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TDmvp
08-09-2006, 04:06 AM
just heard on local Cincinnati news he was busted for having 4 yes 4 loaded guns in his suv....

elsid13
08-09-2006, 04:10 AM
dumb ass. I thought he was still in jail

TDmvp
08-09-2006, 04:28 AM
he fought with the cops before finding the guns.... HE WAS WEARING A BULLETPROOF VEST .... they tried a stun gun on him and it WOULDNT work cuz of the vest .... they maced him and arrested

cutthemdown
08-09-2006, 04:50 AM
good news travels fast

Dukes
08-09-2006, 05:05 AM
how pethetic

orangefan56
08-09-2006, 05:10 AM
the guy could be enjoying millions in the NFL instead he'll be getting 3 squares a day. What an idiot!!

watermock
08-09-2006, 05:17 AM
He obviously is mentally ill.

Orange_Beard
08-09-2006, 05:38 AM
With all the draft screening, We could not see that this guy is flat out crazy.

What a nut job.

ksBRONCOfan
08-09-2006, 06:16 AM
What an idiot...

sbchampbronx
08-09-2006, 06:16 AM
surprise surprise...What i still don't understand is how did this guy get Jim Brown to vouch and cheerlead for him? remember those retarded interviews (which i'm sure shanny saw prior to drafting faurice clarett) where jim brown and clarett's mom and him all talked about how classy a guy he really was and how he'd gotten a bad rap. Absolutely rediculous....

gunns
08-09-2006, 06:28 AM
Updated: Aug. 9, 2006, 8:18 AM ET
Police use Mace on Clarett, arrest him after chase
Associated Press


COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Maurice Clarett was arrested early Wednesday after a highway chase that ended with police using Mace on the former Ohio State running back and finding four loaded guns in his truck, a police spokesman said.

Officers used Mace to subdue Clarett after a stun gun was ineffective because the former Fiesta Bowl star was wearing a bullet-resistant vest, Sgt. Michael Woods said.

"It took several officers to get him handcuffed," Woods said. "Even after he was placed in the paddy wagon, he was still kicking at the doors and being a problem for the officers."

Clarett was taken to police headquarters to be interviewed. Police planned to charge him with carrying concealed weapons and other counts, Woods said.

Clarett made an illegal U-turn on the city's east side and failed to stop when officers, in a cruiser with lights flashing, tried to pull him over, Woods said.

Police were pursuing Clarett on eastbound Interstate 70 when he darted across the median and began heading west. Clarett drove over a spike strip that was placed on the highway, flattening the driver's side tires of the SUV, Woods said.

Clarett exited the highway and pulled into a restaurant parking lot, where officers removed him from the SUV after he failed to obey numerous orders to exit the vehicle, Woods said.

After Clarett was placed in a police van, officers discovered a loaded rifle and three loaded handguns in the front of the vehicle, Woods said.

Woods said he did not know where Clarett got the guns or why he had them, and that federal authorities plan to trace their ownership.

Clarett, 22, is currently awaiting trial on two counts of aggravated robbery, four counts of robbery and one count of carrying a concealed weapon in a separate case. Authorities said he was identified by witnesses as the person who flashed a gun and robbed two people in an alley behind the Opium Lounge in the early hours of Jan. 1.

Messages seeking comment were left Wednesday morning for Clarett's attorneys in that case, Nick Mango and Michael Hoague.

Clarett scored the winning touchdown in the second overtime to lead Ohio State to the 2002 national championship, the school's first since 1968. But that was the last game the freshman played for Ohio State. He sat out the 2003 season after being charged with misdemeanor falsification on a police report, then dropped out of school. He sued to be included in the 2004 NFL draft and lost in court.

A surprise third-round pick in the 2005 draft, he was cut by the Denver Broncos during the preseason.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2544230

-Slap-
08-09-2006, 06:34 AM
surprise surprise...What i still don't understand is how did this guy get Jim Brown to vouch and cheerlead for him? remember those retarded interviews (which i'm sure shanny saw prior to drafting faurice clarett) where jim brown and clarett's mom and him all talked about how classy a guy he really was and how he'd gotten a bad rap. Absolutely rediculous....
Jim Brown is so classy, he threw one woman out of a second floor window and served time in jail for beating another woman.

sbchampbronx
08-09-2006, 06:38 AM
Jim Brown is so classy, he threw one woman out of a second floor window and served time in jail for beating another woman.
guess that explains the clarett connection...

-Slap-
08-09-2006, 06:49 AM
There were TV cameras around Clarett at the time, so Jim felt compelled to do his civic duty.

Circle Orange
08-09-2006, 06:59 AM
You gotta give ol' Maury credit...he don't take no stuff. Not from the man, the society, or the people. He do WHAT he want, WHEN he want. And if he wanna go out an' settle old scores, maybe knock off a gas station here 'an dere, ya gotta admire dat. Man gotta do what a man gotta do. Tear the roof off the sucker...

footstepsfrom#27
08-09-2006, 07:52 AM
Clarett, 22, is currently awaiting trial on two counts of aggravated robbery, four counts of robbery and one count of carrying a concealed weapon in a separate case. Authorities said he was identified by witnesses as the person who flashed a gun and robbed two people in an alley behind the Opium Lounge in the early hours of Jan. 1.
Uh...why was this numbskull not rotting behind bars instead of roaming the land free and easy with a bell tower kit in his car?

Bail bond...what a great system.

toad
08-09-2006, 08:06 AM
Clarett is, perhaps, one of the saddest downfalls in sports history...IMO alongside Mike Tyson.

Master___Pain
08-09-2006, 08:23 AM
The rifle was not your run of the mill hunting rifle either, turns out it was an AK-47!! Looks like old Mo was going to war.

Orange_Beard
08-09-2006, 08:27 AM
ONLY 4 GUNS?

I would think he would need like 6 or 7 for protection.

NaptownChief
08-09-2006, 08:32 AM
Clarett is, perhaps, one of the saddest downfalls in sports history...IMO alongside Mike Tyson.



Well Tyson was the greatest at what he did.....Clarett JugHead was a 4.79 40 plodding injury prone bum that was highly questionable if he even had NFL talent despite what Bobby Turner foolishly thought.

epa86b@netzero
08-09-2006, 08:36 AM
The rifle was not your run of the mill hunting rifle either, turns out it was an AK-47!! Looks like old Mo was going to war.
Maurice Clarett makes a phone call as he is booked at Franklin County Corrections Center, Wednesday, Aug. 9, 2006, in Columbus, Ohio.


All I can say is "Damn, Damn, ....., Damn!!!". It looks like he had a rough night. You think!

dbfan4life
08-09-2006, 08:43 AM
What an idiot!!! Gosh!!!!!

fontaine
08-09-2006, 09:04 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=16878&stc=1&d=1155133996

It's strange seeing Clarett in that prison uni.

All he needs to do is get a hold of a black magic marker, draw on some stripes and he'd fit right in with the Bengals.

I'll bet Marvin Lewis is tripping over himself to get this guy in camp now.

DomCasual
08-09-2006, 09:23 AM
That probably rules him out for this year, I guess.

Anyone have any idea as to how this might affect his status for '07? I just keep thinking this kid has a comeback in him.

bpc
08-09-2006, 09:38 AM
This guy could have been the prince of the football world after leading OSU to a NC his freshman year.

Instead he looks like a guy who is trying to keep his street credibility any way he can. What a sad sad man.

NaptownChief
08-09-2006, 09:40 AM
That probably rules him out for this year, I guess.

Anyone have any idea as to how this might affect his status for '07? I just keep thinking this kid has a comeback in him.


Considering he wasn't good enough that Denver was even willing to put him on the practice squad right after spending a 3rd round pick on him it is fair to say with all this baggage this kid won't be getting any other chances in the NFL.

Jason in LA
08-09-2006, 09:41 AM
I don't ever want to hear Kellow Winslow claim that he's a soilder. Not after Clarrett goes Rambo.

Chances are Rambo was headed to Ohio St., then to the NFL league offices, then to the Broncos front office.

DomCasual
08-09-2006, 09:43 AM
Considering he wasn't good enough that Denver was even willing to put him on the practice squad right after spending a 3rd round pick on him it is fair to say with all this baggage this kid won't be getting any other chances in the NFL.
Man, you're crazy! Did you see him at Ohio State? Kid's got tools! I see him as an eventual 10,000 yard rusher in the NFL.

Florida_Bronco
08-09-2006, 09:49 AM
Man, you're crazy! Did you see him at Ohio State? Kid's got tools! I see him as an eventual 10,000 yard rusher in the NFL.

I hope to God that you are kidding.

WolfpackGuy
08-09-2006, 09:49 AM
The only teams that would be able to take fliers on him are the Bengals and Browns for home games during the day. I'm sure he's not going to be allowed to leave the state of Ohio or be out after dark with the probation he'll be getting. LOL

Barry Ramey
08-09-2006, 09:52 AM
Clarrett needs to be checked into a hospital since it's clear he has severe mental issues and if not addressed soon, well, the worst of things can happen to him and anyone who happens to be around him.

DomCasual
08-09-2006, 09:55 AM
I hope to God that you are kidding.
It just occurred to me, too, that this kid has basically one season of big-time college football behind him. He just might be able to play until he's 40, especially since he will get some rest in prison.

15,000 yards, is what I'm saying.

OrangeDoofus
08-09-2006, 10:18 AM
Wow.

So apparently it's not just the Bengals -- any football player who gets within 200 miles of Cincinnati just starts committing crimes.

baja
08-09-2006, 10:20 AM
Maybe that illegal U turn was a break for the citizens of the area. He could have been on his way to going postal on some folks what with the arsenal and bullet proof vest.

bendog
08-09-2006, 10:51 AM
Maybe he was hoping for a tryout with the Bengels, but logically decided taking some personal protection with him when meeting his potential teammates would be wise.

C130Herkload
08-09-2006, 11:10 AM
http://chicago.comcastsportsnet.com/images/content/national/clarett224.jpg

Waste. of. sperm.

Man-Goblin
08-09-2006, 11:23 AM
I can't take credit for this one, but I heard that, apparently, Clarett was on his way to steal another national championship game.

-Slap-
08-09-2006, 11:39 AM
Clarett is, perhaps, one of the saddest downfalls in sports history...IMO alongside Mike Tyson.
Tyson did exactly what he set out to do.

toad
08-09-2006, 11:51 AM
Maybe that illegal U turn was a break for the citizens of the area. He could have been on his way to going postal on some folks what with the arsenal and bullet proof vest.

That's what I thought...

Tredici
08-09-2006, 11:52 AM
Tyson did exactly what he set out to do.

Very few children can ever grow up and realize their dream of being an ear eater.

Clockwork Orange
08-09-2006, 11:56 AM
Some men you just can't reach......

illini2187
08-09-2006, 12:09 PM
ESPN Magazines Tom Friend was just interviewed on ESPNEWS. Friend was close with Clarett since his year at OSU. Friend said he hadn't talked to Clarett for about a year until last night around 11 p.m. Clarett called Friend. Friend said he sounded emotionally unstable. He figured he was just stressed about his upcoming court date. Friend then asked where Clarett was headed and Clarett said "Thats for me to know, and you to find out.' God who knows what would have happened, very scary to think about.

footstepsfrom#27
08-09-2006, 12:12 PM
If you're wearing body armor and packing an arsenal of illegal weapons while out on bond awaiting trial for...WEAPONS AND ROBBERY CHARGES...and you MAKE AN ILLEGAL U-TURN...

You need to go away just for being to stupid to live...

watermock
08-09-2006, 12:13 PM
I'm not apologist, but he obviously had a death wish. This is so pathetic I can't help but have twinge of sympathy and hope he gets help. He had to be super high on coke or meth to pull such a stunt.

Denver even gave him a shot...he threw it all away...having a flask on the sidelines sealed his deal. He's obviously suicidal and has a drug parnoia. That is just crazy ****.

Popps
08-09-2006, 12:23 PM
He obviously is mentally ill.

He's just keeping it real.

rovolution
08-09-2006, 01:01 PM
Its just sad. The kid could have been something special, but he threw it away. At this point, theres no point in saying nasty things about him. No reason to kick a man who is already on the ground.

Greybeard
08-09-2006, 01:14 PM
I hope to God that you are kidding.
Well, it's obvious Clarett's NFL career, brief as it was, is over . . . utterly.

But the kid had talent on top of talent.

Damn. What a waste. :moody:

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-Slap-
08-09-2006, 01:18 PM
Some people will do anything to avoid success.

broncosteven
08-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Its just sad. The kid could have been something special, but he threw it away. At this point, theres no point in saying nasty things about him. No reason to kick a man who is already on the ground.


When a "man" goes around wearing a bullet proof vest & has automatic wepons in his car & it is apparent that he was going to kill people I think it is ok to kick the piece of **** all you want.

Hooray for law enforcement being on the ball on the traffic stop!

rovolution
08-09-2006, 01:59 PM
When a "man" goes around wearing a bullet proof vest & has automatic wepons in his car & it is apparent that he was going to kill people I think it is ok to kick the piece of **** all you want.

Hooray for law enforcement being on the ball on the traffic stop!


I think you misinterpreted what i was saying but oh well. What will your insults against Clarett do now? Make you feel better? The man has fallen so low its just sad. Justice catches up with everyone eventually. I can't believe people go and do stupid things like Clarett did and not expect a backlash. I personally think it is a cry for attention, and the man needs phsycological help.

Jason in LA
08-09-2006, 02:07 PM
We could look at this a different way. Maybe he wasn't going to go on a Grand Theft Auto shooting spree. Maybe somebody was out to get him. I'm pretty sure he's stepped on a number of toes, and he's probably been dealing with some shady people. Doesn't excuse him, but I just throwing that out there.

broncosteven
08-09-2006, 02:18 PM
I think you misinterpreted what i was saying but oh well. What will your insults against Clarett do now? Make you feel better? The man has fallen so low its just sad. Justice catches up with everyone eventually. I can't believe people go and do stupid things like Clarett did and not expect a backlash. I personally think it is a cry for attention, and the man needs phsycological help.


I didn't insult the POS, I think it is OK to kick a 3 time loser though. He had his 2nd chance. If I ever did anything stupid I hope I get a second chance that offered to pay me millions.

I can see your point but 3 strikes is a lot. It is hard to hug a guy holding an AK-47. He has to want to change his way of life. When he does then people should stop kicking him. To forgive this last incident is TOO Freaking much. Let him rot in jail & let him be the butt of all jokes until he decides to join cons for jesus or something.

Arkansas Bronco
08-09-2006, 02:46 PM
He was just on his way to try out for the Bungles.

Raiders Rock
08-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Typical Donkey Scum

Rock Chalk
08-09-2006, 03:04 PM
Uh...why was this numbskull not rotting behind bars instead of roaming the land free and easy with a bell tower kit in his car?

Bail bond...what a great system.
Might have something to do with that whole "innocent until proven guilty" clause of our judicial system.

Yeah, ****ty part of our system that is [/sarcasm]

NYBronc
08-09-2006, 03:05 PM
Typical Donkey Scum

Coming from a fan of the team who employed Barret Robbins

<SIZE=-3><i>stay tuned for the coming "i don't talk to n00bs" whine.

DomCasual
08-09-2006, 03:25 PM
In all seriousness, I feel sorry for Clarett. He was just woefully unprepared for all the early success. And you have to figure that everyone around him up until the time he was about 20 basically just told him what he wanted to hear, so he had no concept of right and wrong. Then he just made a few bad decisions, which snowballed into more bad decisions, and now he is looking at spending a good deal of time in prison. Just a sad, sad story.

The one positive about this is that he was stopped from doing whatever it was he was on his way to do. As bad as things will get for him for the next while, at least he won't end up with a needle in his arm over it.

Garcia Bronco
08-09-2006, 04:02 PM
Jim Brown is so classy, he threw one woman out of a second floor window and served time in jail for beating another woman.


He didn't throw a woman out a window. The woman that fell out of the window said he didn't throw her out. I saw it two says ago on HBO

Garcia Bronco
08-09-2006, 04:03 PM
I don't feel sorry for him. He knows right from wrong. Have a good time in jail...convict.

-Slap-
08-09-2006, 04:07 PM
He didn't throw a woman out a window. He the woman that fell out of the window siad he didn't throw her out. I saw it two says ago on HBO
Yeah, and that was water Maurice was drinking in the weight room.

NYBronc
08-09-2006, 04:08 PM
<A HREF="http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=5826">Team Reacts to News About Clarett</A>

Broncos players reached out to Maurice Clarett when he was with the team, Head Coach Mike Shanahan said, but Clarett didn't reach back.
By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- At this time last summer, Maurice Clarett was in the midst of an ultimately unsuccessful attempt to make the Broncos roster.

Wednesday morning, as the Broncos rolled onward in this year's training camp, Clarett found himself in an Ohio jail, arrested on charges of carrying a concealed weapon following an overnight car chase.

Two time zones away, the status of the one-time Bronco was a topic of discussion among players as they went through the work of their 12th day of this year's training camp.

"If that did happen, it's very unfortunate," wide receiver Rod Smith said. "Hopefully it hasn't gotten to that point where he feels he has to go out and try to hurt somebody. I don't know. It's sad, but I'm sure it's (more sad) for his family, because he made the decision to do it."

"He's got some heavy issues," Head Coach Mike Shanahan said following the morning practice. "It's just a shame that this has happened to a guy that (had) so much promise and so much ability. I'm not sure what happened to him, but it's a real shame."

Clarett's four-month tenure in Denver was defined by a nagging injury in training camp, his inability to take part in even one snap during the preseason games and his unwillingness to reach back when his new teammates offered warm, welcoming hands and counsel to the former Ohio State tailback.

"We tried to reach him quite a bit when he was here," Shanahan said. "One thing he did have here was a lot of support from our veterans, and our players tried to really take care of this guy and he wanted no part of it, and that was one of the reasons why he didn't make our football team.

"I don't think I've ever been around a bunch of guys (who) reached out to a guy more than Maurice, trying to help him, and (having) a guy not wanting that help."

Similar sentiments were offered in January after Clarett turned himself in on an unrelated charge, also in Columbus.

"It's hard to build a relationship when you're not on the field or really not sociable in this locker room. It's hard not to be, but that's how he was, but that was that," linebacker Keith Burns said in January.

Wednesday's news disappointed many Broncos, including safety Nick Ferguson.

"I was one of the one guys who really had somewhat of a decent relationship with him and talked to him on a consistent basis. The first time he left camp I was asked to kind of use that relationship to find out what was going on. But it just seems like the young man is troubled."

Added Shanahan: "As we all know, everybody's got issues. You try to help people through those issues, except that he was one of the few players that we've had that really didn't want to be helped."

Garcia Bronco
08-09-2006, 04:12 PM
Yeah, and that was water Maurice was drinking in the weight room.


Well...you need to take that up with the woman. She straight up said that he didn't do what you just accused him of doing. Sorry dude.

DomCasual
08-09-2006, 04:20 PM
I don't feel sorry for him. He knows right from wrong. Have a good time in jail...convict.
I can understand that sentiment. I think I am just more developed than you, from a perspective of compassion. :welcome:

Seriously, I can understand that sentiment. But I don't think any of us can relate to the circumstances. The kid was a god during his teens - a stud in high school and college. I remember reading a cover story about him in ESPN Magazine when he was at Ohio State. I had a business associate that was a big Ohio State fan, and I remember saying to him, "Man, that guy is football Jesus!"

It seems like when someone told him something critical of him, he just stopped listening to that person. I think a lot of kids would do that in that situation. Kids don't like to hear about cause and effect - they want to do whatever they want. The stakes just happened to be higher when Clarett started experiencing, first-hand, cause and effect in his life, and he just got lost. That's not to say he isn't culpable of his current situation. But I think there are some mitigating circumstances that at least make him worthy of some compassion.

Of course, said compassion and a couple bucks will buy him a pack of cigarettes when he is in prison.

-Slap-
08-09-2006, 04:27 PM
Well...you need to take that up with the woman. She straight up said that he didn't do what you just accused him of doing. Sorry dude.
You can take it up with the LAPD because he was arrested and booked for it. I'll take their word over a 22 year old woman who was in fear of her life if she pressed charges.

Jim Brown - woman beater. (http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00014125.html)

But for all of Brown's good deeds and athletic prowess, there has been a dark side to him, too. He was frequently accused of violent crimes, primarily toward women, and though he was not found guilty, they have hurt his image.

An 18-year-old accused Brown of forcing her to have sex after giving her whisky, but a jury found him innocent of assault and battery in the 10-day trial in 1965. He was accused of throwing a model from a balcony in 1968, but when the 22-year-old woman refused to name Brown as her assailant, the charge of assault with intent to murder was dropped.

He was acquitted of assaulting a man after a traffic accident in 1969. He was fined $500 and spent a day in jail after beating up a golfing partner. He was charged with rape, sexual battery and assault in 1985, but the charges were dropped when the 33-year-old woman gave inconsistent testimony. The next year he was arrested for allegedly beating his fiancée after accusing her of flirting. He spent three hours in jail, but three days later the 21-year-old woman said she didn't want to prosecute.

In 1999, Brown was convicted in Los Angeles of smashing the window of his 25-year-old wife Monique's car, but was acquitted of making terrorist threats against her. The judge sentenced him to three years' probation, stripped him of his driver's license for a year, and ordered him to attend special counseling for domestic batterers.

watermock
08-09-2006, 04:28 PM
Sounds like they tried to reach out and he shunned everyone. I wonder where in the hell he thought he was going. I'm speculating, but it sounds like meth/coke pychosis/delusion.

You don't arm yourself like that and put on a vest if you planned on making it back. I don't know if he planned on doint a Texas Tower at OSU or rob a band or what. I'm just glad noone was killed.

Florida_Bronco
08-09-2006, 04:39 PM
Typical Donkey Scum

Keep it up and I'll have you outnumbered by Bronco fans on your own website by the end of the week.

Garcia Bronco
08-09-2006, 04:50 PM
You can take it up with the LAPD because he was arrested and booked for it. I'll take their word over a 22 year old woman who was in fear of her life if she pressed charges.

Jim Brown - woman beater. (http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00014125.html)


So your beacon of crediabilty is the LAPD...I think we're done here. And that wasn't the same incident. He did smash the windows...he didn't beat the woman...she also said so.

rovolution
08-09-2006, 04:57 PM
So your beacon of crediabilty is the LAPD...I think we're done here.

Yea. I stopped trusting the LAPD after Rodney King.

Garcia Bronco
08-09-2006, 05:50 PM
I can understand that sentiment. I think I am just more developed than you, from a perspective of compassion. :welcome:

Seriously, I can understand that sentiment. But I don't think any of us can relate to the circumstances. The kid was a god during his teens - a stud in high school and college. I remember reading a cover story about him in ESPN Magazine when he was at Ohio State. I had a business associate that was a big Ohio State fan, and I remember saying to him, "Man, that guy is football Jesus!"

It seems like when someone told him something critical of him, he just stopped listening to that person. I think a lot of kids would do that in that situation. Kids don't like to hear about cause and effect - they want to do whatever they want. The stakes just happened to be higher when Clarett started experiencing, first-hand, cause and effect in his life, and he just got lost. That's not to say he isn't culpable of his current situation. But I think there are some mitigating circumstances that at least make him worthy of some compassion.

Of course, said compassion and a couple bucks will buy him a pack of cigarettes when he is in prison.

He was a known criminal before he left OSU. He's had every opportunity most will never get in their respective professions. Feel compassion for him all you want, but he's done this to himself and has no one else to blame.

baja
08-09-2006, 06:01 PM
So your beacon of crediabilty is the LAPD...I think we're done here. And that wasn't the same incident. He did smash the windows...he didn't beat the woman...she also said so.

So all 23 women that "fell" out of second story windows that were alone in the room with jim brown when it happened said brown did not do it?

rovolution
08-09-2006, 09:54 PM
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I Knew Maurice Clarett..A BlackSportsOnline Exclusive
Written Robert Littal
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I knew Maurice Clarett, not knew him like we played Madden every weekend and went to the strip club afterwards, but I know him well enough that if I walked into the jail cell he is in right now, he would recognize me. By now you already know what happen today, the guns, the vodka, the bulletproof vest, the taser and the mace. You have probably seen the video and wondered how someone that seemed to have the world in his hands, has fallen so far, so hard and so quickly. Let me provide you with some answers.

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To understand how this all started we have to go back to 2001, when I was still a junior at The Ohio State University and a year before Clarett would make his arrival on campus. If you have never lived in Ohio, you cannot understand the passion that these people have for sports and specifically for Ohio State. It is like a religion to them, something that has to be experienced and cannot be expressed in words.

That is the year when people started to hear about the two messiahs of high school athletics Maurice Clarett and Lebron James. Knowing what you know now, you would assume that Lebron was a lot bigger than Clarett, but that wasn’t the case. In fact Clarett in the state of Ohio was far more popular than Lebron at that time. As a high school senior he was already being thought of as the next Archie Griffin. I remember a specific incident when I was in a club in Columbus and a then 17 year Clarett enter the club (a 21 and over club at that) and the music stop and the DJ announced the arrival of:

“THE MAN WHO IS GOING TO LEAD OHIO STATE TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP”.

At 17 years old Clarett was already receiving special treatment. You name it he was provided it, money, cars, women, etc etc. This isn’t unusual for gifted youngsters, but if you were around Clarett like I was from time to time you could see that it was having an effect on him and not in a positive way. He felt entitled, he felt untouchable and he started to believe his own hype. When he finally stepped on the practice field at OSU he snapped at coaches and upperclassmen and no one did anything because he was the savior, as the DJ said he was going to lead the Buckeyes to the National Championship.

I can pinpoint when I knew that things were going to turn out bad for Clarett. It was the day that Lebron James appeared on ESPN for a High School basketball game. That national exposure leapfrogged Lebron over Clarett. You want to know why Clarett wanted to enter the NFL so bad, it was because he wanted to get the shine and love that Lebron was getting.

No one ever told Clarett no to anything and that includes Ohio State coach Jim Tressel. The year that the Buckeyes won the Championship Clarett had so many indiscretions that even those who follow the Buckeye program and know how dirty it is was amazed at the things that he was getting away with. Total insubornation on so many levels against coaching staff and the administration, if he was any other player he would have been kicked off the team and out of the University. He was never disciplined and if anything he was coddled to the point that his belief that he was untouchable only grew greater.

Believe me when I tell you Clarett could have been a great running back. Forget what you saw at the NFL combine, but go back to his freshman year at OSU and what you saw was a powerful back with great hands that never went down on initial contact and had great vision. Once again his problem though was his sense of entitlement because even going back to high school he had a “lazy” label. He never felt like he had to prove anything and he never had the desire to get better, he just assume because he was Maurice Clarett and everyone told him he was great that he was. No matter what you think of Clarett now, the one fact that no one can take away from him is that he was the reason that Ohio State won the national championship. They don’t sniff the championship without him during the season and they lose the game against Miami if he doesn’t strip Sean Taylor after Taylor intercepts a pass.

The worst thing that ever happened to Clarett was winning that National Championship because as soon as he held the trophy Ohio State had maxed out their use for him. Ohio State was the pimp and Clarett was the prostitute and once the prostitute had given them what they wanted, they felt no need to protect him anymore.

This was a shocking revelation to Clarett that when the NCAA started sniffing around that the school put the blame on him, for so long he always had someone taken bullets for him that when it came time to defend himself he didn’t know how. After the National Championship he was an afterthought, he had done his job and people had moved on. Instead of this being a reality check for Clarett it actually made things worst since he surrounded himself with people that were “yes-men” who were only interested in seeing how much money they could get off of him.

When he challenged the NFL Draft Rules I was a big supporter of his, but not because I thought it was good for him, but because I didn’t think it was a good rule. I hoped that he would humble himself go to a D-1AA school grow up and learn that everything in life isn’t handed to you on a silver platter.

It didn’t happen that way though, after being shot down by the courts, Clarett had one last opportunity when he selected in the 3rd round of the NFL Draft by the Denver Broncos. At the press conference he was all smiles, telling the media he would do anything even special teams to make the team. At the time I was extremely happy for him even though the majority of the problems he put on himself, he did get jerked around by Ohio State and I thought this would be a great opportunity on a team that is great for a running back, but in retrospect I should have known it was going to turn out bad.

The reason why is simply, since I first heard his name uttered 5 years ago he has felt like he was entitled to be great and what happen in the draft only reinforced what had been his problem for so long. Even though he had been a screw up in high school, a screw up in college, a screw up in the legal system, a screw up with the media, a screw up with the police and a screw up in the NFL Draft process (quitting at the combine after running a slow 40 time) he still got drafted in the first day of the NFL Draft.

Of course he was destine to fail with the Broncos because no lesson had ever been learn, but a pattern had been set. After things didn’t go his way and he wasn’t anointed the starter on the first day, he reverted back to the same Clarett I have known since he was in high school. To show his arrogance or stupidity depending on how you look at, he arrogantly asked for his release for a better opportunity. Of course he thought he was going to get a better opportunity because his whole life no matter how much he screwed up his constantly kept getting opportunities, then something happen to Clarett that never happened before.

NO ONE CALLED

For the first time in his life no one was there to give him that next opportunity, no one was there to tell him how was great he was and no one was there to hold his hand and tell him everything was going to be alright.

I want you to think about this for your minute, for your whole life you have been told that you were the “gifted” one and then one day you wake up and realize you are just like everyone else. You are not special, you are not entitled and you have to work hard just to live a day by day. Imagine what that can do to someone who is not that emotionally stable to begin with.

It is so ironic that he and Lebron have such similar backgrounds growing up and both receive the same adulation as youngsters only to turn out so different. It is shocking how one could turn out so great while the other could turn out so wrong. I am not big into religion, but I am going to pray for Maurice because whatever demons he is dealing with it I hope he is able to exercise them.

Hopefully this gives you some insight into how someone like Clarett can fall so hard, so fast. No one knows what Clarett was intending to do with those guns this morning, but let me tell you that I am glad the police got to him when they did because if they didn’t this story would have had an even more tragic ending.

TDmvp
08-09-2006, 10:11 PM
Early reports suggest that Clarett intended to use a witness list obtained by his lawyers to track down and threaten or eliminate witnesses involved in his ongoing robbery charges.


he was picked up within miles of witnesses house
this guys nutzo...

footstepsfrom#27
08-09-2006, 10:13 PM
Might have something to do with that whole "innocent until proven guilty" clause of our judicial system.

Yeah, ****ty part of our system that is [/sarcasm]
Uh-Huh...is there something in that concept that precludes keeping some of these idiots under lock and key till they get their day in court? Especially the crazy ones that commit felonies with guns?

shakenbake
08-09-2006, 11:14 PM
This probably doesn't deserve its own new thread but it is a real interesting read on Clarett.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=2545078
Clarett's call came two hours before arrest
By Tom Friend
ESPN The Magazine

On possibly his last night as a free man, Maurice Clarett was calling on the telephone. I hadn't seen him or heard from him in a year, not since the Denver Broncos kicked him to the curb, but I was on his list Tuesday night. Along with Jim Tressel and LeBron James and some arena football coach. His list of thank-yous.

I looked at the clock when he called, and it was just past 11 p.m. ET. He told me he was driving somewhere, and along the way his cell phone cut in and out. He wasn't loud or belligerent. Instead he seemed melancholy and possibly drunk.


Clarett was arrested near the home of a witness set to testify against him in a separate robbery case, the Franklin County prosecutor said.
He started in with his news: He was a daddy. His girlfriend, Ashley, had given birth to a baby girl on July 17 and he claimed it had changed his life. "F--- Ohio State, f--- winning the national championship, it's more cool having her,'' he was saying. He said he'd cry a lot when he held her, and that just the other day in his mom's house, he'd cried four times holding her the same afternoon. He said he'd do anything for that little girl, that he'd go to jail for 30 years for this little girl. It wasn't clear what he meant, although it's starting to get clearer now.

I asked him how he was, and he said he was growing up, taking responsibility for what he'd done. He admitted "money used to be everything'' to him and he said, "Look how cocky I used to be. Life lessons have put me on my ass.'' I'd heard this sort of rhetoric before, from almost every troubled athlete I'd ever interviewed, but then he got me. He got me when he said he wanted to dump his whole story on me, when he said "I haven't done s---. I have done nothing but f------ run a football. Don't confuse yourself. I've done nothing but run a f------ football. Don't try to make it bigger than it is.''

He started in then with his thank-yous. I had written a column in ESPN The Magazine last January, after his initial arrest on burglary charges, outlining his potential drinking problem, steroid problem and self-esteem problem. He said he'd hated that story, that he'd hated me, but he was calling now to thank me, for waking him up to reality. He said he'd been calling a lot of people that day, that he'd called Tressel -- the same coach he'd once accused of giving him cars and grades -- and thanked him, too.

Tressel had reached out to Clarett months before, having asked Buckeyes QB Troy Smith for Clarett's cell phone number. They had talked, and Tressel had offered to do all he could for him, and now -- late Tuesday night -- Clarett was saying, "Me and [Tressel] have become cool again. I was talking to Jim Tressel earlier, and said, 'Thank you for being real.' He's been real to me, and I've been real to myself. I don't run from nothing anymore.''

He said he'd also called his old high school buddy LeBron James that day -- who knows if it's true, considering LeBron's playing ball overseas -- and that there were more calls to make. It was almost midnight ET by then, but now Clarett was starting to ramble, starting to sound a little skittish, a little paranoid.

He wondered if someone was overhearing the conversation, if someone might be listening. Was he being followed?

Who knew Clarett had an assault rifle with him the whole time? Or a 9mm gun between his legs? Or that he had a hatchet? Who knew the next morning I'd wake up and hear he was under custody on alleged weapons charges, that he'd been Maced and tasered, that he'd been wearing a bulletproof vest, that he'd probably been wearing it as we spoke?

His lawyer Mike Hoague came out Wednesday and said that Clarett has recently received death threats, verbal and written, and, suddenly, his pattern of behavior all seemed to make more sense. The people who know him say he's been alternately strong and unstable recently, that the stress of his court case and his baby girl and his uncertain future have him all over the emotional map.

Does someone really want to hurt him? Is someone bugging his phone? Or is he just delusional? Whichever, you've got to go back to last year, to the mess of Los Angeles.

After Ohio State booted him out of school, he went to L.A., where he befriended members of the rap community, manager types. They liked Clarett; he had an easy giggle, and a face they'd seen in the Fiesta Bowl end zone. He was their ticket to the world of sports, and they were his ticket to a lush lifestyle. Hell, he was broke, and they were driving BMWs and living in beachfront property. This was right up Clarett's alley.

He was one of these kids who'd always looked for shortcuts. His mom, Michelle, had worked long hours at a Youngstown Sears, just to support her family, but he found out early that football brought him all the love and cash he could handle. A caterer named Bobby Dellimuti provided a car, and other amenities, and soon, according to Clarett, Ohio State coaches and boosters had done the same. Clarett wasn't too proud to have his hand out. It's who he was.

But, in L.A., it was the last thing he needed. He was spotted driving a 745 BMW and living in a mansion, when he should've been training for the NFL. The people in the rap world were sponsoring him, figuring he'd bring them back millions after he went in the first round, but what did they know? Did they know his 40 time?

The first trainer they hooked him up with, in the fall of 2004, was Chad Ikei, out of Arizona. Clarett was 256 pounds by then. A two-hundred-and-fifty-six-pound tailback! And he had the most peculiar work habits. He wanted Ikei to clear the gym out before he worked out. He wanted no one watching him, no one judging him. His insecurity was mind-boggling.

shakenbake
08-09-2006, 11:18 PM
I'm usally not one to be critical of Shanny and the Front Office, but how could they not know about this guy. If a reporter can find out about his work ethic, quiting on trainers when pushed, and the crowd he was hanging out with why didn't they ?

That said it sounds like things are pretty messed up in his life. I think someone in the other thread said that i could be somebody is after him to collect on his un paid debt.

DomCasual
08-10-2006, 12:42 AM
An interesting excerpt from the ESPN article:

By the 2005 NFL Combine, Clarett was too slow to turn any heads, and his only blessing was that Broncos Coach Mike Shanahan was arrogant enough to think he could save him. Shanahan thinks the system makes the back, instead of vice versa, and so he picked Clarett in the third round and found out the hard way.

The minute Clarett arrived in Denver, they began to sour on him. At the airport, before flying from Colorado to the rookie symposium, he frantically called the Broncos, saying he'd left a brief case in his airport limo. But there was no brief case in there, just a water bag he always carried around. That's all right, he said, he wanted it.

He would take that water bottle everywhere, including the Bronco weight room, and the team started getting suspicious when, before minicamp practices, he'd grab the bottle and say, "I gotta get my Goose on.'' It wasn't a joke; the Bronco players were convinced he was chugging Grey Goose.

There was another incident at the team hotel, where he was accused of allegedly making sexual comments toward a guest. He denied it, but it didn't help that he had also begun alienating members of the Broncos staff. That summer, after minicamp, he had missed a weight lifting session with the team's strength coach of 11 years, Rich Tuten, and he and Tuten had then engaged in a profane shouting match. Offended by it, Clarett marched into GM Ted Sundquist's office and demanded that Tuten be fired. When Sundquist refused, Clarett -- who hadn't even signed a rookie contract yet -- asked to be traded.

By this point, the Broncos were wary of him. They offered Clarett a $416,000 signing bonus, but only if the contract had default language. But Clarett, against the advice of Clarett's former agents, Steve Feldman and Josh Luchs, turned it down. Feldman and Luchs -- who now, as agents for Gersh Sports, represent the new Bronco star rookie RB Mike Bell -- implored Clarett to take the signing bonus, but Clarett wanted to replace it with an incentive package that would pay him first-round money if he rushed for 1,000 yards in multiple seasons. It was his ego talking. Clarett even wanted Pro Bowl language. It was a reach, and if he got cut, he wouldn't see a penny. Obviously, the Broncos agreed to the deal. And when he spent 18 days nursing a groin injury, they cut him. He never carried the ball in a preseason game.

Taco John
08-10-2006, 01:26 AM
I'm usally not one to be critical of Shanny and the Front Office, but how could they not know about this guy. If a reporter can find out about his work ethic, quiting on trainers when pushed, and the crowd he was hanging out with why didn't they ?

That said it sounds like things are pretty messed up in his life. I think someone in the other thread said that i could be somebody is after him to collect on his un paid debt.



Didn't you read the article. It was because Shanahan was arrogant. Case closed, am I right? ::)

baja
08-10-2006, 01:31 AM
Clarett was Bobby Turner's project.

He asked for and Shanny gave the 3 pick to Turner, God knows he has earned a flier.

Taco John
08-10-2006, 01:33 AM
It was a free pick...

If it was our only pick, I'd have been upset. But it was a free pick. Well worth the risk.

Sometimes risks pan out.

baja
08-10-2006, 01:37 AM
It was a free pick...

If it was our only pick, I'd have been upset. But it was a free pick. Well worth the risk.

<b>Sometimes risks pan out.</b>

Ya just look at the OM ;D

After reading the articles on MC I think he was a victim of the insanity of collage sports in this country.

Taco John
08-10-2006, 01:47 AM
I think he was the victim of some world class immaturity.

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 01:51 AM
So your beacon of crediabilty is the LAPD...I think we're done here. And that wasn't the same incident. He did smash the windows...he didn't beat the woman...she also said so.
Oh, did I get one of the half a dozen times Jim Brown got arrested for violence against women confused there? Sorry about that.

baja
08-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Showered with gifts, women fawning over him, adults praising him and dubbing him saviour, surrounded by suck ups telling him he is a God. Very very difficult for a kid to transcend.

I say college sports is the disease and Maurice Clarett is the symptom.

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 02:02 AM
It was a free pick...

If it was our only pick, I'd have been upset. But it was a free pick. Well worth the risk.

Sometimes risks pan out.
They don't pan out nearly enough to make it worthwhile.

Who were the four biggest character risk gambles in the Shanahan era?

Dale Carter - Unmitigated disaster.

Chet McGlockton - Solid player.

Daryl Gardener - Unmitigated disaster.

Maurice Clarett - A third rounder, and apparently, we got off easy. I'm glad he wasn't here long enough to put anyone from the organization on his little Andrew Cunnanan style hit list.

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 02:10 AM
Showered with gifts, women fawning over him, adults praising him and dubbing him saviour, surrounded by suck ups telling him he is a God. Very very difficult for a kid to transcend.

I say college sports is the disease and Maurice Clarett is the symptom.
Sudden fame (or money) anywhere can mess people up, especially young people. Athletes, movie stars, musicians, hotshot executives in various industries. Some people can deal with it and some cannot. Some become self destructive, for a million and one reasons, both internal and external.

Obviously, college sports has its flaws, but Maurice Clarett was probably going to end up badly because of something inside Maurice Clarett. That likely would have happened if he never even picked up a football.

GreatBronco16
08-10-2006, 02:21 AM
As awful as this will sound, I'm still waiting for the race card to come out in this.

baja
08-10-2006, 02:39 AM
Sudden fame (or money) anywhere can mess people up, especially young people. Athletes, movie stars, musicians, hotshot executives in various industries. Some people can deal with it and some cannot. Some become self destructive, for a million and one reasons, both internal and external.

Obviously, college sports has its flaws, but Maurice Clarett was probably going to end up badly because of something inside Maurice Clarett. That likely would have happened if he never even picked up a football.

Clearly it is a case by case thing but the bottom line is we place way too high a value on gifted athletes to the point of inflicting physiological damage in many cases. We all find flavor clowns (love that phrase) distastfull but we have collectively created them.

if TO were a bag boy he most likely would not speak of himself in the third person.

it's impossible to say is Clarett would have crashed and burned had he not had a gift to lug a football.

Northman
08-10-2006, 03:28 AM
I cant wait for the excuses about how Maurice was never given a chance blah blah blah. Cant believe so many people thought he would succeed when we drafted him. I saw this **** coming a mile away.

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 06:27 AM
Clearly it is a case by case thing but the bottom line is we place way too high a value on gifted athletes to the point of inflicting physiological damage in many cases. We all find flavor clowns (love that phrase) distastfull but we have collectively created them.

if TO were a bag boy he most likely would not speak of himself in the third person.

it's impossible to say is Clarett would have crashed and burned had he not had a gift to lug a football.
We place way too high a value on celebrities in general in this culture. Be they athletes, actors or CEOs.

Beantown Bronco
08-10-2006, 06:31 AM
For me....the most surprising part of this whole thing isn't the guns, the vest, or his overall behavior.....it's the fact that Clarett was caught driving a freakin' Hyundai Santa Fe. Looks like Plummer lost his title of "worst ride."

ol number 7
08-10-2006, 07:14 AM
Some people will do anything to avoid success.

Don't fumble the soap like you did the rock in Denver. At least he gets to see
Theee Ohio State on TV every Saturday for the next ten years or so.
Whoa Nelly Michigan -Ohio St. with a plate of grissle and creamed corn. :wiggle:

Raiders Rock
08-10-2006, 07:52 AM
This guy makes D Russell look like a choir boy

SportinOne
08-10-2006, 07:53 AM
The only thing i need now, is for someone to photoshop either Ice Cube's face onto Clarett's body wearing the chronic hat, or Clarett's face on an Ice Cube body, holding an AK or a blunt, or both.

SportinOne
08-10-2006, 07:59 AM
Oh shoot, hey... Be right back guys, i gotta go get my 'Goose on.

DomCasual
08-10-2006, 10:36 AM
For me....the most surprising part of this whole thing isn't the guns, the vest, or his overall behavior.....it's the fact that Clarett was caught driving a freakin' Hyundai Santa Fe. Looks like Plummer lost his title of "worst ride."
What? You obviously have no taste! Those flared fenders are a technological innovation. I can't believe they got rid of them.

Tell me that this car doesn't just speak to you. What's it say? "Quality! Durability! Luxury!"

http://media.dealerskins.com/carspecs2002/Photos/JATOColor400/HYUNDAI%5CSANTA%20FE%5C2006%5C5ODNU.jpg

Hogan11
08-10-2006, 10:39 AM
I can't believe anyone....anyone cares about this creep anymore......let him rot.

PatsWin2002
08-10-2006, 10:42 AM
I can't believe anyone....anyone cares about this creep anymore......let him rot.

I agree. I even hesitated to post it in this forum, but figured someone would eventually.

Let everyone see it and let it fade away.........

PatsWin2002
08-10-2006, 10:45 AM
http://cbs4denver.com/sports/local_story_222115116.html

Clarett Gets $5M Bond For Weapons Charge

By Matt Leingang, AP Writer
(AP) COLUMBUS, Ohio Maurice Clarett's bond on a charge of carrying a concealed weapon was set at $5 million Thursday, a day after the former Ohio State running back was arrested following a chase with police and four loaded guns were found in his sport utility vehicle.

Prosecutors had asked Franklin County Municipal Judge Andrea Peeples for a bond for Clarett of at least $1 million.
<img hspace="5" vspace="5" align="right" src="http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_221163035/lg">
"We feel he's a threat to the community," assistant prosecutor Chris Brown said.

Clarett, wearing a jail-issue tan jumpsuit, stood motionless and expressionless against the wall next to his lawyer during the arraignment. He did not say anything and was not asked anything by the judge.

Clarett's attorney, Nick Mango, said the $5 million bond was excessive. He would not speculate on why the guns were in the SUV Clarett was driving.

"We're very confident that there was no intent to harm anyone," he said.

Peeples said she set the bond so high because Clarett fled police. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Aug. 18.

Clarett's latest run-in with the law began when police noticed an SUV driving erratically in the early morning hours Wednesday. A highway chase ensued, ending when police spiked Clarett's tires, sending his vehicle limping into a restaurant parking lot.

Officers said they could not easily subdue Clarett because the bulletproof vest he was wearing thwarted their stun guns. It took several police using pepper spray to get the 6-foot, 245-pounder into handcuffs.

He continued to struggle even as he was taken away, kicking at the doors of the transport vehicle, police said. Officers also secured a cloth mask over Clarett's mouth after they say he spat at them.

On Wednesday, prosecutors asked a judge to keep him in jail and revoke his bond on an earlier robbery charge.

They said they were concerned that Clarett was driving with the guns only a few blocks from the home of a woman who was set to testify against him next week in an alleged robbery outside a Columbus bar.

His bond in that case was raised to $1.1 million Wednesday after he was jailed on the new weapon and traffic charges, and Mango said that amount would likely be too high for Clarett to pay, meaning he would stay in jail for the duration of the robbery trial, which starts Monday.

Police said more charges are possible, and federal agents said they are eyeing whether Clarett violated federal gun laws that prohibit having a firearm while under indictment.

As a freshman, Clarett scored the winning touchdown in the second overtime of the Fiesta Bowl against Miami to lead Ohio State to the 2002 national championship, the school's first since 1968.

Clarett was suspended for the 2003 season, the year after he led the Buckeyes to a national championship, because he was charged with falsifying a police report.

He dropped out of school, then sued unsuccessfully to be included in the 2004 NFL draft. He was a surprise third-round pick in the 2005 draft but was cut by the Denver Broncos during the preseason.

He plans to play for the Mahoning Valley Hitmen, one of five teams in the Eastern Indoor Football League. The team, based in Youngstown, is to begin play in January.

NaptownChief
08-10-2006, 10:45 AM
If Bobby Turner vouches for him will they take that instead of the $5million bond?

bendog
08-10-2006, 10:58 AM
I wouldn't put Clarett in with Carter, Turf Tit and IHOP. Clarett's just a flier draft pick. Bell the Younger, and it's even.

I understood the Carter thing. Going for the three-peat. If Carter plays man as he was capable of doing, Robinson's blitzes are even better. As I recall Robinson still put him in zone most of the time, but that's another story. Going for a three-peat, I can see the gamble was worth it.

Turf Tit didn't have much cap hit, as I recall, but maybe i'm wrong. I know Lett had little cap hit, and he played ok ... for an idiot with one knee.

The IHOP signing ... I was pissed.

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 11:00 AM
He continued to struggle even as he was taken away, kicking at the doors of the transport vehicle, police said. Officers also secured a cloth mask over Clarett's mouth after they say he spat at them.

He's lucky he's quasi-famous or he would have had cops waiting for his ass at the station house.

KipCorrington25
08-10-2006, 11:07 AM
This guy makes D Russell look like a choir boy

Yeah, good thing he was in camp for a month, was paid peanuts, and then dumped, instead of being a cornerstone of the DL for 5 years.

DomCasual
08-10-2006, 11:08 AM
If Bobby Turner vouches for him will they take that instead of the $5million bond?
You have a completely valid point about that pick being a disaster. I often ponder this: if that pick had been used on a player that actually contributed last year, would the Broncos have won the division by more than three games? Maybe they could have rested their starters starting in week 12?

Makes you think, wouldn't you say?

baja
08-10-2006, 11:19 AM
He's lucky he's quasi-famous or he would have had cops waiting for his ass at the station house.

if you look closely at his face in the pic pats whine posted it looks like the rubber hosed him pretty good which is pretty much a given if you spit at cops.

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_221163035/lg

Rock Chalk
08-10-2006, 11:19 AM
Why is this thread on the main forum?

Shouldnt this be in offtopics since its just talking about some guy who broke the law?

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 11:31 AM
if you look closely at his face in the pic pats whine posted it looks like the rubber hosed him pretty good which is pretty much a given if you spit at cops.

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_221163035/lg
They should have beaten him five times worse and then locked him up with the resident Booty Bandit.

baja
08-10-2006, 11:37 AM
They should have beaten him five times worse and then locked him up with the resident Booty Bandit.

Not that it will make anyone a better person for it but i am sure Mr. Clarett got himself a real good beating.

If his his face is bruised his body is one swollen lump, they only hit the face on the occasions when the miss the body.

PatsWin2002
08-10-2006, 11:43 AM
if you look closely at his face in the pic pats whine posted......



I demand a retraction! Ha!

Sounds like a nickname one of the Raider fans would've given me. 8')

baja
08-10-2006, 11:46 AM
I demand a retraction! Ha!

Sounds like a nickname one of the Raider fans would've given me. 8')

Sorry couldn't resist. ;D

bendog
08-10-2006, 12:10 PM
I'm starting to wonder if the lad has some mental health issue. Bad Claret not boob, I mean. I know Boob's either a closet bronco fan having sport or a sad pathtic little man whose live is made a living hell someone like Danny Devito in taxi. I figured it was a wasted pick, but hey, it was a loser pick anyway, so why not take a flier. Like when you're at the track, and there's one race where you like absolutely no horse, or there's one horse that should obviously win, but you suspect the jockies will get together and pick one "slightly longshot" to take the wire. But you just have to have the action, so you close your eyes and pick one for two bucks.

Anyway, that thing with the vest was just too wierd. Maybe he's gonna rob a bank, but if you're doing that - alone - you don't take the hardware. It's more than being a dumb criminal with Claret.

Someone asked about how about had shanny not "wasted" the pick. The slot the pick was in sucked. There wasn't anyone who really shined. I think he just had Claret on his list of shots in the dark. Here's the link to the draft, look at the guys 5-10 slots after him. I remember going "take antonio perkins!" But obviously shanny had a plan on the cornerback position. I think he's got the nack so long as he doesn't pick them in the first round. LOL

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/breakdowns/by_round/4.html

Pick Six
08-10-2006, 12:17 PM
Why is this thread on the main forum?

Shouldnt this be in offtopics since its just talking about some guy who broke the law?

agreed...He's just a loser...:loser:

NYBronc
08-10-2006, 12:31 PM
I'm starting to wonder if the lad has some mental health issue. Bad Claret not boob, I mean. I know Boob's either a closet bronco fan having sport or a sad pathtic little man whose live is made a living hell someone like Danny Devito in taxi. I figured it was a wasted pick, but hey, it was a loser pick anyway, so why not take a flier. Like when you're at the track, and there's one race where you like absolutely no horse, or there's one horse that should obviously win, but you suspect the jockies will get together and pick one "slightly longshot" to take the wire. But you just have to have the action, so you close your eyes and pick one for two bucks.

Anyway, that thing with the vest was just too wierd. Maybe he's gonna rob a bank, but if you're doing that - alone - you don't take the hardware. It's more than being a dumb criminal with Claret.

Someone asked about how about had shanny not "wasted" the pick. The slot the pick was in sucked. There wasn't anyone who really shined. I think he just had Claret on his list of shots in the dark. Here's the link to the draft, look at the guys 5-10 slots after him. I remember going "take antonio perkins!" But obviously shanny had a plan on the cornerback position. I think he's got the nack so long as he doesn't pick them in the first round. LOL

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/breakdowns/by_round/4.html

Marion Barber or Chris Canty would have been nice.

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 01:25 PM
Big Brandon Jacobs was the back we should have drafted with that pick.

bendog
08-10-2006, 01:48 PM
I didn't see much in Canty at the time. I'd seen guys dropping off the board earlier in the 3rd and had sinking spell. In retrospect, I never expected a RB, as I thought the team was already stronger than it had been at the end of the season, so I didn't really look at Barbor, or don't remember doing so.

KipCorrington25
08-10-2006, 01:56 PM
Have Boob and Clarett ever been seen in the same place at the same time? That whole Pillsbury Doughboy in a Holmes jersey look might just be a clever disguise...

Think about it...

:strong:

baja
08-10-2006, 03:45 PM
Have Boob and Clarett ever been seen in the same place at the same time? That whole Pillsbury Doughboy in a Holmes jersey look might just be a clever disguise...

Think about it...

:strong:

Nope Kip, there is no way Boob could have loaded 4 guns in a row without accidentally shooting himself.

TomServo
08-10-2006, 03:46 PM
some things or people just cant be helped. mc not only had a ticket to running back heaven(denver broncos), he was in the gates and still opted out.
when people wonder what goes on in his head i always think "im Maurice Clarett , Bitch"

baja
08-10-2006, 03:47 PM
Then again that may be why he was wearing the bullet proof vest....

-Slap-
08-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Story I heard today. Apparently, when Mo landed in Denver the first time, he called someone from the organization to come pick him up. On the way back from the airport, Mo tells them they have to turn around and go back because he left his bag. Its turns out what he left on the plane wasn't his bag, but his "water bottle". Yes, the same Grey Goose filled water bottle they eventually confiscated in the weight room. From what I hear, that water bottle went everywhere with him, including out the door.

The best part of all this, the part I love the most, remember how Mo turned down the $416,000 signing bonus Denver offered him? He instead opted for incentive clauses that would kick in when he was named to the All Pro team or won the MVP award.

freak6
08-10-2006, 04:11 PM
I read that part to Slap, he even said "I gotta get my Goose on" while lifting in the Broncos weight room. Then tried to get our strength coach Rick Tuten fired...lmfao!!!!

He was on roids too.

In other news, Lendale White has been endearing himself to his teammates by hucking loogies on them after the play, starting an apparent brawl.

Bronx33
08-10-2006, 04:54 PM
MC is one of the stupidest humans on the planet. :thumbs:

Raiders Rock
08-11-2006, 07:20 AM
Yeah, good thing he was in camp for a month, was paid peanuts, and then dumped, instead of being a cornerstone of the DL for 5 years.

We got a small amount more in my opinion for D Russ but... thats my opinion

Maurice will probably wind up dead just like DRUSS if he continues to follow the path that he is on.


It's really a shame actually.... not even jabbing at the Donks for taking him in the 3rd

All this kid had to do was finish school, control his weight and keep his mouth shut and would have probably been a 1st rounder.

He threw it all away............


What an idiot , same with DRUSS, he was found innocent of the rape stuff, then what did he do drugs and get banned?

Then he dies... if Moc gets out of jail, don't be surprised to read about him in the obituairies soon, the kid is a train wreck

i4jelway7
08-11-2006, 10:44 AM
ok here is the real deal w/ MoC he is being pursued by a famous rap mogul who apparently wants MoC head on a platter for an un-paid "loan". Word is MoC has been receiving death threats from this rap mogul, which would explain why he was riding around w/ the bulletproof.. also he probably thinks he is safe in jail.. now I'm sure you all can figure out who the rap mogul is

NYBronc
08-11-2006, 11:29 AM
Makes sense, especially since Mo C and said mogul have had the same attorney, David Kenner.

PatsWin2002
08-11-2006, 11:43 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/more/08/11/clarett.jail.ap/?cmnn=-yes

Clarett likely to spend weekend in jail
Ex-OSU star probably won't be able to post $5 M bond

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Maurice Clarett reacted with quiet disbelief when he learned he'd likely spend the weekend in jail. The former Ohio State star running back may have an even harder time accepting what lies ahead.

Wearing the same type of tan, jail-issue jumpsuit he'd sported here once before, the former Ohio State star running back closed his eyes and softly shook his head Thursday when the judge announced his bond on a gun charge: $5 million.
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His attorney, Nick Mango, said his client would not likely be able to post it, keeping Clarett in jail at least until the start of his robbery trial Monday. Clarett has been ordered to appear in court Friday afternoon in the robbery case.

Following his bizarre and violent encounter with police early Wednesday, prosecutors had asked a judge to hold Clarett on at least $1 million bond.

"We feel he's a threat to the community," assistant prosecutor Chris Brown said.

Clarett stood against a wall next to his lawyer during Thursday's arraignment, didn't say anything and wasn't addressed by the judge.

Mango would not speculate on why four loaded guns -- including an assault rifle -- were in the SUV Clarett was driving early Wednesday.

"We're very confident that there was no intent to harm anyone," Mango said.

Prosecutors initially asked the judge to hold Clarett without bond, in part because he had been driving just a few blocks from the home of a woman scheduled to testify against him in his robbery trial. In that case, witnesses said Clarett flashed a gun and robbed them of a cell phone behind a Columbus nightclub earlier this year.

Franklin County Municipal Judge Andrea Peeples said she set the bond so high because the 22-year-old Clarett attempted to flee police. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Aug. 18.

In the robbery case, Common Pleas Judge David Fais ordered Clarett to appear in court Friday, but did not tell his attorneys what issue would be addressed.

"My sense is that the judge was going to inquire as to whether the defense intended to file a request for a psychological evaluation of our client, Mr. Clarett, which we do not intend to do," attorney Michael Hoague said.

After Clarett's arrest on Wednesday, his lawyers expressed concern about his mental health, but Hoague said he and Mango are confident Clarett understands what is going on and will be able to assist in his defense. The attorneys don't plan to make any requests that would delay the start of the trial Monday, Hoague said.

Clarett's latest run-in with the law began when police noticed a vehicle driving erratically, beginning a highway chase that ended with police spiking the SUV's tires. Officers said they could not easily subdue Clarett because he was wearing a bulletproof vest that thwarted their stun guns.

After several police using pepper spray finally got him into handcuffs, the 6-foot, 245-pounder continued to struggle, kicking at the doors of the transport vehicle. Officers also secured a cloth mask over Clarett's mouth after they say he spat at them.

Police said more charges are possible, and federal agents said they are eyeing whether Clarett violated federal gun laws that prohibit having a firearm while under indictment.

"I feel bad for him. I think a lot of people do," said rookie linebacker A.J. Hawk of the Green Bay Packers, who arrived at Ohio State as a freshman with Clarett. "You've got to surround yourself with decent people, and I think in his case maybe he didn't do that, or took some bad advice or whatever. I don't know. Things aren't going right. Maybe this will be a wake-up call."

Clarett was in a positive mood when he spent Tuesday night in suburban Columbus with his attorneys, preparing for next week's trial, said Jon Saia, a senior partner with the law firm representing Clarett.

He made a series of cell phone calls into the night and early Wednesday morning, including one to Jim Terry, coach of Mahoning Valley Hitmen of the Eastern Indoor Football League where Clarett has plans to play in January.

Terry said Clarett, whose girlfriend recently gave birth to his premature daughter, sounded depressed on the phone, but that wasn't unusual.

"Maurice mumbles, so he sounds depressed all the time," Terry said. "We just talked about the baby, we talked about the trial and then the phone cut out."

Clarett did not call back, Terry said. Police said they attempted to stop Clarett a short time later.

As a freshman, Clarett scored the winning touchdown in the second overtime of the Fiesta Bowl against Miami to lead Ohio State to the 2002 national championship. It was the last game he played for the Buckeyes.

He was suspended for the following season after being charged with falsely reporting a theft to police. After dropping out of school, he challenged the NFL's draft eligibility rule in 2004 but lost.

The Broncos made him a surprise third-round pick the following year, but he was cut during the preseason.

rovolution
08-11-2006, 11:43 AM
ok here is the real deal w/ MoC he is being pursued by a famous rap mogul who apparently wants MoC head on a platter for an un-paid "loan". Word is MoC has been receiving death threats from this rap mogul, which would explain why he was riding around w/ the bulletproof.. also he probably thinks he is safe in jail.. now I'm sure you all can figure out who the rap mogul is

http://www.thuglifearmy.com/images/My%20Pictures/Mia%20Digital%201/Suge%20Knight%205.31.05.JPG

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-11-2006, 11:50 AM
In my book he has been renamed - Mo Ron

-Slap-
08-11-2006, 11:03 PM
Mo' Mo.

Judge orders mental evaluation for Clarett (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5865506)

RACHEL HOAG / Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Maurice Clarett was ordered Friday to have a mental health evaluation after a highway chase and violent struggle with police who caught him with four loaded guns. The former Ohio State football star insisted he is competent to stand trial in another case.

Judge David Fais delayed the trial set to begin Monday on previous charges accusing the player of holding up two people outside a bar on New Year's Day.

The events surrounding Clarett's arrest early Wednesday made the evaluation by a doctor necessary, regardless of the objections by Clarett and his attorneys, Fais said.

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5865604_36_2.jpg
A downcast Maurice Clarett
looks on Friday as a Columbus,
Ohio judge orders that he
undergo a mental health
evaluation.
(Kiichiro Sato / Associated Press)

"I clearly understand everything, and I don't know why we have to drag this thing out," said Clarett, who scoffed, smiled and rolled his head back when Fais ordered the evaluation.

Clarett, who wrote a few notes to his attorneys with his hands cuffed, said he was ready to go to trial.

Fais was concerned by Clarett's attorneys saying in published reports that they were worried about his mental health.

"It's my job," Fais said. "I have to ensure that your rights are protected."

Clarett's girlfriend, who gave birth to the couple's daughter last month, and his mother sat in the courtroom. They declined comment outside.

A delay gives Clarett time to recover from a swollen face and bruised eye from his struggle with several officers.

Fais also revoked Clarett's $1.1 million bond on the charges, meaning Clarett figures to remain in jail until the new trial starts Sept. 18.

Clarett's latest run-in with the law began when police noticed a vehicle driving erratically, prompting a highway chase that ended with police spiking the SUV's tires. Officers said they could not easily subdue Clarett because he was wearing a bulletproof vest that thwarted their stun guns.

After police using pepper spray finally got him into handcuffs, the 6-foot, 245-pounder continued to struggle, kicking at the doors of the transport vehicle. Officers also put a cloth mask over Clarett's mouth after they say he spat at them.

Clarett was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and a traffic violation, and police said more charges are possible. Bond on those charges was set at $5 million, which Clarett's attorneys said he most likely would not be able to pay.

He was driving a few blocks from the home of a woman scheduled to testify against him in his robbery trial. In that case, witnesses said Clarett flashed a gun and robbed them of a cell phone behind a Columbus nightclub.

Fais said he thought allowing time to pass between the highway chase and Clarett's trial on the robbery charges would be beneficial. The delay also will give the court more time to draw the larger jury pool that will be necessary to find impartial people because of the publicity surrounding the case, he said.

Prosecutors supported the decision for the evaluation. Defense attorneys twice objected to the order, saying they were confident Clarett was competent.

"We do not wish to see these proceedings continued at all," attorney Michael Hoague told the judge.

The evaluation could have been done over the weekend to avoid delaying the trial, Hoague said afterward.

"Instead of having the possibility of being acquitted this time next week, he'll be in jail," he said.

As a freshman, Clarett scored the winning touchdown in the second overtime of the Fiesta Bowl against Miami to lead Ohio State to the 2002 national championship. It was the last game he played for the Buckeyes.

He was suspended for the following season after being charged with falsely reporting a theft to police.

Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said Clarett called him a couple times this week, including once the day before his arrest. Tressel didn't get the calls and left Clarett a voice mail, but the two never spoke.

"I didn't get a chance to connect with him recently, but absolutely - he's in my thoughts," Tressel said.

Clarett alleged in a 2004 news article that Tressel or his staff arranged for him to get passing grades, cars and money for bogus summer jobs.

Clarett provides a "teaching moment" for other players, Tressel said.

"When you review in your mind the conversations you've had and the lessons you've tried to share, yes, anytime we don't succeed, whether socially or academically, if someone doesn't make it, or if we don't succeed athletically, it's disappointing," he said.

After dropping out of school, he unsuccessfully challenged the NFL's draft eligibility rule in 2004. The Broncos made him a surprise third-round pick the following year, but he was cut during preseason.

Killericon
08-11-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm curious as to why this thread even exsists.

-Slap-
08-11-2006, 11:49 PM
I'm curious as to why this thread even exsists.
Well, you must have some theories.

ol number 7
08-12-2006, 06:12 AM
Clarett is, perhaps, one of the saddest downfalls in sports history...IMO alongside Mike Tyson.
Lets not forget O.J. The white Bronco as well as the glove. To bad Johnny Cockroach died as he would have had a field day with this guy.
Clarrett is ghetto and is more comfortable in his quest to get to the big house "PRISON" than he is on the outside with us normal folk.Must have found something he liked in the showers at Ohio State .

watermock
08-12-2006, 06:30 AM
MC is one of the stupidest humans on the planet. :thumbs:

He's obviously got an idiot lawyer to boot. The Judge ordered a mental evaluation which is obviously the correct thing to do and a major break for him honestly. But his lawyer objected. WTF? Like he was going to beat the rap! I'm always amused at the mental illness defense because I would guesstimate that most convicts are mentally ill anyway. The fact that he was lurking around the woman due to testify against him is pretty damn scary. This could of easily wound up as a tragedy. I hope they took a blood test for meth/coke. His behavior certainly would indicate a paranoid speed freak. I'm just glad that they caught him before he went postal on someone or people. He's damn lucky he's not laying in the morgue with a hole in his forehead. I've always been amused at the resisting arrest syndrome. When your arrested, it's over. Your not going to pull a Dillinger in this day and age. Bundy was pretty crafty tho.

SouthStndJunkie
08-17-2006, 06:51 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2553084

Lawyer: Clarett has ties to alleged Israeli mobster


Waknine provided Clarett with cash, a BMW, bodyguards, drivers and beachfront lodging in Malibu, with the understanding that he would be reimbursed and receive 60 percent of Clarett's rookie contract.

That makes sense.....Clarett did not want a signing bonus when he signed his rookie deal.

Garcia Bronco
08-17-2006, 06:53 PM
Maurice maurice...what's you gonna do...what's ya gonna do when they come for you.

Elway 4 Life
08-18-2006, 03:05 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5884666?FSO1&ATT=HMA

This kid continues to impress me with his ability to screw off such talent.

KipCorrington25
08-18-2006, 03:06 PM
I searched the Broncos all time roster and I didn't find this guy listed anywhere.

Dagmar
08-18-2006, 03:27 PM
:deadhorse ::) :stirstir: :nono:

Arkansas Bronco
08-18-2006, 03:30 PM
I searched the Broncos all time roster and I didn't find this guy listed anywhere.
I remember the dude he was just camp fodder.

DenverFanMan6
08-18-2006, 04:02 PM
marice clarett could have possibly had those guns because there was a hit out for him ??? post what u think
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5884666?FSO1&ATT=HMA

ludo21
08-18-2006, 04:05 PM
He is still an idiot.

HILife
08-18-2006, 04:07 PM
That's really sad. Seems like everything is just going wrong for him.

Raiders Rock
08-19-2006, 12:14 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2553084

Typical Donkey Scum

BroncoBuff
08-19-2006, 12:20 PM
What about some story that Clarett's best friend was killed/died the week of the Fiesta Bowl, and Ohio State wouldn't let him go home for the funeral? APacino would know ... supposedly Clarett was never the same guy after that ...

I heard this on Sandy Clough on 950 The Fan ... I was streaming it Friday morning.

They also had Tom Nalen in a radio interview! I didn't think they did those thiongs, but it was Nalen. Some of the nuggets Nails mentioned:

- "No comment" on the QB situation, but he loves Jake
- He doesn't think he's a HOF candidate ...
- If Zimmerman isn't in the Hall, why even have a Hall?
- He plans - right now - to play out the 3-year contract
- Lepsis listens to Coldplay on his i-Pod
- If not football, he wanted to go into law enforcement, FBI hopefully
- He only re-signed because he thinks this team can go back and win another Lombardi. He doesn't need the $$

ol number 7
08-19-2006, 01:28 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5884666?FSO1&ATT=HMA

This kid continues to impress me with his ability to screw off such talent.
If your afraid of the mob then why do you run from the police, resist arrest and spit on the cops and kick the doors in the squad car. Say thank you and protect me. That's what the car says to serve and protect. Does he owe mobsters Probably! Will they ever see that money NOPE !!

baja
08-19-2006, 01:54 PM
"Serve and Protect" is that like the "Clean Air Act" or no "No Child Left Behind"

FADERPROOF
08-19-2006, 01:55 PM
I'm heartbroken.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-19-2006, 02:05 PM
Good to see you around Fader - Hope you are around all season. But change the Avatar.

SoCalBronco
08-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Hi Pat, great to see ya. Where the hell have you been?

NOLA Bronco
08-19-2006, 04:44 PM
I wil have to say - I did not see the Clarrett connection to the Israeli Mob coming....

BTW - looking at Broncos Buffs post - why is Nalen speaking at all?

BroncoBuff
08-19-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm heartbroken.
Long time no see Fader ... hey, Buckeye faithful, you or APacino must know the story behind Clarett's best chidlhood friend getting killed or something ? ? while he was at the Fiesta Bowl ? ?

On 950 TheFan yesterday they said he was never the same because they didn't let him go back for the funeral. That was the beginning of the end or something - above: http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1232877#post1232877

I'd sure like to hear that story.

Atlas
08-19-2006, 10:45 PM
What about some story that Clarett's best friend was killed/died the week of the Fiesta Bowl, and Ohio State wouldn't let him go home for the funeral? APacino would know ... supposedly Clarett was never the same guy after that ...

I heard this on Sandy Clough on 950 The Fan ... I was streaming it Friday morning.

They also had Tom Nalen in a radio interview! I didn't think they did those thiongs, but it was Nalen. Some of the nuggets Nails mentioned:

- "No comment" on the QB situation, but he loves Jake
- He doesn't think he's a HOF candidate ...
- If Zimmerman isn't in the Hall, why even have a Hall?
- He plans - right now - to play out the 3-year contract
- Lepsis listens to Coldplay on his i-Pod
- If not football, he wanted to go into law enforcement, FBI hopefully
- He only re-signed because he thinks this team can go back and win another Lombardi. He doesn't need the $$

FBI huh? Isn't Keith Bishop in the FBI now??

I guess as retired Broncos they love busting former Raider players after their careers are over.

Atlas
08-19-2006, 10:45 PM
What about some story that Clarett's best friend was killed/died the week of the Fiesta Bowl, and Ohio State wouldn't let him go home for the funeral? APacino would know ... supposedly Clarett was never the same guy after that ...

I heard this on Sandy Clough on 950 The Fan ... I was streaming it Friday morning.

They also had Tom Nalen in a radio interview! I didn't think they did those thiongs, but it was Nalen. Some of the nuggets Nails mentioned:

- "No comment" on the QB situation, but he loves Jake
- He doesn't think he's a HOF candidate ...
- If Zimmerman isn't in the Hall, why even have a Hall?
- He plans - right now - to play out the 3-year contract
- Lepsis listens to Coldplay on his i-Pod
- If not football, he wanted to go into law enforcement, FBI hopefully
- He only re-signed because he thinks this team can go back and win another Lombardi. He doesn't need the $$

FBI huh? Isn't Keith Bishop in the FBI now??

I guess as retired Broncos they love busting former Raider players after their careers are over.

Atlas
08-19-2006, 11:27 PM
I didn't know where to put this good article but it mentions Clarret so this is as good as any.

Athletes need to prepare for life after sport

SoCals link: http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149190071427&path=!sports!punch&s=1045855935482

PAUL WOODY
TIMES-DISPATCH COLUMNIST Aug 20, 2006


Call Paul Woody at (804) 649-6444 or e-mail him at pwoody @timesdispatch.com
"Fiery Scenes of Seduction" is the title of a book of poems written by Kerry Carter.

Thousands of books of poetry have been written, but what sets this one apart is that Carter is a pro football player.

Or rather, he was a pro football player.

Carter was attempting to earn a roster spot with the Washington Redskins when he suffered a season-ending, and probably career-ending, knee injury last Sunday.

Carter is in better shape than most athletes for life after football.

He already has a degree from Stanford, a fledgling acting career, his published book and a clothing business.

He might not be able to make ends meet simply from his writing, though. As of Friday, his 128-page book of poems ranked 499,709th on Amazon's sales list.




That's not as bad as it sounds. A week earlier, Carter's book sales had no ranking on Amazon.

Carter is the latest example of the fragility of an athlete's career. When the ligaments in Carter's knee collapsed, he hadn't even been hit. He simply planted his foot in the artificial surface of Paul Brown Stadium, and his knee caved in.

He will have surgery, courtesy of the Redskins, the team that cut him Tuesday. Coach Joe Gibbs expressed his sadness that things had worked out as they had.

Soon, hundreds of young players will be cut from the 32 NFL teams. Most will be anonymous performers who once were stars in high school and college who soon will be out of work.

It's easy to lose sight of just what is at stake. The lowest paid member of an NFL team earns $235,000 per season. Jobs that pay as well are difficult to find in the real world.

Making the transition more difficult is that so many of these young men have been trained to be nothing but football players.

This is why academic integrity at colleges and universities is so important.

For every Kerry Carter equipped with a degree from one of the elite institutions in the world, there are hundreds of young players who are short, sometimes surprisingly far short, of earning a degree.

An even larger problem is that some who have degrees were pushed through classes in an ambiguous major, leaving them prepared to do little other than run, block or tackle.

The value of a player's eligibility almost always will trump the value of a player's education, and that is not just in football.

Wise athletes prepare for the day when they no longer are athletes. The problem is that even wise young athletes have a difficult time realizing their mortality.

No better example of that exists than Maurice Clarett. Few have squandered the trove of opportunities available more thoroughly or more publicly than Clarett. He blew an opportunity at Ohio State and practically was disdainful of the second chance offered him by the Denver Broncos.

Clarett will no longer be remembered as the freshman running back who scored the game-winning touchdown for the Buckeyes against Miami in the Bowl Championship Series title game Jan. 3, 2003.

Instead, he will be remembered as the former football player who was arrested wearing a bullet-proof vest and carrying four loaded guns and a hatchet. And, for comic relief, it will be noted that when he resisted arrest and was shot with a Taser, the Taser did not work because Clarett was wearing the bullet-proof vest.

Clarett's downfall is a cautionary tale.

Thousands of young athletes see themselves as sure-fire college stars and eventual NFL millionaires.

Few realize that dream. Not all of them end up in jail with futures as dismal as the one facing Clarett. But too few of them are as prepared for life after football as Carter.

Every college athlete does not need to be a poet. But every college athlete needs to think about life outside of his sport. And he needs to realize that the ultimate responsibility for his education resides not with the coach, the system or the school but with himself.

bronco militia
09-19-2013, 01:28 PM
Maurice Clarett ✔ @ReeseClarett13

@Browns can I get a workout? I still have plenty of mileage on these legs..!!!!!!
5:17 PM - 18 Sep 2013

Maurice Clarett ✔ @ReeseClarett13

@Browns I had behavior problems that I cleaned up. Never had playing problems.
5:35 PM - 18 Sep 2013

R8R H8R
09-19-2013, 01:37 PM
Maurice Clarett ✔ @ReeseClarett13

@Browns can I get a workout? I still have plenty of mileage on these legs..!!!!!!
5:17 PM - 18 Sep 2013

Maurice Clarett ✔ @ReeseClarett13

@Browns I had behavior problems that I cleaned up. Never had playing problems.
5:35 PM - 18 Sep 2013

LOL

shanananananahan
09-19-2013, 01:40 PM
Well that's depressing.

stagger lee
09-19-2013, 01:55 PM
Ouch.

cmhargrove
09-25-2014, 11:36 AM
My youngest son is a junior and playing high school football here in Tulsa. For some reason, they have been having great luck with special "drop in" guests at their practices. Earlier this year, Steve Largent came to watch their practice aned gave them a really cool "work hard an follow your dreams" speech after practice. Pretty cool.

Just got back in town and was asking my son about practice this week and he told me they had a special guest come to speak to them Wednesday. He said it was a famous running back kid from Ohio State that played for the Broncos then messed up really bad, went to prison, and was now getting his life back together (he was actually speaking at a local church that evening). Anyway, I said - "it wouldn't happen to be Maurice Clarett, would it?" Sure enough. After that, the team watched the "30 for 30" special and saw his story.

My son said he was a nice, down to earth guy and he really sounded like he is trying to get his life back together. Hopefully, he can find a way to make a positive difference.

strafen
09-25-2014, 11:42 AM
My youngest son is a junior and playing high school football here in Tulsa. For some reason, they have been having great luck with special "drop in" guests at their practices. Earlier this year, Steve Largent came to watch their practice aned gave them a really cool "work hard an follow your dreams" speech after practice. Pretty cool.

Just got back in town and was asking my son about practice this week and he told me they had a special guest come to speak to them Wednesday. He said it was a famous running back kid from Ohio State that played for the Broncos then messed up really bad, went to prison, and was now getting his life back together (he was actually speaking at a local church that evening). Anyway, I said - "it wouldn't happen to be Maurice Clarett, would it?" Sure enough. After that, the team watched the "30 for 30" special and saw his story.

My son said he was a nice, down to earth guy and he really sounded like he is trying to get his life back together. Hopefully, he can find a way to make a positive difference.
Let's bring him in for a look.
Can he run the ball?

cmhargrove
09-25-2014, 11:49 AM
Let's bring him in for a look.
Can he run the ball?

It's really pretty funny. I have a 350lb son playing Guard for Oklahoma State who obviously has the size and talent. However, my youngest son (190lb junior) has been fighting with his two older brothers all his life and has certainly developed his "youngest brother" toughness. If I really had to say it, I would have to say my youngest has the best positional blocking technique. He routinely stonewalls 300lb nose tackles and i just sit in the stands and laugh. He's like my own little sub-200 pound Tom Nalen.

PRBronco
09-25-2014, 11:50 AM
It's really pretty funny. I have a 350lb son playing Guard for Oklahoma State who obviously has the size and talent. However, my youngest son (190lb junior) has been fighting with his two older brothers all his life and has certainly developed his "youngest brother" toughness. If I really had to say it, I would have to say my youngest has the best positional blocking technique. He routinely stonewalls 300lb nose tackles and i just sit in the stands and laugh. He's like my own little sub-200 pound Tom Nalen.

I'm sold!

Also, look at all the Atlas posts in here!

TheReverend
09-25-2014, 12:19 PM
It's really pretty funny. I have a 350lb son playing Guard for Oklahoma State who obviously has the size and talent. However, my youngest son (190lb junior) has been fighting with his two older brothers all his life and has certainly developed his "youngest brother" toughness. If I really had to say it, I would have to say my youngest has the best positional blocking technique. He routinely stonewalls 300lb nose tackles and i just sit in the stands and laugh. He's like my own little sub-200 pound Tom Nalen.

Get your youngest off the offensive line and into linebacker asap!

strafen
09-25-2014, 12:34 PM
It's really pretty funny. I have a 350lb son playing Guard for Oklahoma State who obviously has the size and talent. However, my youngest son (190lb junior) has been fighting with his two older brothers all his life and has certainly developed his "youngest brother" toughness. If I really had to say it, I would have to say my youngest has the best positional blocking technique. He routinely stonewalls 300lb nose tackles and i just sit in the stands and laugh. He's like my own little sub-200 pound Tom Nalen.On a serious note.
Congrats!
I wish you guys all the best luck in the world...

cmhargrove
09-25-2014, 02:22 PM
Get your youngest off the offensive line and into linebacker asap!

Funny story, he was practicing all summer at 9 technique OLB (which he was doing great at). The team had two big kids 260-280 playing center but they were having issues with bad snaps. All three of my boys have also doubled as long snappers (I always tried to convince them this was the perfect college meal ticket), so they threw my son in there for competition. His snaps were perfect, and he was actually physically stronger than the fatties ahead of him. Also, he is fast enough to play safety / receiver, so his downfield blocks were textbook. So, now he has become their indispensible center, and he doesn't care as long as he is playing and having fun.

So, if I were his coach I would have him at TE, Slot WR, OLB, or Safety, but hey, he's having fun and he loves him some pancakes!

pricejj
09-25-2014, 05:14 PM
I heard a radio interview with Clarett a couple weeks ago. He's an entrepreneur now and motivational speaker. He has a good message.

Focus on reality, don't focus on what's not real.

Guess Who
09-25-2014, 05:20 PM
blast from the past!!!

bombay
09-25-2014, 05:22 PM
The guy had problems, but ohio st treated him badly.

gunns
09-25-2014, 07:57 PM
I'm sold!

Also, look at all the Atlas posts in here!

And Slap.

Vegas_Bronco
09-25-2014, 08:52 PM
My youngest son is a junior and playing high school football here in Tulsa. For some reason, they have been having great luck with special "drop in" guests at their practices. Earlier this year, Steve Largent came to watch their practice aned gave them a really cool "work hard an follow your dreams" speech after practice. Pretty cool.

Just got back in town and was asking my son about practice this week and he told me they had a special guest come to speak to them Wednesday. He said it was a famous running back kid from Ohio State that played for the Broncos then messed up really bad, went to prison, and was now getting his life back together (he was actually speaking at a local church that evening). Anyway, I said - "it wouldn't happen to be Maurice Clarett, would it?" Sure enough. After that, the team watched the "30 for 30" special and saw his story.

My son said he was a nice, down to earth guy and he really sounded like he is trying to get his life back together. Hopefully, he can find a way to make a positive difference.

Which school does your son play for? I have family at Jenks.

Kaylore
09-25-2014, 09:07 PM
Patswin still posts on Patriots Planet. It's like the non-demented Patriots forum.

cmhargrove
09-26-2014, 07:19 AM
Which school does your son play for? I have family at Jenks.

My boys have all played for a "down" program at Tulsa Edison. They just finished a two year stint in 6A and got rolled by Jenks both years. Jenks is a powerhouse program with a massive budget and an incredible feeder program. Anyway, when I used to coach my kids in middle school, we could beat the Jenks teams, but in high school they just have too much talent, conditioning, and coaching - great program. The funny thing is, percentage wise, they don't send a ton of guys to D1 programs. They aren't always physical freaks, just in excellent condition in an excellent program. It's fun to watch Jenks and Union battle it out every year.

TheReverend
09-26-2014, 08:21 AM
Funny story, he was practicing all summer at 9 technique OLB (which he was doing great at). The team had two big kids 260-280 playing center but they were having issues with bad snaps. All three of my boys have also doubled as long snappers (I always tried to convince them this was the perfect college meal ticket), so they threw my son in there for competition. His snaps were perfect, and he was actually physically stronger than the fatties ahead of him. Also, he is fast enough to play safety / receiver, so his downfield blocks were textbook. So, now he has become their indispensible center, and he doesn't care as long as he is playing and having fun.

So, if I were his coach I would have him at TE, Slot WR, OLB, or Safety, but hey, he's having fun and he loves him some pancakes!

He should ask the coach to play both ways. Does he have the conditioning for it?

You could save more money on college with him at OLB, but with your oldest you already know that Ha!