New Falcon Lelie has red flags all over him

[Bob's your Information Minister]

New Falcon Lelie has red flags all over him

By D.Laurant

The Atlanta Falcons were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. So they rolled the dice Tuesday night, jumping into a three-team trade that sent RB T.J. Duckett from Atlanta to Washington and WR Ashley Lelie from Denver to Atlanta (Denver got a draft pick from the Redskins).

What Atlanta general manager Rich McKay was staring at was the choice between having no proven No. 3 receiver or no proven No. 2 tailback. All of this came about when WR Brian Finneran, Atlanta's top possession receiver and one of the key safety valves for Michael Vick, blew out his knee in training camp.

So McKay gritted his teeth and made the deal. Was it a good one? Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com wondered that himself.

"Some Atlanta officials conceded on Tuesday night," Pasquarelli wrote, "that the trade of Duckett, who enjoyed an excellent training camp and preseason, was a dicey one, because it leaves the club without a proven backup to starting tailback Warrick Dunn, who is 31 and entering his 10th season."

Well, yeah. And there are more problems, mostly revolving around the choice of Lelie.

The now ex-Bronco comes south with red flags sticking all over him. For openers, Lelie was sitting out Denver's training camp (to the tune of $376,000 in fines) because he was "disgruntled" about being relegated to the status of No. 3 receiver.

So where do the Falcons expect Lelie to fit in? As the No. 3 receiver, behind Roddy White and Michael Jenkins. The same Atlanta officials who talked to Pasquarelli said they had discussed that with Lelie and he was OK with it.

But apparently not completely OK, because the Falcons didn't extend his contract. Therefore, after 2006, Lelie could very well wind up as an unrestricted free agent, and Atlanta could wind up having traded the very serviceable Duckett for dust in the wind.

True, Lelie is fast, and a certified deep threat. He has caught 168 passes for over 3,000 yards and 12 touchdowns since coming out of the University of Hawaii (where he played for former Falcons coach June Jones), and his yards per catch average of 17.9 is among the best in the NFL. But he has also been inconsistent and prone to drops. And he's certainly not the same type of receiver as Finneran.

Falcons coach Jim Mora was reportedly incensed at the play of his No. 3 receivers against the Green Bay Packers in the most recent preseason game. But draftee Adam Jennings (Fresno State) had his moments early on, and he's pretty much the same player (albeit far less experienced) as Lelie, without the baggage.

Duckett, meanwhile, had been chugging along at a 6.4 yards per carry average in preseason and is only 25. He has rushed for 2,175 yards and scored 31 touchdowns as a Falcon, and his exit means the team will rely heavily on rookie Jerious Norwood, who shows considerable promise but is 50 pounds lighter than Duckett.

What this all means, ultimately, is that Vick has no more excuses. The complaint had been that he had no deep threat in his arsenal -- now he has at least three, with White, Lelie and Jennings.

On the other hand, one serious injury to Warrick Dunn and the Falcons could end up with a rookie starter and no backup at all at tailback (DeAndra Cobb, the other back in the mix, has been injured).

Defense, anyone?

[BroncoInferno]

Honestly, it's not that big of a risk for Atlanta. Duckett was in the last year of his contract as well, so the "dust in the wind" comment really has no merit. They were essentially renting him for a year, too; they simply traded one lease for another. If Lelie does not resign, it won't be that big of a deal, because Duckett probably wasn't going to resign either. The gamble is that Dunn, at 31, will stay healthy and effective. I think he'll be OK for one more year.

[cambrad8085]

I wonder how long before Lelie makes a move to be a starting WR for them. Week 3?

edit: does this Avatar make me look like a lelie-nutrider? Uhh

[BroncoInferno]

I wonder how long before Lelie makes a move to be a starting WR for them. Week 3?

Depends on how good Jenkins and White turn out to be. Everyone seems to be assuming they aren't that good, but they are only entering their 3rd and 2nd seasons. They very well may end up being better than Lelie. If not, it will just depend on how quickly Lelie can learn the offense.

[bendog]

What's funny is Lelie would be no 1 for the chorfs. LOL

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What's funny is Lelie would be no 1 for the chorfs. LOL

That's a joke. Both of our starters have shown an ability to go over the middle. Lelie would be competing with Parker for the #2 job. Given the fact that Parker is going into his third year in the offense and Lelie would be a n00b, I think Parker would win.

[Los Broncos]

Good, i seen his dumb azz on nfl network last night, they were interviewing him in the falcons locker room, he was all smiles and laughs. Hope he fails and bails on them.

[Dagmar]

:welcome: Hi Bob! :welcome:

Originally Posted by Atlas
Bob acts like people actually want him here. It would be safe to say that the person who wants Bob here the most would be TJ since everyone posts a bunch flamming out on him. Personaly I think he is a waste of space. I dislike him and I would rejoice if he left for good.

I made two bets with him. I lost a bet and paid him $50, he lost an avatar bet and welched. F&ck him.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1214885&postcount=66

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1019912&postcount=15

Well?
Or shall you suddenly fly away from this thread too?
I'll post this on every thread you appear till you man up bub!

(could someone quote me? I am on super boob's iggy list...)

[Hotrod]

That's a joke. Both of our starters have shown an ability to go over the middle. Lelie would be competing with Parker for the #2 job. Given the fact that Parker is going into his third year in the offense and Lelie would be a n00b, I think Parker would win.

Hey boob whats the over/under on # of cut Bronco players the chefs pick up

[Kaylore]

Who is this Lelie?

[STBumpkin]

:welcome: Hi Bob! :welcome:

Originally Posted by Atlas
Bob acts like people actually want him here. It would be safe to say that the person who wants Bob here the most would be TJ since everyone posts a bunch flamming out on him. Personaly I think he is a waste of space. I dislike him and I would rejoice if he left for good.

I made two bets with him. I lost a bet and paid him $50, he lost an avatar bet and welched. F&ck him.


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1214885&postcount=66

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=1019912&postcount=15

Well?
Or shall you suddenly fly away from this thread too?
I'll post this on every thread you appear till you man up bub!

(could someone quote me? I am on super boob's iggy list...)

:thanku:

[Florida_Bronco]

:thanku:

(also need a quote, I'm on Bob's ignore list too)

:thumbsup: ^5 Good work bro

Bob, we are not going to back off you. You will honor that bet or be chased out of every single thread on the Mane. Save yourself the pain and man up now.

[Hotrod]

(also need a quote, I'm on Bob's ignore list too)

:thumbsup: ^5 Good work bro

Bob, we are not going to back off you. You will honor that bet or be chased out of every single thread on the Mane. Save yourself the pain and man up now.

LOL cant help you man I also reside on said list

[BroncoBuff]

He's a major dork, true, but Boob serves A purpose ... he keeps us up on the rosy-optimist Chefs scenarios. I find that has SOME value ... I just wish he would cut his post total in half.

And there is the humor ...

[BroncoBuff]

(also need a quote, I'm on Bob's ignore list too)

:thumbsup: ^5 Good work bro

Bob, we are not going to back off you. You will honor that bet or be chased out of every single thread on the Mane. Save yourself the pain and man up now.
Hey, Bob! ^^^^^^^^

[Florida_Bronco]

LOL cant help you man I also reside on said list

He's gonna find the Mane pretty lonely after he ignores everyone who quotes us. Ha!

[Florida_Bronco]

Hey, Bob! ^^^^^^^^

^5

[Dagmar]

I just want him to either man up, or admit he welched.

Be a man bob!

[BMF Bronco]

I just want him to either man up, or admit he welched.

Be a man bob!

So I would need to quote this for the douche bag eternal to see it?!:thumbs:

[Rock Chalk]

Keep it up Dagmar, that bitch disappears everytime you do that. Makes threads much more pleasant.

[WABronco]

What? I thought Vick "had no more excuses" years ago?

[DeusExManning]

It is just like Fox News with Hannity and Colmes. They picked out the good looking Sean Hannity and the Ugly looking Colmes to show both sides of the debate. In that same way we need Bob to be our Colmes.

[Popps]

Bet welchers are the worst.

Then again, $50 to a Kansas City resident is like a million to anyone else. You can buy a carton of smokes, a bucket of chicken and a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon with $50!

[Crushaholic]

Can we ban Bob for starting a Lelie thread?Ha!

[BroncoBuff]

It is just like Fox News with Hannity and Colmes. They picked out the good looking Sean Hannity and the Ugly looking Colmes to show both sides of the debate. In that same way we need Bob to be our Colmes.
LOL

"OutFOXed" was a great movie ...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

OK, LISTEN.

As soon as 24champbailey 'mans up' and makes good on the bet HE lost to ME, I'll do the same.

Until then, you can all bite me.

[Taco John]

OK, LISTEN.

As soon as 24champbailey 'mans up' and makes good on the bet HE lost to ME, I'll do the same.

Until then, you can all bite me.



Prove it. I want this garbage to end, so show us a link that shows 24champbailey welching on a bet.

[Dagmar]

OK, LISTEN.

As soon as 24champbailey 'mans up' and makes good on the bet HE lost to ME, I'll do the same.

Until then, you can all bite me.

No, you listen, YOU be a man and man up to your bet. You can chase 24CB as much as you like (or recruit a soldier or 2 like myself and Florida :egbgb: ). Atlas manned up and paid you the $50 he owed for a lost bet to YOU. You now do likewise.

Atlas was a man, you gonna keep being a wee boy? I'll keep posting it.

Grow a pair boob, maybe some people may have a wee bit of respect for you if you do.

(someone quote me!)

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Just ask Pezman. He knows what went down.

[Dagmar]

Prove it. I want this garbage to end, so show us a link that shows 24champbailey welching on a bet.

:hitself: (sorry Taco, just trying to make Bob pay for his bet...):hitself:

Didn't mean to...:threadjac

[Taco John]

Just ask Pezman. He knows what went down.



If you're not going to bother to make your case here when I'm stepping in and trying to arbitrate the situation, then shut the hell up and pay your damned bet.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=34103&page=4&highlight=months

24champ and I agreed that whoever's team lost the December matchup would be banned for 12 months. Broncos lost. He came back after a few months. Shamelessly.

[Florida_Bronco]

OK, LISTEN.

As soon as 24champbailey 'mans up' and makes good on the bet HE lost to ME, I'll do the same.

Until then, you can all bite me.

Someone please quote this.

24ChampBailey has NOTHING to do with your bet with Atlas. Not only that, but you are now backtracking. You said you would honor that bet...NOW DO IT. I don't care who else welched on bets with you, Atlas made good on the one HE lost TO YOU...now you need to do the same.

If this bet was with 24CB, then you would have a case for not honoring it, but it's not and you don't.

[Taco John]

Is it true Bob, that Atlas paid up on a bet to you... and now you're not returning the courtesy?

[Florida_Bronco]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=34103&page=4&highlight=months

24champ and I agreed that whoever's team lost the December matchup would be banned for 12 months. Broncos lost. He came back after a few months. Shamelessly.

(again, someone please quote...i think i'm still on Bob's iggy list)

I don't give a flying f**k what 24CB did. This bet was not with him, it was with Atlas. Man up and pay your debt.

[Taco John]

Is it true Bob, that Atlas paid up on a bet to you... and now you're not returning the courtesy?



Answer the question Bob.

[Taco John]

Fine Bob. If you're not going to answer the question, I'll just remove your avatar until you do.

[Alkazar]

Man up Boob! If he don't you should ban him, TJ!

[Dagmar]

Fine Bob. If you're not going to answer the question, I'll just remove your avatar until you do.

And that is why TJ is the godfather.

[Florida_Bronco]

Fine Bob. If you're not going to answer the question, I'll just remove your avatar until you do.

GO TJ!!

^5 :thumbsup: :welcome:

[Master___Pain]

Fine Bob. If you're not going to answer the question, I'll just remove your avatar until you do.

TJ, damnit!! Don't you know how many long hours Bob worked on that thing!?!? Me niether and I don't care.

Bob, you are still a spineless dweeb. You had the chance to man up and did nothing about it. Pathetic.

[Atlas]

Bet welchers are the worst.

Then again, $50 to a Kansas City resident is like a million to anyone else. You can buy a carton of smokes, a bucket of chicken and a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon with $50!


He lives in Texas. When I lost the bet I offered to mail it to him but he wouldn't give me his address. So I had to pay pal it. LOL LOL

[Atlas]

If Bob would have just sacked up I probably would have given his avatar back or at least given him a chance to win it back. Personally I'm over it now. I have him on ignore and I can't see that stupid avatar anyway.

[Florida_Bronco]

If Bob would have just sacked up I probably would have given his avatar back or at least given him a chance to win it back. Personally I'm over it now. I have him on ignore and I can't see that stupid avatar anyway.

It's GONE now...thanks again TJ. ROFL!

[BroncoBuff]

Someone please quote this.

24ChampBailey has NOTHING to do with your bet with Atlas. Not only that, but you are now backtracking. You said you would honor that bet...NOW DO IT. I don't care who else welched on bets with you, Atlas made good on the one HE lost TO YOU...now you need to do the same.

If this bet was with 24CB, then you would have a case for not honoring it, but it's not and you don't.
Bingo! :thumbsup:


THAT is 100% correct.

[BroncoBuff]

TJ ... plz take the word "ass" off his Adopt-a-Bronco, too...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Has 24champbailey been banned?

[Steve Sewell]

Has 24champbailey been banned?

Bob, there's a couple of differences. 24 at least completed part of his bet. Plus people actually like and respect him around here. And finally, your avatar bet wasn't with 24, it was with Atlas. Don't be a puss.

[scorpio]

http://dvd-new-release.net/you.got.served/you.got.served.jpg

[Taco John]

Is it true Bob, that Atlas paid up on a bet to you... and now you're not returning the courtesy?



Answer the question.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yes, it's true.

What happened was I made one too many avatar bets. Basically I had another prior bet with someone that was supposed to last like a week. I filled it, but Atlas was pissed and basically told me to go **** myself. I wasn't going to go without an avatar if Atlas wasn't going to be satisfied regardless, so I didn't. And compounding that decision was the fact that 24 champbailey came back after one month instead of 12.

[GreatBronco16]

Yes, it's true.

What happened was I made one too many avatar bets. Basically I had another prior bet with someone that was supposed to last like a week. I filled it, but Atlas was pissed and basically told me to go **** myself. I wasn't going to go without an avatar if Atlas wasn't going to be satisfied regardless, so I didn't. And compounding that decision was the fact that 24 champbailey came back after one month instead of 12.


:vermeil:

:loser:

You'd just be better off if you never bother coming back to the OM. You're a worthless piece of shlt.


Waaaaa, 24CB didn't stay gone for 12 months. Cry us river you big baby.

[Killericon]

:vermeil:

:loser:

You'd just be better off if you never bother coming back to the OM. You're a worthless piece of shlt.


Waaaaa, 24CB didn't stay gone for 12 months. Cry us river you big baby.

Can you guys do me a favour?

Do one of these two things: Make a thread called the "Bob Welched a bet and now everyone feels like whining and derailing threads about it" or rename this thread to that.

Christ...

[NFLBRONCO]

I'd rather Denver sign a guy on DL over a WR.

[GreatBronco16]

Can you guys do me a favour?

Do one of these two things: Make a thread called the "Bob Welched a bet and now everyone feels like whining and derailing threads about it" or rename this thread to that.

Christ...


Now who's whinning?::)


Never thought that I'd see someone get upset about a change of topic in a Lelie thread.

[Killericon]

Now who's whinning?::)


Never thought that I'd see someone get upset about a change of topic in a Lelie thread.

You've done it in 2 different threads. It's just annoying. Really ****ing annoying.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

People really need to get over me. It's getting annoying.

[GreatBronco16]

You've done it in 2 different threads. It's just annoying. Really ****ing annoying.


Something tells me that you will get over it.

[watermock]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2681&dateline=1151895759

Who is this Lelie you speak of?...this one I know...Mr. Chekov I think

http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200307/gal-mov-ii-01/320x240.jpg

This one I do not remember...

http://www.octagonfootball.com/images/draft-lelie.jpg

Khans great great great great great great ....ect...granddaddy:

http://web.utk.edu/~lyle/ewdg/Photos/Pharoah2/phar01.jpg

"The name "Lilly" shall be stricken from all records and banished from the orange kingdom...noone shall even plant a lilly seed without my wrath"

[Florida_Bronco]

People really need to get over me. It's getting annoying.

You need to quit taking it so seriously Bob. For all the crap I give you, we both know I'm more than willing to give you credit when you deserve it.

[Florida_Bronco]

You've done it in 2 different threads. It's just annoying. Really ****ing annoying.

Actually this is like the 4th or 5th thread we invaded to go after Bob :spit:

Seriously, both the threads we either started by Bob or Chief related, we try not to destroy good threads.

[GreatBronco16]

You need to quit taking it so seriously Bob. For all the crap I give you, we both know I'm more than willing to give you credit when you deserve it.
:welcome:

[watermock]

No, you listen, YOU be a man and man up to your bet. You can chase 24CB as much as you like (or recruit a soldier or 2 like myself and Florida :egbgb: ). Atlas manned up and paid you the $50 he owed for a lost bet to YOU. You now do likewise.

Atlas was a man, you gonna keep being a wee boy? I'll keep posting it.

Grow a pair boob, maybe some people may have a wee bit of respect for you if you do.

(someone quote me!)

Look you dimwitted dumbass. 24CB has absolutely nothing to do with any other bet. You can't welch by claiming guilty by assosiation. They probably don't even know each other. Take that issue up with 24CB. It's not a conveinent excuse to welch. Don't make me go Vinnie on your fat ass with a shovel over the head. :giggle:

[GreatBronco16]

Look you dimwitted dumbass. 24CB has absolutely nothing to do with any other bet. You can't welch by claiming guilty by assosiation. They probably don't even know each other. Take that issue up with 24CB. It's not a conveinent excuse to welch. Don't make me go Vinnie on your fat ass with a shovel over the head. :giggle:


Day late and a dollar short there mock. Have another drink.

[Florida_Bronco]

You can chase 24CB as much as you like (or recruit a soldier or 2 like myself and Florida :egbgb: )

I don't think Bob could afford our services. We provide top-tier work and we are compensated accordingly :ninja: