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spdirty
09-21-2006, 05:46 PM
Good for them for standing up and speaking out. I needed that after the oil spicket dictator came here and spewed his garbage and the president, like the weakling he is, "wouldn't dignify it with a response." Im really getting sick of this guy and his "above the fray" crap. America deserves better Mr. Bush!!!!! Stand up for yourself for once in your life!!!! Be a man!!!!! ****ing elitists.

Anyway, here's the links and all that.

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny15_rangel/CBRStatementChavezUNspeech09212006.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
September 21, 2006 Contact: Emile Milne
(202) 225-4365

CONG. RANGEL CONDEMNS CHAVEZ'S ATTACK ON BUSH
WASHINGTON - I want to express my extreme displeasure with statements by the President of Venezuela attacking U.S. President George Bush in such a personal and disparaging way during his remarks at the United Nations General Assembly.

It should be clear to all heads of government that criticism of Bush Administration policies, either domestic or foreign, does not entitle them to attack the President personally.

George Bush is the President of the United States and represents the entire country. Any demeaning public attack against him is viewed by Republicans and Democrats, and all Americans, as an attack on all of us.

I feel that I must speak out now since the Venezuelan government has been instrumental in providing oil at discounted prices to people in low income communities who have suffered increases in rent as heating oil prices have risen sharply. By offering this benefit to people in need, Venezuela has won many friends in poor communities of New York and other states. I am surprised that American oil companies have not stepped up to provide that kind of assistance to the poor.

Venezuela's generosity to the poor, however, should not be interpreted as license to attack President Bush. Those who take issue with Bush Administration policies have no right to attack him personally. It was not helpful when President Bush referred to certain nations as an "axis of evil." Neither is it helpful for a head of state to use the sacred halls of the United Nations to insult President Bush.

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http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060921/2006-09-21T164325Z_01_N21334844_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-VENEZUELA-USA-SPAT-DC.html

Leading Bush critic at home calls Chavez a "thug"


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Sep 21, 12:43 PM (ET)


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - One of President George W. Bush's fiercest political opponents at home took his side on Thursday, calling Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez a "thug" for his remark that Bush is like the devil.

"Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern day Simon Bolivar but all he is an everyday thug," House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said at a news conference, referring to Chavez' comments in a U.N. General Assembly speech on Wednesday.

"Hugo Chavez abused the privilege that he had, speaking at the United Nations," said Pelosi, a frequent Bush critic. "He demeaned himself and he demeaned Venezuela."

Simon Bolivar led the fight for independence against Spanish rule in several South American countries in the early 19th century and is cited by Chavez as a political model.

Chavez, a vociferous critic of Bush and the United States, has allied himself with U.S. opponents Cuba and Iran and has led a resurgence of left-wing populism in Latin America.

"The devil himself is right in the house. And the devil came here yesterday. Right here," Chavez said as he stood at the U.N. podium where Bush spoke the day before.

"It smells of sulfur still today, this table that I am now standing in front of," Chavez said.

His remarks drew applause from many of the delegates.

Bush administration officials have not responded directly to Chavez's remarks.

"I am not going to dignify a comment by the Venezuelan president to the president of the United States. I think it is not becoming for a head of state," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Wednesday.

SPfloppy
09-21-2006, 05:50 PM
Dude where have you been? Help me out here. LABF dosn't believe that torture helps

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 05:55 PM
The problem I have with Pelosi and Rangel is that Chavez has pretty much parroted what they have said about Bush in the past. Chavez was basically emboldend by the democrat party leaders to come to our backyard and trash our country at the UN and ghetto's of NY.

So for them to feign indignation over his comments when they pretty much agree with him is hypocritical. The democrat party knows this does not sit well with the American public and once again, instead of standing by their positions, they change their tune to score political points. The democrat party symbol should be a weather vane instead of a donkey.

spdirty
09-21-2006, 05:55 PM
Dude where have you been? Help me out here. LABF dosn't believe that torture helps

neither does your boy McCain

SPfloppy
09-21-2006, 05:58 PM
Ass. He is trying to straddle the line and be the bridge betwwen parties. You need to cut the guy some slack. But I agree he needs to back off that. He of all people should know that we are the only country that follows the Geneva Con. The North Vietnamese probabily didn't serve him te and let him play playstation like we have done w/detainees at Gitmo

SPfloppy
09-21-2006, 05:58 PM
Het dude I gotta go. I'll call you tomorrow

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 05:59 PM
neither does your boy McCain

McCain is a RINO (Republican in Name Only) he is not representative of the Republican party by any stretch of the imagination.

spdirty
09-21-2006, 06:12 PM
The problem I have with Pelosi and Rangel is that Chavez has pretty much parroted what they have said about Bush in the past. Chavez was basically emboldend by the democrat party leaders to come to our backyard and trash our country at the UN and ghetto's of NY.

So for them to feign indignation over his comments when they pretty much agree with him is hypocritical. The democrat party knows this does not sit well with the American public and once again, instead of standing by their positions, they change their tune to score political points. The democrat party symbol should be a weather vane instead of a donkey.

Yeah I heard Rush too. I don't like what he said, in fact I had to turn him off today. Look man, I don't really care why they said it, just glad they did. If they did it solely to score political points, they definitely scored some with me. Where the **** was Bush? Why wouldnt he say anything? It makes me sick. Where is Frist? Hastert? Hello?? None of em would say a damn thing about this dictator. Man I'm sick of the GOP, but then I look at the demoncats and they're worse. Man, the least Bush could do was invite Chavez to a huntin trip with Cheney.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2006, 06:15 PM
McCain is a RINO (Republican in Name Only) he is not representative of the Republican party by any stretch of the imagination.

ROFL!

Is that why Turd Blossom had to resort to the "did you know McCain had a black baby" strategy to defeat him in the 2000 GOP primaries?

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 06:18 PM
ROFL!

Is that why Turd Blossom had to resort to the "did you know McCain had a black baby" strategy to defeat him in the 2000 GOP primaries?

Yeah, pretty much. I'd prefer if McCain just abandoned the party and went independant.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2006, 06:21 PM
Yeah, pretty much.

So, you're admitting you were wrong when you said "he (McCain) is not representative of the Republican party by any stretch of the imagination?"

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 06:26 PM
No, its just that we'll do whatever is necessary to excise a cancer such as McCain from the party. As far as the "black baby" statement, I'm sure you took it out of context.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2006, 06:37 PM
No, its just that we'll do whatever is necessary to excise a cancer such as McCain from the party. As far as the "black baby" statement, I'm sure you took it out of context.

But you just said McCain was "not representative of the Republican party by any stretch of the imagination."

Fact: McCain was kicking Dim Son's ass in the 2000 GOP primaries. He only needed one more win (South Carolina) to win his party's nomination for president.

Rove was only able to defeat McCain in S.C. by conducting that infamous, sleazy "did you know McCain had a black baby?" push poll.

Thus, your claim that McCain is "not representative of the Republican party by any stretch of the imagination" is clearly at odds with the facts.

Spider
09-21-2006, 06:44 PM
The problem I have with Pelosi and Rangel is that Chavez has pretty much parroted what they have said about Bush in the past. Chavez was basically emboldend by the democrat party leaders to come to our backyard and trash our country at the UN and ghetto's of NY.

So for them to feign indignation over his comments when they pretty much agree with him is hypocritical. The democrat party knows this does not sit well with the American public and once again, instead of standing by their positions, they change their tune to score political points. The democrat party symbol should be a weather vane instead of a donkey.
I thought I was done down here , but then Chavez pulls his Bullshít then you pull youres ............the entire concept of being american completely eludes you , if you are this ignorent in your police work , your community must be hell ........
Did you notice not 1 republican stood up ?
o0h thats right Rush must not have mentioned it ...........
Damn dude , I dont know how old you are , put I hope in the near future , you will pull your head out of your ass ............
For the record , I wouldnt piss in GW's asshole if his guts were on fire , But Chavez needs a bítch slapping .........

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 06:48 PM
Chavez doesnt need a "bitch slapping" he needs to ummm.."disappear".

spdirty
09-21-2006, 07:20 PM
President Carter will no doubt be on Hugo Chavez's Christmas card list this December. It was certainly a gift for the Venezuelan leader this year when Mr. Carter certified without reservation an election that opposition newspapers were quick to denounce as a fraud. No sooner had the former American president handed this gift to the Venezuelan Marxist than, as our Eli Lake reported last Thursday, the coalition of labor unions, business groups, and political parties brought forward a list of serious complaints about the process leading up to the elections and how the votes were counted by new electronic machines purchased by the state's election commission.
Exit polling from the American firm of Penn, Schoen & Berland Associates suggested the inverse of the results Mr. Carter blessed last Monday that showed Mr. Chavez survived the recount referendum by a margin of 59% to 41%. Nor does the list of concerns for the opposition end with rigged voting machines. Many parties say they have names of government employees fired after their names were disclosed on the Internet by a pro-Chavez legislator as signers of a petition calling for the referendum. Some Venezuelan papers even reported that the paper records of the votes were found in rivers and vacant lots. Finally, many Venezuelans question why Mr. Chavez was so quick to issue citizenship to some 2 million persons, many living abroad, in the months and weeks leading up to the vote.
Given such questions, why would the Carter Center so quickly confirm the official vote count of Mr. Chavez's election commission and recommend that Secretary Powell accept the official results? As Venezuelan journalist Fabiola Zerpa asked, "Why did it rush to back the results? Why couldn't it wait a day or two until all the results were ready and the auditing process was finished?"
One reason is because the two institutions entrusted with certifying the Venezuelan referendum - the Carter Center and the Organization of American States - agreed to ridiculous restrictions for their monitors. Mr. Chavez, for example, limited the number of actual monitors to 120 in a country of 25 million. Under Mr. Chavez's rules, none of the monitors was allowed to comment on the process leading up to the August 15 election. Also, the monitors had to be accompanied by members of the state's election commission, whose final assessment both the OAS and the Carter Center had to agree not to criticize. These conditions were so restrictive and negotiated so close to the election day that the European Union did not even agree to send their monitors.
The August 21 report from the Carter Center on the election fails, incredibly, to make any mention of these restrictive conditions. It does say that after auditing 150 voting machines at random, it found no statistical significance to the opposition's claim that some of those polling devices placed a limit on the number of votes it would allow ousting Mr. Chavez. What a shameful denouement for Mr. Carter's career, providing a seal of approval for a left-wing demagogue intent on destroying his country and opposed to the interests of our own.

http://www.nysun.com/article/719
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fdf
09-21-2006, 07:27 PM
The problem I have with Pelosi and Rangel is that Chavez has pretty much parroted what they have said about Bush in the past. Chavez was basically emboldend by the democrat party leaders to come to our backyard and trash our country at the UN and ghetto's of NY.

Only dems get to say stuff like that about the President. Hugo shouldn't be treading on their turf. Clearly, Nancy's focus groups saw this as a problem before the election. Check out Tom Harkin's comments today. He clearly didn't get the talking points memo and is probably being a lot more honest than Nancy.

gunns
09-21-2006, 07:34 PM
It was certainly a gift for the Venezuelan leader this year when Mr. Carter certified without reservation an election that opposition newspapers were quick to denounce as a fraud.

Sounds like our elections in 2000.

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 09:31 PM
Sounds like our elections in 2000.

Oh you mean the socialist NY Times and the San Francisco chronicle? When will you libs let 2000 rest. It's ancient history and outside of San Francisco, no one cares anymore.

SteveTensi13
09-21-2006, 09:37 PM
F***** democrats, can't even get their opposition to Chavez right! Man, I'm going' to enjoy this November. I think Chavez and Adolph Amadenijad, or however you spell his name, just gift wrapped congress to the GOP. Thanks!!