View Full Version : Best Teams when dealing with adversity
Derger_Louis
08-29-2006, 01:36 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview06/columns/story?columnist=smith_michael&id=2564812
3. Denver
Bill Belichick has won one more Super Bowl and Cowher is the most recent to hoist the Lombardi Trophy, but Mike Shanahan arguably still is the game's best head coach. The Broncos have endured just one losing season in Shanahan's 11 seasons. Since 1995, no coach has won more games than Shanahan's 122. Denver has remained one of the league's model franchises through changes at quarterback, running back, wherever. Without question, the Broncos are the most consistent team.
Shanahan has great coordinators by his side, Mike Heimerdinger (offense) and Larry Coyer (defense). General manager Ted Sundquist lives in Shanahan's shadow, but he's a top-notch front-office executive. Jake Plummer proved last year that he could lead a team deep into the playoffs, and behind him now is one of the preseason's most impressive rookies, Jay Cutler. No need to even get into the running game, right? We know the Broncos are going to do that. Plus, for the first time since Ed McCaffrey, really, Rod Smith has a sidekick. Javon Walker was one of the offseason's biggest acquisitions, a former No. 1 receiver in Green Bay who will, for now, take a backseat to Smith.
The Broncos' first-team defense hasn't allowed a touchdown to its first-team counterparts in 10 series this preseason. The Broncos have really good depth along the defensive line. Their linebacking trio of Al Wilson, D.J. Williams and Ian Gold is the fastest, if not the best, in the league. The Broncos have a shutdown corner in Champ Bailey and an enforcer at safety in John Lynch.
Once again, all the pieces are in place for the Broncos to make a run at that elusive third Super Bowl title. They were a win short of the Super Bowl last year and might have gotten better in the offseason. They should contend again. They have strong leaders in Smith, Plummer, Lynch, Bailey, Wilson and Tom Nalen. And it doesn't get any better than Shanahan at head coach.
GonzoLays
08-29-2006, 01:40 PM
Best team dealing with adversity? I would have to say John Fox's Carolina Panthers. Wasn't it just two seasons ago that half their starting lineup went down to injuries and he still kept them in the playoff chase? That was very impressive.
Bob's your Information Minister
08-29-2006, 01:43 PM
Jake Plummer proved last year that he could lead a team deep into the playoffs
:rofl:
watermock
08-29-2006, 01:45 PM
Adversity? We don't accept no stinkin' adversity. They are challenges.
goldengopher1976
08-29-2006, 01:46 PM
Best team dealing with adversity? I would have to say John Fox's Carolina Panthers. Wasn't it just two seasons ago that half their starting lineup went down to injuries and he still kept them in the playoff chase? That was very impressive.
That's what the article says too...
Dagmar
08-29-2006, 01:48 PM
:rofl:
AFC Championship game = deep into the playoffs.
Rock Chalk
08-29-2006, 01:56 PM
AFC Championship game = deep into the playoffs.
Bob wouldnt know.
Phantom
08-29-2006, 02:04 PM
"Without question, the Broncos are the most consistent team."
Quoted for accuracy.
Jetmeck
08-29-2006, 02:18 PM
Bob wouldnt know.
Exactly Bobbo is the stat master.......Hilarious!
But when you talk about the playoffs he has no frame of reference. I doubt he remembers the last time KC won a playoff game and he most definitely was decades away from being born the last time they won a championship.
It must seriously suck to be the fan of such a pathetic
organization.
Jetmeck
08-29-2006, 02:24 PM
"Without question, the Broncos are the most consistent team."
Quoted for accuracy.
Exactly just for your appreciation I quote a chart throwed up during the Texans/Broncos game.
"Since Shanahan became coach the Broncos are NUMERO UNO ....#1........THE BEST IN THE NFL..............in"
Most wins
Most rushing yardage
Most total yards
Most points
That about says it all.....................
Hail ..... Shanny :thumbsup:
DBroncos4life
08-29-2006, 02:33 PM
Bob wouldnt know.
He does know alot about going deep with farm animals though.
55CrushEm
08-29-2006, 03:30 PM
He does know alot about going deep with farm animals though.
Well, he may go with farm animals.....but I seriously doubt that he goes "deep".....in any situation of that kind.
PatsWin2002
08-29-2006, 03:33 PM
Michael Smith is a former Boston Globe columnist and local media figure.
It seems to me like he was afraid of being homeristic and putting his Patriots too high.....or just had to extend the list to 7 to get them on there.
Just seems weird.
Another list, another day .......carry on. :)
KipCorrington25
08-29-2006, 03:51 PM
The Chargers are the worst at dealing with adversity. A couple injuries or maybe even a couple games on the road and they fold up like a pup tent every year.
rovolution
08-29-2006, 04:21 PM
:rofl:
What are you laughing about? Your team hasnt seen an AFC Champ. Game since Joe Montana reluctantly (you could tell Montana wanted to stay in SanFran. instead of a mediocre team like the Chefs and that Montana really hated being a Chef) donned a Chiefs uniform for the end of his career.
Ballhawk
08-29-2006, 04:44 PM
:rofl:
Bootleg, Turly at LT, Kennison & Parker starting WRs, KC D, and Herm
So much to laugh about...
Merlin
08-29-2006, 05:51 PM
:rofl:
Talk about leaving yourself open to ridicule. You are a sucker for punishment/a $lut for attention.
Florida_Bronco
08-29-2006, 05:52 PM
AFC Championship game = deep into the playoffs.
Question for Bob: Which quarterback would you be most confident in should he have to carry a team on his back into the playoffs...
Jake Plummer or Trent Green?
bombquixote
08-29-2006, 06:58 PM
Question for Bob: Which quarterback would you be most confident in should he have to carry a team on his back into the playoffs...
Jake Plummer or Trent Green?
I guarantee Bob will say Trent Green. I know Bob's type. I teach special ed.
Florida_Bronco
08-29-2006, 07:12 PM
I guarantee Bob will say Trent Green. I know Bob's type. I teach special ed.
:spit:
Garcia Bronco
08-29-2006, 07:19 PM
Every problem is an opportunity in disguise.
Cito Pelon
08-29-2006, 08:29 PM
It has irritated me for a long time how Denver deals with "adversity" - on gameday. By that I mean being behind in the first half, or seeing a couple big plays by the opposition. The team does not respond well, and neither does Shanahan on the sideline. A bad play or two on D tends to snowball. A 3and out on O tends to be 3 consecutive 3andouts.
And Denver has poor 2-minute drills on both sides of the ball. That's a big deal if you're having a rough first half.
goldengopher1976
08-30-2006, 12:17 AM
It has irritated me for a long time how Denver deals with "adversity" - on gameday. By that I mean being behind in the first half, or seeing a couple big plays by the opposition. The team does not respond well, and neither does Shanahan on the sideline. A bad play or two on D tends to snowball. A 3and out on O tends to be 3 consecutive 3andouts.
And Denver has poor 2-minute drills on both sides of the ball. That's a big deal if you're having a rough first half.
I don't remember that being the case so much before Plummer/Griese...wonder if it reflects more on the leadership on the field or on the sideline. I do know that I get a sinking feeling when Jake throws an INT that I'm going to see it repeated--boom or bust (so to speak; after all, he's winning us games).
Bob's your Information Minister
08-30-2006, 03:30 AM
I guarantee Bob will say Trent Green. I know Bob's type. I teach special ed.
I've seen Green play in the playoffs...he was great. We didn't punt.
Next.
Kaylore
08-30-2006, 03:42 AM
I've seen Green play in the playoffs...he was great. We didn't punt.
Next.
Your team is being made into a bunch of marshmallows. Short workouts, overrested players, no depth - just mental wussies. I think you'll appreciate the ability to overcome adversity when they fold like an old tent in a tornado this season.
Bob's your Information Minister
08-30-2006, 03:48 AM
Whatever. Herm's approach worked for the Jets.
The team I saw on Saturday night wasn't soft.
You simply can't be soft when you field one of the best running games and run defenses in the NFL.
kamakazi_kal
08-30-2006, 04:06 AM
Whatever. Herm's approach worked for the Jets.
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:spit: :thumbsup: what an a$$
watermock
08-30-2006, 04:24 AM
Yeah, he was coach of the year after a 4-12 season.
Your such an idiot. He lost less games than we won and your buying into the propoganda?
Look you dimwit...till they get rid of that idiot GM your not going anywhere. Losing Vermiel and Al Saunders was nothing, they have Hermie and Solari and King Karl.
God your an idiot. K.C. might find the basement this year.
Florida_Bronco
08-30-2006, 07:58 AM
I've seen Green play in the playoffs...he was great. We didn't punt.
Next.
If Trent Green and Jake Plummer were both on the same team with a "middle of the road" offense, Jake Plummer would start and perform better than Green.
bombquixote
08-30-2006, 12:50 PM
I've seen Green play in the playoffs...he was great. We didn't punt.
Next.
Tell it to the Colts.
Next.
16-JakE-16
08-30-2006, 12:59 PM
keep it up, bob. it really is comical how you can ruffle everyone's feathers
Hotrod
08-30-2006, 12:59 PM
Whatever. Herm's approach worked for the Jets.
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Herm took over an NFL team when he started in NY and left a NFLE calibur squad behind. Enjoy watching him do the same in KC
PatsWin2002
08-30-2006, 01:22 PM
Has Herm burned any time outs yet? ;)
Bob's your Information Minister
08-30-2006, 01:26 PM
C'mon, PatsWin. Your current head coach was run out of Cleveland.
I'm sure Herm has learned something from his first job.
Taco John
08-30-2006, 01:27 PM
You simply can't be soft when you field one of the best running games and run defenses in the NFL.
:rofl: ROFL! :loopy:
Taco John
08-30-2006, 01:30 PM
C'mon, PatsWin. Your current head coach was run out of Cleveland.
I'm sure Herm has learned something from his first job.
Yeah, but he had to go to another team and coach at a lesser level to let it all sink in... Same with Shanahan.
With the Jets, you got a bad coach who never had to pay for the fact that he's a bad coach. You guys REWARDED him for being a bad coach in the first place. What's his lesson?
You guys are going to miss your one playoff win per decade this time around.
Bob's your Information Minister
08-30-2006, 01:32 PM
I don't think Herm was a bad coach in New York. He had more success there than the Jets have had in a long time.
They went 4-12, sure, but it wasn't his fault. They got ****ing destroyed by injuries. No NFL team could have survived the same kind of injuries. Not even the mighty Denver Broncos. How many games would you guys have won with Bradlee Van Pelt?
We're replacing a head coach who had zero playoff wins in the last five years with one who had two playoff wins. I'm happy.
Florida_Bronco
08-30-2006, 01:46 PM
I don't think Herm was a bad coach in New York. He had more success there than the Jets have had in a long time.
They went 4-12, sure, but it wasn't his fault. They got ****ing destroyed by injuries. No NFL team could have survived the same kind of injuries. Not even the mighty Denver Broncos. How many games would you guys have won with Bradlee Van Pelt?
We're replacing a head coach who had zero playoff wins in the last five years with one who had two playoff wins. I'm happy.
No matter how many times it's spelled out for you, you never will get it, will you?
Hotrod
08-30-2006, 01:49 PM
No matter how many times it's spelled out for you, you never will get it, will you?
The funny part is he will get it of course not until Herm is done building another NFL shell of a team like he did in NY :giggle:
Hotrod
08-30-2006, 01:50 PM
:rofl: ROFL! :loopy:
Wait a second was bobo talking about the chefs when he said "best NFL run D" Hilarious! Holy Crap Hilarious! Hilarious!
Florida_Bronco
08-30-2006, 02:10 PM
Wait a second was bobo talking about the chefs when he said "best NFL run D" Hilarious! Holy Crap Hilarious! Hilarious!
Yeah, I didn't think that dribble was even worth replying too.
PatsWin2002
08-30-2006, 02:12 PM
C'mon, PatsWin. Your current head coach was run out of Cleveland.
I'm sure Herm has learned something from his first job.
I was thinking more of the in-game gaffes that Herm was known for in NY. He had a few beauts against us.
Belichick has always been a good gameday coach as far as I can remember. I think Herm may have a little "Martz" in him. We'll see.
BTW, we are all aware of BB's work in Cleveland. I suppose Herm is entitled to his own 2nd chance. Garcia still roots against Belichick and wills the "curse of Kosar" upon him! Ha!
Hotrod
08-30-2006, 02:14 PM
LOL the "curse of Kosar" Ha!
Bob's your Information Minister
08-30-2006, 02:37 PM
Wait a second was bobo talking about the chefs when he said "best NFL run D" Hilarious! Holy Crap Hilarious! Hilarious!
I never said we had the best NFL run D.