British Intelligence Disrupt Muslim Plot To Blow Up 20 Planes!

[SteveTensi13]

British intelligence uncover a plot by muslim terrorists to seize and blow up 20 passenger planes while in flight. Most of the planes were set to fly to the U.S.

Explosives were found smuggled aboard luggage. No word of arrests made.

[BroncoMatt]

link?

[SteveTensi13]

Just saw it on Fox news (feed from British sky news). It'll hit the news here any minute. Sorry I tried to find a link but couldnt find any.

[footstepsfrom#27]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778575.stm

Plot to blow up planes' foiled

All airports have been put under the restrictions

A terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight from the UK to the US has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said.
It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on aircraft in hand luggage.

Police have arrested about 18 people in the London area after an anti-terrorist operation lasting several months.

Security at all airports in the UK has been tightened and delays are expected. MI5 has raised the UK threat level to critical - the highest possible.

According to MI5's website, critical threat level means "an attack is expected imminently and indicates an extremely high level of threat to the UK".

BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford says he does not think the police believe an attack is imminent.

I was handed a piece of paper saying that pretty much nothing could be taken on board the plane

Joe Lynam
BBC journalist at Gatwick


In full: Transport advice

"The reason for raising the threat level is in case there is some other sub-plot, back-up plot around this that the police aren't aware of," he said.

Scotland Yard said in a statement that their investigation into the alleged plot was a "major operation" which would be "lengthy and complex".

"We would like to reassure the public that this operation was carried out with public safety uppermost in our minds."

Home Secretary John Reid confirmed that there had been a plot "to bring down a number of aircraft through mid-flight explosions causing a considerable loss of life".

Prime Minister Tony Blair is on holiday in the Caribbean, but Downing Street said the police operation was undertaken with his full support and he has been "in constant touch".

A spokesman for Number 10 added that Mr Blair had briefed US President George Bush on the situation during the night.

Transparent bags

The Department for Transport set out the details of the security measures at UK airports.

THREAT LEVEL
The current threat level is assessed as critical as of 10th August 2006 - this means that an attack is expected imminently and indicates an extremely high level of threat to the UK

MI5 statement


Reid's terror plea

Passengers will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK, the department said.

Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags.

"We hope that these measures, which are being kept under review by the government, will need to be in place for a limited period only," the statement said.

'Jam-packed'

At Heathrow Airport, BBC presenter Fiona Bruce said there were "ranks of people" unable to get into the terminal.

"Terminal One is completely at a standstill. Nobody is being checked in at all."

She said it was "jam-packed", but passengers were managing to remain "good natured".

BBC journalist Joe Lynam encountered the increased security measures at Gatwick airport.

"I was handed a piece of paper saying that pretty much nothing could be taken on board the plane," he said.

"Everything had to be checked in and that includes mobile phones, ipods, wallets - even spectacle cases had to be checked in."

David Learmount from Flight International Magazine said he expected passengers to be searched much more carefully.

He added: "This is the first time this measure has actually been taken. Certainly I've never seen hand luggage banned."

[footstepsfrom#27]

Sounds like 007 was on the job...

[alkemical]

I wonder if i can open a nude airline, it would help with security.


nah good work MI5 -

8/22 is the day to watch

[Mile High Shack]

I wonder if i can open a nude airline, it would help with security.


nah good work MI5 -

8/22 is the day to watch

what's 8/22?

[Hotrod]

what's 8/22?

Ive been hearing that day also...I guess that is the day that Irans head idiot said we will have our answer to his nuclear program. Its also the day that the muslims think that mohamad (sp) flew on a horse to heaven or some damn thing.

Some in the "take a guess at the end of the world date" types make a pretty solid argument that Iran and others are targeting that date to start "the end times"

[alkemical]

what's 8/22?


Well iran has stated they will let the world know of their answer at the end of aug, and i've heard some other buzz via radio + net on this date.

Also in corrospondence with that - coast2coast has had some psychics on with end of aug/begin sept with something going down that isn't good. (I think of good psychics like weathermen - it's a forcast and you have %'s to play)

[enjolras]

Ive been hearing that day also...I guess that is the day that Irans head idiot said we will have our answer to his nuclear program. Its also the day that the muslims think that mohamad (sp) flew on a horse to heaven or some damn thing.

Some in the "take a guess at the end of the world date" types make a pretty solid argument that Iran and others are targeting that date to start "the end times"

Its also the anniversary of the day I first met my wife (8 years ago) :)

[Hotrod]

Its also the anniversary of the day I first met my wife (8 years ago) :)

LOL

[TheDave]

August 21... Party at Daves house (just in case)

[Mile High Shack]

Well iran has stated they will let the world know of their answer at the end of aug, and i've heard some other buzz via radio + net on this date.

Also in corrospondence with that - coast2coast has had some psychics on with end of aug/begin sept with something going down that isn't good. (I think of good psychics like weathermen - it's a forcast and you have %'s to play)

no offense

but I don't take much stock what psychis have to say

[alkemical]

no offense

but I don't take much stock what psychis have to say


So if the two are right and something DOES happen MHS - would you change your mind?

[Hotrod]

August 21... Party at Daves house (just in case)

Im in :giggle:

[Hotrod]

So if the two are right and something DOES happen MHS - would you change your mind?

I for one would take a longer look but only if they started giving better details not just "something major will happen in late Aug or Sept" Heck to me something major is the fact the Broncos will start their SB run in that time frame ;D

[alkemical]

Mind you, i don't put more than say 30% into what 'seers see' - but i do think there is some consideration.

Think of it like... an antenna - i think some people are tuned into it. Others just get the interference and are wrong.

But there are those that are RIGHT. Probably about as accurate as the weather man IMO.

[alkemical]

I for one would take a longer look but only if they started giving better details not just "something major will happen in late Aug or Sept" Heck to me something major is the fact the Broncos will start their SB run in that time frame ;D


Well the one stated an explosion or earthquake, which is vauge - but it's more than just "bad"

the other one prediction a nuke in the ME going off

[Mile High Shack]

So if the two are right and something DOES happen MHS - would you change your mind?

no
you take it some stupid muslim holiday or significant thing
then you take the events that happened today
then you take that Iran stated they will let everyone know about nuclear stuff on this day

I mean, c'mon, it's praying on people fears...that's what psychis do...fears and insecurities based on best guess scenerios

[Rohirrim]

Let's all tilt back a Guinness for the Brits. We should ban all liquids from flights. Period. There's no country you're flying to that you can't buy toothpaste, lotion, makeup, etc. etc.

[watermock]

Foiled plot brings new security, delays
AP - 50 minutes ago
LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the U.S. using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. Security was raised to its highest level in Britain, and carry-on luggage was banned on all flights. Huge crowds backed up at London's Heathrow airport as officials searching for explosives barred nearly every form of liquid outside of baby formula.

The pckage must of bben sigficant,or militlple packagte.

If that what he said I agree with you. dammit the bomb thread popped up.

We have terroistls like cockroches and noone notices?

[alkemical]

no
you take it some stupid muslim holiday or significant thing
then you take the events that happened today
then you take that Iran stated they will let everyone know about nuclear stuff on this day

I mean, c'mon, it's praying on people fears...that's what psychis do...fears and insecurities based on best guess scenerios


yeah except their predictions were months ago.


and you are wrong i've met 3 real ones - without knowing me, one told me my dads name, and that i was born in CO - and this was imprompteu at a party for my friends birthday (he didn't do it for a living, he just sat down and was talking to me)

[Crushaholic]

Foiled plot brings new security, delays
AP - 50 minutes ago
LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the U.S. using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. Security was raised to its highest level in Britain, and carry-on luggage was banned on all flights. Huge crowds backed up at London's Heathrow airport as officials searching for explosives barred nearly every form of liquid outside of baby formula.

The pckage must of bben sigficant,or militlple packagte.

If that what he said I agree with you. dammit the bomb thread popped up.

We have terroistls like cockroches and noone notices?

Drinking and posting is a bad combination...

[baja]

Foiled plot brings new security, delays
AP - 50 minutes ago
LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the U.S. using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. Security was raised to its highest level in Britain, and carry-on luggage was banned on all flights. Huge crowds backed up at London's Heathrow airport as officials searching for explosives barred nearly every form of liquid outside of baby formula.

The pckage must of bben sigficant,or militlple packagte.

If that what he said I agree with you. dammit the bomb thread popped up.

We have terroistls like cockroches and noone notices?

Looks like you found the dumpster where they are tossing all the confiscated liquids.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Foiled plot brings new security, delays
AP - 50 minutes ago
LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they thwarted a terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to the U.S. using explosives smuggled in carry-on luggage. Security was raised to its highest level in Britain, and carry-on luggage was banned on all flights. Huge crowds backed up at London's Heathrow airport as officials searching for explosives barred nearly every form of liquid outside of baby formula.
The pckage must of bben sigficant,or militlple packagte.
If that what he said I agree with you. dammit the bomb thread popped up.
We have terroistls like cockroches and noone notices?
Good grief, it's only a little after noon here and you're already sh*tfaced?

[PatsWin2002]

This is a huge story. Apparently Bush and Blair knew about it on Sunday and were waiting to act.

Sounds like it was all Pakistani-born British citizens plotting.

[Rock Chalk]

This is a huge story. Apparently Bush and Blair knew about it on Sunday and were waiting to act.

Sounds like it was all Pakistani-born British citizens plotting.
Im shocked!

[baja]

This is a huge story. Apparently Bush and Blair knew about it on Sunday and were waiting to act.

Sounds like it was all Pakistani-born British citizens plotting.

It is a huge story and life for the traveler just got much more complicated.

I can see it now, fly Naked Air where it is completely safe and there is nothing left to the imagination. Yikes!

[BKK]

Well iran has stated they will let the world know of their answer at the end of aug, and i've heard some other buzz via radio + net on this date.

Also in corrospondence with that - coast2coast has had some psychics on with end of aug/begin sept with something going down that isn't good. (I think of good psychics like weathermen - it's a forcast and you have %'s to play)

We will not have to guess Irans answer or rely on some "psychics" assesment of the outcome, if we just turn Iran into a piece of glass tomorrow.

[baja]

Ya know what it's time to profile

[baja]

August 21... Party at Daves house (just in case)


Where do you live?

[baja]

"Remember, remember the 5th of November"

[alkemical]

We will not have to guess Irans answer or rely on some "psychics" assesment of the outcome, if we just turn Iran into a piece of glass tomorrow.


Hey, what happens to 20% of the worlds Oil when it's radiated?

[alkemical]

one more thing on psychics -

Why does the US military use remote viewers?

[SteveTensi13]

THERE IS NO TERRORIST THREAT!

-Michael Moore

[Rohirrim]

Good grief, it's only a little after noon here and you're already sh*tfaced?
Hilarious!

[alkemical]

boooga booga!


Image a cop, an employee of the gov't - keeps harping how much better bigger gov't would be.

[Rigs11]

THERE IS NO TERRORIST THREAT!

-Michael Moore

"Mission accomplished"

-Your buddy Dumbya

[Hotrod]

"Mission accomplished"

-Your buddy Dumbya

Tell that to the widows and children without parents of 9/11

[Bronco_Beerslug]

THERE IS NO TERRORIST THREAT!

-Michael Moore

"After all, this is a guy who tried to kill my dad at one time."

"They're not happy they're occupied. I wouldn't be happy if I were occupied either. "

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush



http://bonstemps.com/Zombiebirdhouse/mission-accomplished.jpg

[Rigs11]

Tell that to the widows and children without parents of 9/11
Actually what I would ask them would be why the british gov can keep them safer than the US gov.

[watermock]

You can discount it all you want you dimwits.

Facts are fact.

We have every apologist hammering me. I am not the one of 20 that carried bombs. You whackos are simply amusing.

This was their "big push" and it fizzled.

The leftists are allready attacking in force. This forum stinks.

[Hotrod]

Actually what I would ask them would be why the british gov can keep them safer than the US gov.

Try 7/7 rail bombings :D

If someone wants to hurt you they can simple as that. The best you can do is try and stop them as often as you can.

[watermock]

Looks like you found the dumpster where they are tossing all the confiscated liquids.

You don't even live in this contry. STFU.

[Rohirrim]

http://www.despardes.com/oscartango/bush200-0416_resize.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~pillageidiot/Images/dukakis.jpg

[Meck77]

Isn't it ironic that a little strip of land known as the "Holy Land" will lead to the next world war that for all intensive purposes has already begun...Had those 20 plans all blown up it would have been on. I think this just delays things a bit.

It's no coincidence that 20 planes were about to blown up after Israel went on it's rampage.

[Hotrod]

Isn't it ironic that a little strip of land known as the "Holy Land" will lead to the next world war that for all intensive purposes has already begun...Had those 20 plans all blown up it would have been on. I think this just delays things a bit.

I wont debate you on Israel but I certainly am warming (not in a good way) to the idea that this thing is one mistake/large attack from turning into a global conflict.

[SteveTensi13]

boooga booga!


Image a cop, an employee of the gov't - keeps harping how much better bigger gov't would be.

Who me? No, I think we need a smaller government. I'd eliminate the NEA, Welfare, Social security.

[alkemical]

Who me? No, I think we need a smaller government. I'd eliminate the NEA, Welfare, Social security.


suuuuuuure - yet you want the gov't to protect you - yet you complain the gov't can do nothing right

100% hypocrisy!

[alkemical]

You don't even live in this contry. STFU.


yes but with bush pushing meximericanada he has a say -

www.spp.gov

[defenseman]

Hey, what happens to 20% of the worlds Oil when it's radiated?

the correct term is irradiated...dman

[alkemical]

the correct term is irradiated...dman


ahh, did not know that dman. Danka!

[defenseman]

You can discount it all you want you dimwits.

Facts are fact.

We have every apologist hammering me. I am not the one of 20 that carried bombs. You whackos are simply amusing.

This was their "big push" and it fizzled.

The leftists are allready attacking in force. This forum stinks.


Relax mock, did you expect any other reaction. Can't find a way to hang this on GW or Blair. Also shoots to hell the words of their idol and savior michael moore, as you said, "there is no terrorists threat"....dman

*this just in, it's a scam, just like 9-11. They weren't terrorists but girl scouts. Can't wait for the conspiracy theories on this one....should be great fiction....all a scam right lefties.....

[bendog]

d-man, it's a big story. But mock's posting drunk again. Hey, TJ, taser him in the nads! (bevis and butthead snorting) Yeah, in the nads!

[Rohirrim]

Relax mock, did you expect any other reaction. Can't find a way to hang this on GW or Blair. Also shoots to hell the words of their idol and savior michael moore, as you said, "there is no terrorists threat"....dman

*this just in, it's a scam, just like 9-11. They weren't terrorists but girl scouts. Can't wait for the conspiracy theories on this one....should be great fiction....all a scam right lefties.....

It's the vast, left-wing conspiracy.:spit:

[BKK]

Hey, what happens to 20% of the worlds Oil when it's radiated?

I digress, Iron bombs in mass quantities will do.

[alkemical]

I digress, Iron bombs in mass quantities will do.


Well they'd be heavy bombs........

but will the rest of the world care if we shut off 20%

[ClevelandBronco]

http://schadenfreude.cogitox.com/images/flag.gif

[bendog]

it's really irrelevant ames. Assuming we do bomb them, and I think we will unless McCain and Hagel tell Jr, "no," we won't kill all of their leaders, and the act of war will simply make the replacements even more radical.

So, even if the rest of the world gave Jr a pass, we'll be screwed worse than we are now.

It's rhetoric. Iran wants a bomb, but does it want to be irradiated by the 200 or so Israel has? No. But Iran does want to tell Israel that if it invades any ME country, that's crossing the nuke line.

[mosca]

one more thing on psychics -

Why does the US military use remote viewers?
I was under the impression that the remote viewing program had been abandoned. Have you seen <i>Suspect Zero</i>? Who knows, maybe the program's been resurrected in the wake of the "War on Terror".

[alkemical]

I was under the impression that the remote viewing program had been abandoned. Have you seen <i>Suspect Zero</i>? Who knows, maybe the program's been resurrected in the wake of the "War on Terror".


Nah it's under something else from what i read.

[elsid13]

Nah it's under something else from what i read.


it time to replace your tinfoil in your "special" hat, we're starting to read your brainwaves again and the ESPers are getting sick.

Thanks-

US GOVERNMENT OFFICE OF REMOTE SENSING

[Rock Chalk]

it's really irrelevant ames. Assuming we do bomb them, and I think we will unless McCain and Hagel tell Jr, "no," we won't kill all of their leaders, and the act of war will simply make the replacements even more radical.

So, even if the rest of the world gave Jr a pass, we'll be screwed worse than we are now.

It's rhetoric. Iran wants a bomb, but does it want to be irradiated by the 200 or so Israel has? No. But Iran does want to tell Israel that if it invades any ME country, that's crossing the nuke line.
There is only one problem with your thinking bendog.

Iran gets a bomb, Israel is effectively destroyed. It wont matter if they have 200, or 2000 bombs, Iran only needs one to effectively cripple Israel. With the entire political power base located in Jerusalem, Iran just has to destroy that one city and Ahmadinejad is crazy enough to do it.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Great job by Scotland Yard and the intellignece community to bust this thing up. Hundreds of lives were saved. If Britain would have been hit, all chaos would have broken loose in the international community. There's no reason to think that a British invasion wouldnt have followed.

It's important to remember that the terrorist threat is still very real today. India has been hit, Spain has been hit, France has a continuing problem, and Britain has been bombed. Iraq is under constant terrorist attack.

[Meck77]

There is only one problem with your thinking bendog.

Iran gets a bomb, Israel is effectively destroyed. It wont matter if they have 200, or 2000 bombs, Iran only needs one to effectively cripple Israel. With the entire political power base located in Jerusalem, Iran just has to destroy that one city and Ahmadinejad is crazy enough to do it.

On the flipside Israel is crazy enough to pop a nuke off also. One false move and Syria said they will jump in. Iran then jumps in and the rest of Israel's enemies.

Either way America loses because we are drug into this thing hook, line and sinker defending Israel. We've been getting sucked in more and more and Americans are dieing as a result. Had we not ****ed with the middle east to begin with defending them they would be killing one another only. Now we are a target and we might have just had planes flown into NY, LA, DENVER, VEGAS, MIAMI anytown USA today. Had that happened I think it's safe to say WWIII would be in full swing and for what? Israel's right to defend itself? Sorry I'm not buying into that anymore. I value the land in Manhattan or the beautiful front range of Denver more than the "holy sand" in the middle east.

Anyone notice that the war forum has become the Israel war forum.....Our peaceful allies are sure dominating things these days.

Anyone that thinks Israel dropping bombs on Arabs randomly is going to make for a safer world I have some oceanfront Mile High land I'd like to sell you.

This war is escalating folks and we could have had a dozen cities looking like NY did on 9-11.

[Hotrod]

On the flipside Israel is crazy enough to pop a nuke off also. One false move and Syria said they will jump in. Iran then jumps in and the rest of Israel's enemies.

Either way America loses because we are drug into this thing hook, line and sinker defending Israel. We've been getting sucked in more and more and Americans are dieing as a result. Had we not ****ed with the middle east to begin with defending them they would be killing one another only. Now we are a target and we might have just had planes flown into NY, LA, DENVER, VEGAS, MIAMI anytown USA today. Had that happened I think it's safe to say WWIII would be in full swing and for what? Israel's right to defend itself? Sorry I'm not buying into that anymore. I value the land in Manhattan or the beautiful front range of Denver more than the "holy sand" in the middle east.

Anyone notice that the war forum has become the Israel war forum.....Our peaceful allies are sure dominating things these days.

Again not going to argue the idea of defending Israel with you (we will never agree ;D) but your exactly right. The thing Im not sure everyone is getting is one huge event like what almost happened today and its on. I also think its very possible that the nuts on both sides almost wish it would happen.

[Meck77]

Again not going to argue the idea of defending Israel with you (we will never agree ;D) but your exactly right. The thing Im not sure everyone is getting is one huge event like what almost happened today and its on. I also think its very possible that the nuts on both sides almost wish it would happen.

Dude both of their bibles say when it's all said and done they are the choosen people to survive. Where does that leave the rest of us? I tell you where. They don't care.

It's getting real crazy...They've been fighting it out for centuries and it's written all too many times that it's destined to come down to the "holy land" Why should it be any other way I guess.

[alkemical]

it time to replace your tinfoil in your "special" hat, we're starting to read your brainwaves again and the ESPers are getting sick.

Thanks-

US GOVERNMENT OFFICE OF REMOTE SENSING


actually tinfoil hats make it EASIER to read someone's thoughts (MIT study)

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

[Hotrod]

actually tinfoil hats make it EASIER to read someone's thoughts (MIT study)

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

Ah CRAP...............;)

[epicSocialism4tw]

On the flipside Israel is crazy enough to pop a nuke off also. One false move and Syria said they will jump in. Iran then jumps in and the rest of Israel's enemies.

Either way America loses because we are drug into this thing hook, line and sinker defending Israel. We've been getting sucked in more and more and Americans are dieing as a result. Had we not ****ed with the middle east to begin with defending them they would be killing one another only. Now we are a target and we might have just had planes flown into NY, LA, DENVER, VEGAS, MIAMI anytown USA today. Had that happened I think it's safe to say WWIII would be in full swing and for what? Israel's right to defend itself? Sorry I'm not buying into that anymore. I value the land in Manhattan or the beautiful front range of Denver more than the "holy sand" in the middle east.

Anyone notice that the war forum has become the Israel war forum.....Our peaceful allies are sure dominating things these days.

Anyone that thinks Israel dropping bombs on Arabs randomly is going to make for a safer world I have some oceanfront Mile High land I'd like to sell you.

This war is escalating folks and we could have had a dozen cities looking like NY did on 9-11.

You are right about the middle east and it's perpetual warring, and how our avoidance of the situation would free us from the carnage. For the most part, that is true, but unfortunately we have international money interests that depend on those markets. The US is truely an international financial engine now. We are tied to the international marketplace.

To get free of the mid east warzone, it is absolutely imperative for the US to scale back its global economy significantly. Protecting Israel is important because of the great resource that they are for the US in the management of their business interests in the region.

International business interests = international wars.

[Hotrod]

You are right about the middle east and it's perpetual warring, and how our avoidance of the situation would free us from the carnage. For the most part, that is true, but unfortunately we have international money interests that depend on those markets. The US is truely an international financial engine now. We are tied to the international marketplace.

To get free of the mid east warzone, it is absolutely imperative for the US to scale back its global economy significantly. Protecting Israel is important because of the great resource that they are for the US in the management of their business interests in the region.

International business interests = international wars.

Im not one to stir **** up ;) but now you've done it....your about to get lots of facts & figure on how much we give them each year :clown:

[Meck77]

I thought about it HotRod but everyone knows they are sucking our tax dollars from under us by now...Or they should know.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Dude both of their bibles say when it's all said and done they are the choosen people to survive. Where does that leave the rest of us? I tell you where. They don't care.

It's getting real crazy...They've been fighting it out for centuries and it's written all too many times that it's destined to come down to the "holy land" Why should it be any other way I guess.


It's about money, chief.

[Hotrod]

I thought about it HotRod but everyone knows they are sucking our tax dollars from under us by now...Or they should know.

Its basically a rock and a hard place. Im not sure we can stop defending Israel and personally with the fat/lazy attitiudes of most Americans today I laugh everytime I hear the proposal of cutting ourselves off oil. I think until it hurts we wont learn.....

[epicSocialism4tw]

Im not one to stir **** up ;) but now you've done it....your about to get lots of facts & figure on how much we give them each year :clown:


Sure, we provide them with alot in an exchange for several services. That is no secret. It's typical of a business relationship.

My point is this...

If you want to be free of the wars in the middle east, put pressure on our government to move away from the international business lobby (which is more prevalent than you think) and begin to take care of our own.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Relax mock, did you expect any other reaction. Can't find a way to hang this on GW or Blair. Also shoots to hell the words of their idol and savior michael moore, as you said, "there is no terrorists threat"....dman

*this just in, it's a scam, just like 9-11. They weren't terrorists but girl scouts. Can't wait for the conspiracy theories on this one....should be great fiction....all a scam right lefties.....
:rofl:
dman defending the mid-day drunk....Classic!

[Meck77]

Ofcourse it's about money and it's definetly about religion. Add both of those together and I'm just going to sit back and wait for the mushroom cloud to rise. It may be 1 year/5 years/maybe more but it will happen because of Israel's right to defend itself. In the meantime I'm going to hit as many Broncos games as I can while everyone else blames the arabs or Israel's right to defend themselves.

No country is too important in my book to fight world war III over.

[alkemical]

Sure, we provide them with alot in an exchange for several services. That is no secret. It's typical of a business relationship.

My point is this...

If you want to be free of the wars in the middle east, put pressure on our government to move away from the international business lobby (which is more prevalent than you think) and begin to take care of our own.


what do we get in exchange?

[Hotrod]

Sure, we provide them with alot in an exchange for several services. That is no secret. It's typical of a business relationship.

My point is this...

If you want to be free of the wars in the middle east, put pressure on our government to move away from the international business lobby (which is more prevalent than you think) and begin to take care of our own.

I'll send them a postcard. Breaking News they dont give a **** anymore. The special intrest groups are running the show. Hell we dont even get 2 solid canidates anymore. We get the 2 they tell us we get.

Im getting frustrated...........

[Mile High Shack]

Ofcourse it's about money and it's definetly about religion. Add both of those in and I'm just going to sit back and wait for the mushroom cloud to rise. It may be a year/5 years/maybe 25 but it will happen because of Israel's right to defend itself.

BS
it drops a bomb, then it will get a bomb dropped on it

the 80's weren't that long ago and the cold war...remember?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Ofcourse it's about money and it's definetly about religion. Add both of those together and I'm just going to sit back and wait for the mushroom cloud to rise. It may be 1 year/5 years/maybe more but it will happen because of Israel's right to defend itself. In the meantime I'm going to hit as many Broncos games as I can while everyone else blames the arabs or Israel's right to defend themselves.

So...let's get a fundamental idea estalished here. Do you think that Israel has that sovereign right?

[Meck77]

BS
it drops a bomb, then it will get a bomb dropped on it

the 80's weren't that long ago and the cold war...remember?

And then you have guys like shack that believe a couple nukes will solve the problem....If this isn't any indication we are living in a crazy world I don't know what is. Ha!

[epicSocialism4tw]

I'll send them a postcard. Breaking News they dont give a **** anymore. The special intrest groups are running the show. Hell we dont even get 2 solid canidates anymore. We get the 2 they tell us we get.

Im getting frustrated...........


The special interest groups have always run the show. Now, the US' economic expansionism has made them reliant on foreign markets, and subject to their influence.

Before the New World Order, the special interest groups were more accountable to the needs of the citizenry of the US. Now, we are a global government. Both parties have had a huge influence on the move in that direction.

[Mile High Shack]

And then you have guys like shack that believe a couple nukes will solve the problem....If this isn't any indication we are living in a crazy world I don't know what is. Ha!

did I say that?

I said that the threat of total anihilation on either side sometimes precludes people from acting...basically

[elsid13]

I'll send them a postcard. Breaking News they dont give a **** anymore. The special intrest groups are running the show. Hell we dont even get 2 solid canidates anymore. We get the 2 they tell us we get.

Im getting frustrated...........

Spider,

That crap has been happening since Washington's time, the only differenece is that now reported. Before it was swept under the rug, since reporters didn't want to rat on their drinking buddies.

[Meck77]

did I say that?

I said that the threat of total anihilation on either side sometimes precludes people from acting...basically

Dude that's before we had our financial center leveled by some arabs who were pissed off at us because we are in bed with Israel.

20 planes almost made crash landings today. Wake up!

Israel is basically carpet bombing lebanon now. To answer the question earlier. Yes Israel has the right to defend itself but they don't have the right to carpet bomb a country, women, children, and deny the right for huminatarian aide to those who have affiliation with Hezbollah.

It's terrorism on both ends.

[alkemical]

BS
it drops a bomb, then it will get a bomb dropped on it

the 80's weren't that long ago and the cold war...remember?


Yeah, saddam and osoma were our friends fighting C.O.B.R.A

[Mile High Shack]

Dude that's before we had our financial center leveled by some arabs who were pissed off at us because we are in bed with Israel.

20 planes almost made crash landings today. Wake up!

you are talking about nukes

don't tell me to wake up

keep your story straight on what you are talking about before you come blasting at me with both barrells

lick 'em

[Hotrod]

did I say that?

I said that the threat of total anihilation on either side sometimes precludes people from acting...basically

I think the arguement is that it would only take 1 to destroy Israel. Iran and the fanantics on the other side know this. They are probebly crazy enough to not care seeing how they would be getting all the virgians and what not....The religion card is the one that makes a mess of the issue.

[Hotrod]

Im thinking Iran gets her missle and fires it at israel but somehow it lands on Damascus and the city ceases to exist.............

[elsid13]

Dude that's before we had our financial center leveled by some arabs who were pissed off at us because we are in bed with Israel.

20 planes almost made crash landings today. Wake up!

Israel is basically carpet bombing lebanon now. To answer the question earlier. Yes Israel has the right to defend itself but they don't have the right to carpet bomb a country, women, children, and deny the right for huminatarian aide to those who have affiliation with Hezbollah.

It's terrorism on both ends.

Meck- Al Qaeda until recently could have cared less about the Palestinian issue. And even now it was more of political/media relationship thing to reenergize his base. Osma was concern in remove American troops from Saudi and creating a new Copulate with him as it head.

[Meck77]

lick 'em

Here we go......That's real classy there Shack!

If 4 Broncos fans can't even have a civil discussion do we really think the ****ing insane leaders of Israel, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, and hell let's add in George Bush can avoid a full on war? I don't think so.

Waste them Arabs! I know that's what you want to hear from us Shack.

I just don't think it's worth sending more Americans to die in the middle east to protect Israel's interest. They aren't mine. I'm not getting cheaper oil and I don't plan on visiting the holy land anytime soon.

[Meck77]

Meck- Al Qaeda until recently could have cared less about the Palestinian issue. And even now it was more of political/media relationship thing to reenergize his base. Osma was concern in remove American troops from Saudi and creating a new Copulate with him as it head.

BS Osama wrote on the issue in 1996 when he declared war on the United States.

[defenseman]

[QUOTE=Meck77]On the flipside Israel is crazy enough to pop a nuke off also. One false move and Syria said they will jump in. Iran then jumps in and the rest of Israel's enemies.

QUOTE]

I agree with your fear of this. I too have the same fear. I am concerned that the later two jump in and Israel , quite honestly feels trapped and forced into playing their final card. To be honest, I'm thinking the US would jump in before it was to the point of israel lighting off their nukes...I hope...dman

[Bronco9798]

Isn't it ironic that a little strip of land known as the "Holy Land" will lead to the next world war that for all intensive purposes has already begun...Had those 20 plans all blown up it would have been on. I think this just delays things a bit.

It's no coincidence that 20 planes were about to blown up after Israel went on it's rampage.


It would take longer than 30 days to plan something of that magnutide.

[Meck77]

Oh I don't dispute that...I'm sure it just moved up their time table though....Hell maybe even encouraged them to make some mistakes by trying to speed things up.

[Bronco9798]

Good point..It probably did....I wouldn't be surprised.

[baja]

You don't even live in this contry. STFU.

Right now I'm living in Hilo Hawaii although you might not think you are in the USA you are. So you STFU grape breath

[elsid13]

BS Osama wrote on the issue in 1996 when he declared war on the United States.

He add a couple lines at the end of his crazy manifesto. It was almost after thought.

[baja]

the correct term is irradiated...dman

Ya it's the same technology used to preserve our food, it's great for the shelf life of a peach but hell on the food value of said peach

[Crushaholic]

Well, well, well....

USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation

Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.

By BRIAN BENNETT AND DOUGLAS WALLER/WASHINGTON

Posted Thursday, Aug. 10, 2006
Wednesday night was a long and troubling one for Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff. A bubbling plot by British citizens to blow up airplanes had come to a boil in the past three days, and as British authorities arrested dozens of suspects around London, it was Chertoff's job to coordinate the U.S. defenses. Scary intelligence reports pop up all the time, but this particular terror operation got close enough to being carried out that it rattled even the normally sedate Chertoff. "Very seldom do things get to me," he told Rep. Peter King, the Republican chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, in a phone call late Wednesday night. "This one has really gotten to me."

Chertoff had good reason to be worried. Senior U.S officials have confirmed to TIME details of the plot that led the secretary to ratchet up the color-coded security alert for British-U.S. flights to an unprecedented red for "Severe." A total of 24 individuals were arrested in Britain overnight and, says one senior U.S. official who was briefed on the plot, five still remain at large. Their plan was to smuggle the peroxide-based liquid explosive TATP and detonators onto nine different planes from four carriers — British Airways, Continental, United and American — that fly direct routes between the U.K and the U.S. and blow them up mid-air. Intelligence officials estimate that about 2,700 people would have perished, according to the official.

Britain's MI-5 intelligence service and Scotland Yard had been tracking the plot for several months, but only in the past two weeks had the plotters' planning begun to crystallize, senior U.S. officials tell TIME. In the two or three days before the arrests, the cell was going operational, and authorities were pressed into action. MI5 and Scotland Yard agents tracked the plotters from the ground, while a knowledgeable American official says U.S. intelligence provided London authorities with intercepts of the group's communications. Most of the suspects are second or third generation British citizens of Pakistani descent whose families hailed from war-torn Kashmir. U.S. officials believe the 29 members were divided into multiple cells and planned to break into small groups to board the nine planes.

During the past few months the plotters' attack plans had changed, > said Deputy Secretary for Homeland Security Michael Jackson. "There were different data sets about their interests over time that evolved," he said. It was only in recent days, said Jackson, that the plans began to focus on British-U.S. flights. The plot was "very near execution" but not imminent, Jackson said. "We didn't pull people off of airplanes."

So as not to derail the British round-up, Chertoff had to wait until the early hours of Thursday morning after all the London arrests were made before notifying U.S. airports of the threat, say senior DHS officals. When it became clear the arrests would be wrapped up around 1 a.m Washington time, Chertoff got on a conference call with his Homeland Security Advisory Committee to approve changing the threat level. Then calls when out to the airlines, airline security companies and labor unions affected by the changes, as well as to members of Congress.

Though the plot has all the hallmarks of an al Qaeda operation, U.S. officials cautioned that there isn't yet evidence of a direct link between the plotters and the organization's top leaders. "We're not convinced this particular operation is connected to the al Qaeda chain of command," Charles Allen, Chief of Intelligence for the Department of Homeland Security, told reporters on Thursday afternoon. As for whether the attack was being timed for the fifth anniversary of Sept. 11, Allen said he thought the attack would simply be launched when it was ready. "I am a long standing believer that terrorist plotters or planners execute when they have all of the plot together," said Allen. "We have no evidence this was timed to any particular holiday or special event."

The plot also appears to be a return to older terrorist tactics of trying to blow up an airplane in mid air, rather than turn the jet into a missile as the Sept. 11 attackers did. Allen stressed that the plans seemed designed to kill passengers, not crash into a city on the ground. "We have no evidence there was targeting of cities," said Allen, "This was an effort to destroy multiple aircraft in flight — not against any territory of the United States."

With five members of the cell believed to be at large, the threat still looms and intelligence officials are still working to unravel the full extent of the plot. "I don't believe we know all the dimensions of this plot. Time has to pass to determine that a network was disrupted," said Allen. Worries another U.S. official: "Plan A has been stopped, but the concern: Is there a Plan B?"

The possibility that liquid explosives could be smuggled onto a plane is not a surprise to counterterrorism experts, and the tightening of U.S. airport security could only be temporary as security officials learn more about the extent of the plot and how to defend against such an attack. The current measures — stripping passengers of anything liquid in their carry-on luggage — were in reaction to these particular arrests, and not to the realization of a new, unforeseen threat. "We're primarily concerned about this particular plot," said Allen, implying that the new security measures are not permanent.

FBI and Department of Homeland Security officials quickly alerted law enforcement agencies around the country to the peroxide-based liquid explosives the London plotters planned to bring aboard the American-bound planes. An alert the FBI and DHS sent out Thursday to state and local law enforcement agencies — which is classified "For Official Use Only" and was obtained by TIME — warns them that the peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks here.

The Joint Homeland Special Assessment, which the FBI and DHS's Office of Intelligence Analysis drafted and sent out, is titled "Possible Terrorist Use of Liquid Explosive Materials in Future Attacks." The document states: "The FBI and DHS have no information of plotting within the United States, but such a possibility cannot be discounted." The FBI-DHS report notes that Osama bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri insisted in a July 27 videotape that Al Qaeda was still intent on conducting another "spectacular" attack in the United States. Zawahiri, the report notes, used photos of the World Trade Center burning on Sept. 11 and 9/11 leader Muhammad Atta "in the background of this video."

The FBI-DHS report next warns law enforcement agencies about the two peroxide-based liquid explosive that could be used in a future attack against the U.S.--triacetone triperoxide (TATP) or hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD). The report describes how a terrorist would assemble bombs with these chemicals. Peroxide-based liquid explosives "are sensitive to heat, shock, and friction, can be initiated simply with fire or electrical charge, and can also be used to produce improvised detonators," the report states. "For example, TATP or HMTD may be placed in a tube or syringe body in contact with a bare bulb filament, such as that obtained from inside a Christmas tree light bulb, to produce an explosion." The report doesn't mention anything about a terrorist assembling such a bomb on a plane, but it does warn that manufacturing such a device can be dangerous for the bombmaker. "Because of the instability of these substances," the report notes, "spontaneous detonation can occur during the production process."

[baja]

I was under the impression that the remote viewing program had been abandoned. Have you seen <i>Suspect Zero</i>? Who knows, maybe the program's been resurrected in the wake of the "War on Terror".

Remote viewing is alive and well

[baja]

On the flipside Israel is crazy enough to pop a nuke off also. One false move and Syria said they will jump in. Iran then jumps in and the rest of Israel's enemies.

Either way America loses because we are drug into this thing hook, line and sinker defending Israel. We've been getting sucked in more and more and Americans are dieing as a result. Had we not ****ed with the middle east to begin with defending them they would be killing one another only. Now we are a target and we might have just had planes flown into NY, LA, DENVER, VEGAS, MIAMI anytown USA today. Had that happened I think it's safe to say WWIII would be in full swing and for what? Israel's right to defend itself? Sorry I'm not buying into that anymore. I value the land in Manhattan or the beautiful front range of Denver more than the "holy sand" in the middle east.

Anyone notice that the war forum has become the Israel war forum.....Our peaceful allies are sure dominating things these days.

Anyone that thinks Israel dropping bombs on Arabs randomly is going to make for a safer world I have some oceanfront Mile High land I'd like to sell you.

This war is escalating folks and we could have had a dozen cities looking like NY did on 9-11.

Had the leading nations of the world come together after 9/11 to work together against terrorism we would be seeing a much different world than the one we have. When George Bush and the neocons decided to use the 9/11 tragedy to force it's agenda on America and the rest of the world by attacking Saddam, pig that he is he was not the problem, the price was to make distrusting enemies out on long time friends allowing a breeding ground of the incubation of terrorism.

[baja]

The special interest groups have always run the show. Now, the US' economic expansionism has made them reliant on foreign markets, and subject to their influence.

Before the New World Order, the special interest groups were more accountable to the needs of the citizenry of the US. Now, we are a global government. Both parties have had a huge influence on the move in that direction.

good point

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Had the leading nations of the world come together after 9/11 to work together against terrorism we would be seeing a much different world than the one we have. When George Bush and the neocons decided to use the 9/11 tragedy to force it's agenda on America and the rest of the world by attacking Saddam, pig that he is he was not the problem, the price was to make distrusting enemies out on long time friends allowing a breeding ground of the incubation of terrorism.

Bingo. :thumbsup:

Sympathy for America and the cause of combatting terrorism was at an all-time high after 9/11 - and then the Exxon Mobil Sock Puppet had to f_ck it up by using the tragedy as a pretext for invading a country that wasn't involved in 9/11 and wasn't a threat to us (or its neighbors.)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

On the flipside Israel is crazy enough to pop a nuke off also. One false move and Syria said they will jump in. Iran then jumps in and the rest of Israel's enemies.

Either way America loses because we are drug into this thing hook, line and sinker defending Israel. We've been getting sucked in more and more and Americans are dieing as a result. Had we not ****ed with the middle east to begin with defending them they would be killing one another only. Now we are a target and we might have just had planes flown into NY, LA, DENVER, VEGAS, MIAMI anytown USA today. Had that happened I think it's safe to say WWIII would be in full swing and for what? Israel's right to defend itself? Sorry I'm not buying into that anymore. I value the land in Manhattan or the beautiful front range of Denver more than the "holy sand" in the middle east.

Anyone notice that the war forum has become the Israel war forum.....Our peaceful allies are sure dominating things these days.

Anyone that thinks Israel dropping bombs on Arabs randomly is going to make for a safer world I have some oceanfront Mile High land I'd like to sell you.

This war is escalating folks and we could have had a dozen cities looking like NY did on 9-11.

Damn, what is the world coming to?

I keep agreeing with Meck. :D

[SteveTensi13]

Had the leading nations of the world come together after 9/11 to work together against terrorism we would be seeing a much different world than the one we have. When George Bush and the neocons decided to use the 9/11 tragedy to force it's agenda on America and the rest of the world by attacking Saddam, pig that he is he was not the problem, the price was to make distrusting enemies out on long time friends allowing a breeding ground of the incubation of terrorism.

Is it Bush's fault that Europe, outside of UK, are chalk full of cowards! Europe has a long history of appeasement and their refusal to take on terrorism is just one more notch on their appeasement mantel. The US is the only nation with the cajones to say "enough". Go ahead and bury your head in the sand and play nice, nice with the fascists. I prefer we go on the offensive and take the fight to them!! GOD BLESS AMERICA.

[TailgateNut]

Is it Bush's fault that Europe, outside of UK, are chalk full of cowards! Europe has a long history of appeasement and their refusal to take on terrorism is just one more notch on their appeasement mantel. The US is the only nation with the cajones to say "enough". Go ahead and bury your head in the sand and play nice, nice with the fascists. I prefer we go on the offensive and take the fight to them!! GOD BLESS AMERICA.


Should the rest of the world just agree with our moron in charge. We have compromised more of our security by wasting our time in that shi* pit know to most as Iraq. The billions spent chasing our tail there could have been more wisely used to beef up homeland security and chasing the terrorists, instead of trying to convert a country who never wanted the democracy we are attempting to shove down their parched throats. Instead of using our collective noodles, we (yours truly excluded) on the other hand follow Bush and his BS cowboy mentality.
Sure, you prefer to take the fight to them because of two reasons:
One, the "be afraid factor" which has been planted in your head by your fearful leader.
Two, you don't have to be actively involved in the fight, and make no sacrifices to support the efffort!
The longer we continue to keep American soldiers on the ground in Iraq and/ or in the ME, the more terrorists we "create"!
We are more in danger now than we were before 9-11 because of the incompetence of this administration and it's total lack of understanding of the mindset of the terrorists. They are laughing louder each day as they watch us drive this country to financial ruin, allow our soldier to be killed and maimed, and as we create more enemies than allies!

[Rohirrim]

Last week, a spigot in my back yard broke and was flooding my back yard. I began to patch the crack in the pipe where the water was coming out, but I couldn't because the harder I tried to patch the hole, the greater the water pressure became and was spewing all over the place. I just couldn't patch it up. The water kept coming.


j/k Actually, I went down in the basement and turned the water to the sprinkler system off. Once the water stopped flowing, it was easy to replace the pipe.

[defenseman]

Right now I'm living in Hilo Hawaii although you might not think you are in the USA you are. So you STFU grape breath

Big island is nice. I like Kauai also. You can have Oahu.....My wife helped design one of the big resorts out there on the big island. Forgot which one to be honest, but the grand opening was freaking awesome, what I remember of it that is...dman

[bendog]

Last week, a spigot in my back yard broke and was flooding my back yard. I began to patch the crack in the pipe where the water was coming out, but I couldn't because the harder I tried to patch the hole, the greater the water pressure became and was spewing all over the place. I just couldn't patch it up. The water kept coming.


j/k Actually, I went down in the basement and turned the water to the sprinkler system off. Once the water stopped flowing, it was easy to replace the pipe.
I'm a neocon. I broke off the spigot where the hose gets screwed on in the back yard. Water came spewing out the broken pipe. Having never owned a home with no basement and a conventional foundation, I was crawling all around underneath the house, in and out of all the little crawl space holes, with a flashlight, in the dirt, looking for the water turn off. My neighbor asked me what I was doing, and I explained my problem to him. He told me the water shut off was at the end of my front lawn, underneath a metal plate that I could lift up with a shovel or pry bar, and he gave me this corrogated iron rod tool-doowhicky that is made to turn off the valve. But it said "made in France" so I knew it was a trick. The water's still running in my backyard.

[elsid13]

I'm a neocon. I broke off the spigot where the hose gets screwed on in the back yard. Water came spewing out the broken pipe. Having never owned a home with no basement and a conventional foundation, I was crawling all around underneath the house, in and out of all the little crawl space holes, with a flashlight, in the dirt, looking for the water turn off. My neighbor asked me what I was doing, and I explained my problem to him. He told me the water shut off was at the end of my front lawn, underneath a metal plate that I could lift up with a shovel or pry bar, and he gave me this corrogated iron rod tool-doowhicky that is made to turn off the valve. But it said "made in France" so I knew it was a trick. The water's still running in my backyard.

You forgot to mention that you put on your plumbing outfit and declared the problem solved.

[SteveTensi13]

That little flood just drowned a bunch of rats hiding in the basement. Vermin problem solved.

[bendog]

That little flood just drowned a bunch of rats hiding in the basement. Vermin problem solved.
Reading comprehension not a strong suit.

[alkemical]

That little flood just drowned a bunch of rats hiding in the basement. Vermin problem solved.



What basement?

[elsid13]

What basement?

Obliviously there was a basement, but the the Liberals give it away to pregnant welfare mother and made taxpayer support her, instead of allowing Bendog to repair those pipes because American needs to be PC. We need to cut those dam taxes, and Rush will lead the way.

(INSERT A VERY HEAVY SARCAMS VOICE TO THE POST)

[mhgaffney]

Bingo. :thumbsup:

Sympathy for America and the cause of combatting terrorism was at an all-time high after 9/11 - and then the Exxon Mobil Sock Puppet had to f_ck it up by using the tragedy as a pretext for invading a country that wasn't involved in 9/11 and wasn't a threat to us (or its neighbors.)

After 911 a million people marched in Tehran -- a candle light march in sympathy for the victims of 911 and totally friendly to America. And indeed Iran opposed the Taliban and Al Qaeda and helped the US in the attack on Afghanistan, and in supplying information about the jihadists.

This common ground could have resulted in improved relations betweeen the US and Iran for the first time since 1950. But it didn't happen. Why not?

Because of our alliance with Israel. As it happens (see the Chomsky: Apocalypse Near thread) Iran is a part of the international consensus, meaning it supports the UN Security Council resolutions on Palestine (242 and 338) which call for Israel to withdraw from lands siezed in the 67 war, specifically, the W Bank and Golan.

Iran also supports Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. So it happened that Bush killed the improved relations with Iran after 911 by demonizing Iran as part of the evil axis. And the spin maestering continues today as we are manipulated into the next war -- against a nation -- Iran -- with which we should be friendly.

MG

[errand]

Sounds like 007 was on the job...

Well, one advanatge the Brits have over the US is that the NY Times and parliament isn't telling everyone how they are able to apprehend these bastards

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Well, one advanatge the Brits have over the US is that George W. Bush isn't boasting to everyone about how he intends to apprehend these bastards

Fixed it for you.

[errand]

yeah except their predictions were months ago.


and you are wrong i've met 3 real ones - without knowing me, one told me my dads name, and that i was born in CO - and this was imprompteu at a party for my friends birthday (he didn't do it for a living, he just sat down and was talking to me)


I'm with MHS on this one...

The conversation probably went like -

"Oh, and this is Ames Jr.....(while you were wearing a broncos t-shirt)

[errand]

Actually what I would ask them would be why the british gov can keep them safer than the US gov.

Yeah, except for those that take the trains, huh?

Did it ever occur to you clowns that the Brits don't have the ACLU and NY Times working against them?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did it ever occur to you clowns that the Brits don't have the ACLU and NY Times working against them?

Is that any way to talk about the same rag whose star reporter did 80+ days in the pokey for Scooter and the rest of your team?

The same rag that served as unthinking cheerleading squad/WH stenography service in the run-up to Operation Iraqi Handjob?

The ingratitude of some people!

And the ACLU?

Yeah, you gotta a hate an organization whose sole reason for existence is to defend the Constitution.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did it ever occur to you clowns that the Brits don't have the ACLU and NY Times working against them?

Thanks for keeping us up to date on Oxycontin Boy's thoughts, Ricky Bobby.

http://www.impawards.com/2006/posters/talladega_nights.jpg

[alkemical]

I'm with MHS on this one...

The conversation probably went like -

"Oh, and this is Ames Jr.....(while you were wearing a broncos t-shirt)


nah was wearing a suit n tie - and to pin point how my dad died - is another one -

The only thing he was really wrong on, is i didn't meet a girl named laura, but lauren. So yeah, i guess he was wrong... ;)

[alkemical]

Yeah, except for those that take the trains, huh?

Did it ever occur to you clowns that the Brits don't have the ACLU and NY Times working against them?


What would make you safe errand?

ID check at every place? Total survalience?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/pablo-naked.jpg

Keith Olbermann shows how every time Bush gets caught
or something embarrassing happens to him, they fake a terror alert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ