TO taken to emergency room (suicide attempt?)

[SoCalBronco]

Just saw it on ESPNNEWS.

The Docs were "trying to induce vomitting".

[DBroncos4life]

i guess there trying to get his foot out of his mouth.



Really I hope that hes ok.

[Bronx33]

Probably choking on his ego again.

[doof]

Just saw it on ESPNNEWS.

The Docs were "trying to induce vomitting".

They should just show him one of his interviews.

All kidding aside I hope he's ok.

[SportinOne]

Maybe he over did his pain medication... probably just a cry for help.

[Mtbrncofn]

Geez, that's a bummer. There goes my #1 receiver in Geek again.

[Bronx33]

Reading he might be having had an adverse reaction to medication that he is taking following last week's surgery.

[Bronx33]

http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_270001833.html

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Someone call Rod Stewart to ask how he dealt with this...

[Bronx33]

Someone call Rod Stewart to ask how he dealt with this...

It was in his contract if he were to be kicked off more than one team he would have to blow his agent (guess he had to pay up) his agent was quote as saying (next question)

[-Slap-]

He hadn't heard his name on ESPN for almost six hours and he decided he needed to do something drastic.

http://www.costlessvitamin.com/catalog/images/Castor%20Oil.jpg

[Orange_Beard]

He realized, for the first time just how much of a asshole he is.....

[Orange_Beard]

Really I hope he is OK, what the hell else is the earth going to revolve around.

[Mtbrncofn]

I REALLy hope he's ok too. I already had to lose last weekend without him. They said there was a chance he was gonna play this weekend.

Think of all the FF owners that took a chance on your ass that you're disappointing, TO!

[Mtbrncofn]

He hadn't heard his name on ESPN for almost six hours and he decided he needed to do something drastic.

http://www.costlessvitamin.com/catalog/images/Castor%20Oil.jpg

In my unfortunate experience with the above pictured horror, it certainly wasn't vomit inducing, nor did you need to induce it. It induced everything out.....the other end. :) He must be on a constant diet of the stuff. He always has verbal diarrhea.

[watermock]

Bad reaction to medicine. He's a tool, but you need a baseline to work from.

[baja]

Finally TO did puke...


http://static.flickr.com/4/4972324_fc8727d2b9_m.jpg

[Dagmar]

I'm not gonna wish ill health on a guy because he happens to be arrogant. I hope he is ok.

[watermock]

I'm not gonna wish ill health on a guy because he happens to be arrogant. I hope he is ok.

T.O passed the Deion Sanders threshold last year. It's time he got a little humility tho.

"I AM an ANALiST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO..."

[Dagmar]

T.O passeed the Deion Sanders threshold last year. It's time he got a little humility tho.

"I AM an ANALiST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO..."

Did he passeed the threshold for you mock? Lets make sure he's hurt so he gets humility! Do you learn humility when you wake up in a pool of your own everclear vomit and realise you are banned because of racist jibes?

:oyvey:

[DomCasual]

I am a cynical bastard by nature, but something doesn't seem right here. Maybe he started on a new medication today? Why would his medication all of a sudden cause an adverse reaction when he should have been taking it since early last week?

I can't imagine he has a drug problem since he must be tested by the league for it fairly regularly. But something seems funny.

[DomCasual]

Mock donating his lunch

Ew. I could have gone without that image being etched into my brain.

[Crushaholic]

Get well soon, TO. You're still a turd, though...

[Northman]

He hadn't heard his name on ESPN for almost six hours and he decided he needed to do something drastic.

http://www.costlessvitamin.com/catalog/images/Castor%20Oil.jpg



Right on the money. He didnt hear his name mentioned enough.

[watermock]

this keyboard is malfunctioning.

[Florida_Bronco]

Maybe they can slip him in for a CAT Scan and see what his major malfunction is.

[DarkHorse30]

sounds like a 'roid problem.....maybe hemi's, maybe steri's

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

According to DPD, it was an attempted suicide.

No one likes a quitter, T.O.

[Mile High Shack]

I guess he realized just how bad Rosenscum tastes when he takes him in his mouth

[55CrushEm]

According to DPD, it was an attempted suicide.


Yep.....

http://www.wfaa.com/

[gadlaw]

God I hate Owens, but an attempted suicide attempt? Man, dude needs some real help, obviously he is a messed up human being with a desperate need to be loved but no earthly human ability to understand how to act as a human being. Psych referal please, paging Mr. Owens.

[MechanicalBull]

That's pretty shocking if the whole story turns out to be true about the attempted suicide. Mike and Mike in the morning were just talking about it and read the article.

[bronco militia]

doh, I guess he really did choke on his ego..

[gadlaw]

I'm hearing it on NFL Sirius, it seems pretty definite now. They just blurped it on CNN and like you said, Mike and Mike, various news places on the web. Pretty shocking.

[Merlin]

He must be bipolar; that would explain a lot of his behaviour in the past few yrs. especially if it is not being managed by medication.

[watermock]

Jeeze T.O.

Why did he have a bunch of barbituates for a simple finger fracture?

It's time to back off the guy and let him get help. I never thought I would feel sorry for that guy but dayum.

What amazes me is he has taken the me against the world stance constantly. Maybe Rod Smith can talk some sense into him.

I just heard he took 35 pills at once.

[DarkHorse]

Wow - yeah CBS is now reporting the suicide attempt.

[gadlaw]

He must be bipolar; that would explain a lot of his behaviour in the past few yrs. especially if it is not being managed by medication.

You know, just as I reupdated this page a guy from Philly called in to the morning NFL show on Sirius and said that he's got family members who are bipolar and he always thought that the behaviour of Owens was such that he was likely bipolar. Good call on that. And it would certainly begin to explain TO.

[Nuggets4]

As much as I dislike him, I hope he gets the help he needs. Scary stuff. Just remember TO, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Unless you're Buddhist. And then it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Terrell Owens reportedly tried suicide

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Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Terrell Owens stands on the sideline during a pre-season game against the Minnesota Vikings in Irving, Texas, in this Aug. 31, 2006 file photo. Owens was taken to the emergency room at Baylor Medical Center for an undisclosed reason Tuesday night, Sept. 26, 2006 and doctors treating him were trying to induce vomiting, according to a television report. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum, File)
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The report, obtained by WFAA television, says Owens last night ingested an unknown large quantity of prescription pain medication.
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Owens had surgery the following day.
Initial reports indicated Owens was hospitalized last night after a reaction to pain medication.
The player's publicist didn't immediately return calls for comment.
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[Rascal]

Wow.

[BigPlayShay]

Very sad news if it was an attempted suicide. I am not stunned though. Someone with his personality, with so much "confidence" you can kind od see right through it. Comes off as very confident, but you can tell he has very low self esteem. Also, the victims of his outbursts, McNaab, Garcia, are guys that are confident and comfortable with themselves. Something that probably drove him crazy, and that he tried to attack.

[dbfan21]

I guess playing for Parcells has truly gotten to him. Crazy stuff!

Here's the link:

http://cbs4denver.com/breakingnewsalerts/topstories_story_270092653.html

[MechanicalBull]

I had the radio on in the background but if I heard right then I can't believe what I just heard. Ed Werder was on Mike and Mike and reporting from Dallas and he started off by saying it might be a devastating blow for Dallas and he was supposed to take them far into the season.

[dbfan21]

My bad on the double thread. Did not see the other thread on TO.

If it's possible to delete it, go ahead.

Go Broncos!!

[gadlaw]

EXCLUSIVE- From http://www.wfaa.com/
According to a Dallas police report obtained by News 8, Dallas Cowboys star receiver Terrell Owens attempted suicide Tuesday night. The report says Owens was depressed and reportedly took prescription pain pills. A woman companion states that she observed him putting two pills in his mouth. According to the police narrative, the woman said the prescription of 40 pills was filled on September 18 and—until Tuesday—Owens had taken only five pills. The police report said Owens was asked if he had taken the rest of the prescription; Owens said, "Yes." The Dallas Cowboys said they have no comment on the reports, nor do they have any news conference scheduled.

And I'm hearing live now on the Opening Drive that they are saying TO has just left the hospital and 'what suicide attempt?' Spin, backspin, respin - the story churns on.

[cousinal11]

Pretty sad, I don't like the guy but you don't wish a situation like this on anyone.

[Mile High Shack]

that is a huge cry for help

it's pretty obvious he is a sad, sad man and needs some mental health

[Rascal]

he only took two pills? That's hardly a suicide attempt.

Besides, no way do they let him out of the hospital in less then 12 hours if he attempted suicide.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

he only took two pills? That's hardly a suicide attempt.
Besides, no way do they let him out of the hospital in less then 12 hours if he attempted suicide.
The police report said Owens was asked if he had taken the rest of the prescription; Owens said, "Yes."

How could they hold him if he wanted to leave?

[Rascal]

The police report said Owens was asked if he had taken the rest of the prescription; Owens said, "Yes."

How could they hold him if he wanted to leave?

Well I know in Oklahoma and California law they are required to stay in the hospital for 24 hours. Not sure about Texas law.

[barters]

He took two once they Emergency Services arrived.

ESPN Link (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1159307413289&call_pageid=968867503640)

[Mile High Shack]

I personally think he is bipolar

[brncs_fan]

Problem with this story is the method. Men are much more likely to succeed. Women tend to go the pill route so they can live and get the attention that they so badly want.

[DarkHorse]

You're going to find that this is all a bogus dumbass publicity stunt. If he had attempted suicide by ingesting all of those pills they would have kept him because he's a danger to himself.


Whatever - If this turns out bogus i'm going to rip the **** out of him, praying that he does keel over.

I've had 2 very close cousins commit suicide - if this ********** uses this for publicity then I hope he ****ing dies.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Reporting right now on ESPN no stomach pumping, no vomiting, but a severe reaction to pain medication.

Saying that the police report may have been a misunderstanding.

[-Slap-]

I'm not buying any of this crap.

[barters]

I personally think he is bipolar

Yeah I share the same opinion, he must swing in some serious amounts though.

[BroncoBuff]

Poor bastard.

[-Slap-]

If anything this is just FOX taking a non story and running with it as usual.

[bronco militia]

If anything this is just FOX taking a non story and running with it as usual.

uh, no

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0927061owens1.html

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Well I know in Oklahoma and California law they are required to stay in the hospital for 24 hours. Not sure about Texas law.
Why is that, are you going to arrest them if they don't?

[cousinal11]

Sad sad sad. Shows everyone right there that all the money in the world doesn't automatically make you happy.

[barters]

Sad sad sad. Shows everyone right there that all the money in the world doesn't automatically make you happy.

If he is indeed bi-polar then there is nothing in the world that can make him happy sometimes.

[Rascal]

Why is that, are you going to arrest them if they don't?

I don't write the law I just know that's the case.

A danger to themselves and the public or something.

[Mile High Shack]

sounds like TO's agent is shooting off some PR to cover up the attempt

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I don't write the law I just know that's the case.

A danger to themselves and the public or something.

Never heard of it (arresting a an adult because he might commit suicide).

Anyway it appears this was someone running with a police report that wasn't accurate.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

sounds like TO's agent is shooting off some PR to cover up the attempt
Actually, the Dallas newspapers and TV are saying it is some kind of police report screwup.

[Rascal]

Never heard of it (arresting a an adult because he might commit suicide).

Anyway it appears this was someone running with a police report that wasn't accurate.

You aren't following me.

The hospital is required to keep them there for 24 hours by law after an attempted suicide attempt.

[Mile High Shack]

Actually, the Dallas newspapers and TV are saying it is some kind of police report screwup.

how can the police get it wrong that TO said he wanted to harm himself

d'oh well

TO got what he wanted

more attention on himself

[Rascal]

I don't think anybody knows anything at this point. I'll wait for the cowboy press conference later today.

[KipCorrington25]

Problem with this story is the method. Men are much more likely to succeed. Women tend to go the pill route so they can live and get the attention that they so badly want.

He is a little b!tch though so this makes sense.

[gadlaw]

Thank all the heavens and all the angels that he's not a Bronco. What a complete work he is, mental or not.

[Hotrod]

Never heard of it (arresting a an adult because he might commit suicide).

Anyway it appears this was someone running with a police report that wasn't accurate.

I think Rascal is correct they have the right to detain anyone who is a threat to themselves or others.

[Rascal]

A supposed shot of the police report:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6647/snag268hf1.jpg

Take this with a boulder size of salt.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

You aren't following me.

The hospital is required to keep them there for 24 hours by law after an attempted suicide attempt.
You aren't following me, HOW can they if an ADULT doesn't want to without arresting them?

[DarkHorse]

It's like that here too - hospitol will keep you.

[Hotrod]

This has cover up written all over it.

[DarkHorse]

You aren't following me, HOW can they if an ADULT doesn't want to without arresting them?

Restraints - they can't file charges against the hospitol or any staff member that restrains them. The Doctor has the right to keep them for observation. Doesn't matter if your an 18 year old adult or 102 year old adult - IT'S NOT YOUR CHOICE!

You attempt suicide - they will keep you. It's obvious that you are not of sound mind and body so you lose the option of leaving.

[broncosteven]

So if he did OD or took a larger dose than perscribed which caused a reaction or vomiting does that put him in the NFL Drug treatment Plan? Taking a larger dose than perscribed is abusing the perscription & the drug. Just a thought...

[Rascal]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0927061owens1.html

A better source for the police report.

[bronco militia]

rascal

I posted that link about 10 post a go for slap

you suck at the internet;D

[Rascal]

rascal

I posted that link about 10 post a go for slap

you suck at the internet;D

DOH!!

[FloridaResident]

you guys need to lay him off! he just need some help

[cabronco]

It COULD be something like taking too many pain pills within the prescribed time. Since he broke his hand & if he was given Vic's or equivalent , taking one to two more than he was Rx'd could do it, or even a reaction to something else he was already taking. We will see how it unfolds.

[watermock]

If you ever told me I would cry for T.O. I would of laughed. Stupid motherfvucker. It's much deeper than a broken finger. Ya know something, he was a model kid till about 5 years ago.

I guess he was incredibly kind and polite. Something happened. Maybe he had a concussion we don't know about, but his behavior dramatically changed.

[Hotrod]

If you ever told me I would cry for T.O. I would of laughed. Stupid motherfvucker. It's much deeper than a broken finger. Ya know something, he was a model kid till about 5 years ago.

I guess he was incredibly kind and polite. Something happened. Maybe he had a concussion we don't know about, but his behavior dramatically changed.

Ya something happened alright $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Los Broncos]

Wow, this guy does need help, hope he gets better becuase he is fun to watch.

[Rascal]

Cowboys having a press conference at 1:30 CST.

[freak6]

Man fk this dude. He is a coward. He has kids. And he is going to try and kill himself.

This is what you get when football players are allowed to think they are bigger than the team. Ego left unchecked swells like a sun, then implodes into a black hole.

"I love me some me" - he screamed on the sideline for all the world to see.

Apparently not. I don't wish death on this moron, but I don't feel sorry for him at all. Taking pills is a cry for help. At least he's not to the point of pulling a trigger, for the sake of his kids.

[Dagmar]

Some people have really shown their true colors on this thread. Jesus, the guy tries to kill himself and he is mocked? A lot of people I respected just lost my respect for good.

[alkemical]

I personally hope TO figures "it" out. Good luck

[Crush Girl]

The latest says that he took 5 pain pills & was trying to take 2 more when his "friend" intervened... When asked if he was trying to hurt himself, he said "yes." This sounds much more to me like a cry for attention than a suicide attempt. The guy clearly needs help!

[alkemical]

I hope TO figures it out - i know how tough it can be, and when you get locked in a 'low' it's easy to feed the monster.

Good luck TO!

[Dagmar]

The latest says that he took 5 pain pills & was trying to take 2 more when his "friend" intervened... When asked if he was trying to hurt himself, he said "yes." This sounds much more to me like a cry for attention than a suicide attempt. The guy clearly needs help!

It sucks the guy has gotten to this place, no matter where it is. I hope he gets better.

[Crush Girl]

I think I read it wrong, I believe he did take more than 5 pills...but either way he needs help!

[Taco John]

Oh man... Wait 'til Bang gets a hold of this!


/was that joke too soon?

[bpc]

I never wish misery on anybody. For a man that has so much, he continues to ruin all the positive things in his life. It is easy to connect the dots now from San Fran, Philly, and Dallas along with the events that have gone on at each.

There are always these stories about great players who battle with their inner demons... TO is the just the latest story. It sort of reminds of Deion a little bit. He attempted suicide as well at one point in his career.

I hope TO gets some help and hopefully he can work through a lot of these issues he has to deal with.

[cabronco]

Well that news conference was a whole lot of nothing . Typical BS.

[alkemical]

the way i read it was he took about 30 pills

[johnstkr]

Problem with this story is the method. Men are much more likely to succeed. Women tend to go the pill route so they can live and get the attention that they so badly want.

And TO has never wanted attention

[broncsyanks]

maybe now he will shut the hell up. i am tired of hearing all his crap. its pathetic.
but in the end he is a human being. i wish him and his family well. i never want to see anyone do this. its sad.

[cabronco]

His publicist said he ingested up to 35 pills. How do you explain this ?

[broncsyanks]

is it just me or does anyone else get the idea that this might be just a stunt to keep him in the news or something like that??

[alkemical]

Problem with this story is the method. Men are much more likely to succeed. Women tend to go the pill route so they can live and get the attention that they so badly want.

I think it more and more depends on the person.

But then i watched layne staley die for 10 years before his body did.

[Requiem]

It's nothing to joke about. :(

[WolfpackGuy]

Maybe he mistook those for his powdered water pills...

[Crush Girl]

the way i read it was he took about 30 pills

Yeah that's what it looks like...they said he had only taken about 5 of the 40-pill bottle up until this incident. So what now? Will this be the end of T.O.?

[alkemical]

is it just me or does anyone else get the idea that this might be just a stunt to keep him in the news or something like that??

Not for the reasons that are instantly able to be drawn too.

I do think he swung to a low, i think something big triggered it.

But what can make you great, can kill you -

[alkemical]

Yeah that's what it looks like...they said he had only taken about 5 of the 40-pill bottle up until this incident. So what now? Will this be the end of T.O.?

IF he can come out of this positivley he can be alright. But if he treats it as a failure and not a mistake, he will let it eat him and that will feed the monster.

[alkemical]

His publicist said he ingested up to 35 pills. How do you explain this ?



bad joke:

allergic reaction

[cabronco]

bad joke:

allergic reaction

Whats a bad joke ? What his publicist said ?

[spdirty]

Hopefully he's OK and realizes that this is the most selfish thing he has ever done. Guy needs some SERIOUS help.

[GonzoLays]

Oh man... Wait 'til Bang gets a hold of this!


/was that joke too soon?


Noooo, making light of someone's suicide attempt is always in good taste.

[Crush Girl]

You know, it really isn't anything to joke about...but the fact of the matter is that people who REALLY want to kill themselves do it! IMO, this is a HUGE cry for attention (because the stunts he has pulled in the past weren't enough, apparently). If this happened to anyone other than T.O., I would have a lot more sympathy. But because he has already made such an a** out himself in the past, I'm not buying it this time.

[Bronx33]

And on to the drama man! how easy was this to call.

[Rascal]

Police said it is not a criminal offense.

But in Texas committing suicide is not illegal unlike other states.

http://www.weblocator.com/attorney/tx/law/c12.html

[freak6]

"I love me SOME ME" - he yelled for all the world to see.

His ego collasped in on itself like a supernova.

[Rascal]

Pretty sickening to see how some of you are reacting to this including the board owner. Fact is you don't know if it's a publicity stunt. Until it's verified that is, or a huge media ****up, it's nothing to joke about.

[Crush Girl]

Police said it is not a criminal offense.

But in Texas committing suicide is not illegal unlike other states.

http://www.weblocator.com/attorney/tx/law/c12.html

Committing suicide is illegal?? What are they going to do, take someone to jail after they've killed themself? That doesn't even make any sense...

[Rascal]

Noooo, making light of someone's suicide attempt is always in good taste.

Good grief, of all people I have to agree with.

Pretty piss poor comment by TJ.

[alkemical]

Whats a bad joke ? What his publicist said ?



ODin'g on 35 pills is an 'allergic reaction'...... that was my 'bad joke'

[Kaylore]

You know, it really isn't anything to joke about...but the fact of the matter is that people who REALLY want to kill themselves do it! IMO, this is a HUGE cry for attention (because the stunts he has pulled in the past weren't enough, apparently). If this happened to anyone other than T.O., I would have a lot more sympathy. But because he has already made such an a** out himself in the past, I'm not buying it this time.

You know, I don't totally agree that we can't have sympathy for him because I think he's a distrubed man in many ways and needs professional help, but you made some good points here. People who commit suicide usually do it. Taking painkillers over a spread out period of time isn't the best way to take your own life, nor do you take those pills in front of someone else knowing they are going to see you doing it. So far we only have someone witnessing him taking two pills as it is. I'd be curious where this goes from here.

I'm sure TO is depressed, though. You can't make the decissions that you've made and keep estranging yourself from all your friends and expect to be happy. Maybe this will teach him something about life and he'll become a decent person.


And let's just be glad we got Javon Walker.

[alkemical]

You know, it really isn't anything to joke about...but the fact of the matter is that people who REALLY want to kill themselves do it! IMO, this is a HUGE cry for attention (because the stunts he has pulled in the past weren't enough, apparently). If this happened to anyone other than T.O., I would have a lot more sympathy. But because he has already made such an a** out himself in the past, I'm not buying it this time.



I was like that at one time, but i realized it wasn't for attention like TO - i just really hated myself.

[broncosteven]

His publicist said he ingested up to 35 pills. How do you explain this ?

I bet Michael Irvin told TO he used to take 40 at a time in his day because he was a PLAYMAKER! TO just needed some hookers around incase he nodded off.

[GonzoLays]

It's nothing to joke about. :(

Ditto.

It's funny (or not), an animal dies and everybody is crying, mourning, and sending out their condolences. A human tries to take his life, and its open mike night here at the Orangemane.

Some people have no class.

[broncosteven]

Ditto.

It's funny (or not), an animal dies and everybody is crying, mourning, and sending out their condolences. A human tries to take his life, and its open mike night here at the Orangemane.

Some people have no class.

Since when do you have class? You are the 1st to crap on threads.

[Rascal]

Committing suicide is illegal?? What are they going to do, take someone to jail after they've killed themself? That doesn't even make any sense...

If they attempt and fail they can be charged in some states. California comes to mind immediately.

I think it also allows the state to take part of their life insurance or whatever to help pay for costs of trying to revive, etc. Cold hearted.

[Rascal]

Since when do you have class? You are the 1st to crap on threads.

Comparing crapping on threads to mocking somebody who "might" have tried to kill himself?

Based on your posts in this thread he has more class then you. :oyvey:

[alkemical]

You know, I don't totally agree that we can't have sympathy for him because I think he's a distrubed man in many ways and needs professional help, but you made some good points here. People who commit suicide usually do it. Taking painkillers over a spread out period of time isn't the best way to take your own life, nor do you take those pills in front of someone else knowing they are going to see you doing it. So far we only have someone witnessing him taking two pills as it is. I'd be curious where this goes from here.

I'm sure TO is depressed, though. You can't make the decissions that you've made and keep estranging yourself from all your friends and expect to be happy. Maybe this will teach him something about life and he'll become a decent person.


And let's just be glad we got Javon Walker.


yeah but it's hard to explain to people who don't know or have been there - what it's like to 'never be happy' - and get so depressed that it lasts for weeks on end.

Some of this is for attention, but not for/from the media IMO -

[broncosteven]

Based on your posts in this thread he has more class then you. :oyvey:

My shot was at Irvin, My other question was weather they could place TO in the NFL treatment program.

I am not apologizing for those posts.

[alkemical]

some of you guys just don't get it and i'm glad you don't in some ways. Mostly due to you have 'never been there'.

Like him or hate him, but this could be your kid, sister, brother, mother, etc one day in your life - and you may understand then - i hope you don't though.

[freak6]

I can see someone dieing of cancer in extreme pain wanting to end thier life.
I can see why some poor bastards out there would rather be dead than go on living. But people are coming home from Iraq with no face and limbs, and they don't <b>quit. </b>

But TO? This is just another stupid decision by the most selfish athlete on the planet, and we are all feeling sorry for him because he is a superstar athlete. That $20 mill he has in the bank must be making life rough.

How about go see a psychologist? He can afford a team of them.

He has no reason to kill himself. He's got his kids, his family, and the world at his beck and call.

WAFP

[Rascal]

My shot was at Irvin, My other question was weather they could place TO in the NFL treatment program.

I am not apologizing for those posts.

No it wasn't.

I am not suprised.

[GonzoLays]

I bet Michael Irvin told TO he used to take 40 at a time in his day because he was a PLAYMAKER! TO just needed some hookers around incase he nodded off.

:oyvey:

[Rascal]

some of you guys just don't get it and i'm glad you don't in some ways. Mostly due to you have 'never been there'.

Like him or hate him, but this could be your kid, sister, brother, mother, etc one day in your life - and you may understand then - i hope you don't though.

Rep.

[Bronx33]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1127/baker3mushroomcloudeditmq0.jpg

[Requiem]

http://www.sfbappa.org/SF28.images/6%20PORTRAIT.PERSONALITY/03.jpg

NO PILLZZZZZ

I feel really bad for the guy, but seeing that picture just made me think that. No laughing matter. :( I had to talk a resident out of suicide the other day. . . hardest hour of my life probably, but he dropped out of school though, which is unfortunate. . . feel for him though. Hopefully T.O. gets better. Like him or not, this is serious ****.

[gadlaw]

Committing suicide is illegal?? What are they going to do, take someone to jail after they've killed themself? That doesn't even make any sense...

By the early 1990s only two US states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_views_of_suicide

[manchambo]

Man fk this dude. He is a coward. He has kids. And he is going to try and kill himself.

This is what you get when football players are allowed to think they are bigger than the team. Ego left unchecked swells like a sun, then implodes into a black hole.

"I love me some me" - he screamed on the sideline for all the world to see.

Apparently not. I don't wish death on this moron, but I don't feel sorry for him at all. Taking pills is a cry for help. At least he's not to the point of pulling a trigger, for the sake of his kids.


I'm sure that this is entirely about football. Because all your little football heroes who you worship so much aren't actual people, they are just players, and they exist only in the context in which you obsess about them. And the ones you don't like, they are only bad insofar as they fail in some way to meet what you take to be the ideal for a football player.

No chance this has anything to do with mental illness, eh? No chance he has problems you've never heard about? It's just what happens when a player is allowed to become more important than the team.

[broncosteven]

No it wasn't.

I am not suprised.

Yes it was! Irvin is the biggest TO apoligist on the Earth. He also got busted with Drugs & hookers in a hotel room, that was the shot I was taking.

Sure I do not respect TO I didn't before today & his sucide attempt did not earn anymore respect with me but the shot I made was aimed at IRVIN. It may not have been clear enough but it was intended to pierce the PLAYMAKER's armor not TO's.

[Man-Goblin]

Good grief, of all people I have to agree with.

Pretty piss poor comment by TJ.

I agree. I feel bad for TO.

Those people stating that swallowing pills is simply a cry for attention should rethink.

There is a lot of uncertainty for anyone trying to do this. The possibility of dying must cross their mind at some point, even if the ideal result may be to live and generate sympathy and attention. The most disturbing part about an act such as this, then, is not necessarily that they want to die, it's that they don't care if they live; that the risk involved in a stunt like this is somehow worth it.

It's sad. I hope he can get some help and I hope he'll be OK.

[freak6]

No chance this has anything to do with mental illness, eh? No chance he has problems you've never heard about? It's just what happens when a player is allowed to become more important than the team.

No, he is clearly mental. He should have gotten help, not tried to kill himself.

That is quiting. Quiting is never an option in my book. Never. He quit. He quit on his team, but that is the least important thing.

He quit on his family, and he quit on his kids.

That is unforgivable in my book. But then I am single parent so I am very biased. It makes me sick that this dude is SO selfish, as he has demonstrated trying to be a pro basketball player threatening to quit on the 9ers, to what he did to the Eagles, and now to this. SO selfish, that he wouldn't seek help.

Then again, I'm probably wrong. TO is most assuredly in counseling anyway. I'm not suprised he hates himself enough to kill himself, he's been a terrible teammate and example for kids all over.

[REB]

Well he is either a very messed up man or he is the attention whore to beat all attention whores. Either way, for his families sake at least I hope he can get his chit together eventually.

[Kaylore]

2 threads?

[Pezman]

Just a very, very sad thing to see a guy with such incredible talent being so troubled. Putting aside all hate that I have for players who act like he did in the past, I cant help but feel incredibly sad for the guy since he is clearly having to live up to an image that he created (and one that the media created as well).

In my view, when it comes down to it, he is just a man, one who is troubled by the need and pressures that his job requires of him. The guy can have all the money in the world and still be troubled. Just goes to show you that being in the limelight can be a very high pressure situation.

Here's to hoping he can get the professional help he needs and that he can find his way back onto the football field soon. I'll be pulling for him.

[gadlaw]

Yes it was! Irvin is the biggest TO apoligist on the Earth. He also got busted with Drugs & hookers in a hotel room, that was the shot I was taking.

Sure I do not respect TO I didn't before today & his sucide attempt did not earn anymore respect with me but the shot I made was aimed at IRVIN. It may not have been clear enough but it was intended to pierce the PLAYMAKER's armor not TO's.

Every time I see Irvin smiling and grinning it makes me cringe, he is the biggest TO apologist and he is a drugs and hookers guy but like Keith Richards, Darwin hasn't taken him to his richly deserved reward. He's either toned it way way down or is better at hiding his drug use. It's a shame too, Sterling Sharpe was so much better and knew football better than Irvin. I hate that guy.

[Kid A]

I'm not sure I could ever accuse someone who attempted suicide of being selfish. I've never been there, so I can't begin to imagine what goes into it. Even TO, who has long put up the facade of being brash and cocky, could be suffering through some very serious mental problems that make it impossible for him to consider the ramifications. I just know from reading about him that he had a pretty f'ed up childhood. He has been a prick in the past, but I hope he can get help for what looks to be a very serious issue.

[ZachKC]

And on to the drama man! how easy was this to call.
Obviously not that easy.

I never heard someone predict TO would try to commit suicide...did you? ???

[Bronx33]

Obviously not that easy.

I never heard someone predict TO would try to commit suicide...did you? ???



Just the drama man (just the drama) i did say TO would do something though, check my posts your good at it.

[broncosteven]

For his own good TO ought to read Joseph Hellers Catch 22 or at least one of many Study guides on the Internet. He may find a Parallel with his own life & a way to break his own lifes cycles.

Catch-22
Joseph Heller
Themes:

Pity - The reader has pity for each soldier every time he is afraid to go on a mission.
Reality- Each soldier has to face the fact that there is a chance that he may never come down from a mission alive.
Hope- Orr has a constant hope of crashing successfully and escaping to Sweden.
Sanity--Yossarian claims that he is the only sane one in the squadron and everyone else is crazy.
Friendship- -Yossarian's bonds with the other men are important.
Confusion-- A great deal of confusion is caused by the use of the term Catch-22.
Greed-- The Machiavellian philosophy of Cathcart and Milo demonstrates this theme.
Guilt-- The death of Snowden plagues Yossarian throughout the war.
Key Issues

Confusion: Catch-22 is a military term that is confusing and difficult to describe. In short, its basic meaning is that if there was a rule, no matter what the rule is, there is always an exception to it. It is a mysterious regulation that is in essence a circular argument. This catch keeps Yossarian in the war because a concern for one's own life proved that he is not really crazy, and to get out of combat you have to be crazy. The catch is used by the superior powers to uphold and increase their power, and yet it is harmful to those who do not have power in the first place. It creates situations where, when you think everything is perfect, Catch-22 pops up and makes your plans impossible.



Greed--Machiavellian philosophy- the end justifies the means- Cathcart cares only about becoming general, and he will do anything to impress an existing general. Therefore he keeps raising the number of missions that his men are required to fly so that his group has more total missions than any other. He does not care that he is raising his man's chances of dying- he only wants to be promoted to a more powerful position. Milo is another prime example of a man who follows this type of idea. He wants money and will do anything to get it. He goes to so far as to bomb his own squadron because he can make a huge profit. He confiscates vital supplies and sells them, simply to acquire more money. When Orr's plane is shot down, the life jackets will not inflate because Milo has taken the carbon dioxide to make ice cream sodas.



Guilt- Snowden dies during a routine mission. While Yossarian is sitting in his bombardier's compartment, his plane is being surrounded around by enemy fire. Snowden is unfortunately a victim of the flak, and is wounded fatally. When Yossarian discovers that Snowden is injured, he rushes to his aid. Sadly, though, Yossarian nurses the wrong wound, and Snowden dies from a hidden chest wound. This incident thoroughly changes the meaning of the war for Yossarian. Before this incident, Yossarian was a dedicated bombardier, who , although he did not agree with the idea of war, he almost enjoyed the missions and did not mind the danger. After the death of Snowden, Yossarian decides that his only mission is to come down alive. The war suddenly has a personal meaning to him, and he can see what hardships war could bring.

Lessons, Morals, and Applications

From the themes of confusion and greed, as well as the men's experiences with the idea of catch-22, it is quite plain to see that men with power will keep power, and those without power suffer the consequences. As a familiar quote says, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Yossarian learns the hard way that men with power have a tendency to abuse their authority.

He did find, though, that if one believes in something hard enough and works diligently towards a goal, the goal will at one point be accomplished, or at least a portion of the goal will become true. Yossarian wants to be grounded, yet every time he requests to be, his attempt is denied. In the end, Yossarian actually defies the laws of military life and escapes. Yossarian learns that even thought Catch-22 does not exist, it actually does because everyone believes it does. It is here that the theme of reality plays a role, because although Catch-22 may not exist in physical reality, it does in the minds of all the characters, making it a real part of their lives.

Guilt is a visible theme in Heller's novel, but the reader finds that guilt is not always needed. For example, Yossarian could not have helped Snowden in his hour of need, but he felt guilty because he did not save his life. It is only human nature to feel guilt when one takes the blame for an incident, even if it was not his fault. Human emotion is a strong feeling that can plague one person for years after an incident.

Setting

The novel takes place during World War Two in an American army camp on the island of Pianosa as well as in Rome.

Background Information / Plot

The main character is Yossarian, who suffers from a severe fear of death. He and his comrades are in the Air Force. All of the men are in the 256th squadron (2 to the fighting 8th power, of you want to use it in a poem). This novel takes place during World War II. Yossarian's main antagonist is Colonel Cathcart, whose goal in life is to become a general. Yossarian wants to stop flying missions so he does not get killed, yet Cathcart's aim is to continue raising the number of required missions in order to impress his superiors. He uses Catch-22's unfair illogical rules to keep the men flying. This creates a constant conflict between Yossarian and Colonel Cathcart.

Orr manages to escape the horror of the war through careful planning. Each mission he goes on is a practice in the art of crashing and survival in the sea. He makes sure he is able to inflate rafts, get food, and maneuver properly using a tiny spoon. These plans come in use when one mission he crashes but does not return. It is only then does Yossarian realize Orr's genius. All of this planning was used to help Orr sail off to freedom in Sweden, away from the death and destruction of World War II.

In a quick summary, some of the other important sub-plots in Catch-22 are as follows:

Nately and his whore are having a love affair throughout the novel. His whore never really responds to his love, but once she decides she loves him, Nately is killed in battle. Yossarian broke the news to her, and the novel concludes with Nately's whore trying to kill Yossarian in violent rage...

More here: http://www.bellmore-merrick.k12.ny.us/catch22.html

Note: This is my sincere heart felt warm & fuzzy contribution to TO. If you cannot see the parallel's between this book & his public life & the cycles in it you need to reread the book.

[Bronx33]

I read on another site T.O. wants to have a press conference within the hour, is it true? i guess we will see.

[Pezman]

I can understand why everyone wants to villify TO for his actions on and off the field, but what I just dont understand is the making light of his suicide attempt.

It seems like the line blurs between sports and reality for some of us. Not for me though... I would never wish the guy harm or make light of his very tragic situation last night based on his team affiliation or past. We take this stuff too seriously if we are hoping for injury or harm on a football player.

Clearly he is hurting and facing enormous pressure which is partially self-created, however, I just cant get past the reality of what sports can do to a person and the pressures that it surely brings. Again, I hope the guy can be ok from this. I'm sure the media hacks will play this out all week getting all that dirty laundry and sensationalistic garbage all week.

[DomCasual]

The acetaminophen in 35 Vicodin is scary. The hydrocodone probably will kill you if it gets into your system. If it doesn't, the acetaminophen will ruin your liver, and you'll wish the hydrocodone would have gotten you.

[alkemical]

I can see someone dieing of cancer in extreme pain wanting to end thier life.
I can see why some poor bastards out there would rather be dead than go on living. But people are coming home from Iraq with no face and limbs, and they don't <b>quit. </b>

But TO? This is just another stupid decision by the most selfish athlete on the planet, and we are all feeling sorry for him because he is a superstar athlete. That $20 mill he has in the bank must be making life rough.

How about go see a psychologist? He can afford a team of them.

He has no reason to kill himself. He's got his kids, his family, and the world at his beck and call.

WAFP


Yeah and you know what - i learned how to manipulate my 'shrink'. I was able to 'act' my way through it for years before she caught on, and when she did i fired her for incompetence.

Doesn't matter man, there is no way i can explain it to those that don't understand this:

When you feel that way, you validate all your own negative self image issues - then it causes you to believe you need to be punished - so you keep setting yourself up for those situations -

i guess you create your own self fulfilling prophecy of failure, and when you do it validates you are failure - then you accept failure - then you validate failure - rinse repeat about 10-15x's a day (in my case) for about 6 weeks on end (mine usually ran anywhere from 2wks-12wks)

[bendog]

some of you guys just don't get it and i'm glad you don't in some ways. Mostly due to you have 'never been there'.

Like him or hate him, but this could be your kid, sister, brother, mother, etc one day in your life - and you may understand then - i hope you don't though.

Damn, and I had a good vidocin joke ..... But you're right, suicide's no joke. Getting a pain killer monkey on your back cause of a broken hand or ribs is one thing, but killing yourself when in realitively good health isn't funny.

[Dagmar]

Just a very, very sad thing to see a guy with such incredible talent being so troubled. Putting aside all hate that I have for players who act like he did in the past, I cant help but feel incredibly sad for the guy since he is clearly having to live up to an image that he created (and one that the media created as well).

In my view, when it comes down to it, he is just a man, one who is troubled by the need and pressures that his job requires of him. The guy can have all the money in the world and still be troubled. Just goes to show you that being in the limelight can be a very high pressure situation.

Here's to hoping he can get the professional help he needs and that he can find his way back onto the football field soon. I'll be pulling for him.

Good post. REP

Apprently Deion Sanders spoke to him in the last hour and TO laughed off suggestions of a suicide attempt?

[BroncoInferno]

I can understand why everyone wants to villify TO for his actions on and off the field, but what I just dont understand is the making light of his suicide attempt.

It seems like the line blurs between sports and reality for some of us. Not for me though... I would never wish the guy harm or make light of his very tragic situation last night based on his team affiliation or past. We take this stuff too seriously if we are hoping for injury or harm on a football player.

Clearly he is hurting and facing enormous pressure which is partially self-created, however, I just cant get past the reality of what sports can do to a person and the pressures that it surely brings. Again, I hope the guy can be ok from this. I'm sure the media hacks will play this out all week getting all that dirty laundry and sensationalistic garbage all week.

Well said, Big Guy. The joke cracking and lack of sympathy I've seem from some posters is shameless.

[Rascal]

TO has been released and is now at his home.

[Taco John]

This wasn't a suicide attempt... This was another call for help in a long string of calls for help from this primadonna. The guy didn't want to commit suicide. The guy wanted to get his mug in the media next to the idea that he wanted to commit suicide. When a man who wants to commit suicide truly wants to commit suicide, they don't fail.

I'm definitely not in favor of seeing the guy die. I am in favor of seeing him go away. I hope this latest cry for attention fills the hole in his heart and he turns over a new leaf. But that leaf is only going to turn when the guy realizes that he's the master of his own destiny, his own best friend and worst enemy, and it's up to him to fill that hole. Nobody can do it for him.

My comment was definitely in poor taste. I'm just sick of TO's constant need for attention. I wouldn't have made light of it if I truly believed the guy was on his death knell.

[Dagmar]

Well said, Big Guy. The joke cracking and lack of sympathy I've seem from some posters is shameless.

As I said before, a number of posters on this thread have shown their true selves and will never have my respect again, whether it turns out to be a suicide try or not.

[Circle Orange]

NOW they're saying he'll return to practice tomorrow. WTF????

[BroncoInferno]

This wasn't a suicide attempt... This was another call for help in a long string of calls for help from this primadonna. The guy didn't want to commit suicide. The guy wanted to get his mug in the media next to the idea that he wanted to commit suicide. When a man who wants to commit suicide truly wants to commit suicide, they don't fail.

I'm definitely not in favor of seeing the guy die. I am in favor of seeing him go away. I hope this latest cry for attention fills the hole in his heart and he turns over a new leaf. But that leaf is only going to turn when the guy realizes that he's the master of his own destiny, his own best friend and worst enemy, and it's up to him to fill that hole. Nobody can do it for him.

Swallowing 30 pain pills may not be the most efficient way to do yourself in, but it'll do the job just fine. Extrapolating a guys attitude in the realm of football to his personal life shows a poor perspective on things, in my opinion. So he ran out to the star against Dallas and implied that his QB choked in the Super Bowl. Big deal. What real life significance does any of that have? Did he kill anyone? Molest a child? Leonard Little is a guy who deserves true derision, not T.O.

[Dagmar]

This just gets stranger.

[Bronx33]

Suicide or not it's another distraction and another episode.

[BroncoInferno]

Starting to sound like the media may have gotten it wrong.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

This wasn't a suicide attempt... This was another call for help in a long string of calls for help from this primadonna. .How do you know that yet? The Dallas police captain just said the police report shouldn't have been released and was premature. Also the medical people said he had an allergic reaction that is why he was taken to the hospital.

[Taco John]

Swallowing 30 pain pills may not be the most efficient way to do yourself in, but it'll do the job. Extrapolating a guys attitude in the realm of football to his personal life shows a poor perspective on things, in my opinion. So he ran out to the star against Dallas and implied that his QB choked in the Super Bowl. Big deal. What real life significance does any of that have? Did he kill anyone? Molest a child? Leonard Little is a guy who deserves true derision, not T.O.



I agree that Leonard Little is a guy who deserves true derision. But the thing that irritates me about TO is he's a guy who has the world in the palm of his hand, and he continually wipes his ass with it. I probably shouldn't have made the comment. The only reason I did was because I didn't take the "attempt" seriously, because I don't believe he was serious about it himself. I think this is all about getting his mug in the media again trying to illicit more symapthy for poor TO, who's victimized by this mean evil world who just wont give the poor man a fair shake. Personally, I think the guy needs tough love, not enablement.

In the end, he'll probably be playing football by this weekend, and the media will have another feild day over it, and Terrell will get what he was really after.

My comment was made in bad taste. But it was made mostly to mock the constant media wagon that follows the guy around, not in hopes that TO would die.

[alkemical]

When a man who wants to commit suicide truly wants to commit suicide, they don't fail.






Not true - infact a failed attempt can make the next attempt "SURE" that it will work next time.

Sorry man, but if i could tie a knot better, i wouldn't be here. lucky for me, i sat there laughing at myself - saying if i can't do that right - then i must be here for some reason.

[BroncoInferno]

I agree that Leonard Little is a guy who deserves true derision. But the thing that irritates me about TO is he's a guy who has the world in the palm of his hand, and he continually wipes his ass with it. I probably shouldn't have made the comment. The only reason I did was because I didn't take the "attempt" seriously, because I don't believe he was serious about it himself. I think this is all about getting his mug in the media again trying to illicit more symapthy for poor TO, who's victimized by this mean evil world who just wont give the poor man a fair shake. Personally, I think the guy needs tough love, not enablement.

In the end, he'll probably be playing football by this weekend, and the media will have another feild day over it, and Terrell will get what he was really after.

Taco, do you really think the first thing on TOs mind when (or, I should say, if) he swallowed 30 pills was "Gee, how can I get my mug in the news again? I know!" You have to be a very depressed, miserable person to swallow 30 pain pills.

[Mile High Shack]

people with mental problems can't make good decisions

he needs to be on tegretal or lithium not pain pills

[freak6]

The report says <b>he</b> told the cops "I'm depressed" and that he was trying to hurt himself, and that he took the other 35 pills.

[alkemical]

people with mental problems can't make good decisions

he needs to be on tegretal or lithium not pain pills



MHS people don't get it sometimes - You know that whole reality thing i go into alot? Sometimes it's a really different world and it's hard to explain that you 'prove' your 'failings' and there is nothing you can do to change that.

[Bronx33]

The report says <b>he</b> told the cops "I'm depressed" and that he was trying to hurt himself, and that he took the other 35 pills.



If i had his bank account that would pretty much sure any depression i might have.

[-Slap-]

I never wish misery on anybody. For a man that has so much, he continues to ruin all the positive things in his life. It is easy to connect the dots now from San Fran, Philly, and Dallas along with the events that have gone on at each.

There are always these stories about great players who battle with their inner demons... TO is the just the latest story. It sort of reminds of Deion a little bit. He attempted suicide as well at one point in his career.

I hope TO gets some help and hopefully he can work through a lot of these issues he has to deal with.

Right.

Deion's "suicide attempt".

The ****ing idiot claimed he drove his car off a cliff and God caught the car and placed it gently back on the roadway.

Because, you know, God himself would personally intervene if someone as magnificent as Deion Sanders decided to cash out early.

At least its possible TO had the courtesy to go through with an actual suicidal gesture and not just blow a bunch of smoke up everyone's ass like Deion.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Police said it is not a criminal offense.
But in Texas committing suicide is not illegal unlike other states.
http://www.weblocator.com/attorney/tx/law/c12.html

It's not a crime in any state that I know of.

[gadlaw]

Starting to sound like the media may have gotten it wrong.

Well, it is interesting watching how a tiny bit of information is spun and turned around to say a bunch of different things. I saw the 'police report' which didn't have anything on it to show it was from the police department and the only proof we have that it is a police report is that the one site -wfaa or whatever, said it was a police report. And even there, the vicodin bottle which started out with 40 pills on the 18th, now has none in it. We talking about yesterday? the 26th would make 8 or 9 days of pills, three or four a day, maybe. If you discount that he had only took 5 in the 8 or 9 days of being injured. You could discount what he might have been saying or might not have been saying about taking or not taking the pills. A friend overreacting, who knows. If he was trying to kill himself he might have done it when there was nobody there, if he was just 'crying out for help' he could have just talked about killing himself. If he was just joking and was a bit vicodin/sleep deprived groggy it might have gone down exactly as it did. But all in all, you can read that paragraph of possible police report and make your own decisions about what it says and then look at your favorite news outlets to see who was most accurate with that same info. Fox news right now is going with what you would expect - 'attempted suicide!!!', but that's just FOX, Sirius guys said 'hold it, we don't know what happened yet.' NFL Network is playing the Deion Sanders interview and talking to Deion who had just talked to TO and he's saying it was nothing but pray for TO. All interesting.

[freak6]

Sorry man, but if i could tie a knot better, i wouldn't be here. lucky for me, i sat there laughing at myself - saying if i can't do that right - then i must be here for some reason.

Swirling round with this familiar parable.
Spinning, weaving round each new experience.
Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this
Chance to be alive and breathing
Chance to be alive and breathing.

This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
Embrace this moment. remember. we are eternal.
All this pain is an illusion.

[Mile High Shack]

MHS people don't get it sometimes - You know that whole reality thing i go into alot? Sometimes it's a really different world and it's hard to explain that you 'prove' your 'failings' and there is nothing you can do to change that.

I think TO is crying out for help

all his up and down moments he has had and his "crazy" acting and now this stuff

Most people with mental problems, as you well know, don't start showing symptoms till either their late teens or in their 20's...which is when TO started showing signs, in his mid 20's

He needs to see a mental health professional and admit he has a problem or he'll never get better

if he truly does have a mental problem, I have more sympathy for him, as I know what it's like since my brother is like that...as do you with your dad

[Dagmar]

If i had his bank account that would pretty much sure any depression i might have.

Yup, anyone without money problems is always obscenely happy.

[Taco John]

Taco, do you really thing the first think on TOs mind when (or, I should say, if) he swallowed 30 pills was "Gee, how can I get my mug in the news again? I know!" You have to be a very depressed, miserable person to swallow 30 pain pills.


I don't think the thought process really went like that. (If this was a suicide attempt, as now there are conflicting reports) I think there were probably a lot of self defeating thoughts that went along with it, tagged along with a complete lack of perspective about how truly blessed and gifted he really is.

...and now it will turn into the typical media circus that follows him around. He'll be on 60 minutes. He'll do an interview with Andrea Kremer. They'll talk about him on every pre game show. The spotlight will be bright hot white on the guy, and his teammates will play second fiddle to his travelling media circus once again.

Like I say... The comment about "wait until Bang gets ahold of this," was in poor taste. It was cynical and sarcastic, and made to comment on the media circus that this will ignite, only after I had heard he was alright. I don't want to see the guy die. I just want to see him pull his act together and be the best Terrell Owens he can possibly be.

[-Slap-]

http://www.webaugur.com/matt/images/beretta_92fs.jpg

Stop pussyfooting around.

[Old Dude]

I've been really busy with something else and only heard about this a few minutes ago.

What do we actually know about the situation?

[bronco militia]

http://www.webaugur.com/matt/images/beretta_92fs.jpg

Stop pussyfooting around.

Ha!

[freak6]

http://www.webaugur.com/matt/images/beretta_92fs.jpg

Stop pussyfooting around.

See, Slap is probably gonna get the PC police on him for that. But I am lmao.

Did anyone see Norm MacDonald on The Daily Show, he was making jokes about the Crocadile Hunter dieing. It was insensitive as hell, but funny as hell too.

[Dagmar]

Always classy slap. You're turning into mock without the booze.

[bendog]

Right.

Deion's "suicide attempt".

The ****ing idiot claimed he drove his car off a cliff and God caught the car and placed it gently back on the roadway.

Because, you know, God himself would personally intervene if someone as magnificent as Deion Sanders decided to cash out early.

At least its possible TO had the courtesy to go through with an actual suicidal gesture and not just blow a bunch of smoke up everyone's ass like Deion.

Neon's just an arrogant a-hole. I've always found something curiously self-destructive about TO. Clav's (formely Ames) posts really do describe a bipolar depression. Not that I find TO to be someone I'd like to meet or see on my fav team's roster. But, don't you think it's fair to say that with a qb like McNabb, TO could really have rewritten records given his talent? Something like 150 catches or something. Instead, he screws up and gets his attention that way.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Restraints - they can't file charges against the hospitol or any staff member that restrains them. The Doctor has the right to keep them for observation. Doesn't matter if your an 18 year old adult or 102 year old adult - IT'S NOT YOUR CHOICE!

You attempt suicide - they will keep you. It's obvious that you are not of sound mind and body so you lose the option of leaving.

Really, how's that if suicide is not a crime? As far as I know, suicide is not a crime in ANY state.

[bendog]

I dunno Slap. When I get the dementia/alzheimer's diagnosis, I think I'm going with booze and pills

[-Slap-]

Every time I see Irvin smiling and grinning it makes me cringe, he is the biggest TO apologist and he is a drugs and hookers guy but like Keith Richards, Darwin hasn't taken him to his richly deserved reward. He's either toned it way way down or is better at hiding his drug use. It's a shame too, Sterling Sharpe was so much better and knew football better than Irvin. I hate that guy.

Irvin hasn't toned down anything. I have a friend in LA who runs in the same circles and Irvin never slowed down for a minute.

[Dagmar]

I've been really busy with something else and only heard about this a few minutes ago.

What do we actually know about the situation?

Very little I believe. When he was taken in it was a suicide attempt, now his publicist and TO himself are saying it was a "bad reaction". I remember when Kurt cobain had a "bad reaction" to pills and champagne in a Rome hotel room.

[Mile High Shack]

Neon's just an arrogant a-hole. I've always found something curiously self-destructive about TO. Clav's (formely Ames) posts really do describe a bipolar depression. Not that I find TO to be someone I'd like to meet or see on my fav team's roster. But, don't you think it's fair to say that with a qb like McNabb, TO could really have rewritten records given his talent? Something like 150 catches or something. Instead, he screws up and gets his attention that way.

from my experience....although my brother never attempted suicide, he did however repeat many times he wish he would die and that he doesn't understand why he was born, so yeah, he has had those thoughts...anyway

it makes sense about TO now, after looking at it, he is chemically imbalanced and it's hard for others to understand that who haven't dealt with that in their lives b4

[-Slap-]

Always classy slap. You're turning into mock without the booze.

You're right. I'll go pretend to kill myself so people will like me again.

[Taco John]

I've been really busy with something else and only heard about this a few minutes ago.

What do we actually know about the situation?


We're never going to know until TO writes his next book. The PR people are all over this right now, doing what PR people get paid to do.

[Dagmar]

Really, how's that if suicide is not a crime? As far as I know, suicide is not a crime in ANY state.

I believe that when they believe you are not of sound mind to make a decision they can keep you.

[Crush Girl]

Well said, Big Guy. The joke cracking and lack of sympathy I've seem from some posters is shameless.

So now apparently this whole thing was a mistake and he thought he was just taking supplements... Exactly where my "lack of sympathy" came from in the first place... If I would have ever believed that this was anything more than a HUGE cry for attention, there would have been some sympathy. Now I'm just even more disgusted with him than I was before... T.O. is the one making light of suicide, not the posters on here...

[Bronx33]

We're never going to know until TO writes his next book. The PR people are all over this right now, doing what PR people get paid to do.



Even if he does write it in a book (is it true) and is TO PR downplaying this? i doubt we will get the full truth but one things for sure TO is in the limelight in week 4 of the season. (stay tuned) it's just the tip of the iceberg.

[-Slap-]

Starting to sound like the media may have gotten it wrong.

Gee, ya think?

[BroncoInferno]

So now apparently this whole thing was a mistake and he thought he was just taking supplements... Exactly where my "lack of sympathy" came from in the first place... If I would have ever believed that this was anything more than a HUGE cry for attention, there would have been some sympathy. Now I'm just even more disgusted with him than I was before... T.O. is the one making light of suicide, not the posters on here...

I see...so it's TOs fault if the media reports a story about him wrong?

[Crushaholic]

If it's a true suicide attempt, I feel bad for him and his family and he needs help. If it's another "media stunt", I feel bad for his family and he can go to hell. I guess we'll see very soon...

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

TO is supposed to have a press conference at 1130 Mountain. Will be live on ESPN radio and I assume ESPN TV.

[MechanicalBull]

Whether this was a suicide attempt, a pr move, or a miscommunication this guy seriously needs some serious mental help in some sort of way.

[Bronx33]

Not sure how hospitals operate but with a suicide attempt is there a mandatory 72 hours stay? and not released the same day?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Press conference now moved to 115 mtn.

[Crush Girl]

I see...so it's TOs fault if the media reports a story about him wrong?

You can't always blame everything on the media. T.O. said "yes" when asked if he was trying to hurt himself, and the police report said he was taken to the hospital for attemted suicide... and now that he got the attention he wanted, it is all a mistake.

[dbfan4life]

See, Slap is probably gonna get the PC police on him for that. But I am lmao.

Did anyone see Norm MacDonald on The Daily Show, he was making jokes about the Crocadile Hunter dieing. It was insensitive as hell, but funny as hell too.

Funny as hell when one person you know has taken that way out, even funnier when two people you know have done it. Funnier still when those two people are your dad and brother. Insensitive pricks.

Edit: I hope that TO gets help fpr this and this is not just another stunt of his. Either way it's a cry for help. One attempt usually need to another unless something is done.

[BroncoInferno]

You can't always blame everything on the media. T.O. said "yes" when asked if he was trying to hurt himself, and the police report said he was taken to the hospital for attemted suicide... and now that he got the attention he wanted, it is all a mistake.

First off, we don't know if the report that he said "yes" was accurate. Second, if he had an alergic reaction of some kind that was severe enough to put him in the hospital he was likely unable to think clearly, and could have easily not understood the question or just groaned some unintelligible thing the cops mistook for an affirmative response. Well need to have some confirmation of facts before we know any of this.

Seriously, though, you don't honestly believe that TO intended for people to think he attempted suicide, when in fact he hadn't, for a media stunt, do you? C'mon. I mean, he was already getting plenty of attention with the whole Parcells thing.

[cabronco]

I just took 30 + Vicodin, but they were taken in a 8 day span for chronic pain. Im not sure what TO was taking, but Vics 750"s are like horse pills, its not like you can swallow a handful of 30 at one time. One is tough enough. Im not sure.. I don't think and seriously hope this was not a publicity stunt. But attempting to cash out isnt too good either.

[Mile High Shack]

Whether this was a suicide attempt, a pr move, or a miscommunication this guy seriously needs some serious mental help in some sort of way.

exactly

he is classic bipolar

[Taco John]

I see...so it's TOs fault if the media reports a story about him wrong?


A a person who has worked in PR professionally for the last 7 years, I can tell you that the original story is usually the most accurate. Once the PR people get ahold of the story, the only thing you're going to hear is a story that is in the 'best interest' of the client. It's possible that the police got it wrong, but I'm doubtful of that.

I can tell you that one of the first tools in the PR toolbox is "the police got it wrong."

[-Slap-]

Seriously, though, you don't honestly believe that TO intended for people to think he attempted suicide, when in fact he hadn't, for a media stunt, do you? C'mon. I mean, he was already getting plenty of attention with the whole Parcells thing.

You're right. He's never done anything completely irrational before.

[Mile High Shack]

A a person who has worked in PR professionally for the last 7 years, I can tell you that the original story is usually the most accurate. Once the PR people get ahold of the story, the only thing you're going to hear is a story that is in the 'best interest' of the client. It's possible that the police got it wrong, but I'm doubtful of that.

totally agree here with TJ

police probably didn't get it wrong

rather TO's people are spinning it to make their client look ok

the problem is, some of his people need to realize he needs help and not protected

[DarkHorse]

Really, how's that if suicide is not a crime? As far as I know, suicide is not a crime in ANY state.


I honestly don't know why - that's just how it is here in Ohio. My mother in-law is bi-polar and flipped out attempting suicide with a 12 gauge shotgun. They kept her.

You would have to contact the hospital and ask them I guess - or possibly a lwayer or someone in law enforcement may be able to shed some light on this. I don't know exactly how they are able to do it but they can.

[Disco Man]

Deion and Drew are coaching him on what to say, it keeps getting pushed back. This guy is not worth it, anyone else see that ESPN reported that Deion stuck his head out the front door and shortly after it was reported that it would be another hour before he speaks.

[alkemical]

Neon's just an arrogant a-hole. I've always found something curiously self-destructive about TO. Clav's (formely Ames) posts really do describe a bipolar depression. Not that I find TO to be someone I'd like to meet or see on my fav team's roster. But, don't you think it's fair to say that with a qb like McNabb, TO could really have rewritten records given his talent? Something like 150 catches or something. Instead, he screws up and gets his attention that way.



I don't know how to really get people to understand the thinking processes bendog.

I hated myself so much i'd do things to to expidite death (smoking 3 packs a day, drinking a case of beer and a drinking a 1/5 of vodka and smoking 1/4z in one night, wake up sat. and do the same thing over again - then hating myself for being like that - so then i'd drink a case of beer, a bottle of booze and bunch of toke - rinse repeat - rinse repeat - rinse repeat

Get drunk at a party, hit on a girl - of course you are so out of it she blows you off - then you get upset - it lingers you then drink a case of beer, a bottle of booze a bunch of toke and then add a line of coke and two perkaset's -

[BroncoInferno]

A a person who has worked in PR professionally for the last 7 years, I can tell you that the original story is usually the most accurate. Once the PR people get ahold of the story, the only thing you're going to hear is a story that is in the 'best interest' of the client. It's possible that the police got it wrong, but I'm doubtful of that.

I guess we'll see. I don't think they generally let you leave the hospital this early if you attempt suidcide, but we'll just have to wait for the facts, I guess.

[Bronx33]

A a person who has worked in PR professionally for the last 7 years, I can tell you that the original story is usually the most accurate. Once the PR people get ahold of the story, the only thing you're going to hear is a story that is in the 'best interest' of the client. It's possible that the police got it wrong, but I'm doubtful of that.

I can tell you that one of the first tools in the PR toolbox is "the police got it wrong."


Cops tend to take stuff like that pretty serious and it looks like they did but i wouldn't put it past TOs PR dept to downplay this little episode, IMO the senerio points to TO poping to many pills.

[Disco Man]

This would have been great down at Dove Valley.

[Clockwork Orange]

Deion is probably just trying to convince him to write a book about it.

[BroncoInferno]

You're right. He's never done anything completely irrational before.


Put it in perspective, Slap. It's one thing to imply your QB choked in the Super Bowl, draw attention to yourself with controversial celebrations and comments, etc...it's something else altogether to fake a suicide attempt for media attention, especailly when you're already getting plenty.

[Disco Man]

Deion is probably just trying to convince him to write a book about it.

If he talks at this thing I'm going to puke

[-Slap-]

This was no suicide attempt. Even if it was, he's perfectly safe.

This idiot has been trying to assassinate his career for the last five years and he still hasn't gotten that right.

[bendog]

You're right. I'll go pretend to kill myself so people will like me again.

I still like ya slap, but TO could prolly do anythign and still have his teamates hate him. LOL

[Bronx33]

Deion and Drew are coaching him on what to say, it keeps getting pushed back. This guy is not worth it, anyone else see that ESPN reported that Deion stuck his head out the front door and shortly after it was reported that it would be another hour before he speaks.


How did the other idiot of the NFL get envolved in this? something is really fishy here next thing you know irvin will be coming out with a statemant.

[alkemical]

Swirling round with this familiar parable.
Spinning, weaving round each new experience.
Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this
Chance to be alive and breathing
Chance to be alive and breathing.

This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality.
Embrace this moment. remember. we are eternal.
All this pain is an illusion.



Sometimes Freak15 - hope is worse when you are depressed and hate yourself - or you hope for death....

[DarkHorse]

From answers.com

Suicide

The deliberate taking of one's own life.

Under common law, suicide, or the intentional taking of one's own life, was a felony that was punished by forfeiture of all the goods and chattels of the offender. Under modern U.S. law, suicide is no longer a crime. Some states, however, classify attempted suicide as a criminal act, but prosecutions are rare, especially when the offender is terminally ill. Instead, some jurisdictions require a person who attempts suicide to undergo temporary hospitalization and psychological observation. A person who causes the death of an innocent bystander or would-be rescuer while in the process of attempting suicide may be guilty of murder or manslaughter.

So, as a few of us have stated - while they may not hold you in Texas, in other states they will require a temporary stay in the hospital.

[Dagmar]

I honestly don't know why - that's just how it is here in Ohio. My mother in-law is bi-polar and flipped out attempting suicide with a 12 gauge shotgun. They kept her.

You would have to contact the hospital and ask them I guess - or possibly a lwayer or someone in law enforcement may be able to shed some light on this. I don't know exactly how they are able to do it but they can.

They can make the decision for you if they decide you are not mentally sound. This is often the case for people who do stupid stuff to themselves when they are drunk, high, whatever. They let you sober up and evaluate you and often let you go.

[bendog]

I just took 30 + Vicodin, but they were taken in a 8 day span for chronic pain. Im not sure what TO was taking, but Vics 750"s are like horse pills, its not like you can swallow a handful of 30 at one time. One is tough enough. Im not sure.. I don't think and seriously hope this was not a publicity stunt. But attempting to cash out isnt too good either.

If you really wanted to be my friend, YOU'D HAVE SHARED WITH ME

(-:

[Disco Man]

How did the other idiot of the NFL get envolved in this? something is really fishy here next thing you know irvin will be coming out with a statemant.

He has already been on ESPN this morning talking about this! He said he spoke with him 20 min before he was on and said that TO was doing fine.

[Bronx33]

He has already been on ESPN this morning talking about this! He said he spoke with him 20 min before he was on and said that TO was doing fine.


Iam going to guess TO was pretty hungry though. :spit:

[freak6]

Funny as hell when one person you know has taken that way out, even funnier when two people you know have done it. Funnier still when those two people are your dad and brother. Insensitive pricks.

Hey dbfan4life - I'm sorry about your losses.

[Sassy]

So how did the police get involved?
...and if he took 35 pills wouldn't his stomach have been pumped...

[bendog]

From answers.com

Suicide

The deliberate taking of one's own life.

Under common law, suicide, or the intentional taking of one's own life, was a felony that was punished by forfeiture of all the goods and chattels of the offender. Under modern U.S. law, suicide is no longer a crime. Some states, however, classify attempted suicide as a criminal act, but prosecutions are rare, especially when the offender is terminally ill. Instead, some jurisdictions require a person who attempts suicide to undergo temporary hospitalization and psychological observation. A person who causes the death of an innocent bystander or would-be rescuer while in the process of attempting suicide may be guilty of murder or manslaughter.

So, as a few of us have stated - while they may not hold you in Texas, in other states they will require a temporary stay in the hospital.

In Miss, a family member, or health care type, would have to file for committment to a psych facility. Then, assuming there's payment, the hospital would have to keep you untile there's a court hearing in .... 72 hours, which can be longer. If there's no payment, you might find yourself in some hellhole of a jail where'd you'd be raped by psychopaths and gang bangers.

Regardless, if TO were to go out and actually kill himslef tonight, I think the doc's insurance company would be slitting his and their own wrists. Prolly depends on how many pills TO really took. I nearly bought it once when I took a codine pill (before Vidocin) that was stronger than usual, and I had 3 Jack Daniels.

[Taco John]

I guess we'll see. I don't think they generally let you leave the hospital this early if you attempt suidcide, but we'll just have to wait for the facts, I guess.


Unless a person's publicist is threatening to sue if you keep their client in there against his will any longer after they've already greased the police report.

[bendog]

Unless a person's publicist is threatening to sue if you keep their client in there against his will any longer after they've already greased the police report.

yeah, that'd do it. Chances of getting sued by TO's estate would be less than getting sued by the publicist.

[Bronx33]

Why would the police report anything false? because they wouldn't.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2604395

Terrell owens will address the media at a 3:15 p.m. ET news conference outside the Cowboys' practice facility after an internal police report indicated he tried to kill himself by overdosing on prescription pain medication, even putting two more pills into his mouth after a friend intervened.

The Dallas police report said Owens was asked by rescue workers "if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time [he] stated, 'Yes.'"

Owens left the hospital late Wednesday morning, giving reporters a "thumbs up" but making no comment as he was driven away in an SUV.

ESPN's Michael Irvin said that Owens denied he attempted suicide and said he was rushed to the hospital as a result of an adverse reaction to medication. And a source close to Owens told ESPN.com's Michael A. Smith that Owens wasn't attempting suicide.

Publicist Kim Etheridge also said in various interviews Wednesday with Dallas-area media that the police have gotten the story wrong. She said she was with Owens, who was having trouble because he'd mixed his pain pills with supplements. She said she called for help because he was becoming unresponsive.

The police report said the 32-year-old Owens told his friend "that he was depressed." Details of the police report were first reported by WFAA-TV.

The friend, who is not identified in the report, "noticed that [his] prescription pain medication was empty and observed [Owens] putting two pills in his mouth," the police report said.

Using her fingers, the friend attempted to pry them out of Owens' mouth. Owens told police he had taken only five of the 40 pain pills in the bottle he'd emptied before the incident.


The friend mentioned in the report is Etheridge, according to reports. She told The Fort Worth Star-Telegram and The Dallas Morning News that reports of an attempted suicide were false.

Etheridge told the Star-Telegram that Owens was "fine."

Etheridge said she called 911 because Owens was groggy and lethargic. After taking some supplements "it kicked in a reaction" with the painkillers, she told the Star-Telegram.

"Here's a person whose body is so clean, it really had a negative reaction to the medication and supplements he was taking," Etheridge told The Morning News. "Thank goodness someone was there to call an ambulance."

Police Lt. Rick Watson said he could only confirm that paramedics called police to say they were taking Owens to the hospital. He said no more details would come from the police because no laws were broken.


It is not a crime in Texas for a person to attempt suicide.

"This is a high-profile person. We looked into it and we determined it is not a criminal offense," Watson said. "This a medical type of situation that occurred."

NFL Network analyst Deion Sanders said he spoke with Owens shortly before his release from the hospital and that Owens was in good spirits.

"The fact that it has been reported a suicide attempt, he's laughed at that notion. It was a case that medication that was taken wasn't accepted well in his system with the other vitamins he's on," Sanders said.

Watson and fire department spokesman Joel Lavender cited privacy laws for the lack of information they could provide. Lavender said more details could come from the 911 call. The Associated Press filed a request under the Freedom of Information Act to get the contents of the call.

"Let's just look at the tape, review the tape," Lavender said. "I'll give you an honest answer once I know something."

At the police news conference, Watson released a version of the police narrative with certain sections blacked out. The full report was obtained by several news outlets and reported first by WFAA. The AP received the full version from WFAA.

According to the police report, Dallas Fire and Rescue was called regarding someone "attempting suicide by prescription pain medication." Officers arrived to find Owens being stabilized by ambulance workers, who then took him to Baylor University Medical Center.

Owens was hospitalized late Tuesday because of what his publicist said was an allergic reaction to pain medicine he was taking for a broken hand. Doctors reportedly tried to induce vomiting.

Owens, one of the league's top receivers during his 11-year NFL career, is best known for wild stunts on the field and other publicity-seeking antics off it.

When the Cowboys signed him to a $25 million, three-year deal in March, they said their background checks indicated no red flags. In fact, team consultant Calvin Hill -- who mostly deals with troubled players -- said during training camp that his department was not involved with Owens because he didn't have a history of those kinds of problems.

He missed most of training camp, and three of four preseason games, because of a hamstring injury. He was late for work during his recovery and was fined for it, but Owens laughed it off, saying he overslept. He said it had happened before, though not with Dallas, and would probably happen again.

Owens broke the bone leading to his right ring finger during a game a week ago Sunday. The next day, doctors screwed in a plate so the bone could heal without fear of further damage. Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said last week that the pain medicine made Owens ill.

Owens had not practiced since the injury, but because Dallas had a bye this past weekend he did not miss a game. He was expected to practice Wednesday, and Parcells had said there was a chance Owens could play Sunday against Tennessee.

Owens had been especially looking forward to the Cowboys' game after that -- Oct. 8, in Philadelphia, against the team that dumped him midway through last season only months after he helped them nearly win the Super Bowl.

Owens was seen laughing and joking on the practice field Tuesday morning. He chatted briefly with reporters in the locker room in the afternoon and seemed fine. A 2-inch scar on the top of his hand was puffy but not wrapped, and he said the swelling was doing down.

While in the locker room, he took a pill from a white paper bag and looked at another medicine bottle that was in the bag. He also called a business partner about a towel-wrap venture they're starting and joked to TV cameras that he wasn't talking until Wednesday and it was only Tuesday.

"My little boy knows better than that," he said, laughing, as he plopped onto a sofa in the middle of the locker room.

Also Tuesday, Owens was involved in launching a national campaign for the National Alliance to End Abuse, an organization aimed at helping at-risk youngsters. He appeared at a high school Tuesday morning and was scheduled to visit others but had to cancel because of changes in the team's practice schedule.

Owens has played two games for the Cowboys, catching nine passes for 99 yards and a touchdown.

[DomCasual]

Funny as hell when one person you know has taken that way out, even funnier when two people you know have done it. Funnier still when those two people are your dad and brother. Insensitive pricks.

Edit: I hope that TO gets help fpr this and this is not just another stunt of his. Either way it's a cry for help. One attempt usually need to another unless something is done.

Dude, that's horrible. I can't imagine what that would be like. I hope you don't mess around with depression - considering how it appears there may be some genetic predisposition to it.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

So how did the police get involved?
...and if he took 35 pills wouldn't his stomach have been pumped...

The report I heard said that the police were called by the EMTs who were called to his house.

[Hulamau]

You know, I don't totally agree that we can't have sympathy for him because I think he's a distrubed man in many ways and needs professional help, but you made some good points here. People who commit suicide usually do it. Taking painkillers over a spread out period of time isn't the best way to take your own life, nor do you take those pills in front of someone else knowing they are going to see you doing it. So far we only have someone witnessing him taking two pills as it is. I'd be curious where this goes from here.

I'm sure TO is depressed, though. You can't make the decissions that you've made and keep estranging yourself from all your friends and expect to be happy. Maybe this will teach him something about life and he'll become a decent person.


And let's just be glad we got Javon Walker.

Amen to our good fortune at getting Walker instead!

And yes, TO no doubt will learn something valuable from the whole experience. A close brush with the utterly transient nature of life, even if he wasn't in serious danger, is often a real eye opener for anyone, not to mention for a young and healthy egocentric drama Queen who no doubt presumes he is immortal. The continuing saga of TO, I just hope it isnt a slow motion train wreak in the making[/QUOTE]

[gadlaw]

You're right. I'll go pretend to kill myself so people will like me again.

Will there be a YouTube link for that? Hilarious!

[broncosteven]

Funny as hell when one person you know has taken that way out, even funnier when two people you know have done it. Funnier still when those two people are your dad and brother. Insensitive pricks.

Edit: I hope that TO gets help fpr this and this is not just another stunt of his. Either way it's a cry for help. One attempt usually need to another unless something is done.

Sorry for your loss.

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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/53511.48OWENS-SURGERY.sff.jpg

"I got to kill me, some me!"

[Dagmar]

Everyone hates TO but the mane can't handle the number of people looking to read/comment about it.

[gadlaw]

I just took 30 + Vicodin, but they were taken in a 8 day span for chronic pain. Im not sure what TO was taking, but Vics 750"s are like horse pills, its not like you can swallow a handful of 30 at one time. One is tough enough. Im not sure.. I don't think and seriously hope this was not a publicity stunt. But attempting to cash out isnt too good either.

Thank you. 30 Vicodin in 8 days, no pills left in TO's bottle of 40 for about the same period of time. Sounds normal to me, although, I did break a finger once at the gym, they gave me Vicodin and I never took them. Looks like your vicodin use will vary.

[gadlaw]

Getting ready to go live now with the news conference.

[Barry Ramey]

Seems odd for the police to say Owens said he was trying to hurt himself if he never really said that, which we may never know the truth in that either way. But what would be the reason for the police and/or EMT's to make that up?

[Bronx33]

Seems odd for the police to say Owens said he was trying to hurt himself if he never really said that, which we may never know the truth in that either way. But what would be the reason for the police and/or EMT's to make that up?


Exactly.......

[Taco John]

Seems odd for the police to say Owens said he was trying to hurt himself if he never really said that, which we may never know the truth in that either way. But what would be the reason for the police and/or EMT's to make that up?


Clearly it's because they hate TO.

[Bronx33]

Clearly it's because they hate TO.


The local police and EMTs hate the local professional football team (it's a known fact) ROFL!

[Bronx33]

Poor parcels in the press room already.......