7/30 PM Practice Report [Archive] - The Orange Mane

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 05:52 PM

I had the pleasure of meeting Med today and he helped me get some better viewing access to both fields which was very much appreciated.

I will go with a slightly different format in this report (not studs/duds, ill just run through my notes on each position).

Quarterbacks

The group as a whole were not as sharp as the last couple practices but none of them played poorly (even BVP was ok). Jake had a play where, instead of taking the dragging reciever who sat down under the zone, he tried to throw it over the dropping LB to the sideline. The pass was complete but if that LB had some better hops it could have been a real problem. He also had a ball that sailed and was almost picked off by D-Will. He did have some nice throws underneath and threw a good ball to Watts right down the middle of the field at about 20 yards, which was dropped unfortuneatly. Plummer continued to do well against the blitz today. Cutler threw some nice balls, but made some mistakes too. He flashed his arm strength on a deep ball to Adams but it was a little too far and to the outside and Charlie couldnt get to it. There was a play were he tried to force it into the slant when the defender being stretched gave up the flat and it was knocked away. Cutler did a good job again eluding the rush, he stepped up and away from a defender and hit darius who made a nice sliding catch. He threw a great ball against pressure to Kircus as well. There wasnt much in the intermediate to deep area for the QBs to work with, alot of forced dump offs because of the depths of the backer drops.

Running Backs

Dayne had a few nice runs, although he was the beneficiary of some nice holes. They didnt work the run game a whole lot this afternoon though. Both Mike and Tatum Bell only got a couple touches and didnt do much with them, although Mike Bell had a nice inside run. Tatum had a play in pass protection where he picked up a blitz very well, although he made the wrong read on a screen pass and went inside where it was pretty crowded, he could have gotten about 20 yards outside.

Wide Recievers
Marshall had another strong afternoon but had his first drop of camp on a drag route. Other than that he was strong. The highlight was a leaping catch he made on the sideline to a ball that was thrown way too high. In the 1 on 1 drills they ran near the endzone, he was outmuscling the corners on the slants and fades and not letting them swat it away from him. Watts was hot and cold again. He made several catches but dropped a deep ball where he had beaten the defender in the middle of the field. He also had a nice sliding catch from Cutler. He had some battles in the goalline 1 on 1s with Foxworth, although Foxy got the better of him a little. Adams had a catch on a post late in practice but had two drops earlier. I didnt notice Devoe a whole lot. Like Adams, Terrell is struggling. He did not stand out in the 7 on 7s or 11 on 11s, and did quite poorly in the goalline 1 on 1s. He dropped a slant after beating the corner. He later made sort of a half-hearted effort at a ball on a slant that was only slightly ahead of him. Didnt show much awareness on the fades, he turned his head to look back for the ball way too late. Clark made some catches.

Rocket 7

07-30-2006, 06:00 PM

Thanks SoCal

Man-Goblin

07-30-2006, 06:04 PM

You're the man, SoCal. I really really appreciate all of these reports from both you and Kahn.

BigAl56

07-30-2006, 06:04 PM

I justed want to thank those of you that are attending camp and sharing information with the rest of us. Especially, those of us that are not in Denver, and are unable to hear local news on a regular basis. The reports are much appreciated. Awesome work.

Dagmar

07-30-2006, 06:09 PM

Great reporting as usual.

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 06:12 PM

Tight Ends

Again, Scheffler caught everything that was thrown his way, but he wasnt thrown that many balls. The LBs did a little better job bumping him up on his vertical routes though. He did get pushed around once while trying to block. Mustard helped himself a little bit with some catches underneath. He's a pretty damn big guy but he can still move at an adequate speed. Nate Jackson was good. He seemed to be routinely thrown some bad balls but still managed to snag a good deal of them.

Offensive Line

Not impressive, except when the first team OL paved some nice holes for Dayne in particular in the run game. It was somewhat the opposite of this morning in terms of pass protection. The DL was getting a good push in the PM session. Cornell Green got beat pretty bad by Lang on one occasion. I caught Foster holding a couple times. Hamilton let a LB fight through him on a blitz. The second team OL was also not good in pass pro. The youngsters like Dumervil, Jackson, Veal were doing a real good job in collapsing the pocket against those guys and at times against the 1s too. Eslinger in particular struggled mightily. He was getting overpowered alot and the LBs got through him on their blitzes too. Myers had a couple plays where he got beat too. House continued to be horrible in pass protection.

Defensive Line

Markedly better in pass rushing against the 1 and 2 OL. Corey Jackson finally did some things to justify the praise he has gotten. He beat some OTs cleanly a few times. Dumervil got good push when he was at DT in the nickel and at end. I think Veal was the best of them though. He repeatedly got pressure. Antwon Burton also had a play very late in the afternoon where he split the linemen in front of him.

Linebackers

This was a good group. I liked what I saw from DJ this afternoon. He had what would have been a sack did a nice job staying with Scheffler on his verticals. There was one play where Marshall caught a drag and DJ closed on him real fast. Cameron Vaughn, the rookie, had an excellent afternoon. He showed that he has legitimate skills as a blitzer, getting through the line several times and he got to the backfield almost at the same time that Tatum received the handoff on one occasion. Vaughn is going to challenge for a backup spot. Webster looked fast. Louis Green looked good too, he beat Cooper on a blitz. Today was also the first time I noticed Hollowell, he helped Dumervil and Mike Myers stuff a run right at the LOS.

(Jae)

07-30-2006, 06:13 PM

ILike Adams, Terrell is struggling. He did not stand out in the 7 on 7s or 11 on 11s, and did quite poorly in the goalline 1 on 1s. He dropped a slant after beating the corner. He later made sort of a half-hearted effort at a ball on a slant that was only slightly ahead of him. Didnt show much awareness on the fades, he turned his head to look back for the ball way too late.

At this rate, he wont even make the team.
Shame, so much "Hype" for him this offseason

Florida_Bronco

07-30-2006, 06:15 PM

Thanks for the report SoCal!

bcbronc

07-30-2006, 06:17 PM

anyone that wasn't a starter on oline last season sticking out in a positive way? how about pj alexander? is he back practising? does it look like carlisle might have some competition for his spot?

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 06:20 PM

Secondary

D-Will and Fox had a solid afternoon against the young recievers for the most part. Fox has had a real good day today in both practices. In the afternoon he had a play when he was dropping back to cover the deep outside third and he instinctively recognized the play and accelerated back down to the LOS real fast to break up a short curl route. D-Will almost picked off a ball and was flying around. Paymah was up and down. I heard Coyer yelling at him a couple times, but he does a good job in man coverage and broke up some routes that were along the sideline. Shoate and Willie still struggled, although Willie was not as bad as in the morning. The only time I noticed rookie Tyler Everett was when he didnt look like he was sure of his assignment and let Scheffler go right past him as he was sinking down into that area. They seem to like to blitz Hamza Abdullah from the safety spot.

12th man

07-30-2006, 06:29 PM

Defensive Line

Markedly better in pass rushing against the 1 and 2 OL. Corey Jackson finally did some things to justify the praise he has gotten. He beat some OTs cleanly a few times. Dumervil got good push when he was at DT in the nickel and at end. I think Veal was the best of them though. He repeatedly got pressure. Antwon Burton also had a play very late in the afternoon where he split the linemen in front of him..

Thank God!!! you don't even know how much better I feel now that that pass rush looked better. I read your report on the dline this morning, and I swear, it ruined my day, then by the time I was done reading the rankings on dlines through out the league that fox sports had, I was fvckin' pissed.

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 06:29 PM

Oh...and for Rascal, there was a big piece of gum on the on the strip between the practice fields. :)

ward63

07-30-2006, 06:33 PM

Was Meadows there SoCal? If so, how'd he look? I know it'd be his first day and all...

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 06:36 PM

Was Meadows there SoCal? If so, how'd he look? I know it'd be his first day and all...

Not that I know of. Does he even have a number yet? Im not sure he is even in Denver yet.

Clockwork Orange

07-30-2006, 06:39 PM

Not that I know of. Does he even have a number yet? Im not sure he is even in Denver yet.

He's not. He isn't expected to report until tomorrow and start practicing until Tuesday.

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 06:49 PM

Socal and I had a great time today comparing notes on a lot of things. Most of what he saw we collaborated on. I saw a few things differently especially towards the end of practice.

QB's- Jake's accuracy on the middle to underneath routes was much better than it was at the end of camp last year. He was making some good throws today and was even better on his reads. He still tried to force a few into the middle that I saw, But overall I was very happy wis his progress.

-BVP still struggles reading the coverage and they played a bunch of simple ones today. He actually throws the ball better than I remembered he just chooses yo ythrow it into the wrong place at the wrong time ;D

-Cutler looked pretty good overall, but he did go gunslinger on a couple of occasions and try and throw through a packed Zone. No INT's that I saw.

-Parsons is better than Mauck and Kanell were at the end of camp last year. I feel he just might press BVP for #3 if BVP does not start reading the coverages better as camp goes along. Did not get to see much of him today, but what I saw was solid.

TE's-Scheffler is really smooth and sharp in his breaks. His hands were as advertised as I saw him make some tough catches today. Blocking is not that great, but he does engage and give effort. I loved Brewster the TE coach today. He jammed all the TE's off the line and gave them hell if they did not get him!

-Jackson is a very Good pass catching TE. I believe he caught the most balls in the this practice in all the drills. He was blocking primarily on the other side from us so I did not see how effective he was there.

-Heck, Even Chad mustard got into the fray. Dude runs like Putzier and for a moment I did a double take. Easily, the best blocking TE and is serviceable in the passing game.

I will post some more later tonight guys, I have to get the kids settled in with the grandparents.

R8R H8R

07-30-2006, 06:58 PM

Defensive Line

Markedly better in pass rushing against the 1 and 2 OL. Corey Jackson finally did some things to justify the praise he has gotten. He beat some OTs cleanly a few times. Dumervil got good push when he was at DT in the nickel and at end. I think Veal was the best of them though. He repeatedly got pressure. Antwon Burton also had a play very late in the afternoon where he split the linemen in front of him.

Thanks much for the reports, SoCal, we all really appreciate it.

So Corey Jackson is playing with the #2 defense? Is that right? Actually that would be good news, because if he is on the #3 team, I would be more worried about him. I take it Dumervil is on the #1 nickel, correct? Or is he playing on non-passing downs also? That would be another good sign.

freak6

07-30-2006, 07:11 PM

-Cutler looked pretty good overall, but he did go gunslinger on a couple of occasions and try and throw through a packed Zone. No INT's that I saw.

Sounds like a young Brett Farve.

I can't wait to see the next depth chart. From these notes it sounds like Marshall and Watts are in a battle for #3.

Kaylore

07-30-2006, 07:12 PM

Awesome stuff, guys. Boy, this really is great reading this stuff. I can see why people enjoy it. :thumbsup:

12th man

07-30-2006, 07:17 PM

QB's- Jake's accuracy on the middle to underneath routes was much better than it was at the end of camp last year. He was making some good throws today and was even better on his reads. He still tried to force a few into the middle that I saw, But overall I was very happy wis his progress.

I think this might be jakes best year!!Booya!

Bronco Billy

07-30-2006, 07:26 PM

Anything on Marty Johnson today? Yesterday, the reports said he played solid.

watermock

07-30-2006, 07:28 PM

Maybe we should stop calling him the Blade and call him the Needle! Ha! He will get better on his reads, but he's not scared to thread it...which you have to do at times. Remember Young's rocket to T.O. (that had about 4 drops that day) against Dallas? T.O. was rocked like a rag doll but held on. That was a desperation 4th down with time running out. Young threaded the needle.

These reports are insanely detailed, but if I want the real hard copy I always turn to Burger Bill. Was there a Burger sighting today?

Bronco Billy

07-30-2006, 08:02 PM

Ok, I give. I didn't want to ask, but what the story behind Rascal and his turf?

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 08:10 PM

Kaylore

07-30-2006, 08:22 PM

Expect an Article by Mr. Williamson on Brandon Marshall in the near future. He did a 10 minute post practice interview with Bmarsh.
And then he ate him.

Mile High Shack

07-30-2006, 08:25 PM

sounds like Jake is the same ole Jake to me

I guess we shouldn't expect him to change too much even with a new rook in town trying to steal his mojo a little bit.

Sassy

07-30-2006, 08:28 PM

sounds like Jake is the same ole Jake to me

I guess we shouldn't expect him to change too much even with a new rook in town trying to steal his mojo a little bit.
13-3 and made it to the AFC championship...Hmmmm....most fans of other teams would kill for that.

Mile High Shack

07-30-2006, 08:30 PM

13-3 and made it to the AFC championship...Hmmmm....most fans of other teams would kill for that.

I'm fine with Jake, I just want him to play better in the playoff games, that's all

I'm a Jake backer..remember?

Rascal

07-30-2006, 08:31 PM

Oh...and for Rascal, there was a big piece of gum on the on the strip between the practice fields. :)

I bet it was you wasn't it? Just trying to piss me off.

watermock

07-30-2006, 08:31 PM

Is he going to give a review how he tasted like the Food Critic?

God that made me laugh for at least 30 seconds.

http://www.hccsucks.com/images/articles/20040419193551302_1.jpg

"Get in my Bellah!"

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 08:34 PM

WR's- I actually believe the depth here is incredible even without Lelie.

Let's start with Marshall. He definitely made plays today, but had the blatant drop. Overall, he was outmuscling DB's Left and right on the goalline drills. He looked impressive, and was quite fluent with his breaks too. Great Hands in tight spaces. The thing I liked about him most though was his awareness and ability to make plays after the catch. He took two catches and cut against the grain of the persuing defenders before he hit the ground. Both would have earned extra YAC and could have gone to the house possibly. Did I mention he drive blocks DB's out of the play too. Took all three Soph DB's out of the running plays. I do not want to overhype this kid, but he looks like a steal in the fourth.

Watts-Damn inconsistent again. Has great zone awareness and consistently found seams to sit in. Dropped a possible 70 yard TD catch, but I only saw it hit one hand. Socal said he dropped it though. Really looked good on the goalline drills and made some great catches. Surprisingly enough, he looked OK in blocking.

Brian Clark-surprisingly good hands for a track guy. Showed some ability to seperate. Definitely better than Adams or Devoe from what I saw in limited action. He comes real cheap and if they keep six WR's has a legit outside chance. Wrond side of the field to see any Blocking.

I am sure the Madise, Kevin Kasper, Triandos luke False Camp memories are creeping in by now ;D However, I assure you these are the best Second group of Denver WR's competing I have seen.

David Kircus-Has some talent and tries like its the Superbowl. Gets decent seperation , but always seemed to make the catch in traffic. Does not have the pure speed of Clark, but might have better ST value in order to get that last spot.

David Terrell-Disappointing in his technique for a former first rounder. His footwork is spotty. He seemed to get real frustrated not getting many opportunities with Rod and Javon not practising. I heard a few mutterd obscenities after the threw to the other side of the field three times in row. Never saw him make a catch in 7v7 or 11v11 drills.

Next OL

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 08:35 PM

And then he ate him.

I think Marshall is one of those that not even Williamson could eat ROFL!

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

07-30-2006, 08:37 PM

And then he ate him.
Ha!

Meck77

07-30-2006, 08:38 PM

and tries like its the Superbowl.

Wouldn't it had been nice if all our WR's showed up to camp and tried as if camp was the superbowl? Funny thing Med. You and I have been bsing about WR's for a few years now yet Watts is technically ahead of Lelie like I said he would be. Meck told you so.
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Broncoman13

07-30-2006, 08:39 PM

watermock

07-30-2006, 08:47 PM

Why should we give quarter when we have our own that are 10x better with limited resources?

I've always wondered how these "experts" like the Around the Horn crew and PTI structure their arguments.

Like Carlin comparing basebll to FOOTBALL, the man on the ground gets a perspective not available to "experts" that spend an hour in the makup room.

Broncoman13

07-30-2006, 08:49 PM

Reading the Orangemane and skipping over Mock's posts is a good start for the boys at PTI and Around the Horn!!! I think Stevie Smith reads your crap though, he always sounds stupid!

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 08:51 PM

OL-The second unit was pathetic for the most part and made the second unit DL look like the Colts Pass rush. That being said, the improv first unit (Nalen and Lepsis had the afternoon off) opened some holes in the running game. Bell and Dayne had some holes to actually work with and looked decent. Remember, camp is different and the consistency of the OL is not there with so many substitutions.

That being said, I will forego RB evals as they ran too few running plays to get a good feel for the RB's IMHO.

Individual standouts on the OL-Chris Kuper and Myers. Both were solid while guys around them were getting schooled. They looked like the group that was springing those interior holes but the angle was wrong to tell for sure. Myers filled in as the #1 C for Nalen. He did have one poor shotgun snap to BVP though.

Individual trouble-Eslinger and House. They were getting schooled on any blitz packages. Eslinger looked LOST. Center in this scheme is not just like in MINN ;D House just does not look the same after his injury and has little quickness or burst against the speed rush.

Green looked inconsistent, Alexander was on the other side too often to evaluate.

Next DL

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 08:55 PM

All of your reports jive with what I was told about the Broncos plans for Marshall. I think you're going to see him on the field quite a bit this year, unfortunately it will come at the expense of both Rod and Javon. From what I understand, keeping each of those guys fresh and healthy is a concern and the WR depth will play a role in making that happen.

Rod had already done this a bunch last year Oskie. He would give Adams about 8 snaps a game in the regular packages. Lelie actually took off about four plays too. Must have been dig routes and he was Winded ;D

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 08:56 PM

Eslinger looked LOST.

Yeah, I was getting depressed when I saw that. I like that kid alot. I hope he does better tomorrow, Med.

RhymesayersDU

07-30-2006, 09:08 PM

So, who all is going to be at camp bright and early tomorrow morning?

I should be there, but I'm dreading waking up at 7:30.

Meck77

07-30-2006, 09:13 PM

We'll be there on Wed. Need to catch up on some things. Besides the weather is supposed to be killer! http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/80011?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared

tnedator

07-30-2006, 09:15 PM

Running Backs

Dayne had a few nice runs, although he was the beneficiary of some nice holes. They didnt work the run game a whole lot this afternoon though. Both Mike and Tatum Bell only got a couple touches and didnt do much with them, although Mike Bell had a nice inside run. Tatum had a play in pass protection where he picked up a blitz very well, although he made the wrong read on a screen pass and went inside where it was pretty crowded, he could have gotten about 20 yards outside.

I have heard varying reports on Cobbs, although none of them very good. One report I read said he was hobbling during the first day of practices and couldn't finish. Did he get any carries today? Does he appear to be injured?

baja

07-30-2006, 09:15 PM

And then he ate him.

God! I hope the kids had left

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 09:15 PM

DL overall- Was missing everyone who is going to start, minus Myers possibly.

Demetrin Veal-Looks like he has made some Progression since last year. Still very quick and made more than a few plays in the backfield. Easily the best DT in the afternoon. Had a few pressures in the pass rush against the #1 unit and almost leveled Jake as his guy tried to push him past him.

Corey Jackson-has speed and power. Made a couple twist moves and found himself with a free look at a QB. Also, got good penetration when slanting in versus the run, tearing apart several plays.

Chukwurah-looked very good coming off the edge, but has no other moves that I saw. I seem to remember him never getting to the QB last year with that move. Definitely the fastest DE off the edge, But I want to see him do something but edge rush.

Dumervil- hidden from me in all the trash of taller players ;D No seriously he is hard to see and even worse when he is on the other side of the Formation. Will try to get a look at him tomorrow morning.

Myers- was just plain solid with one big play that he blew up in the backfield. He went right by Eslinger and maybe he even hollered Ole'. He is not anything special, but really does his job every play. A needed blue collar DT.

Lang- Looked real good in pass rush with the first nickle package. Sealed the edge on a few running plays and forced the RB's inside. Looks like a vet that is not having any trouble picking up what they are trying to do.

BTW-1st Nickle owned the Single Back three wide run game today. Would have had three or four tackles for loss and gave up nothing for the most part.

LBers and Secondary basically played a lot of Zone marginally well. There were no big plays and few first down conversions. I will evaluate the rest of these guys after the morning session. I'll try to take a few Questions.

Orange_Beard

07-30-2006, 09:19 PM

How hot was it out there today?
It was REALLY hot in town. Was anyone felling the heat?

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 09:20 PM

I have heard varying reports on Cobbs, although none of them very good. One report I read said he was hobbling during the first day of practices and couldn't finish. Did he get any carries today? Does he appear to be injured?

Good question. I'll try and find out.

He looks blah with no shiftiness or quickness at all. For his sake, I hope he is injured or his career is not going far from what I saw today.

baja

07-30-2006, 09:20 PM

Wouldn't it had been nice if all our WR's showed up to camp and tried as if camp was the superbowl? Funny thing Med. You and I have been bsing about WR's for a few years now yet Watts is technically ahead of Lelie like I said he would be. Meck told you so.
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don't forget old baja fan here i have been saying the kid willbe a star since we drafted him....

You rock baja, ya...

Mediator12

07-30-2006, 09:22 PM

How hot was it out there today?
It was REALLY hot in town. Was anyone felling the heat?

I left INDY today at 95 Degrees and 90% humidity. It felt great out there to me ;D

Dagmar

07-30-2006, 09:25 PM

So, who all is going to be at camp bright and early tomorrow morning?

I should be there, but I'm dreading waking up at 7:30.

That's not an unreasonable time to wake up on a Monday!

anthonypacino

07-30-2006, 09:35 PM

Socal!! I was at both practices today, without OF1 I have nowhere to catch up to you guys, I knew I wouldn't see Kaylore there today, let me know where to look for you at, I will be at both sessions tomorrow.
Marshall is looking better and better, Clark was very active in the last practice and showed some good stuff, Schleffer is fast, good hands but his running looks strange to me, routes are not sharp, and after he makes the catch his stride changes he takes smaller steps IMO.

watermock

07-30-2006, 09:35 PM

Being in Iowa I think I have every right to critique the so called experts who actually have gone to camp and fought with the feared Fred the Cable Guy. J/K guys. But I need some spotlight. (BTW, this is basically going of whatyou guys said)

QB's: Sounds like Plummer is on his game, and Jay is an unpolished diamond that is even good in it's unpolished state. There isn't a team in the leage with a better QB situation- Mock gives it an A+.

RB's: Shanahan seems content to hide his hand, but my money is on another year of BCC. I think it's Tater's job to lose, but noone seems to know. Mike Bell will make the team. Cobbs seems destined to go the way of MoC but hasn't been caught with a bottle yet. What a shame...go out in style. Bell is an eager beaver that is impressing. He's on a mission. B

WR: Walker is obviously still hampered, given a photo of him toasting Champ and going vertical for at least 36. Rod is Rod. If he doesn't make the HOF I will riot. I think he would be the only undrafted WR to make the HOF. The Claw? I don't know what to think. He seems to snag the hard passes and drop the easy ones. I have huge expectations of Marshall who has the size to simply overpower. Once he gets his footwork right, look out. Devoe just seems to make one play a game. He just does. Hixon will likely be thrwon onto IR. Denver got a letter from Lelies's agent that he has too scared to report because Rod Smith would smack him. I give it a B+

TE: Sounds like we got another gem here! Everything I hear is that he has speed and hands of glue. With the inguries, Leach will stick. He can long snap and isn't as lousy as people say. I think he stays. Nate Jackon? I dunno but I think he sticks. I give it a B based on how good Scheff has looked

OL: With the addition of the recovered Gatlin, who might be a steal, (for someone out of FB for 2 years he got a damn good salary) we seem set. Nalen is like a wise owl out there, Lepsis can hold his own and Hamitlon the same.This line isn't going to push anyone out into the endzone, but it's a good group. Their only weakness is at the goal line B+.

DL: Second against the run, but let the secondary chase mice all around the field on pass plays. It's still a decent group and because of a couple additions they get a B-.

LB: Pease.We are talented healthy and deep. A

CB: Champ played with a busted shoulder and pulled hammy and still held his own. He finally started shining toward the end of the year. DWill came out of the gate like a monster but hid a groin injury. Fox was burnt toast but has a year under his belt. Paymah will stay, but the rest is anyone's guess. They get a B- only because of injury. middlebrooks is likely gone.

S: I keep hearing Lynch this Lynch that, I think he's HOF, and he is defying time. That said, even with his instincts, it's dicey. Not Tony Lilly dicey, but dicey. Brandon is only barely adequate and Fergy is maybe a little better in coverage. Mabybe it's unfair, but I give the S position a C-.

ST: Vastly improved. Our coverage has vastly improved and the punting pig will be back by the 5th game. Elam can still hit inside the 45 NP.

Coaching A No explaniationneeded.

Stadium" A-.

Fred the Security Guard: D

Without Fred, I would of given an A. As it is, I give the Broncos an...drummroll....

Damn the scores...! A+ Booya! !Booya! !Booya!

tnedator

07-30-2006, 09:36 PM

Good question. I'll try and find out.

He looks blah with no shiftiness or quickness at all. For his sake, I hope he is injured or his career is not going far from what I saw today.

Thanks. If he is, it wouldn't be too much of a surprise. He was hurt during his first two training camps and several times in college. He has the measurables to be good, but can't stay healthy.

RhymesayersDU

07-30-2006, 09:36 PM

That's not an unreasonable time to wake up on a Monday!
I'm still savoring the last of my college days when I get to sleep in. ;)

SoCalBronco

07-30-2006, 09:42 PM

Fred hasnt been bad so far. I was expecting him to be a complete jackass, but he doesnt seem too bad to this point.

ozomulsion

07-31-2006, 12:58 AM

I have heard varying reports on Cobbs, although none of them very good. One report I read said he was hobbling during the first day of practices and couldn't finish. Did he get any carries today? Does he appear to be injured?

Ever since his freshman year Cobbs has been injured and missed 60-70% of his games. He sure did shape up and kick some ass his senior year after missing significant time with turf toe, a minor shoulder separation and several minor yet nagging injuries the few previous years. There were a couple injuries that simply couldn't be played through. but he missed as much time as any player I ever seen with injuries equal in severity to his minor ones. Don't expect him to play through pain. I will note that he did play at half speed through a hamstring injury his junior year.

My parents are from Arkansas so I follow the Hogs closely for the sake of my dad who just doesn't have much free time ever. I follow all running backs and followed Cobbs very closely. He was supposed to be our savior, expected by many to win a heisman after his wonderful high school career. What we got was a lot of disappointment, a great senior season, flashes of brilliance, a lot of nagging injuries and a couple of bad injuries. I'm not much Hog fan, if this post sounds like it's out of spite, I assure you it's not. The Hogs ended up with their all time leading rusher who attended UA three of the five years Cobbs attended. Cobbs had to spend a fair amount of time on the sidelines for that to take place. Thank you for being our savior Fred Talley!

I'm not trying to sound like the grim reaper but I thought I'd throw out the info on him so some folks won't get too disappointed if he gets cuts kind of early. Most Razorback fans on here remember his senior season and have tended to forgive and forget about the others.

Runningback is the only position I critique in college, and pretty accurately how they'll convert in the pros. EXCEPT if they went to my college, Oklahoma State. Only a hand full of folks agree with me that Tatum will be star RB who will be able to carry the ball 20+ times a game for many full seasons. That I may be a little off on. Since Portis got traded, TD and Garrison Hearst retired. Tatum is the only RB I've been a huge fan of to the point of possibly overrating him a bit. Everybody else gets a fair shake.

That last info was to help explain my future runningback rants. I don't go on like this about any other position and don't think I'm a know it all by any means.

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