.

Who you going to believe, a guy who knows the players, coaches, and management of the Packers on a first name basis or a guy who spreads he "contacts" thin among the 30 or so odd teams?

Once again, the Packers are only 7 million under the cap this year.


I guess Brady and the Patriots should be terrible this season because they have so much cap space. When Brady throws an interception, it will be Ellis Hobb's fault because he gave up a TD.

[Spider]

Damn I miss Griese ......... at least we faught over a Bronco player , who gives a rats ass what Farve does ?

[Pendejo]

The quotation marks were a reference to Chef on South Park.Do you think Shanahan gave a rats ass when he pulled Jerry Rice on the carpet to prompt his "retirement"?

If you want to defend Favre saying this was the best talent he has been around, when he has "sucked salty balls" for the last three years, throwing 57interceptions, be my guest. You don't know WTF your talking about.

Did you hear me moron...57 interceptions in the past 3 years? He's 20 picks from breaking George Blanda's all time record.

That's not even counting his pace to throw 20 more this year.


I should have realized that you were quoting cartoons. Hell you've started threads under the pretense of football topics...just so you could link to bugs bunny. Felcher.

Favre's record on the field speaks for itself...as does what the Packers organization has done...a la...rest on Favres laurels.

Interesting that you brought up George Blanda...because five years after he retires Favre is going to join him in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Tell us again how mock is a blowhard. Then STFU.

[ludo21]

What, John Clayton knows more about the Packers then their very own beat writer? Please.

Who you going to believe, a guy who knows the players, coaches, and management of the Packers on a first name basis or a guy who spreads he "contacts" thin among the 30 or so odd teams?

Once again, the Packers are only 7 million under the cap this year.


I guess Brady and the Patriots should be terrible this season because they have so much cap space. When Brady throws an interception, it will be Ellis Hobb's fault because he gave up a TD.



Did ya miss the March 10th thing or do you only see what you want??

[Pendejo]

Did ya miss the March 10th thing or do you only see what you want??

You clearly don't understand the new Gonzolays damn the facts math...

[Clockwork Orange]

What, John Clayton knows more about the Packers then their very own beat writer? Please.

Who you going to believe, a guy who knows the players, coaches, and management of the Packers on a first name basis or a guy who spreads he "contacts" thin among the 30 or so odd teams?

Once again, the Packers are only 7 million under the cap this year.


I guess Brady and the Patriots should be terrible this season because they have so much cap space. When Brady throws an interception, it will be Ellis Hobb's fault because he gave up a TD.

That's it? That's all you've got? Trying to discredit John Clayton and pumping up some local beat writer? I don't know if you've actually been paying attention, but if you had, you'd have seen how the Broncos local beat writers regularly contradict each other on the Broncos cap status. But yeah, local beat writers are the alpha and omega when it comes to salary cap matters. Whatever you want to believe.

I'll say again, it was reported by someone whose job it is to know these things that the Packers had more cap space than any team in the NFL. The Packers certainly paraded big name players through their complex as if they had money to burn, yet they couldn't or wouldn't close the deal on any of them but Woodson. Why don't you just do what you usually do and look for a way to blame Favre for that, damn the facts.

Why you keep talking about Brady and the Pats is a mystery to everyone but you, seeing as they have absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. I guess when you're running low on ammo, it's time to change the subject.

Speaking of which, tell us again how the Broncos should have signed Koren Robinson. :laugh:

[loborugger]

Actually, I was wrong, according to John Clayton on March 10th, the Packers actually had more cap space than any team in the NFL.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Green Bay Packers $35 million
Minnesota Vikings $30.9 million
Arizona Cardinals $28.9 million
Cleveland Browns $27.1 million
Philadelphia Eagles $26.1 million
San Diego Chargers $24.6 million
Jacksonville Jaguars $23.4 million
Dallas Cowboys $22.6 million
St. Louis Rams $22.1 million
New Orleans Saints $20.2 million
San Francisco 49ers $20.2 million
Detroit Lions $17.7 million
Seattle Seahawks $17.3 million
New England Patriots $16.9 million
Cincinnati Bengals $16.6 million
Chicago Bears $14.9 million
Buffalo Bills $14.1 million
New York Jets $14 million
Houston Texans $12.7 million
Atlanta Falcons $12.2 million
Denver Broncos $10.9 million
Baltimore Ravens $10.6 million
Carolina Panthers $10.4 million
New York Giants $9.9 million
Kansas City Chiefs $7.3 million
Miami Dolphins $6.3 million
Tennessee Titans $6.2 million
Pittsburgh Steelers $6.1 million
Tampa Bay Buccaneers $5.1 million
Oakland Raiders $653,000

I know they didn't spend $28 million on Charles Woodson and their draft picks.


Sidenote - you are telling me that the Raiders are not only quite possibly the worst team in the league, but they are paying 5 mill more for that crap than anyone else. That is comical. If you made that stuff up, people wouldnt buy it.

[Arkie]

I don't understand where these windbags get their hatred of Favre from. It seems that they hate the fact that he answers questions when people ask them.

If anyone looks at his stats they'll see that he has always thrown a pretty good amount of picks. The difference being that the Packers used to try and be competitive. Now they're going through the motions...with enormous cap space because they know those poor bastards in Green Bay will come out and watch even if Mock suits up a qb. The funniest part of the whole thing is the argument that Favre was holding the team hostage with his indecision about whether or not to retire. Meanwhile with all of the cap space they have...they did nothing to improve the team. They were 35 million under the cap as of 3/10/06, and what did they do...sign Charles Woodson?

Favre is worth every penny of his contract because he's who the people in Green Bay come out to see. Besides that...he's earned the right to take as long as he wants when deciding whether to hang 'em up or not. No one was holding a gun to Ted Thompson's head. If Favre's soul searching was a detriment to the team it was HIS responsibility to give Brett a deadline, or to announce that they were going in a different direction.

All of you potzer's that continually b!tch about Favre can cram it with walnuts.

You have a point because if you look at the TV distribution maps, the Packers always get the coverage in Mississippi.

[-Slap-]

Sidenote - you are telling me that the Raiders are not only quite possibly the worst team in the league, but they are paying 5 mill more for that crap than anyone else. That is comical. If you made that stuff up, people wouldnt buy it.

Oh man, how frigging hilarious.

[Popps]

Damn I miss Griese ......... at least we faught over a Bronco player , who gives a rats ass what Farve does ?

There's a small but vocal league of posters who run around here b****ing about Favre 24/7. I know it's the internet and people have to bash everyone who's done anything, but hating Favre seems sort of a stretch. I can only think of like 400 players in the NFL more worthy.

Meanwhile, you've got a lot of the same people praising "House" Carswell, Mr. Domestic violence, himself.

Beyond that, like you said... who flippin' cares. Why is Favre even relevant to people on this board anymore?

Starting threads when the guy throws an INT, gloating over his failure?

Alas, it is the internet.

[DeuceOfClub]

Packers QB Favre plans to play despite pinched nerve (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2612849)
Associated Press

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Andy Reid figured something must have been wrong if old pal Brett Favre didn't say hello to him on the field after their game Monday night.

So the Philadelphia Eagles coach called Favre on Tuesday to make sure he was OK.

"I said, 'Yeah, one of your guys cheap-shotted me,' which is not true," Favre said. "But he said, 'Yeah, he hit you pretty good."'

Favre is still feeling the effects of the pinched nerve and possible slight concussion he sustained after he was hit hard in the Green Bay Packers' loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. Favre sat out most of practice Wednesday, but figures he'll be able to play against the St. Louis Rams on Sunday.

"A little sore, but I'll be fine," said Favre, who has started an NFL quarterback record 245 straight games, including the playoffs.

Favre left the game after taking a hard hit from Eagles defensive lineman Juqua Thomas. He doesn't remember much about the play.

......


Forget about our record or our future.

"Long Live the Streak."

[watermock]

He's thrown 57 interceptions in three years and counting. And he sure ia carrying the team at this point. Good Grief. He's on pace to have 75 interceptions in 4 years. Buy a vowel.

I don't know the Green Bay salary cap situation...I know they pay Favre a ton. He's completing 55% of his passes and has 6 TD's vs. 5 INT's, and they have a 1-3 record, and it's in a crap division.

[Circle Orange]

That was a weird game. Favre was playing well to a point, but he was doing so against the likes of the Lions secondary which right now is looking like one of the worst. I think Favre's mechanics have improved some since the coaching change, but his decision making hasn't. He throws into coverage too much and many of those interceptions are all Favre.

No, Ahmad Carroll didn't help his team. I haven't seen a performance that bad since Roc Alexander in the playoffs, and at least Roc wasn't getting penalized in addition to getting burned, and at least he can use being an undrafted rookie as an excuse as opposed to being a first round pick.

I think this thread is reflective of why Favre is so discussed. People seem to say he's either worse than he is or he's better than he is. Even with his poor mechanics and gunslinger style, he's still better than most of the QB's in the league. Favre defenders need to acknowledge the guy's game has declined and isn't a great recipe for this team as it is right now to win games.

Favre needs a solid defense to give him some mistake wiggle room and a go-to guy. I don't think he has those things and couple that with his team's entire offense and philosophy changing and it's not a situation that a QB will see success in right away. Tough situation, but he has been and is their Icon and so I suppose that gives him a pass in situations such as these.

Personally I think it's a non-story. I still don't get why Circle Orange and Gonzo are so obssesed with this guy. He's not even in the AFC.

Not me. It's just that the announcers can't get over the guy...I can't control what they say. Doesn't mean I want to hear the same things a bazillion times.

Besides, I requested nude pics from Brett and he turned me down. !Booya!

And while it's all well and good to say let him play as long as he wants, we DON'T need to see him stumbling around out there in his 40s. Packer fans may want to see it, but I sure as hell don't. :o

[Rock Chalk]

Not me. It's just that the announcers can't get over the guy...I can't control what they say. Doesn't mean I want to hear the same things a bazillion times.

Besides, I requested nude pics from Brett and he turned me down. !Booya!

And while it's all well and good to say let him play as long as he wants, we DON'T need to see him stumbling around out there in his 40s. Packer fans may want to see it, but I sure as hell don't. :o

Dont watch then. Pretty simple retard.

[Circle Orange]

No one tells me what to do. And I'm still waiting for those skin shots of you, Alec...you disappoint me.