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enjolras
09-23-2006, 02:06 AM
Saudi officials are convinced Bin laden has died in Pakistan from typhoid. It appears that god may have beaten us to the punch.

Lets hope its true.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14963302/

BroncoBuff
09-23-2006, 05:22 AM
Well, SOMETHING had to eventually kill him. Lord knows Bushco gave up ...

Bronco_Beerslug
09-23-2006, 05:54 AM
The French got this from the Saudis? Maybe it's true but we've heard this stuff before

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Typhoid fever (or enteric fever) is an illness caused by the bacterium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterium) Salmonella Typhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmonella_typhi). Common worldwide, it is transmitted by ingestion of food or water contaminated with feces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feces) from an infected person.<sup id="_ref-Baron_0" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid#_note-Baron)</sup> The bacteria then multiply in the blood stream of the infected person and are absorbed into the digestive tract and eliminated with the waste.

Typhoid fever can be fatal. Antibiotics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotics), such as ampicillin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampicillin), chloramphenicol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramphenicol), trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole), and ciprofloxacin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin), have been commonly used to treat typhoid fever in developed countries. Prompt treatment of the disease with antibiotics reduces the case-fatality rate to approximately 1%. Usage of Ofloxacin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofloxacin) along with Lactobacillus acidophilus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus_acidophilus) is also recommended.
When untreated, typhoid fever persists for three weeks to a month. Death occurs in between 10% and 30% of untreated cases. Vaccines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine) for typhoid fever are available and are advised for persons traveling in regions where the disease is common (especially Asia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia), Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa) and Latin America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_America)). Typhim Vi (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Typhim_Vi&action=edit) is an intramuscular killed-bacteria vaccination and Vivotif (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vivotif&action=edit) is an oral live bacteria vaccination, both of which protect against typhoid fever. Neither vaccine is 100% effective against typhoid fever and neither protects against unrelated typhus.

After infection, symptoms include:
a high fever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fever) from 39 °C to 40 °C (103 °F to 104 °F) that rises slowly
chills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chills)
bradycardia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradycardia) (slow heart rate)
weakness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weakness_%28medical%29)
diarrhea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diarrhea)
headaches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headaches)
myalgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgia) (muscle pain), not to be confused with the more severe muscle pain in Dengue fever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengue_fever), known as "Breakbone fever."
lack of appetite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack_of_appetite)
constipation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constipation)
stomach pains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stomach_pains)
in some cases, a rash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rash) of flat, rose-colored spots called "rose spots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_spots)"
in some cases, loss of hair resulting from the prolonged high fever
extreme symptoms such as intestinal perforation or hemorrhage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorrhage), delusions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion) and confusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confusion) are also possible.While flying insects feeding on feces may occasionally transfer the bacteria to food being prepared for consumption, the disease is most commonly transmitted through poor hygiene habits and public sanitation conditions. Public education campaigns encouraging people to wash their hands after toileting and before handling food are an important component in controlling spread of the disease.
A person may become an asymptomatic carrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptomatic_carrier) of typhoid fever, suffering no symptoms, but capable of infecting others. According to the Centers for Disease Control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control) approximately 5% of people who contract typhoid continue to carry the disease after they recover.
The most notorious carrier of typhoid fever, but by no means the most destructive, was Mary Mallon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon), also known as Typhoid Mary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary). In 1907 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1907) she became the first American carrier to be identified and traced. She was a cook in New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York) at the beginning of the 20th Century. Some believe she was the source of infection for several hundred people. She is closely associated with fifty cases and five deaths. Public health authorities told Mary to give up working as a cook or have her gall bladder removed. Mary quit her job, but returned later under a false name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonym). She was detained and quarantined after another typhoid outbreak. She died of a stroke after 26 years in quarantine.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid

Atlas
09-23-2006, 06:33 AM
France looks into bin Laden death report

By ELAINE GANLEY, Associated Press Writer
20 minutes ago

SoCals link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060923/ap_on_re_mi_ea/france_bin_laden_report

PARIS - President Jacques Chirac said Saturday that information contained in a leaked intelligence document raising the possibility that Osama bin Laden may have died of typhoid in Pakistan last month is "in no way whatsoever confirmed."

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Chirac said he was "a bit surprised" at the leak and has asked Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to probe how a document from a French foreign intelligence service was published in the French press.

The regional newspaper l'Est Republicain on Saturday printed what it described as a copy of a confidential document from the DGSE intelligence service citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that the leader of the al-Qaida terror network had died.

The DGSE transmitted the document, dated Sept. 21 or Thursday, to Chirac and other top French officials, the newspaper said.

"This information is in no way whatsoever confirmed," Chirac said Saturday when asked about the document. "I have no comment."

In Washington, CIA duty officer Paul Gimigliano said he could not confirm the DGSE report.

The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the Internet.

"We've seen nothing from any al-Qaida messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Osama bin Laden," IntelCenter director Ben N. Venzke told The Associated Press.

Al-Qaida would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

"They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it," he said.

The last time the IntelCenter says it could be sure bin Laden was alive was June 29, when al-Qaida released an audiotape in which the terror leader eulogized the death of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq earlier that month.

Chirac spoke at a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France, where the leaders were holding a summit.

Putin suggested that leaks can be ways to manipulate. "When there are leaks ... one can say that (they) were done especially."

Earlier the French defense ministry said it was opening an investigation into the leak.

"The information diffused this morning by the l'Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed," a Defense Ministry statement said.

The DGSE, or Direction Generale des Services Exterieurs, indicated that its information came from a single source.

"According to a reliable source, Saudi security services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," said the intelligence report.

There have been periodic reports of bin Laden's illness or death in recent years but none has been proven accurate.

According to this report, Saudi security services were pursuing further details, notably the place of his burial.

"The chief of al-Qaida was a victim of a severe typhoid crisis while in Pakistan on August 23, 2006," the document says. His geographic isolation meant that medical assistance was impossible, the French report said, adding that his lower limbs were allegedly paralyzed.

The report further said Saudi security services had their first information on bin Laden's alleged death on Sept. 4.

In Pakistan, a senior official of that country's top spy agency, the ISI or Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence, said he had no information to confirm bin Laden's whereabouts or that he might be dead. The official said he believed the report could be fabricated. The official was not authorized to speak publicly on the topic and spoke on condition of anonymity.

U.S. Embassy officials in Pakistan and Afghanistan also said they could not confirm the French report.

Gen. Henri Bentegeat, the French army chief of staff, said in a radio debate last Sunday that bin Laden's fate remained a mystery.

"Today, bin Laden is certainly not in Afghanistan," Bentegeat said. "No one is completely certain that he is even alive."

Atlas
09-23-2006, 06:34 AM
Well, SOMETHING had to eventually kill him. Lord knows Bushco gave up ...

It was all part of Bush's plan. Either typhoid or old age. Bush just knew that sooner or later Bin Laden would die. I guess he was right.

SteveTensi13
09-23-2006, 08:52 AM
Until I see his head on a platter I seriously doubt it.

Rohirrim
09-23-2006, 09:15 AM
I guess we'll see.

Bronx33
09-23-2006, 11:32 AM
Osama is related to morris the cat i think, but hopefully the pile of shyt died slow and painful.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-23-2006, 05:18 PM
Rove is probably already working on a way to give Bush credit and to use this turn of events to further enhance Dim Son's image as a big, tough "war president."

Bronx33
09-23-2006, 08:10 PM
Can you get through one freaking post without referencing bush?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-24-2006, 12:21 AM
Can you get through one freaking post without referencing bush?

Aww, am I picking on your beloved ExxonMobil sock puppet again?

And on a "war, religion, and politics" forum, no less!

Oh, the humanity.

W*GS
09-24-2006, 09:17 AM
Can you get through one freaking post without referencing bush?

No, LABF cannot.

Bronx33
09-24-2006, 11:02 AM
Aww, am I picking on your beloved ExxonMobil sock puppet again?

And on a "war, religion, and politics" forum, no less!

Oh, the humanity.


Not my boy for the 80th time but seriously don't you thinks it's getting a little old and sad?

Crushaholic
09-24-2006, 02:57 PM
I hope it's true. However, I think he started becoming irrelevant some time ago...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-24-2006, 04:55 PM
Not my boy for the 80th time but seriously don't you thinks it's getting a little old and sad?

The only thing that's getting "old and sad" is your anti-American "don't criticize the president" message.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

- Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.quotedb.com/images/authors/theodore_roosevelt.jpg

defenseman
09-25-2006, 09:02 AM
The only thing that's getting "old and sad" is your anti-American "don't criticize the president" message.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

- Theodore Roosevelt
http://www.quotedb.com/images/authors/theodore_roosevelt.jpg

You continue to fill the coffers of the conservatives with your leftists dribble. I'd be looking for employment with the republicans, I'm sure they'd pay you hansomely for recruiting efforts on their own behalf...dman

TailgateNut
09-25-2006, 09:25 AM
Rove is probably already working on a way to give Bush credit and to use this turn of events to further enhance Dim Son's image as a big, tough "war president."


Knowing the SOP of the current Idiot in charge, he'll dig him up, put a bullet in his forehead, and then tell us he caught him.
Then all of his followers (Tensi, Wogs,Dbrule) will stand and cheer!

bendog
09-25-2006, 09:31 AM
October SURPRISE.

Bronco_Beerslug
09-25-2006, 10:07 AM
I hope it's true. However, I think he started becoming irrelevant some time ago...Of course he has (isn't that what Bush said?), he's only the guy that attacked America and killed 3,000 people. It doesn't get much more irrelevant than that.

defenseman
09-25-2006, 11:53 AM
Knowing the SOP of the current Idiot in charge, he'll dig him up, put a bullet in his forehead, and then tell us he caught him.
Then all of his followers (Tensi, Wogs,Dbrule) will stand and cheer!

Let's hope not. Dead by disease suits me fine. As long as the SOB is D-E-A-D, dead.......dman

*there was a movie out of "choreographing" a war? Deniro? Wag the dog?....don't think the GOP is stupid enough to take credit for death by disease...then again...they do have a few folks whose mental capacity I question...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-25-2006, 06:22 PM
You continue to fill the coffers of the conservatives with your leftists dribble. I'd be looking for employment with the republicans, I'm sure they'd pay you hansomely for recruiting efforts on their own behalf...dman

You might consider employment with the DNC for the same reasons.

It's people who think like you who are responsible for the fact that the GOP is circling the drain right now.

SteveTensi13
09-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Can't wait for a democrat to take office. Then what will LABF do? His life will cease to have meaning and he may commit suicide! On the plus side, I can become the conservative version of LABF and spam the **** out of this forum with anti President (fill in the name)!

TailgateNut
09-27-2006, 07:55 AM
Can't wait for a democrat to take office. Then what will LABF do? His life will cease to have meaning and he may commit suicide! On the plus side, I can become the conservative version of LABF and spam the **** out of this forum with anti President (fill in the name)!

I can't wait until we have someone in office who truly cares about this country!

As far as you becoming the conservitive equivalent of LABF, what a joke. Go eat you donut.

alkemical
09-27-2006, 08:26 AM
I think OBL was a jim henson creation.