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baja
09-22-2006, 10:39 AM
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<b>Richard Nixon authorized the Watergate burglary and subsequent cover-up to advance his own political ambitions. Because Nixon's lies were done for the craven purpose of getting and holding political power, his lies - in the minds of the majority of the members of Congress - were elevated to the level of impeachable "high crimes and misdemeanors."

Bill Clinton had sex in the White House with Monica Lewinsky, but Congress concluded he'd lied about it to maintain political power. Another impeachable crime.

The real scandal of the Downing Street Memos, with the greatest potential to leave the Bush presidency in permanent disgrace, is their implication that lies may have been put forward to help Bush, Republicans, and Blair politically. If Bush lied to gain and keep political power, precedent suggests he and his collaborators in the administration may even be vulnerable to impeachment.

Conservatives say the Bush claims of WMD and "mushroom clouds" were a "lie of ignorance." Condoleezza Rice periodically does the talk-show circuit and repeats the "lie of ignorance" myth. "The entire world thought Saddam had WMD," she and other Bush representatives suggest over and over again. "We had bad intelligence."

This is a lie to cover up a more damaging lie. "The entire world" was, in fact, watching and listening to Hans Blix, who was telling us that he couldn't find any evidence of WMD - or any other sort of threat - in Iraq. Most of our allies were convinced that Saddam did not have WMD, or that if he did have some small stockpiles left they were so insignificant and degraded that they were irrelevant. This is why the only permanent member of the UN Security Council to join us in attacking Iraq was Blair's UK: China, France, and Russia didn't believe Iraq represented a threat to them, to us, or even to its neighbors.

Nonetheless, Bush keeps trying to push this lie-to-cover-up-a-lie. In his June 19, 2005 radio address, he suggested that the Saudis who flew the planes into the World Trade Center were actually Iraqis. "We went to war because we were attacked," he said, hoping Americans' memories are short.

US media pundits, knowing the "WMD lie" and the "Saddam attacked us" lie for what they are, mostly suggest that Bush's use of WMD and terrorism to justify invading Iraq was a "lie of convenience." The implicit assumption is that Bush did this because of a "greater good"; that even though he lied, he was doing so to advance America's interests. This helps pundits to feel like they're part of an in-crowd elite who know what's best for America, even if they can't tell the children - er - citizens.

The "lie of convenience" is based on the neocon argument that the US needed a "footprint" in the Middle East to both secure our oil supplies and provide military security to Israel. But it ignores the many nations in the region where we now have military bases (some huge), the power and ability of our navy, and the power of Israel's military. And it doesn't explain how our getting bogged down in Iraq could possibly advance our interests at home or around the world.

Often included in the "lie of convenience" mix is the PNAC suggestion that for America to be safe, we must forcefully project military power all over the world and hold decisive control of the world's largest oil supplies. This flies in the face of most of America's history, starting with George Washington's farewell address warning against "foreign entanglements." It's not only un-American, but is the assumption used throughout history to justify empires, and in every single case has ended up bleeding dry those empires, consigning them to painful contraction or total collapse.

And neither the "lie of convenience" nor the "lie of ignorance" were demonstrably the reasons why Bush invaded Iraq.

So why then did George W. Bush lie us into invading and occupying Iraq?

We know that Bush wanted to massively cut taxes on his corporate sponsors and people, like himself, with substantial inherited fortunes. He wanted to weaken government protections of the environment, children, the poor, the elderly, the ozone layer, and our nation's forests. He wanted his oil-rig and mining-interest friends to have more access to public lands.

We know he wanted to undo Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal by stripping the American workplace (particularly government and schools) of unions, rolling back "socialist" unemployment and Social Security programs, and eliminating SEC and tort restraints on predatory corporate behavior. He'd even campaigned on this platform - particularly Social Security privatization - back in 1978 when he unsuccessfully ran for Congress from Texas.

We know he wanted to increase the police power of the federal government, gut the First and Fourth Amendments, and thus create a "safe and orderly nation" of people under constant surveillance, who never question those in power.

We know he wanted to give billions of our tax dollars to churches he approved of, and bring their leaders into the halls of government. He wanted to pass laws incorporating religious dogma about when human life begins, what is appropriate sexuality, and free churches to use tax-exempt dollars to influence politics.

It was an ambitious agenda. In order to bring about this neoconservative paradise, Bush knew he'd need considerable political capital. And that kind of capital didn't come from his being selected as President by the Supreme Court.

Such political capital - such raw political power - would only come, he believed, by his becoming a "war president."

Bush wasn't the first to realize how war strengthened a president in power, although the Founders saw it as a danger rather than an opportunity.

On April 20, 1795, James Madison wrote, "Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few."

Reflecting on war's impact on the Executive Branch of government, Madison continued his letter about the dangerous and intoxicating power of war for a president.

"In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive [President] is extended," he wrote. "Its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war...and in the degeneracy of manners and morals, engendered by both.

"No nation," he concluded, "could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

But freedom wasn't the goal of George W. Bush or his neoconservative Republican colleagues. It was political power. And they were willing to lie us into a war to achieve it.

Writer Russ Baker noted in October, 2004, that Mickey Herskowitz, the man Bush had originally hired to write his autobiography ("A Charge To Keep: My Journey To The White House"), told Baker that George Bush was planning his Iraq invasion - to seize and hold political power for himself and the Republican Party - during his first presidential election campaign.

"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," Herskowitz told Baker. "It was on his mind. He [Bush] said to me: 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He said, 'If I have a chance to invade, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."

Bush lied, and Americans died. And continue to die. But politically - at least so far - it has worked out well for Bush.

It was a lie of political expediency, with the war resolution carefully timed just before the 2002 elections to help the Republicans take back the Senate.

It was echoed and amplified and repeated over and over again to help him and other Republicans get elected in 2004.

It wasn't a war for oil - cheap oil was just a useful secondary benefit.

It wasn't a war against terrorism - that was just a convenient excuse.

It wasn't a war to enrich Bush's and Cheney's cronies - those were just pleasant by-products.

It wasn't a war to show Poppy Bush that Junior was more of a man than him - that was just a personal bonus for Dubya.

It was, pure and simple, well planned years in advance, a war to solidify Bush and the Republican Party's political capital.

It was a war for political power. That had to be first. Everything else - oil, profits, ongoing PATRIOT Act powers, easy manipulation of the media - all could only come if political power was seized and held through at least two decisive election cycles.

The Bush administration lied us into an invasion to get and keep political power. It's that simple.

The same reason Richard Nixon authorized Watergate and then lied about the cover-up. The same reason Nixon lied about his "secret plan" to get out of Vietnam.

When Americans - and the US media - finally realize that Bush's lie was just to get "political capital," to increase the "discretionary power of the President" so he could undo Roosevelt's New Deal and seal power across all three branches of government for his Party, they will turn on him and his Republican co-conspirators.

If it comes out in the open before the election of 2006, Republicans could even lose the House and the Senate, which would virtually guarantee investigations of the many other crimes of the Bush administration. (For example, "bribery" is one of two crimes cited in the Constitution as grounds for impeachment - and the Big Pharma/Medicaid and Big Tobacco/lawsuit settlement cases may qualify.)

Probably the only two things that could slow down the American electorate's growing realization of the magnitude and horror of Bush's political lies would be another attack on America or a new Bush-led war into Syria, Iran, or North Korea.

Bush has already shown, by lying us into Iraq, that he's at least capable of the latter. As Jefferson wrote in a letter to James Madison on February 8th 1776, "It should ever be held in mind that insult and war are the consequences of a lack of respectability in the national character."

And already the cons are working the talk-show circuit, threatening the US with a new attack, and recommending we strike now at Iran or Syria. "Be afraid. Be aggressive. Give us more political power."

But if Jefferson was right when he said that the best defense of democracy was an informed electorate, there is still a small window of opportunity for the American press to do the job they've been so carefully avoiding these past five years.

Instead of just reporting that the Downing Street Minutes and memos exist, they can highlight them against the timeline of Bush repeatedly lying during those days before the war. They can quote him saying that he had no plans for war, was working toward peace, and only wanted Congressional authorization to avoid a war, and point out that this was all after - months after - his administration had told the British that war was a sure thing.

Lying, in other words, to get us to go along with an invasion that would cement in Republican control of the Congress and the White House, and, thus, also the courts. Lying for nothing more than "political capital."

Let us hope our Fourth Estate is up to the task.

- Thom Hartmann

http://www.commondreams.org

baja
09-22-2006, 10:42 AM
This is a very well written article please take the time to read it and comment...

Crushaholic
09-22-2006, 10:55 AM
If he was just in Iraq to build up "political capital", he would have withdrawn the troops a long time ago...like when we captured Hussein. He feels that we are doing a good thing by changing the face of Iraq, even if polls show people think this is a "quagmire". It's a good theory, but very flawed...

Rohirrim
09-22-2006, 11:04 AM
I think it's dead-on about the press. The press in this country has been defanged and bought out. Like the article that LABF posted from the Solitablog (or whatever it was) all of these press bigwigs, and their corporate owners, spend most of their time wining and dining amongst the same political elite they are supposed to report on. Somewhere along the line, some smart political operative said, "Hey, instead of holding the press out in the cold, let's invite them to the party."

bendog
09-22-2006, 11:19 AM
If he was just in Iraq to build up "political capital", he would have withdrawn the troops a long time ago...like when we captured Hussein. He feels that we are doing a good thing by changing the face of Iraq, even if polls show people think this is a "quagmire". It's a good theory, but very flawed...


Not necessarily. Bushii also has an almost pathological inabilty for self-anaylsis and admitting mistakes, and changing course. Very dry drunk behavior, btw. He misunderstood the sunni shiaa hatred, misread that there was still a pro-capitalist middle class that could rule, rather than a growing theocratic group amongst both sects.

alkemical
09-22-2006, 12:22 PM
I think it's dead-on about the press. The press in this country has been defanged and bought out. Like the article that LABF posted from the Solitablog (or whatever it was) all of these press bigwigs, and their corporate owners, spend most of their time wining and dining amongst the same political elite they are supposed to report on. Somewhere along the line, some smart political operative said, "Hey, instead of holding the press out in the cold, let's invite them to the party."


agreed.

BKK
09-22-2006, 12:27 PM
Why the hell not?

Hotrod
09-22-2006, 12:29 PM
He did it for his Daddys honor..................

alkemical
09-22-2006, 12:32 PM
that's where waldo was? ;)

alkemical
09-22-2006, 12:44 PM
what i see from reading history is some of the following:

This current "war" that we are in - is endless - like the war on drugs. The model we are using to fight the war is old and will not succeed any more so than the former. This war in some ways is political like vietnam, but it also has undertones to WWII. I don't think there is a simple and easy comparison to draw upon this.

The reason for an endless war can be taken into several accounts:

A) Fear makes a population mallible.

B) War is good business

C) We are meeting global competition on a political level with force, and not a level of intelligence.

D) We really are being decieved by most everyone and everything, because if we aren't convinced and there is doubt, we become an expendible item for those in power.

Those are just for starters at least from a point of my perspective on friday afternoon.

SPfloppy
09-22-2006, 12:51 PM
Probabily many reasons as well as excuses flooded his mind and lead to him thinking this was an easy one that would show the world how big our d1^k was. It like a mine on a sidewalk blew up in his face.

bendog
09-22-2006, 01:15 PM
I think it's dead-on about the press. The press in this country has been defanged and bought out. Like the article that LABF posted from the Solitablog (or whatever it was) all of these press bigwigs, and their corporate owners, spend most of their time wining and dining amongst the same political elite they are supposed to report on. Somewhere along the line, some smart political operative said, "Hey, instead of holding the press out in the cold, let's invite them to the party."

I think it's less organized than that. When Edward R Murrow and then huntley brinkley and then Cronkite, the reporters were the stars. Any attempt by the corp masters to really censor them wouldn't have worked, cause they'd walk. There was a line, of course. Murrow wouldn't have dared expose the Klan. Nobody wanted to know. And today something like FDR's paralysis would be exposed, along with Truman and his mother in law.

NBC was always the voice of upper middle class white collar corportate America. You watched NBC and read Time Magazine. CBS left leaning. ABC, struggling to entertain. Life magazine.

But I cannot see how the corp masters would've told Murrow to stop reporting on the blitz. The Marine Corp would never have had the stones to mess with Ernie Pyle.

It seems pretty clear to me that somewhere along the line the network and cable outlets learned when the consumers hear what they want, they react better to the advertising. I don't know that it was tied directly to cable, but it coincided with CNN coming around.

With Iraq it was wierd. There was this surge of nationalism. "Tell Saddam the US Marine Corp is coming and bring Hell with it." The rationality of the war was irrelevant. I remember those idiot commercials with Cliff Robertson, and all the two story bungalos painted and how 9-11 'brought us together.' Ironically, Robertson lost work cause of his objection the vietnam war.

Before 9-11 there was plenty of criticism of bush. His polls were tanking. After 9-11, no criticism of him was reported. Nothing critical of the US, either.

With Monica and Bill, the RR was saying "why won't they report this on TV?" The answer was, the media tried it on focus groups, and nobody cared, and the focus groups reacted negatively to even hearing about it. Then, after the House actaully started impeaching, the media had to carry it. The gop literally forced bill's bj down our throats. Bill's poll numbers never changed. It simply wasn't news.

Now with Iraq being obviously a qWagmire, no bin laden on a pike, continuing terror scares, and domestic issues that bushii ignores or exacerbates, questioning is ok. Dean said in the primaries "bushii lied to invade iraq for political purposes." That's what his meltdown was: questioning the all knowing nationalism. After that, he was tagged as a qwack, and they found a way to report it. Then Kerry pushed it a little more, questioning whether we were being effective, while trying to pose as the hero who didn't protest. Now polls show sizeable groups saying bushii lied, and while it's about 50-50 on whether the whole thing was a mistake, most people agree bushii isn't making progress.

Bronx33
09-22-2006, 02:30 PM
A shot at getting in the middle east backyard and he made up reason to do it not justifing it but i think what we all be doing if we never went over there and would we the fixing and dealing with another major attack? or to put it another way eat and swallow 9/11 admitting defeat and see what happens?


your thoughts?

bendog
09-22-2006, 02:43 PM
It's not exactly showing muslims that bin laden is wrong about the US's intentions towards nations inhabited by muslims.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-22-2006, 07:47 PM
If he was just in Iraq to build up "political capital", he would have withdrawn the troops a long time ago...like when we captured Hussein. He feels that we are doing a good thing by changing the face of Iraq, even if polls show people think this is a "quagmire". It's a good theory, but very flawed...

Wrong.

He didn't argue that "political capital" was the only reason Bush invaded Iraq - just the primary reason.

baja
09-22-2006, 11:28 PM
It's not exactly showing muslims that bin laden is wrong about the US's intentions towards nations inhabited by muslims.

AIN'T THAT THE FUUCKING TRUTH... and the Muslims are not the only ones taking notice.

Bush and his arrogant policies have pretty much turned the world against the US of A.

BroncoBuff
09-23-2006, 08:37 PM
That Thom Hartmann is GOLD! Best talk show host anywhere on the air, imo. Incredible in-depth historical insights


He's an AirAmerica host based in Portland, OR ...

http://www.airamerica.com/thomhartmannpage
www.thomhartmann.com/ (http://www.thomhartmann.com/)

BroncoBuff
09-23-2006, 08:39 PM
Wrong.

He didn't argue that "political capital" was the only reason Bush invaded Iraq - just the primary reason.

And a reason sufficient to constitute "high crimes and misdemeanors."

Prollem is - Cheney is next in line. Impeachment? :oyvey: no way ....

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-24-2006, 12:38 AM
And a reason sufficient to constitute "high crimes and misdemeanors."

Prollem is - Cheney is next in line. Impeachment? :oyvey: no way ....

The ideal scenario would be to impeach both Smirk and Dick.

God knows there are enough high crimes and misdemeanors to go around.

Then, if the Dems retake the House, we don't have to worry about "Predident Hastert." (Shudder!)

Traveler
09-25-2006, 07:52 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-gitlin23sep23,0,520903.story?track=tottext

Renouncing Bush's Failures Is a Start
By Todd Gitlin
The Los Angeles Times

Saturday 23 September 2006


The president's onetime lapdogs should also rethink the extremist ideology that got us here.

In recent month, Republicans have begun to discover that their leader is not the paragon they once thought he was.

Perhaps he is not a conservative at all but a deficit-mongering big-government advocate, a world-changing radical in disguise and a cultivator of global anti-Americanism. Perhaps, from Baghdad to Kabul to New Orleans, bungling is not the exception but the rule because he and his inner circle hold planning, the law, diplomacy and even reason in contempt.

Suddenly, Republicans as well as Democrats are urging the defenestration of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld - the Titanic chair-shifter's way of acknowledging a fiasco in Iraq. George Will savaged President Bush for a "triumph of unrealism." Embattled Connecticut Republican Rep. Christopher Shays lurched from "stay the course" to "phased withdrawal."

Just last month, conservative talk-show host Joe Scarborough asked, "Is Bush an Idiot?" In May, the popular right-wing KABC-AM (790) talk-show host Doug McIntyre declared: "I was wrong to have voted for George W. Bush…. I have been shocked repeatedly by a consistent litany of excuses, alibis, doubletalk, inaccuracies, bogus predictions and flat-out lies…. After five years of carefully watching George W. Bush, I've reached the conclusion he's either grossly incompetent or a hand-puppet for a gaggle of detached theorists with their own private view of how the world works. Or both."

Such reconsiderations are all to the good, and not only for the practical purpose of evacuating a sinking ship. The recantation mood is a sign of maturity.

But apologies, while worthy, are never enough. To help make right what has gone badly wrong, they also must lead to rethinking.

Because 1930s analogies are back in vogue, consider that it was incumbent upon conservatives who were dismayed by Neville Chamberlain at Munich in 1938 to inquire into the worldview that led him to appease Adolf Hitler. Likewise, as conservatives never cease to remind those on the left, it was perfectly reasonable to tell the Soviet Union's fellow travelers to examine the fantastical credulity with which they persuaded themselves to overlook the depredations of Lenin and Stalin. To learn from our greatest misconceptions is, of course, a prime reason we study history.

So what lessons should Bush's partisans take from his decline? Where did they go wrong when they were cheering Bush, excoriating his adversaries and devoutly assuring the rest of us that he was, as former presidential speechwriter David Frum put it in an unabashed double entendre, "the right man"?

They're obliged to have to figure it out on their own. But let me offer this for their consideration: The core of the Bush problem is an extremist worldview. Bush's aggressive go-it-alone attitude kicked in long before 9/11. "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists" was just an extension of Bush's rejection of the Kyoto Protocol (the international global warming agreement) and the International Criminal Court.

Under Bush, reality had to be bulldozed into submission. Whatever went wrong in Iraq or Afghanistan, questioning Bush's narrow understanding of the Islamist danger amounted to appeasement, cutting and running, pining for defeat. Whatever the economic conditions, the remedies were privatization, deregulation and tax cuts for plutocrats. On every front, foreign and domestic, liberals were to blame.

This attitude didn't stop with Bush alone, and it persists unaltered. Just recently, in this spirit, an e-mail from Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman warned that Democratic victories in the midterm elections would mean "government by the far left," "weaken[ing] America" thus: "Impeachment. Cutting and running from the war on terror. Key defense systems dismantled. Tax cuts repealed. Speaker Pelosi."

The logic of this paranoid worldview is a deep and awful thing to confront. But confronting it is a matter of intellectual honesty.

Today, it's morally mandatory, a matter of intellectual decency, that Bush's erstwhile partisans rethink both their credulity and their ideology and ask how they could for so long have overlooked what now strikes them as obvious. "Whoops, sorry about that" and "mistakes were made" - love that passive voice - won't do.

freak6
09-25-2006, 09:47 AM
I am not going to go to Officer Candidate School, and am not going to reenlist in the Marine Corps because of this administration, and the fools that tell my Marines where to fight.

The American public is getting what they voted for. Or not, Diebold, fkn Ohio BS, fkn Florida non-recount POS "Supreme" court.

Rohirrim
09-25-2006, 10:59 AM
Chairman Ken Mehlman warned that Democratic victories in the midterm elections would mean "government by the far left," "weaken[ing] America" thus: "Impeachment. Cutting and running from the war on terror. Key defense systems dismantled. Tax cuts repealed. Speaker Pelosi."

IMO, this guy is one of the biggest slimes I've ever seen in American politics.

W*GS
09-25-2006, 11:23 AM
Why did George W Bush attack Iraq?

Because he's an idiot.

Traveler
09-25-2006, 11:35 AM
Why did George W Bush attack Iraq?

Because he's an idiot.

On this we can agree!^5

alkemical
09-25-2006, 12:46 PM
Why did George W Bush attack Iraq?

A:) The chicken was on the other side

bendog
09-25-2006, 01:43 PM
IMO, this guy is one of the biggest slimes I've ever seen in American politics.

I don't know. Bennie Thompson could be chariman of the homeland security committee and John Conyers of Judiciary. But yeah, he's a slime.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-25-2006, 06:12 PM
Why did George W Bush attack Iraq?

Because he's an idiot.

No argument there, but if Bush is an "idiot," then why have you spent the last six years tenaciously defending his every move (including his invasion of Iraq?)

baja
09-25-2006, 10:11 PM
Why did George W Bush attack Iraq?

Because he's an idiot.

If only it were that simple.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-25-2006, 11:42 PM
If only it were that simple.

You're right.

Bush is an idiot, but the people who pull his strings are not.

W*GS
09-26-2006, 07:51 AM
No argument there, but if Bush is an "idiot," then why have you spent the last six years tenaciously defending his every move (including his invasion of Iraq?)

:bs: