Who says the French are pussies?

[Mightysmurf]

Zisou says he doesn't regret what he did because it would have made Materazzi "right"

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Zidane apologizes for violent conduct during World Cup final, says Materazzi insulted his family
Zidane apologizes for violent conduct during World Cup final, says Materazzi insulted his family

By ANGELA DOLAND, Associated Press Writer
July 12, 2006

AP - Jul 10, 10:44 am EDT
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PARIS (AP) -- An apology, but no regrets and no detailed explanation on what set him off.

That's where French soccer star Zinedine Zidane left things Wednesday during widely broadcast television interviews that attempted to decipher his ugly head-butting of an Italian opponent during the World Cup final.

He did say he was spurred by cruel insults to his mother and sister. But the exact exchange between France's captain and Marco Materazzi remains a mystery. Zidane never was specific about what enraged him. So, for the moment, the words stay between them.

"I would rather have taken a punch in the jaw than have heard that," he told the Canal-Plus television network, stressing that Materazzi's language was "very harsh," and that he uttered the insults several times.

In his first public comments since Sunday's match, Zidane repeatedly apologized to fans -- especially to children. But he said he didn't regret the abrupt, violent outburst that marked the end of his illustrious 18-year professional career.

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"I tell myself that if things happened this way, it's because somewhere up there it was decided that way," the 34-year-old midfielder said in an interview on TF1 television. "And I don't regret anything that happened, I accept it."

Zidane and Materazzi exchanged words after Italy broke up a French attack in extra-time. Seconds later, Zidane lowered his head and rammed Materazzi in the chest, knocking him to the ground.

Zidane was sent off, reducing France to 10 men. Italy went on to win in a penalty shootout with Zidane in the locker room.

The act of aggression marred the end of the World Cup, with many warning it would tarnish the legacy of Zidane, who retired after the tournament.

Wednesday, he stressed he felt no regret "because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that."

"There was a serious provocation," Zidane said. "My act is not forgivable. But they must also punish the true guilty party, and the guilty party is the one who provokes."

For days, sports fans around the world have been riveted by the question: What could Materazzi have said to set Zidane off in the last few moments of his illustrious, 18-year career? Media from Brazil to Britain hired lip readers to try to figure it out, then came up with different answers.

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics. At nearly the same moment Zidane was on TV, excerpts from a Materazzi interview were posted on an Italian paper's Web site. He denied insulting Zidane's mother.

"I didn't say anything to him about racism, religion or politics," Materazzi told the Gazzetta dello Sport. "I didn't talk about his mother, either. I lost my mother when I was 15, and even now I still get emotional talking about her."

Zidane "has always been my hero," Materazzi said. "I admire him a lot."

Materazzi spoke to Zidane in Italian. Zidane, who played several years for Juventus in Turin, speaks Italian.

Despite the head-butt, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball award for best player at the World Cup -- though FIFA president Sepp Blatter has suggested Zidane could be stripped of the honor.

"The winner of the award is not decided by FIFA, but by an international commission of journalists," Blatter said in Italian newspaper La Repubblica. "That said, FIFA's executive committee has the right, and the duty, to intervene when faced with behavior contrary to the ethics of the sport."

FIFA's disciplinary committee opened an inquiry Tuesday into Zidane's behavior. His red card was not unusual: Zidane was sent off 14 times in his career at the club and international level.

Despite his temper, Zidane is better known for his sportsmanship and dancer-like technique. He is a national hero for the French and a symbol of a young, multicultural France. Born to Algerian immigrants, Zidane grew up playing on concrete in an impoverished neighborhood of Marseille.

President Jacques Chirac has had only kind words for Zidane since the match -- reassuring him that France still "admires and loves him." Many in France already have pardoned Zidane: A poll published Tuesday in Le Parisien newspaper showed 61 percent of the 802 people questioned forgave Zidane.

Zidane said many people have asked him not to retire, but he said he would not change his mind.

"I won't go back on it, at least I hope so. ... It's definitive," he said.

Zidane told TF1 television he was "going to rest, and then move on to something else."

AP Sports Writer Andrew Dampf in Rome contributed to this report.



Updated on Wednesday, Jul 12, 2006 6:56 pm EDT

[TheChamp247]

yea the french can fight, it's just that they ALWAYS loose

[Dudeskey]

Another case of when "keeping it real" goes wrong...™

LOL

[BroncoMan4ever]

Another case of when "keeping it real" goes wrong...™

LOL

That is freaking great dude..LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

But it is true the french will get into a fight but they always need someone to save there a$$es. If not for america the french would b speaking german right now.

[Pendejo]

The Zidane head butting game...

http://break.com/index/zidane_head_butt_game.html

[Kaylore]

The Zidane head butting game...

http://break.com/index/zidane_head_butt_game.html
My Jewler told me about this. Pretty funny.

[24champ]

http://smrtbloned.blogspot.com/france%20surrenders1.jpg

[ludo21]

Another case of when "keeping it real" goes wrong...™

LOL


REP! :thumbs:

[Victor]

I do. The Germans do too. The English and Spanish would probably agree as well. So would Lance Armstrong.

It's probably a long and distinguished list.

[SactownOrangeSunday]

Zisou says he doesn't regret what he did because it would have made Materazzi "right"

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Zidane apologizes for violent conduct during World Cup final, says Materazzi insulted his family
Zidane apologizes for violent conduct during World Cup final, says Materazzi insulted his family

By ANGELA DOLAND, Associated Press Writer
July 12, 2006

AP - Jul 10, 10:44 am EDT
More Photos



PARIS (AP) -- An apology, but no regrets and no detailed explanation on what set him off.

That's where French soccer star Zinedine Zidane left things Wednesday during widely broadcast television interviews that attempted to decipher his ugly head-butting of an Italian opponent during the World Cup final.

He did say he was spurred by cruel insults to his mother and sister. But the exact exchange between France's captain and Marco Materazzi remains a mystery. Zidane never was specific about what enraged him. So, for the moment, the words stay between them.

"I would rather have taken a punch in the jaw than have heard that," he told the Canal-Plus television network, stressing that Materazzi's language was "very harsh," and that he uttered the insults several times.

In his first public comments since Sunday's match, Zidane repeatedly apologized to fans -- especially to children. But he said he didn't regret the abrupt, violent outburst that marked the end of his illustrious 18-year professional career.

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"I tell myself that if things happened this way, it's because somewhere up there it was decided that way," the 34-year-old midfielder said in an interview on TF1 television. "And I don't regret anything that happened, I accept it."

Zidane and Materazzi exchanged words after Italy broke up a French attack in extra-time. Seconds later, Zidane lowered his head and rammed Materazzi in the chest, knocking him to the ground.

Zidane was sent off, reducing France to 10 men. Italy went on to win in a penalty shootout with Zidane in the locker room.

The act of aggression marred the end of the World Cup, with many warning it would tarnish the legacy of Zidane, who retired after the tournament.

Wednesday, he stressed he felt no regret "because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that."

"There was a serious provocation," Zidane said. "My act is not forgivable. But they must also punish the true guilty party, and the guilty party is the one who provokes."

For days, sports fans around the world have been riveted by the question: What could Materazzi have said to set Zidane off in the last few moments of his illustrious, 18-year career? Media from Brazil to Britain hired lip readers to try to figure it out, then came up with different answers.

Materazzi has acknowledged he insulted Zidane, without giving specifics. At nearly the same moment Zidane was on TV, excerpts from a Materazzi interview were posted on an Italian paper's Web site. He denied insulting Zidane's mother.

"I didn't say anything to him about racism, religion or politics," Materazzi told the Gazzetta dello Sport. "I didn't talk about his mother, either. I lost my mother when I was 15, and even now I still get emotional talking about her."

Zidane "has always been my hero," Materazzi said. "I admire him a lot."

Materazzi spoke to Zidane in Italian. Zidane, who played several years for Juventus in Turin, speaks Italian.

Despite the head-butt, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball award for best player at the World Cup -- though FIFA president Sepp Blatter has suggested Zidane could be stripped of the honor.

"The winner of the award is not decided by FIFA, but by an international commission of journalists," Blatter said in Italian newspaper La Repubblica. "That said, FIFA's executive committee has the right, and the duty, to intervene when faced with behavior contrary to the ethics of the sport."

FIFA's disciplinary committee opened an inquiry Tuesday into Zidane's behavior. His red card was not unusual: Zidane was sent off 14 times in his career at the club and international level.

Despite his temper, Zidane is better known for his sportsmanship and dancer-like technique. He is a national hero for the French and a symbol of a young, multicultural France. Born to Algerian immigrants, Zidane grew up playing on concrete in an impoverished neighborhood of Marseille.

President Jacques Chirac has had only kind words for Zidane since the match -- reassuring him that France still "admires and loves him." Many in France already have pardoned Zidane: A poll published Tuesday in Le Parisien newspaper showed 61 percent of the 802 people questioned forgave Zidane.

Zidane said many people have asked him not to retire, but he said he would not change his mind.

"I won't go back on it, at least I hope so. ... It's definitive," he said.

Zidane told TF1 television he was "going to rest, and then move on to something else."

AP Sports Writer Andrew Dampf in Rome contributed to this report.



Updated on Wednesday, Jul 12, 2006 6:56 pm EDT

He isnt French..his family is Algerian or something like that. So the French are still pussies. National motto is we surrender

[Little44]

http://smrtbloned.blogspot.com/france%20surrenders1.jpg

LOL :rofl:

C'mon! He head butted the guy in the CHEST!?!? Any American athlete would have head butted the guy in the FACE and thrown a few punches!! Even better was the Italian's reaction - he fell to the ground as if he had been tazered!

Obviously I am not a soccer guy, but for all the european's comments that our game of footbal is for savages, I would have to say their game of football is for babies; all of the falling to the ground as if you had just been shot acts put on by every player that was even touched by an opponent got real old real fast. :twitch:

[Rausch]

Who says the French are pussies?

There is no more worthless a people, country, or culture in the history of the planet and you have lessened yourself in the eyes of humanity for even suggesting otherwise.

You are awarded no rep and may God have mercy on your eternal soul...

[bronco militia]

bwahahahaha....at this thread..

smurf, you poor bastard

[24champ]

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:rofl:

[Archie]

The Zidane head butting game...

http://break.com/index/zidane_head_butt_game.html

classic.... I saw this live (well, live when the showed the replay) and I just could not believe it.... I really couldn't believe it when they implied, initially, that there was nothing that could be done about it. Regardless of his history he deserved the red card. God knows I would be there with him if this happened to me. But - then I would deserve it too.....

[Kaylore]

There are some hot (http://www.fogliata.net/images/MelissaTheuriau.jpg) french chicks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceSxEjwXHcM&search=alizee)

[Sodak]

French, soccer players? Pussies? I think so.

French, cross dressing, mimes? Not necessarily pussies.

It's the soccer that makes them pussies.

[Dagmar]

I do. The Germans do too. The English and Spanish would probably agree as well. So would Lance Armstrong.

It's probably a long and distinguished list.
Well, Americans are fat, loud and stupid.

[Little44]

Well, Americans are fat, loud and stupid.

Some are. Just like some French are obnoxious, stinky, chain smokers. :D

[Rausch]

There are some hot (http://www.fogliata.net/images/MelissaTheuriau.jpg) french chicks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceSxEjwXHcM&search=alizee)

Indeed.

Who's not turned on by hairy armpits, infrequent bathing, and a woman who'll leave you for a soldier in the next army to liberate her country?

[The Big E]

Well, Americans are fat, loud and stupid.
You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Kaylore]

Indeed.

Who's not turned on by hairy armpits, infrequent bathing, and a woman who'll leave you for a soldier in the next army to liberate her country?
:'(

[24champ]

There are some hot (http://www.fogliata.net/images/MelissaTheuriau.jpg) french chicks. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceSxEjwXHcM&search=alizee)
Alizee probably has the most famous .GIF file in the world....

http://www.mindgamez.com/me/alizee/alizee_dance.gif

[Rausch]

Some are. But the French are obnoxious, stinky, chain smoking, contrarian, self-absorbed, goth-embracing, surrender-happy-temporary-inhabitors-of-their-own-nation-who-think-the-foulest-smelling-city-in-all-of-Europe-is-ramantic bunch of crybaby labias... :D

Fixed your post...

[Rausch]

French, soccer players? Pussies? I think so.

French, cross dressing, mimes? Not necessarily pussies.

It's the soccer that makes them pussies.

Nein.

It's the fact that the frogs embrace soccer that lowers the sport and all take part in it...

[PatsWin2002]

I believe it was Jay Leno who said the other day:

"Zidane is the first Frenchman to attack someone since Napoleon."

Ha!

[Rausch]

I believe it was Jay Leno who said the other day:

"Zidane is the first Frenchman to attack someone since Napoleon."

Ha!

2 cool pts awarded...

[rubaiyat]

That is freaking great dude..LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

But it is true the french will get into a fight but they always need someone to save there a$$es. If not for america the french would b speaking german right now.

On the other hand, without the French, we'd all be speaking...English??

[Rausch]

On the other hand, without the French, we'd all be speaking...English??

If anyone fails to see how completely insane Hitler was point out that he wanted France...

[Borks147]

On the other hand, without the French, we'd all be speaking...English??

well, the queen's english

[broncocalijohn]

French quit on the 2 wars , vietnam and the panama canal. Let us not forget the frenchy on the bachelor show who just got up and quit.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Pastries and kissing...anything else French is cultural navel lint.;D The video of this dude is funny stuff though...

[Northman]

The moment Zidane let his emotions get the better of him he quit on his teamates. Nothing has changed for the French.

[ozomulsion]

I don't know about the French being pussies but I know I'd eat her French p***Y for hours, and days if I had the chance. I wouldn't even come up for air. Give me a break, I bet she tastes like pure heaven.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7253/sho00673kv.jpg

[24champ]

I don't know about the French being pussies but I know I'd eat her French p***Y for hours, and days if I had the chance. I wouldn't even come up for air. Give me a break, I bet she tastes like pure heaven.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7253/sho00673kv.jpg
LOL But I get first dibs.

[ozomulsion]

LOL But I get first dibs.

We must fight to the death. I'm hungry and that looks like the tastiest treat I've ever seen!

[BroncoBuff]

Wow.... she definitely LOOKS like pure heaven.

Who is she?

[24champ]

Wow.... she definitely LOOKS like pure heaven.

Who is she?
alizee Jakote.:)


edit: thanks OZmulsion for the name correction...

[BroncoMatt]

Zidane isn't even french, he is an algerian terrorist, as one of the rumors go. He is still is pussy, he broke under the pressure at the worst possible time and probably cost his country the cup. Although the italian guy had the best flop I've ever seen since Bill Laimbeer, is was almost Oscar worthy.

[ozomulsion]

Wow.... she definitely LOOKS like pure heaven.

Who is she?
Alizee Jakote
She's a french pop star. She's got an incredibly sexy voice and French pop is much better than American pop. Her music is actually pretty good.
Watch this Broncobuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZlgNj-rIxw&search=alizee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Mx7CrMlm4&mode=related&search=alizee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=alizee&v=Z1LYjydBKO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9GcQHdyJss&search=alizee

[LordHelmchen]

Well, well, I don't really get all your hatred for the French. when did that start? Is that really all because they didn't want to go to Iraq with you guys? I'm just curious.
And seriously we Germans do have our reasons,but it's more like a friendly rivalry these days.
And the p***Y thing would actually be more for the Italians. The jokes about the French tanks with 7 gears, one forward and 6 reverse.. that was actually first made by German soldiers in North Africa about the Italians. And wouldn't it have been for the Italians total military incompetence we wouldn't have to go to North Africa or invade Greece to help them, which held back the invasion of Russia for several months and thus the winter might not have stopped our advances... well, I'm ultimately glad that we lost this war, but you know :thumbsup:
And for german speaking comments all the time.. wouldn't it have been for the non vote of the German diplomat, German would actually be the world language.. though I'm pretty sure losing both WWs would have changed that anyway :clown:

[Garcia Bronco]

Well, well, I don't really get all your hatred for the French.

When they surrendered to Hitler without a fight...that's when. We lost many of our English brothers and sisters when that happened and only by a miracle did many survive. So screw the french and they're pussy ways.

[LordHelmchen]

When they surrendered to Hitler without a fight...that's when. We lost many of our English brothers and sisters when that happened and only by a miracle did many survive. So screw the french and they're p***Y ways.
A miracle? You mean Hitler stopping the tanks? Choosing not to attack for whatever reason? But that's really not the point,sorry :)
It's just that I never noticed that hostility BEFORE Iraq, that's why I'm asking. So it's been there before? I find it curious because it seems to me that we Germans don't get as much abuse as the French, which seems quite strange to me if you say the hatred goes back to WWII.

[ozomulsion]

Well, well, I don't really get all your hatred for the French. when did that start? Is that really all because they didn't want to go to Iraq with you guys? I'm just curious.
And seriously we Germans do have our reasons,but it's more like a friendly rivalry these days.
And the p***Y thing would actually be more for the Italians. The jokes about the French tanks with 7 gears, one forward and 6 reverse.. that was actually first made by German soldiers in North Africa about the Italians. And wouldn't it have been for the Italians total military incompetence we wouldn't have to go to North Africa or invade Greece to help them, which held back the invasion of Russia for several months and thus the winter might not have stopped our advances... well, I'm ultimately glad that we lost this war, but you know :thumbsup:
And for german speaking comments all the time.. wouldn't it have been for the non vote of the German diplomat, German would actually be the world language.. though I'm pretty sure losing both WWs would have changed that anyway :clown:
50% of Americans actually know why they hate the French. Over cooked French fries really pisses us off around here. The rest of us just do it because the TV as well as other folks do it to be cool. I love the French for giving us Alizee. I've never had any trouble out of a Frenchman so I have no reason to dislike them.

All the French jokes in America are pretty dumb. Alizee came from an island off of France, it's called Jerico or something. I honestly plan on going there and getting myself an island girl. If she looks half as good as Alizee I'm set for life.:P

[LordHelmchen]

50% of Americans actually know why they hate the French. Over cooked French fries really pisses us off around here. The rest of us just do it because the TV as well as other folks do it to be cool. I love the French for giving us Alizee. I've never had any trouble out of a Frenchman so I have no reason to dislike them.

All the French jokes in America are pretty dumb. Alizee came from an island off of France, it's called Jerico or something. I honestly plan on going there and getting myself an island girl. If she looks half as good as Alizee I'm set for life.:P
my very first girlfriend actually was french girl.. I would recommend Île du Levant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%8Ele_du_Levant), nice small island , abundance of nice girls plus they usually run around naked all the time ;)

[Nordcore]

sometimes it's very strange to be a french Broncos fan...and the french are supposed to be antiamericans cause of iraq...

[GonzoLays]

I think this whole Zindine Zadane thing is getting blown way out of proportion. He was ejected from the game with 10 minutes left in overtime and Italy did not score while France was down a man. In the shootout, his "replacement" in the rotation made his shot.

So far all intent and purposes, nothing he did hurt his team. What he did was stupid, yes, but it did not cost his team at all

[Orange_Beard]

When they surrendered to Hitler without a fight...that's when. We lost many of our English brothers and sisters when that happened and only by a miracle did many survive. So screw the french and they're p***Y ways.


Dude, that was 50 years ago. WTF?

[chrisp]

I love that no-one one the states gives a flying f**k about the world cup untill someone gets headbutted in the final....NOW you're all talking about it;D

[Rock Chalk]

A miracle? You mean Hitler stopping the tanks? Choosing not to attack for whatever reason? But that's really not the point,sorry :)
It's just that I never noticed that hostility BEFORE Iraq, that's why I'm asking. So it's been there before? I find it curious because it seems to me that we Germans don't get as much abuse as the French, which seems quite strange to me if you say the hatred goes back to WWII.
You weren't paying attention then.

For no reason, the French have sneered at Americans. In the 80s, when Reagan called the Soviet's the "Evil Empire" the French took the communist side.

Indeed, since we bailed them and the rest of Europe out of two ****ing world war's, we have been looked down upon by all of Europe except Britain.

**** Europe. **** Europeans. They think they matter but, like the European Union, they don't make a bit of difference. No one gives a **** what European trash thinks. When countries want to do something, they dont stop to think what the EU or Europeans are going to do about it, they wonde what will be the US response? What will Americans think?

We matter, that piece of **** half-assed, fag praising, muslim loving terrorist harboring ****ty ass decadent society across the pond does not matter. Not to anyone but themselves.

[bronco militia]

http://f10.putfile.com/7/19011070121.gif

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

So how would Za Za hold up in any game with Shannon Sharpe talking trash to him?

[LordHelmchen]

You weren't paying attention then.

For no reason, the French have sneered at Americans. In the 80s, when Reagan called the Soviet's the "Evil Empire" the French took the communist side.

Indeed, since we bailed them and the rest of Europe out of two ****ing world war's, we have been looked down upon by all of Europe except Britain.

**** Europe. **** Europeans. They think they matter but, like the European Union, they don't make a bit of difference. No one gives a **** what European trash thinks. When countries want to do something, they dont stop to think what the EU or Europeans are going to do about it, they wonde what will be the US response? What will Americans think?

We matter, that piece of **** half-assed, fag praising, muslim loving terrorist harboring ****ty ass decadent society across the pond does not matter. Not to anyone but themselves.
oh , don't hold back, now tell me how you really feel about it LOL

[bronco militia]

You weren't paying attention then.

For no reason, the French have sneered at Americans. In the 80s, when Reagan called the Soviet's the "Evil Empire" the French took the communist side.

Indeed, since we bailed them and the rest of Europe out of two ****ing world war's, we have been looked down upon by all of Europe except Britain.

**** Europe. **** Europeans. They think they matter but, like the European Union, they don't make a bit of difference. No one gives a **** what European trash thinks. When countries want to do something, they dont stop to think what the EU or Europeans are going to do about it, they wonde what will be the US response? What will Americans think?

We matter, that piece of **** half-assed, fag praising, muslim loving terrorist harboring ****ty ass decadent society across the pond does not matter. Not to anyone but themselves.


Ha!

[bendog]

Well, they most likely lose WWI but for the US ... but damn, they took a lot of casualties, so assuming one thinks the US involvment was inevitable, which I do, they actually did a lot of good for the US. And, in WWII they didn't exactly surrender w/o a shot. They surrended after they had been outmanuvered and defeat was inevitable. Probably, they had a moral duty to fight a bit longer to help the Brits get out, but ....

IMO, the anti-french attitude in the US is more along the lines that they make no secret in thinking their culture, language and foreign policy is much more polished and advanced that the US's. When I stayed there 20 years ago, I sort of agreed. Sure there were .... well, I can't use that word anymore ... but in general they were very friendly, and yes the girls were hot. Given the racial issues there, I'm not sure I'd agree now though.

On Iraq ... damn, it's a pain when your potus gets .... well I can't use that word anymore ... by chirac, but, well, it sucks when the French are right (-:

But to say he didn't hurt is team is a joke. They had no choice but to play for a tie when down a man. Just cause the Italians didn't score to close it out in OT doesn't change that.

[Victor]

Well, Americans are fat, loud and stupid.

Hey...I'm not loud.

I get your point...generalizations are dangerous.

With that being said, Boulder hippies smell.

[55CrushEm]

You weren't paying attention then.

For no reason, the French have sneered at Americans. In the 80s, when Reagan called the Soviet's the "Evil Empire" the French took the communist side.

Indeed, since we bailed them and the rest of Europe out of two ****ing world war's, we have been looked down upon by all of Europe except Britain.

**** Europe. **** Europeans. They think they matter but, like the European Union, they don't make a bit of difference. No one gives a **** what European trash thinks. When countries want to do something, they dont stop to think what the EU or Europeans are going to do about it, they wonde what will be the US response? What will Americans think?

We matter, that piece of **** half-assed, fag praising, muslim loving terrorist harboring ****ty ass decadent society across the pond does not matter. Not to anyone but themselves.
WOW !! ^5

[Old Dude]

When they surrendered to Hitler without a fight...that's when. We lost many of our English brothers and sisters when that happened and only by a miracle did many survive. So screw the french and they're p***Y ways.

It wasn't without a fight. 90,000 French soldiers were killed in the blitzkreig, and another 200,000 were seriously wounded. Most of the army was trapped in bypassed defensive positions on the Maginot line or with the British Expeditionary Force in Belgium. The British suffered about 70,000 casualties in the same conflict, before they were able to escape at Dunkirk.

[Phantom]

Defacing graves of American soldiers who liberated them is all it took for me. Go Italy!!!

[Phantom]

That article was funny. I'm sure every time we saw a Frenchie mouthing something it was along the lines of ... "Nice butt, your calves are huge, nice shot, better luck next time".

[LordHelmchen]

Defacing graves of American soldiers who liberated them is all it took for me. Go Italy!!!
I'm not familiar with that incident. While it's certainly despicable.. I can't imagine that this was an act that was aprroved by the majority of the french ppl..probably it was just some drunk idiots.. could you provide some info ? and if it was just an act of some stupid few ppl , is that still enough for you to hate a whole nation? That would be like me hating all US citizens because there exists the KKK and the NSDAPoA.

[bendog]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39038000/jpg/_39038351_cemeteryafp203story.jpg

But keep in mind the parable of the bowl. Fr. Frank appoints a chuch committee for some stupid reason. Martha is assigned to bring a bowl. The bowl she brings displeases Monique. Monique complains its dirty. Martha washes it. Monique complains it too large. Monique gets a different bowl. Martha continues to complain about the first bowl. Fr. Frank says "Monique, it's not really about the bowl, is it?"

[24champ]

Alizee came from an island off of France, it's called Jerico or something. I honestly plan on going there and getting myself an island girl. If she looks half as good as Alizee I'm set for life.:P
Yeah interesting, promised myself not to visit France but if theres 100 Alizee's running around on that Island then I will be there! ^5

[Iowanian]

The French Are pussies.

My biggest surprise with the entire fiasco was that it was shocking to see a Frenchman fight back.

Then, I realized he was born in Africa, so it probably doesn't really count.

The true test of his Frenchness would have been if the Italian had gotten up and fought back, if he cowered and cried in the middle of the field.

French.......shaw.....Even with 1 ball, Lance Armstrong beat them 7 times in a row at their own game, even with locals trying to interfere.

A 1 balled American proved he has more balls than France.

[55CrushEm]

A 1 balled American proved he has more balls than France.
LOL

[Phantom]

I'm not familiar with that incident. While it's certainly despicable.. I can't imagine that this was an act that was aprroved by the majority of the french ppl..probably it was just some drunk idiots.. could you provide some info ? and if it was just an act of some stupid few ppl , is that still enough for you to hate a whole nation? That would be like me hating all US citizens because there exists the KKK and the NSDAPoA.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2907701.stm

The French poll on "which side do you support" is disgusting ....

34% - support US-led forces
25% - support Iraq
31% - support neither side

So basically 56% of French doesn't favor the Americans. Arrogant, self absorbed, disrespectful, worthless, underhanded, whimpy. Go Italy!!!

[bendog]

Well, something like 2/3's of US just want the troops home, and figure bushii at best made a mistake.

[LordHelmchen]

The French Are pussies.

My biggest surprise with the entire fiasco was that it was shocking to see a Frenchman fight back.

Then, I realized he was born in Africa, so it probably doesn't really count.

The true test of his Frenchness would have been if the Italian had gotten up and fought back, if he cowered and cried in the middle of the field.

French.......shaw.....Even with 1 ball, Lance Armstrong beat them 7 times in a row at their own game, even with locals trying to interfere.

A 1 balled American proved he has more balls than France.

He was born in France, so he does count.

At their own game? Since when is cycling a french thingy? Just because the most important cycling tour happens to be in France, doesn't mean it's a french thingy.

but still, that was funny LOL

[LordHelmchen]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2907701.stm

The French poll on "which side do you support" is disgusting ....

34% - support US-led forces
25% - support Iraq
31% - support neither side

So basically 56% of French doesn't favor the Americans. Arrogant, self absorbed, disrespectful, worthless, underhanded, whimpy. Go Italy!!!

Is it? First of all the poll has nothing to do with that incident. Second of all, isn't it arrogant and self absorbed that the majority French have to favor the US at all times?

[bendog]

He was born in France, so he does count.

At their own game? Since when is cycling a french thingy? Just because the most important cycling tour happens to be in France, doesn't mean it's a french thingy.

but still, that was funny LOL
It's funny. Lemond really did beat the last great Frency cyclist, Hinot, but the French seem to like him ok. They liked him ok when he raced and they still seem to have no issue with him. I really don't understand what the issue is with Armstrong and the French. I figure he was doping, but .... so's everyone else. Lemond's bitch with Armstrong is that Lemond is that Lemond was very possibly a better cyclist.

What you're seeing on this board is just xenophobia. It becomes apparant when any country is isolated. It was even worse in the early 70s.

[Phantom]

Is it? First of all the poll has nothing to do with that incident. Second of all, isn't it arrogant and self absorbed that the majority French have to favor the US at all times?

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum23/HTML/005606.html

Here's another nugget. Sorry the link is gone, but story is copied in the message thread.

No, French don't have to support the US and true the vandals don't represent the country as a whole, but it seems to represent the majority.

[LordHelmchen]

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/Forum23/HTML/005606.html

Here's another nugget. Sorry the link is gone, but story is copied in the message thread.

No, French don't have to support the US and true the vandals don't represent the country as a whole, but it seems to represent the majority.

That act is despicable as well.. and I can understand how it can feed the tensions, and make you angry, but still I do not believe it represents the majority. Just like vandalizing the holocaust memorial in Berlin doesn't mean that all of Germany jumped on the Nazi bandwagon again...

[Victor]

What you're seeing on this board is just xenophobia. It becomes apparant when any country is isolated. It was even worse in the early 70s.

Thank you Dr. Freud. I was wondering what was compelling me to dish on the French and now I know...I'm xenophobic. I hate those Xeno's.

And in the early 70's, I believe that I was much younger. And worse.

[Nordcore]

As a french I would like to say one word, what I see here is absolutely unbelievable.
Come in France and see by yourself if we are all stupid and antiamericans...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. We have nothing against american people , we are just in disagree with Bush's politic ( and to say the least we are not the lone in the world...) It doesn't mean that we are happy when an US soldier is wounded or killed. I respect all people , american, iraqi... and each victim is a drama.

I'm profondly disapointed cause I truly respect a lot your country and what you've done in WWII. And immense majority think like me. I invite you to come in normandy in june to see if the french don't remember what americans soldiers payed for our liberty. Of course we have some stupid peoples who mixed anything ( palestine, iraq, third reich...) but it's by stupidity and ignorance.

You think that we are pussies, fine. But I remember to you that we've made war all along our history... We are an old (too old maybe...) country who is fed up with war. We lost wars yes and we won some... but now we think that war is a failure, sometimes necessary but a failure. We had war on our soil a lot of time and we payed the cost, it's enough.

And last thing what are the links with Zidane or Armstrong? Zidane made a mistake he was red carded and it's justified. Armstrong won the " tour de france " seven times , he didn't beaten the french...

If I offended someone , I apologize cause it's not my goal.

Sorry for my very bad english.

[Iowanian]

First for clarity...I couldn't give a **** less about Soccer or its players. Soccer is great, if your country of origin has nothing to offer you but the solitude to fill a goat bladder with air and kick it at your neighbor's hut door.

2nd. I had heard on Tv that this guy was Born in Algeria.

France sucks, French people smell like bigfoots' infected dickhole,
they're unloyal, rude, condecending, stupid and cowardly people.

Ally mcBeal has more balls than France.

If the Italian called his mother a whore, I hope that headbutt hurt.





He was born in France, so he does count.

At their own game? Since when is cycling a french thingy? Just because the most important cycling tour happens to be in France, doesn't mean it's a french thingy.

but still, that was funny LOL

[LordHelmchen]

First for clarity...I couldn't give a **** less about Soccer or its players. Soccer is great, if your country of origin has nothing to offer you but the solitude to fill a goat bladder with air and kick it at your neighbor's hut door.

2nd. I had heard on Tv that this guy was Born in Algeria.

France sucks, French people smell like bigfoots' infected dickhole,
they're unloyal, rude, condecending, stupid and cowardly people.

Ally mcBeal has more balls than France.

If the Italian called his mother a whore, I hope that headbutt hurt.

might I add ignorant to the generalization list Dagmar posted before? I think it should be on top of that list LOL

[bendog]

As a french I would like to say one word, what I see here is absolutely unbelievable.
Come in France and see by yourself if we are all stupid and antiamericans...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. We have nothing against american people , we are just in disagree with Bush's politic ( and to say the least we are not the lone in the world...) It doesn't mean that we are happy when an US soldier is wounded or killed. I respect all people , american, iraqi... and each victim is a drama.

I'm profondly disapointed cause I truly respect a lot your country and what you've done in WWII. And immense majority think like me. I invite you to come in normandy in june to see if the french don't remember what americans soldiers payed for our liberty. Of course we have some stupid peoples who mixed anything ( palestine, iraq, third reich...) but it's by stupidity and ignorance.

You think that we are pussies, fine. But I remember to you that we've made war all along our history... We are an old (too old maybe...) country who is fed up with war. We lost wars yes and we won some... but now we think that war is a failure, sometimes necessary but a failure. We had war on our soil a lot of time and we payed the cost, it's enough.

And last thing what are the links with Zidane or Armstrong? Zidane made a mistake he was red carded and it's justified. Armstrong won the " tour de france " seven times , he didn't beaten the french...

If I offended someone , I apologize cause it's not my goal.

Sorry for my very bad english.

Exactly. I don't understand the Armstrong thing. Now if Lemond was unpopular, I could sort of see it. But to think that Armstrong uses some substance that Ulrich doesn't .... I just don't see that. Armstrong won more tours and dominated his era as much as any other cyclist. I don't see why he should be disliked as much as he seems to be.

With bushii and iraq. We seem to forget the French offered 10K troops and money if we got that second UN sec council resolution. But they wanted long term nation building, and bushii was convinced the iraqies would all love chalabi as their new jefe. Wrong. But it's really more than that. Johnny Depp was right when he said somehting about America being a very large, very young dog with large teeth. But I think what makes Americans angry is that they think that the US put forth more effort per man/dollar/franc/euro to defend against aggression than other countries do. And that's probably correct, though the counter is that our lifestyle has been so affluent because other countries LEND us their money cause they see us as stable and able to protect their money, but we don't like to face that. And the French make the most obvious targets cause they're not into being "americanized" in food and culture.

You have by far the nicest county to cycle I've yet seen, and people were most always nice to me, esp when they saw a bicycle. I don't know that I'd want to cycle it alone now though, not in the political climate. Drunk English louts were fairly dangerous, but with a few incidents, people in France didn't want to kill me for being an American.

[mecklenburg77]

Damn right he's a pussy! Who headbutt's someone in the chest??? WTF? Punch a man in the face! Man Law, The French are Pussies

[Rock Chalk]

As a french I would like to say one word, what I see here is absolutely unbelievable.
Come in France and see by yourself if we are all stupid and antiamericans...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. We have nothing against american people , we are just in disagree with Bush's politic ( and to say the least we are not the lone in the world...) It doesn't mean that we are happy when an US soldier is wounded or killed. I respect all people , american, iraqi... and each victim is a drama.

I'm profondly disapointed cause I truly respect a lot your country and what you've done in WWII. And immense majority think like me. I invite you to come in normandy in june to see if the french don't remember what americans soldiers payed for our liberty. Of course we have some stupid peoples who mixed anything ( palestine, iraq, third reich...) but it's by stupidity and ignorance.

You think that we are pussies, fine. But I remember to you that we've made war all along our history... We are an old (too old maybe...) country who is fed up with war. We lost wars yes and we won some... but now we think that war is a failure, sometimes necessary but a failure. We had war on our soil a lot of time and we payed the cost, it's enough.

And last thing what are the links with Zidane or Armstrong? Zidane made a mistake he was red carded and it's justified. Armstrong won the " tour de france " seven times , he didn't beaten the french...

If I offended someone , I apologize cause it's not my goal.

Sorry for my very bad english.
No offense taken.

Your opinion is an opinion and about as relevant to American's as French politics. Because, as I have stated, the French and indeed, most of Europe, just doesnt matter. They believe that they are somehow important, but, in the end, just some posturing appeasers who, in their long and self-important history have done nothing but cause trouble. Indeed, the world in which we live today is a direct result of the failures of the European governments and their people on a global scale. The Middle East's current state of affairs is a direct result of the failures of European policy and failed colonialism in the early and mid parts of last century.

Where does America fit in? Same place it has for the last century, fixing the mistakes of European elitists.

Yet, we are the bad guys to Europe.

As I said, **** Europe. Self-indulgant pricks. Leave the world a mess and expect us to clean it up then criticise when we do.

[bendog]

Damn right he's a p***Y! Who headbutt's someone in the chest??? WTF? Punch a man in the face! Man Law, The French are Pussies
Personally, I'd of waited till one minute, and then headbutted the guy, and if he flopped like that I might have sack kicked him too.

[Iowanian]

I would like to thank the French for something.
That Louisiana Purchase was a great deal.

I've traveled in Europe some, have had French People live in my home, and my grandfather was a medic in the 101 in WWII. I don't form my opinion from a completely uninformed pov.

After my last trip to Mexico, where I made the mistake of staying in a resort apparently popular with French, I decided the most annoying noise in the world, is a kid whining, in French...and the fat, speedo laden father, trying to appease him.

Now for the good.

I'm glad the WC is over, and talk of soccer will soon be over in the US for another 4 years.

[PatsWin2002]

Sorry for my very bad english.

Better than being forced to speak German! ;D

(Ooohh, I felt like Alec just then.......)

[LordHelmchen]

Better than being forced to speak German! ;D

(Ooohh, I felt like Alec just then.......)
Dude, German rocks Ha!

[freak6]

French give us more intel on terrorism than any other country, and they continue to be our best ally and source in this war.

[PatsWin2002]

...and don't forget that big copper monument lady thing they gave us. :)

[Garcia Bronco]

It wasn't without a fight. 90,000 French soldiers were killed in the blitzkreig, and another 200,000 were seriously wounded. Most of the army was trapped in bypassed defensive positions on the Maginot line or with the British Expeditionary Force in Belgium. The British suffered about 70,000 casualties in the same conflict, before they were able to escape at Dunkirk.

Many more still surrendered without firing a shot.

[Rock Chalk]

...and don't forget that big copper monument lady thing they gave us. :)
We had to chisel the armpit hair off before we put it up though.

[Garcia Bronco]

...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. .

Because they were taking money under the table for the food for oil program and Iraq owed them money

[LordHelmchen]

We had to chisel the armpit hair off before we put it up though.
are you sure you aren't confusing them with the Italians :clown:

[bendog]

Many more still surrendered without firing a shot.
So did GI's at Kasserine Pass. Your pt is that somehow one should die hopelessly to preserve honor?

[bendog]

Because they were taking money under the table for the food for oil program and Iraq owed them money
And HAL isn't doing that now?

[TailgateNut]

We had to chisel the armpit hair off before we put it up though.


ROFL!

[Rock Chalk]

are you sure you aren't confusing them with the Italians :clown:
You got issues with Italy you should resolve before you start pointing fingers at American bias against France.

[LordHelmchen]

You got issues with Italy you should resolve before you start pointing fingers at American bias against France.
I certainly don't have any issues with Italy since I'm dating an Italian girl since 10 years now, and her bro is my best friend. I usually spent each summer in Italy with her family. It's just that the arm pit thingy is here more known to be an Italian thing than a French thing.

[Phantom]

Dude, German rocks Ha!

France would have more heavy metal bands.
German makes a great heavy metal dialect.

:thumbs:

[LordHelmchen]

France would have more heavy metal bands.
German makes a great heavy metal dialect.

:thumbs:
now that is a good post !Booya!

[bendog]

I certainly don't have any issues with Italy since I'm dating an Italian girl since 10 years now, and her bro is my best friend. I usually spent each summer in Italy with her family. It's just that the arm pit thingy is here more known to be an Italian thing than a French thing.
10 years and she hasn't made you marry here, and you spend summer's in Italy. God I hate you from my cubicle in hell.

[watermock]

To think there wasn't Nazi collaboration is naive. When the allies invaded Vichey France (southern coast area that was basically a puppet state administered by French), it wasn't sure that the French wouldn't actually fight for the Germans...they actually started to and some shots were fired, but they quickly surrendered.

This video is a dramatization of that event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg&search=fainting%20goats

[BroncoInferno]

Many more still surrendered without firing a shot.

What are you talking about? People surrender all the time in wars "without firing a shot" when the choice becomes surrender or die. They're called POWs. American soldiers surrender on occasion, too, when their situation becomes periless. The idea that the French just rolled over for Hitler is wrong. They were overwhelmed by a better army that caught them off guard.

[bendog]

To think there wasn't Nazi collaboration is naive. When the allies invaded Vichey France (southern coast area that was basically a puppet state administered by French), it wasn't sure that the French wouldn't actually fight for the Germans...they actually started to and some shots were fired, but they quickly surrendered.

This video is a dramatization of that event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg&search=fainting%20goats
Take a fifth and check back in tomorrow.

[Iowanian]

French give us more intel on terrorism than any other country, and they continue to be our best ally and source in this war.

They still have made pubic effort to sway the EU to work against the US on many world affairs, had their hands dirty in the Oil for Food in Iraq, along with Russia Germany, who ironically all 3 opposed US efforts and were willing to overlook the fact that US planes were regularly fired on for a decade.

As for being an ally, in some aspects I think that is true, but they're also quick to sell alot of military armament, tanks, fighters(snicker) to unfriendlies.

I also don't appreciate the irony of French looking down their nose at US foreign policy, when they've had a major part of the disfunction in West Africa and about everywhere else they've colonised.

I'll never forget reading of the disrespect shown to our fallen soldiers graves and comments of having them removed from French soil.

Its tough to respect a civilization with hundreds of years of head start on the US, yet still have failed to master such difficult concepts and basic hygiene and deodorant.


Anyway....this is getting off topic.

Soccer sucks. French Soccer sucks. I don't care that he head butted Ricco Raviolli if the guy called his mother a hoooor. He should have stomped his balls for good measure.

[Iowanian]

...and don't forget that big copper monument lady thing they gave us. :)

Don't forget that French-Indian War thingy.

[bendog]

Don't forget that French-Indian War thingy.
That's cause we were BRITS back then! See where that got us. Idiot Poodle led Bushii into Iraq.

on another note: why did they call it "french kissing?" I mean I know why they called doing it gayly "going greek," but why french kissing?

[Iowanian]

I think its probably because due to inbreeding and genetic defect, alot of early french were mongoloids. One of the side effects of of many mental retardations is extending and chewing on one's own tongue.

When these french people touched faces....Persons from other lands thought it was some enlighted way of kissing, when tongue chewing was merely a side effect of thier affliction.

[bendog]

But I seem to recall it was fun. A long time ago, but I have a vague memory.

[Sodak]

[QUOTE=ozomulsion]Alizee Jakote
She's a french pop star. She's got an incredibly sexy voice and French pop is much better than American pop. Her music is actually pretty good.
Watch this Broncobuff
QUOTE]

I don't mean to bag on your girl Ozo. She's definitely hot, but her Frenchness does not prevent her from lip synching. Apparently this habit is universal with pop stars...

[LordHelmchen]

10 years and she hasn't made you marry here, and you spend summer's in Italy. God I hate you from my cubicle in hell.
It actually gets even better, but I don't want you to hate me even more :thumbs:

[LordHelmchen]

Its tough to respect a civilization with hundreds of years of head start on the US, yet still have failed to master such difficult concepts and basic hygiene and deodorant.


that was mentionend several times and I'm curious if someone speaks out of experience. Because for sure I haven't made any of those observations any time I've been to France, or any time I had contact with French folks.

[alkemical]

That is freaking great dude..LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

But it is true the french will get into a fight but they always need someone to save there a$$es. If not for america the french would b speaking german right now.


If not for the french we'd be speaking english right now, old chap.

[alkemical]

You weren't paying attention then.

For no reason, the French have sneered at Americans. In the 80s, when Reagan called the Soviet's the "Evil Empire" the French took the communist side.

Indeed, since we bailed them and the rest of Europe out of two ****ing world war's, we have been looked down upon by all of Europe except Britain.

**** Europe. **** Europeans. They think they matter but, like the European Union, they don't make a bit of difference. No one gives a **** what European trash thinks. When countries want to do something, they dont stop to think what the EU or Europeans are going to do about it, they wonde what will be the US response? What will Americans think?

We matter, that piece of **** half-assed, fag praising, muslim loving terrorist harboring ****ty ass decadent society across the pond does not matter. Not to anyone but themselves.


Good thing this wasn't in the WRP forum, it might be closed down.

[LordHelmchen]

Good thing this wasn't in the WRP forum, it might be closed down.
dang, that's your fault ROFL!

[alkemical]

dang, that's your fault ROFL!


what that i got the thread moved....

I'm just trying to keep it even.... i wouldn't dare operate under subversive behaviour to prove a point.

[LordHelmchen]

what that i got the thread moved....



yep, the timing was just perfect. ;)

[Dagmar]

This thread is where it belongs now! :peace:

[Garcia Bronco]

What are you talking about? People surrender all the time in wars "without firing a shot" when the choice becomes surrender or die. They're called POWs. American soldiers surrender on occasion, too, when their situation becomes periless. The idea that the French just rolled over for Hitler is wrong. They were overwhelmed by a better army that caught them off guard.

They still surrendered and didn't fight like they said they would and turned their back on their allies. They rolled over indeed

[-Slap-]

On Iraq ... damn, it's a pain when your potus gets .... well I can't use that word anymore ... by chirac, but, well, it sucks when the French are right (-:

This is the part that's just drop dead funny. They were right all along.

[broncocalijohn]

A miracle? You mean Hitler stopping the tanks? Choosing not to attack for whatever reason? But that's really not the point,sorry :)
It's just that I never noticed that hostility BEFORE Iraq, that's why I'm asking. So it's been there before? I find it curious because it seems to me that we Germans don't get as much abuse as the French, which seems quite strange to me if you say the hatred goes back to WWII.


We cant hate the Germans anymore. Cool cars,great food, better beer, most speak english when visiting Germany (had a great time there) and hot babes that like us Americans. How could we hate? We are a forgiving country....just not for those quitters. And it goes back farther than Iraq. French didnt let US planes fly over France from Germany during the Beirut bombings. They are a bunch of Socialist softies who forget the history that saved their country. Plus, I am sure many American guys lost their date from some smooth talking frenchy. How can u compete with that language with the ladies?

[BroncoBuff]

http://cinezoom.tripod.com/jeann1.jpg

Toughest Frenchman ever: Joan of Arc!

[LordHelmchen]

We cant hate the Germans anymore. Cool cars,great food, better beer, most speak english when visiting Germany (had a great time there) and hot babes that like us Americans. How could we hate? We are a forgiving country....just not for those quitters. And it goes back farther than Iraq. French didnt let US planes fly over France from Germany during the Beirut bombings. They are a bunch of Socialist softies who forget the history that saved their country. Plus, I am sure many American guys lost their date from some smooth talking frenchy. How can u compete with that language with the ladies?
glad you enjoyed your time over here ^5
Actually, I do not find the language that appealing when spoken by a guy, but I love it when a girl speaks it :)

[LordHelmchen]

Toughest Frenchman ever: Joan of Arc!


Don't forget him

http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/2960_001.jpg