Sauerbrun suspended for four games

[Jesterhole]

Didn't see this posted yet. Sucks.


SAUERBRUN SUSPENDED FOR FOUR GAMES

Two league sources tell us that Broncos punter Todd Sauerbrun has been suspended by the NFL for four games, for violation of the league's policy regarding steroids. Sauerbrun, we're told, tested positive for ephedra.

The NFL began testing for ephedra after the death of Vikings offensive lineman Korey Stringer. As Mike Freeman (then of the New York Times) explained in 2003, team lawyers contended in defending against a wrongful death lawsuit that ephedra was a factor in Stringer's demise; Stringer's family denied that ephedra played a role in his passing.

Last year, Sauerbrun was identified as a recipient of steroids from Dr. James Shortt during Sauerbrun's stint with the Carolina Panthers. Sauerbrun told the AP in October 2005 that the stigma regarding the steroid issue "won't go away as long as I'm in the NFL."

An 11-year veteran, Sauerbrun has punted for the Bears, Chiefs, Panthers, and Broncos. He was elected to the Pro Bowl in 2002, 2003, and 2004, and he is the punter of the PFT 2006 All-Turd Team.

It's not known at this point whether Sauerbrun has exhausted any available appeals, which could delay the implementation of the suspension.

The other punters on the Broncos' roster are rookie Jeff Williams of Adams State and Tyler Fredrickson of Cal, who is listed as a punter and a kicker. Look for the team to add a veteran punter who'll be able to handle the chores if/when Sauerbrun serves his four-game sit, and possibly beyond.

[Tyrant]

link?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Great! :oyvey:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6695/mocr101120422452xc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[elsid13]

Paul Ernster come on down......

[TheDave]

Two league sources tell us that Broncos punter Todd Sauerbrun has been suspended by the NFL for four games, for violation of the league's policy regarding steroids. Sauerbrun, we're told, tested positive for ephedra.

OK... what am i missing here

[Jesterhole]

link?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Scroll down.

-Drew

[Clockwork Orange]

OK... what am i missing here

That's what I was thinking, since when is ephedra a steroid?

[JCMElway]

Doesn't Ernster punt?

[JCMElway]

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6695/mocr101120422452xc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Screw you. Your team sucks.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

That's what I was thinking, since when is ephedra a steroid? Pot isn't either, nor cocaine, etc... PFT isn't bright enough to figure out that drugs other than steroids will get you suspended.

[WABronco]

Ephedra is a stimulant though, so maybe it's covered by the steroid policy.

[ro_50]

Not good news.

[loborugger]

Hasnt ephedra/psuedoephedra been banned by the FDA nationwide? It was the weight lose supplement a few years ago but I think it was determined that the drug caused unsafe increases in internal body temp along with dehydrating the user. Couple that with exercise (which is what the users usually do) and that is a lethal dose.

[MechanicalBull]

is knorr on a team?:rofl:

[BroncoBuff]

Paul Ernster come on down......
Yup ...


I wonder when he tested positive? Cause Shanny said he came in with a "clean slate."

Man he can punt! (And tackle and force fumbles, too.)

[~Crash~]

How the blazes did he even get Ephedra !!! That crap has not been on the self for 3 years works good though....

[DarkHorse30]

PFT is the source....citing "league sources". What a scoop.

[Rugby7]

Ephedra is not a steroid but it is a stimulate that is banned under the nfl drug policy. Ephedra was banned by the FDA, however the ban was overturned by a judge in Utah. It is not readily available but I am pretty sure you can now purchase it legally.

[-Slap-]

This is crap. According to Garcia, only baseball players use illegal drugs.

[BroncoBuff]

Doesn't Ernster punt?
He will for 4 games, anyway ...

[BroncoBuff]

How the blazes did he even get Ephedra !!! That crap has not been on the self for 3 years works good though....
Wrong. The Supreme Court of the US struck down the ban ...

[Orange_Beard]

$hit, Guess this is what happens when you dance with the devil.

[elsid13]

Crap they should let him use it, he just the punter. It not like he a real football player. ;D

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Wrong. The Supreme Court of the US struck down the ban ...

Not for long it appears...


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http://ephedra.com/

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Get it while you can boys...



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[GreatBronco16]

So is there anything that says when he tested positive for it? If they didn't catch him after he came to Denver up till this point, how can they suspend him then? That would mean he tested positive well over a year ago. Sounds like BS if you ask me.

[NOLA Bronco]

If he is suspended, even after all the hub-bub that happened in Carolina - kick him off the team. Stupid kicker.

[Sarcastro]

So is there anything that says when he tested positive for it? If they didn't catch him after he came to Denver up till this point, how can they suspend him then? That would mean he tested positive well over a year ago. Sounds like BS if you ask me.

The same thing happened to Welbourn. The suspension he served last season was from when he got caught using steroids while still with the Eagles.

[DomCasual]

Not saying that it won't turn out to be true, but I can't find it on any reputable news source. So, I'll believe it when I see it.

[ludo21]

This hit rocked tho! ;D

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/ludo21/sauerbrun_todd_060117.jpg

[DomCasual]

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6695/mocr101120422452xc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It's good that you remind us all why we don't like you, Bob. You seem almost decent for awhile, and we start to forget.

[Arkansas Bronco]

If he is suspended, even after all the hub-bub that happened in Carolina - kick him off the team. Stupid kicker.
Ah all we need is a FA punter for 4 games we will be alright.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Seems it use to be used by a lot of players.

______________----____________________
PRO FOOTBALL; Some Flout N.F.L.'s Ephedra Ban in Off-Season

By MIKE FREEMAN
Published: March 14, 2003

About one month ago, a National Football League offensive lineman stepped onto a scale in his bathroom. The digital numbers kept flipping over and over, like a Las Vegas slot machine, and when they stopped, the player was shocked at what he saw. He had gained a whopping 50 pounds since the season ended in January.

So he began what was an annual battle of the bulge for many N.F.L. players: a fitness program to quickly lose weight for minicamps and summer training camp. The player said his regimen included taking the popular weight loss product Xenadrine RFA-1, a supplement that contains ephedra.

He is among 10 players interviewed recently who acknowledge that they continue to use supplements containing ephedra even though it is banned by the league and despite the health risks attributed to it by doctors and the federal government. A Florida medical examiner said yesterday that significant amounts of ephedra were found in the system of Steve Bechler, the Baltimore Orioles pitcher who collapsed and died last month, and that it contributed to his death.

The N.F.L. offensive lineman said that he had used products containing ephedra for several years and that it was too valuable as a weight loss aid not to use. He said he believed that the chances of being caught by the league were slim.

He is not the only player who feels that way. Nine other players (eight linemen and one running back, on seven different teams) said in interviews that they, too, currently used ephedra products, almost exclusively in the off-season, despite the ban and possible health dangers.

These players say that ephedra use remains high in N.F.L. circles, especially among linemen, because it is viewed as crucial for weight loss and training. The lineman who gained 50 pounds attributed the increase to ''too many banquets and too many desserts'' and said his usual breakfast consisted of about 20 buttermilk pancakes and 12 strips of bacon.

The players, who spoke on condition of anonymity, say they do not fear adverse health reactions because they use the weight loss pills responsibly. They say they do not fear the league's off-season drug testing program, either, because ephedra leaves the bloodstream too quickly for random tests to catch. A positive test can lead to a four-game ban.

Conversely, these players say, they would not use anabolic steroids because those can stay in the system for months, and so it is far easier to be caught.

The players interviewed estimated that before the ban two years ago, 50 percent to 70 percent of all N.F.L. players used products with ephedra. That number, they said, has dropped, but they said they believed that somewhere from 20 percent to 40 percent of players still used it.

Before the N.F.L.'s ban, the Giants' trainer, Ronnie Barnes, estimated that 75 percent of the team used ephedra.

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[Bob's your Information Minister]

It's good that you remind us all why we don't like you, Bob. You seem almost decent for awhile, and we start to forget.

Oh boo hoo.

[Requiem]

That's a shame and if so, we might have to use another roster spot on Paul Ernster, but the kid does have a boot. But still. . . grr.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Ah all we need is a FA punter for 4 games we will be alright.
If it's true it disrupts team unity and he's our kickoff specialist.
This could actually cost us a game or two which may be the difference of getting in the playoffs or not or home field if we do.

[NOLA Bronco]

Ah all we need is a FA punter for 4 games we will be alright.

I guess, I just don't like cheaters on the team, if this turns out to be true.

[DomCasual]

A nice little "feel-good" piece about Ernster from last week on DenverBroncos.com.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=5720

Thursday, June 29, 2006
A Do-Over

Now Healthy, Ernster Relishes Second Shot at First Impression After Knee Surgery

By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The topsy-turvy nature of Paul Ernster's rookie campaign in the National Football League was encapsulated by an odd four-week stretch in September that defined his status heading into the upcoming camps.

In less than a month's time, he made the 53-man roster, played in the regular-season opener at Miami as a kickoff specialist, was waived and re-signed to the practice squad and then consigned to injured reserve after tearing his right anterior cruciate ligament in warmups prior to the Week 3 game against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Jubilation, anticipation, deflation and frustration, all in one wild month that introduced the seventh-round pick -- who hadn't even been invited to the National Scouting Combine -- to the often-perplexing vagaries of the professional realm.

"It was definitely an interesting season," Ernster recalled. "It was something that I can learn a lot from, to go back and see what I did wrong and see what I can do better next time."

In Week 1, he sent a kickoff flying out of bounds that set the Miami Dolphins up at their 40-yard-line for what would become a drive that put the game out of the Broncos' reach.

A week later, he was inactive after tweaking his right knee in pregame warmups prior to a win over the San Diego Chargers. It was a harbinger of what was to come.

"I had a lot of problems with my knee prior to my ACL injury," Ernster said. "It just wasn't right. I think it was on its way out."

Eight days later, after being shifted to the practice squad, it went out completely in the hours leading up to the Broncos' only Monday Night Football game of 2005.

"It was just one of those things where my knee kept getting worse and worse and worse," Ernster said. "Before the injury, it must not have gotten to the level where I needed to have surgery or whatnot, so it was just one of those things that was going to happen either way.

"I feel it gave me a chance to reflect, learn a lot, sit back for a year and figure things out. It's one of those things -- you can't prevent injuries from happening. You can do your best, but that's the nature of this sport; it happens."

It also gave him something many rookies don't receive -- a de-facto do-over of his initial NFL season, this time with the wisdom that comes from a year inside the walls of an NFL facility. Ernster spent the remainder of the regular season rehabilitating from surgery, then remained in Denver for another month beyond the AFC Championship to continue his work.

"In February I went out and I was hitting balls, because the training room said I could go out and lightly strike some balls," Ernster said.

By April, he was able to expand his routine as offseason workouts progressed.

"I began by punting 35 or 40 balls in April and kicking off 10 or 20 times, three times a week," Ernster said. "I didn't really kick that hard, I just wanted to go out and get the swing down."

Ernster's recovery has been steady. It might not have been so had he torn the ACL in his left knee, "because you plant and that puts a lot of pressure on your knee and ACL. It really would have caused me a lot of trouble, but with the right leg, you're really just snapping it through.

"It really hasn't affected me so far."

If anything, it helped him from a motivational standpoint, giving him a quest -- to prove that the errant kickoff at Miami, which remains the only regular-season kick of his career, did not reflect his skills.

"That's kind of what drives me -- is getting out there again and proving to everybody that I can come back from this and be better than I was and prove that I can do it," Ernster said. "It's in the back of my mind every day. You've got to have something that drives you and gets you working hard every day, and that's what it is."

[NOLA Bronco]

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There were two clips on that run back.

[DomCasual]

Oh boo hoo.
It's not that big of a deal, but still - why do you have to be an a-hole? Seriously, what do you gain, other than making people not like you?

[Gcver2ver3]

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one thing i never thought i'd call you is a troll....


til now......

[jbiel]

Oh well, I guess we'll just have to go for it on 4th down.

[Odysseus]

It's not that big of a deal, but still - why do you have to be an a-hole? Seriously, what do you gain, other than making people not like you?

It's not worth talking to this chimp. He's nothing more than lettuce on the head, fecal material, and a monkey noises.

Snatch his light saber. Throw him under a bus. Pray he finds his goat.

Hog Farmer: I predict GoChiefs will have a wreck on his bicycle while watching porn and masturbating wrecking into Priest Holmes and thus ending his season

GoChiefs (Bo Bo Fat) has this on his DVR on his bike
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087225/

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Is Ernster going to be effective kicking off coming off surgery? Elam may have to pull double duty. Who are you guys getting to punt?

[Vegas_Bronco]

Is Ernster going to be effective kicking off coming off surgery? Elam may have to pull double duty. Who are you guys getting to punt?

Well we won't have to for at least 2 games this year.

[Arkansas Bronco]

If it's true it disrupts team unity and he's our kickoff specialist.
This could actually cost us a game or two which may be the difference of getting in the playoffs or not or home field if we do.
I can see where you are coming from but how much team chem. goes through the punter?

[ROYC75]

Is Ernster going to be effective kicking off coming off surgery? Elam may have to pull double duty. Who are you guys getting to punt?

I hear that Jake Plummer has a wicked left leg to go with that gun slinging left arm.

[Garcia Bronco]

He broke the rules it appears...and he'll pay for that...but this is a stupid rule by the NFL.

[eddie mac]

If this is true then Todd is a stupid fvcking idiot. Like Shanahan really needs this at the minute with all the Lelie bull****.

[Garcia Bronco]

Is Ernster going to be effective kicking off coming off surgery? Elam may have to pull double duty. Who are you guys getting to punt?


I know right...what happened to the good old days when teams just hired an out-of-work soccer goalie

[Hogan11]

I was always a supporter for ephedra...I used it while weight-training and to this day, it's the only thing I found to actually work in the world of fat-burners/hunger supressants. You MUST remain hydrated while using it though ....something evidently, a lot of people either didn't understand or completely ignored.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I can see where you are coming from but how much team chem. goes through the punter?
Because now we have to worry about a punter and someone kicking off, two things that have killed us in the past.

[Garcia Bronco]

I was always a supporter for ephedra...I used it while weight-training and to this day, it's the only thing I found to actually work in the world of fat-burners/hunger supressants. You MUST remain hydrated while using it though ....something evidently, a lot of people either didn't understand or completely ignored.


People like to throw the baby out with the bath water. Frickin knee-jerk reaction because Stringer didn't mind his business properly. The NFL has to ban it for lower insurance costs.

[MechanicalBull]

is this official? haven't seen it anywhere else

[Tredici]

Short memories. This was hanging over his head when Shanahan took him. It didn't happen in Denver. (I know it's a couple of paragraphs but y'all really can read the whole article in the first post.)

Not to fear. Rouen is available....

[-Slap-]

Is Ephedra one of Rush's many addictions?

[-Slap-]

Oh well, I guess we'll just have to go for it on 4th down.
Exactly. Then we'll fake 'em out by having Jake do one of those pooch punts Elway used to do. Not sure how many times we could get away with it, though.

Probably for an entire game against KC or Oakland, but real NFL teams would catch on after a while.

[Tredici]

Ephedra sounds likes a nickname for Ephraim Herrera.

[Hogan11]

Is Ephedra one of Rush's many addictions?

I doubt it just by looking at him.

[Hulamau]

What a numbskull after getting nearly popped last year you'd think he'd learn to be a little more careful.

Now we go back to short KOs and Ernsters leg better be healed so he can punt.

[SureShot]

Get me Tom Vandyken on the phone stat.

[youcandoit1687]

Crap they should let him use it, he just the punter. It not like he a real football player. ;D

he used the stuff to tackle like one tho! lol thats what enabled him to force the *fumble

[youcandoit1687]

This hit rocked tho! ;D

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/ludo21/sauerbrun_todd_060117.jpg

*tackle and *fumble

[Jesterhole]

I was always a supporter for ephedra...I used it while weight-training and to this day, it's the only thing I found to actually work in the world of fat-burners/hunger supressants. You MUST remain hydrated while using it though ....something evidently, a lot of people either didn't understand or completely ignored.

Yeah it works. It's speed. I tried it once, felt like I was taking X, except without all the fun stuff. Had a body buzz for sure, but not in a good way.

My sister took it for over a year and had trouble getting off of it. You aren't supposed to take it for longer than 4-6 weeks I think.

[watermock]

he gets busted for something you could get at a 7-11 a few years ago.

Genius.

[Steve Sewell]

I guess, I just don't like cheaters on the team, if this turns out to be true.

I don't know a single person from college who didn't take mini-thins (ephedra pills) so they could bust out a paper or cram for an exam. Those things, if used intelligently, aren't that bad at all. Now if he's on roids thats a different story.

[watermock]

idiot

[DomCasual]

Not to fear. Rouen is available....
Kill me! Kill me now!

[Florida_Bronco]

Wonder if this is legit?

[NOLA Bronco]

I don't know a single person from college who didn't take mini-thins (ephedra pills) so they could bust out a paper or cram for an exam. Those things, if used intelligently, aren't that bad at all. Now if he's on roids thats a different story.

Huh? The strongest thing we ever used was Mountain Dew.

[Nuggets4]

Huh? The strongest thing we ever used was Mountain Dew.

Same here. Well, that and the crack. But mostly Mountain Dew.

[ward63]

This hurts...I hope Ernster can do the job.

[SureShot]

Same here. Well, that and the crack. But mostly Mountain Dew.


Mountain Dew, coffee, cross tops for me.

[watermock]

Mountain Dew is a baned substance.

[ward63]

Mountain Dew is a baned substance.

When you're a pro athlete it is. It pretty much is no matter what level of an athlete you are. It hurts you so much.

[Florida_Bronco]

When you're a pro athlete it is. It pretty much is no matter what level of an athlete you are. It hurts you so much.

Are you serious?

[ward63]

Are you serious?

Yeah, to me it should be. Any type of pop should be b/c of the carbonation and corn syrup is so bad for you. I just don't think it's worth drinking it. I drank some before my freshmen year of HS football and it killed me so much. I haven't drank one since...

[BABronco]

Our coaches urge us not to drink any soda. Think he said something like two cans a day kills an entire days workout. Never really looked into it.

[kamakazi_kal]

dr. pepper is just as bad as mtn dew.......

i use dr. pepper to clean all the exaust build up in my dirtbikes pipe let it sit for a few days and bam cleans the carbon and oil build up right of the metal and that should say somthing cause the only other way to do it is heat ..... ie red hot by way of blow torch and clamps

thats why i dont touch soda.....imagine what that does to your guts

[Kaylore]

A weight loss drug = steroids now?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

A weight loss drug = steroids now?

You didn't seem to mind last year when Welbourn got slapped with a suspension.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

thats why i dont touch soda.....imagine what that does to your guts

Not much. Do you know how strong the acid in your stomach is?

[Maximus]

Hasnt ephedra/psuedoephedra been banned by the FDA nationwide? It was the weight lose supplement a few years ago but I think it was determined that the drug caused unsafe increases in internal body temp along with dehydrating the user. Couple that with exercise (which is what the users usually do) and that is a lethal dose.

Ephedra was banned by the Govt in pure form, but you can get ephedra in other products like Sudaphed or most over the counter decongestants. He was probably popping Sudaphed by the handfuls!

[Maximus]

He broke the rules it appears...and he'll pay for that...but this is a stupid rule by the NFL.

Well Garcia... I must say you are consistent. You supported performance enhancing drugs in the Barry Bonds threads and your doing it here. Where is the outrage from all the people against performance enhancing drugs...? Fugging Hypocrites!

[Clockwork Orange]

Well Garcia... I must say you are consistent. You supported performance enhancing drugs in the Barry Bonds threads and your doing it here. Where is the outrage from all the people against performance enhancing drugs...? Fugging Hypocrites!

Aren't you the guy whose team was rife with BALCO clients (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6837875)?

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/romanoswkiyar.jpg
http://www.raiders.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/PPMABKDCCKPA/031203stubblefield.jpg
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/robbins0406.jpg
http://www.cytosport.com/images/cooper.jpg

No wonder you're such a shill for the juiced up frauds. :rofl:

[Kaylore]

You didn't seem to mind last year when Welbourn got slapped with a suspension.
I didn't even know he was suspended last year.

[Maximus]

I'm glad you put spittanowski first since he perfected his technique in donkey land. Every team is full of cheaters including your donkeys...

[Clockwork Orange]

I'm glad you put spittanowski first since he perfected his technique in donkey land. Every team is full of cheaters including your donkeys...

Funny, he admitted that he started taking steroids when he got to Chokeland. I guess he just wanted to fit in. :laugh:

[Kaylore]

Funny, he admitted that he started taking steroids when he got to Chokeland. I guess he just wanted to fit in. :laugh:
:rofl: Beat me to it. Don't let reality shatter the fragile ego of a Fader fan. He'll start talking about the 70s again.

[Maximus]

Funny, he admitted that he started taking steroids when he got to Chokeland. I guess he just wanted to fit in. :laugh:

If you'll cheat... you'll lie.... If you'll lie... You'll steal! Romo has no credibility... he was doing the hyperveric chamber and supplement **** in donkeyville... He wanted to have a shot at the HOF so of course he'll use the Raiders as the scapegoat... He was at the end of his cheating spitting, rage filled career! He never had roid rage before oakland??

[Clockwork Orange]

If you'll cheat... you'll lie.... If you'll lie... You'll steal! Romo has no credibility... he was doing the hyperveric chamber and supplement **** in donkeyville... He wanted to have a shot at the HOF so of course he'll use the Raiders as the scapegoat... He was at the end of his cheating spitting, rage filled career! He never had roid rage before oakland??

Just Spin Baby.

[Maximus]

:rofl: Beat me to it. Don't let reality shatter the fragile ego of a Fader fan. He'll start talking about the 70s again.

Here's reality... you have a cheating punter on your team. Suspended for 4 games. If the punter is doing it... how many of those fatboys do you think are taking them?

[Crushaholic]

Would exhibition games count?:wiggle:

If not, do we REALLY need a punter on the roster while going against the Chiefs _efense?:chiefssux

[Maximus]

Funny, he admitted that he started taking steroids when he got to Chokeland. I guess he just wanted to fit in. :laugh:

Refute this
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2062507

He only took them in Oakland though... Ha!

[SureShot]

Here's reality... you have a cheating punter on your team. Suspended for 4 games. If the punter is doing it... how many of those fatboys do you think are taking them?

I think he was out having a beer and your fat kicker thought he was cute and drop something in his drink. Only he mixed up the pills, gave Sauerbrun the ephedra and GHB'd himself....again!

[Clockwork Orange]

Refute this
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2062507

He only took them in Oakland though... Ha!

OK.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2190441

Romanowski said he took illegal steroids for a two-year period starting in 2001 and got them from Conte, the former head of the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative, which has been at the center of a steroids controversy in several sports.

According to that, he began in his final year in Denver when his career was headed downhill. Looks like he was preparing to join the rest of his BALCO buddies in Chokeland when he started buying the juice from Victor Conte.

How sad, the last time your team was relevant, they were loaded with clients of the most notorious steroid dealer of this era. Again, it's no wonder you're such a staunch supporter of juicers. :rofl:

[NOLA Bronco]

Here's reality... you have a cheating punter on your team. Suspended for 4 games. If the punter is doing it... how many of those fatboys do you think are taking them?


The punter was doing roids before he ever got to Denver. Plus, as a kicker, I doubt anyone else (besides Elam) gives him the time of day.

If he is guilty, they should throw his ass out.

[alanm]

Yeah, to me it should be. Any type of pop should be b/c of the carbonation and corn syrup is so bad for you. I just don't think it's worth drinking it. I drank some before my freshmen year of HS football and it killed me so much. I haven't drank one since...
All that corn syrup may not be good for you but the carbonation will just make you burp.

[CBF1]

Hummmm..... Toddroid? He better get to Barry's trainer, atleast he would look more like an athelete when finished.

[broncocalijohn]

Well Tom Rouen is looking for work.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Refute this
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2062507

He only took them in Oakland though... Ha! :rofl:
When you say "refute this" you're actually suppose to post something that would "refute it". :giggle:

[Garcia Bronco]

Well Garcia... I must say you are consistent. You supported performance enhancing drugs in the Barry Bonds threads and your doing it here. Where is the outrage from all the people against performance enhancing drugs...? Fugging Hypocrites!


Honestly...I think if it's done with proper medical supervison then it should be perfectly fine. What exactly is a performance enhancing drug? Steroids?....steroids do not build muscle mass....they heal the body so that more weight lifting can he done....but ultimately the weight lifting is what builds the muscle....what's the problem?

With the whole Bonds thing...it's just hypocritcal to call out Bonds when most of baseball has been taking performance enhancers for a long time.

[Garcia Bronco]

Our coaches urge us not to drink any soda. Think he said something like two cans a day kills an entire days workout. Never really looked into it.


I'm trying to quit the soda...there is nothing good about it for you at all. And all these diet soda drinkers make me laugh.....it's like they think drinking 5 cans a day is okay because it's diet....the diet version's sugar is sythetic and not good for the body at all.


Green Tea

[Garcia Bronco]

Btw...I told a guy a work with that loves baseball and hates Bonds and Romo that his Starbucks triple shot carmel what-ever-the-hell-its's-called is his performance enhancing drug.


Everybody laughed.

[Dendave]

QUOTE]Well Tom Rouen is looking for work.[/QUOTE]

Rouen signed with San Fran

http://www.sf49ers.com/team/roster.php?section=TE%20Roster

[bendog]

ROFLMA, in comes the faide fan to lecture on substance abuse. It's pathetic, like his team.
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[anthonypacino]

I'm sure Shanny knew something all along, either blow back from the steriod thing in Carolina or what's going on now, why else keep a kicker on IR or PS when he has NO chance of unseating either of the starters?

[Smiling Assassin27]

get your ephedra while you can. if the FDA wants it banned (and they do, to appear that they care about the health and safety of the public), it'll be banned once again, IMO.

really, the supplement is a dinosaur. there are plenty of supplements that have less side effects and close/equal fat burning and thermogenic properties.

[El Guapo]

its not whether its diet soda or regular. you build muscle by getting the carbon dioxide out of your muscles and the soda just puts that carbon right back in, negating the workout.

[Garcia Bronco]

its not whether its diet soda or regular. you build muscle by getting the carbon dioxide out of your muscles and the soda just puts that carbon right back in, negating the workout.


I was speaking in general

[bendog]

beer and vodka are still ok, right?

[BroncoBuff]

Kill me! Kill me now!
I'm the governor, and I'm issuing you a pardon -

LIVE, Dom, LIVE!! The 49ers already claimed 'Touchback Tom' Rouen

[El Guapo]

I was speaking in general

it wasnt directed at you, just a general comment.

[Garcia Bronco]

it wasnt directed at you, just a general comment.


Cool...generally I don't respond to that type of stuff...you know...in general. :)

[Garcia Bronco]

beer and vodka are still ok, right?


Only if you're pouring.

[Hogan11]

get your ephedra while you can. if the FDA wants it banned (and they do, to appear that they care about the health and safety of the public), it'll be banned once again, IMO.

really, the supplement is a dinosaur. there are plenty of supplements that have less side effects and close/equal fat burning and thermogenic properties.

Like what? I've tried the ephedra free stuff and it dosen't come close.

[Jason in LA]

I just read the first page. Over the past 4 pages has anybody supplied a link other than PFT? Seeing that it was PFT gave me some relief. They make stuff up all the time. I'm hoping it's not true.

As for ephedra, you can still buy it as a drug, but not as a supplement. I bought a bottle about 6 months ago, and it worked for me. I was at that same supplement store a month ago, and the guy still had some bottles. But he raised the price on it. He said it was because the FDA, or some other group, is making it very hard on the manufacturers. It's costing them more money, so the price has gone up a lot on the stuff.

When used correctly the stuff is safe. But when taking too much of it, then going out and working out in 100+ degree heat, and not drinking water, yeah, you're gonig to be in trouble.

[Jason in LA]

Like what? I've tried the ephedra free stuff and it dosen't come close.

I have to agree with this. I've tried the ephedra free products. It's not even close. When I took ephedra I'd feel that kick. I don't feel the kick on the newer products.

Also, I used to take ephedra when I had a night shift job. I'd always start to nod off around 11 pm. I didn't get off work until 2:30. So I'd take my "Go Time". I'd be wide awake in about 10 minutes. But when I tried the ephedra free products, I had a hard time staying awake.

But I screwed myself up once. I took twice the dosage once. I thought I was just taking one dose. I didn't read the lable correctly. I was shaking like crazy. I was really scared for a minute.

[Jason in LA]

It was just reported on ESPN Radio. Damnit.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I just read the first page.

As for ephedra, you can still buy it as a drug, but not as a supplement.
You should have read a little further.

[Jason in LA]

Ah, okay.

[BroncoBen]

Paul Ernster come on down......

Unless Ernster beats out Sauerbrun, this is going to $uck for the Broncos.

They will have to use an extra roster spot to keep both Sauerbrun and Ernster on the roster. For these 4 games, then they can cut Ernster and bring back a player.

I can't see the Broncos keeping 3 kickers the whole season.
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[Hulamau]

Because now we have to worry about a punter and someone kicking off, two things that have killed us in the past.

It sounds like an over-reaction by the NFL on Ephedra, but nevertheless it also takes a Lame-Brain to first be part of a steroid controversy two years ago that in part got him railroaded out of his old team to then even toy with this stuff knowing its on the questionable list!

Hell Sourpuss, just drink an extra bottle of Jolt if you are looking to lose a little weight or get your mojo going for pete-sake! Chug some green tea each day as well, that will melt some pounds off him.

He really helped pin KCs return game last year and we play them game 2 early in the season when his leg is most fresh.

[bendog]

green tea works? I cut it out and went back to brown.

I was getting decent results with green tea, ephedra (on no run days), and cayenne for bloodpressure and garlic for something ... cholesterol, which is something I don't worry about much.

losing ephedra was a bitch.

[elsid13]

beer and vodka are still ok, right?


Yes, in fact I understand you are now encouraged to drink them while working out. IT call the MOC Workout Plan.

[youcandoit1687]

the problem with steroids is that u essentially cut your life span short by taking it so its an unfair advantage to guys who want to do that as opposed to the people who would like to live longer than ken caminniti. thats my problem with it

[16-JakE-16]

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/DEN/9544477

[spdirty]

well, no kidding.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=43800

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Hey Everyone!! We've Landed On The Mooooooon!!!!!1!1!!!!

[GonzoLays]

Hey Everyone!! We've Landed On The Mooooooon!!!!!1!1!!!!

CGI has landed on the moon.

Disney has landed on the moon.

NASA? HA! :spit:

[baja]

Hey Everyone!! We've Landed On The Mooooooon!!!!!1!1!!!!

I GOT BAD NEWS FOR YA DOC THAT NEVER HAPPENED




http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

[-Slap-]

Can't really blame the guy. If Bronco news wasn't knocked off the front page by garbage threads, there wouldn't be so many redundancies.

[ant1999e]

That's the truth!!!

[GreatBronco16]

Can't really blame the guy. If Bronco news wasn't knocked off the front page by garbage threads, there wouldn't be so many redundancies.


Well there still is this great feature called 'search'.

[Needa Pass Rush]

I GOT BAD NEWS FOR YA DOC THAT NEVER HAPPENED




http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm

Looks like this article is laughing in the face of the conspiracy theorists. :rofl:

[Kaylore]

I GOT BAD NEWS FOR YA DOC THAT NEVER HAPPENED




http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm If you believe this why did you post a link that undeniably proves that it did?

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/images/hoax/impactglass.jpg
Volcanic glass unique to extra terrestrial surfaces
"I have here in my office a 10-foot high stack of scientific books full of papers about the Apollo Moon rocks," added McKay. "Researchers in thousands of labs have examined Apollo Moon samples -- not a single paper challenges their origin! And these aren't all NASA employees, either. We've loaned samples to scientists in dozens of countries [who have no reason to cooperate in any hoax]."

[Kaylore]

Anyway, time for Paul Ernster to prove he can do the job!
http://www.naualumni.com/atf/cf/%7BEC571164-5802-46A3-8205-55EA437E272C%7D/Sports-Ernster.jpg

[watermock]

That's what I was wondering.

"To the moon Alice...to the moon.."

http://www.naualumni.com/atf/cf/%7BEC571164-5802-46A3-8205-55EA437E272C%7D/Sports-Ernster.jpg

Check out those tiny hands.

[baja]

If you believe this why did you post a link that undeniably proves that it did?

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/images/hoax/impactglass.jpg
Volcanic glass unique to extra terrestrial surfaces

Because I'm a dumb shiit

I caught it and changed the link

[Kaylore]

Because I'm a dumb shiit

I caught it and changed the link
The link you have right now is the one that proves it really happened. The title probably mislead you to think it's one of the conspiracy articles.

[16-JakE-16]

I thought it would be ahead of painting and bowling/camping. my mistake.

[Florida_Bronco]

Can't really blame the guy. If Bronco news wasn't knocked off the front page by garbage threads, there wouldn't be so many redundancies.

Now who would ever do that? :griese:

[No1BroncoFan]

I love the conspiracy theorists who think the government can keep big secrets. Hell, they can't even keep top secret military projects secret for more than 15-20 years, max. It's been almost 40 since we went to the moon and yet the govt. has supposedly kept the secret this long?


Ben

[Wes Mantooth]

Can't really blame the guy. If Bronco news wasn't knocked off the front page by garbage threads, there wouldn't be so many redundancies.
A simple browsing of previous threads at this site would prevent redudant threads.

[Paladin]

A simple browsing of previous threads at this site would prevent redudant threads.

But only if they are repeats from earlier threads.....

[Florida_Bronco]

A simple browsing of previous threads at this site would prevent redudant threads.

Mock does his best to keep the front page full of his random thoughts, so I can see why any new guy would think the board needs to be injected with something of actual importance.

[No1BroncoFan]

I hear that Jake Plummer has a wicked left leg to go with that gun slinging left arm.
I love this part of you're signature "Pitt. 34 Denver 17." It's always fun watching an opposing fan roll in the glory of someone else doing what his team couldn't do.

Ben