I'll see you guys after the Chiefs game...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Go ahead and talk about how much KC sucks in this thread. I'm sure they will look like ass tonight.

[Rocket 7]

Stay gone bitch

[troya900]

LMAO Boob I'm already seeing the bootleg working wonders against KC's Defense...Hilarious!

[dumpy]

3 bootlegs on the scoring drive and the chokes bit on everyone.

Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!

[Dr. Broncenstein]

David Carr just bootlegged the length of the field... and teh Cheeves just laid down. That last run was completely uncontested. How can you not lay a hand on a running back going straight up the middle on 2nd-and-goal? I'm serious... completely untouched, right up the gut..

[GreatBronco16]

Houston goes 17 plays for 85 yards and gets a TD. 62 yards rushing on that drive.


Now please tell me that it was against all your backups.

[Moon§hiner]

Herm is so confident of his team he has the starters in the entire first quarter??

[WoodMan]

Who put the E in that _efense?Hilarious! LOL :giggle: ;D :rofl: ROFL! :yep:

[shakenbake]

Chiefs Suck

[shakenbake]

Who put the E in that _efense?Hilarious! LOL :giggle: ;D :rofl: ROFL! :yep:

GUN !!!!!

[GreatBronco16]

Herm is so confident of his team he has the starters in the entire first quarter??


That's nothing, Jax has their starting Offense in at the start of the 2nd quarter.

[elsid13]

glad to see the bootleg still is to hard for KC D to grasp

[Moon§hiner]

They are still in here in the second quarter......pretty unconventional for a first preseason game...I'd be questioning Shannys sanity if he ever did this.

[GreatBronco16]

Dee Brown having a better night than LJ the Great. Hmmm, wonder if Crazywhore would think there might be a RB controversy in KC?



Naw, not in KC.

[Priest Dante]

Dee Brown having a better night than LJ the Great. Hmmm, wonder if Crazywhore would think there might be a RB controversy in KC?



Naw, not in KC.
I see the LJ envy is still going strong in every Donky fan's life.

[Clockwork Orange]

I see the LJ envy is still going strong in every Donky fan's life.

LOL

How's that go? Oh yeah, I love you retards. You trailer dwellars bring so much unintentional comedy to this board, it's priceless. :rofl:

[Clockwork Orange]

3 bootlegs on the scoring drive and the chokes bit on everyone.

Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!

ROFL!

Kubiak knows them oh so well.

[GreatBronco16]

I see the LJ envy is still going strong in every Donky fan's life.


*ZOOM!!!!!* Well that went right over your head.

[Moon§hiner]

KC's second string offense doesn't seem to be as effective against the Texans second string D...3 and out

[Sassy]

score?

[GreatBronco16]

7-7

[Moon§hiner]

7-7 Kansas City first team offense scored on 2nd team defense finally in the 2nd quarter.

[shakenbake]

giving up 95 rushing yards in the first half is good right ?

[Moon§hiner]

13-7 Texans..PAT pending

[RhymesayersDU]

How's our little Kubiak doing?

He's all grown up now!

[GreatBronco16]

giving up 95 rushing yards in the first half is good right ?


When you're the chiefs _efense, it is.

[Moon§hiner]

You can see Kubiaks touch on this team...I tuned in more to see how his team was than to watch another boring Chief game....Bootlegs, rollouts and empty backfield....I think they will be fun to watch this year.

[Spider]

Yikes , looks like Kubes to the Texans was the right move ......... next time I am in Houston I am ging to Utility trailors off of 59 and collect my Dinner , I know it is only 1 preseason Game , but Carr must be in hog heaven right now completing plays and still standing upright ............

[Moon§hiner]

Rosenthal looks almost like Jay Cutler against the Chiefs.

[Moon§hiner]

Qb printers reminds me of Jarious Jackson, nice feet but........I wouldn't want him as my 2nd qb

[Jetmeck]

Bootleg left, bootleg right......Chefs first team D or second team D...same result.

KC announcers said Herm has a sign in the locker room....
something like .......
#1 know your job
#2 don't worry about others just do your job

I think his #1 should be never forget the bootleg because these red and white clowns are clueless

[Bronco9798]

I'm watching the Chiefs/Texans and thought I'd give a little analysis of both teams.

Both 1st units played the entire 1st quarter playing to a tie 7-7. If you want to see a replica of the Bronco offense, watch the Texans. David Carr isn't playing in the pocket. 5, count em 5, bootlegs in two series totally dominated the Chiefs Defense. The Texans rammed it down the Chiefs throat on the second series with the run and bootleg. Carr never got close to getting sacked. He moves around this year by design, not because of pressure.

The Texans D played well early but once the Chiefs got the running game rolling, there was nothing the Texans could do. Mario Williams wasn't even close to being a factor.

The Chiefs D just seemed confused with the bootleg and it had them thinking early. When plays were made up front it was Jared Allen stopping the run. The Chiefs had absolutely no pass rush. Surtain made a nice break-up on a pass and Law wasno factor really. If they had a bright spot, it was the run defense on the 1st series but it fell apart on the second series.

The Chiefs offense looked good once LJ got it rollling. Turley played very good in place of Roaf. No one got around him at all. His athleticism was huge. He held his own on every play. Mario was a ghost.

The Texans are a carbon copy of the Broncos offense as most probably expected. Carr looks like he's having fun now. No sacks.

The Chiefs are going to be the Chiefs. Fire-power on offense and suspect D if things continue like what I saw tonight.

Just passing that along if anyone is interested.

[Moon§hiner]

Half over.....Printers threw a nice duck to avoid a sack...not impressed Bob

[Bronco9798]

And Casey Printers is a joke. If Green goes down and this cluck plays, Cya Chiefs....

[Moon§hiner]

Ooops intentional grounding.....ran the clock out....still not impressed Bob

[Jetmeck]

Green had alot more pressure than last year. This will be the norm and they will be forced to dump it off quickly or
Green will pay.

[Iowanian]

Printers will probably be practice squad.

Huard will more than likely be the backup, with Croyle as the #3.

Huard hurt an ankle last week, Croyle has a sore shoulder.

The only good thing about the situation is, it will give Printers alot of reps to see if he can play.

Jeff Smoker was brought in thursday....and could see some 4th quarter snaps.

I see some things I've liked....and some that I haven't so far.

[Clockwork Orange]

I see some things I've liked....and some that I haven't so far.

Sounds like a standard first preseason game.

[Moon§hiner]

What's your thoughts on Herm making the 1st team offense play well into the 2nd quarter, Iowanian...injury factor alone made me think it was odd.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I don't really care about all that bootleg crap. It's preseason. We didn't gameplan for crap.

KC's first team defense looked good to me. They forced two three-and-outs and then got dicked on that 4th and 1.

Kyle Turley played well at left tackle...no problem. Willie who?

[Moon§hiner]

3rd teams pretty much in now...Chiefs 3 and out....time to throw the terraki shrimp on the grill with the steak and watch something more entertaining...like my home video of my last root canal.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What's your thoughts on Herm making the 1st team offense play well into the 2nd quarter, Iowanian...injury factor alone made me think it was odd.

Wasn't all that odd. They went 3 and out so Herm gave them another drive to get things done.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

By the way, our backup offensive line sucks ass. Chris Bober was in there playing left guard with the starters tonight and got abused. I feel sorry for Casey Printers. He's completed passes when he has time. He threw a deep ball to Jeff Webb that was just dropped.

Anyway, fun to see him scramble.

[Moon§hiner]

Wasn't all that odd. They went 3 and out so Herm gave them another drive to get things done.
So Kubiaks offense dominated the clock for most of the 1st quarter to keep your offense off the field?....I missed the first part actually.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So Kubiaks offense dominated the clock for most of the 1st quarter to keep your offense off the field?....I missed the first part actually.

The Texans went three and out on their first drive.

Then we went three and out.

Then the Texans went three and out, but they went for it on 4th and 1. They appeared to be stopped short of the first down, but the officials gave it to them. Then they ran some more clock off and scored.

Then our offense got back on the field and scored.

[Clockwork Orange]

The Texans went three and out on their first drive.

Then we went three and out.

Then the Texans went three and out, but they went for it on 4th and 1. They appeared to be stopped short of the first down, but the officials gave it to them. Then they ran some more clock off and scored.

Then our offense got back on the field and scored.

So, did Hali stop the bootleg like you said he would? ROFL!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Q is returning kicks for KC.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So, did Hali stop the bootleg like you said he would? ROFL!

Hali isn't playing. He had to graduate today, and he has sore ribs.

[Taco John]

Q is returning kicks for KC.



I always wondered why we never used him for this...

[Taco John]

Then the Texans went three and out, but they went for it on 4th and 1. They appeared to be stopped short of the first down, but the officials gave it to them. Then they ran some more clock off and scored.



That's not a three and out then...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I always wondered why we never used him for this...
He's so short that it takes another second for the ball to get to him, giving the kicking team more time to cover.

[Clockwork Orange]

Hali isn't playing. He had to graduate today, and he has sore ribs.

OK, but once he's in there, you guys won't get owned by the bootleg over and over, right? That was your claim anyway. I'm just curious as to how that works out for you.

So did I read correctly that Brodie Frayle is already nursing a shoulder injury?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's not a three and out then...

Eh, close enough. I'm not worried about our run defense because of a preseason game.

[Bronco9798]

Eh, close enough. I'm not worried about our run defense because of a preseason game.

Maybe you should be worried of it based on the last few years.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Maybe you should be worried of it based on the last few years.

I don't know why I have to keep explaining this, but our run defense was ranked 7th in the league last year. We gave up almost the same amount of yards per carry as Denver.

Horrible, I know.

[Bronco9798]

3rd quarter and Chiefs still haven't figured the bootleg out. This is getting comical.

[Bronco9798]

I don't know why I have to keep explaining this, but our run defense was ranked 7th in the league last year. We gave up almost the same amount of yards per carry as Denver.

Horrible, I know.

Bob, it's not the numbers, it's the breakdowns they have during most games. It's those 2 or 3 big plays that kill them.

[Inkana7]

17-7. Some nice depth that the chiefs have...

[JCMElway]

I see the LJ envy is still going strong in every Donky fan's life.

Is Larry Johnson better than any RB on the Bronc roster? Quite possibly. We had our guy in Portis and traded him for Champ. Would I love to see LJ in a Bronco uniform? Absolutely.

Do I think that Denver's running game will be as or more effective than the Chiefs? Unequivocally, yes.

It may be split up between three backs, but Denver will run for more yards than the Chiefs.

Write it down sucker.

[Broncoman13]

The Texans 4th back is making the Chefs look like the Chokes of old. 7 carries 55 yards and a score. Still can't figure out how to stop Kubes/Shanny's running attack!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bob, it's not the numbers, it's the breakdowns they have during most games. It's those 2 or 3 big plays that kill them.

Not really. It's our pass defense.

I noticed you aren't interested in talking about how good it's been tonight. Of course, I don't really care about it either. Preseason is meaningless.

[Bronco9798]

Herms laughing and joking on the sidelines. Guess he thinks it's funny too. He's saying, "Damn, this defense does suck."

[Bronco9798]

Not really. It's our pass defense.

I noticed you aren't interested in talking about how good it's been tonight. Of course, I don't really care about it either. Preseason is meaningless.

Read my first post back a few pages. I gave credit where I saw it...Go look..

[Clockwork Orange]

Not really. It's our pass defense.

I noticed you aren't interested in talking about how good it's been tonight. Of course, I don't really care about it either. Preseason is meaningless.

Against the mighty Texans passing game. You should be so proud.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I don't really care.

Q just caught two passes.

[Bronco9798]

Good lord, Printers is just awful...

[MechanicalBull]

is ty law playing?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Good lord, Printers is just awful...

He's had awful protection. But that was a bad throw, for sure.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

is ty law playing?

He WAS. The first-teamers are long gone.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Q is the feature back now.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Casey PrINTers.

[Bronco9798]

Printers needs to go back to Canada. He's just awful. He shorts one, then throws a pick...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Eh, his pass protection has been downright awful.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Printers just cannoned one for 50 yards. Perfect throw.

Q ran for 12 yards.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Touchdown Q.

God dammit.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Chiefs recover an onside kick.

[Inkana7]

Did sperm seriously just call an onside kick in a preseason game?

[Spider]

seeing Printer in action makes me like J cut alot more ........

[Spider]

Did sperm seriously just call an onside kick in a preseason game?
you play to win the game ........ or somthing like that ;D

[Bob's your Information Minister]

seeing Printer in action makes me like J cut alot more ........

Put Jay Cutler behind KC's third-string offensive line and watch him get his ass kicked.

[Clockwork Orange]

Put Jay Cutler behind KC's third-string offensive line and watch him get his ass kicked.

He played behind a combo of 2nd & 3rd teamers yesterday and looked just fine.

Printers is a CFL refugee. His career will go the way of Jarious Jackson.

[Spider]

Put Jay Cutler behind KC's third-string offensive line and watch him get his ass kicked.
Now why would I put a talented Kid into a shítty team like the chiefs ? 1 st string , 2 nd string , doesnt matter , Cutler is too good for the entire team ....... you got TrINT , be happy .........

[Spider]

He played behind a combo of 2nd & 3rd teamers yesterday and looked just fine.

Printers is a CFL refugee. His career will go the way of Jarious Jackson.
LOL , no need to make Boob feel any worse then he does right now , On side kick in preson is bad

[Bob's your Information Minister]

He played behind a combo of 2nd & 3rd teamers yesterday and looked just fine.

Printers is a CFL refugee. His career will go the way of Jarious Jackson.

My point is, I watched Cutler, and his pass protection was much better. Printers had awful protection all night.

[Jetmeck]

Chiefs GM, C. Peterson "Don't believe what you are seeing, we are a good football team."

Green was hurried several times, it is already starting.
But don't believe what you saw here tonight................

[Clockwork Orange]

My point is, I watched Cutler, and his pass protection was much better. Printers had awful protection all night.

No, it looked better because Cutler was decisive and got rid of the ball in a timely fashion. Van Pelt played behind the same line and got sacked 4 times because he couldn't make a decision on where he wanted to go with it quick enough.

Printers is a project who'll likely be out of the league within 2 years, maybe 3.

[Broncoman13]

I can't believe Boob is stupid enough to put that worthless POS excuse for a QB in the same sentence as Cutler. There is NO comparing the two.

[Clockwork Orange]

I noticed you've avoided the subject of Brodie Frayle. He injured already?

[Broncoman13]

I noticed you've avoided the subject of Brodie Frayle. He injured already?


Naturally!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Croyle has a sore shoulder. He's not seriously injured.

I'm not sure I want him playing behind that sieve of an O-line, either.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Green was hurried several times, it is already starting.
.

Our backup left guard got beaten badly. Turley played well.

[Clockwork Orange]

Croyle is a sore shoulder. He's not seriously injured.

I'm not sure I want him playing behind that sieve of an O-line, either.

Jesus, hurt already and he hasn't even been hit yet.

Who could have seen that coming?

[Jetmeck]

I don't really care about all that bootleg crap. It's preseason. We didn't gameplan for crap.

KC's first team defense looked good to me. They forced two three-and-outs and then got dicked on that 4th and 1.

Kyle Turley played well at left tackle...no problem. Willie who?


Your crazy as usual,

preseason, regular season your guys couldn't figure out a boot if it was up their arses !

Green was under pressure regularly when he passed.....
Better have a good backup, Green's days of sitting back there forever are over.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Eh, he could have played tonight had he needed to.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Green was under pressure regularly when he passed.....


Yes, he was. Why?

BECAUSE OUR BACKUP LEFT GUARD WAS GETTING ABUSED.

The rest of the line played very well. It's not like our first-team offense had problems moving the ball. Green was 5 of 6 passing.

[Clockwork Orange]

Eh, he could have played tonight had he needed to.

Call it what you want, but that kid is a chandelier.

[youcandoit1687]

cutler played behind one of the worst olines in big 6 conference football and he played against the blitz happy SEC, even the chiefs 2nd team OLine would look like the great wall of china to jesus jay

[Northman]

the Chiefs are DOOMED!

[youcandoit1687]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=145463

[Jetmeck]

Yes, he was. Why?

BECAUSE OUR BACKUP LEFT GUARD WAS GETTING ABUSED.

The rest of the line played very well. It's not like our first-team offense had problems moving the ball. Green was 5 of 6 passing.


Dumpoff to short routes, the parties over. He was harrassed every time he dropped back and no ,BOOB..regardless of what your homer glasses saw it was coming from both sides and once straight up the gut. GET it through your head that Green will return to his old average self in short order due to consistent pressure.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Funny stuff, Jetmeck.

[crazyhorse]

Dumpoff to short routes, the parties over. He was harrassed every time he dropped back and no ,BOOB..regardless of what your homer glasses saw it was coming from both sides and once straight up the gut. GET it through your head that Green will return to his old average self in short order due to consistent pressure.

No pressure on Green.

[Jetmeck]

No pressure on Green.

Were you watching ANOTHER GAME ?

[Florida_Bronco]

Put Jay Cutler behind KC's third-string offensive line and watch him get his ass kicked.

You do know he played at Vanderbilt right?

[crazyhorse]

Were you watching ANOTHER GAME ?

Green was 5 for 6 with no issues on offense. Let's just say if thats Green under pressure then he will be fine.

[Broncoman13]

Boob thinks Goonther didn't have a plan for the Bootleg. "we didn't game plan for the bootleg", funny shiat considering everybody in the NFL world new it was coming. If he didn't game plan for the bootleg then your defense is in even bigger trouble! I suppose you're going t tell us that the offense didn't game plan for the 4-3 defense next huh. MORON!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

OSKIE...it's preseason. Nobody gameplans for anything.

[Broncoman13]

I don't really care about all that bootleg crap. It's preseason. We didn't gameplan for crap.




http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3357243&postcount=38

So why is Herm saying that they knew it was coming? If your HC, DC, DE's, LB's, and the rest of the NFL knew it was coming... why wouldn't they game plan for it?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Look...we didn't gameplan for crap. Our offense wasn't even doing any pre-snap motion.

Get a clue.

[Broncoman13]

OSKIE...it's preseason. Nobody gameplans for anything.


Hmm, yet I remember seeing a story just a couple days ago about how the Broncos were watching game film from Martz' Rams days so that they could prepare for what they would see on the field. See Bob, real coaches in the NFL take the time to put their players in the proper position to succeed. Shiaty coaches just turn their players loose without preparing them and then bag on them after the game for SUCKING ASS! You're a fool and everybody on CP is trying to point that out to you as well!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

OSKIE, pretty much any fan worth his salt knows that the majority of the time, teams do not gameplan extensively for preseason games. Heck, most teams don't even blitz (although that is changing).

Put aside your KC bias and realize that preseason is meaningless. I certainly wasn't coming on here last night and celebrating the fact that the Broncos run defense looked like crap. You want to know why? Because I don't care. A preseason game isn't going to change my opinion of Denver's defense. And it's certainly not going to change my opinion of Kansas City's defense.

[Broncoman13]

The Broncos run D did look like shiat. But, we were/are missing two important players on the DLine. Tonight, Allen and Hicks got used up by the Bootleg and it wasn't the first time either of them had seen it.

[Arkie]

Put Jay Cutler behind KC's third-string offensive line and watch him get his ass kicked.

You make them sound as if they are worse than Vanderbilt's O-line. Maybe they are. LOL

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Houston was only bootlegging to one side...and that was the side where our backup defensive end was starting.

Let me ask you something, OSKIE: Do you believe the Texans game indicates that Kansas City's 7th-ranked run defense from a year ago is somehow...not as good as was last year?

[Florida_Bronco]

See Bob, real coaches in the NFL take the time to put their players in the proper position to succeed.

And that would be the Chiefs problem. :P

[Broncoman13]

Houston was only bootlegging to one side...and that was the side where our backup defensive end was starting.

Let me ask you something, OSKIE: Do you believe the Texans game indicates that Kansas City's 7th-ranked run defense from a year ago is somehow...not as good as was last year?


No, but I think it shows that #7 defense from yester year STILL can't stop our running game. Same can obviously be said for the Bootleg!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

No, but I think it shows that #7 defense from yester year STILL can't stop our running game. Same can obviously be said for the Bootleg!

There are very few teams that CAN stop Denver's running game. I'm not really concerned about that.

The Chiefs weren't even trying to stop the quarterbacks from running. They were, however, covering the receivers trying to get open off the play action. I noticed no one here wants to talk about that.

[Broncoman13]

There are very few teams that CAN stop Denver's running game. I'm not really concerned about that.

The Chiefs weren't even trying to stop the quarterbacks from running. They were, however, covering the receivers trying to get open off the play action. I noticed no one here wants to talk about that.


How many snaps did you see Dre Johnson, Mathis, and Moulds play? You want a cookie b/c you were able to shut them down for 10 snaps?
Actually, now that I think about it, it wasn't their coverage to begin with. If not for Mitchell having a great zone drop and knocking the ball away, Dre would have torched Law or Surtain for about a 50 yard TD!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's why it takes 11 guys to play defense.

Also, just last week some morons here were saying that Mitchell wasn't suited to play in a cover two.

By the way, I DON'T want a cookie. I'm not trumpeting anything about our pass defense until they PROVE IT in the regular season.

[Kaylore]

That's why it takes 11 guys to play defense.

Also, just last week some morons here were saying that Mitchell wasn't suited to play in a cover two.

By the way, I DON'T want a cookie. I'm not trumpeting anything about our pass defense until they PROVE IT in the regular season.
That's a change. A month ago you said that you felt the Chiefs D would be better than Denver's this year.

[Broncoman13]

Wasn't it you that was pimping Law and Surtain as well as a couple rookie safeties? Saying how they were the best run stopping DB's in the league??? How'd that work out for ya?

[Arkie]

They were, however, covering the receivers trying to get open off the play action. I noticed no one here wants to talk about that.


It's preseason. It's meaningless. Why are you still talking?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's a change. A month ago you said that you felt the Chiefs D would be better than Denver's this year.

Yeah, I still do. It's not like you guys have some amazing pass defense. ROFL!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

It's preseason. It's meaningless. Why are you still talking?

Some idiot Bronco fans are insisting that it has meaning. I'm trying to educate them.

[Spider]

Some idiot Bronco fans are insisting that it has meaning. I'm trying to educate them.
LOL , no they are just reminding you of your Goonther can stop the bootleg crap you spewed .......

[Iowanian]

The only comment I have on the length of time in for the 1s, is that the entire 1st string wasn't in the entire time. The Oline was patchwork and needed the reps, the Chiefs only had 1 qb behind Green capable of playing, LJ only had 7 touches(planned pregame), and they played 2 drives? Loved Sammie Parker's block on the LB. I'll be pleased with a 4.3ypc behind a patchwork line from LJ.....Dee Brown looked alright as a 3rd. Cruz also needed the reps, and outside of the miss of a lb on the goaline, thought he played very well.

I thought Turley played very well. Sampson played well with the 1s but faltered later. Svitek didn't play well, and Interstate 65 proved that he is not an NFL Offensive Tackle...he's a guard or a construction worker. The Oline depth is lacking, and Stallings sucks.


What's your thoughts on Herm making the 1st team offense play well into the 2nd quarter, Iowanian...injury factor alone made me think it was odd.



Notes.
Rod Edwards and James Reed are upgrades at DT. Dalton and Sims both sucked balls tonight.
I'm liking the Chiefs LBs right now.
The rookie Safeties, Pollard and Page both made some nice plays and good hits, but made mistakes you'd expect this early.

I'm putting ** next to my defense concerns, given that Hali, Carlos Hall, Jimmy Wilkerson were all out. I think Hicks still sucks, and wonder why the hell Steve Burton was at DE for 3 quarters...he's slower than Hicks.

When Waters is back, and with 3 more games, I think the Oline will be fine, though there isn't room for more than 1 injury. Depth is questionable.

Printers is not going to be on the Chiefs roster, unless its practice squad....and after tonight, I don't see anyone picking him up.

Its damn tough to get a read on young WRs when they're dealing with Printers at QB.

Also keep in mind that the probable #3, #4 Corners(walls and Sapp) were out of action tonight...after the starters, scrubs were on the field.

[watermock]

I'm looking for Brodie Coyle and he's not even listed.

Gamebook has Printers sacked 5 times tho.

Your a colossal moron. That sieve you call an OL let Printers be sacked 5 times for 39 yards. Ooyle didn't even see the field from the stats.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Like I said, Printers O-line was horrible.

Croyle was sitting out with a sore shoulder. I'm almost happy he didn't have to play behind those losers.

[gunns]

I don't think it takes extensive game planning to know you are going to face the former Bronco offensive coordinator and that the odds are fairly good you'll be facing the bootleg. Especially when you face it against Denver and struggle with it.

Wouldn't that make planning for it a priority? Isn't that what preseason is, to get the team into game playing shape which would include plays they may face? Seems to me that Gunther is working at full capacity and it's only August. In other words it seems Gunther, as usual, is not preparing his team for the bootleg. Good.

[DenverBrit]

It's preseason. It's meaningless. Why are you still talking?


Or why start a thread about it?

[DenverBrit]

Some idiot Bronco fans are insisting that it has meaning. I'm trying to educate them.


Gay sensitivity training?

[youcandoit1687]

Gay sensitivity training?
ask lendale white about that kinda thing

[youcandoit1687]

ok bob, i couldnt see the game but i have a couple questions:

1. we have all agreed that the chiefs just couldnt contain the bootleg last year. knowing this, why wouldnt gunther and herm atleast try to establish something of a plan which would consist of ok, you need to shoot the C Gap and contain the outside/QB. that is one of the fundamentals of being a DE and i would think that since the chiefs were playing the broncos' twin offense, it would be a great opportunity to work on stopping bootlegs, it just seems logical.

2. do you worry about having two of the oldest corners in the league with the two youngest starting(for now) safeties in the league?

3. do you worry about the depth on the OLine since you are totally berating your second and third teamers?

4. what have you seen from rudy niswanger, the C/G out of LSU? he was very versatile at LSU and played i think 4 positions on the OLine as well as having all As pre-med so i think he would be a very nice backup to have, plus he has a nice frame at about 6 6 290ish last time i checked. thanks

[Bob's your Information Minister]

1. we have all agreed that the chiefs just couldnt contain the bootleg last year. knowing this, why wouldnt gunther and herm atleast try to establish something of a plan which would consist of ok, you need to shoot the C Gap and contain the outside/QB. that is one of the fundamentals of being a DE and i would think that since the chiefs were playing the broncos' twin offense, it would be a great opportunity to work on stopping bootlegs, it just seems logical.


Yeah, they should show everyone what they plan to do in the preseason. That's brilliant. Brilliant!


2. do you worry about having two of the oldest corners in the league with the two youngest starting(for now) safeties in the league?
Um...we're not starting the rookies.


3. do you worry about the depth on the OLine since you are totally berating your second and third teamers?
Yeah, I do. But there's a difference between playing one backup and playing five. That being said, Chris Bober was horrid at left guard in place of the injured Brian Waters.


4. what have you seen from rudy niswanger, the C/G out of LSU? he was very versatile at LSU and played i think 4 positions on the OLine as well as having all As pre-med so i think he would be a very nice backup to have, plus he has a nice frame at about 6 6 290ish last time i checked. thanks

I've barely even heard his name. As far as I know, Bober has been filling the backup center/guard role. I don't think rudy is going to make the roster.

[youcandoit1687]

well i dont think itd be much of a secret to just have the DEs go up the field before going straight down the line, its not like broadcasting your plays or something, its just basic football knowledge and like someone pointed out on CP, the only way to stop it, is to practice it and the best way to practice it would be to practice it against denver south.

who is starting at safety? sorry, the game wasnt televised here.

if there is a problem with bober, what if waters goes down, or shields? wont that leave you with this bober guy who you are saying sucks

[youcandoit1687]

we need to practice against that bootleg and almost nothing else until the denver game

let the runnig back beat us
let jake beat us
let special teams beat us
even throw 6 int to Chump

but jebus
STOP THAT ****IN' BOOOTLEG

lol i like this guys analysis

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yeah, pretty much. Bober's played decent before, though.

Knight and Wesley started at safety...same guys as last year.

[Kaylore]

Yeah, I still do. It's not like you guys have some amazing pass defense. ROFL!
I bet you our corners out-play your corners this season.

[GreatBronco16]

There goes the bootleg again.Ha!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I bet you our corners out-play your corners this season.

I'll take that bet. The Chiefs' starters will have more passes defensed and more interceptions.

[youcandoit1687]

ok thank you. do you think the young safeties will start this year without injuries being the cause?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

No. They might be starting at the end of the year if the starters aren't performing up to standards.

[Kaylore]

I'll take that bet. The Chiefs' starters will have more passes defensed and more interceptions.
Ok, better in passes defended, interceptions and passing yards allowed.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I don't think we should use passing yards allowed. That's dependent on 11 guys. I'll go with the other two stats, though.

[Kaylore]

I don't think we should use passing yards allowed. That's dependent on 11 guys. I'll go with the other two stats, though. Bob, if the D-line gets good preasure and hits the QB's while they throw and send the passes errantly off into defenders hands it makes the corner look good. The other nine guys are going to be a factor regardless, so we might as well look at yards too.

[watermock]

No. They might be starting at the end of the year if the starters aren't performing up to standards.

I could't type for two minutes. I'm still laughing.

What do think is "Up to standards" Bob?

Kubiak ripped them a new asshole last night. If that's up to standard your in for a long year.

[watermock]

I'm still laughing. Watching a piss poor team hand KC's head on a plater was amusing. We lost the opener, but had plenty of opportunity. We didn't even play half the team.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bob, if the D-line gets good preasure and hits the QB's while they throw and send the passes errantly off into defenders hands it makes the corner look good. The other nine guys are going to be a factor regardless, so we might as well look at yards too.

OK, what the hell. But for either of us to win, all three criteria must be satisfied by our respective starters.

[youcandoit1687]

interesting bet, so what is the wager?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'll do whatever he wants. If he defers, I have an idea. :clown:

[Tredici]

When did this game get put on the schedule? Did Kubiak seriously mastermind his opening debut at Reliant?

Here's to many more Kubes!

[Kaylore]

I'll do whatever he wants. If he defers, I have an idea. :clown:
I was going to settle for bragging rights actually. What did you have in mind?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Avatar and title.

[Kaylore]

Avatar and title.
Yeah right. You've welched on that like five times, Bob. Oh I know "but 24ChampBailey made me mad!" Your word is as good as dog-doo as far as I'm concerned..

[Bob's your Information Minister]

If I welch, the mods the can ban me.

[Kaylore]

If I welch, the mods the can ban me.
http://www.anni80.info/movies/images/storia1.jpg
"No good. I've known too many mods."

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm not going to welch. I don't want you riding my ass for eternity.

[Kaylore]

I'm not going to welch. I don't want you riding my ass for eternity. You know Bob, a lot of your posts have homo-erotic undertones.

But no, Avy bets bore me and Taco has already said that he doesn't involve himself in bets.

I say that the winner makes a thread revealing their football superiority and the loser must grovel in it acknowledging the other's greatness and overall superiority.

If you really want something permanant more lasting we could consider a sig/Avy prize - or both. I'm more interested in seeing how this pans out. I'm going to bed now. So consider these things.

[SureShot]

I don't really care about all that bootleg crap. It's preseason. We didn't gameplan for crap.

KC's first team defense looked good to me. They forced two three-and-outs and then got dicked on that 4th and 1.

Kyle Turley played well at left tackle...no problem. Willie who?


Bob you are such a douche. How can say that you are not concerned about the bootleg, because you didn't game plan. Then turn around and say Turley played well. Did Houston throw a stunt, overload blitz, or anything special toward Turdley?

[Florida_Bronco]

Bob you are such a douche. How can say that you are not concerned about the bootleg, because you didn't game plan. Then turn around and say Turley played well. Did Houston throw a stunt, overload blitz, or anything special toward Turdley?

How dare you try and talk football to Bob without throwing stats out there!

:spit:

[Ron Mexico]

Amazing what good coaching can do. Kubiak is the man and David Carr has to be the happiest man in the NFL right now. Just watching the game replay on the NFL Network this morning and they said Carr was the most sacked QB 3 out of the last 4 years. 60+ rushing yards on a scoring drive and Carr making the boot look easy. He won't be sacked nearly as often this year. Looks like the Texans will easily get the most-improved team award for 2006. Way to go Kubiak! Texans are now officially my 2nd favorite team (followed closely by anyone spanking the Chiefs, Chargers, Raiders, Pats and Steelers).

[elsid13]

OK I'm watching the re-airing of the game. I know you don't gameplan for opponent in preseason, but if opponent runs the bootleg and roll out 100 times, don't you think your defense would figure out what going on and stop it???

[Rock Chalk]

OK I'm watching the re-airing of the game. I know you don't gameplan for opponent in preseason, but if opponent runs the bootleg and roll out 100 times, don't you think your defense would figure out what going on and stop it???
First, your defensive personell has to have a memory. Second, they have to be smart. Third, they have to be able to recognize that it is a bootleg.

So, the answer to your question is: no. KC's defensive personell doesn't have any of the three pre-requisites for stopping the bootleg.

[TheDave]

First, your defensive personell has to have a memory. Second, they have to be smart. Third, they have to be able to recognize that it is a bootleg.

So, the answer to your question is: no. KC's defensive personell doesn't have any of the three pre-requisites for stopping the bootleg.


All proven by the fact that they see it 10+ times a game 2x a year for over a decade and still don't know how to stop it....Goooonnnnntheeer

[24champ]

Cannot wait for the home opener!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bob you are such a douche. How can say that you are not concerned about the bootleg, because you didn't game plan. Then turn around and say Turley played well. Did Houston throw a stunt, overload blitz, or anything special toward Turdley?

No...and that is why I always say...preseason is meaningless. I'm not going to over-react because we got run on, and I'm not going to over-react because Turley appeared to play well.

What I DO know is that Hicks sucks against the bootleg...and they were running it exclusively to his side. Tamba Hali can't get back soon enough.

[Spider]

No...and that is why I always say...preseason is meaningless. I'm not going to over-react because we got run on, and I'm not going to over-react because Turley appeared to play well.

What I DO know is that Hicks sucks against the bootleg...and they were running it exclusively to his side. Tamba Hali can't get back soon enough.
I dug up an old thread about the Chiefs D and Goonther ....... Hilarious!

[SureShot]

No...and that is why I always say...preseason is meaningless. I'm not going to over-react because we got run on, and I'm not going to over-react because Turley appeared to play well.

What I DO know is that Hicks sucks against the bootleg...and they were running it exclusively to his side. Tamba Hali can't get back soon enough.

One thing I do know is you will regret your "Willie who" comment.

[Jetmeck]

Green was 5 for 6 with no issues on offense. Let's just say if thats Green under pressure then he will be fine.


HEH Crazy 5-6 for about 40 yards, Freakin outstanding.

Why was it for such short yardage you might wonder ?

PRESSURE...........

[Jetmeck]

Yeah right. You've welched on that like five times, Bob. Oh I know "but 24ChampBailey made me mad!" Your word is as good as dog-doo as far as I'm concerned..


More than enough reason to ban this nuisance !

[DenverBrit]

No...and that is why I always say...preseason is meaningless. I'm not going to over-react because we got run on, and I'm not going to over-react because Turley appeared to play well.

What I DO know is that Hicks sucks against the bootleg...and they were running it exclusively to his side. Tamba Hali can't get back soon enough.


Hali has a rep for poor play recognition.......just like the KC coaches.
Should be a deadly combo. 'Wrong-Way-Hali' and 'Boots Cunningham'. Hilarious!

[Arkie]

'Boots Cunningham'

I like it! :thumbsup:

[gunns]

All proven by the fact that they see it 10+ times a game 2x a year for over a decade and still don't know how to stop it....Goooonnnnntheeer

According to Bob it takes too much extensive planning for the preseason. I wonder what the excuse is for the regular season. With Gunther it's probably the same thing.

[Steve Sewell]

Hali has a rep for poor play recognition.......just like the KC coaches.
Should be a deadly combo. 'Wrong-Way-Hali' and 'Boots Cunningham'. Hilarious!

I can just see it now, the Chiefs coaches praising Hali for his "motor" as he bites and overpursues on every bootleg. It will be fantastic!

[Mile High Shack]

all I can say about this game is

BOOTLEG!!!!!!!!!!

[broncosteven]

I can just see it now, the Chiefs coaches praising Hali for his "motor" as he bites and overpursues on every bootleg. It will be fantastic!


Hali has a motor & LJ runs Mad! that is the KFC mantra