Israeli bomb kills UN observers

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5215366.stm


Four United Nations peacekeepers have been killed in an Israeli air strike on an observation post in south Lebanon. UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said he was "shocked" at the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the post. Israel has expressed "deep regret".

Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has vowed the group would continue its rocket attacks on Israel.

Israel earlier said it would control an area in southern Lebanon until international forces deployed.

The force will be discussed at crisis talks to be held in Rome on Wednesday.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will be at the talks after ending her tour of the Middle East on Tuesday.

More than 380 Lebanese and 42 Israelis have died in nearly two weeks of conflict in Lebanon, which began after Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid on 12 July.

The UN in Lebanon says the Israeli air force destroyed the observer post, in which four military observers were sheltering.

It said the four, from Austria, Canada, China and Finland, had taken shelter in a bunker under the post after it was earlier shelled 14 times by Israeli artillery.

A rescue team was also shelled as it tried to clear the rubble.

"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defence Forces of a UN Observer post in southern Lebanon," Mr Annan said in a statement from Rome.

Unifil has been operational in the border area since 1978 and is currently 2,000 strong.

[Crushaholic]

Bravo for destroying a United Nothings post, but it sucks that there were lives taken...

[W*GS]

"Unifil has been operational in the border area since 1978 and is currently 2,000 strong."

Gee, it's been truly effective for 28 years now, hasn't it?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bravo for destroying a United Nothings post, but it sucks that there were lives taken...

:oyvey:

That's right - I forgot: According to the neocon brain trust, the UN (right along with the Constitution) is 'irrelevant' (except when you want to use its authority to justify pre-emptive military action against a defenseless country that isn't a threat to you, that is.)

[defenseman]

Kofi Annan is an idiot..dman

[spdirty]

Now maybe the UN will get REALLY mad at Isreal and (gasp) write em a letter telling em how mad they are!!! Oh no!!

[Jesterhole]

Kofi Annan is an idiot..dman

That adds a lot to the conversation. And I'm sure he's an idiot, because he's never accomplished anything in his life...unlike you.

[spdirty]

Could you say what exactly he has accomplished in his position?

[Rigs11]

Now maybe the UN will get REALLY mad at Isreal and (gasp) write em a letter telling em how mad they are!!! Oh no!!
You have no sense of laws or rules do you?You are exactly the type of ignorant rambo american that makes the rest of us look bad in the rest of the world. I know i know you don't care, just keep swallowing the rubbish that they hate us because they hate freedom.Nice avatar by the way, do you adore fat lying hypocritical war mongering radio talk show hosts?

[Spider]

Republicans need to move to Wyoming , here is the news that we saw

Posted 7-26-06

Kofi Annan Could Have Ordered Peacekeepers to Leave

By Julie Stahl
CNSNews.com Jerusalem Bureau Chief

Haifa, Israel (CNSNews.com) - The four United Nations peacekeepers killed in an Israeli attack on their outpost were required to stay at that post "until they were ordered by the [U.N.] secretary general to withdraw," said a member of the United Nations Truce Supervision Organization on Wednesday.

But the peacekeepers apparently never received such an order, despite the fierce cross-border fighting that erupted in southern Lebanon two weeks ago.

The four peacekeepers -- from China, Austria, Canada and Finland -- had taken security precautions and were in a shelter under their bunker when they were killed, said Wicki Dieter, the chief plans officer for the United Nations Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO).

(UNTSO is an unarmed U.N. body whose "observer" mandate dates from 1948. By contrast, UNIFIL -- the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon -- was created in 1978 to "restore the international peace and security" in southern Lebanon.)

According to Dieter, it's still not clear exactly what happened at the UNIFIL outpost, which, according to the BBC, had been shelled by Israeli forces at least 14 times before Tuesday's deadly attack.

On Tuesday, U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan said he was "shocked and deeply distressed" at the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the outpost.

/lang4105 "This co-ordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long-established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," Annan was quoted as saying.

Anan -- and China -- were among the first to condemn what Israel has called an unintended attack. They are demanding an investigation.

Neither Annan nor Israel has said anything about why the unarmed peacekeepers -- who were supposed to be monitoring a ceasefire -- were left in what's become a war zone. Israeli officials flatly refused comment about that on Wednesday.

'Deep regret'

On Tuesday, and again on Wednesday, Israel expressed "deep regret" for bombing the U.N. bunker.

"Israel does not target UN staff, and since the beginning of the conflict, Israel has deployed all its efforts to ensure the safety of those staff in the region," said a statement released by the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

Miri Eisen, an Israeli government spokesman, said on Wednesday that Ehud Olmert "spoke to Kofi Annan this morning and told him that there would be an in-depth inquiry into how this happened."

Israel does not target the U.N. or civilians, Israeli government spokesman Eisen told Fox & Friends on Wednesday. "It was a very sad and regretful mistake, and we will do our utmost to inquire into how this happened," she said.

Further complicating the situation is the rocky relationship between Israel and the United Nations.

Israel has long complained about the failure of the United Nations peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon, accusing some peacekeepers of siding with Israel's enemies.

In Oct. 2000, three Israeli soldiers were kidnapped by Hizballah in a cross-border ambush that happened under the noses of United Nations peacekeepers.

And many Israelis harbor a deep distrust of the U.N. in general, given years of anti-Israeli resolutions, including the controversial 1975 "Zionism equals racism" resolution (see related story).

More rockets

As Israel tries to manage fallout over the U.N. peacekeeper deaths, Katyusha and Kassam rockets continued to fall in northern and southern Israel on Wednesday. And the fierce fighting continued in southern Lebanon.

The Israeli army said it had surrounded the Hizballah "capital" of Bint Jbail on Wednesday, and a number of Israeli soldiers reportedly were wounded in the fighting to take the town.

Bint Jbail is about two miles inside of Lebanon, and Israel's effort to capture it has been going on since the weekend.

A United Nations spokesman was quoted as saying that Israeli troops had entered the town on Tuesday, but Hizballah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah denied that was the case.

Nasrallah, in a televised address, said that Hizballah is about to enter a "new phase in the confrontation, the phase of [hitting] beyond Haifa."

Israeli officials have said they believe Nasrallah has missiles capable of reaching Tel Aviv and even beyond.

Last week, the Israeli Air Force demolished a truck carrying at least 10 Iranian-made, long-range rockets.

By mid-morning warning sirens were already sounding in Haifa, once again forcing residents to take cover. At least 36 Hizballah-fired rockets crashed into Israel by mid-morning, injuring several people.

On Tuesday, 101 rockets were fired at Israel, killing one teenage Arab girl and wounding more than 20 Israelis.

Eighteen Israeli civilians have been killed as a result of rocket attacks and at least 24 soldiers have been killed in battle.

In Lebanon, nearly 400 people have been killed. It is not clear how many of them are Hizballah fighters. Although it appears that the majority of the casualties are civilian, Israel has gone to great lengths to warn civilians to flee areas that it plans to target.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice met with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Tuesday, essentially giving him a green light to continue the Israeli battle to route the Hizballah.

The head of Israeli military intelligence, Maj.-Gen. Amos Yadlin, said on Tuesday that Hizballah was trying to draw Syria into the war to open a third front for Israel, but neither Syria nor Israel were interested in fighting each other, he said.

Speaking to Israeli lawmakers, Yadlin was quoted as saying that Iran gives more than $100 million a year to Hizballah via Syria.

On the southern front, Palestinians reported seven people killed in Israeli operations in the Gaza Strip overnight.

Israeli forces entered the northern Gaza Strip to "destroy the terrorist infrastructure and stop the rocket launching," an army spokesperson said. The Air Force attacked structures containing weapons and the army also attacked cells of armed gunmen, the spokesperson said.

Three Kassam rockets fired from the Gaza Strip landed in Israel early Wednesday.

Rice met with Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday at the Mukata compound in Ramallah.

She pledged that the U.S. would "continue our common work of bringing a two-state solution to the people of Palestine and the people of Israel, that we will not tire in our efforts."

Abbas said he was working hard to obtain the release of abducted Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who was abducted two weeks ago.

Abbas said the Palestinians want a "ceasefire now" and wanted to "prevent the fire from spreading." He called for a revival of the diplomatic process.

(CNSNews.com Senior Editor Susan Jones contributed to this report.)

[Meck77]

Anyone see the picture of the red cross van in Lebanon that was hit dead center on the roof?

That was one precision guided shot let me tell ya.

[Spider]

Anyone see the picture of the red cross van in Lebanon that was hit dead center on the roof?

That was one precision guided shot let me tell ya.
this is a problem , now I know I will get called Hitler , terrorist lover , my only goal in life is to learn to spell and get a job with Al Jazeera and become hadji , for saying this , but Israel has a right to defend herself , but she doesnt have the right to kill everyone that isnt jewish .......
Israel has gone way over the top on this one .........

[Rigs11]

this is a problem , now I know I will get called Hitler , terrorist lover , my only goal in life is to learn to spell and get a job with Al Jazeera and become hadji , for saying this , but Israel has a right to defend herself , but she doesnt have the right to kill everyone that isnt jewish .......
Israel has gone way over the top on this one .........
Jihadist!ROFL! What is it that Errant calls us?

[Spider]

Jihadist!ROFL! What is it that Errant calls us?
on welfare no less

[alkemical]

shekinah has left the israeli's for so long, it's sad.

[Spider]

Shekindah has left the israeli's for so long, it's sad.
is this a rock group ?

[alkemical]

is this a rock group ?


No it's the personification of god dwelling amongst his peoples. In this instance, it's a female personification.

(I typed it wrong and fixed it in the original post)

[Spider]

No it's the personification of god dwelling amongst his peoples. In this instance, it's a female personification.

(I typed it wrong and fixed it in the original post)
ahhh thanks for clearing that up

[TailgateNut]

No it's the personification of god dwelling amongst his peoples. In this instance, it's a female personification.

(I typed it wrong and fixed it in the original post)

Very DEEP! Please forward some of the mind altering substance to my address! It's obviously been a long time for me, 'cause I can't keep up with your DEPTH!

[alkemical]

Very DEEP! Please forward some of the mind altering substance to my address! It's obviously been a long time for me, 'cause I can't keep up with your DEPTH!

Has nothing to do with drugs. Infact i'd like to take a moment to brush briefly on that.

Tim Leary and "the like" - though enlightenment came in a 'hit' of a drug. it showed you windows - but when you figure out how to do it on your own you don't need them.


You can alter your state by using breating excersises.....

hehe sometimes i like to stage a coup on my current state! :)

[TailgateNut]

Do you also get "flashbacks"?:peace:

[alkemical]

Do you also get "flashbacks"?:peace:


No, but i get bursts of enlightenment every now and then.

I started figuring out the key to four limp impendence for drumming one day while driving my car - or i saw why the pentacle is so perfect in it's aspect of matter & spirit combined on the physical plane. Or to write an algorythm to make an LED bulb flash at 10-21hz (the same the dreamachine operates on) to make a simple and cheap home version.....

it's not painless though - sometimes looking at yourself, you see how ugly you are.

[errand]

Now maybe the UN will get REALLY mad at Isreal and (gasp) write em a letter telling em how mad they are!!! Oh no!!

Could you imagine raising a child the way the UN solves the world's problems?

You child has just got caught stealing another child's video game.

A - TELL THE CHILD NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.....


B - .....IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, TELL HIM NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

C-.....IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM TO STOP ONLY ADD "PRETTY PLEASE" THIS TIME

D - IF HE IGNORES THOSE WARNINGS DO THE SAME THING AGAIN ONLY THIS TIME ADD "OR ELSE"

E - IF HE ASKS "OR ELSE, WHAT?" TELL HIM THAT YOU'LL BUY HIM HIS OWN VIDEO GAME IF HE'LL LEAVE OTHER KID'S GAMES ALONE.

F - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM TO STOP STEALING "OR ELSE" AGAIN.

G - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM HE'S REALLY MAKING YOU ANGRY

H - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM THAT IT'S NOT ALL HIS FAULT, THAT OTHER KID SHOULDN'T HAVE HIS GAME IN HIS HOUSE WITH A LOCKED WINDOW IN PLAIN SIGHT


WELL, YOU GET THE POINT......

[errand]

That adds a lot to the conversation. And I'm sure he's an idiot, because he's never accomplished anything in his life...unlike you.

So tell us Jesterhole...what has Kofi Annan done as UN president? What crisis has his leadership solved?

[alkemical]

Could you imagine raising a child the way the UN solves the world's problems?

You child has just got caught stealing another child's video game.

A - TELL THE CHILD NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.....


B - .....IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, TELL HIM NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

C-.....IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM TO STOP ONLY ADD "PRETTY PLEASE" THIS TIME

D - IF HE IGNORES THOSE WARNINGS DO THE SAME THING AGAIN ONLY THIS TIME ADD "OR ELSE"

E - IF HE ASKS "OR ELSE, WHAT?" TELL HIM THAT YOU'LL BUY HIM HIS OWN VIDEO GAME IF HE'LL LEAVE OTHER KID'S GAMES ALONE.

F - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM TO STOP STEALING "OR ELSE" AGAIN.

G - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM HE'S REALLY MAKING YOU ANGRY

H - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM THAT IT'S NOT ALL HIS FAULT, THAT OTHER KID SHOULDN'T HAVE HIS GAME IN HIS HOUSE WITH A LOCKED WINDOW IN PLAIN SIGHT


WELL, YOU GET THE POINT......


Getting beat with a 1/4" thick razor strap didn't curtail me from being bad. But reasoning and showing me there are better ways and better things to do - went much further than just fear of violence. Not to mention violence doesn't grant respect and respect through fear is only short lived.

There is no love in fear.

[errand]

this is a problem , now I know I will get called Hitler , terrorist lover , my only goal in life is to learn to spell and get a job with Al Jazeera and become hadji , for saying this , but Israel has a right to defend herself , but she doesnt have the right to kill everyone that isnt jewish .......
Israel has gone way over the top on this one .........

We call you terrorist lover because you side with those that cast aspersions against our brave troops.

As for Israel trying to kill all non-Jews...what a bunch of crap....you do realize that there are non-Jews and Arabs who live and co-exist in Israel, don't you?

Israel is doing what the UN hasn't been unable or better yet, unwilling to do...rid Lebanon of Hezbollah

BTW, you're already Hadji....

[errand]

Getting beat with a 1/4" thick razor strap didn't curtail me from being bad. But reasoning and showing me there are better ways and better things to do - went much further than just fear of violence. Not to mention violence doesn't grant respect and respect through fear is only short lived.

There is no love in fear.

So tell us there, O wise one....

How do suppose Israel should reason with those who cut the heads off of their hostages?

[Spider]

We call you terrorist lover because you side with those that cast aspersions against our brave troops.

As for Israel trying to kill all non-Jews...what a bunch of crap....you do realize that there are non-Jews and Arabs who live and co-exist in Israel, don't you?

Israel is doing what the UN hasn't been unable or better yet, unwilling to do...rid Lebanon of Hezbollah

BTW, you're already Hadji....
LOL not we just you errand , unless of course you are counting all the other personalities you have contained inside of you ........
now we went over this once before so we will do it again , Please point out the post where I took terrorist side over our troops , I understand that making things up as you go along is part of your problem Errand , but you must be called on it , So once again produce the post ........ Chances are it isnt me siding with terrorist , it is your lack of understanding .......
So please produce the post ......

[Crushaholic]

:oyvey:

That's right - I forgot: According to the neocon brain trust, the UN (right along with the Constitution) is 'irrelevant' (except when you want to use its authority to justify pre-emptive military action against a defenseless country that isn't a threat to you, that is.)

This is the main reason I'm not a big fan of Bush's daddy. He should have told the UN to go to hell and taken out Saddam in 91, instead of just beating him back. However, the former UN ambassador...just...couldn't...do...that...:gripe:

[Spider]

and I dont care if every jew or Palistien is wiped out , they want war let em have it , kill each other off , the surviviors will find a better way to solve thier differences ....... UN should stay far away as with the US ....... Let these back assed idiots destroy each other , both sides are a blight on the earth , soon as the bad apples are sorted out , then progress will happen

[Spider]

This is the main reason I'm not a big fan of Bush's daddy. He should have told the UN to go to hell and taken out Saddam in 91, instead of just beating him back. However, the former UN ambassador...just...couldn't...do...that...:gripe:
good plan speed up the events that are going on now ......

[Spider]

We call you terrorist lover because you side with those that cast aspersions against our brave troops.

As for Israel trying to kill all non-Jews...what a bunch of crap....you do realize that there are non-Jews and Arabs who live and co-exist in Israel, don't you?
.
and so many on the other side of the boarder ...... getting wiped out .....
I know you cant distinguish in your mind degrees , for example a guys dog craps on your lawn , you have every right to burn his house down . .....
What Israel is doing inst Justice , it is flat out mascaraing civialians in civian nieghborhoods ......... This is why we have the checks and balances we do errand , to protect society from people like you .........

[alkemical]

So tell us there, O wise one....

How do suppose Israel should reason with those who cut the heads off of their hostages?


First off - i am far from a wise man. You do understand that violence breeds violence do you not? So something has to happen or be done to break the cyclic nature of these events. If we don't do it, Gaia/mother earth/god will.

So why not let us be proactive and come up with a solution.


Not to mention errand, if people really don't war and killing - there would be no war and killing.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

This is the main reason I'm not a big fan of Bush's daddy. He should have told the UN to go to hell and taken out Saddam in 91, instead of just beating him back. However, the former UN ambassador...just...couldn't...do...that...:gripe:

He was a man of vision, actually.

----------------------------------------------------------
"Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under the circumstances, there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different — and perhaps barren — outcome."

George H.W. Bush... Chapter 19, A World Transformed

[Spider]

First off - i am far from a wise man. You do understand that violence breeds violence do you not? So something has to happen or be done to break the cyclic nature of these events. If we don't do it, Gaia/mother earth/god will.

So why not let us be proactive and come up with a solution.


Not to mention errand, if people really don't war and killing - there would be no war and killing.
I go easy on Errand now , Errand has this hollywood view of violence , he doesnt know or understand violence , just what he sees when Rambo lines up kills 500 people ......

[alkemical]

I go easy on Errand now , Errand has this hollywood view of violence , he doesnt know or understand violence , just what he sees when Rambo lines up kills 500 people ......


I've learned that people often project their shadow onto the world and to other people. So they then find around every corner that negative. Seek and ye shall find......

[Spider]

I've learned that people often project their shadow onto the world and to other people. So they then find around every corner that negative. Seek and ye shall find......
I think it is more mental with errnd , he disconnects from reality and forms his own fantasy world limited on what he understands , and then bull****s what he doesnt understand .......
Errand needs a giude through life , he needs someone to tell him what to think , what is right or wrong , he can not form these judgments on his own ....... I should volunteer to be errands guide , a jimmy Cricket if you will , but Errand would do something realy stupid and I would come unhinged .......

[alkemical]

I think it is more mental with errnd , he disconnects from reality and forms his own fantasy world limited on what he understands , and then bull****s what he doesnt understand .......
Errand needs a giude through life , he needs someone to tell him what to think , what is right or wrong , he can not form these judgments on his own ....... I should volunteer to be errands guide , a jimmy Cricket if you will , but Errand would do something realy stupid and I would come unhinged .......


Spider -

Maybe to him you are disconnected from reality. We all project our reality- we are greater artists than we think or believe.

[Spider]

Spider -

Maybe to him you are disconnected from reality. We all project our reality- we are greater artists than we think or believe.
I thought about that , but when the story came out about what the Marines did , I defended the marines and put the onus onto command , lack of disipline , lack of a good ground plan , Errand went off as I supported terrorist , this isnt the first ime this happened , norwill it be the last , no where and at no point in time did I say the terrorist are right , but that doesnt stop errand ...try it yourself if you make a post that 60% of the board agrees with , if errand doesnt understand whats being said , he goes into lock down mode , you hate america type of stuff ....... I try to put down my reasoning behind my thinking ....

[Spider]

see errand has this polly anna view , we are always right , everything we do is perfect , and if you disagree with this , then you hate America , your name is Hadji , and what doesnt fit ,he makes up ....... I have had great pleasure as with others here making fun of errand , but now I understand , it isnt his fault , there is only so much he can take in ......

[alkemical]

Spider, trust me man - i've been on this board since the dawn of it's creation for the most part -

[Spider]

Spider, trust me man - i've been on this board since the dawn of it's creation for the most part -
same here .........what does that have to do with Errand and his limited mental capacity ?

[alkemical]

same here .........what does that have to do with Errand and his limited mental capacity ?


try it yourself if you make a post that 60% of the board agrees with , if errand doesnt understand whats being said , he goes into lock down mode , you hate america type of stuff ....... .

[Spider]

.
so then you agree there is only so much errand can take in ..........

[alkemical]

so then you agree there is only so much errand can take in ..........

Yes and no, and it's not limited to just errand.

[Spider]

Yes and no, and it's not limited to just errand.
of course it isnt ..........

[Spider]

Just like other teams fans that post here , they come here telling us how great thier team is , they pass it off as fact , in reality Bronco fan already know that the Broncos are the better team , when we try to tell these less then humans this fact , they go balistic ......
we all know Chief and Raider fans are sub level humans , not realy wirth alot , but we tolerate this scum to a point .........

[alkemical]

Just like other teams fans that post here , they come here telling us how great thier team is , they pass it off as fact , in reality Bronco fan already know that the Broncos are the better team , when we try to tell these less then humans this fact , they go balistic ......
we all know Chief and Raider fans are sub level humans , not realy wirth alot , but we tolerate this scum to a point .........


You understand it's the 'same' though, right?

[Spider]

You understand it's the 'same' though, right?
not at all , I am Bronco fan , I am much better then those other teams fans ..... they should be thankfull we allow them to breathe the same air we do ........

[alkemical]

not at all , I am Bronco fan , I am much better then those other teams fans ..... they should be thankfull we allow them to breathe the same air we do ........


LOL.

I hope you are just helping me prove a point... if not i do not mean to laugh...

[Spider]

LOL.

I hope you are just helping me prove a point... if not i do not mean to laugh...
Everyone knows that the Broncos are the best ever , that beong Bronco fan is like being royalty , if you dont agree with this , then you are Cledus , the Chief fan , and against everything that is good in this world ........... ;D

[Spider]

Chief loving anti American common peasant .......

[alkemical]

Chief loving anti American common peasant .......


haha, i will never kiss the boots of shiny shiny leather - today spider must be a repub.

[Spider]

haha, i will never kiss the boots of shiny shiny leather - today spider must be a repub.
:thumbsup: but yeah I was helping to prove a point ...... I was thinking about dragging it along , but the point is made ........ But the Chiefs are still scum ;D

[alkemical]

lol spider - will they start putting ketchup & mustard packets everywhere to spread their message?

[Spider]

lol spider - will they start putting ketchup & mustard packets everywhere to spread their message?
diabolical bastards .there is no end to thier evil ;D

[alkemical]

we must tap their phones!

[Spider]

we must tap their phones!
tap phones . Black helicopters ..... the whole 9 yards

[RMT]

This might be a reason why U.N. outposts are being hit:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/hezlove002.jpg

The U.N. outposts have been "sleeping with the enemy" and, in doing so, have provided Hezbollah with "protection."

Jed Babbin explains: "The U.N.'s years-long record on the Israel-Lebanon border makes mockery of the term "peacekeeping." On page 155 of my book, "Inside the Asylum," is a picture of a U.N. outpost on that border. The U.N. flag and the Hezbollah flag fly side by side. Observers told me the U.N. and Hezbollah personnel share water and telephones, and that the U.N. presence serves as a shield against Israeli strikes against the terrorists."

Meanwhile, Charles Johnson spots something in today's UNIFIL press release about Hezbollah's firing positions that you ought to know about, "but aren’t hearing about on the nightly news."

"Another UN position of the Ghanaian battalion in the area of Marwahin in the western sector was also directly hit by one mortar round from the Hezbollah side last night. The round did not explode, and there were no casualties or material damage. Another 5 incidents of firing close to UN positions from the Israeli side were reported yesterday. It was also reported that Hezbollah fired from the vicinity of four UN positions at Alma ash Shab, Tibnin, Bra****, and At Tiri. All UNIFIL positions remain occupied and maintained by the troops."

Hezbollah fighters are firing from mosques. In Gaza Hamas gunmen are occuyping citizen's homes and mosques. That way if/when those locations are hit, civilians are killed and Muslims everywhere cry "holy war" for mosques getting hit. I'm afraid this stuff is going to get a LOT worse before it gets better (if it ever does).

[Spider]

This might be a reason why U.N. outposts are being hit:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/hezlove002.jpg

The U.N. outposts have been "sleeping with the enemy" and, in doing so, have provided Hezbollah with "protection."

Jed Babbin explains: "The U.N.'s years-long record on the Israel-Lebanon border makes mockery of the term "peacekeeping." On page 155 of my book, "Inside the Asylum," is a picture of a U.N. outpost on that border. The U.N. flag and the Hezbollah flag fly side by side. Observers told me the U.N. and Hezbollah personnel share water and telephones, and that the U.N. presence serves as a shield against Israeli strikes against the terrorists."

Meanwhile, Charles Johnson spots something in today's UNIFIL press release about Hezbollah's firing positions that you ought to know about, "but aren’t hearing about on the nightly news."

"Another UN position of the Ghanaian battalion in the area of Marwahin in the western sector was also directly hit by one mortar round from the Hezbollah side last night. The round did not explode, and there were no casualties or material damage. Another 5 incidents of firing close to UN positions from the Israeli side were reported yesterday. It was also reported that Hezbollah fired from the vicinity of four UN positions at Alma ash Shab, Tibnin, Bra****, and At Tiri. All UNIFIL positions remain occupied and maintained by the troops."

First you have to ask when you read somthing like this is , what does the UN have to gain by helping Hezbollah ?
could it be that the UN is there t osee if any human rights are being violated , and Israel Claims the motors came from where the un post are ?
and that this is a cover up ?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He was a man of vision, actually.

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"Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under the circumstances, there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different — and perhaps barren — outcome."

George H.W. Bush... Chapter 19, A World Transformed

He sure was quite the prophet in this instance, wasn't he?

It's simply incomprehensible how any GeeDubya supporter, in light of the foregoing passage from Pappy's book, could still try to argue that Pappy should have pressed on to Baghdad and removed Saddam.

[24champ]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/hezlove002.jpg
Hey Kofi Israel intentionally hit the UN outpost my ass and what the hell are peacekeepers doing in the middle of a war zone?

Now I am not happy that these blue helmets got hit in their observation post. If I'm a peacekeeper, and I've been sent in there, and I see the Hizbollah bringing some rocket launchers over very near my building, I don't look for a bigger flagpole to put my blue flag on. I get the hell out of there.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You have no sense of laws or rules do you?You are exactly the type of ignorant rambo american that makes the rest of us look bad in the rest of the world. I know i know you don't care, just keep swallowing the rubbish that they hate us because they hate freedom.Nice avatar by the way, do you adore fat lying hypocritical war mongering radio talk show hosts?

:D ^5

The fact that his avatar is a pic of Oxycontin Boy just about says it all, doesn't it?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

We call you terrorist lover because you side with those that cast aspersions against our brave troops.

And we call you a disingenuous spin jobber because, when confronted with evidence of atrocities committed by U.S. troops, you simply go on offense and attack the whistleblower.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Could you imagine raising a child the way the UN solves the world's problems?

You child has just got caught stealing another child's video game.

A - TELL THE CHILD NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.....


B - .....IF HE DOES IT AGAIN, TELL HIM NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

C-.....IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM TO STOP ONLY ADD "PRETTY PLEASE" THIS TIME

D - IF HE IGNORES THOSE WARNINGS DO THE SAME THING AGAIN ONLY THIS TIME ADD "OR ELSE"

E - IF HE ASKS "OR ELSE, WHAT?" TELL HIM THAT YOU'LL BUY HIM HIS OWN VIDEO GAME IF HE'LL LEAVE OTHER KID'S GAMES ALONE.

F - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM TO STOP STEALING "OR ELSE" AGAIN.

G - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM HE'S REALLY MAKING YOU ANGRY

H - IF HE DOES IT AGAIN TELL HIM THAT IT'S NOT ALL HIS FAULT, THAT OTHER KID SHOULDN'T HAVE HIS GAME IN HIS HOUSE WITH A LOCKED WINDOW IN PLAIN SIGHT


WELL, YOU GET THE POINT......


Then why do right-wing spin jobbers like you always appeal to the authority of the U.N. when you're trying to justify Dim Son's pre-emptive attack on Iraq?

[RMT]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/24champbailey/hezlove002.jpg
Hey Kofi Israel intentionally hit the UN outpost my ass and what the hell are peacekeepers doing in the middle of a war zone?

Now I am not happy that these blue helmets got hit in their observation post. If I'm a peacekeeper, and I've been sent in there, and I see the Hizbollah bringing some rocket launchers over very near my building, I don't look for a bigger flagpole to put my blue flag on. I get the hell out of there.

That's what is confusing about this whole thing ... what is the U.N. doing saddling up to Hezbollah, knowing full well that they are a terrorist organization? ... Regardless, Annan's comments about the attack being "apparently deliberate" were hopefully said out of frustration. That quote is troublesome, though, as it gives the appearance of taking sides. The whole mess is awful.

Israel would most likely keep to itself if Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. would leave them alone but a vast majority of Muslims in the region want to DESTROY Israel - wipe it off the map. As long as that mentality exists in the Middle East, Israel will be left to defend itself. I do not condone the unbalanced response that Israel has undertaken, however, they may be viewing this as "enough is enough" and feel that it was the time to act.

[24champ]

That's what is confusing about this whole thing ... what is the U.N. doing saddling up to Hezbollah, knowing full well that they are a terrorist organization? ... Regardless, Annan's comments about the attack being "apparently deliberate" were hopefully said out of frustration. That quote is troublesome, though, as it gives the appearance of taking sides. The whole mess is awful.

Well I do not know if they were intentionally saddling up with Hizbollah, That is a big accusation. However I think Hizbollah is looking for human shields and they thought that nobody would bomb anything near the UN outpost. Hizbollah is launching rockets from private homes. Hizbollah is being transported around by ambulance. Hizbollah members are painting red crosses on vehicles as they putt-putt around their little territory down there.

Israel would most likely keep to itself if Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. would leave them alone but a vast majority of Muslims in the region want to DESTROY Israel - wipe it off the map. As long as that mentality exists in the Middle East, Israel will be left to defend itself. I do not condone the unbalanced response that Israel has undertaken, however, they may be viewing this as "enough is enough" and feel that it was the time to act.

Agreed.

[spdirty]

Getting beat with a 1/4" thick razor strap didn't curtail me from being bad. But reasoning and showing me there are better ways and better things to do - went much further than just fear of violence. Not to mention violence doesn't grant respect and respect through fear is only short lived.

There is no love in fear.


You don't have to beat a kid up to make em behave...for instance my 3 year old has almost no reaction to spankings. Sticking him in his room for a period of time does. Errands point was to warn the child that conseqences will happen if the child repeats his behavior, and if the child does it again, back it up by making him suffer the consequences...he made no mention that beatings solve anything.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It appears the Israelis new they were there and killed them anyway. Looks like they pissed off several countries doing this, also.

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Report: U.N. observers' calls unheeded
By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer Wed Jul 26, 6:19 PM ET

JERUSALEM - U.N. observers in Lebanon telephoned the Israeli military 10 times in six hours to ask it to stop shelling near their position before an attack killed four observers and sparked international anger with
Israel, U.N. officials said Wednesday.

The U.N. observation post near Khiam came under close Israeli fire 21 times Tuesday — including 12 hits within 100 yards and five direct hits from 1:20 p.m. until the peacekeepers' post was destroyed at 7:30 p.m., Jane Lute, assistant secretary-general for peacekeeping, told the
U.N. Security Council in New York.

U.N. officials said Hezbollah militants had been operating in the area of the post near the eastern end of the border with Israel, a routine tactic to prevent Israel from attacking them.

"We did repeatedly in recent days say (to Israel) that this was an exposed position, that Hezbollah militants were 500 meters (yards) away shielding themselves near U.N. workers and civilians," U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland said. "That's why it is so inexplicable that what happened happened."

Israeli officials had told the
United Nations that the bombing around the base was part of an "an aerial preparation for a ground operation," said the senior official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Officials in the outpost called the Israeli army 10 times during those six hours, and each time an army official promised to have the bombing stopped, according to a preliminary U.N. report on the incident, which was shown to an Associated Press reporter on Wednesday.

Once it became clear those pleas were being ignored, the force's commander sought the involvement of top officials in New York, a senior U.N. official in New York said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation of the incident was not yet complete.

U.N. Deputy Secretary-General Mark Malloch Brown and Lute herself then made several calls to Israel's U.N. mission "reiterating these protests and calling for an abatement of the shelling," Lute said.

The bombing put Israel on the defensive two weeks into its campaign against Hezbollah guerrillas in southern Lebanon.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert expressed "deep regret" for the deaths and dismay over U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan's accusation that the attack was "apparently deliberate."

Olmert told Annan in a phone call Wednesday that the attack was inadvertent and he promised a "thorough investigation," his office said in a statement.

"It's inconceivable for the U.N. to define an error as an apparently deliberate action," Olmert said.

China called for an Israeli apology and asked the U.N. Security Council to condemn the bombing — which killed one of its citizens — and demand Israel stop attacking U.N. positions and personnel.

"For China and for others, we condemn this because I think any attack on the United Nations positions and the United Nations personnel is inexcusable and unacceptable," China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya said.

Austria and Finland, both of which also lost citizens in the attack, condemned the bombing, with Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja calling it "truly tragic." The fourth victim was Canadian.

"These so-called precision attacks seem to be mainly targeting everyone else except the Hezbollah," Tuomioja said. "The longer this continues, the more likely it is that there will be more similar victims."

White House spokesman Tony Snow described the strike as a "horrible thing," but said Israel was behaving responsibly in its aftermath.

"They'll be completely transparent in the way they conduct the investigation," Snow said. "And I think that's the appropriate way to proceed."

U.N. officials said the observation position was well marked. A picture the world body released Wednesday showed the three-story building was painted white with the letters "U.N." emblazoned in large black letters on all sides, and a light blue U.N. flag hung from a nearby flagpole that was roughly 50 feet high. Witnesses said the building, which was surrounded by concrete blast walls and barbed wire, also had the letters U.N. painted on the roof and it was illuminated by floodlights at night.

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[DBruleU]

It appears the Israelis new they were there and killed them anyway. Looks like they pissed off several countries doing this, also.

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Report: U.N. observers' calls unheeded
By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer Wed Jul 26, 6:19 PM ET

JERUSALEM - U.N. observers in Lebanon telephoned the Israeli military 10 times in six hours to ask it to stop shelling near their position before an attack killed four observers and sparked international anger with
Israel, U.N. officials said Wednesday.

The U.N. observation post near Khiam came under close Israeli fire 21 times Tuesday — including 12 hits within 100 yards and five direct hits from 1:20 p.m. until the peacekeepers' post was destroyed at 7:30 p.m., Jane Lute, assistant secretary-general for peacekeeping, told the
U.N. Security Council in New York.

U.N. officials said Hezbollah militants had been operating in the area of the post near the eastern end of the border with Israel, a routine tactic to prevent Israel from attacking them.

"We did repeatedly in recent days say (to Israel) that this was an exposed position, that Hezbollah militants were 500 meters (yards) away shielding themselves near U.N. workers and civilians," U.N. humanitarian chief Jan Egeland said. "That's why it is so inexplicable that what happened happened."

Israeli officials had told the
United Nations that the bombing around the base was part of an "an aerial preparation for a ground operation," said the senior official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Officials in the outpost called the Israeli army 10 times during those six hours, and each time an army official promised to have the bombing stopped, according to a preliminary U.N. report on the incident, which was shown to an Associated Press reporter on Wednesday.

Once it became clear those pleas were being ignored, the force's commander sought the involvement of top officials in New York, a senior U.N. official in New York said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation of the incident was not yet complete.

U.N. Deputy Secretary-General Mark Malloch Brown and Lute herself then made several calls to Israel's U.N. mission "reiterating these protests and calling for an abatement of the shelling," Lute said.

The bombing put Israel on the defensive two weeks into its campaign against Hezbollah guerrillas in southern Lebanon.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert expressed "deep regret" for the deaths and dismay over U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan's accusation that the attack was "apparently deliberate."

Olmert told Annan in a phone call Wednesday that the attack was inadvertent and he promised a "thorough investigation," his office said in a statement.

"It's inconceivable for the U.N. to define an error as an apparently deliberate action," Olmert said.

China called for an Israeli apology and asked the U.N. Security Council to condemn the bombing — which killed one of its citizens — and demand Israel stop attacking U.N. positions and personnel.

"For China and for others, we condemn this because I think any attack on the United Nations positions and the United Nations personnel is inexcusable and unacceptable," China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya said.

Austria and Finland, both of which also lost citizens in the attack, condemned the bombing, with Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja calling it "truly tragic." The fourth victim was Canadian.

"These so-called precision attacks seem to be mainly targeting everyone else except the Hezbollah," Tuomioja said. "The longer this continues, the more likely it is that there will be more similar victims."

White House spokesman Tony Snow described the strike as a "horrible thing," but said Israel was behaving responsibly in its aftermath.

"They'll be completely transparent in the way they conduct the investigation," Snow said. "And I think that's the appropriate way to proceed."

U.N. officials said the observation position was well marked. A picture the world body released Wednesday showed the three-story building was painted white with the letters "U.N." emblazoned in large black letters on all sides, and a light blue U.N. flag hung from a nearby flagpole that was roughly 50 feet high. Witnesses said the building, which was surrounded by concrete blast walls and barbed wire, also had the letters U.N. painted on the roof and it was illuminated by floodlights at night.

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Um, it's, "It appears the Israelis "Knew" they were there..."

Hey, I'm just teaching you....I even gave you a visual.

[Spider]

Um, it's, "It appears the Israelis "Knew" they were there..."

Hey, I'm just teaching you....I even gave you a visual.
is there a smiley for weak ?

[DBruleU]

is there a smiley for weak ?

Yeah, it's your portrait. heheheh

[Spider]

Yeah, it's your portrait. heheheh
speaking of hehehehe has god got ahold of you about your mission yet ?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

speaking of hehehehe has god got ahold of you about your mission yet ?

:laugh:

He's no doubt salivating as he watches the current conflict in the Mid East unfold.

Only a matter of time now until Jay-sus vacuums him up to heaven and leaves the rest of us heathens here to face the four horsemen.

:D

[DBruleU]

speaking of hehehehe has god got ahold of you about your mission yet ?

Now would I even want to take your bait and discuss Christianity with someone who truely has no clue what hes talking about?

Not to mention all your replies are so far out there no matter what the subject, It's a waste of sleep to sit here and reply to your time-wasting crapola.

[Spider]

Now would I even want to take your bait and discuss Christianity with someone who truely has no clue what hes talking about?

Not to mention all your replies are so far out there no matter what the subject, It's a waste of sleep to sit here and reply to your time-wasting crapola.
easy there christian soldier , I just asked a question is all ......... meditate relax , pray for understanding and tolerence ........ then feel free to answer my question

[DBruleU]

easy there christian soldier , I just asked a question is all ......... meditate relax , pray for understanding and tolerence ........ then feel free to answer my question

Spider, the fact you need an answer to such a question, reveals you dont understand what you are talking about. But what else is new? It's clear you just like to push everyones button, and love to argue.

Now, off to bed. Goodnight.

[Spider]

Spider, the fact you need an answer to such a question, reveals you dont understand what you are talking about. But what else is new? It's clear you just like to push everyones button, and love to argue.

Now, off to bed. Goodnight.
Gee just asked if god has revealed his plans to you yet ......... you are the one that said god had a plan for you ....... Just wondering if had revealed it yet ......

[alkemical]

You don't have to beat a kid up to make em behave...for instance my 3 year old has almost no reaction to spankings. Sticking him in his room for a period of time does. Errands point was to warn the child that conseqences will happen if the child repeats his behavior, and if the child does it again, back it up by making him suffer the consequences...he made no mention that beatings solve anything.


Might is right, or at least that's what the good americans chant.....

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Um, it's, "It appears the Israelis "Knew" they were there..."

Hey, I'm just teaching you....I even gave you a visual.

The word is "knew". Note that it's not capitalized.
Just helping you out with your punctuation and you didn't provide a visual, you sited an incorrect attempt at correcting my misspelling of a word.

But better luck next time ;)

[errand]

Then why do right-wing spin jobbers like you always appeal to the authority of the U.N. when you're trying to justify Dim Son's pre-emptive attack on Iraq?


We don't appeal to the authority of the UN...only you leftist clowns believe the UN is the end all and will save the world. We point out (correctly too I might add) that the UN resolutions are worthless...pretty much like the Dems are when it comes to National Security.

We know the UN is impotent...and is either unable or unwilling to do anything. So, we believe that rather than wait on the UN (rocks don't live that long) to enforce whatever resolutions they impose, the US should.

As for pre-emptive strikes...if I'm gonna be in a fight, I don't mind throwing the first punch.

[errand]

I do not condone the unbalanced response that Israel has undertaken, however, they may be viewing this as "enough is enough" and feel that it was the time to act.

Unbalanced response? Was it an unbalanced response when Truman dropped two nukes on Japan..perhaps it was, but guess what?...it brought Tojo to his knees.

Israel is showing the world how you deal with radical Islam......peace thru strength. This will be over when one side's will to fight is broken.

[alkemical]

I always liked to goad the chump to throw the first punch, then i have the moral high ground. ;)

[alkemical]

Unbalanced response? Was it an unbalanced response when Truman dropped two nukes on Japan..perhaps it was, but guess what?...it brought Tojo to his knees.

Israel is showing the world how you deal with radical Islam......peace thru strength. This will be over when one side's will to fight is broken.


What if it's israel Errand?

If the fundamentalists HATE enough to not have their spirit broken, and win - then where do we go?

[errand]

I always liked to goad the chump to throw the first punch, then i have the moral high ground. ;)

......the moral high ground with a busted face. Good strategy.

[errand]

What if it's israel Errand?

If the fundamentalists HATE enough to not have their spirit broken, and win - then where do we go?

As a Christian, I doubt Israel will lose...but that's another story.

The bottom line is this, once they eliminate Israel, Europe (they've already conquered France) and the US is next. Better choose sides now.

[DBruleU]

As a Christian, I doubt Israel will lose...but that's another story.

The bottom line is this, once they eliminate Israel, Europe (they've already conquered France) and the US is next. Better choose sides now.

Ain't that the truth. Everything happening is so Biblical, you had better make up your mind whos side you're going to be on.

[alkemical]

......the moral high ground with a busted face. Good strategy.


You should see the other guy.

[alkemical]

As a Christian, I doubt Israel will lose...but that's another story.

The bottom line is this, once they eliminate Israel, Europe (they've already conquered France) and the US is next. Better choose sides now.


or china will piss them off and then they deal with them....

[alkemical]

Ain't that the truth. Everything happening is so Biblical, you had better make up your mind whos side you're going to be on.


Only if people really want it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ain't that the truth. Everything happening is so Biblical, you had better make up your mind whos side you're going to be on.
Think it's about time to join up then?

[DBruleU]

Think it's about time to join up then?

Join what? I already have. Have been for many years now. What about you?

[errand]

You should see the other guy.

You spout too much pacificism for me to believe you whipped someone who belted the snot outta you. No offense, but if you're heart ain't into the task at hand, well......

[errand]

or china will piss them off and then they deal with them....

China has been helping them...to what degree I have no idea ($$$ or weaponry)...but they don't pass the smell test.

[errand]

Think it's about time to join up then?

No need for you to join up...we already know by your threads whose side your're on.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Israel has nothing to worry about. The UN will pass 44 resolutions threatening sanctions, use of force, and excommunication from planet Earth followed by....nothing.

[alkemical]

You spout too much pacificism for me to believe you whipped someone who belted the snot outta you. No offense, but if you're heart ain't into the task at hand, well......


Maybe i carry more of a pacifist nature because i'm attoning for my past Errand.....

[alkemical]

China has been helping them...to what degree I have no idea ($$$ or weaponry)...but they don't pass the smell test.


yeah but israel has sold china our technology as well.... So what side are they on?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

No need for you to join up...we already know by your threads whose side your're on.
You're reasoning and deduction skills rival some 6 year olds, but not all. You basically never bring anything to the table but Bushspeak and neocon propaganda, deflection and name calling. Have you ever had an original thought?

[DBruleU]

You're reasoning and deduction skills rival some 6 year olds, but not all. You basically never bring anything to the table but Bushspeak and neocon propaganda, deflection and name calling. Have you ever had an original thought?

bwahahahah I love irony.

It's always this and that, blah, blah, blah. "You have the (Insert appropriate skill here) of a (Insert appropriate age here)."

Dude, you do the same thing everyday. In fact, we all do. We all spew propoganda and rhetoric to make this forum look like a bunch of morons with not enough to do at work each day.

I love just cruising this forum daily. I may not have much to say, considering it has all been said by so many different posters, but it's always a hoot reading your stuff. You may be the only guy here that I seriously think lacks a funny bone in his body.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

bwahahahah I love irony.

It's always this and that, blah, blah, blah. "You have the (Insert appropriate skill here) of a (Insert appropriate age here)."

Dude, you do the same thing everyday. In fact, we all do. We all spew propoganda and rhetoric to make this forum look like a bunch of morons with not enough to do at work each day.

I love just cruising this forum daily. I may not have much to say, considering it has all been said by so many different posters, but it's always a hoot reading your stuff. You may be the only guy here that I seriously think lacks a funny bone in his body.

You don't understand little one, I'm constantly laughing at you :)

[DBruleU]

You don't understand little one, I'm constantly laughing at you :)

And I at you old guy. :)

[Bronco_Beerslug]

And I at you old guy. :)
See, we're all having fun. Is that you in your avatar?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

We don't appeal to the authority of the UN...

We know the UN is impotent...



Bullsh*t.

Bush ostriches like you dismiss the UN as irrelevant in one breath and appeal to the UN's authority and its resolutions in your efforts to justify Operation Iraqi Handjob in the next.

You're all about the double standard, Cletus.

[mhgaffney]

This might be a reason why U.N. outposts are being hit:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/hezlove002.jpg

The U.N. outposts have been "sleeping with the enemy" and, in doing so, have provided Hezbollah with "protection."

Jed Babbin explains: "The U.N.'s years-long record on the Israel-Lebanon border makes mockery of the term "peacekeeping." On page 155 of my book, "Inside the Asylum," is a picture of a U.N. outpost on that border. The U.N. flag and the Hezbollah flag fly side by side. Observers told me the U.N. and Hezbollah personnel share water and telephones, and that the U.N. presence serves as a shield against Israeli strikes against the terrorists."

Meanwhile, Charles Johnson spots something in today's UNIFIL press release about Hezbollah's firing positions that you ought to know about, "but aren’t hearing about on the nightly news."

"Another UN position of the Ghanaian battalion in the area of Marwahin in the western sector was also directly hit by one mortar round from the Hezbollah side last night. The round did not explode, and there were no casualties or material damage. Another 5 incidents of firing close to UN positions from the Israeli side were reported yesterday. It was also reported that Hezbollah fired from the vicinity of four UN positions at Alma ash Shab, Tibnin, Bra****, and At Tiri. All UNIFIL positions remain occupied and maintained by the troops."

Hezbollah fighters are firing from mosques. In Gaza Hamas gunmen are occuyping citizen's homes and mosques. That way if/when those locations are hit, civilians are killed and Muslims everywhere cry "holy war" for mosques getting hit. I'm afraid this stuff is going to get a LOT worse before it gets better (if it ever does).


Usually I pass over these inane posts. But this one I just couldn't resist.

Where did RMT pick up this garbage, anyway? From one of the FOX affiliates? I wonder if he could even find Tyre or Sidon on a map. Very doubtful. I'd bet against it.

What were UN peacekeepers doing in a war zone? as one of the sage experts put it. The answer is they've been there for many years -- and once again, this goes back to Gen Ariel Sharon's 1982 invasion of his neighbor (Lebanon) -- a war begun by Israel that killed 18,000. That was another sacred war by God's chosen people, who have been given a special sanction to commit murder and wage mayhem.

Of course, the peanut gallery of fans back here in the good ol US of A who love to watch violence (from the sidelines) cheer on the home team. Go Israel! Hit those aid trucks and ambulances! They've been using the crosses painted on the roofs to zero in with their F-16 target finders! Kill those fricking A-rab terrorists.

The only good A-rab is a dead one. No matter that the Hezbollah rocket attacks began only days AFTER Israel began pounding Lebanon's airports, seaports, schools, industries, electric plants, bridges, government buildings, infrastructure, roads etc etc And don;t forget the Sunni mosque.

Of course Israel studiously avoided the Maronite Christian areas, part of their grand strategy. Avoiding the Christian areas will make them relatively stronger vis a vis the Muslim parts of the country, sewing disunity, which is one of Israel's prime objectives.

This gets to the core of it. This war was carefully planned down to the last target on the ground in Lebanon by Israel -- probably for many months, maybe even years, beforehand. Lebanon's economy only started recovering in the last year from the devastation wreaked by Israel in the 1982 war and from years of civil strife. Its economy was rebounding this past year- - things were looking up. Prosperity was on the horizon.

But Israel cannot allow this. It must keep all its neighbors weak and barely alive -- on life support. Why? Because it makes Israel relatively stronger. This is the way the Machiavellian Zionist mind thinks

This is NOT the policy of a civilized nation. Will we ever learn? Very doubtful -- at any rate, not before Armageddon. MHG

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Of course Israel studiously avoided the Maronite Christian areas, part of their grand strategy. Avoiding the Christian areas will make them relatively stronger vis a vis the Muslim parts of the country, sewing disunity, which is one of Israel's prime objectives.

Remember the role of these "Christians" during Israel's '82 invasion of Lebanon?

The Christian Phalangist militiamen in East Beirut (whom Israel did not attempt to disarm) entered Palestinian refugee camps (which The Israeli army had encircled - prohibiting anyone from entering or leaving without its permission) and systematically slaughtered more than seven hundred Palestinian women, children, and men.

Of course, the peanut gallery of fans back here in the good ol US of A who love to watch violence (from the sidelines) cheer on the home team. Go Israel! Hit those aid trucks and ambulances! They've been using the crosses painted on the roofs to zero in with their F-16 target finders! Kill those fricking A-rab terrorists.

That's why these right-wing jackals love Bush - the chimp's policies allow them to normalize/legitimize their inherent sociopathy and sadism by identifying with the neocon "movement."

[RMT]

Usually I pass over these inane posts. But this one I just couldn't resist.

Where did RMT pick up this garbage, anyway? From one of the FOX affiliates? I wonder if he could even find Tyre or Sidon on a map. Very doubtful. I'd bet against it.

What were UN peacekeepers doing in a war zone? as one of the sage experts put it. The answer is they've been there for many years -- and once again, this goes back to Gen Ariel Sharon's 1982 invasion of his neighbor (Lebanon) -- a war begun by Israel that killed 18,000. That was another sacred war by God's chosen people, who have been given a special sanction to commit murder and wage mayhem.

Of course, the peanut gallery of fans back here in the good ol US of A who love to watch violence (from the sidelines) cheer on the home team. Go Israel! Hit those aid trucks and ambulances! They've been using the crosses painted on the roofs to zero in with their F-16 target finders! Kill those fricking A-rab terrorists.

The only good A-rab is a dead one. No matter that the Hezbollah rocket attacks began only days AFTER Israel began pounding Lebanon's airports, seaports, schools, industries, electric plants, bridges, government buildings, infrastructure, roads etc etc And don;t forget the Sunni mosque.

Of course Israel studiously avoided the Maronite Christian areas, part of their grand strategy. Avoiding the Christian areas will make them relatively stronger vis a vis the Muslim parts of the country, sewing disunity, which is one of Israel's prime objectives.

This gets to the core of it. This war was carefully planned down to the last target on the ground in Lebanon by Israel -- probably for many months, maybe even years, beforehand. Lebanon's economy only started recovering in the last year from the devastation wreaked by Israel in the 1982 war and from years of civil strife. Its economy was rebounding this past year- - things were looking up. Prosperity was on the horizon.

But Israel cannot allow this. It must keep all its neighbors weak and barely alive -- on life support. Why? Because it makes Israel relatively stronger. This is the way the Machiavellian Zionist mind thinks

This is NOT the policy of a civilized nation. Will we ever learn? Very doubtful -- at any rate, not before Armageddon. MHG

Nice, mature post ... criticizing my intelligence for posting something that you disagree with. At no point did I ever say that the "only good Arab is a dead one." Do not put words in my mouth. I'm far more intelligent than you care to give me credit for. At least I can "agree to disagree" ... it's too bad you are unable to do the same.

[DBruleU]

See, we're all having fun. Is that you in your avatar?

Yeah it is, is that you in yours?

[RunByDesign]

Nice avatar by the way, do you adore fat lying hypocritical war mongering radio talk show hosts?

You forgot, hypocritical herion addict, as well.

[errand]

Maybe i carry more of a pacifist nature because i'm attoning for my past Errand.....

Nothing wrong with repentance....hopefully it's working for you. Good luck.

Me onthe other hand, use force only when all other avenues have been exhausted. I haven't spanked my kids in what seems like forever, but trust me, they remember the last time I did, and they know the option is one that will always be on the table.

[NOLA Bronco]

But Israel cannot allow this. It must keep all its neighbors weak and barely alive -- on life support. Why? Because it makes Israel relatively stronger. This is the way the Machiavellian Zionist mind thinks

This is NOT the policy of a civilized nation. Will we ever learn? Very doubtful -- at any rate, not before Armageddon. MHG

Why do you post the same thing on every thread. I guess you feel the need to show your hate everywhere you make a comment.

[defenseman]

Why do you post the same thing on every thread. I guess you feel the need to show your hate everywhere you make a comment.

It's pretty much a broken record...dman

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's pretty much a broken record...dman

So, which of his claims do you hold to be untrue, and why?

[Rohirrim]

Usually I pass over these inane posts. But this one I just couldn't resist.

Where did RMT pick up this garbage, anyway? From one of the FOX affiliates? I wonder if he could even find Tyre or Sidon on a map. Very doubtful. I'd bet against it.

What were UN peacekeepers doing in a war zone? as one of the sage experts put it. The answer is they've been there for many years -- and once again, this goes back to Gen Ariel Sharon's 1982 invasion of his neighbor (Lebanon) -- a war begun by Israel that killed 18,000. That was another sacred war by God's chosen people, who have been given a special sanction to commit murder and wage mayhem.

Of course, the peanut gallery of fans back here in the good ol US of A who love to watch violence (from the sidelines) cheer on the home team. Go Israel! Hit those aid trucks and ambulances! They've been using the crosses painted on the roofs to zero in with their F-16 target finders! Kill those fricking A-rab terrorists.

The only good A-rab is a dead one. No matter that the Hezbollah rocket attacks began only days AFTER Israel began pounding Lebanon's airports, seaports, schools, industries, electric plants, bridges, government buildings, infrastructure, roads etc etc And don;t forget the Sunni mosque.

Of course Israel studiously avoided the Maronite Christian areas, part of their grand strategy. Avoiding the Christian areas will make them relatively stronger vis a vis the Muslim parts of the country, sewing disunity, which is one of Israel's prime objectives.

This gets to the core of it. This war was carefully planned down to the last target on the ground in Lebanon by Israel -- probably for many months, maybe even years, beforehand. Lebanon's economy only started recovering in the last year from the devastation wreaked by Israel in the 1982 war and from years of civil strife. Its economy was rebounding this past year- - things were looking up. Prosperity was on the horizon.

But Israel cannot allow this. It must keep all its neighbors weak and barely alive -- on life support. Why? Because it makes Israel relatively stronger. This is the way the Machiavellian Zionist mind thinks

This is NOT the policy of a civilized nation. Will we ever learn? Very doubtful -- at any rate, not before Armageddon. MHG

I was going to say that you're an idiot, but that would be too easy. You're just deluded by nationalism; no different in any meaningful way from the ditto-heads you deride, but merely on the opposite side of the same spectrum. Don't feel bad. It's a very common affliction these days.

BTW, did it ever occur to you that Israel reacts the way it does because it is a country immersed in paranoia - and with good reason? Read the article I posted on Kissinger's failure to bring Israel on board after the Yom Kippur war. Maybe Israel is not Machiavellian. Maybe they are terrified of extinction? Of course, it would violate the tenets of your nationalism to accept the possiblity that your "side" may have succeeded in inflicting terror on Israel. Like I said, you don't even see the crimes carried out by your "side."

After his last meeting with Sadat, Kissinger voiced his frustration to a small group of U.S. and Egyptian officials: “We see in Israel a society so traumatized by a generation of war that its leaders are no longer capable of making strategic judgments about their country’s survival.”