If Jake throws picks in week one, will you...

[Circle Orange]

1. throw things on the field? :clown:
2. call for Cutler? :mullet1:
3. shout encouragement? :charge:
4. curse? :troll:
5. call shanahan a bum? :pfbbt:
6. engage in fights with other fans you disagree with? :gripe:
7. run on the field an attempt a completion yourself? :afro:

[GonzoLays]

If Jake throws a pick in week one? Just chalk it up as another Sunday with Jake Plummer as your QB. You did watch the playoffs, right?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

How many Bronco fans are going to be in St. Louis to do some of those things?

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I will blame it on our master hair stylist Circle Orange

[Rock Chalk]

8. Not come to the Orangemane for a while.

[Merlin]

Consider in the context of how it happened, later in the context of his whole game, and the next day in the context of it being just one game.

[Rock Chalk]

Consider in the context of how it happened, later in the context of his whole game, and the next day in the context of it being just one game.

Too bad the local yahoos wont, hence the reason for option 8.

[Garcia Bronco]

I don't care...I just want to enjoy so wins.....for all our bitching...this is a 32 regular season win team over the past three seasons.

[Merlin]

Too bad the local yahoos wont, hence the reason for option 8.
Yeah, I remember some of the posts after last yr's Miami game, and worst yet after the Giants loss. Talking of which, I have not noticed many posts by BS of late.

[loborugger]

As a typical Bronco fan, I will do all the above, plus burn any Plummer paraphenalia I have laying around.

Seriously, the dude is gonna throw a pick by week 2 (as will Manning, Brady, McNabb, etc)... This will be fun place then.

[CBF1]

Where is the "As expected" or "Jake being Jake" choice?

[Circle Orange]

LOL, a good fan leaps from one assumption and jumps to another conclusion. So in the tradition of not making sense, here's more options:

8. Get a group to wear both 'Jake' and 'Jay' t shirts at the tailgate parties. Fun will ensue once everyone has a few beers!

9. Bring a suitable amount of bail money.

[Vega$Bronco]

Depends on the circumstances. Did we win? Did the INTs result in our loss? What type of pick was it - was the ball tipped; did the wide receiver totally get juked by the corner; was Jake rushed and threw a ball he shouldn't have? These are things I would take into consideration.

[Rock Chalk]

Yeah, I remember some of the posts after last yr's Miami game, and worst yet after the Giants loss. Talking of which, I have not noticed many posts by BS of late.

Hey, the Miami game was a justified bitch fest. We came out looking like garbage all the way around and the whole team was horrible. The Giants game we got screwed by the refs who refused to call blatant holding calls against the Giants particularly on that "game winning" drive they had. ****ing bull**** still pisses me off.

[Rock Chalk]

Where is the "As expected" or "Jake being Jake" choice?

Are you talking? All I see is asian titties.

[Paladin]

It is interesting that Jake fosters two distinct camps: either he is a very good QB or he is not a very good QB. I have not seen many posters here who are less passionate about him, either way. Strange.

For myself, I would want to see the circumstances in which the intercetion/fumble or other play took place. Further, I would think the rest of the team would have some part in the play, particularly the Oline and the WR/TE. So, I am basically less impassioned about Jake, and more passionate about the team as a whole.

[Rigs11]

jake wont throw a pick till the fourth game.

[Taco John]

I think Jake will probably have a bad first game, and then settle down in week two... Like always.

I'm not worried about Jake in September - November. It's once the games start to become "must wins" that I become alarmed.

[BroncoFanDoug]

[QUOTE=Paladin;1248238]It is interesting that Jake fosters two distinct camps: either he is a very good QB or he is not a very good QB. I have not seen many posters here who are less passionate about him, either way. Strange.[QUOTE]

Actually, over the past 2 years I have continually tried to make this point - Jake is a good qb (probably top quartile, definitely top 1/3) and not a true franchise qb. He brings a lot of good things (mobility, leadership, passion for winning) and some bad things (bone-headed plays, not a great deep arm). He has gotten better at Denver, and he can continue to improve, and it will not be dramatic or move him to a top tier qb.

With the right team, he could win a SB, and he won't carry a team there on his shoulders. I like having him, and I have hopes that Cutler will eventually prove to be a better QB.

[plummershelper]

I'll be at the game and scream choice 4!!!

[Merlin]

Hey, the Miami game was a justified b**** fest. We came out looking like garbage all the way around and the whole team was horrible.
True, but some people were talking as if the season had ended, which was a little early to conclude.

Note: I should clarify that BS reference related to BloodySunday (but the acronym also fit many of his posts)

[Kaylore]

Where's the "evolve into a new creature of pure energy" option?

[Tredici]

If Tatum fumbles the ball, what will you do?

If Javon tips a ball subsequently intercepted what will you do?

If Lynch misses a tackle and it goes the distance what will you do?

If Foster misses a block and Jake gets creamed what will you do?

Criminy. Might as well generate a little more negative energy.

[Hogan11]

If Tatum fumbles the ball, what will you do?.

Call for Dayne Ha!

If Javon tips a ball subsequently intercepted what will you do?.

Call for Lelie Ha!

If Lynch misses a tackle and it goes the distance what will you do?.

Blame Kennedy, excuse me, Fergy because everyone knows Lynch is above reproach Ha!

If Foster misses a block and Jake gets creamed what will you do?

Easy, call for Cutler because it'll be Jake's fault for not getting out of the way Ha!

Criminy. Might as well generate a little more negative energy.

What the hell....it's not like that new age mojo crap means anything anyways.....:P

[Kaylore]

Criminy. Might as well generate a little more negative energy.

Not if I evolve into pure energy first! HA!

[Pontius Pirate]

Any QB who throws an INT is horrible. INT's are for p__sies. Chuck Norris wouldn't throw an INT. If Jake throws an INT, the season is over. OVER!!!

[SureShot]

1. throw things on the field? :clown:
2. call for Cutler? :mullet1:
3. shout encouragement? :charge:
4. curse? :troll:
5. call shanahan a bum? :pfbbt:
6. engage in fights with other fans you disagree with? :gripe:
7. run on the field an attempt a completion yourself? :afro:

Not be suprised.

[Broncos4Life]

The question is how many picks will Plummer throw in week 1?

[-Slap-]

How many picks?

[Lidderer]

one picks [sic]

[Circle Orange]

If Tatum fumbles the ball, what will you do?

If Javon tips a ball subsequently intercepted what will you do?

If Lynch misses a tackle and it goes the distance what will you do?

If Foster misses a block and Jake gets creamed what will you do?

Criminy. Might as well generate a little more negative energy.



1. panic
2. freak out
3. run in circles
4. start buggin'
5. no neg, all in fun. FUN!!!!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'll just watch and laugh.

[orange 4 life]

1. throw things on the field? :clown:
2. call for Cutler? :mullet1:
3. shout encouragement? :charge:
4. curse? :troll:
5. call shanahan a bum? :pfbbt:
6. engage in fights with other fans you disagree with? :gripe:
7. run on the field an attempt a completion yourself? :afro:

REGARDLESS of who you like, who you want to play, etc., the only thing anyone SHOULD do is #3.

crazy concept i know, but actually supporting the guys on the field would be nice.

[bendog]

What time's the game? I need to know that before I can decide what I'd be drinking.

[Tredici]

1. panic
2. freak out
3. run in circles
4. start buggin'
5. no neg, all in fun. FUN!!!!


I don't consider when bad things happen to good teams to be fun. But whatever floats your boat.

[Steve Sewell]

1. throw things on the field? :clown:
2. call for Cutler? :mullet1:
3. shout encouragement? :charge:
4. curse? :troll:
5. call shanahan a bum? :pfbbt:
6. engage in fights with other fans you disagree with? :gripe:
7. run on the field an attempt a completion yourself? :afro:

Option 8. yawn...for me. Have you seen STL's defense? They are horrible. If/when he throws a pick, it won't matter anyway.

[Steve Sewell]

Are you talking? All I see is asian titties.

CBF1 can never be taken seriously around here with his avatar. Even when he tries to have a serious discussion, all people can do is ask him about his avatar! LOL

[Steve Sewell]

REGARDLESS of who you like, who you want to play, etc., the only thing anyone SHOULD do is #3.

crazy concept i know, but actually supporting the guys on the field would be nice.

friggin' homer...:chairhit:

[KSigBrothers]

Just chalk it up as 1 INT, even Manning throws a couple a season, but Im sure Kisla and the rest of the knuckleheads in the Denver Media (we dont have a single readable columnist since Shefter left the post) will be calling for Cutler right away.

[Hotrod]

8. Not come to the Orangemane for a while.

I think this would be the best option. If Jake has a bad hell even just average game the following week will be hell on the mane.

[Tredici]

I think this would be the best option. If Jake has a bad hell even just average game the following week will be hell on the mane.

I don't think so. Jake is Jake. As long as it doesn't result as the difference in the game score no one is much going to care.

[Taco John]

I don't think so. Jake is Jake. As long as it doesn't result as the difference in the game score no one is much going to care.



I agree. I don't think Jake honestly gets too much unfair criticism. If he throws a pick, and we still win the game, nobody will say much. If he throws two picks, and it's the difference between a win and a loss, eyebrows will be raised, but for the most part people will dismiss it as the first week of the season, and Jake always has a bad week 1.

I think that there is a crowd that is over-reactive of criticism of Jake, and that's where you see these "head them off at the pass" threads. Jake is going to get plenty of slack early on. He'd have to really be blowing it for the fan-base to turn on him mid-season. And as we've seen, even if he's throwing shallow-field interceptions that the other team is converting into points, the defense will take the blame for him.

[Northman]

I think that there is a crowd that is over-reactive of criticism of Jake, and that's where you see these "head them off at the pass" threads.


Noooooooooo, you dont say? Ha! Hilarious!

[Hotrod]

Taco your insane if you dont believe their will be idiots flooding this very board if Jake comes out and has a bad game week 1. There will be calls for his head. Tell you what lets wager Bobos Avatar on it ;D

[DeusExManning]

Where's the "evolve into a new creature of pure energy" option?

LOL, I would become Q and transport Jake into the Delta Quadrant. I would wait until he had three interceptions though.

[Taco John]

Taco your insane if you dont believe their will be idiots flooding this very board if Jake comes out and has a bad game week 1. There will be calls for his head. Tell you what lets wager Bobos Avatar on it ;D



It's a deal... If Jake throws a pick in week one, you start a poll on whether we should bench Jake and start Cut. If it's so much as 40% or more, then I'll admit I was wrong and you can have Bob's avatar. But if it's 39% or less, then you admit you were wrong, and I'll continue to own Bob's avatar.

Deal?

[Rohirrim]

I'll throw my .50 cal in the back of the pickup, strap on some ammo and lock and load baby, and then.... wait. No. That's Alec.

I'll just throw some guacamole at the TV.

[HolyDiver]

I won't be all that upset just because he throws an interception...............but more on HOW he throws an interception.................If the defender makes a good play, that's one thing. But if he throws into coverage out of panic, when he should have just thrown it away...........well then I'll be pissed.

[Hotrod]

It's a deal... If Jake throws a pick in week one, you start a poll on whether we should bench Jake and start Cut. If it's so much as 40% or more, then I'll admit I was wrong and you can have Bob's avatar. But if it's 39% or less, then you admit you were wrong, and I'll continue to own Bob's avatar.

Deal?

LOL your on boss.

Althou I was talking about the board in general. You know the gig where the front page gets over run with "Is this Jakes fault" "Is the old Jake back" "Did Jake let down the team" "Im tired of Shanny cutting the playbook" blah blah blah....

[Rock Chalk]

I'll throw my .50 cal in the back of the pickup, strap on some ammo and lock and load baby, and then.... wait. No. That's Alec.

I'll just throw some guacamole at the TV.

Oooh, you got a .50 cal? I so want one of those!

[Florida_Bronco]

It's a deal... If Jake throws a pick in week one, you start a poll on whether we should bench Jake and start Cut. If it's so much as 40% or more, then I'll admit I was wrong and you can have Bob's avatar. But if it's 39% or less, then you admit you were wrong, and I'll continue to own Bob's avatar.

Deal?

I thought Atlas owned Bob's avatar?

[Hotrod]

I thought Atlas owned Bob's avatar?

Dont matter I wont win a flat out poll like that anyway.

[Kaylore]

LOL, I would become Q and transport Jake into the Delta Quadrant. I would wait until he had three interceptions though.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=5649&dateline=1156835359
Who is she? She looks familiar...

[Taco John]

LOL your on boss.

Althou I was talking about the board in general. You know the gig where the front page gets over run with "Is this Jakes fault" "Is the old Jake back" "Did Jake let down the team" "Im tired of Shanny cutting the playbook" blah blah blah....



Yeah, but half of those threads are made just to see if Meffley will melt down again... ;D :poke:

[Circle Orange]

I don't consider when bad things happen to good teams to be fun. But whatever floats your boat.

It wasn't about that at all.

[ZONA]

It all depends on what kind of INT it is.

If he throws a pick with his right hand, I can live with it.

If he throws another pick with his left hand, he should be put on the bench.

[Hulamau]

Here is a better poll: 'What will you do when Jake throws 4 TDS in St. Louis?'

[Hulamau]

Seriously, even folks that want Cutler so bad it hurts need to realize its not only in Jake's and the team's best interest, but also Cutler's that JAke plays well and not stink it up early this year.

We dont need any QB controversy or fans running Jake out of town as that would mean we're going down in flames. Let the process happen naturally as a matter rof course and everyone will be happy ... except KC and Fade fans.

We've likely got another 16 years ahead to enjoy Jay bringing SB titles to Denver and tormenting the Camero and Battery-chunkin' crowds, why not enjoy Jake bringing a title of his own to Mile High city!

Shanahan will know when to start the new era in the unlikely event Jake comes unglued or, 'knock on wood', goes down.

Just be happy its all set and we've got both the present AND future on the bench. Ther is no need to gnash any teeth at all this year.

[watermock]

where is the "Call for Brett Favre option?"

[watermock]

If Jake has a bad outing, he's going to hear chants of "Rocket Man or Jay" and flip the fird again.

This time tho, there an actual contendern not a QB named BVP witch I once confused with BVD underwear.

[Dagmar]

If Jake has a bad outing, he's going to hear chants of "Rocket Man or Jay" and flip the fird again.

This time tho, there an actual contendern not a QB named BVP witch I once confused with BVD underwear.

Anyone who starts chanting that pish early is someone who hasn't got the teams best interests at heart. A season like last for Jake could mean a Superbowl. Starting Jay would almost certainly not. We are so close, the future is in waiting, but not for this year.

By the beard of zeus have a good year Jake!

[Circle Orange]

If Jake were to struggle a bit? Is it possible the Broncos are in a similar situation to Cincinnati a couple of years ago, or even the Chargers? A young hotshot qb who looks good and has promise vs the vet who has learned the system and is playing well. I'm wondering if the organization has already decided that Jake has gone about as far as he will. (not that they would tell us) The only problem is that Cutler isn't ready yet, despite looking good in preaseason. But Shanny's known for bold moves. I wouldn't put it past him to shake up things if Jake does struggle.

The best non quarterback controversy lies in Denver. :approve:

[Rock Chalk]

Jesus CHrist how many times are you going to ask the same stupid ****ing question in different wording?

[Clockwork Orange]

Before the preseason, I'd have said no chance.

Now? I could see it happening. I don't think it's likely, but if Shanahan decides that Cutler gives the team a better chance to win right now than Plummer, he'll do it.

It has happened before.

http://www.cnnsi.com/football/nfl/1999/preview/teams/news/1999/07/31/afc_west_broncos/t1_brister_all_01.jpghttp://espn-att.starwave.com/media/photo/1999/september/01/s_0901brian.jpg

[Circle Orange]

Jesus CHrist how many times are you going to ask the same stupid ****ing question in different wording?

I don't know about Jesus, but I haven't asked anything the same way in different words. If it bothers you so much don't respond.

[baja]

If Jake Falters He Will Get A Quick Hook

[Binkythefrog]

Well we all know what happened to Bubby Brister. I think Shannahan learned from that because the team didn't react well to his benching, and we started terribly that year.

I think that given his prior experience pulling a well-liked veteran quarterback, Shannahan would be patient with Jake. I only see it happening if Jake throws more than 8 ints in his first 4 games and we lose a bunch of games out of the gate.

[Tredici]

I don't know about Jesus, but I haven't asked anything the same way in different words. If it bothers you so much don't respond.

I think this same question has been asked in recent days. But we all enjoy Alec's tactful touch.

:approve:

[Clockwork Orange]

Well we all know what happened to Bubby Brister. I think Shannahan learned from that because the team didn't react well to his benching, and we started terribly that year.

I think that given his prior experience pulling a well-liked veteran quarterback, Shannahan would be patient with Jake. I only see it happening if Jake throws more than 8 ints in his first 4 games and we lose a bunch of games out of the gate.

I just think that Shanahan will always go with the guys that he believes gives the team the best chance to win. If he decides that Cutler is better for the team this year than Plummer, he'll make the switch. He's not concerned with anyone's feelings on the matter.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

No.

[theAPAOps5]

Well we all know what happened to Bubby Brister. I think Shannahan learned from that because the team didn't react well to his benching, and we started terribly that year.

I think that given his prior experience pulling a well-liked veteran quarterback, Shannahan would be patient with Jake. I only see it happening if Jake throws more than 8 ints in his first 4 games and we lose a bunch of games out of the gate.

I wouldn't say Bubby was well like and neither is Jake. I would say if you took a poll the majority would say they like what they see in Cutler more than they do Jake. That might not be fair to Jake but Bronco Fans have memories like Elephants and Jake is going to get blamed for the AFC Champ. game and be compared to Elway, both of which are not his fault. Cutler has a lot of Elway-esque talet so people are naturally going to gravitate to him.

[ignitionnight]

The team would have to be heading for a 8-8 record for Shanahan to even contemplate this.

Cutler will not see the field if Plummer stays healthy.

[snowspot66]

I wouldn't say Bubby was well like and neither is Jake. I would say if you took a poll the majority would say they like what they see in Cutler more than they do Jake. That might not be fair to Jake but Bronco Fans have memories like Elephants and Jake is going to get blamed for the AFC Champ. game and be compared to Elway, both of which are not his fault. Cutler has a lot of Elway-esque talet so people are naturally going to gravitate to him.

I think he meant well liked guy by the players. Not well liked for his amazing football skills.

[Arkansas Bronco]

where is the "Call for Brett Favre option?"

HotRod used that up a couple months ago.

[ZONA]

Jake isn't going to start off badly or anything like that. Are you kidding? We're going 13-3 again and winning the frickin superbowl man. This is the year baby. Damn straight.:thumbsup:

[NFLBRONCO]

90% of casual fans always like #2 QB.

As a big Cutler homer as I am it would be in his and the teams best for him to sit all of 06.

I'm not sure how quick Shanny will give Jake the hook this year but, one thing is for sure Cutler isn't a typical rookie he has poise and no happy feet like most rookies have so that might work in his favor to playing time in 06. I do realize Cutler STILL needs exp and he will make stupid throws and have bad games but, you see the ability he has and like it or not Jakes days are numbered.

[orange 4 life]

I wouldn't say Bubby was well like and neither is Jake. I would say if you took a poll the majority would say they like what they see in Cutler more than they do Jake. That might not be fair to Jake but Bronco Fans have memories like Elephants and Jake is going to get blamed for the AFC Champ. game and be compared to Elway, both of which are not his fault. Cutler has a lot of Elway-esque talet so people are naturally going to gravitate to him.

....and then these awesome young bronco fans with their elephant-like memories will blame cutler after we lose in the '08 and '09 playoffs (assuming we get there).
cutler will have played his ass off mind you, but he'll try to force one in like he did thursday (he'll do this his ENTIRE career. just an FYI. write it down.), and it will get intercepted.
we'll be trailing by 3 scores, and he'll just be trying to get us back in the game, but people will blame him anyway.

then, the inevitable "cutler sucks" threads will be in full force, and someone like me will be called a "cutler homer" because i point out all too regularly that giving up 35 points in one HALF has nothing to do with the qb.
remember, you all had plummer avatars 3 short years ago, and we've gone 10-6, 10-6, and 13-3 in that time.
we've also given up 41, 49 (35 1st half), and 34 points in our 3 playoff losses. not exactly solid defense, and if our playoff defense doesnt change, cutler wont make a difference.
ill support him anyway, but he'll take the fall, and the cycle repeats itself.
how fun.

[Tredici]

Let's accuse everyone of the half empty glass, Jake. You are really starting to represent the old adage misery loves company.

Denver has a fine football team, fine players, and fine fans. Let's not celebrate that. Let's worry about things that haven't happened yet.

Everyone in here is pulling for Plummer to have a fine year. If you want to be blind to that, have at it. You are taking this theme to the point of ridiculous, though.

[Cito Pelon]

I've been trying to stay out of this QB controversy, but I have to say it's going to be difficult to watch the kid riding the pine this year while Jake is being Jake. The contrast between the two in how they move the chains is just too great to forget about once the season starts.

[Tredici]

Okay. Everyone is pulling for Jake except Cito...

Hilarious!

But I think he knows Cutler really isn't ready to take the reins and ride the horse through the big boys -yet.

[Orange_Beard]

I just hope he has 3 td passes to go along with it.

[Cito Pelon]

Okay. Everyone is pulling for Jake except Cito...

Hilarious!

But I think he knows Cutler really isn't ready to take the reins and ride the horse through the big boys -yet.

The percentages say go with Jake. I do have a brain that speculates, though. It's a curse.

[orange 4 life]

Okay. Everyone is pulling for Jake except Cito...

Hilarious!

But I think he knows Cutler really isn't ready to take the reins and ride the horse through the big boys -yet.

tred, i think there are ALOT more like cito.

also, if you were at the games, you'd see that the knowledge level there (since it is 76k from all walks of life) in some cases isnt up to par.
there will be more than a few fans who boo plummer when he takes the field in week one.
there are also plenty of good solid bronco fans who will support the team regardless, and will cheer whoever is on the field.
once we get into the season, i for one will just be worrying about this year.
as for the people more concerned with the future (and how soon it should come) than the present, ill just try to ignore them. more fun that way.

[Kaylore]

there will be more than a few fans who boo plummer when he takes the field in week one.
Well we open on the road, so I wouldn't take it personally, O4L.

there are also plenty of good solid bronco fans who will support the team regardless, and will cheer whoever is on the field.
once we get into the season, i for one will just be worrying about this year.
as for the people more concerned with the future (and how soon it should come) than the present, ill just try to ignore them. more fun that way.

I think most of the fans trust Shanahan. If they start Jake, then Shanahan believes that he's the guy that will give us the best chance to win. We like Cutler, but we like winning more.

[orange 4 life]

.....oh, and we already have a "denvers next backup" thread up and getting attention, so i think its safe to say ALOT of people are looking past plummer already.

frankly, it doesnt change my life either way. its not like plummer is a friend of mine.
its just that its alot more fun as a fan when everyones on the same page.
when the common goal and the PATH to the common goal are united amongst all.
more fun that way. simple as that.

[orange 4 life]

Well we open on the road, so I wouldn't take it personally, O4L.


ha ha ha. :rofl:

i think you knew what i meant. :thumbsup:

[Cito Pelon]

tred, i think there are ALOT more like cito.

also, if you were at the games, you'd see that the knowledge level there (since it is 76k from all walks of life) in some cases isnt up to par.
there will be more than a few fans who boo plummer when he takes the field in week one.
there are also plenty of good solid bronco fans who will support the team regardless, and will cheer whoever is on the field.
once we get into the season, i for one will just be worrying about this year.
as for the people more concerned with the future (and how soon it should come) than the present, ill just try to ignore them. more fun that way.

O4L, I can speculate, ok? I can guarantee you I'd never boo the Broncos or any individual players at Mile High. I'm a never say die type.

[orange 4 life]

O4L, I can speculate, ok? I can guarantee you I'd never boo the Broncos or any individual players at Mile High. I'm a never say die type.


:thumbsup: ^5