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epicSocialism4tw
08-17-2006, 01:44 PM
As one would expect from the overly sentimental and traditionally anti-Bronco rag that is Sports Illustrated, SI chose to downplay the long list of accomplishments and statistical dominance that Sharpe has over his competition to wax sentimental about the first receiving threat as a TE.

The guys at SI get more and more senile as time goes by. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.NFLtopTE/content.10.html

I think that the argument against Sharpe is very difficult from all angles because he has it all. He owns the stats, has the championships (3), was an integral piece of a dominant team. And he was easily the best TE of his generation. He was a complete player. Blocking was not a weakness.

Shannon Sharpe
+-------------------------+
| Receiving |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| 1990 den | 16 | 7 99 14.1 1 |
| 1991 den | 16 | 22 322 14.6 1 |
| 1992 den | 16 | 53 640 12.1 2 |
| 1993 den | 16 | 81 995 12.3 9 |
| 1994 den | 15 | 87 1010 11.6 4 |
| 1995 den | 13 | 63 756 12.0 4 |
| 1996 den | 15 | 80 1062 13.3 10 |
| 1997 den | 16 | 72 1107 15.4 3 |
| 1998 den | 16 | 64 768 12.0 10 |
| 1999 den | 5 | 23 224 9.7 0 |
| 2000 bal | 16 | 67 810 12.1 5 |
| 2001 bal | 16 | 73 811 11.1 2 |
| 2002 den | 12 | 61 686 11.2 3 |
| 2003 den | 15 | 62 770 12.4 8 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 203 | 815 10060 12.3 62 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Receptions: 1993-8, 1994-8
Receiving yards: 1993-10
Receiving TDs: 1993-5t, 1996-5t, 1998-6t
Rush/Receive TDs: 1993-9t


Among the league's all-time top 50Receptions: 12
Receiving yards: 25
Receiving TDs: 48t


Postseason data

Year Opp Result | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------
1991 hou W,26-24 | 3 20 0
1991 buf L,7-10 | 3 40 0
1993 rai L,24-42 | 13 156 1
1996 jax L,27-30 | 2 31 1
1997 jax W,42-17 | 2 29 0
1997 kan W,14-10 | 2 33 0
1997 pit W,24-21 | 3 49 0
*1997 gnb W,31-24 | 5 38 0
1998 mia W,38-3 | 5 38 0
1998 nyj W,23-10 | 2 14 0
*1998 atl W,34-19 | 2 26 0
2000 den W,21-3 | 3 73 1
2000 ten W,24-10 | 1 56 0
2000 oak W,16-3 | 1 96 1
*2000 nyg W,34-7 | 1 5 0
2001 mia W,20-3 | 4 23 0
2001 pit L,10-27 | 5 56 0
2003 ind L,10-41 | 5 31 0
---------------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 62 814 4


* - Super Bowl

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2006, 01:46 PM
Gonzalez will break all of his records.

ZachKC
08-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Damn, cool picture.

http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.NFLtopTE/images/gonz.jpg

Garcia Bronco
08-17-2006, 01:47 PM
Novacek is better than Ben Coates, and John Mackey couldn't hold Sharpe's bottom lip

Alkazar
08-17-2006, 01:48 PM
We're not talking LPs here Boob.

ZachKC
08-17-2006, 01:49 PM
We're not talking LPs here Boob.
LP?

Steve Sewell
08-17-2006, 01:49 PM
Gonzalez will break all of his records as a Bronco.

Hilarious!

freak6
08-17-2006, 01:49 PM
Not to mention him OWNING Derrick Thomas on MNF, leading to the worst on the field meltdown in history, way way worse than the Frenchy Headbutt.

Sharpe got in Thomass' fkd up head and made him lose his fkn mind.

You reading this bobby.

FK Derrick Thomas. I wish he was smart enough to wear a seat belt, so we could have embarrassed that classless POS even more. To bad.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2006, 01:50 PM
Hilarious!

I doubt Gonzalez will end up in Denver. I think he will retire as a Chief.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2006, 01:51 PM
Damn, cool picture.

http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.NFLtopTE/images/gonz.jpg

I was at that game. My first Chiefs game.

Garcia Bronco
08-17-2006, 01:51 PM
Not to mention him OWNING Derrick Thomas on MNF, leading to the worst on the field meltdown in history, way way worse than the Frenchy Headbutt.

Sharpe got in Thomass' fkd up head and made him lose his fkn mind.

You reading this bobby.

FK Derrick Thomas.


Easy

ZachKC
08-17-2006, 01:52 PM
Not to mention him OWNING Derrick Thomas on MNF, leading to the worst on the field meltdown in history, way way worse than the Frenchy Headbutt.

Sharpe got in Thomass' fkd up head and made him lose his fkn mind.

You reading this bobby.

FK Derrick Thomas. I wish he was smart enough to wear a seat belt, so we could have embarrassed that classless POS even more. To bad.
Jeez, take a nap or something...

epicSocialism4tw
08-17-2006, 01:53 PM
Tony Gonzales
+-------------------------+
| Receiving |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| 1997 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1997.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan1997.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#1997) | 33 368 11.2 2 |
| 1998 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1998.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan1998.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#1998) | 59 621 10.5 2 |
| 1999 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan1999.htm) | 15 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#1999) | 76 849 11.2 11 |
| 2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2000.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan2000.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#2000) | 93 1203 12.9 9 |
| 2001 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan2001.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#2001) | 73 917 12.6 6 |
| 2002 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan2002.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#2002) | 63 773 12.3 7 |
| 2003 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan2003.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#2003) | 71 916 12.9 10 |
| 2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan2004.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#2004) | 102 1258 12.3 7 |
| 2005 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005.htm) kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan2005.htm) | 16 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GonzTo00.htm#2005) | 78 905 11.6 2 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 143 | 648 7810 12.1 56 |
+----------+-----+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10

<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Receptions:</TD><TD>2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/leaders2000.htm)-10, 2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/leaders2004.htm)-1</TD></TR><TR><TD>Receiving yards:</TD><TD>2004 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/leaders2004.htm)-7</TD></TR><TR><TD>Receiving TDs:</TD><TD>1999 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/leaders1999.htm)-6t, 2000 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/leaders2000.htm)-6t, 2003 (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/leaders2003.htm)-4t</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Among the league's all-time top 50

<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Receptions (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/misc/rec.htm):</TD><TD>30</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Postseason data




Year Opp Result | REC YD TD---------------------+----------------- 1997 den (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den1997.htm) L,10-14 | 3 26 1 2003 ind (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/clt2003.htm) L,31-38 | 4 55 0---------------------+-----------------TOTAL | 7 81 1</PRE>

-Slap-
08-17-2006, 01:54 PM
LP?

You 20-somethings are a real sketch.

http://invsee.asu.edu/ImageGallery/Real/Engineering/Photo/record_lp4.JPG

See? It looks like a big black CD with a little hole in the middle. We used to call them LPs.

freak6
08-17-2006, 01:55 PM
<img src="http://images.nfl.com/photos/img5819115.jpg">

Killericon
08-17-2006, 02:03 PM
What a crock.

If Shannon's worse than anyone, it's Kellen Winslow...and he's 5th.

ZachKC
08-17-2006, 02:07 PM
Hopefully freak tells us more about what is and is not classy.

Smiling Assassin27
08-17-2006, 02:10 PM
Blocking is a relative term--and why Sharpe got tagged as a 'weak blocker' is really an injustice. Look at the running back statistics while the guy was TE and no credible case can be made that he was a weak blocker. Gonzo is quite a talent but he'll never contribute to a Super Bowl on one team, let alone two. Sharpe has the rings to go along with the stats while Gonzo does not.

Orange_Beard
08-17-2006, 02:12 PM
Gonzalez will break all of his records.

Sharpe will always have more superbowl rings.

epicSocialism4tw
08-17-2006, 02:15 PM
Here are the rankings:

1. John Mackey
2. Shannon Sharpe
3. Dave Casper
4. Ozzie Newsome
5. Ditka
6. Kellen Winslow
7. Tony Gonzalez
8. Mark Bavaro
9. Todd Christiansen
10. Ben Coates

Notable omissions:
Brent Jones
Jay Novacek
Charlie Sanders
Crazylegs Hirsch
Dwight Clark

NYBronc
08-17-2006, 02:17 PM
You 20-somethings are a real sketch.

http://invsee.asu.edu/ImageGallery/Real/Engineering/Photo/record_lp4.JPG

See? It looks like a big black CD with a little hole in the middle. We used to call them LPs.


To elaborate further for our young grasshoppers:

LP - Long Play Record. 33 1/3 RPMs. 12" - Up to 30 minutes per side.

EP- Extended Play Record. 45 RPMs. Usually a 7 inch single with 2 songs per side.

BigPlayShay
08-17-2006, 02:18 PM
Gonzalez may surpass Shay's recieving records, but he will finish with minimal post season accomplishments, zero championships, and will never have been a part of blocking for a 2,000 yard rusher.

He can dunk over goal posts though!!!

kamakazi_kal
08-17-2006, 02:19 PM
gonzo is going to have a tough time breaking those records since he will be blocking all the time now that roaf is gone

Steve Sewell
08-17-2006, 02:29 PM
I doubt Gonzalez will end up in Denver. I think he will retire as a Chief.

Yeah but don't you think he'd want to go out a winner?

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2006, 02:30 PM
Gonzalez isn't even the best blocking tight end on our roster. You think we're keeping two tight ends in on every play?

Turley will do just fine.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2006, 02:31 PM
Sharpe will always have more superbowl rings.

Sharpe won all of his rings late in his career.

You are basically saying there is no way Gonzalez can do that?

Hotrod
08-17-2006, 02:35 PM
Sharpe won all of his rings late in his career.

You are basically saying there is no way Gonzalez can do that?

As a Chef...no
With King Carl pulling the strings....no
With Herm calling the shots....no
With Croyle the future.....no

elsid13
08-17-2006, 02:36 PM
Bobo

Go away and choke your chicken to GONZO somewhere else.

Steve Sewell
08-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Sharpe won all of his rings late in his career.

You are basically saying there is no way Gonzalez can do that?

Unequivocally, yes.

watermock
08-17-2006, 02:42 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:hA4-Djsv-ed7yM:http://www.buy-vintage-records.com/CF14.jpg

Then we had mini-LP's that were smaller with a bigger hole. You always had to put the plastic insert in the middle for the "high Fi" turntable. First one I had was Revolution on one side and Hey Jude on the other. I think it was the best selling 45 of all time.

Amigo
08-17-2006, 02:46 PM
Not to mention him OWNING Derrick Thomas on MNF, leading to the worst on the field meltdown in history, way way worse than the Frenchy Headbutt.

Sharpe got in Thomass' fkd up head and made him lose his fkn mind.

You reading this bobby.

FK Derrick Thomas. I wish he was smart enough to wear a seat belt, so we could have embarrassed that classless POS even more. To bad.

Damn dude. That's a little bit much.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-17-2006, 02:47 PM
Homer.

Hotrod
08-17-2006, 02:49 PM
Damn dude. That's a little bit much.

While Freak was abit over the top lets all just be happy he did not point out that its a shame DT could not have kept some of his time & money that he so graciously donated to charity and gave just a bit to his children. Maybe even a phone call.

24champ
08-17-2006, 02:54 PM
Not to mention him OWNING Derrick Thomas on MNF, leading to the worst on the field meltdown in history, way way worse than the Frenchy Headbutt.

Sharpe got in Thomass' fkd up head and made him lose his fkn mind.

You reading this bobby.

FK Derrick Thomas. I wish he was smart enough to wear a seat belt, so we could have embarrassed that classless POS even more. To bad.
TOUCHE...Hey remember when...


Blocked punt helps Broncos top Chiefs in OT

NFL.com wire reports

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (Oct. 20, 2002) -- Shannon Sharpe proved there's still plenty of life in his 34-year-old legs. There was never a doubt about his attitude.

Sharpe set an NFL record for tight ends with 214 yards receiving, and his two second-half touchdown catches helped the Denver Broncos rally from a 14-point deficit to beat the Kansas City Chiefs 37-34 in overtime.

Sharpe, who made 12 catches, set a single-game franchise record for receiving yards and broke Jackie Smith's league mark for tight ends.

Smith had 212 yards receiving on nine catches for the St. Louis Cardinals against Pittsburgh on Oct. 13, 1963.

Sharpe caught a pair of scoring passes from Brian Griese, who was 30 of 50 for a career-best 376 yards, as Denver (5-2) defeated the Chiefs (3-4) at Arrowhead Stadium for the first time since 1998.

After Sharpe beat three defenders for his first TD, an 82-yarder, he couldn't resist needling Kansas City's fans. He bent down in the end zone, unfastened some tape from his shoe and showed them what was written underneath.

"It says, 'Big Play Shay,' " Sharpe said. "I just wanted to let everyone know I was still back."

http://www.nfl.com/ce/recap/0,3762,NFL_20021020_DEN@KC,00.html

freak6
08-17-2006, 03:00 PM
<img src="http://www.rememberdt.com/4767d6c0.jpg">

"Look Derrick, I know your stressing about your 12 kids, that you know about, and I excuse you for embarrassing yourself, your family, your POS GM, your retard mullethead fans, and your loser coach. Just remember, Click it or Ticket".

A bit much?

He tried to rip Shannon Sharpe's head OFF of his body. Fk'em and fk the chiefs str8 up.

Gonzo is a beast. In our offense, Gonzo would have been close to Sharpe, but remember when Shannon caught that pass vs the Seahawks when John ducked the blitzing LB, Sharpes speed was to much for even Safeties. Remember Kenoy Kennedy haplessly chasing him in the playoffs vs us with that fumble recovery. Shannon Sharpe was the best instant mismatch in tackle football.

freak6
08-17-2006, 03:19 PM
Sharpe seemed delighted about the Chiefs utter meltdown on National Television, embarrassing themselves, the franchise, and thier troglodite fans.

"I got a guy suspended, I got a guy cut, a coach resigned, and another thought about resigning," he said. "I'm pretty good. I ought to go in politics."

The coach who thought about resigning was Miami's Jimmy Johnson, who flirted briefly with retirement after his Dolphins were blown out by the Broncos, 38-3, in a divisional playoff game.

It was after that game that Sharpe called Dolphins quarterback Dan Marino "a loser," <b>sent word for Johnson to evacuate his office at Pro Player Stadium "because we're going to need it to break down film," </b>and chided the Dolphins with this rhetorical question: "How does it feel to have the Super Bowl at your house, and you're not invited?"

Hotrod
08-17-2006, 03:22 PM
One thing for sure no other TE had the one liners Sharpe had Ha!

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-17-2006, 03:36 PM
While I would pick Sharpe as the best ever, I can see the sentiment for Mackey. He doesn't have the stats, but he did define the position. He was a monster in his day.

BigPlayShay
08-17-2006, 03:52 PM
After Sharpe beat three defenders for his first TD, an 82-yarder, he couldn't resist needling Kansas City's fans. He bent down in the end zone, unfastened some tape from his shoe and showed them what was written underneath.

"It says, 'Big Play Shay,' " Sharpe said. "I just wanted to let everyone know I was still back."


Big Play Shay, still has a nice ring to it :yayaya:

Kaylore
08-17-2006, 05:56 PM
One thing for sure no other TE had the one liners Sharpe had Ha! So true. I think his smack talking ability is what tips the scale to him being number one.

Gonzo is downhill from here. They are going to have to keep him in to block a lot this season and he'll ger frustrated and start whining again. After Trent gets sacked all season long, he'll retire and by the time Carl Peterson finds someone who can throw the ball to him, Tony G. Will be retired.

RMT
08-17-2006, 06:13 PM
Gonzalez isn't even the best blocking tight end on our roster. You think we're keeping two tight ends in on every play?

Turley will do just fine.

Turley will be a disappointment, consistent with every team he's been on.

Circle Orange
08-17-2006, 06:41 PM
Aren't these the same goobers who said Elway wasn't among the top 50 athletes of this century? Or was that ESPN...it don't matter. They're all in on the conspiracy...:clown: think about it. Lack of representation in the HOF, and now they run down two of the franchise's best players. Somebody must hate orange.

Sassy
08-17-2006, 06:44 PM
As a Chef...no
With King Carl pulling the strings....no
With Herm calling the shots....no
With Croyle the future.....no
You forgot one..."with the Broncos in the same division" ;D

Orange_Beard
08-17-2006, 06:48 PM
Sharpe won all of his rings late in his career.

You are basically saying there is no way Gonzalez can do that?


Hmm, 4 rings with the Chefs.

More then basically, NO WAY!

Orange_Beard
08-17-2006, 06:48 PM
Sharpe won all of his rings late in his career.

You are basically saying there is no way Gonzalez can do that?


Hmm, 4 rings with the Chefs.

More then basically, NO WAY!

Hotrod
08-18-2006, 07:16 AM
Gonzalez isn't even the best blocking tight end on our roster. You think we're keeping two tight ends in on every play?

Turley will do just fine.

LOL do you still feel this way after watching him get flat out owned last night Ha!

Trint cant feel good about this one bit. I love the new look chefs same efense questionable O......!Booya!

Bob's your Information Minister
08-18-2006, 07:23 AM
Our first-team offense moved the ball just fine with Turley in the game. A penalty killed a drive but...eh, it's preseason.

None of you had anything to say about Turley the other night when he was kicking ass.

Hotrod
08-18-2006, 07:34 AM
Our first-team offense moved the ball just fine with Turley in the game. A penalty killed a drive but...eh, it's preseason.

None of you had anything to say about Turley the other night when he was kicking ass.

I did not see the first game if he "kicked ***" what happened is he moving in the wrong direction??? Maybe his size is already starting to show. Its early thats true but you cant possible like what you saw last night and I guarantee TrInt is none to happy.

Where was that rook QB.....is he hurt or just simply 5th on the depth chart ;D I actually was hoping to see him play.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-18-2006, 07:39 AM
He's playing next week, as is Hali.

Dedhed
08-18-2006, 08:48 AM
Sharpe won all of his rings late in his career.

You are basically saying there is no way Gonzalez can do that?
I have a hard time picturing Gonzo winning 3 playoff games in a row, let alone 12.

Rohirrim
08-18-2006, 09:09 AM
Sharpe will always have more superbowl rings.

Ouch! Ha!

Rohirrim
08-18-2006, 09:12 AM
"I got a guy suspended, I got a guy cut, a coach resigned, and another thought about resigning," he said. "I'm pretty good. I ought to go in politics."



Hilarious! Man, I miss Shannon.

obediah
08-18-2006, 09:20 AM
I miss him too, and its a good example of how Sharpe Out-shines all the rest. Basically it boils down to his mouth, his BIG mouth, he pissed so many players off In-Game, they messed up, he pumped up his team with his big mouth, He brought a lot to the field with that mouth of his, and in my opinion Makes him #Uno!

Obediah

orange 4 life
08-18-2006, 09:54 AM
i dont think sharpe is the greatest tight end ever either.

no knock on the guy, because he is a hall of famer all the way, but IMO not the best ever.
the best PASS CATCHING tight end sure, but not the best overall.
personally, i give that to newsome.
just my .02

Steve Sewell
08-18-2006, 10:18 AM
i dont think sharpe is the greatest tight end ever either.

no knock on the guy, because he is a hall of famer all the way, but IMO not the best ever.
the best PASS CATCHING tight end sure, but not the best overall.
personally, i give that to newsome.
just my .02

Pfft. Newsome homer...LOL

0SE7EN
08-18-2006, 09:54 PM
Kyle Turley...oh boy. Willie Roaf is one of the best at the position. Turley couldn't carry Roaf's jock. Hell, he could use Roaf's jock as a parachute maybe.

Yeah...Turley...good luck with that. I can see LJ now..."okay, where's Turley...hmmm better run the other way"

TomServo
08-19-2006, 02:18 AM
"mr. president call the national guard because we are killing the patriots":D

totally pssd me off tho w/he caught that fluke deflection for a touchdown
against the ravens.

TomServo
08-19-2006, 02:26 AM
the best PASS CATCHING tight end sure, but not the best overall.


dunno about that. would TD have gone over 2000 without sharpe blocking? downfield especially?

0SE7EN
08-19-2006, 05:47 AM
dunno about that. would TD have gone over 2000 without sharpe blocking? downfield especially?

I don't know. Shannon was just an okay blocker but not great. I would give credit to Eddie Mac and Rod Smith's downfield blocking before Shannon. Again, he wasn't a horrible blocker, but he wasn't that great either.
But on third down, there's no other TE I'd rather throw the ball to. The guy was clutch.

orange 4 life
08-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Pfft. Newsome homer...LOL

LOL

i just call 'em like i see 'em.

the "plummer homer" stuff cracks me up since im only supporting the guy
based on what he's done.
its not like i was a fan of his before he came here, but whatever.
"homer" is the new favorite word for some people around here.

Atlas
08-19-2006, 01:35 PM
Sharpe was not only an adequate blocker but he turned into being a good blocker. He got great position on his blocks and did what he had to to get the RB by him. Anyone who says Sharpe was a poor blocker never watched him play.

fdf
08-19-2006, 01:47 PM
Here are the rankings:

1. John Mackey
2. Shannon Sharpe
3. Dave Casper
4. Ozzie Newsome
5. Ditka
6. Kellen Winslow
7. Tony Gonzalez
8. Mark Bavaro
9. Todd Christiansen
10. Ben Coates

Notable omissions:
Brent Jones
Jay Novacek
Charlie Sanders
Crazylegs Hirsch
Dwight Clark


Any one of 'em could play on my team. Sharpe was a winner, though. He made the big play when everything was on the line. Those don't show up in the stats.

NOLA Bronco
08-19-2006, 03:09 PM
Um, how many people here actually saw Mackey play? I didn't, so I asked my pops.

He said - its a different game, but Mackey was better in his era than Sharpe was in his.

Atlas
08-19-2006, 03:15 PM
Um, how many people here actually saw Mackey play? I didn't, so I asked my pops.

He said - its a different game, but Mackey was better in his era than Sharpe was in his.

sounds like your dad is one of those guys that had to walk up hill in the snow three miles to school with no shoes... everyday until he was 18.

Sharpe revolutionized the TE position. No one was better.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-19-2006, 03:26 PM
sounds like your dad is one of those guys that had to walk up hill in the snow three miles to school with no shoes... everyday until he was 18.

Sharpe revolutionized the TE position. No one was better.

I saw them both play and in those rankings the guy that is really under rated is Charlie Sanders. He was better than 3-4 of the guys on the top ten list.

You are right, Sharpe revolutionized (maybe a little overstated), but Mackey defined it in the first place. Both were great.

NOLA Bronco
08-19-2006, 03:41 PM
sounds like your dad is one of those guys that had to walk up hill in the snow three miles to school with no shoes... everyday until he was 18.

Sharpe revolutionized the TE position. No one was better.

Didn't every dad?

That doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. In addition to being a smart guy, he used to coach.

Sharpe was great, the best I have seen. But unless you saw them both, you can't really make a proper statement about the "greatest". The games and stats are just different.

Breck Bronc
08-19-2006, 04:05 PM
Postseason data

Year Opp Result | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------
1991 hou W,26-24 | 3 20 0
1991 buf L,7-10 | 3 40 0
1993 rai L,24-42 | 13 156 1
1996 jax L,27-30 | 2 31 1
1997 jax W,42-17 | 2 29 0
1997 kan W,14-10 | 2 33 0
1997 pit W,24-21 | 3 49 0
*1997 gnb W,31-24 | 5 38 0
1998 mia W,38-3 | 5 38 0
1998 nyj W,23-10 | 2 14 0
*1998 atl W,34-19 | 2 26 0
2000 den W,21-3 | 3 73 1
2000 ten W,24-10 | 1 56 0
2000 oak W,16-3 | 1 96 1
*2000 nyg W,34-7 | 1 5 0
2001 mia W,20-3 | 4 23 0
2001 pit L,10-27 | 5 56 0
2003 ind L,10-41 | 5 31 0
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TOTAL | 62 814 4


* - Super BowlIt's too bad Shannon never had a huge Super Bowl performance in his three games in the spotlight. He did get hurt early against Atlanta, so that took away one chance.

I'll never forget his performance in that Wild Card loss to the Raiders. What a great game he had, which didn't mean anything due to the inept defensive effort from Charlie Waters' boys. Jeff Hostetler and Napoleon McCallum had Waters holding his head in his hands in shame on the bench.

broncocalijohn
08-19-2006, 04:49 PM
You 20-somethings are a real sketch.

http://invsee.asu.edu/ImageGallery/Real/Engineering/Photo/record_lp4.JPG

See? It looks like a big black CD with a little hole in the middle. We used to call them LPs.

We called it black licorice pizza. Small child of the 70s. Thanks mom for those haircuts cover them ears.