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Rascal
09-28-2006, 02:36 PM
Apparently Turley's back is already bothering him. I figured it would take till week 10 for it to start bothering him, looks like I gave him to much credit.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/s...fs/15625073.htm

More worries at tackle

Turley’s sore back is not good news for a Chiefs team that is already hurting at that important position.
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

As shaky as their pass blocking has been, the last thing the Chiefs wanted to see was left tackle Kyle Turley riding a stationary bike on the edge of the practice field instead of working with his teammates.

But that’s exactly what Turley was doing Wednesday. He also was a spectator at Monday’s practice. The Chiefs did not practice Tuesday, normally the players’ day off.

The Chiefs listed Turley on the NFL injury report as likely to play in Sunday’s game against San Francisco at Arrowhead Stadium.

They listed right tackle Kevin Sampson the same way early in the week of the season opener against Cincinnati, and Sampson didn’t play until the next week against Denver.

If Turley’s problem was anything but soreness in his back, his absence might not be so troubling to the Chiefs. But he returned to football only this season after missing the last two because of back troubles, so there’s no way to misinterpret this as good news.

Turley said the soreness was beyond anything he’s experienced since he signed with the Chiefs in the spring.

“I’m concerned,” Turley said. “A back injury is not something to fool around with. It’s definitely cause for concern.

“We’ll see. I’m supposed to meet with more doctors, and we’ll find out what’s happening. I’m just trying to wait it out.”

Coach Herm Edwards was slightly more upbeat.

“He’s gone through a lot,” Edwards said. “He hasn’t missed a lot of days since he got here. He went through all of training camp for the most part. You can anticipate there’s going to be some stiffness at times with a guy like that after all he’s gone through.”

Jordan Black, who struggled at times as the left tackle last season — and again at right tackle in Sampson’s place against Cincinnati — would be the likely starter if Turley can’t play.

Black would face two of San Francisco’s best pass rushers in end Marques Douglas and outside linebacker Manny Lawson, a rookie who had two sacks in a recent game against St. Louis.

Black has been frustrated that he’s been moved from position to position since the start of training camp. He’s played every line position except center.

This week, though, he’s been nothing but a left tackle.

“One week to prepare at one position is all I can ask for,” he said. “It’s terrific.”

Offensive-line changes were once rare for the Chiefs, who not long ago started the same five players at the same five positions for 32 straight games. If Turley doesn’t play against the 49ers, they would use their third different line in three games.

“It’s just something we’re getting used to by now,” guard Brian Waters said.

Waters, as the left guard, would be the lineman most affected by Turley’s loss. But Waters started six games last year next to Black, who was filling in for the injured Willie Roaf.

“I’m really vocal as far as making calls,” Waters said. “I try to make things easy for those guys by being that way. We’ll be on the same page. It’s not an issue for me.”

The loss of Turley would be a huge blow to an offensive line still trying to find itself after the retirements of Roaf and John Welbourn, last year’s starters.

Against Cincinnati, the Chiefs gave up seven sacks and lost quarterback Trent Green because of a concussion. They then used a shorter, quicker passing game with Green’s replacement, Damon Huard, against the Broncos.

The Chiefs were cautiously hopeful they could provide Huard with more time against the 49ers and get more big passes. If Turley doesn’t play, they might have to scrap those plans.

The Chiefs’ only option to Black is Will Svitek, a college defensive lineman they drafted last year in the sixth round. They moved him to offensive line and were encouraged by his play this year in NFL Europe.

They still believe Svitek will become a competent offensive tackle and an eventual starter, but that day has apparently not come yet.

“He’s got a lot of talent,” Edwards said. “He doesn’t have the experience of playing there as much as Jordan because he hasn’t lined up there enough. He was a defensive lineman when he got here. Experience is what he’s lacking.

“It’s kind of unfair to him because we’ve had him on the left and on the right, and that’s (difficult). He’s had to learn both of those positions. That’s his job, to be prepared to play either side.”

Taco John
09-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Who didn't see that coming from a lightyear away? I'm suprised with all the weight he lost, anybody would be willing to let him even try to play the most abusive offensive line spot on the roster.

That Carl Peterson is a bright one!

Mile High Shack
09-28-2006, 02:45 PM
I seriously can not believe some chief fans were ok with him at even RIGHT tackle, let alone left tackle

mor-ans

Orange_Beard
09-28-2006, 02:48 PM
and Trent Green has a head ache.

Hotrod
09-28-2006, 02:50 PM
Bwahahahahaha they are screwed

Billy Clyde Puckett
09-28-2006, 03:21 PM
Squaws should give Art Shell a call. He is probably still a better option than Turley and doesn't appear to be very happy in his current situation.

Taco John
09-28-2006, 03:25 PM
I'm seriously going to cry the day Carl Peterson is fired or steps down...

WABronco
09-28-2006, 04:01 PM
Jordan Black=nuked

Clockwork Orange
09-28-2006, 04:02 PM
Wasn't Turley originally brought in to play TE?

TXBRONC
09-28-2006, 04:07 PM
I seriously can not believe some chief fans were ok with him at even RIGHT tackle, let alone left tackle

mor-ans

In once sense I don't blame them because what else were they going to do. Both of their starting OT's retired which left them scrambling. As a fan you hope for the best.

Hotrod
09-28-2006, 04:09 PM
Ha! I see you lurking bobo....

Good luck with Black

Clockwork Orange
09-28-2006, 04:15 PM
Good luck with Black

You know what they say. Once you go Black, they kill your quarterback. ;D

cutthemdown
09-28-2006, 04:16 PM
Who didn't see that coming from a lightyear away? I'm suprised with all the weight he lost, anybody would be willing to let him even try to play the most abusive offensive line spot on the roster.

That Carl Peterson is a bright one!

i agree this is no suprise, but LT is not the most abusive position on the line. By far the interior guys get beat on more by bigger players.

Master___Pain
09-28-2006, 04:17 PM
Kind of surprised that no Squaw fans have chimed in yet. Actually, I am fine that they have not chimed in. It's been great around here without their incoherent ramblings.

Rock Chalk
09-28-2006, 04:17 PM
Hijack:

Astros up 3-0 on Pirates going for their 9th straight. Just gotta hope the panty waste Cards drop 2 more games before the season's up and the Astros will have made the most improbably comeback in MLB history.

Hotrod
09-28-2006, 04:27 PM
You know what they say. Once you go Black, they kill your quarterback. ;D

LOL I bet Green is just dying to get back on the field this year.

Tom A Hawk
09-28-2006, 04:38 PM
I'm seriously going to cry the day Carl Peterson is fired or steps down...

your saddest and my happiest....

Master___Pain
09-28-2006, 04:40 PM
Hijack:

Astros up 3-0 on Pirates going for their 9th straight. Just gotta hope the panty waste Cards drop 2 more games before the season's up and the Astros will have made the most improbably comeback in MLB history.

It would have to be one of the biggest chokejob/comebacks in history.

Rock Chalk
09-28-2006, 04:43 PM
It would have to be one of the biggest chokejob/comebacks in history.

**** the Cards!

Clockwork Orange
09-28-2006, 05:04 PM
LOL I bet Green is just dying to get back on the field this year.

Speaking of which, it looks like he's going to miss at least the next two games.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/KC/9692232

SouthStndJunkie
09-28-2006, 05:12 PM
My back will be fine!

crazyhorse
09-29-2006, 07:03 AM
You know what they say. Once you go Black, they kill your quarterback. ;D

That's funny as hell.


Well......kinda.

Kaylore
09-29-2006, 07:14 AM
I'm seriously going to cry the day Carl Peterson is fired or steps down...

Carl Peterson, Al Davis, and Marty Schottenheimer should be put in the ring of fame. I could see Green retiring this year. Shields is gone for sure next year and the last thing he wants to do is risk his health behind that sieve.

Chiefs will fade into nothingness as they once again struggle to find a QB for another decade. :wave:

fatcard
09-29-2006, 07:28 AM
perhaps they could get the first pick in the draft....Brady Quinn? There not that bad though... right? :)

fontaine
09-29-2006, 07:33 AM
I feel bad for Turley because back problems can be a major B*tch and seriously downgrade the quality of your life.

But at the same time, I can't help but laugh at the sheer stupidity of Carl Peterson and Worm Average. I mean come on, you bring in Turley at LT and you're backup is some green Defensive lineman who looked good in NFL Europe playing OT for the first time?

Florida_Bronco
09-29-2006, 07:33 AM
Carl Peterson, Al Davis, and Marty Schottenheimer should be put in the ring of fame. I could see Green retiring this year. Shields is gone for sure next year and the last thing he wants to do is risk his health behind that sieve.

Chiefs will fade into nothingness as they once again struggle to find a QB for another decade. :wave:

Yeah, from the time Montana retired until they had Trent Green, they pretty much had a revolving door at quarterback.

crazyhorse
09-29-2006, 08:18 AM
Yeah, from the time Montana retired until they had Trent Green, they pretty much had a revolving door at quarterback.

This statement is inaccurate.

broncosteven
09-29-2006, 09:55 AM
This statement is inaccurate.

You are correct Crazy Legs, I cannot wait for Carl to dust off the hot line to the 49ers though:

"Hi 49ers? This is Carl. Why are you laughing? Hey you guys got any more busts or hasbeens at QB that you can unload to me, come on guys I am trying to do serious business here stop laughing at me."

Notable 49er has-been QB's

Jane Moontana
Sonny Bono (I.Q. of a caveman)
Elvis Grbac

Did you guys ever get Jim DrunkenMiller? Or did he end up getting busted before Hot Carl could pull that deal off?

loborugger
09-29-2006, 10:12 AM
This statement is inaccurate.

Well maybe you would care to make it accurate then... I seem to remember an endless line of 49er castoffs that played for a year or 2 and moved on. The only one I seem to remember having the credentials of an NFL starter was Grbackup, but he left for B-more and sucked out loud. Sharpe made him cry and he faded away. So, I guess you could say his credentials were fake.

broncosteven
09-29-2006, 10:19 AM
So are the Ceefs working out Green or anyone else in the event Turdly goes down for any lenght of time?

fido
09-29-2006, 10:51 AM
he needs a haircut, that's all

TXBRONC
09-29-2006, 11:06 AM
Carl Peterson, Al Davis, and Marty Schottenheimer should be put in the ring of fame. I could see Green retiring this year. Shields is gone for sure next year and the last thing he wants to do is risk his health behind that sieve.

Chiefs will fade into nothingness as they once again struggle to find a QB for another decade. :wave:


This reminds me that when we played the Chiefs two weeks ago it commented that the Edwards would be trying to make the defense the strength of the team like it was during the Schottenheirmer era.

Kaylore
09-30-2006, 12:40 AM
I just realized that I might realize my dream of seeing this man start at tackle!
:D

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/players/jordan_black.jpg

Paladin
09-30-2006, 12:53 AM
Wowza.

Florida_Bronco
09-30-2006, 07:43 AM
I just realized that I might realize my dream of seeing this man start at tackle!
:D

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/players/jordan_black.jpg

I-65!!

Kaylore
09-30-2006, 09:43 PM
I-65!!

http://gatesofmynde.aequarion.com/misc/images/entry02.jpg

watermock
09-30-2006, 09:54 PM
http://gatesofmynde.aequarion.com/misc/images/entry02.jpg
The revolving exit door at Oakland headquarters. Check out your card with the doorman.

Florida_Bronco
10-01-2006, 07:20 AM
Kaylore and Mock, all I see are Red X's

WoodMan
10-01-2006, 07:48 AM
So how is Larry Johnson doing with his 2k gaurantee?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

crazyhorse
10-01-2006, 08:19 AM
So how is Larry Johnson doing with his 2k gaurantee?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

Link?

When did LJ guarantee 2000 yards?

Rascal
10-01-2006, 10:55 AM
Black is starting at LT according to Chief pregame reports.

Dunn is expected to play a lot on his side to help out, so they will be using a lot of 2 TE sets.

M Bennett is also out for this game.