Broncos more willing to trade Dayne?

[DeusExManning]

According to KFFL

Broncos | Dayne easier to acquire than T. Bell?
Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:36:16 -0700

Tom Rock, of Newsday, reports latest indications out of Denver are that Denver Broncos RB Ron Dayne will be easier to acquire in a trade than RB Tatum Bell.

[SoCalBronco]

Shouldnt trade either of them, esp. Tater.

We need 3 backs on this roster. Ron hasnt had a great camp, but when called upon last year, he did his job. Tatum isnt a big carry guy and M. Bell is still just a rookie, it is helpful to have someone with some experience in the system.

[Clockwork Orange]

Not to mention the fact that Dayne's trade value is nil.

[Ballhawk]

Not to mention the fact that Dayne's trade value is nil.

I thought Philly offered a 3rd for him last year? or was just a rumor?

[Taco John]

Not to mention the fact that Dayne's trade value is nil.



Yeah, but it's higher than Cedric Cobbs...

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah, but it's higher than Cedric Cobbs...

Dayne might net a bucket of sunflower seeds in a trade, Cobbs would only get us the bucket.

[RhymesayersDU]

Trade Ashley for Kenyon!


Just Sayin'...

[Kaylore]

Dayne, for all his average qualities, does have one thing going for him and that's that he doesn't make many mental errors.

[Taco John]

Dayne might net a bucket of sunflower seeds in a trade, Cobbs would only get us the bucket.


How big a bucket are we talkin' here? :clown:


I'll tell you what, I can't wait to see what Bell has to offer us on Friday night. Shanahan is making a pretty bold statement about the rest of the league's ability to uncover and utilize talent. If Bell pans out, Shanahan might finally get that coveted Coach of the Year award that the league has failed to come through on.

[footstepsfrom#27]

He was a gamer last year...keep him.

[DeusExManning]

Shouldnt trade either of them, esp. Tater.

We need 3 backs on this roster. Ron hasnt had a great camp, but when called upon last year, he did his job. Tatum isnt a big carry guy and M. Bell is still just a rookie, it is helpful to have someone with some experience in the system.

I agree, Dayne is too valuable to let go, we will need everybody.

[WABronco]

Dear Tom Rock,

No ****.

Sincerely,

WABronco
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In all seriousness, what about Cecil Sapp? He could probably fill that fb/rb role and be the no. 3 rb. Really though, what we would get in return for Dayne probably wouldn't be as valuable on this roster as he would be...as weird as that sounds.

[SouthStndJunkie]

Dayne also had great success against 3-4 teams last year, while MA and Tatum struggled.

I had the stats broken down somewhere, I will see if I can find them.

[SouthStndJunkie]

3-4 defenses that Dayne ran against in 2005.

SD: Anderson 15-49 (3.26 YPC) Dayne 8-44 (5.5 ypc)

Dallas: Anderson 11-31 (2.8 ypc) Dayne 7-98 (14.0 ypc)

SD: Bell 17-52 (3.06 ypc) Dayne 13-64 (4.92 ypc)

Dayne against 4-3 defenses on season (25-64-2.56 ypc) against 3-4 defenses (28-206-7.4 ypc)

[baja]

3-4 defenses that Dayne ran against in 2005.

SD: Anderson 15-49 (3.26 YPC) Dayne 8-44 (5.5 ypc)

Dallas: Anderson 11-31 (2.8 ypc) Dayne 7-98 (14.0 ypc)

SD: Bell 17-52 (3.06 ypc) Dayne 13-64 (4.92 ypc)

Dayne against 4-3 defenses on season (25-64-2.56 ypc) against 3-4 defenses (28-206-7.4 ypc)

Interesting Junkman

Good stuff!

[eddie mac]

3-4 defenses that Dayne ran against in 2005.

SD: Anderson 15-49 (3.26 YPC) Dayne 8-44 (5.5 ypc)

Dallas: Anderson 11-31 (2.8 ypc) Dayne 7-98 (14.0 ypc)

SD: Bell 17-52 (3.06 ypc) Dayne 13-64 (4.92 ypc)

Dayne against 4-3 defenses on season (25-64-2.56 ypc) against 3-4 defenses (28-206-7.4 ypc)

Good point SSJ but he didn't start against any defenses never mind 3-4's. You could look at it this way too. Anderson and Bell wore down the defenses a bit and Dayne hit the tired defenders where it hurts.

[MechanicalBull]

Dear Tom Rock,

No ****.

Sincerely,

WABronco


LOL This just in Van Pelt is easier to aquire than Cutler. What kind of news is Tom Rock trying to break here.

[CHANGSTER]

According to KFFL

Broncos | Dayne easier to acquire than T. Bell?
Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:36:16 -0700

Tom Rock, of Newsday, reports latest indications out of Denver are that Denver Broncos RB Ron Dayne will be easier to acquire in a trade than RB Tatum Bell.

Captain Obvious....away!

[NaptownChief]

Not to mention the fact that Dayne's trade value is nil.


I would sure think so...The guy was considered a bust in NY and given a chance to revive his career in Denver and has been beaten out by a undrafted rookie. That doesn't have a great ring to it. Mike Bell might go on to be a HOF'er and in hindsight losing out to him being no shame but at the moment it stands out like a monster red flag that NY was right about him.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Shouldnt trade either of them, esp. Tater.

We need 3 backs on this roster. Ron hasnt had a great camp, but when called upon last year, he did his job. Tatum isnt a big carry guy and M. Bell is still just a rookie, it is helpful to have someone with some experience in the system.

Absolutely right. Broncs need the depth with the way their RBs take a beating.

[Old Dude]

I agree w/ Big Guy & SoCal. In fact, I'm a little worried about our depth there already.

[HILife]

How big a bucket are we talkin' here? :clown:


I'll tell you what, I can't wait to see what Bell has to offer us on Friday night. Shanahan is making a pretty bold statement about the rest of the league's ability to uncover and utilize talent. If Bell pans out, Shanahan might finally get that coveted Coach of the Year award that the league has failed to come through on.

I don't think he will get it just for turning an UDR into a star. These awards are ment to go to coachs who turned a crappy team from last your into a playoff contender this. There are to many new Head Coachs for one of them not to get it.

[elsid13]

I agree w/ Big Guy & SoCal. In fact, I'm a little worried about our depth there already.


Let me put in the Mock answer here. "Screw him we have my boy Sapp. He a star that just need to learn the game"

[loborugger]

3-4 defenses that Dayne ran against in 2005.

SD: Anderson 15-49 (3.26 YPC) Dayne 8-44 (5.5 ypc)

Dallas: Anderson 11-31 (2.8 ypc) Dayne 7-98 (14.0 ypc)

SD: Bell 17-52 (3.06 ypc) Dayne 13-64 (4.92 ypc)

Dayne against 4-3 defenses on season (25-64-2.56 ypc) against 3-4 defenses (28-206-7.4 ypc)


What those stats fail to account for is that Anderson started those games against fresh 'D's while Dayne was brought in in the fourth quarter against defenses that we had already battered all game long. Give Dayne his due.... he made 2 huge runs to save two games... I am thinking of the long scamper against he Cowboys and the pitch weak against SD when he ran for a first down before running into Rod Smith. But - Anderson coulda made those runs last year if he was brought in fresh and I dont think Dayne would have had the initial success against the SD and Dallas D that Anderson did.

[GonzoLays]

Ron Dayne is definitely expendable because he can't play special teams. What good is a third back that just rots on the bench all year waiting for an opportunity to carry the rock? I believe we activate three running backs on game day, so it is not in the best interest of the team to keep a guy like Dayne when we could activate a RB who plays ST. Cedric Cobbs, IF he plays special team and plays it good, should be the third back. I highly doubt Dayne is head and shoulders better than than Cobbs at this point in his career.

Dayne hurt us last year by not being able to contribute to special teams. Let's not make the same mistake this year. Trade Ron Dayne.

[Raiders Rock]

This guy put up some great numbers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/greenchicken/notgoing.jpg

[dnvrbrncos]

Almost as good as these guys (4-12 baby!)

[The Big E]

I don't see any of these backs as expendable. Sure, it'd be great for Mike Bell to be the real deal, but it's hardly something to bank on at this point.

[Popps]

Shouldnt trade either of them, esp. Tater.

We need 3 backs on this roster. Ron hasnt had a great camp, but when called upon last year, he did his job. Tatum isnt a big carry guy and M. Bell is still just a rookie, it is helpful to have someone with some experience in the system.

What he said.

[ward63]

Trade cobbs for a 5th or 6th, if possible. Dayne is on a 2-year contract and you never know what will happen this year.

[gbbroncofan]

I don't think anybody is banking on MB. I think it more hope, because I no I am not confident in Tatum or Dayne carrying the load.

I am going back and forth on whether we need Dayne as a third. If MB goes down yes we need a strong back to replace him to move the pile, but like mentioned earlier Sapp could come in and provide that.

[elsid13]

I don't think anybody is banking on MB. I think it more hope, because I no I am not confident in Tatum or Dayne carrying the load.

I am going back and forth on whether we need Dayne as a third. If MB goes down yes we need a strong back to replace him to move the pile, but like mentioned earlier Sapp could come in and provide that.

Dayne isn't a power back and does struggle getting short yardage stuff on 3down. We'll see Sapp in that role before we see Dayne/

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Dayne isn't a power back and does struggle getting short yardage stuff on 3down. We'll see Sapp in that role before we see Dayne/

You are putting a lot of faith in CSAP. (CSAP is inside joke for Colorado residents)

[Clockwork Orange]

This guy put up some great numbers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/greenchicken/notgoing.jpg

Almost as good as this guy (who he's now bunking with).

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20050526/marinovich_50902.jpg

Remind me, what round did you draft that fine upstanding young man of such impeccable character. :laugh:

[DomCasual]

Dayne might net a bucket of sunflower seeds in a trade, Cobbs would only get us the bucket.
Mmmm. Sunflower seeds.

[DomCasual]

This guy put up some great numbers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/greenchicken/notgoing.jpg
Not big on coming up with new ideas, huh?

[*WARHORSE*]

Cecil Sapp could run the ball if he had to.

[Orange_Beard]

Unless Liele is going for a RB.

But really what could Dayne be worth?

[Hogan11]

Ron Dayne is definitely expendable because he can't play special teams. What good is a third back that just rots on the bench all year waiting for an opportunity to carry the rock? I believe we activate three running backs on game day, so it is not in the best interest of the team to keep a guy like Dayne when we could activate a RB who plays ST. Cedric Cobbs, IF he plays special team and plays it good, should be the third back. I highly doubt Dayne is head and shoulders better than than Cobbs at this point in his career.

Dayne hurt us last year by not being able to contribute to special teams. Let's not make the same mistake this year. Trade Ron Dayne.

Dayne did play on special teams last year on a number of occasions

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=498&contentID=4205

He's had a bad camp (which happens to players on occasion), but he's far from worthless (as proven last season)...I'd say wait and see what he does in a few pre-season games before deciding his fate.

[DomCasual]

The bottom line is that neither the Bells or Dayne are going to be 350-carry guys this year, even in the best of circumstances. I would be against trading any of the three of them, unless the offer was just crazy.

[kamakazi_kal]

The Jets continue monitoring running backs around the league. The latest indications out of Denver are that Ron Dayne would be easier to pry from the Broncos than Tatum Bell.
-- Newsday


from SI

[elsid13]

You are putting a lot of faith in CSAP. (CSAP is inside joke for Colorado residents)

Unfortently it been long time since lived in Denver and Colorado Springs. So the joke is over my head, but I'm sure it funny.