Another WR down, Maybe ATL interested in Lelie?

[JCMElway]

The Lelie bit is speculation, Finneran being carted off is fact.

Falcons' Finneran carted off field
Peter King, SI.com

Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Brian Finneran, who was expected to be Michael Vick's most reliable target in an inexperienced receiving corps, went down with a knee injury at the team's evening practice Sunday.

The severity of the injury was not immediately known, but Finneran was carted off the field in pain as concerned teammates and coaches looked on. Coach Jim Mora was expected to discuss the seriousness of the injury immediately after the team's practice.

The loss off Finneran would be a devastating one for the Falcons because neophyte receivers Roddy White and Michael Jenkins have not established themselves as NFL regulars.

Finneran, a 6-5, 217-pound, eight-year veteran from Villanova, was Vick's security blanket among his wideouts, and if he's not available, it's likely the Falctons will rely even more heavily on Pro Bowl tight end Algie Crumpler to carry the load.

Finneran played in all 16 games last season with seven starts and ranked second on the team with 50 catches and 611 receiving yards.

[eddie mac]

Lelie for Abraham.LOL

[ward63]

Lelie would kind of work in their passing system. Having Vick roll out and just throw the ball down the field(or run). But the thing is, they already have a speed WR in Roddy White and Michael Jenkins.

[Clockwork Orange]

But the thing is, they already have a speed WR in Roddy White and Michael Jenkins.

Exactly. Lelie would be pretty redundant with the Falcons. What they need is a possession receiver type, not another deep threat.

[MechanicalBull]

They definitley could use another WR but I think they are content to go with White and Jenkins. I think i remember hearing that they really like White. Maybe we can revisit the Duckett deal.

[ICON]

Finneran may be lost for season

By STEVE WYCHE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 07/30/06

Flowery Branch — Brian Finneran, the Falcons' top pass-catching wide receiver, could be lost for the season after suffering a "serious" knee injury during practice Sunday night.

Finneran, who had 50 receptions for 611 yards and two touchdowns last season, will undergo an MRI exam Monday morning, but the initial prognosis — though not identified — is not promising, coach Jim Mora said.

"Sometimes you plant and your knee gives," Mora said. "It looks like it's serious. I'm hoping for the best because he's obviously a critical part of this football team. We'll hope for the best but I'm not overly optimistic."

Finneran injured his knee in a non-contact passing drill, his knee giving way as he tried to make a cut.

The seven-year veteran, who made the roster as an undrafted free agent and is the No. 3 wide receiver, re-signed for three years with the Falcons this summer.

Mora said the personnel department is already exploring free agent options to bring in but salary-cap issues could limit the choices. In the short term, Jerome Pathon will be used as the third wide out. Rookie Adam Jennings will also get a shot to move into a more important role.

http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/falcons/stories/0731finneran.html

[Kaylore]

This is probably what Lelie's agent was anticipating - some team thin at wide receiver getting injured and consequently getting desperate. There aren't a lot of players on the Falcons team that I'd be interested in. Maybe a second round pick.

[Atlas]

This is probably what Lelie's agent was anticipating - some team thin at wide receiver getting injured and consequently getting desperate. There aren't a lot of players on the Falcons team that I'd be interested in. Maybe a second round pick.

I would take DT Rod Coleman for Lelie in a heart beat.

[No1BroncoFan]

Lelie and a case of his favorite tampons to Atlanta for a six pack and a ham sandwich. Sounds fair to me.

Ben

[ward63]

This is probably what Lelie's agent was anticipating - some team thin at wide receiver getting injured and consequently getting desperate. There aren't a lot of players on the Falcons team that I'd be interested in. Maybe a second round pick.

If we could get a 2nd rounder for his biatch ass, I'll take that:wiggle:

[Gcver2ver3]

I wonder what jersey number duckett is gonna take?

[Garcia Bronco]

This sucks...I always take Finneran as wide receiver in FF hopeing he'll break and he never does....wow...now what am I going to do?!?!

[ward63]

This sucks...I always take Finneran as wide receiver in FF hopeing he'll break and he never does....wow...now what am I going to do?!?!

I always pull for Finneran too!

[DarkHorse30]

I would take DT Rod Coleman for Lelie in a heart beat.

Word. Hilarious to me that Oakland dumped Coleman for Sapp.

[Ballhawk]

Atlanta also made a play for Meadows, which says they are looking for a little Oline depth (zone blocking experience prefered).

[eddie mac]

Cornell Green would fit their system nicely.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Lelie and a case of his favorite tampons to Atlanta for a six pack and a ham sandwich. Sounds fair to me.

Ben
I think the ham sandwich is to over the top. We will be luck if we just get a good 6 pack or the holiday 5 pack.

[Florida_Bronco]

I would assume they have interest in Lelie, since Shanny turned down a trade for Duckett. I was never a fan of Duckett, but Shanny may want to reconsider and/or use Duckett as part of a 3 way trade.

[TotallyScrewed]

Lelie, fines and Eagles
Holding out for a trade, receiver Ashley Lelie had his fine total reach $56,000 following his missed workouts Sunday. He may have hope in the Philadelphia Eagles, who had receivers Reggie Brown (hamstring) and Todd Pinkston (Achilles tendon) lost to early injuries. Bill Williamson contributed to this report.

It appears that the plan (wait for Ash or others to re-evaluate) might have merit...

[Orange_Beard]

CNN Rumors:
The Broncos have held initial discussions with the Bears regarding a Ashley Lelie swap for disgruntled running back Thomas Jones.
-- Denver Post

[The Moops]

I think Jones is hurt; not sure how long he'll be out

[fontaine]

Hate to see other guys go down due to injury but I guess this could trigger the trade.

Can't see who we might want from Atlanta. There's no way Duckett's name should even come up. If this Scheffler guy comes along in shows signs of zone awareness and can find the soft spots in coverage to go along with his great hands and speed then maybe we might even settle for a first day pick next year.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I think Jones is hurt; not sure how long he'll be out
Yea his hammy is hurt I do believe. Adding a guy like Jones to our system would be like putting a mentos in a diet coke. I think the guy has so much potential but never has seen the right system yet and here where Orlandis Gary can hit 1k I think he could definatly be a star back.

[MechanicalBull]

I don't think Jones is hurt that bad. This is from Yahoo about Thomas Jones:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>News and Notes</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ysptblbdr2><TABLE class=ysptblclbg3 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Jul 30 Larry Mayer, of ChicagoBears.com, reports Chicago Bears RB Thomas Jones (hamstring) is making progress in his recovery from a strained hamstring, but the Bears have not set a timetable for his return to practice. "Hamstrings, you never know how long they'll take," head coach Lovie Smith said. "I just know that he's getting better each day. He's getting as much treatment as you could possibly get in a 24-hour period." Smith said once Jones is healed he will return to practice. </TD><TD vAlign=top>http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/spo/kffl_88x31.gif (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/sports/kffl/SIG=11idajbbb/*http%3A//www.kffl.com/entry/index_yahoo_news.php) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ysptblbdr2><TABLE class=ysptblclbg3 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Jul 29 MRI exam results confirmed that Jones has only a mild hamstring strain, but it's not known when he will return to practice, the team's official site reports.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Orange_Beard]

Has this guy(Jones) been in trouble with the law?

[Old Dude]

Has this guy(Jones) been in trouble with the law?

Not that I recall. I think he was originally drafted by the Cards back in 2000. Spent three years there and didn't play much. Many considered him a bust at the time. Then went to T-Bay for a year and looked better. Then signed with the Bears and has had a couple pretty good years. Almost outstanding if you consider how lousy the Bears passing game has been, and how much opposing teams were able to key on Jones.

There could be a durability issue though. He does get dinged a lot.

Big issue is that the Bears drafted Cedric Benson very high last year, and it's probably just a matter of time before Cedric becomes the #1 full time guy.

Obviously, the Bears don't want to tie up too much $$$ in Jones, and he skipped some "voluntary" workouts this year as part of contract dispute.

[tnedator]

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/15160599.htm

It remains to be seen if the Eagles' concern about WR Todd Pinkston will grow to the point that they need to make a deal. If that happens, they are far more inclined to go after Denver's WR Ashley Lelie than Oakland's WR Jerry Porter. Those are the two most dissatisfied and available receivers in the NFL. Lelie, unhappy with his contract in Denver, is holding out, and the Eagles have had at least some preliminary talks with the Broncos concerning a deal. There's almost no chance that the Eagles are going to pursue Oakland's Porter because they consider him a slot receiver.

[Florida_Bronco]

That was an interesting quote that managed to contradict itself in less than a paragraph :)

[ward63]

Just saw this on KFFL. Maybe we could get him and a mid-round pick, since they need WR help too.

Eagles | Rayburn battling for roster spot
Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:41:39 -0700
<A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/29/nfl">Philadelphia Eagles DT Sam Rayburn (http://www.kffl.com/player/6057/nfl) is fighting for a roster spot at defensive tackle, according to defensive coordinator Jim Johnson (http://www.kffl.com/player/8310/nfl).

[Pendejo]

I saw Shefter on the NFL network a few minutes ago, and he said that he expected Philly to make a serious push for Lelie in the next few days. *Paraphrased of course.*

[ward63]

I saw Shefter on the NFL network a few minutes ago, and he said that he expected Philly to make a serious push for Lelie in the next few days. *Paraphrased of course.*

Did he say what they were possibly offering?

[MechanicalBull]

"It remains to be seen if the Eagles' concern about WR Todd Pinkston will grow to the point that they need to make a deal. If that happens, they are far more inclined to go after Denver's WR Ashley Lelie than Oakland's WR Jerry Porter. Those are the two most dissatisfied and available receivers in the NFL. Lelie, unhappy with his contract in Denver, is holding out, and the Eagles have had at least some preliminary talks with the Broncos concerning a deal. There's almost no chance that the Eagles are going to pursue Oakland's Porter because they consider him a slot receiver."

Isn't Lelie mostly holding out due to not being #1 and not being used right according to him. Unless I'm wrong this is all mostly about trying to bring in TO and then trading for Walker. He's upset about not being handed the #1 spot.

[ward63]

"It remains to be seen if the Eagles' concern about WR Todd Pinkston will grow to the point that they need to make a deal. If that happens, they are far more inclined to go after Denver's WR Ashley Lelie than Oakland's WR Jerry Porter. Those are the two most dissatisfied and available receivers in the NFL. Lelie, unhappy with his contract in Denver, is holding out, and the Eagles have had at least some preliminary talks with the Broncos concerning a deal. There's almost no chance that the Eagles are going to pursue Oakland's Porter because they consider him a slot receiver."

Isn't Lelie mostly holding out due to not being #1 and not being used right according to him. Unless I'm wrong this is all mostly about trying to bring in TO and then trading for Walker. He's upset about not being handed the #1 spot.

You're correct. He wants to be a #1 and only places he'd have a possible chance in hell at is KC, Atlanta, Philly, and SF.

[baja]

The best place for lelie is KC too bad for Ashlie Shanny would never let him go there.

[Steve Sewell]

"It remains to be seen if the Eagles' concern about WR Todd Pinkston will grow to the point that they need to make a deal. If that happens, they are far more inclined to go after Denver's WR Ashley Lelie than Oakland's WR Jerry Porter. Those are the two most dissatisfied and available receivers in the NFL. Lelie, unhappy with his contract in Denver, is holding out, and the Eagles have had at least some preliminary talks with the Broncos concerning a deal. There's almost no chance that the Eagles are going to pursue Oakland's Porter because they consider him a slot receiver."

Isn't Lelie mostly holding out due to not being #1 and not being used right according to him. Unless I'm wrong this is all mostly about trying to bring in TO and then trading for Walker. He's upset about not being handed the #1 spot.
Lelie would have a legit shot as a #1 there, no? Unless they consider Reggie Brown to be their #1, but he's only in his second year...

Sounds like Philly is the most likely trade partner here.

[Steve Sewell]

The best place for lelie is KC too bad for Ashlie Shanny would never let him go there.

I'm not happy with Lelie, but that wouldn't be a very nice thing to do to the guy. At least send him to a place that has a legit shot at a SB within the next 8 years or so...I wouldn't wish KC on any player.

[baja]

I'm not happy with Lelie, but that wouldn't be a very nice thing to do to the guy. At least send him to a place that has a legit shot at a SB within the next 8 years or so...I wouldn't wish KC on any player.

ya but he would be number 1 with a bullet Isn't that what he wants. if he wanted a ring he'd be in denver's camp.

[Pendejo]

Did he say what they were possibly offering?

No. He said that the Donks had a couple of other offers, but they're not backing away from their demands. After he said that...he made the remark about Philly making a push.

[Killericon]

Lelie + 1st round pick for Patrick Kerney?

[Florida_Bronco]

Lelie + 1st round pick for Patrick Kerney?
I'd just send Lelie.

[Killericon]

I'd just send Lelie.

Yes, but they would'nt take just Lelie.

[Florida_Bronco]

Yes, but they would'nt take just Lelie.

Maybe throw in a lower pick then.

[MechanicalBull]

Lelie would have a legit shot as a #1 there, no? Unless they consider Reggie Brown to be their #1, but he's only in his second year...

Sounds like Philly is the most likely trade partner here.

Yeah I agree with you that he would have a shot to be #1 there or in Atl, I was just stating that the article said Lelie was holding out due to money which is not why he is holding out. I actually think if he does go to Philly he could be a pretty good wr with since Reid does love to pass.

[Atlas]

The best place for lelie is KC too bad for Ashlie Shanny would never let him go there.

Sure he would. Lelie for Gonzo straight up.

I'm sure if KC offered a first to Denver for Lelie they would take it.

[Vegas_Bronco]

Where is this trade that Lelie's agent was yapping about? It's been 4 days and NUTTIN!

[watermock]

I was 40% that they would get Bambi traded. I have also said that we might

If you don't think Shanahan is going to fine Lillly 14K per day your crazy. If Lilly holds out for 4 weeks he will have to pay back 460K of his 500K salary. Shanahan is being the mean foather to a unobidient son. IMO, it's not even ablut value, it's about setting an examble.

there was a very interesting conversation about Parcells when he dept repeating that "If your not going to compete, your not going to be on this football team" That is paraphrasing but it's what he said.

It obviously was a shot over the bow for T.O. This is getting funny allready. T.O throws a book out...Makes a Rap Video and and expects Parcells to roll over.

You couldn't set the stage any better. Pacells has this Frankensten forehead...I couldn't see his eyebrows. This is going to be rich. .

[Vegas_Bronco]

Adam Sheftner (NFL Network) is reporting that the Eagles will be pushing hard to acquire Lelie in the next few days. McNabb wants Lelie in Philly. I just don't know if they're willing to give what Denver wants.

[watermock]

**** them we demand a first rounder

Philly deserves a Pinkston clone.

Give me a 3rd or a DT.

[BroncoBuff]

No. He said that the Donks had a couple of other offers, but they're not backing away from their demands. After he said that...he made the remark about Philly making a push.
You're 100% right, PendejoGonzo ... but I think he went even further.

I remember Schefter saying he "expects" Philly and Denver to "wrap up" the deal within a couple of days. He also said that Donovan would love to have Lelie to stretch the field - and most interestingly to me anyway - that Lelie could become the #1 receiver in Philly.

Plus he said that the Falcons need a "posession" receiver to replace Finneran, a "security blanket" for Vick, and that Ricky Proehl and Az-Hakim are willing to come out of retirement for the job. He mentioned one other receiver too, but said Proehl had the inside track.

[wabbit]

Adam Sheftner (NFL Network) is reporting that the Eagles will be pushing hard to acquire Lelie in the next few days. McNabb wants Lelie in Philly. I just don't know if they're willing to give what Denver wants.

This is what a lot of the local beat press is saying too, although this has been in the mix since draft day.

Philly front office folks even released a statement...in May or June I think... saying they were no longer interested in Lelie...just goes to show...

Interestingly, the Broncos appear to be insisting on fairly high draft compensation (2nd-3rd Round)...even conditionally...while the Eagles are reportedly dangling a couple 'unnamed' players as their preferential compensation.

I understand that Chicago isn't out of the mix either...perhaps upping the ante, if not the urgency a bit for the Eagles.

[watermock]

Wasn't that around the time the HornHeads gave the dreaded "vote of confidence" to Mike Tice?

Maybe be could package David Terrell with Lelie to Da Bears! Maybe even throw in a Corn Cobb.

[worm]

Don't play poker with Mike.

[kamakazi_kal]

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Aug. 1, 2006


Eagles leaning toward Lelie deal?

PFW asks associate editor Jeff Reynolds for his take on the NFL’s hottest topics.

Report: Philadelphia wants to add receiver

One published report echoed an earlier broadcast report linking the Eagles and Broncos in trade talks centered around holdout WR Ashley Lelie. Lelie, in the final year of his rookie contract, failed to report for the start of training camp, as expected, as he continues to show displeasure surrounding the Broncos’ decision to add WR Javon Walker, thus making Lelie a No. 3 receiver.

PFW: Does Lelie fit the Eagles’ offense?

Reynolds: Lelie is more than a warm body and would fit right into the Eagles’ pass-happy offense. It’s news to Lelie, but he’s not lead-receiver material. His niche is running “nine” routes and getting behind the defense. With a deep threat the likes of Lelie, the Eagles could open up the running game and create the underneath attack with TEs L.J. Smith and Matt Schobel to make QB Donovan McNabb a constant threat once again. Lelie’s value varies in the minds of different personnel men. The Broncos might ask for more from the Eagles or Falcons based on those two teams’ needs for a helping set of hands. Lelie likely would start for either of those teams. Because Lelie has experience in the West Coast offense, his learning curve is greatly reduced. The catch for the Falcons is that they don’t want to sign Lelie to a long-term contract. Philadelphia might be forced to pony up the cash for a four- or five-year extension to bring Lelie on board. Reggie Brown and Todd Pinkston aren’t proven receivers in their own right, and Greg Lewis is average in every area. Brown is working through a hamstring injury but will be ready for the regular season.

[Atlas]

Report: Philadelphia wants to add receiver

One published report echoed an earlier broadcast report linking the Eagles and Broncos in trade talks centered around holdout WR Ashley Lelie. Lelie, in the final year of his rookie contract, failed to report for the start of training camp, as expected, as he continues to show displeasure surrounding the Broncos’ decision to add WR Javon Walker, thus making Lelie a No. 3 receiver.

PFW: Does Lelie fit the Eagles’ offense?

Reynolds: Lelie is more than a warm body and would fit right into the Eagles’ pass-happy offense. It’s news to Lelie, but he’s not lead-receiver material. His niche is running “nine” routes and getting behind the defense. With a deep threat the likes of Lelie, the Eagles could open up the running game and create the underneath attack with TEs L.J. Smith and Matt Schobel to make QB Donovan McNabb a constant threat once again. Lelie’s value varies in the minds of different personnel men. The Broncos might ask for more from the Eagles or Falcons based on those two teams’ needs for a helping set of hands. Lelie likely would start for either of those teams. Because Lelie has experience in the West Coast offense, his learning curve is greatly reduced. The catch for the Falcons is that they don’t want to sign Lelie to a long-term contract. Philadelphia might be forced to pony up the cash for a four- or five-year extension to bring Lelie on board. Reggie Brown and Todd Pinkston aren’t proven receivers in their own right, and Greg Lewis is average in every area. Brown is working through a hamstring injury but will be ready for the regular season.

How about Lelie for the Eagles inspirational and lockerroom leader Hugh Douglas.. LOL

[Rascal]

Jerome McDougal?

[MechanicalBull]

Eagles boards are talking about the NFL Network report as well but are also curious on who they would give up. It's funny one poster said they should get Lelie because in Madden he has an 85 rating while Pinkston is an 81 and the rest of their WR are in the 70s. :rofl:

[ICON]

Eagles boards are talking about the NFL Network report as well but are also curious on who they would give up. It's funny one poster said they should get Lelie because in Madden he has an 85 rating while Pinkston is an 81 and the rest of their WR are in the 70s. :rofl:ROFL!

[ICON]

Eagles boards are talking about the NFL Network report as well but are also curious on who they would give up. It's funny one poster said they should get Lelie because in Madden he has an 85 rating while Pinkston is an 81 and the rest of their WR are in the 70s. :rofl:ROFL! Hilarious!