Leinart to become a father

[dragondawg]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/specials/preview/2006/08/30/bc.fbn.leinart.baby.ap/

[dbfan4life]

Thanks, now I can sleep better at nights. Whew!

[Smiling Assassin27]

maybe they'll name it 'Paris'...

[Orange_Beard]

Damm, I was hoping he knocked up Paris. I bet he was hoping to, talk about locking up up your feature.

[Florida_Bronco]

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Southern California basketball player Brynn Cameron will miss the upcoming season because she is expecting a baby with Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart, according to her father.

Cameron is due to deliver a boy in November, Stan Cameron told the Ventura County Star for Wednesday's editions.

Cameron, a 20-year-old junior guard, and Leinart dated while he attended USC. He graduated in December and was drafted by the Cardinals in April.

Asked Wednesday about Cameron, Leinart said, "I'm not going to comment."

In the past, he has declined comment on other personal information.

Cameron and Leinart reportedly broke up last year but still talk frequently, according to Stan Cameron, who spoke to the newspaper from out of state.

"Brynn does not want to get married," he said. "She wants to finish school and let Matt do his thing and then figure it out."

Cameron said his daughter, who graduated from Newbury Park High in Ventura County, doesn't want to comment until after the baby is born.

"It might not be the best timing in the world, but we are obviously very happy to have a new baby in the family," Stan Cameron said. "Brynn just found out about a month ago and told the team on Monday."

USC announced Tuesday that Cameron would sit out this season for undisclosed personal reasons.

She averaged 9.8 points as a freshman starter for USC but appeared in only 13 games last season after undergoing a second surgery on her hip.

"Once the baby is born, she wants to get back to playing basketball again and finish school," Stan Cameron said. "I know Brynn will make a great mom. Things will be fine. It will be fun."

[dragondawg]

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nfl/cameron-family-just-pleased-as-punch-with-matt-leinart-right-now-197649.php

[Hogan11]

Tabloid crap....wonderful. Really who the F cares? ???

[Crushaholic]

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nfl/cameron-family-just-pleased-as-punch-with-matt-leinart-right-now-197649.php

Below the article are some forum comments. This one made me laugh for some strange reason:


Brynn does not want to get married. She wants to finish school and let Matt do his thing.

If by "thing", you mean half of Arizona, that's cool.Hilarious!

[BroncoInferno]

Perhaps he will be NFL's Shawn Kemp.

[heydensmom]

LOL if it true...doing the math...WOW wasn't he link to among those Paris around that time??? He's a playa!!

[Kaylore]

Below the article are some forum comments. This one made me laugh for some strange reason:


Brynn does not want to get married. She wants to finish school and let Matt do his thing.

If by "thing", you mean half of Arizona, that's cool.Hilarious!

I think she means this "thing":

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9481/seizetheass1largetg2.jpg

[cambrad8085]

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/usc/sports/w-baskbl/auto_headshot/319306.jpeg

[Paladin]

What percentage of his take does she get? This baby should have the best of everything. How about 25% for the baby, and 5% for her? Seem fair?


Anyone?

[elsid13]

And this is a new story because???

[Kaylore]

And this is a new story because???

...it's not an old one? It's recent?

[KipCorrington25]

Oh and then Dylan and Brenda went to the prom and OMG Tory Spelling totally should be allowed to graduate and Andrea Zuckerman is really actually 30 and still in high school!

[dbfan4life]

...it's not an old one? It's recent?

Yeah, but why is it news? Players in the NFL have kids all the time.

[Rascal]

Paris Hilton is having a child?

This is the one case where I would side with the abortion crowd.

[Jason in LA]

Matt's a moron. He's about to be taken to the cleaners on child support. Not surprisingly, she's going to have the baby instead of following her dreams. I bet she was jumping for joy when she found out the great news.

[Sassy]

Matt's a moron. He's about to be taken to the cleaners on child support. Not surprisingly, she's going to have the baby instead of following her dreams. I bet she was jumping for joy when she found out the great news.

Why would you say "not surprisingly"...not all women would want to have Leinart's kid...and give up their dream...

[scorpio]

Why would you say "not surprisingly"...not all women would want to have Leinart's kid...and give up their dream...

You seem to forget that Jason in LA is the Orangemane's most outspoken misogynist

[Rock Chalk]

You seem to forget that Jason in LA is the Orangemane's most outspoken misogynist

How did he get my title?

[Sassy]

How did he get my title?

You were MIA for awhile...Ha!

[Rock Chalk]

You were MIA for awhile...Ha!

Women: The Inferior Gender ;D

[Tredici]

How did he get my title?

You have to think about it. It comes naturally to Jason.

[Tyrant]

Here's the kicker....she was a nice little Mormon girl until Matt got her hands on her...

Her little brother is on BYU's basketball team.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

You have to think about it. It comes naturally to Jason.
Ha!
Classic!

[Saddletramp]

Good luck Matt and Brynn. May you be blessed with the birth of a perfect child. God Bless.

[ozomulsion]

Ring of Fame thread right here.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Good luck Matt and Brynn. May you be blessed with the birth of a perfect child. God Bless.
I would think hoping for no birth complications and a healthy child would be enough.

[Hogan11]

Ring of Fame thread right here.

Nah, it's not off topic nor foolish enough to make it in there.

[Saddletramp]

I would think hoping for no birth complications and a healthy child would be enough.

you are assuming I really give a rats ass what you think?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

you are assuming I really give a rats ass what you think?
Nope, I'm assuming you really don't have a clue. When does the next bible thumping class begin?

[smalltowngrll]

Stan Cameron said. "Brynn just found out about a month ago and told the team on Monday."


Come on....she just found out a month ago?? Lets do some math here...lets see, a month would be July 30th...so, lets give them an extra week......July 23rd. So, if we do the math, and she's due, oh, lets say...Nov. 30. That said..she didn't know she was prego until 21 weeks...or, 5 months???????? Hmmmm...she's a healthy gal...she had to have knows before then. Dang, a good friend of mine, healthy as can be is due Jan 3 and knew back in May!! Kinda wonder about that one.

And, Jason in LA....not everyone makes the same choices as you! The guy made a choice to have sex...he best be ready to deal with the consequences...just as she must! Abortion is not a solution for everyone! He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing!!

[Saddletramp]

Nope, I'm assuming you really don't have a clue. When does the next bible thumping class begin?

when ever you are ready to join. dont forget Jesus loves you even if your wife dont.

[GonzoLays]

Matt's a moron. He's about to be taken to the cleaners on child support. Not surprisingly, she's going to have the baby instead of following her dreams. I bet she was jumping for joy when she found out the great news.


CHING CHING!!


Quote this man for some truth! I cannot possibly believe that ol Matt was doing the deed without his jimmyhat on; she must have poked a whole in that thing while he wasn't looking. Or what is more likely is that she told him she was on the pill and conveniently forgot to take it. Whatever the hell it is, that broad hit the jackpot! Giving up her "lucrative" career in the WNBA to take care of Leinart's baby full time for 18 years. What a woman. Golf clap.

Not only is that girl jumping for joy, the whole freaking family is jumping too. Her father was smitten with excitement.

"It might not be the best timing in the world, but we are obviously very happy to have a new baby in the family," Stan Cameron said. "Brynn just found out about a month ago and told the team on Monday."

"Once the baby is born, she wants to get back to playing basketball again and finish school," Stan Cameron said. "I know Brynn will make a great mom. Things will be fine. It will be fun."

Could a father be any happier about his teenage daughter getting knocked upped by jock who ****s anything that moves? Good gawd man, control your excitement

[Bronco_Beerslug]

when ever you are ready to join. dont forget Jesus loves you even if your wife dont.
I sleep with several women, which one doesn't love me?

[worm]

I thought this chica broke up with him earlier this year when those pictures of Matt and a drunk hottie with her arms around him were circulating around the internet...

The fact that I even know ANYTHING about this topic deeply disturbs me...

[watermock]

Good luck Matt and Brynn. May you be blessed with the birth of a perfect child. God Bless.

Every mult-millionaire is obligated to have at least 3 bastard children by multiple hosts. Unfortunately for Matt, he doesn't have the loose chain of a 162 game schedule as in baseball or he would be there by now. Only 10 games on the road per season limits your opportunities to spread them out nationally. She's going to pop out a meal ticket to the tune of God knows what.

Thank you Denny Green, for saving us the grief of drafting this moron. I'm sure you will enjoy visiting with the proud grandfather in Mormonville. Hilarious! I'm sure he's strutting like a rooster in his tar and feathers. I could make some real funny jokes here but decorum prohibits saying them. They will remain hidden in what I even consider a sick sense of humor.

God, how much more can we thank our lucky stars we got a class act like the Rocket Man? I can't swear he won't knock up a girl, but he just seems to have "It" regarding his poise. Now we know why Matt held out so long. ROFL!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Come on....she just found out a month ago?? Lets do some math here...lets see, a month would be July 30th...so, lets give them an extra week......July 23rd. So, if we do the math, and she's due, oh, lets say...Nov. 30. That said..she didn't know she was prego until 21 weeks...or, 5 months????????

Why would she keep this from him?

[24champ]

I thought this chica broke up with him earlier this year when those pictures of Matt and a drunk hottie with her arms around him were circulating around the internet...

The fact that I even know ANYTHING about this topic deeply disturbs me...

the fact people speculate and think they know the girls motives etc. is pretty disturbing.

[Sassy]

she must have poked a whole in that thing while he wasn't looking. Or what is more likely is that she told him she was on the pill and conveniently forgot to take it. Whatever the hell it is, that broad hit the jackpot!
You are being sarcastic, I hope ....

[Sassy]

Cameron, a 20-year-old junior guard, and Leinart dated while he attended USC. He graduated in December and was drafted by the Cardinals in April.

SO...we're they still "going out" when that baby was conceived?? Maybe it's not Leinarts...she's not due until November....

[24champ]

Cameron, a 20-year-old junior guard, and Leinart dated while he attended USC. He graduated in December and was drafted by the Cardinals in April.

SO...we're they still "going out" when that baby was conceived?? Maybe it's not Leinarts...she's not due until November....

no offense sassy but who cares? Its their problem to sort out. I know this girls parents since they lived down the street from me, I have not met Brynn but I have a hard time thinking the parents raised a gold digger. Her parents are pretty well off financially as well.

[watermock]

C'mon...let we barbarians have our fun Sassy. Any non or former Bronco is fair game for ridicule.

I'm starting to get a little worried about Taco's wife. Nothing other than a bit late. I'm not going to discuss anything more. He's just anxious.

[Jason in LA]

Why would you say "not surprisingly"...not all women would want to have Leinart's kid...and give up their dream...

I never said or implied that all women would want to do that. But since you brought it up, there are a boat load of women who would.

[Jason in LA]

he best be ready to deal with the consequences...just as she must! Abortion is not a solution for everyone! He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing!!

Well of course she's ready to deal with the consequences. She's going to be taken care of for the next 18 years. Oh wait, lets check that. This happened in California. So the mother to be will be taken care of until the kid is 25.

Before you jump all over me for making comments about women, I didn't let Matt off the hook. If you read my first post, the very first thing I said was that Matt is a moron. Are you going to tell me that what he did is smart?

[Jason in LA]

CHING CHING!!


Quote this man for some truth! I cannot possibly believe that ol Matt was doing the deed without his jimmyhat on; she must have poked a whole in that thing while he wasn't looking. Or what is more likely is that she told him she was on the pill and conveniently forgot to take it. Whatever the hell it is, that broad hit the jackpot! Giving up her "lucrative" career in the WNBA to take care of Leinart's baby full time for 18 years. What a woman. Golf clap.

Not only is that girl jumping for joy, the whole freaking family is jumping too. Her father was smitten with excitement.



Could a father be any happier about his teenage daughter getting knocked upped by jock who ****s anything that moves? Good gawd man, control your excitement

G, you my dawg man. I couldn't have said it any better myself.

I know all you women are going to go all nuts over these comments, and some of you whipped guys. But nobody is saying that all, or even most women are like that. The point is that there are some women like that. Are any of you going to say that there aren't? Matt stumbled onto a women like that, and now he's going to pay. It's really his own fault.

[Jason in LA]

Why would she keep this from him?

So he couldn't pressure her into an abortion.

[24champ]

G, you my dawg man. I couldn't have said it any better myself.

I know all you women are going to go all nuts over these comments, and some of you whipped guys. But nobody is saying that all, or even most women are like that. The point is that there are some women like that. Are any of you going to say that there aren't? Matt stumbled onto a women like that, and now he's going to pay. It's really his own fault.

This is comical, this is nobodies fault...let these two sort it out.You make it sound like having a baby is a crime. I mean you have people on this thread making timeframes and others speculating about ulterior motives. Could it be possible that neither planned on having a baby?

[Jason in LA]

she must have poked a whole in that thing while he wasn't looking. Or what is more likely is that she told him she was on the pill and conveniently forgot to take it. Whatever the hell it is, that broad hit the jackpot!
You are being sarcastic, I hope ....

Nope, he's not being sarcastic. Those are tricks that have been used on men. That's why it's smart for a man to handle his own condom. Never take a condom from a woman. That's a rule to live by.

Never believe a woman who says she's on the pill. Still use a condom, your own condom that is. Some women will act all shocked when they get pregnant, even though they damn well knew they stopped taking that pill so they could get knocked up. That happens more often than you would think.

A man should always discard the condom himself. Don't leave your boys lying around in some trash can so some woman can inpregnant herself (that is told to pro athletes at those rookie meetings that they have).

If a woman says she's allergic to certain type of condom, find a brand that she's not allergic too. If she says that she's allergic to all condoms, she's probably lying and she's trying to get pregnant. In that case, you don't want to sleep with her.

Funny but true story. A certain tactic has been used by men to tell if a woman is trying get herself pregnant. After sex, pour hot sauce in the condom and throw it away. If the woman is in the bathroom screaming in pain, you knew what she was trying to do. I've heard two cases of this happening. In one case the woman tried to sue the man for assualt. The judge threw out her case and awarded a judgement to the man for pain and suffering. That's a true story.

Like I said before, I'm not saying all women are like this. I'm not even saying most. But there's more than enough out there like that. So men have to be smarter. Less unwanted babies is better for our society...right?

[Kaylore]

Here's the kicker....she was a nice little Mormon girl until Matt got her hands on her...

Her little brother is on BYU's basketball team.

I'm surprised that I didn't hear about this. Well now I understand why she's keeping the kid. The Church has a good adoption agency if she wants to go that route, but I don't think that she will.

There's actually a lot of Mormons in SoCal. Deuce Latui is a practicing Mormon. During a training camp montage on the Cards they asked him what he took with him to camp and all he said was "three changes of clothes and my scriptures." How would you like to room with a big ole' smelly lineman? :~ohyah!:

[Kaylore]

You know if men didn't feel the need to wave their Penis around in front of everyone like a magic wand then none of these "sneaky" tricks all these women pull off would be an issue. Too bad those nasty women held guns to their head and made them have sex with them.:dummy:

[Rascal]

I sleep with several women, which one doesn't love me?

OWNED!!

[Jason in LA]

Some women want to have a baby no matter what. Some women want to lock a kid up. Black folks have a name for them (brace yourself, I'm going to use a bad word here), a keep-a-****a baby (the word got censored, it started with an "N") We say that everytime some guy's girl ends up pregnant. It's kind of funny.

I'm not saying that women are all to blame here. Men allow this stuff to happen, so we are just as much to blame.

[Rascal]

Come on....she just found out a month ago?? Lets do some math here...lets see, a month would be July 30th...so, lets give them an extra week......July 23rd. So, if we do the math, and she's due, oh, lets say...Nov. 30. That said..she didn't know she was prego until 21 weeks...or, 5 months???????? Hmmmm...she's a healthy gal...she had to have knows before then. Dang, a good friend of mine, healthy as can be is due Jan 3 and knew back in May!! Kinda wonder about that one.

And, Jason in LA....not everyone makes the same choices as you! The guy made a choice to have sex...he best be ready to deal with the consequences...just as she must! Abortion is not a solution for everyone! He's a big boy, he knew what he was doing!!


huh? If she found out a month ago, with a week grace, and waited a week before telling the team...that makes 6 weeks. So that means Lienart Jr was conceived around July 19th (mark that day on your calender...what were you doing the day Lienart JR was conceived it will be in the history books and your kids will ask about it). I still believe it takes about nine months correct? so that makes it April...not November...correct?

[Rascal]

Cameron, a 20-year-old junior guard, and Leinart dated while he attended USC. He graduated in December and was drafted by the Cardinals in April.

SO...we're they still "going out" when that baby was conceived?? Maybe it's not Leinarts...she's not due until November....

Maybe I missed something...were did it say she was due in November?

[smalltowngrll]

Why would she keep this from him?


Not saying that she kept it from him...maybe kept it from everyone. I really don't know...I just find it hard to believe she didn't know until she was 5 months along. Yes, it's happened, but it's very rare, and VERY rare for someone is as good of physical condition as she is.

She was obviously pregnant before he was drafted.

[smalltowngrll]

huh? If she found out a month ago, with a week grace, and waited a week before telling the team...that makes 6 weeks. So that means Lienart Jr was conceived around July 19th (mark that day on your calender...what were you doing the day Lienart JR was conceived it will be in the history books and your kids will ask about it). I still believe it takes about nine months correct? so that makes it April...not November...correct?

Pregnancy is 38 weeks to term. If she is due in November...(I chose november 30th) then you count back to July 20 (about a month ago). That's about 19 weeks. Thus leaving a little less than 19 weeks (I said 21 weeks...I was off by 2) when she found out. So, maybe she wasn't quite 5 months...but, darn close. Anyway...it her becoming prego mid March.

Needless to say, it's neither here nor there...it's their life! Good luck to the both...and hope it's a healthy baby!!

[Rascal]

Where does it say she was due in November?

[Sassy]

Maybe I missed something...were did it say she was due in November?

Cameron is due to deliver a boy in November, Stan Cameron told the Ventura County Star for Wednesday's editions.
Cameron, a 20-year-old junior guard, and Leinart dated while he attended USC. He graduated in December and was drafted by the Cardinals in April
(First few sentences in the article.)

Must have been a Valentine Baby...or around there.

[Los Broncos]

What took you so long matt?

[footstepsfrom#27]

Well of course she's ready to deal with the consequences. She's going to be taken care of for the next 18 years. Oh wait, lets check that. This happened in California. So the mother to be will be taken care of until the kid is 25.
Works for me. I'm glad the kid's going to be provided for and I'm glad Leinert can't hide behind some cash-under-the-table job or dissapear off the radar screen, have his sleezoid lawyer buy off the judge, etc... After banging Paris Hilton he should be glad a baby's all he's getting...;D

[watermock]

What took you so long matt?

He doesn't have 80 road games like in baseball. It will just take a little more time.

[DeusExManning]

What I find funny is that when Carmelo and Lebron announced they were having babies just like this, it was in the news for a minute. Why is this being talked about so much. Who cares?

[Dr. Broncenstein]

If Lienart was a real man, he'd be a father to his child... and he would do it gladly.

[footstepsfrom#27]

If Lienart was a real man, he'd be a father to his child... and he would do it gladly.
Rep.

[watermock]

What I find funny is that when Carmelo and Lebron announced they were having babies just like this, it was in the news for a minute. Why is this being talked about so much. Who cares?

Noone really cares much...it just cements that we made the right choice in Cutler. It will go away by tommorow. Leinart's obligations will last 18 years and beyond.

"I'm on the pill" Yeah a mormon girl on the pill is about as likely as a rhino without a horn.

[Rascal]

Cameron is due to deliver a boy in November, Stan Cameron told the Ventura County Star for Wednesday's editions.
Cameron, a 20-year-old junior guard, and Leinart dated while he attended USC. He graduated in December and was drafted by the Cardinals in April
(First few sentences in the article.)

Must have been a Valentine Baby...or around there.

Reading comprehension is a bitch.

[kappys]

Why would she keep this from him?

Perhaps she wanted to see the contract figures before taking him to court.

[Dagmar]

Congrats matt...

[BroncoBuff]

no offense sassy but who cares? Its their problem to sort out.
Who cares? Everyone who takes the time to post in this thread cares! ;D


I know this girls parents since they lived down the street from me, I have a hard time thinking the parents raised a gold digger. Her parents are pretty well off financially as well.
It is USC, after all ...


.,

[ClevelandBronco]

I would think hoping for no birth complications and a healthy child would be enough.

Oh, for sure, Slug. Lets all hope really hard. That'll matter.

Putz.

[ClevelandBronco]

I sleep with several women, which one doesn't love me?

Not one of them, unless I'm missing my guess.

When you've soiled your diapers, old man, which one will be willing to clean up?

If there is one among your harem, that's the one who loves you.

You're a very intelligent and ridiculous old man.

[BroncoBuff]

Why is this being talked about so much. Who cares?
Who cares? Everyone who takes time to post in this thread cares. ;D

These kinds of posts remind me of my brother ... when I lived in West LA, form time to time I'd tell his wie, "oh, I saw so and so," or "so and so is a client now." My brother always said - 'I don't care one bit about celevrities or who you saw or know,' followed closely by, 'is he funny in person?', or 'is she pretty in person?' :~ohyah!:

Celebrity watching and interest is as natural as anything we do as humans ... and there's nothing MACHO about feigning disinterest.


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[BroncoBuff]

CHING CHING!!

HEY!

I guess this means Cutler will make more than Matty after all! :~ohyah!:



.

[ClevelandBronco]

Who cares? Everyone who takes time to post in this thread cares. ;D

These kinds of posts remind me of my brother ... when I lived in West LA, form time to time I'd tell his wie, "oh, I saw so and so," or "so and so is a client now." My brother always said - 'I don't care one bit about celevrities or who you saw or know,' followed closely by, 'is he funny in person?', or 'is she pretty in person?' :~ohyah!:

Celebrity watching and interest is as natural as anything we do as humans ... and there's nothing MACHO about feigning disinterest.


.

I'm just here to slam Slug. Screw the People magazine stuff.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Nope, he's not being sarcastic. Those are tricks that have been used on men. That's why it's smart for a man to handle his own condom. Never take a condom from a woman. That's a rule to live by.

Never believe a woman who says she's on the pill. Still use a condom, your own condom that is. Some women will act all shocked when they get pregnant, even though they damn well knew they stopped taking that pill so they could get knocked up. That happens more often than you would think.

A man should always discard the condom himself. Don't leave your boys lying around in some trash can so some woman can inpregnant herself (that is told to pro athletes at those rookie meetings that they have).

If a woman says she's allergic to certain type of condom, find a brand that she's not allergic too. If she says that she's allergic to all condoms, she's probably lying and she's trying to get pregnant. In that case, you don't want to sleep with her.

Funny but true story. A certain tactic has been used by men to tell if a woman is trying get herself pregnant. After sex, pour hot sauce in the condom and throw it away. If the woman is in the bathroom screaming in pain, you knew what she was trying to do. I've heard two cases of this happening. In one case the woman tried to sue the man for assualt. The judge threw out her case and awarded a judgement to the man for pain and suffering. That's a true story.

Like I said before, I'm not saying all women are like this. I'm not even saying most. But there's more than enough out there like that. So men have to be smarter. Less unwanted babies is better for our society...right?


Nothing like reading a great lecture from a brilliant mind. You should submit these life lessons to a publisher. I was under the impression that sexual activity with certain women should be avoided if you have to resort to forensics during the afterglow. And to think of the random hookups I avoided because I didn't bring a bottle of tobasco to the party.. I feel so deprived.

"If a woman says she's allergic to certain type of condom, find a brand that she's not allergic too. If she says that she's allergic to all condoms, she's probably lying and she's trying to get pregnant. In that case, you don't want to sleep with her."

Will you consider putting this algorithm on a pocket card for a quick reference?


"Less unwanted babies is better for our society...right?"

Bravo, sir....

[BroncoBuff]

ROFL! LOL

Doc, you've outdone yourself!

[broncocalijohn]

You seem to forget that Jason in LA is the Orangemane's most outspoken misogynist
and props to jason in la. he is 101!
Scorpio arent u the one tha twrites poetry and other nice guy crap for the ladies?

[BroncoBuff]

Actually, we might be dismissing Jason's misogynistic rantings too quickly.

Perhaps we should try to understand him.

Perhaps Jason in L.A. is idle RICH in LA ... and lives a life of heartless excess, punctuated by shallow late night hookups with nefarious L.A. nipped and tucked and siliconized women who specialize in looking 'good' only in dimly-lit environments. I've known dozens of such men and women ... and yes, these concerns are real in that world. But usually only when he's rich and she's desperate.

'Life in the Fast Lane' indeed.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Actually, we might be dismissing Jason's misogynistic rantings too quickly.

Perhaps we should try to understand him.

Perhaps Jason in L.A. is idle RICH in LA ... and lives a life of heartless excess, punctuated by shallow late night hookups with nefarious L.A. nipped and tucked and siliconized women who specialize in looking 'good' only in dimly-lit environments. I've known dozens of such men and women ... and yes, these concerns are real in that world. But usually only when he's rich and she's desperate.

'Life in the Fast Lane' indeed.


That's one way to look at it. Another would be that he is a f---tard asshat who is breathing my air.

[BroncoBuff]

That's one way to look at it. Another would be that he is a f---tard asshat who is breathing my air.

Actually I wasn't actually trying to "look at it" at all ...

I was merely trying to match the priceless dry sarcasm of your earlier post ...




Logorithm?! Priceless! :giggle:

[Bronco_Beerslug]

If Lienart was a real man, he'd be a father to his child... and he would do it gladly.
What, did he say he wouldn't be?

Not one of them, unless I'm missing my guess.

Damn, so now I find out women are liars.

[scorpio]

If Lienart was a real man, he'd be a father to his child... and he would do it gladly.

No no no! Can't you see it's just a trick by those evil womenses????

[Jason in LA]

Works for me. I'm glad the kid's going to be provided for and I'm glad Leinert can't hide behind some cash-under-the-table job or dissapear off the radar screen, have his sleezoid lawyer buy off the judge, etc... After banging Paris Hilton he should be glad a baby's all he's getting...;D

I do agree that he should pay up. He should support this child.

But the issue is that he may be the only one supporting this child because of the screwed up laws. The laws are set up so the mother can sit back and do nothing and just collect checks every month. She doesn't have to financially support the child at all. That happens in many cases.

That doesn't mean that she won't financially support the child. Maybe she does go after the career of her choice. Maybe she does get a job. But maybe she just sits back, collects those checks, and buys a nice house and car on Matt's expence. That type of stuff happens a lot.

That song "Gold Digger" by Kanye West does have a lot of truth to it.

If Matt has to pay a fair amount, I'm all for it. But if he's paying thousands of dollars a month, that's total BS.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

What, did he say he wouldn't be?


Actually, I think the response was "no comment." I'll admit that it is only an assumption on my part. It doesn't appear to be the response of a proud father-to-be.

[bendog]

You seem to forget that Jason in LA is the Orangemane's most outspoken misogynist

I'm not sure how I feel about mixed race marriages.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I do agree that he should pay up. He should support this child.

But the issue is that he may be the only one supporting this child because of the screwed up laws. The laws are set up so the mother can sit back and do nothing and just collect checks every month. She doesn't have to financially support the child at all. That happens in many cases.

That doesn't mean that she won't financially support the child. Maybe she does go after the career of her choice. Maybe she does get a job. But maybe she just sits back, collects those checks, and buys a nice house and car on Matt's expence. That type of stuff happens a lot.

That song "Gold Digger" by Kanye West does have a lot of truth to it.

If Matt has to pay a fair amount, I'm all for it. But if he's paying thousands of dollars a month, that's total BS.


I'll give you a free vasectomy... free.. I can write off the loss as a charitable donation to the "Less Unwanted Babies is Better for Society, Society; or LUBIFS. You could ease your mind of threat that parental repsonsibility poses.. and I would sleep soundly at night knowing the world is a better place.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I'll give you a free vasectomy... free..
That's a great offer!!! Can you do this for all Maners who might want to get cut? I remember when I got mine (cost like $200). What's the going rate these days?

[watermock]

I had a chick that I was living with that insisted she was on the pill. It's been so long ago I don't remember anything but seeing red when she confessed she wanted to marry me by getting pregnant. I kicked her 95 pounds of dimwit so far she landed somewhere near North Platte Nebraska, bounced and wound up back in Iowa.

Don't ever buy the little girlie facade. Women are even more underhanded and conniving than men, and less obvious. They have a full bag of tricks to choose from too.

Here is a FACT. Women leave a marriage 60 to 40%. Fact: Women are also, despite popular belief, more likely to be unfaithfull in marriage. Fact: Your more likely to contract an STD from a woman than a woman from a man. Fact: Courts don't care if the woman is a tramp, you still have to pay for your child, rarely see him, even with joint custody. FACT: You have absolutely no control over money given in child support as a general rule. Can you imagine how many rocks have been bought with proceeds from child support as she throws the baby a bag of weiners to chew on? Do you realize how many mothers buy a new car with their child support money? There is basically zero interest from the courts, and she can basically put on a show even if you go into litigation.

These are all facts. Hammer away at me. I'm not saying these are the rule, I'm saying that they are quite common. T.O. looking at a 9500 dollars on the sidewalk, he might just walk past it.

[Tredici]

A guy goes to the supermarket and notices a beautiful blond woman wave
to him and say hello.

He's rather taken aback, because he can't place where he knows her
from. So he says, "Do you know me?" To which she replies, "I think you're
the father of one of my kids."

Now his mind travels back to the only time he has ever been unfaithful
to his wife and says," My God, are you the stripper from my bachelor
party?

When I laid on the pool table with all my buddies watching, while your
partner whipped my butt with wet celery.

She looks into his eyes and calmly says, "No, I'm your son's math teacher."

[watermock]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/MattBaby.jpg

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Here is a FACT. Women leave a marriage 60 to 40%. Fact: Women are also, despite popular belief, more likely to be unfaithfull in marriage. Fact: Your more likely to contract an STD from a woman than a woman from a man. Fact: Courts don't care if the woman is a tramp, you still have to pay for your child, rarely see him, even with joint custody. FACT: You have absolutely no control over money given in child support as a general rule. Can you imagine how many rocks have been bought with proceeds from child support as she throws the baby a bag of weiners to chew on? Do you realize how many mothers buy a new car with their child support money? There is basically zero interest from the courts, and she can basically put on a show even if you go into litigation.

These are all facts. Hammer away at me. I'm not saying these are the rule, I'm saying that they are quite common. T.O. looking at a 9500 dollars on the sidewalk, he might just walk past it.

This is why consuming massive amounts of alcohol is not always good for you boys and girls.

[TexanBob]

She was a guard on the USC women's basketball team. Apparently she hadn't learned how to defense the "give and go".

[smalltowngrll]

I do agree that he should pay up. He should support this child.

But the issue is that he may be the only one supporting this child because of the screwed up laws. The laws are set up so the mother can sit back and do nothing and just collect checks every month. She doesn't have to financially support the child at all. That happens in many cases.
That doesn't mean that she won't financially support the child. Maybe she does go after the career of her choice. Maybe she does get a job. But maybe she just sits back, collects those checks, and buys a nice house and car on Matt's expence. That type of stuff happens a lot.

That song "Gold Digger" by Kanye West does have a lot of truth to it.

If Matt has to pay a fair amount, I'm all for it. But if he's paying thousands of dollars a month, that's total BS.

Damn...where did I go wrong?? LOL

And, why shouldn't the child he fathered be able to live the life that the child would have lived had Matt actually married the woman who gave birth to his child??

Jason, I actually feel sorry for you. You'll never be able to understand the true meaning of love and trust.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

That's a great offer!!! Can you do this for all Maners who might want to get cut? I remember when I got mine (cost like $200). What's the going rate these days?

Much more than $200.

[GonzoLays]

Damn...where did I go wrong?? LOL

And, why shouldn't the child he fathered be able to live the life that the child would have lived had Matt actually married the woman who gave birth to his child??

Jason, I actually feel sorry for you. You'll never be able to understand the true meaning of love and trust.

What if Matt wants to keep the baby and raise the child himself? I don't think a teenage mother with no income or a college education is better fit to raise a child than a man who has a college degree, his own living quarters and the means to secure the best upbringing that a child could possibly have.

Give her weekend visitation rights.

[Tredici]

What if Matt wants to keep the baby and raise the child himself? I don't think a teenage mother with no income or a college education is better fit to raise a child than a man who has a college degree, his own living quarters and the means to secure the best upbringing that a child could possibly have.

Give her weekend visitation rights.


I think that is an excellent idea. Except not the part about "if he wants". All children should be awarded to the man and he should be expected to raise the child himself.

Unwanted pregnancies would cease to be an issue.

[jonny1]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/MattBaby.jpg

Now that is a great picture, Mock . . .


^5

[GonzoLays]

I think that is an excellent idea. Except not the part about "if he wants". All children should be awarded to the man and he should be expected to raise the child himself.

Unwanted pregnancies would cease to be an issue.

It is an excellent idea. Eliminate the middle man (or woman in the case.) Just hire a nanny for 65,000 a year, give her and the baby the second floor of the mansion and save himself the drama and million dollar child support payments. This makes complete sense for a guy like Matt Leinart on many levels.

[Sassy]

$65,000 a year for a nanny...I'll take that!
I even have experience! LOL!

[smalltowngrll]

What if Matt wants to keep the baby and raise the child himself? I don't think a teenage mother with no income or a college education is better fit to raise a child than a man who has a college degree, his own living quarters and the means to secure the best upbringing that a child could possibly have.

Give her weekend visitation rights.

Since when was a 20 year old a teenage mother?

Anyway...I have no problem with that.

And, just an FYI...a teenager without a college education can raise a child just as effectively as someone with an education. Parenting is NOT about having a degree, but about being responsible and just being there for that child!
I think that is an excellent idea. Except not the part about "if he wants". All children should be awarded to the man and he should be expected to raise the child himself.

Unwanted pregnancies would cease to be an issue.


I couldn't agree more!

Edit: I don't know how that happened...but, the correct post is quoted and attributed correctly...Sorry Tredici for somehow misrepresenting you!!

[Tredici]

It is an excellent idea. Eliminate the middle man (or woman in the case.) Just hire a nanny for 65,000 a year, give her and the baby the second floor of the mansion and save himself the drama and million dollar child support payments. This makes complete sense for a guy like Matt Leinart on many levels.

Nope. He should be expected to raise the child himself. There is also the good of the child to consider - it's not just about the sperm donor. If he can't be a parent, then he shouldn't be awarded the child, makes no sense at all. If he doesn't want to spend the money giving it to a parent who will raise the child, then he doesn't get to spend the money giving it to a surrogate.

Plenty of men do a very respectable job of raising their children. I think the world needs to know how capable they are in this regard. Sticking the kid upstairs with a nanny will just lend itself to fewer men gaining custody.

[dbfan21]

"Brynn does not want to get married," he said. "She wants to finish school and let Matt do his thing and then figure it out."


There's a responsible adult if I've ever seen one. I can picture it now:

Hey Matt, don't worry about this whole baby thing. It'll be a piece of cake for me to be a college student athelete and full-time mother at the same time. Meanwhile, you go have fun with your buddies. We can talk about this in a few years. Don't worry about Matty Jr. I'll just tell him his real daddy left to join the circus.

Nice plan, kids!

[Tredici]

How did smalltowngrll manage to attribute one of Gonzo's posts to me? Flattering as it may be, I just can't accept any of his amazing thoughts as my own.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I do agree that he should pay up. He should support this child.

But the issue is that he may be the only one supporting this child because of the screwed up laws. The laws are set up so the mother can sit back and do nothing and just collect checks every month. She doesn't have to financially support the child at all. That happens in many cases.

That doesn't mean that she won't financially support the child. Maybe she does go after the career of her choice. Maybe she does get a job. But maybe she just sits back, collects those checks, and buys a nice house and car on Matt's expence. That type of stuff happens a lot.

That song "Gold Digger" by Kanye West does have a lot of truth to it.

If Matt has to pay a fair amount, I'm all for it. But if he's paying thousands of dollars a month, that's total BS.
Leinert can afford thousands of dollars a month. He'll be spending that much on table dances and blow jobs if the early reports on this clown are even halfway accurate. As for supporting the child, if this woman never works a day in her life, she'll be the one rising 5 times a night to check and see if he's breathing, changing diapers, feeding him, holding him when he's sick. She'll be the one doing the heavy lifting of child rearing from infancy to adulthood. What wil Leinert be doing? Probably banging pole dancers and porn stars.

I will be shocked if this guy takes any interest in this kid. And if he does...given his current state of mind...would that even be appropriate? Leinert may ultimately grow up and turn out to be a good human being and even a good father.

Right now he's just an idiot with a big wallet.

[GonzoLays]

Nope. He should be expected to raise the child himself. There is also the good of the child to consider - it's not just about the sperm donor. If he can't be a parent, then he shouldn't be awarded the child, makes no sense at all. If he doesn't want to spend the money giving it to a parent who will raise the child, then he doesn't get to spend the money giving it to a surrogate.

Plenty of men do a very respectable job of raising their children. I think the world needs to know how capable they are in this regard. Sticking the kid upstairs with a nanny will just lend itself to fewer men gaining custody.

Nope. Is the woman expected to raise the child herself? I don't think so. She TOO will need a nanny due to her desire to attend school and finish her degree. If she can't be a parent, then she shouldn't be awarded the child, correct? Since Matt only works 5 to 6 months a year, you could reasonably assume that he would be more available to the child than a woman who attends school 9 months a year. Besides, he is stinking rich and she is not. He can afford better "day care" than she will be able to.

[Sassy]

Nope. Is the woman expected to raise the child herself? I don't think so. She TOO will need a nanny due to her desire to attend school and finish her degree. If she can't be a parent, then she shouldn't be awarded the child, correct? Since Matt only works 5 to 6 months a year, you could reasonably assume that he would be more available to the child than a woman who attends school 9 months a year. Besides, he is stinking rich and she is not. He can afford better "day care" than she will be able to.

This is getting a little ridiculous...Most women have their child/children in daycare...(are you saying they are "bad" parents because of it? ) and more expensive is not necessarily better. Besides that...a lot of colleges have their own daycare facility on site...and she can visit in between classes...and being in college, you're not going to have the same schedule everyday of the week...or be in class from 8-5. As for matt only working 5-6 months a year...what a joke....Conditioning is all year around and from what we've heard of Matt he likes to play. This alone would probably cut down on his "availability"...I'm not saying that he would be a bad parent and I'm not saying she would...I'm saying we don't know all the facts as to who would be the better parent or what would be the best choice for the baby...luckily, it's not our decision.

[bendog]

misogynistic ?

I thought the girl was white?

(Jason you're my hero, assuming you're joking, which I'm going to do.)

btw, I hope the girl has a great life, and honestly it's sounding like Lionheart could, and prolly will, do a lot worse.

[Tredici]

Nope. Is the woman expected to raise the child herself? I don't think so. She TOO will need a nanny due to her desire to attend school and finish her degree. If she can't be a parent, then she shouldn't be awarded the child, correct? Since Matt only works 5 to 6 months a year, you could reasonably assume that he would be more available to the child than a woman who attends school 9 months a year. Besides, he is stinking rich and she is not. He can afford better "day care" than she will be able to.

She may need some help. That is a far cry from a $65,000 nanny and shuttling the kid to the second floor.

So are you saying all single working parents should have children removed from their homes? No different than going to school a few hours a day.

What about the 5 to 6 months a year when Matt does work? Apparently being totally unaccessable is okay, but going to school each day for a few hours is not?

It's all a moot point anyway. It was the girl's father who broke the story. It is obvious her parents are going to be there to help with the child. As a matter of fact, I've seen various films of Matt and his parents prior to the draft. I can't imagine they wouldn't be willing to help him in raising the child.

Unfortunately money is being made the issue. And that has the least to do with raising a terrific kid.

[GonzoLays]

Leinert can afford thousands of dollars a month. He'll be spending that much on table dances and blow jobs if the early reports on this clown are even halfway accurate. As for supporting the child, if this woman never works a day in her life, she'll be the one rising 5 times a night to check and see if he's breathing, changing diapers, feeding him, holding him when he's sick. She'll be the one doing the heavy lifting of child rearing from infancy to adulthood. What wil Leinert be doing? Probably banging pole dancers and porn stars.

I will be shocked if this guy takes any interest in this kid. And if he does...given his current state of mind...would that even be appropriate? Leinert may ultimately grow up and turn out to be a good human being and even a good father.

Right now he's just an idiot with a big wallet.


And where are you getting all this information from? Your imagination?

Matt Leinart seems about 200 times more responsible than your average 22 year old. How many 22 year olds would turn down millions of dollars to get their college degree and finish what they started at USC? How many 22 years have represented and brought prestige to their university like Matt Leinart? You must be speaking of his arrest record? Wait, he doesn't have one.

And what are these early reports and "current state of mind" of Leinart that you speak of? I have not heard one damning word about this guy. If you are speaking of his sexual exploits, I would presume that Matt Leinart boned about as many girls in college than say Jay Culter or Tom Brady. But since neither of those guys led their college teams to two consecutive national championships and didn't play in one of the largest media markets in the world, nobody gave a flying flip who they were ****ing.

What you are saying is that ALL ATHLETES are unfit to raise children because they will "getting lap dances and shoving 20's down stripper's thongs" because I am quite sure Matt Leinart is not the only athlete in the world keeping strip joints up. Dare I say it, but I believe there MIGHT BE some mothers straddling the poles in those establishments and a bunch of average joe fathers paying them to do it. Naaah, couldn't be, only Matt Leinart is doing it.

[bendog]

Hold it there, bub.

"What you are saying is that ALL ATHLETES are unfit to raise children because they will "getting lap dances and shoving 20's down stripper's thongs"

Just cause a guy goes to nudie bars doesn't mean he isn't a good dad.

[BroncoBuff]

I'll give you a free vasectomy... free.. I can write off the loss as a charitable donation to the "Less Unwanted Babies is Better for Society, Society; or LUBIFS. You could ease your mind of threat that parental repsonsibility poses.. and I would sleep soundly at night knowing the world is a better place.
You're on a roll AGAIN! :giggle:

[Sassy]

Do you know Matt personally?
"Seems" doesn't make it fact.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

misogynistic ?

I thought the girl was white?

(Jason you're my hero, assuming you're joking, which I'm going to do.)

btw, I hope the girl has a great life, and honestly it's sounding like Lionheart could, and prolly will, do a lot worse.
bendog, are you confusing misogynist with something else?

[bendog]

huh, confused, me? Naw, first I read the young lady played basket ball, so I figured she had to be african american ... even at "the Y." But then it seemed like she turned out white. So I don't see why people are upset. But I do agree with Jason ... these women are all evil. (-:

[GonzoLays]

Hold it there, bub.

"What you are saying is that ALL ATHLETES are unfit to raise children because they will "getting lap dances and shoving 20's down stripper's thongs"

Just cause a guy goes to nudie bars doesn't mean he isn't a good dad.

Tell that to Footstepsfrom#27

He'll be spending that much on table dances and blow jobs if the early reports on this clown are even halfway accurate...What wil Leinert be doing? Probably banging pole dancers and porn stars.

[toad]

I wish them the best -- a healthy, happy baby.

This stuff happens all the time...just so happened to be a prominent figure this time around.

[bendog]

Jake's a wise man.

ps, http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=reu-openromancedc&prov=reuters&type=lgns

[broncocalijohn]

Damn...where did I go wrong?? LOL

And, why shouldn't the child he fathered be able to live the life that the child would have lived had Matt actually married the woman who gave birth to his child??

Jason, I actually feel sorry for you. You'll never be able to understand the true meaning of love and trust.
Sorry STG, you dont reward a woman for getting knocked up by a guy that happens to be rich. She might need an extra room and let us say a nanny because she is going to continue going to school. Fine with that. First, they were not married and second a woman does not have to prove where the money is being spent. If he lives in a 3 million dollar house doesnt mean her and the kid should get the same house based on her getting knocked up. There is no legal relation here except between the kid and the parents. If he wants to spoil the kid with expensive toys, then that is Matt's doing. Woman should not get rewarded based on finding a gold mine. There is nothing wrong with the child getting an average style of living if that is what she is used to. We need to stop rewarding woman with cash on having kids out of wedlock. The child deserves care by both parents. It shouldnt be a reward system. The child should not get automatic private schooling. This is based on both parents voluntarily giving the "extras" to the child. She will have her special needs since she is still going to school. That is a given and probably better for both of the mother and child. STG, I know you are a single mom and worked your A$$ off to care for your child. I commend you for that but sooooo many dont (and others get the shaft by the loser father).

[24champ]

Who cares? Everyone who takes the time to post in this thread cares! ;D



It is USC, after all ...


.,

She got a basketball scholarship. I dont care enough to be making timeframes and cooking up theories about why Brynn supposedly kept it away from Matt...let them deal with it.

[BroncoSoja]

Matt's a moron. He's about to be taken to the cleaners on child support. Not surprisingly, she's going to have the baby instead of following her dreams. I bet she was jumping for joy when she found out the great news.


True story

[Tredici]

Sorry STG, you dont reward a woman for getting knocked up by a guy that happens to be rich. She might need an extra room and let us say a nanny because she is going to continue going to school. Fine with that. First, they were not married and second a woman does not have to prove where the money is being spent. If he lives in a 3 million dollar house doesnt mean her and the kid should get the same house based on her getting knocked up. There is no legal relation here except between the kid and the parents. If he wants to spoil the kid with expensive toys, then that is Matt's doing. Woman should not get rewarded based on finding a gold mine. There is nothing wrong with the child getting an average style of living if that is what she is used to. We need to stop rewarding woman with cash on having kids out of wedlock. The child deserves care by both parents. It shouldnt be a reward system. The child should not get automatic private schooling. This is based on both parents voluntarily giving the "extras" to the child. She will have her special needs since she is still going to school. That is a given and probably better for both of the mother and child. STG, I know you are a single mom and worked your A$$ off to care for your child. I commend you for that but sooooo many dont (and others get the shaft by the loser father).

What stg posted isn't based on her opinion. It's how the judiciary system sees it. And they don't look at the woman landing in a gold mine. As a matter of fact, it doesn't have anything to do with the woman. They look at the CHILD's circumstances. And the courts have decided the child has the right to the same lifestyle he or she would have if living with both parents. Meaning this child is entitled to the same life which will be available to any other children which may come along some day. If other children are given the priviledge of private school, then this child should have it too. Conversely, this child should not be given privileges not extended to others. Unfortunately, the reality is you cannot rely on both parents voluntarily giving "extras" to the child. If that were the norm, the courts wouldn't have to be involved in the first place.

The percentage of children born out of wedlock to multi millionaires is realitively small.

It's too bad there isn't the passion involved around the millions of single parent families who receive no help from the other party. That is by far, the more common situation.

[TerrElway]

Here's the kicker....she was a nice little Mormon girl until Matt got her hands on her...

Her little brother is on BYU's basketball team.

You know how to keep a Mormon girl from having sex?

Marry her.

(I oughta know.)

[smalltowngrll]

What stg posted isn't based on her opinion. It's how the judiciary system sees it. And they don't look at the woman landing in a gold mine. As a matter of fact, it doesn't have anything to do with the woman. They look at the CHILD's circumstances. And the courts have decided the child has the right to the same lifestyle he or she would have if living with both parents. Meaning this child is entitled to the same life which will be available to any other children which may come along some day. If other children are given the priviledge of private school, then this child should have it too. Conversely, this child should not be given privileges not extended to others. Unfortunately, the reality is you cannot rely on both parents voluntarily giving "extras" to the child. If that were the norm, the courts wouldn't have to be involved in the first place.

The percentage of children born out of wedlock to multi millionaires is realitively small.

It's too bad there isn't the passion involved around the millions of single parent families who receive no help from the other party. That is by far, the more common situation.


It most certainly is!

[Circle Orange]

*shrugs* a sex baby. So what? Now he's got a yoke around his neck for future contracts and child support. The local radio said the girlfriend waited to mention the pregnancy (convenient). And the two had split according to reports. Nice, fractured non-family story.

[TexanBob]

It is an excellent idea. Eliminate the middle man (or woman in the case.) Just hire a nanny for 65,000 a year, give her and the baby the second floor of the mansion and save himself the drama and million dollar child support payments. This makes complete sense for a guy like Matt Leinart on many levels.

Until the nanny files suit for sexual harassment. This is really just the start of Leinart's troubles until he learns to keep his gun in the holster.

Plus it might not be wise for Matt to be around the child while it is roughly the size of a football. Too much temptation....

[RaiderH8r]

Brynn went to a kegger and picked up one of these:

http://www.milosobel.com/images/mealticket.jpg

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The percentage of children born out of wedlock to multi millionaires is realitively small.

I like to see those numbers (based on number of millionaires). I have a feeling it might be larger than you think.

[watermock]

It seems that "one nut" Lance Armstrong is now boning in "The Hilton". You just can't make this shiat up.

[Kaylore]

You know how to keep a Mormon girl from having sex?

Marry her.

(I oughta know.)
Sorry to hear that, dude.

I have quite a few Mormon friends (being that I am Mormon) and most of the women I've talked to are total fiends in bed and complain it's the men that have trouble keeping up. I guess just like everything else it depends on who you've got.

I do know one man who is a close friend of the family who divorced his first wife because she only believed in having sex to make babies. I don't know why so many people don't talk about that stuff before they tie the knot.

[TexanBob]

Sorry to hear that, dude.

I have quite a few Mormon friends (being that I am Mormon) and most of the women I've talked to are total fiends in bed and complain it's the men that have trouble keeping up. I guess just like everything else it depends on who you've got.

I do know one man who is a close friend of the family who divorced his first wife because she only believed in having sex to make babies. I don't know why so many people don't talk about that stuff before they tie the knot.

My sister's family are Mormon. They pop out kids like larvae. Hard to do that if you're not having sex.

[watermock]

It's not sex. It's God's commandment to procreate. Big difference. They simply do the dirty deed in the dark with all doors locked inside and out.

[Kaylore]

It's not sex. It's God's commandment to procreate. Big difference. They simply do the dirty deed in the dark with all doors locked inside and out.

Someone's pretending to be an authority on something they aren't part of and are totally ignorant to.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Someone's pretending to be an authority on something they aren't part of and are totally ignorant to.

Three prepositions in one sentence.. I think.. but not sure..

[scorpio]

Three prepositions in one sentence.. I think.. but not sure..

I counted four: be, on, of, to

[Tredici]

I like to see those numbers (based on number of millionaires). I have a feeling it might be larger than you think.


I think you can find the statistics in Orange Mane archives. Every time it happens it hits the news. Then we hear the same crap from everyone. Maybe we need a "Rich Guys Who Aren't Capable of Minding Their Peckers Around Evil POS Women" forum so we can track these. (And just cut and paste from one pregnancy to the next - save some time....)


:~ohyah!:

[Tredici]

Do you seriously think this is more common then single parents who raise the kids with little to no support from the other party?

I'd be willing to bet everyone in this forum knows someone (or many someone's) in that situation. Probably more than a few who were raised that way -by a single parent who received little to no support.

Yet, somehow we skip that because apparently we all have far more expertise in the evil plotting woman, fleeced millionaire situations....

[Hogan11]

You silly kids...don't you know it's always the guy's fault? Don't you watch Lifetime at all? Sheesh!

Now that that is settled, how about a Fresca?
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[broncocalijohn]

What stg posted isn't based on her opinion. It's how the judiciary system sees it. And they don't look at the woman landing in a gold mine. As a matter of fact, it doesn't have anything to do with the woman. They look at the CHILD's circumstances. And the courts have decided the child has the right to the same lifestyle he or she would have if living with both parents. Meaning this child is entitled to the same life which will be available to any other children which may come along some day. If other children are given the priviledge of private school, then this child should have it too. Conversely, this child should not be given privileges not extended to others. Unfortunately, the reality is you cannot rely on both parents voluntarily giving "extras" to the child. If that were the norm, the courts wouldn't have to be involved in the first place.

The percentage of children born out of wedlock to multi millionaires is realitively small.

It's too bad there isn't the passion involved around the millions of single parent families who receive no help from the other party. That is by far, the more common situation.

The courts are wrong. The problem is that they dont look at hitting the gold mine. The child benefits with the mom who isnt married and has no legal connection to the father except of the child. The courts trust the mom to spend the child support as fit for the child but of course now the woman gets the luxury lifestyle also. It is amazing that it is almost solely based on what income bracket the father is in. Brynn's father was delighted to have another addition to his family. I wonder how he would feel if it was just another 21 year old college student struggling through school. Dad sees the future in tickets and a last name of Leinert for his grandson/daughter.

[fontaine]

I had a chick that I was living with that insisted she was on the pill. It's been so long ago I don't remember anything but seeing red when she confessed she wanted to marry me by getting pregnant. I kicked her 95 pounds of dimwit so far she landed somewhere near North Platte Nebraska, bounced and wound up back in Iowa.

Don't ever buy the little girlie facade. Women are even more underhanded and conniving than men, and less obvious. They have a full bag of tricks to choose from too.

Here is a FACT. Women leave a marriage 60 to 40%. Fact: Women are also, despite popular belief, more likely to be unfaithfull in marriage. Fact: Your more likely to contract an STD from a woman than a woman from a man. Fact: Courts don't care if the woman is a tramp, you still have to pay for your child, rarely see him, even with joint custody. FACT: You have absolutely no control over money given in child support as a general rule. Can you imagine how many rocks have been bought with proceeds from child support as she throws the baby a bag of weiners to chew on? Do you realize how many mothers buy a new car with their child support money? There is basically zero interest from the courts, and she can basically put on a show even if you go into litigation.

These are all facts. Hammer away at me. I'm not saying these are the rule, I'm saying that they are quite common. T.O. looking at a 9500 dollars on the sidewalk, he might just walk past it.


mock, you acted like a biatch, and you got treated like one too.

At least have the decency to man up to it, you loser, instead of blaming all women in general. That's probably how you ended up dirt broke and looking for a handout off your brother.

[bendog]

Holy Crap Mock! I hope you are more likely to get an std from a female than a man! But in your case I suppose it's possible you'd stumble passing out drunk into a bath house.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The courts are wrong. The problem is that they dont look at hitting the gold mine. The child benefits with the mom who isnt married and has no legal connection to the father except of the child. The courts trust the mom to spend the child support as fit for the child but of course now the woman gets the luxury lifestyle also. It is amazing that it is almost solely based on what income bracket the father is in. Brynn's father was delighted to have another addition to his family. I wonder how he would feel if it was just another 21 year old college student struggling through school. Dad sees the future in tickets and a last name of Leinert for his grandson/daughter.

This is all fantasy now-a-days, at least in Colorado anyway. I was awarded full custody of my kids including her son from her first marriage. All assets were split down the middle from the date of marriage including real estate, annuities, pensions, etc...

Judges use all information available to determine who might best provide for children.

[broncocalijohn]

Holy Crap Mock! I hope you are more likely to get an std from a female than a man! But in your case I suppose it's possible you'd stumble passing out drunk into a bath house.

Im thinking barn animal before male/female. It is Iowa you know. But he is correct on woman having their bag of tricks. One of them to block is flush the condoms down the toilet (hopefully it is at her house) or a suggestion on a popular radio show is put tobacco sauce in the condom before trashing it. You will know if she tried to insert said condom for pregnancy try. Can someone say, OUCH!

[bendog]

This is all fantasy now-a-days, at least in Colorado anyway. I was awarded full custody of my kids including her son from her first marriage. All assets were split down the middle from the date of marriage including real estate, annuities, pensions, etc...

Judges use all information available to determine who might best provide for children.

Stop being realistic. This thread is so full of dumb ignorant bs posts, I read it a second time. (I suppose though that Jason could be joking, but Gonzo and Mock really aren't)Hilarious!

[Bronx33]

maybe they'll name it 'Paris'...


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahaha!

[fatcard]

I know how this guy feels (except for losing millions)....

The same **** just happened to me a few weeks ago!

Damn.....

[Tredici]

The courts are wrong. The problem is that they dont look at hitting the gold mine. The child benefits with the mom who isnt married and has no legal connection to the father except of the child. The courts trust the mom to spend the child support as fit for the child but of course now the woman gets the luxury lifestyle also. It is amazing that it is almost solely based on what income bracket the father is in. Brynn's father was delighted to have another addition to his family. I wonder how he would feel if it was just another 21 year old college student struggling through school. Dad sees the future in tickets and a last name of Leinert for his grandson/daughter.

I don't think you have to wonder. These people are Mormons. Regardless of what your, or my opinion, might be of that religion I tend to lean towards this family being accepting of any child regardless of how it has come be.

Neither of us knows this family. I don't see any reason to presume the worst of them.

I find it interesting your arguments tend to go against the child and mother living a lifestyle the father is more than capable of providing. These people live in a different world than I do. I could care less about their money situations. They'll still have more than enough. Who knows? Maybe Matt dated her, they had a relationship and then when he's going to be a big deal he walks out. In other words, maybe he used her. Is that all right? Does that absolve him of any responsibility including financial?

All I'm saying is each relationship is different. None of us know anything about what occurred with these people. We tend to automatically think the worse. In reality this stuff happens every single day. And the only one who knows the motives involved are the people having the experience.

[bendog]

Can some people help me out? Being the father of a girl child, who will soon be an adolescent, and as she certainly appears to be of the straight orientation, she will in all likihood date. Reading the posts on this thread, it occurs to me that I need some kind of "test," to pre-screen jerk idiots girl-haters with whom she might unwittingly date, and God forbid become pregnant by. Not that I wouldn't welcome another family member - so long as it wasn't a jerk idiot girl-hater son-in-law - but it seems to me that such close contact with such a male would screw up my daughter's life.

Therefore, I'd welcome any suggestions for a 'jerk idiot girl-hater test."

(oh, and btw, I'm starting to question whether I was relieved when I noted that she did seem to be oriented straight, though I'm beginning to see why bi-sexual women would choose a non-male partner)

[Tredici]

Can some people help me out? Being the father of a girl child, who will soon be an adolescent, and as she certainly appears to be of the straight orientation, she will in all likihood date. Reading the posts on this thread, it occurs to me that I need some kind of "test," to pre-screen jerk idiots girl-haters with whom she might unwittingly date, and God forbid become pregnant by. Not that I wouldn't welcome another family member - so long as it wasn't a jerk idiot girl-hater son-in-law - but it seems to me that such close contact with such a male would screw up my daughter's life.

Therefore, I'd welcome any suggestions for a 'jerk idiot girl-hater test."

(oh, and btw, I'm starting to question whether I was relieved when I noted that she did seem to be oriented straight, though I'm beginning to see why bi-sexual women would choose a non-male partner)

Well, pretty much keep her away from the Muslims and the teenage Americans....

:~ohyah!:

[bendog]

Well, pretty much keep her away from the Muslims and the teenage Americans....

:~ohyah!:

Well, one of my next door neighbors raised two boys and one girl into adulthood, and the boys threw parties when mom and dad were away, and were rather 'scruffy looking,' though most of the high school boys look that way too. But I imagine they knew they'd break their lovely mother's heart if they acted like jerk idiot girl-haters.

The guy across the street's got a kid my daughter's age in the same school as her. I think the chances of my daughter going out with him are slim to none, but his father would break his legs if he was a jerk idiot girl-hater, and his ex-wife would hit him with a kitchen implement.

But then there's the three toe-d lawyer down the street. Lost two toes dove hunting when his shotgun discharged accidentally. His three boys sort of live up off by themselves in an addition he added-on on top of his garage. I think they view girls sort of like deer.

[smalltowngrll]

Can some people help me out? Being the father of a girl child, who will soon be an adolescent, and as she certainly appears to be of the straight orientation, she will in all likihood date. Reading the posts on this thread, it occurs to me that I need some kind of "test," to pre-screen jerk idiots girl-haters with whom she might unwittingly date, and God forbid become pregnant by. Not that I wouldn't welcome another family member - so long as it wasn't a jerk idiot girl-hater son-in-law - but it seems to me that such close contact with such a male would screw up my daughter's life.

Therefore, I'd welcome any suggestions for a 'jerk idiot girl-hater test."

(oh, and btw, I'm starting to question whether I was relieved when I noted that she did seem to be oriented straight, though I'm beginning to see why bi-sexual women would choose a non-male partner)

When you find this test...could you pass it along to me?? :)

Seriously, though...the only way to know is to really get to know the person. And unfortunately, the women haters club members usually don't present themselves until they are asked to actually be responsible.

In all seriousness....every person is different. There are a fair share of women out there that are gold diggers, I wouldn't deny that. And, there are a fair share of wonderful men out there that would do anything for their children, even though they are not "with" the child's mother. They are true fathers!

Unfortunately we live in a society where the bad seeds seem to cloud out the good ones. It's just a matter of getting out the weed wacker and sifting through the bad ones.

[Tredici]

Well, one of my next door neighbors raised two boys and one girl into adulthood, and the boys threw parties when mom and dad were away, and were rather 'scruffy looking,' though most of the high school boys look that way too. But I imagine they knew they'd break their lovely mother's heart if they acted like jerk idiot girl-haters.

The guy across the street's got a kid my daughter's age in the same school as her. I think the chances of my daughter going out with him are slim to none, but his father would break his legs if he was a jerk idiot girl-hater, and his ex-wife would hit him with a kitchen implement.

But then there's the three toe-d lawyer down the street. Lost two toes dove hunting when his shotgun discharged accidentally. His three boys sort of live up off by themselves in an addition he added-on on top of his garage. I think they view girls sort of like deer.

Weird to think of Little Girl Dog as Preteen Female Dog. We've all been screwing around on the internet far too long.....

Basically you are on the right track. Find any kid from a stable family environment and there is a good chance a normal and productive citizen will eventually emerge from the adolescent.

And seriously, you'll be able to tell. Just remember if one shows up you can't stand, never tell the daughter. It will be like issuing a challenge.