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Clockwork Orange
08-21-2006, 12:04 AM
I know, I already started a thread to complain about hitters showing up pitchers, but I've got something else that's pissing me off. That thing is hitters wearing armor to the plate and leaning into pitches. I watched Lastings Milledge pull that crap twice over the weekend. He wears a huge elbow pad to the plate and he stuck it out intentionally and got plunked once, stuck it out a second time and didn't (though he tried to sell it to the umpire that he did).

When are the league and the umps going to put an end to this crap? The league needs to limit the armor that these guys are allowed to go to the plate with and the umps have the right to deny a hit batsman first base if they determine that he either leaned into one or made no effort to get out of the way. Do your f'n jobs.

WABronco
08-21-2006, 12:12 AM
I know, I already started a thread to complain about hitters showing up pitchers, but I've got something else that's pissing me off. That thing is hitters wearing armor to the plate and leaning into pitches. I watched Lastings Milledge pull that crap twice over the weekend. He wears a huge elbow pad to the plate and he stuck it out intentionally and got plunked once, stuck it out a second time and didn't (though he tried to sell it to the umpire that he did).

When are the league and the umps going to put an end to this crap? The league needs to limit the armor that these guys are allowed to go to the plate with and the umps have the right to deny a hit batsman first base if they determine that he either leaned into one or made no effort to get out of the way. Do your f'n jobs.
Amen. Carl Everett did that **** all the time...

Clockwork Orange
08-21-2006, 01:29 AM
Amen. Carl Everett did that **** all the time...

Fernando Vina did it so often that some umpire finally stopped him on the way to first and made him get back in the box.

Pendejo
08-23-2006, 09:31 PM
I thought that it was actually illegal to wear any unnecessary body armour at the plate. I think it may be one of those things that the umps look the other way on. Like hitters with one foot outside the back of the batter's box.

I think that's another trend much like the pants pulled down over the heel of the shoe...that Barroid is responsible for.

I remember after Bagwell kept getting plunked in the '90's he actually got special permission from the league to wear his armor.

-Slap-
08-23-2006, 09:38 PM
Guys like Don Baylor and Ron Hunt earned first base with welt marks so deep you could see the stiches from the baseball.

Career Leaders for Hit By Pitch (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/HBP_career.shtml)

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats
1. Hughie Jennings+ 287 R
2. Craig Biggio (39) 273 R
3. Tommy Tucker# 272 B
4. Don Baylor 267 R
5. Ron Hunt 243 R
6. Dan McGann# 230 B
7. Frank Robinson+ 198 R
8. Jason Kendall (31) 197 R
9. Minnie Minoso 192 R
10. Jake Beckley+* 183 L
11. Andres Galarraga 178 R
12. Curt Welch 173 R
13. Kid Elberfeld 165 R
14. Fernando Vina* (36) 157 L
15. Brady Anderson* 154 L
16. Fred Clarke+* 153 L
17. Chet Lemon 151 R
18. Carlton Fisk+ 143 R
19. Nellie Fox+* 142 L
20. Art Fletcher 141 R

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats
21. Bill Dahlen 140 R
22. Carlos Delgado* (33) 139 L
Chuck Knoblauch 139 R
24. Larry Walker* 138 L
25. Frank Chance+ 137 R
26. Dummy Hoy* 134 L
Nap Lajoie+ 134 R
John McGraw+* 134 L
29. Steve Brodie* 132 L
30. Brian Downing 129 R
Willie Keeler+* 129 L
32. Jeff Bagwell (37) 128 R
33. Honus Wagner+ 125 R
34. Buck Herzog 120 R
35. Gary Sheffield (36) 118 R
36. Jimmie Dykes 115 R
Damion Easley (35) 115 R
Sherm Lollar 115 R
39. Frankie Crosetti 114 R
Bill Freehan 114 R

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats
41. Andre Dawson 111 R
Steve Evans* 111 L
Jason Giambi* (34) 111 L
44. George Burns 110 R
45. Sherry Magee 109 R
46. Bill Joyce* 108 L
Mo Vaughn* 108 L
48. Pete Rose# 107 B
Wally Schang# 107 B
50. Dan Brouthers+* 105 L
Jeff Kent (37) 105 R
52. Derek Jeter (31) 103 R
Tris Speaker+* 103 L
54. Orlando Cepeda+ 102 R
55. Luis Gonzalez* (37) 100 L
Henry Larkin 100 R
57. Elmer Flick+* 99 L
Bucky Harris+ 99 R
Eddie Yost 99 R
60. Rickey Henderson 98 R

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats
Alex Rodriguez (29) 98 R
62. Dick Bartell 97 R
Mike Macfarlane 97 R
Dick Padden 97 R
65. Gary Gaetti 96 R
Reggie Jackson+* 96 L
67. Ty Cobb+* 94 L
Ed Delahanty+ 94 R
Matt Lawton* (33) 94 L
John Reilly 94 R
Jake Stahl 94 R
John Titus* 94 L
73. Barry Bonds* (40) 93 L
74. Jim Delahanty 92 R
Doc Gessler* 92 L
Jimmy Sheckard* 92 L
Lonnie Smith 92 R
78. Jeff Blauser 91 R
Ed Sprague 91 R
Gene Tenace 91 R

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats
John Warner* 91 L
Chief Zimmer 91 R
83. Joe Carter 90 R
Norm Cash* 90 L
85. David Eckstein (30) 89 R
Jack Fournier* 89 L
Mark Grudzielanek (35) 89 R
Billy Hamilton+* 89 L
Edgar Martinez 89 R
90. Jose Guillen (29) 88 R
John Olerud* (36) 88 L
Cesar Tovar 88 R
93. Bid McPhee+ 87 R
Rafael Palmeiro* (40) 87 L
Devon White# 87 B
Eric Young (38) 87 R
97. Bobby Grich 86 R
Cy Williams* 86 L
99. Boileryard Clarke 85 R
Kiki Cuyler+ 85 R

Rank Player (age) Hit By Pitch Bats
Jason LaRue (31) 85 R
Arlie Latham 85 R
Joe Torre 85 R