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Kid A

08-11-2006, 06:41 PM

0-20 (includes preseason)

you don't even want to know the point deferentials that await this team. our offense will be lucky to see the field as teams run all over our sorry D. Shanahan has really screwed up the team this year.[/sarcasm]

plummershelper

08-11-2006, 06:47 PM

In related news, the sky is falling...

Jana®

08-11-2006, 06:56 PM

No doubt! De- frickin- troit has ALL FLIPPIN DAY to run, throw, pick their butts, file their nails, or whatever. Where the heck is the pressure?????

Kid A

08-11-2006, 07:03 PM

But seriously, it does sound like our D-Line depth, as most people guessed, leaves a lot to be desired. Not really cause for panic, but it is looking more likely that Lelie will be dealt for a DT.

Garcia Bronco

08-11-2006, 07:13 PM

I'm sure they'll get it together...but dang

BroncoSoja

08-11-2006, 07:29 PM

All the more reason for us to Ditch Lelie for a D-line man.

Merlin

08-11-2006, 07:41 PM

0-20 (includes preseason)
You forgot the avg point differential. I'm betting on the plus side of 10

alphamale72

08-11-2006, 07:42 PM

Agreed....lelie for a decent DT or End

Rohirrim

08-11-2006, 08:24 PM

fdf

08-11-2006, 08:42 PM

I'm sure they'll get it together...but dang

There was some big-time sucking going on out there on the DL tonite. They are adjusting to new roles so there's going to be some pain in transition.

Our offense is going to be considerably improved this year. Defense, about the same--maybe a little weaker.

Jason in LA

08-11-2006, 08:45 PM

In related news, the sky is falling...

TJ has never been able to fix that thing. ;D

Kaylore

08-11-2006, 09:18 PM

You know our run defense looked crappy last preseason too.

Killericon

08-11-2006, 09:20 PM

Why haven't Bob or Crazyhorse shown up yet?

Kaylore

08-11-2006, 09:24 PM

Why haven't Bob or Crazyhorse shown up yet? Crazyhorse times his trolling to when the board is in high spirits so he'll wait for a win to bitterly rant about about something useless. Bob has 13,999 posts is probably busy photoshoping some lame collage that showcases how "great" the chefs will be this year for his 14K post.

Kid A

08-11-2006, 09:33 PM

Why haven't Bob or Crazyhorse shown up yet?
They are cowering in fear after seeing Cutler.

Garcia Bronco

08-11-2006, 09:41 PM

now that I am watching this debacle of a defensive effort....it's a real head scratcher...part of it is the play calls...bad tackling and a lack of attention to detail.

Paladin

08-11-2006, 09:47 PM

It seemed that the D was in the wrong frame of mind, and were just not prepared to play for whatever reason. I saw some hitting, but I think we also saw a few missed and/or busted assignments. I think that eight man rush was stupid as h3ll, and the Broncos paid for it. To be frank, this could be Coyer's make or break year......

alanm

08-11-2006, 09:57 PM

There was some big-time sucking going on out there on the DL tonite. They are adjusting to new roles so there's going to be some pain in transition.

Our offense is going to be considerably improved this year. Defense, about the same--maybe a little weaker.
OH MY GAWD!!! Your becoming the Chiefs!!zowie!
Seriously guys, it's the first preseason game. I wouldn't base the seasons outcome on it.
I hear Cutler did pretty good.:thumbsup:
Chiefs are up tomorrow.

alanm

08-11-2006, 10:03 PM

Crazyhorse times his trolling to when the board is in high spirits so he'll wait for a win to bitterly rant about about something useless. Bob has 13,999 posts is probably busy photoshoping some lame collage that showcases how "great" the chefs will be this year for his 14K post.
Or rubbing one out to Princess Leia in her bikini. :rofl:
Nah, I last saw him over on the Planet.

Malcontent

08-11-2006, 10:07 PM

Yeah..but "Foxworthy" has played a good game. What a tool that doesn't study the names of the players! Lions announcers. Freaking hilarious.

Garcia Bronco

08-11-2006, 10:17 PM

Yeah..but "Foxworthy" has played a good game. What a tool that doesn't study the names of the players! Lions announcers. Freaking hilarious.

dude...it is absolutely annoying me beyond belief. I want to choke the bastard out.

Garcia Bronco

08-11-2006, 10:24 PM

special teams sucked too

Malcontent

08-11-2006, 10:30 PM

Bright spot is absolutely Cutler! For a 1st time start even against scrubs the guy looks poised, and very accurate with a fuggin howitzer. Should be interesting to see how Jake reacts to his 1st real competition in his entire pro-college-HS career!

Wes Mantooth

08-11-2006, 10:30 PM

We're doomed
I absolutely agree we are doomed. I too would believe "its only preseason" crap if it wasn't exactly like it was all last year. They better figure something out.

Malcontent

08-11-2006, 10:32 PM

I absolutely agree we are doomed. I too would believe "its only preseason" crap if it wasn't exactly like it was all last year. They better figure something out.

Relax please??

theAPAOps5

08-11-2006, 10:34 PM

Seriously! our starters were in street clothes. Can't even get a real grasp on what we have.

2KBack

08-11-2006, 10:39 PM

You should have seen that crappy Bears defense against the 49ers. Relax people, this was the first action the team has seen.

Kaylore

08-11-2006, 11:13 PM

Are people actually worried about our season because of this game?!?!? :spit: Hilarious!

Ahhhhh, the funny side of the Mane.

Clockwork Orange

08-11-2006, 11:15 PM

Are people actually worried about our season because of this game?!?!? :spit: Hilarious!

Ahhhhh, the funny side of the Mane.

Every year. ROFL!

Malcontent

08-11-2006, 11:16 PM

Are people actually worried about our season because of this game?!?!? :spit: Hilarious!

Ahhhhh, the funny side of the Mane.

Funny..yet sad.:spit:

Kaylore

08-11-2006, 11:20 PM

Every year. ROFL! Seriously. The Colts were 0-4 in the preseason last year. look at how crappy they played the rest of the year.

The Bears gave up 28 points to San Fran today. Guess the Niners are going to have the greatest offense known to man this year and the Bears D is garbage this season. It's a shame. Maybe they can get draft a middle linebacker next year. :pity:

No1BroncoFan

08-12-2006, 02:39 AM

Just miserable by the first teamers in the 1st half tonight. Missing Warren and Brown really does put a hurtin on our defense.
Shhhhhhhh! Haven't you heard? It's all Jakes fault. ;D

Ben

crazyhorse

08-12-2006, 03:26 AM

Crazyhorse times his trolling to when the board is in high spirits so he'll wait for a win to bitterly rant about about something useless. Bob has 13,999 posts is probably busy photoshoping some lame collage that showcases how "great" the chefs will be this year for his 14K post.

If this was the case I would be all over your camp reports. You squeal like a friggen girl, man. Sack up.

elsid13

08-12-2006, 04:23 AM

Odysseus

08-12-2006, 05:46 AM

If this was the case I would be all over your camp reports. You squeal like a friggen girl, man. Sack up.

What do you know about sacking up? You don't know how to stay on topic much less sack up. The topic is Broncos defense. You didn't see the game so what can you contribute but more of Joe Jock hard man fortune cookie crap? What do you have? A hard guy phrase booklet or something?

Golly Gee Mister. you sure are scaring me boy howdy.

Kaylore contributes a lot to the Orangemane and fact is you really don't. I'd double whatever contributions you've ever placed here just to see what you really put in the kitty. You want to start the Cutler threads. Good for you. Everyone has to have hobbies but going after other Mane posters. That is what puts you in troll booth with me. You want to take a shot at me fine. I said what I wanted to say.

crazyhorse

08-12-2006, 05:55 AM

What do you know about sacking up? You don't know how to stay on topic much less sack up. The topic is Broncos defense. You didn't see the game so what can you contribute but more of Joe Jock hard man fortune cookie crap? What do you have? A hard guy phrase booklet or something?

Golly Gee Mister. you sure are scaring me boy howdy.

Kaylore contributes a lot to the Orangemane and fact is you really don't. I'd double whatever contributions you've ever placed here just to see what you really put in the kitty. You want to start the Cutler threads. Good for you. Everyone has to have hobbies but going after other Mane posters. That is what puts you in troll booth with me. You want to take a shot at me fine. I said what I wanted to say.

Have you been drinking?

Kay made a direct comment about me. I have the right to comment/disagree with it. I didn't seek him out. Find another cause.

Northman

08-12-2006, 06:08 AM

On serious note, it looked like the Defense hadn't practiced enough tackling drills and wasn't in sync (Bobo favorite band)

It will be fine. It the third preseason game that we need to worry about. It would be nice to have another quality veteran starter in middle next to Warren

Oh yea, they had some issues there but i liked the push that Kenard Lang got in the backfield. That was promising but now they need to learn to wrap up.

BroncoBuff

08-12-2006, 06:46 AM

We really really need D-Line help .... new guys.

This problem was not just missing Warren and Brown, because Veal and Lang played well.... we're really screwed on the D-line.

Greg Ellis would be a godsend, but a solid DT would be even better.

How about Dan Wilkinson? You gotta believe he'd come outta retirement to play in a platoon-based defense on a team with a real chance for a ring ... he's played practically every snap for the last three years - sell him on playing in a rotation.

WoodMan

08-12-2006, 06:50 AM

Garcia Bronco

08-12-2006, 06:51 AM

foxworthy....I'm reminded on the "no-talent assclown started winning Grammy's" speech from office space.

Garcia Bronco

08-12-2006, 06:52 AM

"Hello Michael Bolton"

wabbit

08-12-2006, 07:07 AM

I saw alot of good things on defense. Roc, Foxworthy and others played pretty well. Face it, our Defense isn't going to line up against anyone in a vanilla package and stop them. That is why the Broncos use schemes to free up linebackers, blitz corners and safetys etc. I watched Dumerville quite a bit last night and his size will not be a detriment. He played well, made several tackles that the announcers didn't give him credit for. That man really plays all out. Another good pick up by the Broncos.

Terrific summary of the Denver 'D' in the pre-season vis-a-vis the regular season.

Even so, I think everyone saw reason for concern. I mean, c'mon, the absence of Courtney Brown & Gerard Warren can't possibly make that much difference.

The middle of the line was a sieve.

Mediator12

08-12-2006, 07:15 AM

Well, it was not as bad as everyone is bitching about ;D

I really can not believe people are calling Coyer out for Preseason playcalling against a team with Zero tape to evaluate. Priceless. Hello, it was a preseason game with basic stuff and no real GAMEPLANNING. Sheesh!

That being said, the defense did play uninspired and acted like the QB was still wearing a Red Jersey (which the broncos do not really use like other teams) and afraid of Hitting him. Outside of that, the run defense was porous and inconsistent but there was a pass rush even with Three rushing on every play last night. That was encouraging.

There is also no question that the DL is the Weakest, least talented, underperforming unit on the team though. Going up against the Lions 1st OL until the third Quarter and they were getting the **** kicked out of them in the running game. BS.

wabbit

08-12-2006, 07:31 AM

I'd agree Med except that the defense should be way ahead of the offense at this stage of training camp, and that doesn't appear to be the case.

Also, the D-line depth issue is always crucial when you have a starting DE that needs an Ambo-Cab for his personal use.

Tombstone RJ

08-12-2006, 07:45 AM

Well, it was not as bad as everyone is b****ing about ;D

I really can not believe people are calling Coyer out for Preseason playcalling against a team with Zero tape to evaluate. Priceless. Hello, it was a preseason game with basic stuff and no real GAMEPLANNING. Sheesh!

That being said, the defense did play uninspired and acted like the QB was still wearing a Red Jersey (which the broncos do not really use like other teams) and afraid of Hitting him. Outside of that, the run defense was porous and inconsistent but there was a pass rush even with Three rushing on every play last night. That was encouraging.

There is also no question that the DL is the Weakest, least talented, underperforming unit on the team though. Going up against the Lions 1st OL until the third Quarter and they were getting the **** kicked out of them in the running game. BS.

I guess I didn't watch the same game you did. The dline isn't that bad, at all. Kitna got flat out lucky he wasn't sacked on the lions first drive. Also there were some missed tackles on that first drive.

Some people have the glass is half empty perspective here. I'm on the other side saying the glas is half full. Rotate in Warren and Brown, and that dline stops the Lions and Kitna.

12th man

08-12-2006, 08:46 AM

I guess I didn't watch the same game you did. The dline isn't that bad, at all. Kitna got flat out lucky he wasn't sacked on the lions first drive. Also there were some missed tackles on that first drive.

Some people have the glass is half empty perspective here. I'm on the other side saying the glas is half full. Rotate in Warren and Brown, and that dline stops the Lions and Kitna.
yeah. Im the glass is half full guy too. I liked what I saw out of lang. that was a good pickup. add warran and we automaticaly get better on the dline yesterday. And if Brown can stay healty for one season, I think he can get good pressure and get good numbers. I agree that the Dline is our weak spot, but im not going to give up on them after one preseason game, especially if warran and brown was out. there were still positive things about them.

elsid13

08-12-2006, 09:10 AM

the defense issues were poor tackling and aggressiveness both can be fixed

ROYC75

08-12-2006, 09:25 AM

Hey _efense WTF?

You guys have watched the Chiefs too long ! BTW, come on down, the bottom is crowded but we will make room for one another, OK.:wiggle:

Could it be your defense wasn't addressed in the offseason and KC pass's you on the way up ?

On a side note : It was just a ( one, the 1st one ) preseason game.

Spider

08-12-2006, 09:26 AM

We're doomed
:approve:

Kaylore

08-12-2006, 09:27 AM

the defense issues were poor tackling and aggressiveness both can be fixed
There it is.

elsid13

08-12-2006, 09:33 AM

There it is.

I was being sarcastic in my "we are doomed" post. This place is like a bunch of little girls hearing that their favorite boy band broke up and it's the end of the world

wabbit

08-12-2006, 09:34 AM

You guys have watched the Chiefs too long ! BTW, come on down, the bottom is crowded but we will make room for one another, OK.:wiggle:

Could it be your defense wasn't addressed in the offseason and KC pass's you on the way up ?...

Hilarious!

Hope springs eternal for Chiefy fan

..until a game is played.

Spider

08-12-2006, 09:35 AM

I was being sarcastic in my "we are doomed" post. This place is like a bunch of little girls hearing that their favorite boy band broke up and it's the end of the world
Nsync will be back I tell ya ....... Just like the Eagles 10 years of Farewell concerts ;D

elsid13

08-12-2006, 09:36 AM

Hilarious!

Hope springs eternal for Chiefy fan

..until a game is played.

Hope comes from all the aerosol cans they are sniffing

BroncoBen

08-12-2006, 09:52 AM

I liked it when the local sports boob put the mike in Big Al's face on the sidelines and basically says, "Dude, you're third down defense sucks, just like it did against Pitt." Al gave him the cold eye look. I thought he was going to chew his face off. He asked Lynch the same question and John just went into his diplomatic "talking-to-a-dip****" mode.
I noticed that too.. I thought Big Al was going to push the mike into the reporters face and walk off.

Yes the starting defense didn't look too great, but you figure you are missing Warren, Brown, and Bailey.

But on the positive, Lang look good, Preditor almost had two sacks himself just missed as he was getting held at the last minute.
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Popps

08-12-2006, 10:37 AM

Yea, the upside was definitely Chukwurah. He seemed pretty effective out there on the edge. MAN, we could use a little speed out there.

Lang looked decent. It really is hard to judge the D without Warren and Bailey out there. Missing Brown shouldn't really factor in much. He basically did nothing last year, and was healthy most of the season.

Did Dumervil play? I haven't gotten through the whole tape yet.

elsid13

08-12-2006, 10:40 AM

Dumervil played and was putting pressure all night long. He showed up

elsid13

08-12-2006, 10:44 AM

Nsync will be back I tell ya ....... Just like the Eagles 10 years of Farewell concerts ;D

Spider the only male N'sync fan west of KC

Clockwork Orange

08-12-2006, 12:10 PM

Dumervil played well. He lined up at both DE & DT and got good pressure several times. He also showed good recognition in making a stop on a draw play. I was pleased with his showing.

Chuk should have had two sacks in the game, but he didn't wrap the QB up. While it's annoying that he didn't finish, it's encouraging that he was able to get good pressure rushing off the edge (once was with the first team).

Spider

08-12-2006, 12:14 PM

Spider the only male N'sync fan west of KC
Ha! who could forget Nsyncs smash hit ...... Were not gay we just act that way .......

Spider

08-12-2006, 12:15 PM

or was that Vanillia ice ?

Mediator12

08-12-2006, 01:11 PM

I guess I didn't watch the same game you did. The dline isn't that bad, at all. Kitna got flat out lucky he wasn't sacked on the lions first drive. Also there were some missed tackles on that first drive.

Some people have the glass is half empty perspective here. I'm on the other side saying the glas is half full. Rotate in Warren and Brown, and that dline stops the Lions and Kitna.

I tried to watch the DL in the first half especially since it was basically our best DL with two Starters injured. They got Zero push on running plays outside of two players Lang and Dumervil. Those two were very good last night, but I had to LMAO when I saw DET double Dumervil twice in the same series!

I am not really glass half empty here with the pass rush, but I am concerned the DL Rush Defense got almost Zero Penetration outside of those two. The LB's were very poor in tackling for the most part too, but they are not Prone to that From past experience.