Indian Train Blast

[elsid13]

damn copycats..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060711/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_india_3;_ylt=AoVm2i.UIThDp0s8JpmRnktA7AkB;_ylu= X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Bush condemns attacks on trains in India By GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 13 minutes ago



President Bush expressed outrage Tuesday at the deadly attacks on commuter trains in India and said the United States stood with India in the war on terror.

"The United States stands with the people and the government of India and condemns in the strongest terms these atrocities, which were committed against innocent people as they went about their daily lives," Bush said in a written statement issued Tuesday evening while he was traveling in Wisconsin.

"Such acts only strengthen the resolve of the international community to stand united against terrorism and to declare unequivocally that there is no justification for the vicious murder of innocent people," he said.

Earlier, while at an Allen-Edmonds Shoe Corp. factory in Port Washington, Wis., Bush had declined to react in person to the bombs. "No comments today, thank you very much," he told reporters who asked about the attacks.

In Washington, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she had no information on who was responsible. Other officials said radical Islamic groups may be to blame.

"Let me just say that we condemn thoroughly this terrible terrorist incident," Rice said during a photo session with the Serbian prime minister.

She added, "This kind of hideous incident can happen anywhere in the world against innocent people."

Earlier, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States would provide help should Indian authorities request it.

India's ambassador to the United States, Ronen Sen, said officials' top priority was to attend to hundreds of injured and to contact relatives of victims. Officials also were investigating details of the blasts, Sen said.

"We have, unfortunately, faced these kinds of situations in the past," he said in an interview with The Associated Press, referring to similar serial blasts in 1993 with targets that included the Bombay Stock Exchange, which killed more than 250 people, and other attacks.

"Our people are resilient," he said. "It's not going to affect our economy."

Two U.S. officials said the attacks matched the methods previously used by Islamic extremist groups that have been active in India during the past several years: Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, or Army of the Righteous, and Jaish-e-Mohammad, or Army of Mohammed.

Sen said that while it was too early to say who was responsible, "the pattern is similar" to past operations by those group

[epicSocialism4tw]

Jihad!

[SteveTensi13]

"There is no terrorist threat"

-Michael Moore.

[elsid13]

"There is no terrorist threat"

-Michael Moore.

Is there a reason that you posted that quote? The conflict that occuring in India has it origins in the break of the British Colony Empire in India.

It is really a lesson on how, the world is getting smaller.

[SteveTensi13]

Is there a reason that you posted that quote? The conflict that occuring in India has it origins in the break of the British Colony Empire in India.

It is really a lesson on how, the world is getting smaller.

Because Moore said there is no terrorist threat. Yet we have terrorism around the globe and like a typical liberal he wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend it's not there. As far as your assertion that this act is derived from some sort of break up of the British empire your already making assumptions this has something to do with the Kashmir region dispute. No I believe it has more to do with Islamo-fascists trying to gain a foothold in another non-Islamic country at their doorstep.

[elsid13]

Because Moore said there is no terrorist threat. Yet we have terrorism around the globe and like a typical liberal he wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend it's not there. As far as your assertion that this act is derived from some sort of break up of the British empire your already making assumptions this has something to do with the Kashmir region dispute. No I believe it has more to do with Islamo-fascists trying to gain a foothold in another non-Islamic country at their doorstep.

Since a Kashmir group claimed responsibility, I would say that it has very good chance it has to do with that conflict.

[SteveTensi13]

Well, based on the article you posted no one has claimed responsibility.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Because Moore said there is no terrorist threat.

Link?

Quote? (With context, please.)

Note: Rush the Junkie doesn't count.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

....like a typical liberal he wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend it's not there.

You mean like Bush did when he was warned over and over that al Qaeda was determined to strike inside the US?

[SteveTensi13]

Link?

Quote? (With context, please.)

Note: Rush the Junkie doesn't count.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/03/opinion/main659030.shtml

[atomicbloke]

Mumbai is my hometown and it really sucks. This is an eerie reminder of the 1993 blasts in Mumbai. All such incidents have been the handiwork of Islamic militants and there is no reason to think that this is any different.

Unfortunately, the news of these blasts will soon be forgotten. Just like the London and the Madrid blasts.

[mosca]

As far as your assertion that this act is derived from some sort of break up of the British empire your already making assumptions this has something to do with the Kashmir region dispute. No I believe it has more to do with Islamo-fascists trying to gain a foothold in another non-Islamic country at their doorstep.
The Kashmir dispute and the battle between the Westernized world and Islamofascism aren't two totally different things, if you ask me.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/03/opinion/main659030.shtml

Just as I suspected: When you made your original comment, you omitted one important detail:

A page later, Moore admits that more terrorist attacks are inevitable, but that his point is that the chances of any individual being killed by a terrorist is small.

I guess taking quotes out of context is one of the only arrows you have left in your quiver when you're trying to defend the degree of incompetence, failure, and corruption exhibited by BushCo and the GOP.

[SteveTensi13]

Mumbai is my hometown and it really sucks. This is an eerie reminder of the 1993 blasts in Mumbai. All such incidents have been the handiwork of Islamic militants and there is no reason to think that this is any different.

Unfortunately, the news of these blasts will soon be forgotten. Just like the London and the Madrid blasts.

That's why I beleive every news cast should start with a replay of the WTC towers coming down. As far as the libs are concerned the attacks never happened.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

That's why I beleive every news cast should start with a replay of the WTC towers coming down. As far as the libs are concerned the attacks never happened.

The footage of the towers coming down should be prefaced by the footage of Bush reading "My Pet Goat," Bush cutting brush during his month-long vacation, and Bush stating that he didn't know where Bin Laden was and wasn't concerned about him. Then the editors should roll the list of all the warnings Bush ignored and all the CT work Bush sh*t-canned prior to 9/11. It should also be pointed out that Bush appointed Deadeye Dick to create a new CT task force and that the task force never met once prior to 9/11.

As far as the BushCo Kool-Aid slurpers are concerned, none of these things ever happened.

[Old Dude]

Mumbai is my hometown and it really sucks. This is an eerie reminder of the 1993 blasts in Mumbai. All such incidents have been the handiwork of Islamic militants and there is no reason to think that this is any different.

Unfortunately, the news of these blasts will soon be forgotten. Just like the London and the Madrid blasts.

There were a series of articles in Time a few weeks ago about India's economic potential, with Bombay becoming a greater player every day in key modern industries, including telecommunications and banking. Investment dollars are really starting to flow.

I would think that this scares the daylights out of fundamentalists of all sorts.

Also, I imagine that Al-Q and it's mutations are probably all over the whole Kashmir issue like maggots on a wound.

[defenseman]

Because Moore said there is no terrorist threat. Yet we have terrorism around the globe and like a typical liberal he wants to bury his head in the sand and pretend it's not there. As far as your assertion that this act is derived from some sort of break up of the British empire your already making assumptions this has something to do with the Kashmir region dispute. No I believe it has more to do with Islamo-fascists trying to gain a foothold in another non-Islamic country at their doorstep.

Agreed. To deny the terrorists threat is just asking to be attacked by the terrorists you deny exist. Islamo-fascists make no bones about their goal of gaining footholds throughout the world, let alone the west. Perhaps when Moore has an AK-47 shoved up where the sun don't shine, he'll figure it out. By then though, it's too late. All the more reason to take them out before they can hit you on your own soil. Ounce of prevention, is worth a pound of cure..........dman

[bendog]

I don't see the Kashmir 9-11 connection. Kashmir is a region of India that is predominantly muslim and would wish to be in a muslim maj country. More like Pak than anything, imo.

Most muslims don't like our support of Israel, esp when we condemn arabs and muslims for doing the same thing that Israel does without condemnation, and they don't like the fact that we've helped install/prop up regiemes like the shah, house of saud, SADDAM, the new Iraqi govt to insure we get the spice. Personally, I'd like to see us energy independent and Israel cast to whatever fate awaits it without our help one way or the other, but I realize that special interest groups will buy politicians to make sure this doesn't happen.

ps, atomic bloke, sorry about your hometown. But I don't think the madrid and london bombings are forgotten.

[defenseman]

That's why I beleive every news cast should start with a replay of the WTC towers coming down. As far as the libs are concerned the attacks never happened.

Some don't believe it, you are correct. Wisconson legislature is targeting one of the professors at Univ of Wis for just such a belief, because, he teaches that it was all a hoax. He also teaches that the other major terrorists attacks, London...etc...were actually conceived and carried out by our own spec war/agents of the US. The professor in question also says he provides both sides of the argument during his classes. Having heard the encounters of my son with some of his professors and how they ranted and raved about the government , Bush and the rest, my tendancy is not to put too much into his "both sides argument". My son actually was "downgraded" by these same professors, but it is very difficult to prove so he has to live with it. There are a few on this board that believe it was all executed by Bush and co. Sometimes I think it is generated from a genuine dislike for Bush, vice anomsity towards the government in general. If so, then at least I understand where it eminates from. Well, to each his own....dman

[defenseman]

The footage of the towers coming down should be prefaced by the footage of Bush reading "My Pet Goat," Bush cutting brush during his month-long vacation, and Bush stating that he didn't know where Bin Laden was and wasn't concerned about him. Then the editors should roll the list of all the warnings Bush ignored and all the CT work Bush sh*t-canned prior to 9/11. It should also be pointed out that Bush appointed Deadeye Dick to create a new CT task force and that the task force never met once prior to 9/11.

As far as the BushCo Kool-Aid slurpers are concerned, none of these things ever happened.

The sad state of CT prior to 9/11 has many authors. I'll agree to a point that Bush hasn't targeted Bin Laden as much as I'd like. However, we'll get him eventually, I have no doubt...dman

[defenseman]

I don't see the Kashmir 9-11 connection. Kashmir is a region of India that is predominantly muslim and would wish to be in a muslim maj country. More like Pak than anything, imo.

Most muslims don't like our support of Israel, esp when we condemn arabs and muslims for doing the same thing that Israel does without condemnation, and they don't like the fact that we've helped install/prop up regiemes like the shah, house of saud, SADDAM, the new Iraqi govt to insure we get the spice. Personally, I'd like to see us energy independent and Israel cast to whatever fate awaits it without our help one way or the other, but I realize that special interest groups will buy politicians to make sure this doesn't happen.

ps, atomic bloke, sorry about your hometown. But I don't think the madrid and london bombings are forgotten.

This would cause major issues in the middle east in general. We would end up in the middle of another war I'm sure...dman

[bendog]

This would cause major issues in the middle east in general. We would end up in the middle of another war I'm sure...dman
Well, that's true. The muslim world is full of Pak/Kashmir v. India simmering fueds. I think Israel just gives them a distraction, and allows them to move along without ever confronting the issues and finding a solution.

[defenseman]

Well, that's true. The muslim world is full of Pak/Kashmir v. India simmering fueds. I think Israel just gives them a distraction, and allows them to move along without ever confronting the issues and finding a solution.

The solution is pretty simple from where I sit. Remove the distraction. By that I mean, israel gets their fill of it and annihilates some of these groups. Problem is , if it goes full swing, we are gonna get sucked in on this one..dman

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'll agree to a point that Bush hasn't targeted Bin Laden as much as I'd like. However, we'll get him eventually, I have no doubt...dman

Funny how partisanship works, isn't it?

If a Democrat were to take the two sentences you've written above and replace "Bush" with "Clinton" then you would find these statements unacceptable.

[SactownOrangeSunday]

Funny how partisanship works, isn't it?

If a Democrat were to take the two sentences you've written above and replace "Bush" with "Clinton" then you would find these statements unacceptable.

and you would find them acceptable and embark upon a six hour quest to find a single shred of evidence anywhere on the web that would support you. Pot calling the kettle black dude.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

and you would find them acceptable....

...and I wouldn't be alone in that regard:

Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama" ROFL!

-Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.

-Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to underatake a systematic anti-terrorist effort."


Pot calling the kettle black dude.

Nah - just a silly little "I am rubber - you are glue" comeback that didn't work for you.

[SactownOrangeSunday]

...and I wouldn't be alone in that regard:





Nah - just a silly little "I am rubber - you are glue" comeback that didn't work for you.

wow you are still using those comebacks at this stage in your life.... thats pretty sad.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

wow you are still using those comebacks at this stage in your life.... thats pretty sad.

Um, this doesn't work either.

Pointing out your use of the "I am rubber - you are glue" comeback isn't the same thing as using the comeback myself.

You'd think a guy with a "masters degree" would understand this sort of distinction.

:D