Which set of RBs will stay?

[JCMElway]

It's fairly obvious that the Bells, C Sapp, and K Johnson will be RBs for the Broncs this year. Denver usually carries 3 RB and 2 FB. That means we are going to cut 2 very talented RBs. Who's going?

Poll coming.

[baja]

we keep bell squared nash and cobbs

[NFLBRONCO]

We'd have to cut sapp to keep both Nash and Cobb

[JCMElway]

It's possible that Kyle Johnson would get cut to keep Nash and Cobbs, but I think that unlikely. It's crazy, but we're going to have to cut two productive backs. I think Dayne goes because he has been injured and is a bit overrated. Also, cutting a veteran salary makes business sense. And I bet we cut Dayne in the first round of cuts so he can catch on somewhere else. Heck, I bet we'd even accept a 6th or 7th rounder for him.

As for the other back, we need a grinder to get short yardage. M. Bell will be a very nice 1st and 2nd down back, Tater will be a very capable 3rd down back, and the last one will have to be able to grind out the short yardage. From watching the game Saturday, Nash seems a bit more suited to throwing himslef into a pile and pushing for that extra yard.

However, I think it's a tossup between Cobbs and Nash. That's just my gut feeling.

[orange crusher]

This would be a very tough decision based on tonight's game. Dayne didn't play, but Nash and Cobbs both ran very strong. After watching Nash, I was thinking that Cobbs was toast. Then Cobbs comes in and carries people downfield even though they knew it was going to be a run every time. I don't know if Denver even threw a pass in the second half and they still couldn't stop those two.

[Atlas]

This is a very good situation for Shanny. I think he will keep all 4 BUT he will look to trade one of them.

Lelie and Cobbs/Nash could fetch something that might interest Shanny.

[Killericon]

Tatum's gonna get traded. He's got talent, but he has no place here.

[Atlas]

Tatum's gonna get traded. He's got talent, but he has no place here.

No way Bell gets traded unless Denver gets at least a 2nd for him. He is an instant game changer. He won the games against the Redskins and the Pats.

[Killericon]

No way Bell gets traded unless Denver gets at least a 2nd for him. He is an instant game changer. He won the games against the Redskins and the Pats.

Dayne won the Cowboys game...He's gotten no votes so far.

I'll admit that Bell is a huge asset for our team, but I maintain that we could get a hell of a lot in return for him.

I don't think he'd be happy being the change of pace back for a 2nd straight year. RBs don't have a lot of seasons...from his perspective, he's waisting time.

[watermock]

Dunno. Cobbs was as highly rated as Dayne out of H.S. Higher actually. I honestly don't know. Dayne isn't making a big salary tho, just veteran salary. His salary isn't an issue IMO. He was picked up off the street.

I dunno. Nash was great, Bell was off the charts, but this was Tennesee. I don't count anything out.

[Moon§hiner]

Nash impressed me tonight....Cobbs moved the ball like I thought he could when we picked him up...Daynes days could be numbered and we carry 4 running backs?...no way do we get rid of Tatum in my lala land

[Atlas]

Dayne won the Cowboys game...He's gotten no votes so far.
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He was also money against the Chargers. But the fact is he isn't playing while other players are impressing the coaches. I think he is gone.

[MechanicalBull]

Nash looked real good last night. It's pretty funny how over the preseason the Broncos were hyping up Cobbs so much and with Dayne out this week and Nash being a new comer he was still the fourth rb.

[12th man]

I have no idea who will be our third strings back. Cobbs has looked good these two preseason games, and he is pretty strong and can get those tough yards. I like that about him. nash showed some good things last night also, and he is very good with his cuts. Personally, I would go with cobbs, but it's going to be between him and nash. With that said, I think Dayne is going to be out of Denver soon.

[elsid13]

I think Dayne might want to try practicing this week. There is some very hungry guys on the roster and sitting out isn't something you want to do, when there are kids trying to take your money.

[Barry Ramey]

I think Dayne is out. Nash, body-wise, reminds me of Dayne, with a little more speed. Coobs has looked good too. I think the 5th RB spot comes down to Cobbs or Nash and should be the one that can helo on special teams.

[baja]

What we need is the NFL to bump up the roster limit to 56

[i4jelway7]

we will keep Dayne as the 3rd RB and Cobbs & Nash will both be waived and if they clear waivers Denver will sign them to the PS

[chanesaw]

I think we will keep Dayne just because of what he did last year. Shanny knows what he can do if called upon.

[dsmoot]

Dunno. Cobbs was as highly rated as Dayne out of H.S. Higher actually. I honestly don't know. Dayne isn't making a big salary tho, just veteran salary. His salary isn't an issue IMO. He was picked up off the street.

I dunno. Nash was great, Bell was off the charts, but this was Tennesee. I don't count anything out.


I really believe that we will not have 3 QB's so we can carry an extra player at TE or RB. BVP is gone. Even so, Shanahan will surprise us with some unexpected cuts.

[Barry Ramey]

I'm not so sure they'll keep Dayne this time. He still looks like the #3 RB at best again and didn't move up at all to pass the Bells, one a rookie undrafted free agent.

[Barry Ramey]

True, they could keep 6 RB's if only keep 2 QB's, which could happen. Van Pelt just hasn't shown he can play QB in the NFL and my guess is he never really will. It's a shame since I think there is a spot in the NFL for Van Pelt, but just not at QB.


I really believe that we will not have 3 QB's so we can carry an extra player at TE or RB. BVP is gone. Even so, Shanahan will surprise us with some unexpected cuts.

[telluride]

Anyone know what the "personal problems" Nash had in Tenn that led to his departure? The announcers last night kept referring to it.

Whatever they were, Nash looked v. impressive.

[bpc]

I called this weeks ago. Cobbs might not have the best practices but he fits our system to a "T". Nash looks really good. The Bell's both have a chance. Mike reminds me of OG... and i'll gladly take another one of him in this lineup. Tatum is a difference maker. You can't underestimate his change of pace speed at the end of a game.

Dayne should be gone. We could spend 1 mill somewhere else than a third string backup.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

It's possible that Kyle Johnson would get cut to keep Nash and Cobbs, but I think that unlikely.

Guess who started at FB last night? Not Cecil Sapp. Johnson is one of the safer players on this roster.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's possible that Kyle Johnson would get cut to keep Nash and Cobbs, but I think that unlikely. No way Johnson is cut.

Where are all the people that said Dayne would be starting this year anyway?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Tatum's gonna get traded. He's got talent, but he has no place here.

No other back on the team has brekaway speed like Tatum

[elsid13]

I called this weeks ago. Cobbs might not have the best practices but he fits our system to a "T". Nash looks really good. The Bell's both have a chance. Mike reminds me of OG... and i'll gladly take another one of him in this lineup. Tatum is a difference maker. You can't underestimate his change of pace speed at the end of a game.

Dayne should be gone. We could spend 1 mill somewhere else than a third string backup.


OG was one of underrated running back Denver had. If it wasn't for injuries I think he would been one of the better backs in league, playing in Denver's System.

KJ is safe and so is Sapp

[Paladin]

I think Tatum is in the game. He has great speed and seems to be cutting better, and he is catching the ball better. RB is a position notorius for injuries, and the way these guys run, a concussion from them hitting the tackler is possible. I do believe they will carry two QBs. All four of the RBs should make the team. Dayne is out.

It is a problem that is nice to have, but I am glad I don't have to make that decision. Part of the problem is that the coaches will build the team and the exact number for each position will not actually be known until they hash it out as to what makes the best team.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Guess who started at FB last night? Not Cecil Sapp. Johnson is one of the safer players on this roster.
Sapp may be gone if Nash and or Cobbs can play some fullback.

[Needa Pass Rush]

I think we will keep Dayne just because of what he did last year. Shanny knows what he can do if called upon.

Yes, he will cry about his turf toe. That is a nasty injury that could linger and hamper all season. I think the toe punches his ticket out of Denver if everything else stays the same (regarding injuries to others, etc).

[Archie]

Nash looked fantastic last night and Cobbs has been impressive for two weeks in a row. I don't see Dayne making the roster with the way those two played.

I won't be shocked if we trade Tater but I don't expect us to. However, I think with the way our other running backs are performing we definitely have that luxury and he's would draw top dollar.

[elsid13]

Sapp may be gone if Nash and or Cobbs can play some fullback.

No way Sapp is cut, starting FB, can play RB in pinch and is on the ST. The only way Sapp is not on this team in St Louis is that he gets hurt.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

No way Sapp is cut, starting FB, can play RB in pinch and is on the ST. The only way Sapp is not on this team in St Louis is that he gets hurt. What? What team are you watching?

You do know that Sapp is no bigger than Nash and Cobbs and SLOWER?

[BroncoBuff]

Nash has 'off the field' problems ... but he sure looked good.

And Cobbs is a bruiser. I wouldda thought Dayne would be doing EXACTLY what Cobbs is doing. We'll save some cap room by cutting Dayne.

STILL: I say we trade Lelie and Tatum plus a 5th round pick TO PHILLY for Brodrick Bunkley.


Can't deny that Ashley and Tatum are both cetrified HOME-RUN HITTERS.

[Barry Ramey]

I wouldn't trade Tatum at this point. He gives the team the added dimension with his speed. Nash nor Cobbs have ever played FB, so wouldn't be wise to keep them for that. Sapp and Johnson are pretty safe IMO. It's possible, though probably not likely, they keep both Nash and Cobb and only carry 2 QB's again.

[chickennob2]

I think we keep the Bells and Cobbs. With 2 seasons on the PS, i dont think Cobbs is eligible any longer for the practice squad. Nash, on the other hand, is. So with his "off the field problems" helping him get through the waiver wire, Nash is signed to PS. Dayne is gone.

[ludo21]

Nash was impressive no doubt. I fell asleep in 4th quarter tho, i was exhausted. This sucks, i missed Cobbs AGAIN! LOL

[elsid13]

What? What team are you watching?

You do know that Sapp is no bigger than Nash and Cobbs and SLOWER?

I watching cbs4 and reading the training camp reports. It not about size or speed at the full back spot but leverage and blocking angles. There is reason that the coaching staff have Sapp above KJ on the depth charts. The only reason that he didn't play last night is because of a sore hammy.

Next week will show who the starters are on this team.

[youcandoit1687]

i think dayne atleast has some trade value and could be traded to a team who is lower on waivers but could use a veteran backup. maybe the panthers, patriots, cowboys, etc.

[TotallyScrewed]

I think Dayne is in trouble. He hasn't been impressive in camp (according to OUR sources) and is injured when he needs to be impressing. He has no trade value. He's about to be done.

Nash looked very impressive against scrubs. He didn't after his "injury". Is he hurt worse than we know???

Cobb looked good. Why can't he do it during practise? You and I might not have a problem with that but Shanny surely does. I'd like to see him get some action against first teamers.

Both Bells look good. M. Bell looks better and T. Bell looks like he pressing a bit. Notheless, they look good so why would you change that? M.Bell seems to have adequate power and add a Mustard into the short yardage and viola.

Seems like Kyle is pressing a bit too. He dropped an easy lob. Cecil is the better power back and probably better lead for M. Bell. Cecil can catch the ball too. And even though he's injured now, he's proven himself in TC.

[Kaylore]

This is a very good situation for Shanny. I think he will keep all 4 BUT he will look to trade one of them.

Lelie and Cobbs/Nash could fetch something that might interest Shanny.
Good point. A packaged deal might warrant a third or even second round pick.

[Kaylore]

Nash looked real good last night. It's pretty funny how over the preseason the Broncos were hyping up Cobbs so much and with Dayne out this week and Nash being a new comer he was still the fourth rb.
Nash wasn't even on the team until the second week of camp. He had to learn the system and get reps. We saw some flashes but his work was limited while we were out there. After a week he started turning it on and I'm willing to bet he's only going to get better.

[bpc]

OG was one of underrated running back Denver had. If it wasn't for injuries I think he would been one of the better backs in league, playing in Denver's System.

KJ is safe and so is Sapp

The guy frickin' played half a game with a torn ACL. I loved OG. He was all heart. I love the fact that Bell runs like OG. He has a chance to be very successful. The fact that he is a die-hard Denver fan makes him even that more endearing.

Did anybody else get pissed when Bell ran out of bounds last night? Hell, I was so happy he had a 35 yd run I didn't even notice. Not a bad night for the rookie.

I think all the backs looked really good though. Cobbs runs like Drougns did, and I will admit... I loved watched Drougns lay the wood on some DB's.

Nash is a bigger small back but he is very shifty. He had some very impressive runs.

Bottom line is I want guys who just keep coming at ya. Back in 97', that is the way our HB group ran. TD would get his cracks in and then Loville, and then Hebron. They all ran like their life was on the line. I saw a glimpse of that last night. If we play like that every game this season, we have a very real chance to win the super bowl, I don't care who we play.

Game ball also goes out to the offensive lines... they all did a hell of a job.

[TotallyScrewed]

The guy frickin' played half a game with a torn ACL. I loved OG. He was all heart. I love the fact that Bell runs like OG. He has a chance to be very successful. The fact that he is a die-hard Denver fan makes him even that more endearing.

Did anybody else get pissed when Bell ran out of bounds last night? Hell, I was so happy he had a 35 yd run I didn't even notice. Not a bad night for the rookie.

I think all the backs looked really good though. Cobbs runs like Drougns did, and I will admit... I loved watched Drougns lay the wood on some DB's.

Nash is a bigger small back but he is very shifty. He had some very impressive runs.

Bottom line is I want guys who just keep coming at ya. Back in 97', that is the way our HB group ran. TD would get his cracks in and then Loville, and then Hebron. They all ran like their life was on the line. I saw a glimpse of that last night. If we play like that every game this season, we have a very real chance to win the super bowl, I don't care who we play.

Game ball also goes out to the offensive lines... they all did a hell of a job.


OG was great...frickin' injuries!!!

I thought Bell suckered them into hitting him out of bounds. The officials blew that call, otherwise he gains fifteen more on penalty.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Guess who started at FB last night? Not Cecil Sapp. Johnson is one of the safer players on this roster.

Sapp was held out of the game due to a minor injury. Starting FB is one of the toughest battles in camp.

[ScottXray]

I think Shanny is going to keep 6 , simply because we ALWAYS have injury problems at RB. And except for Dayne, every one of our backs has shown real well in game play , and not one of them will make it to the practice squad...they'd ALL be claimed off waivers. Hell, Tennessee would take one.

Dayne is probably gone, cause Shanahan , although he has loyalty to players, is all about THIS year and Dayne hasn't shown anything. Packaging him with Lelie won't work until after cut downs (assuming Dayne doens't fail a physical).:thumbsup:

[bpc]

I would fly Dayne out of town right now for some TOGO's and side of baked Lays. There are some HB starved teams that could use him though. The Jets being one of them. I would take a 7th and be happy to save ourselves having to cut Dayne, who has been a solid Bronco on and off the field.

[JCMElway]

I think Dayne is out. Nash, body-wise, reminds me of Dayne, with a little more speed.

Nash also has the ability to move the pile for a yard or two. We saw that last night. Dayne, for all his size, is more of a nifty, one cut and go runner. He was a bit of a bruiser in college, but the guys are just bigger and faster at this level. The Giants tried to convert him into a goal line back and we all now how that turned out.

Advantage Nash.

[JCMElway]

Yes, he will cry about his turf toe. That is a nasty injury that could linger and hamper all season. I think the toe punches his ticket out of Denver if everything else stays the same (regarding injuries to others, etc).

Might he actually be slapped on IR for turf toe?

LOL

[IHaveALight]

For those of you saying we keep 2 QBs and 6 RBs, don't forget we're going to have 3 kickers on the roster too.
With all the depth on the roster I don't see us keeping 6 RBs.

[Killericon]

For those of you saying we keep 2 QBs and 6 RBs, don't forget we're going to have 3 kickers on the roster too.
With all the depth on the roster I don't see us keeping 6 RBs.

I really hope Shanahan doesn't take another gargantuan risk by only keeping 2 QBs on the roster.

[mhgaffney]

If Shanahan goes with two QBs he can keep an extra WR or RB. For depth.

Which is one reason we are stronger than last year.

[WABronco]

Guess who started at FB last night? Not Cecil Sapp. Johnson is one of the safer players on this roster.
...as well as one of the better players on the roster.

[Killericon]

...as well as one of the better players on the roster.

He gets so little love it's sickening.

[WABronco]

I don't think Nash was as big as he is now when he was in college, so if he could lose some of that extra weight and gain back some explosiveness he could be a real keeper. His problem is character concerns though, so hopefully he can get his head on straight here in Denver.

[Atlas]

Anyone know what the "personal problems" Nash had in Tenn that led to his departure? The announcers last night kept referring to it.

Whatever they were, Nash looked v. impressive.

He is fat. Fisher didn't like it Nash didn't see it as a big problem.

[Atlas]

For those of you saying we keep 2 QBs and 6 RBs, don't forget we're going to have 3 kickers on the roster too.
With all the depth on the roster I don't see us keeping 6 RBs.

Saurbrun won't take up a roster spot during his suspension so Denver will only have 2 spots taken up.

[WABronco]

He is fat. Fisher didn't like it Nash didn't see it as a big problem.
He also had significant character concerns coming out of college...

[Atlas]

He also had significant character concerns coming out of college...


Maybe out of college but it sounds like the only reason he was let go was because he was fat.
Tennessee Titans release running back Damien Nash

SoCals link:http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/2006/07/31/1712530-ap.html

CLARKSVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The Tennessee Titans released running back Damien Nash on Monday morning, finally losing patience with their fifth-round draft pick of 2005.

Nash reported to training camp expecting to compete with a large crop of running backs: Chris Brown, Travis Henry, rookie draft pick LenDale White and Jarrett Payton.

But Titans coaches said he was out of shape and about 10 pounds over the weight they required for camp.

Coach Jeff Fisher had Nash working with the training staff, but it was too little, too late for the running back out of Missouri.

"Damien came in and he had some difficulty just getting it," Fisher said. "He was doing well in May, then kind of tailspinned out and was in no kind of shape and was overweight. To me, I want guys that are committed to what we're doing."

Nash played in three games as a rookie and carried six times for 32 yards.

[Atlas]

Titans Release Running Back Damien Nash
Posted: 8/1/2006 9:58:37 AM

he Tennessee Titans released running back Damien Nash.
SoCals link: http://www.newschannel5.com/content/titans/21106.asp

Nash, a fifth-round draft pick a year ago out of Missouri, played in three games as a rookie and carried six times for 32 yards.

He reported to training camp Friday some ten pounds over what the Titans wanted him to weigh.

His competition this year included Chris Brown, Travis Henry, rookie draft pick LenDale White and Jarrett Payton.

Coach Jeff Fisher said Monday he wants players who are committed.

Titans Release RB Damien Nash

SoCals link: http://www.pfcritics.com/news101/TitansReleaseRBDamienNash.php

By Chris Pokorny, PFCritics Writer August 1, 2006
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The Tennessee Titans released running back Damien Nash on Monday. Nash, the Titans fifth-round draft pick from 2005, was caught in a situation where there were four people ahead of him on the depth chart - Chris Brown, LenDale White, Travis Henry, and Jarrett Payton. To make things worse, Nash wasn't in the proper shape that the team expected him to be in.

"Damien came in and he had some difficulty just getting it," Fisher said. "He was doing well in May, then kind of tailspinned out and was in no kind of shape and was overweight. To me, I want guys that are committed to what we're doing."

Last year, Nash carried the ball six times for 32 yards. Another team will probably take a chance on Nash and invite him to their training camp.

Broncos add RB Damien Nash
SoCals link: http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=2&c=552651

Damien Nash By: Press Release

Date: Aug 3, 2006

The Denver Broncos have signed former Tennessee Titan running back Damien Nash. Wide receiver Rashaun Woods, whom Denver claimed off waivers from San Diego on Wednesday, failed his physical and is not a member of the Broncos.

The Denver Broncos on Thursday signed free-agent running back Damien Nash and waived running back Marty Johnson, Head Coach Mike Shanahan announced.

Nash (5-foot-10, 220 pounds) is a second-year running back who was waived on Monday by Tennessee, which selected him in the fifth round (142nd overall) of the 2005 NFL Draft. The 24-year-old has played three career games and posted six rushes for 32 yards (5.3 avg.) along with three receptions for 14 yards (4.7 avg.).

As a rookie for the Titans in 2005, Nash played three games and registered all of his rushing and receiving statistics in the Titans’ regular-season finale at Jacksonville on Jan. 1. He was inactive for 12 games and did not play in another contest for Tennessee.

Nash totaled 1,254 rushing yards on 253 carries (5.0 avg.) with 12 touchdowns in 23 career games (9 starts) during two seasons at the University of Missouri. Nash, who also recorded 36 career receptions for 281 yards (7.8 avg.) with two touchdowns at Missouri, began his collegiate career at Coffeyville Community College in Coffeyville, Kan.

During his senior year at East St. Louis Senior High School in East St. Louis, Ill., Nash posted 1,444 rushing yards and 28 touchdowns. He spent the first three years of his prep career at Riverview Gardens High School in St. Louis, helping the team capture the Class 5A Missouri state title.

[Atlas]

Saturday, July 29: Nash going in the wrong direction

SoCals link: http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200660729007

By JIM WYATT
Staff Writer


CLARKSVILLE -- In the five weeks leading up to training camp, Titans running back Damien Nash must’ve gone on vacation.

He should have an even longer one soon.

Nash is a guy whose roster spot was already in jeopardy. He entered camp behind Chris Brown, Travis Henry and LenDale White on the depth chat. Jarrett Payton has more NFL experience.

So Nash decides to show up for camp overweight and out of shape. What was he thinking?

Nash spent Saturday morning running laps with Titans strength and conditioning coach Steve Watterson. He has to be cleared by Titans Coach Jeff Fisher before he can return.

Heading into his second NFL season, Nash was already skating on thin ice.

Now it’s just a matter of time before he falls through.

[Vegas_Bronco]

With this Oline, you can pretty much enter any name here.....I choose myselft (putting down the 64oz slurpee to hit the weights).

[bpc]

Some people might argue but his size is very similar to Priest Holmes... I also liken the way he runs the ball. Discipline though could be very far off. Still, you had to love the way he ran the football last night. He was very impressive. I hope we keep him if he can stay with the program.

[24champ]

I voted Dayne will be the third back behind Mike and Tatum Bell, I think it will be the same situation as last year where he will come in to get the hard yards. I see Nash on the PS right now.

[Atlas]

I voted Dayne will be the third back behind Mike and Tatum Bell, I think it will be the same situation as last year where he will come in to get the hard yards. I see Nash on the PS right now.

Is Nash Eligible for PS?

[24champ]

Is Nash Eligible for PS?
Yes.

[JCMElway]

Yes.

Hm. That's interesting. If we have a chance of getting Nash on the practice squad (most other teams passed on him) then I think we may keep Cobbs and roll the dice on retaining Nash.

Nash being practice squad eligible is very good news for Cobbs. AND, if he goes there, will keep Damien around the complex and hopefully he picks up the Denver Bronco work ethic.

[elsid13]

Either Turner will turn Nash into pro, or he will break him. Hope the kid ready for it.

[Man-Goblin]

I really hope Shanahan doesn't take another gargantuan risk by only keeping 2 QBs on the roster.

How is that a mistake? Jake has always been very durable. Plus, it's not like Van Pelt is going to be picked up by anyone when he gets cut. He knows the playbook, and will only be a phone call away all year.

[WayOutWest]

just in case anybody is wondering-2006 salaries

Mike Bell: 275K
Tatum Bell: 425K
Cobbs: 350K
Nash: 350K
Dayne: 600K

3 of the 5 RBs are making the absolute min for their respective years of service. (M. Bell, Cobbs, and Nash) I think right now Denver must have the cheapest backfield in the league

[elsid13]

Nash is getting paid more then M. Bell???

[Atlas]

Nash is getting paid more then M. Bell???

Bell is an udrafted rookie FA while Nash was drafted in the 5th round last year

[jmacjo]

I think Shanahan should go nuts and keep them all. He has already revolutionized the way people look at RB's as disposable; why not step it up and run a 5 man rotation? Would be something new and interesting. Cut Van Pelt and a linebacker etc. to make up for the surplus of backs. I'd take any reasonable trade offers though. The jets need a back right now.

[elsid13]

Bell is an udrafted rookie FA while Nash was drafted in the 5th round last yearO

I'm surprised that Nash is still making that much after getting cut from TENN. and his draft spot doesn't factor in.

[BroncoFiend]

It's possible that Kyle Johnson would get cut to keep Nash and Cobbs, but I think that unlikely. It's crazy, but we're going to have to cut two productive backs. I think Dayne goes because he has been injured and is a bit overrated. Also, cutting a veteran salary makes business sense. And I bet we cut Dayne in the first round of cuts so he can catch on somewhere else. Heck, I bet we'd even accept a 6th or 7th rounder for him.

As for the other back, we need a grinder to get short yardage. M. Bell will be a very nice 1st and 2nd down back, Tater will be a very capable 3rd down back, and the last one will have to be able to grind out the short yardage. From watching the game Saturday, Nash seems a bit more suited to throwing himslef into a pile and pushing for that extra yard.

However, I think it's a tossup between Cobbs and Nash. That's just my gut feeling.

HAve you seen Kyle Johnson play so far this preseason? He is a real solid player and I think he will beat out Sapp for starting fullback. Cobbs hasn't done much at all and I'm sure he will be gone. Dayne is a nice insurance policy and proved as much last year. Bell squared, Dayne, Kyle and Sapp will be our running back compliment.

[WayOutWest]

The jets need a back right now.

Kevan Barlow

[WayOutWest]

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I'm surprised that Nash is still making that much after getting cut from TENN. and his draft spot doesn't factor in.

I dont think it has as much to do with draft status as it does with the fact that Nash is a second year player. each year the min goes up by about about 75K

[dsmoot]

I really hope Shanahan doesn't take another gargantuan risk by only keeping 2 QBs on the roster.

The risk will not be near as bad as last year when you had 2 QB's and your backup was BVP.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think Cobbs is the guy

[Ballhawk]

With a Rookie starting, Shanny may feel better about having Dayne, a guy that has performed when it counts, at #3 over a guy with more upside. Hopefully Dayne can play this week and shed some light on it.

[ward63]

Bell's, Dayne, and Cobbs, w/Nash to the PS. Also the reason Nash's contract is worth that much, is b/c we took him off of waivers when Woods failed his physical and you pick up the guys current contract when you do that. So it's basically still his rookie contract.

[Rock Chalk]

Dayne won the Cowboys game...He's gotten no votes so far.

I'll admit that Bell is a huge asset for our team, but I maintain that we could get a hell of a lot in return for him.

I don't think he'd be happy being the change of pace back for a 2nd straight year. RBs don't have a lot of seasons...from his perspective, he's waisting time.
Dayne is gone. When he has been in he has shown NOTHING.

Tatum has shown enough to maintain and there is no way in hell Shanahan is trading his #2 RB who is faster than Portis and can completely change the game. Dayne won the game agains the Cowboys because of a gaping large hole bigger than the Grand Canyon. Tatum won the Redskins games for us because of our lethargic offense because of SPEED. A 4th and 1 and he breaks it for a TD. Dayne would not have even converted on that play.

[JCMElway]

Hey Majik, where the hell are ya? You gotta come out here and defend your adopted player!

[ZONA]

Very hard to tell since just about anybody in a Broncos uniform would have had 5.0 yards per rush last night against the Titans.

I think Dayne is gone. He's the oldest and slowest back we have. The thing he's got going his way is massive size and leg drive and we just might need that at goal line. Our Oline is not a huge group and will not blow any Dline back at the goal line so a back with some big size could be needed there. However, I think Cobbs has enough size at 230 to get that job done, and having seen Mike Bell do well in goal line might make cutting Dayne easier. Plus, I think Cobbs can do some back up FB duty.

I also think we only keep 2 QB's but I think that spot goes to Ernster because of Todd's suspension. Plus, we have the deepest WR pool in years and I think we keep an extra receiver, not to mention Nate Jackson so the RB pool will not be more then 5.

Hey, give some Kudos to that Oline man. They are the ones who are making this a tough call. When you have those kinds of lanes, and everybody on your team is ripping huge gains, well, job well done Oline.

* Mike Bell
* Kyle Johnson
* Tatum Bell
* Cedric Cobbs
* I won't name the last guy because I think this is a bubble spot. Nash looked great last night but I can also see Dayne possibly sticking if he has a good showing. I think Miree and and Sapp are on the outside looking in. They have not been played much at all. I think the last spot comes down to Dayne and Nash.

[bcbronc]

i think dayne's spot is fairly safe, assuming his injury doesn't keep him off the field the rest of pre-season.

dayne has a year in the system, and shanny and co were pretty happy with him last year. he hasn't done a ton this camp, but i think dayne is the kind of guy who needs some live action to really show what he can do. dayne's also been a class act here, and that's important when it comes to depth players.

i think nash will be PS. cobbs gets cut. simple fact is, nash had overtaken cobbs on the depth chart after being on the roster for less than a month. cobbs, on the other hand, never did overtake dayne, despite dayne's lack-luster performance to date.

bottom line, imo, i don't see shanny going into the season with a backfield consisting of a udfa, a back that hasn't shown he can handle more than 10 carries a game yet (plus has had some nagging injuries in both his seasons) and a 2nd year guy who has only had a month in the system and got cut recently (from a coach shanny has a great deal of respect for) for being too fat. at least dayne has the right attitude, has a full year in the system, and has shown he can be an asset in the #3 spot.

[JCMElway]

Very hard to tell since just about anybody in a Broncos uniform would have had 5.0 yards per rush last night against the Titans.

I think Dayne is gone. He's the oldest and slowest back we have. The thing he's got going his way is massive size and leg drive and we just might need that at goal line.

Have to disagree with you here. Dayne is not a goal line back. He never has been. Ask the Giants how he worlde out with goal line carries.

Both Cobbs and Nash have more goal line ability then Dayne does.

Dayne

is

toast.

[JCMElway]

i think dayne's spot is fairly safe, assuming his injury doesn't keep him off the field the rest of pre-season.

dayne has a year in the system, and shanny and co were pretty happy with him last year. he hasn't done a ton this camp, but i think dayne is the kind of guy who needs some live action to really show what he can do. dayne's also been a class act here, and that's important when it comes to depth players.

i think nash will be PS. cobbs gets cut. simple fact is, nash had overtaken cobbs on the depth chart after being on the roster for less than a month. cobbs, on the other hand, never did overtake dayne, despite dayne's lack-luster performance to date.

bottom line, imo, i don't see shanny going into the season with a backfield consisting of a udfa, a back that hasn't shown he can handle more than 10 carries a game yet (plus has had some nagging injuries in both his seasons) and a 2nd year guy who has only had a month in the system and got cut recently (from a coach shanny has a great deal of respect for) for being too fat. at least dayne has the right attitude, has a full year in the system, and has shown he can be an asset in the #3 spot.


Possibly. Nice arguments, but I do think Dayne is in trouble.

[bcbronc]

Possibly. Nice arguments, but I do think Dayne is in trouble.


i guess we'll have to let shanny cast the deciding vote then. ;)

[JCMElway]

i guess we'll have to let shanny cast the deciding vote then. ;)

No, No, ME! I wanna, I wanna!

Ron Dayne, You're Fired! :approve:

[bilrob]

Lots of good thoughts here. So here is mine. Dayne. Showed what we needed last year when the chips were down. Dallas. He really isn't the big line buster that Shanny thought he would be, and he doesn't have that initial cut that he likes, but he has been dependable. The Bells. To me both are safe in their positions. Unless someone should make a big offer for Tatum, like a #1 draft choice or a first string DT that is proven. Now as to Cobbs and Nash. Both are the type of runners that Bobby likes. Cobbs is a little bigger and maybe runs a little higher than Nash, but still strong and Shanny likes him. Nash a little heavy but powerful, runs lower and more of a slasher. About his history???. Sapp has been running first string but has been dinged a little and is why Johnson was in the game. IMO, it is going to boil down to who is the better at blocking and receiving. And, that will include all of the running backs except perhaps the Bells. As many of you believe, I think Dayne will be released early or maybe traded for a draft choice somewhere

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I really don't care if Nash carries a few extra pounds as long as it doesn't affect his performance. The added weight might just make him a little harder to tackle. It doesn't matter if it shortens his career because backs have short careers anyway and, provided he's the real deal, we're going to use him up and dump him in a couple years, regardless. Nature of the business.

[Clockwork Orange]

Nature of the business.

Definitely nature of the Broncos. This year will be the 4th straight that they've started the season with a new starting running back.

[ZONA]

Sapp has been running first string but has been dinged a little and is why Johnson was in the game. IMO, it is going to boil down to who is the better at blocking and receiving.

I wouldn't put too much stock into Sapp running first string FB. I think that is more of a "lets see what he can do running with 1st string talent". Johnson was a very good FB last year. The guys has excellent hands. It's not like our FB's are dozers anyway. Really, they're used to just get a hat on somebody while the back chooses their cutback lane, and to catch passes from the bootlegs. Kyle will be 1st string come regular season. I think that's a safe bet.

[anthonypacino]

The Bell's, Nash, Sapp and KJ will make the cut. Sapp will get the starting nod. I have never really thought KJ was very good, if not for Mike Anderson getting hurt for the entire season he wouldn't have been on the team. ( Q was starting Anderson was the FB, Anderson got hurt so Droughns became the FB when Q went south Ruben became the RB and KJ became the FB.) Denver will also carry 6 WR's and with Terrell and Clark being out, Hixon will be IR'd Clark to the practice squad. 2 QB's and that will be Sauerbraun's fault since we will have to carry 3 kickers, maybe BVP could be brought back after Todd's suspension is over. Maybe, just maybe Ernster could play well enought for Shanny to part ways with "little Romo".