Dom Davis Cut?

[Rascal]

I knew this going into my draft, and I almost crapped my pants when Oskie mentioned the guy the guy I wanted (Lundy).

Here is the thread on the houston forum, and a link to an article discussing it.

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=27201

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/15383340.htm

"There's not much we can do about it, but I'm very concerned about that situation," Kubiak said. "I know it's been very frustrating for him. All we can do is be there for him. I'm more concerned about him right now and doing what's right for him."

Kubiak said he plans to meet with Davis, his doctors and agent before Houston's final preseason game Thursday. NFL rosters must be trimmed to 53 players by Saturday, but Kubiak has said he will make his final cuts Friday.

"That's going to be a big call this week," Kubiak said. "It will be a tough decision from a final 53 for us as a team. And we'll make that decision in the best interest of Domanick."

Davis has 3,195 yards and 23 touchdowns in three NFL seasons. If he can't play, Kubiak said rookie sixth-round draft Wali Lundy, who has been impressive in preseason, will be the starter.

[Los Broncos]

Wow, davis cut, lets get him.

[Taco John]

PICK HIM UP!!!!


/HUGE fan of Domanick

[Dukes]

PICK HIM UP!!!!


/HUGE fan of Domanick

Exactly! He won't last long on the market. I'm not that familiar with his running style but surely he could run for 1300 yds in our system.

[SoCalBronco]

He'd never last to us on waivers.

I'd like to think if Kubes decides to cut him, he'd call us up and hand him over for a 7th or 6th. At least that way he gets something, while helping his old club out in the process.

[Dagmar]

He'd never last to us on waivers.

I'd like to think if Kubes decides to cut him, he'd call us up and hand him over for a 7th or 6th. At least that way he gets something, while helping his old club out in the process.

God, I hope so, this would be a great pick up!

[Garcia Bronco]

he's getting cut for a reason

[ØrangeÇrush]

as a sleeper for ff, I wanted Lundy, but as this became more pronounced, I realized that I wanted no part of the Texans run game this year..


sorry for the miss-spells. I had my draft, and my share of beer tonight.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

He'd never last to us on waivers.

I'd like to think if Kubes decides to cut him, he'd call us up and hand him over for a 7th or 6th. At least that way he gets something, while helping his old club out in the process.

Or trade for Cobbs/Nash/Dayne or Adams/Devoe/Watts or Green/PJ/nate Jackson or any number of other bubble players

[SoCalBronco]

Or trade for Cobbs/Nash/Dayne or Adams/Devoe/Watts or Green/PJ/nate Jackson or any number of other bubble players

Yep, that would be great too.

[Taco John]

he's getting cut for a reason

Presumably the same reason they passed on Reggie Bush: They're blooming crazy over there!

Now admittedly, I gave them the benefit of a doubt on passing on Reggie Bush, but only because they've got Dom Davis.

[Garcia Bronco]

Bush won't live up to the hype....and D Davis for whatever reason isn't getting it done. I'd rather stick with MikE Bell and grow a winner. But we'll see.

[Barry Ramey]

Very odd what's happening there but you know if Davis gets cut, Houston will get hammered even more in the press for not taking Bush.

[Mtbrncofn]

Yikes. I almost drafted him tonight.

[ØrangeÇrush]

Kubiak is cleaning house, its very simple.

[goldengopher1976]

he's getting cut for a reason

My thoughts exactly. The last thing we need is another "?" on the team.

[Pezman]

Omfg ...

Pick him up Denver! Please!

[Steve Prefontaine]

If Dom Davis gets cut, it would only be due to his bad knees. The fear is that he has a degenerative condition similar to what T. Davis suffered through. That's not good news.

If he is healthy, the Texans won't cut him. If they do cut him, it means that his knees are in pretty bad shape. Either way, don't count on seeing him with the Broncos anytime soon.

[Rascal]

Omfg ...

Pick him up Denver! Please!

You had better hope so or your fantasy team is done for before week 1 ;D

[Clockwork Orange]

No question about it, they need to grab him if they can. Even if he has to spend a year on IR, get him anyway. He can keep Hixon company.

[SoCalBronco]

Even if he has to spend a year on IR, get him anyway. He can keep Hixon company.

And he can keep Eslinger company, too. ;D

[Atlas]

He'd never last to us on waivers.

I'd like to think if Kubes decides to cut him, he'd call us up and hand him over for a 7th or 6th. At least that way he gets something, while helping his old club out in the process.

There is no room for an injured RB with a large salary. Denver is set at RB. Denver has the back that will be the starter for the Broncos for the next 5-8 years. We just don't know which back it is.

[Atlas]

Why didn't they take Reggie Bush again?? I forgot.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

His knees are practically bone-on-bone and is looking like a Terrell Davis situation. Anyone that picks him up will have to do extensive homework on his health. Sucks for Dom. Not for me - Wali Lundy in round 14.

[Clockwork Orange]

Why didn't they take Reggie Bush again?? I forgot.

Because running backs come and go, elite pass rushers are a little trickier to find.

If Kubiak installs a system similar to Denver's, he doesn't need to pay a premium for a running back.

[Atlas]

Because running backs come and go, elite pass rushers are a little trickier to find.

If Kubiak installs a system similar to Denver's, he doesn't need to pay a premium for a running back.
OK yeah that was the line they were using:thumbs:

[Garcia Bronco]

And why would you...the odds are Reggie Bush will only be productive for 5 years. His speed is his greatest asset and he could lose it any play, but still comeback and play. I think in the end people are going to realize that NO got fleeced.

[Clockwork Orange]

OK yeah that was the line they were using:thumbs:

Yeah, because it hasn't worked here whatsoever. Good call. ::)

[Atlas]

Yeah, because it hasn't worked here whatsoever. Good call. ::)

We'll see. I personally don't think Williams will turn into anything. He is a workout warrior and doesn't have good technique, all his sacks came in 3 games against bad teams. I wouldn't be suprised if he never earns a probowl berth.

[Raider Bill]

I'm going to have to nab Wali Lundy in the 14th round........championship!

[Clockwork Orange]

We'll see. I personally don't think Williams will turn into anything. He is a workout warrior and doesn't have good technique, all his sacks came in 3 games against bad teams. I wouldn't be suprised if he never earns a probowl berth.

And Reggie Bush could end up being another great college player who flames out at the NFL level.

I'll take my chances with the pass rusher.

[ward63]

With Denver's cap like it is this year and being able to have a little room. Take the chance.

[Killericon]

He'd get 1800 yards in our system. Give him Portis money if you have to.

[maven]

Nah, he's injured. Stay away. No need to spend a roster spot on an injured player.

[Killericon]

Nah, he's injured. Stay away. No need to spend a roster spot on an injured player.

I'd rather let Dom sit the year out on our roster than have Damien Nash or Ron Dayne on the roster, and get 3 carries all year.

[Taco John]

Crap! I just had to drop Scheffler to pick up Wali Lundy in my keeper league... Oh well.. at least I have Randy McMichael.

[maven]

We'll see. I personally don't think Williams will turn into anything. He is a workout warrior and doesn't have good technique, all his sacks came in 3 games against bad teams. I wouldn't be suprised if he never earns a probowl berth.

Workout warrior? Teams were scared to run plays at Mario Williams. Watch the Vtech vs NCState game last season. Lots of the NCstate games were like this. Teams gameplan to stay away from Mario.

[ward63]

He'd get 1800 yards in our system. Give him Portis money if you have to.

Maybe Portis DRAFT money

[Atlas]

And Reggie Bush could end up being another great college player who flames out at the NFL level.

I'll take my chances with the pass rusher.

Houston really had three good choices on draft day.

1. They draft the QB they like best
2. They take Reggie Bush
3. They trade down and draft Fergusen or AJ Hawk.

Drafting Williams i believe will turn out to be a mistake, I'm usually right 50% of the time!

[Atlas]

Workout warrior? Teams were scared to run plays at Mario Williams. Watch the Vtech vs NCState game last season. Lots of the NCstate games were like this. Teams gameplan to stay away from Mario.


He had 7 of his 10 sacks against 3 very bad teams. Whenever he played a good team he got shut out. His stock only shot up after his combine workout.

[Killericon]

Maybe Portis DRAFT money

Well, he's injured, so I'd give him a Javon clone contract. He's on a really low salary this year, and is he recovers and performs, then we option him to a bigger contract.

Of course, we're getting ahead of ourselves. No way they cut Davis. Not a chance in hell.

[BroncoMan4ever]

He'd never last to us on waivers.

I'd like to think if Kubes decides to cut him, he'd call us up and hand him over for a 7th or 6th. At least that way he gets something, while helping his old club out in the process.

Kubes is a good guy but i doubt he would just hand over davis for a 6th or 7th round pick. I say send him a player who would more than likely end up cut off our roster anyway. Send them someone like David Terrell, or Middlebrooks and get Davis and let him heal up on IR. Because he can easily hit 1500 in denver. I mean if Kubes is even acknowledging questions about him being cut, then he would likely part with davis for a player that can contribute, considering that when healthy Davis can be a beast.

[maven]

He had 7 of his 10 sacks against 3 very bad teams. Whenever he played a good team he got shut out. His stock only shot up after his combine workout.


Um, hell no. Unfortunately, living in ACC country I was able to watch lots of NCState games. Teams were scared of him & literally gameplan away from him. Whether it's running the ball or rolling the QB away from him. Manny Lawson was the recipient of all the plays. He's the guy I would not have drafted. Mario has always been the stud.

[maven]

Send them someone like David Terrell, or Middlebrooks and get Davis and let him heal up on IR. Because he can easily hit 1500 in denver.

Why not just send Kubes 10 bags of peanuts...Hilarious!

[DBroncos4life]

Its because Davis told Kubes he liked Sega's game play better.

[watermock]

Kubiak is going to start 6th round Wali Lundy and you think Davis is worth crap?

Pass the pipe that's some good shiat. He's had like 3 decent games his whole career.

[DBroncos4life]

Kubiak is going to start 6th round Wali Lundy and you think Davis is worth crap?

Pass the pipe that's some good shiat. He's had like 3 decent games his whole career.

He has 3K and 23 Tds, thats three damn good game. Oh he had two 130 plus yard games last year ALONE. His career 4.1 yard avg and his 8.3 ypc aren't that bad either.

[watermock]

Why didn't they take Reggie Bush again?? I forgot.

Reggie had "issues" from improper payments that might send USC down the river to questionable behavior that came close to T.O. Houston tried to sign him and he was out of his mind.

Lendale White carried that running game, not Bush. Houston negotiated in good faith and Bush and Co. turned their nose up. Too bad, because Kubiak will make a silk purse out of a sows ear within two years. Hey, I know that I hammered Pubes for years, but he's not an idiot. I just hold our coaches to completely rediculous standards. As a rookie coach, I allready consider him in the upper half of the coaching fraternity.

[Rashomon]

Workout warrior? Teams were scared to run plays at Mario Williams. Watch the Vtech vs NCState game last season. Lots of the NCstate games were like this. Teams gameplan to stay away from Mario.

It's just one man's opinion on one game, but:

f. I watched every Denver offensive snap in the first half last night. Not to start raising eyebrows about Mario Williams, but I didn't see him make one play. And Mike Shanahan showed no hesitation about running Mike Bell right at him. Officially, Williams got credit for two tackles. I would say he had zero pressures of Jake Plummer from what I saw.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/08/28/mmqb.camps/4.html

[maven]

It's just one man's opinion on one game, but:

f. I watched every Denver offensive snap in the first half last night. Not to start raising eyebrows about Mario Williams, but I didn't see him make one play. And Mike Shanahan showed no hesitation about running Mike Bell right at him. Officially, Williams got credit for two tackles. I would say he had zero pressures of Jake Plummer from what I saw.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/08/28/mmqb.camps/4.html


Reggie Bush stats from Indy vs NO preseason game

5 carries, 22 yards
5 receptions, 20 yards

[Ray Finkle]

pass, his knee is held together with silly putty.

[Mediator12]

It's just one man's opinion on one game, but:

f. I watched every Denver offensive snap in the first half last night. Not to start raising eyebrows about Mario Williams, but I didn't see him make one play. And Mike Shanahan showed no hesitation about running Mike Bell right at him. Officially, Williams got credit for two tackles. I would say he had zero pressures of Jake Plummer from what I saw.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/08/28/mmqb.camps/4.html

That is correct, except you fail to mention that Williams received 6 double teams on passing plays ;D Scheffler blocking Williams was classic trial by fire.

[Mile High Shack]

he has gotten hurt every year he has been a pro and his knee is trashed

no thanks

[fontaine]

That is correct, except you fail to mention that Williams received 6 double teams on passing plays ;D Scheffler blocking Williams was classic trial by fire.


How's Scheffler's blocking seem to you? Is it good enough to get him on the field (esp in the red zone?).

He seemed to be picking up the passing offense allright, but if his blocking isn't up to scratch then we'll have another disapointing Jeb Putzier situation.

[chanesaw]

Damn, I have the guy in 2 leagues. I thought Kubes would get more out of the run game and Davis' numbers would skyrocket.

[MechanicalBull]

I like the guy and would love to have him here but I don't think there is any chance of that happening at all. Plus who knows what his real injury status is. I've read some reports saying that he will be ready to go by week 1 or maybe miss just a couple games and I've read other reports that they have no idea when he will come back and could miss the season.

I guess the good thing is the one league I have him in I also have McGahee, Jamal Lewis and both Bells

[ludo21]

I drafted Morency, i guess Lundy will have to be picked up in FA....

[bendog]

If Dayne can actually get on the field he might find a home in Hou, along with the other refugees.

[Rock Chalk]

I like double D and all, but he cant stay healthy.

[Rascal]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4147469.html

Running back Domanick Davis, the Texans' career rushing leader, is in danger of not making the team this season.

Davis, who missed five games in 2005, has not practiced since the first week of preseason because of a bruised left knee that is unrelated to the arthroscopic surgery he underwent on the same knee in December.

Unlike Wali Lundy and Vernand Morency, Davis has been unable to be on the field to impress his new coaching staff, specifically head coach Gary Kubiak and offensive coordinator Troy Calhoun. Kubiak said Monday that if the regular season began today, Lundy would start against Philadelphia.

Each day, Kubiak grows more concerned about Davis' lack of availability. The roster will be reduced to a final 53 on Friday, one day after the Texans close the preseason at home against Tampa Bay.

"I'm very concerned," Kubiak said. "There's not much we can do about it, but I'm very concerned about that situation.

"It'll be a tough decision for the final 53. We'll make the decision based on what's best for Domanick and the team."

The Texans will have several options. They can make Davis, 25, part of the final roster and wait for him to get healthy. They can place him on waivers. They can put him on injured reserve, which means he wouldn't play this season. They also could trade him, which is unlikely because he's damaged goods.

Davis, 5-9 and 227 pounds, can't be placed on the physically unable to perform list because he passed a physical before training camp.

Asked what has to happen for Davis to be on the 53-man roster, Kubiak said: "We have to see something that shows he's making a lot of progress. Before the game Thursday, we'll probably have a sit-down with Domanick, the doctors, possibly his agent and everybody involved in the process, to see where he is. That's going to be a big call.

"The farther we go without him being on the field, the tougher that decision becomes. And when I say tough, it doesn't necessarily mean that Domanick won't be on the 53-man roster. If he's definitely making progress and everybody thinks he's going to be able to play, then he will be (on the roster)."

Davis was on his way to a third consecutive 1,000-yard season a year ago but came up 24 yards short because of the knee injury. The surgery removed part of his lateral meniscus.

Davis didn't participate in the Texans' offseason program while rehabilitating his knee. When camp began, he was on the practice field for two days before suffering the bruised knee that has him sidelined.

"I see a guy that's done everything the doctors have asked him to do," Kubiak said. "He was feeling great on the first day of training camp. He was excited about the season. I watched him work for two days and watched the knee respond.

"I know it's been very frustrating for him. Last week, we set a schedule for him to follow, and I'm very encouraged by what he did. He ran well. It'll be interesting to see how he comes back."

Kubiak has emphasized since early in training camp that Davis has to prove he can practice before he can play. He won't play against the Buccaneers.

Lundy and Morency, who will enter the regular season as the top two backs unless the team acquires some competition for them, won't play against Tampa Bay. Antowain Smith and rookie Chris Taylor will share the playing time.

"They (Lundy and Morency) have played hard, and they've done a good job overall," Kubiak said. "Both are going to play, but if the season started (today), Lundy would be the starter, and Morency would play.

"Antowain is fresh because he hasn't played the last two games. This is a big night for him. We want to see him and Taylor. We've got a tough decision to make on those two."

Kubiak and general manager Rick Smith are looking at the waiver wire to bring in players at several positions.

"We'll be looking at linebackers very hard, and we'll be looking at running back hard," Kubiak said.

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When do they have to be at 53 players?

[Man-Goblin]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4147469.html


When do they have to be at 53 players?

Sunday....

So let me get this straight, the Texans would be in a worse RB situation than the Broncos, and people think they would just cut a good running back if they didn't have to?

If this guy hits the open market, unless he's picked up and IR'd immediately, the Broncos should stay away.

[Broncoman13]

I knew this going into my draft, and I almost crapped my pants when Oskie mentioned the guy the guy I wanted (Lundy).

Here is the thread on the houston forum, and a link to an article discussing it.

http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=27201

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/sports/15383340.htm

"There's not much we can do about it, but I'm very concerned about that situation," Kubiak said. "I know it's been very frustrating for him. All we can do is be there for him. I'm more concerned about him right now and doing what's right for him."

Kubiak said he plans to meet with Davis, his doctors and agent before Houston's final preseason game Thursday. NFL rosters must be trimmed to 53 players by Saturday, but Kubiak has said he will make his final cuts Friday.

"That's going to be a big call this week," Kubiak said. "It will be a tough decision from a final 53 for us as a team. And we'll make that decision in the best interest of Domanick."

Davis has 3,195 yards and 23 touchdowns in three NFL seasons. If he can't play, Kubiak said rookie sixth-round draft Wali Lundy, who has been impressive in preseason, will be the starter.

I had him Qued up... When you said you couldn't find him I thought about taking him right then. I know Kubes has been saying that Lundy is the starter, but Morrency is turning heads in camp. He is 10x the athlete as well. Once he understands the system he will run away with the job. He's a bigger Tatum Bell!

[Mile High Shack]

I think the Texans running game is a joke with Lundy and Morency to be honest with you

hello Reggie Bush...Kubes first huge mistake

[Rock Chalk]

I think the Texans running game is a joke with Lundy and Morency to be honest with you

hello Reggie Bush...Kubes first huge mistake

Then you havent watched those two this pre-season. Its pre-season yes, but both have done about as wel as our RBs and Mario Williams has helped their entire defensive line more than Bush would have helped their running game.

Kubes first brilliant move was passing on Bush IMO.

[GonzoLays]

Because running backs come and go, elite pass rushers are a little trickier to find.

If Kubiak installs a system similar to Denver's, he doesn't need to pay a premium for a running back.

Actually, the Texans said their reason for selecting Mario Williams over Reggie Bush was that they were never gonna beat Indy (who is in their division) by outscoring them, so they decided to focus on the defensive side of the ball so they could stop them.

Is the reasoning sound? I don't know. But that is what they are trying to do.

[Rascal]

I had him Qued up... When you said you couldn't find him I thought about taking him right then. I know Kubes has been saying that Lundy is the starter, but Morrency is turning heads in camp. He is 10x the athlete as well. Once he understands the system he will run away with the job. He's a bigger Tatum Bell!

If he was looking better he would be the starter. Tatum is 10X the athelete Mike Anderson but he didn't start last year. Kubes is just like Shanny, he wants that consistent yardage in the running game to move the chains. Not the 0,1,0,25,1, etc type stuff.

[broncsyanks]

anyone know his stats??

i am wondering how he did last year and whats wrong with him that they are doing it

[DeusExManning]

Ron Dayne and Adams for Davis?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Just figure out who the Broncos are cutting and the Texans want and trade that guy for Davis. Can't hurt if both guys are going to be cut by their respective teams.

The guy is signed for 3 more seasons after this one.
2006 1700000.00
2007 3340000.00
2008 4180000.00
2009 4550000.00

[Rascal]

Just figure out who the Broncos are cutting and the Texans want and trade that guy for Davis. Can't hurt if both guys are going to be cut by their respective teams.

The guy is signed for 3 more seasons after this one.
2006 1700000.00
2007 3340000.00
2008 4180000.00
2009 4550000.00

expensive.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Not terrible this year, they'd just give him a new deal this offseason if they wanted to keep him long-term.

[Rascal]

Do we have 1.7 mil in cap space?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Is that what I just heard on PTI?

[Jens1893]

There´s a 4 page thread somewhere on this page, my friend.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

There´s a 4 page thread somewhere on this page, my friend.
I see it now, (2 page thread). Whoever started it didn't know how to spell Domanick that's why I missed it Ha!

[Garcia Bronco]

Then you havent watched those two this pre-season. Its pre-season yes, but both have done about as wel as our RBs and Mario Williams has helped their entire defensive line more than Bush would have helped their running game.

Kubes first brilliant move was passing on Bush IMO.


Exactly

[Garcia Bronco]

Are you guys mental? He's ****ed...a 6th round pick from UVgay is going to start in front of him while he gets cut.

[ozomulsion]

He won't get cut unless he is badly injured.

[Rascal]

(on RB Domanick Davis) “We haven’t set up a meeting, yet (with agent and coaches). We’re going to try to set something up for gameday to sit down with Domanick, with our trainers, doctors and maybe his agent. I don’t know. That was me saying that it was my plan, but there’s no meeting yet on Thursday. It might happen Friday. I don’t know, but we’ve got to sit down as a group to discuss the situation.”

(on Domanick Davis wanting to play) “That’s very positive. That is the decision we have to make with Domanick. The decision is strictly about Domanick’s knee and whether he’s going to be able to play football this season and whether it’s going to be ready to go. That’s the thing we have to sit down and discuss is, are we two weeks away? Are we three weeks away? Listen to Domanick’s, listen to the doctors and then we’ve got a decision to make. There’s a lot of factors that go into that and we just got to do what’s best for this team as I’ve said all along.”

(on cutting Domanick Davis) “The idea of cutting Domanick has not even played a factor. I don’t know where that came from. The decision is strictly if his knee is going to be healthy enough to play. If his knee is not healthy enough to play, if that is the decision that’s made about him, then he’s looking at an I.R. (injury reserve) season. If he is going to be able to make it back, then he is going to be on this football team. The other choice (cutting Davis) has never been a factor. Domanick Davis is a big part of this football team as I’ve said all along we’re going to do what’s right for him.”

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=2808&section=N%20Latest%20News

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So he won't be cut but IR looks probable.

[Mile High Shack]

Schfter was on nfl network last night said there was no way D. Davis was getting cut

[bronco militia]

that's what I figured...

[bronco militia]

up

[maven]

up

Up for what? Was DD cut? And if so, who would want a RB with busted wheels.

[bronco militia]

Up for what? Was DD cut? And if so, who would want a RB with busted wheels.


up for maven


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=52881
;D