[Fox 31] Lelie Won't Show Tomorrow

[Nuggets4]

Just announced on the nightly news by the talking hairpiece.

[Spider]

I backed Lelie , was patient with him , but he has to show why we will miss him .giving last years preformance , he doesnt make the grade .......Now if Rod Smith Held out , then I would be in a panic .........

[Sassy]

There's the difference...Rod would never holdout.

[Clockwork Orange]

Oh no, our 3rd receiver isn't coming to minicamp. Whatever shall we do? ::)

[Nuggets4]

I missed hearing which announcer it was as I just had the TV on while working on a project for work, but the sports guy said that he talked to Lelie today who was in LA and he said that he will not be in Denver tomorrow. Asked about training camp, the hairpiece said that Lelie told him he would "cross that bridge when the time came".

[Rausch]

So you pretty much traded Leslie and a 3rd for Walker?

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat...

[anthonypacino]

I have 3 options for what I would like to see happen to Lelie
1. Trade him to a team like the Bears for Thomas Jones or Atlanta for TJ maybe Jacksonville, Minn all need WR help
2. Send him to the butthole of the NFL right now, Buffalo for some wings
3. If Buffalo is the bunghole then SF would be the taint, maybe we could trade him for a Villiage People concert or something?

[Popps]

So you pretty much traded Leslie and a 3rd for Walker?

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat...

As would the entire planet, save a few fatal-attraction types on this board.

I just can't wait until I never have to hear that guy's name (in relation to Denver) again.

What a ****ing fairy.

[fdf]

Just announced on the nightly news by the talking hairpiece.

What a dork. He'll be starting his new career soon as an author. He is already halfway finished with his potential blockbuster: "How to destroy a career worth a million dollars a year--without drugs, gambling, or hookers." By Ashley Lelie.

[Tombstone RJ]

who cares? He's only shooting himself in the foot.

[ward63]

What an idiot!?!?! I'm an idiot too...I wanted either Lelie or Ed Reed that year in the draft and I was happy to get one of them...

[ludo21]

DAng it, I was hoping he wouldnt drag this out.

We dont need him per say, but with an aging Rod, and Javon coming off injury, Lelie on the team would have been nice.

Then if all 3 ever hit the field together they would have been awesome.

O well.... I sure hope Terrell is making waves....

[Vegas_Bronco]

Get Chuck Norris on a plane to LA someone, please! Call Sauerbrun, he'll have Chuck's cell #.

[ludo21]

Get Chuck Norris on a plane to LA someone, please! Call Sauerbrun, he'll have Chuck's cell #.


Chuck Norris doesnt need a plane.

The earth rotates under him to get him where he needs to go!




Ha!

[Odysseus]

I am not convinced we would have done so well with Ed Reed contracturally or performance wise. I still look on that a missed opportunity but my resentment isn't over what we missed in Ed Reed but in what Lelie himself refuses to bring to the table.

[Hulamau]

Looks like he's goin' for broke ( literally :-)

Either:

1. They have a trade all worked out, but not yet announced, or ...
2. They are confident they will have a deal by July 28, or ...
3. He has lost all his marbles

(perhap all three)

He might be doing the full camp hold out thing and then show up for game one and sit on the bench for the season, or however many games he has to be here for to satisfy the FA deal.

I sure hope not, I want him either on the team and fired up to play by July 28 or outta here one way or the other!

[Vegas_Bronco]

What if big George Foster continues to struggle this year as he did last year???? What then, are all of our #1's a bust??? We are on the verge of a complete 1st round meltdown here! Damn! Let's just start trading that pick every year and grabbing the #1 pick with all the trade bait to secure more Pryce, Wilson, Elway and Maddox types and forget about this corroded waste with Onail, Middlebust, Nash (ALF MVP), Lelie...

- CMON DJ MAKE US SHINE!!!

[Kaylore]

No surprise.

[ludo21]

What if big George Foster continues to struggle this year as he did last year???? What then, are all of our #1's a bust??? We are on the verge of a complete 1st round meltdown here! Damn! Let's just start trading that pick every year and grabbing the #1 pick with all the trade bait to secure more Pryce, Wilson, Elway and Maddox types and forget about this corroded waste with Onail, Middlebust, Nash (ALF MVP), Lelie...

- CMON DJ MAKE US SHINE!!!


He was hurt worse last year than the team and him let on. No way Green gets that much PT again. This is per Wabbit and my own 2 eyes of course.

[Hulamau]

What if big George Foster continues to struggle this year as he did last year???? What then, are all of our #1's a bust??? We are on the verge of a complete 1st round meltdown here! Damn! Let's just start trading that pick every year and grabbing the #1 pick with all the trade bait to secure more Pryce, Wilson, Elway and Maddox types and forget about this corroded waste with Onail, Middlebust, Nash (ALF MVP), Lelie...

- CMON DJ MAKE US SHINE!!!

It would be great if it was that easy, but all those guys - Pryce, Wislon, Elway and Maddox were first round picks too as I recall.

[Vegas_Bronco]

He was hurt worse last year than the team and him let on. No way Green gets that much PT again. This is per Wabbit and my own 2 eyes of course.

I guess that is my main concern...wasn't he hurt his rookie year also? I want these guys to be franchise players and we can't even keep them for 3-4 years. Just goes to show that no matter how many tests these guys fail or fly, there is no guarantee on draft day.

[SportinOne]

Honestly, we need to let everyone in the league know that if we don't get what we want in a trade that we will just bench him the rest of the season and he'll never be a free agent.

We have ALL the leverage, now let's not screw this up...

How about Ashley and a 2nd for Chris Chambers.. That guy is a monster.

[GCKansas]

More power to Lelie, do what you have to do man. We as Bronco fans root for the Broncos who want to play. Hope someday you reach your goal as a number one receiver somewhere. By the way I hear it gets quite cold up there in Canada. Course you could play indoors at the arena league. Good luck with all you are going to accomplish.

[Vegas_Bronco]

More power to Lelie, do what you have to do man. We as Bronco fans root for the Broncos who want to play. Hope someday you reach your goal as a number one receiver somewhere. By the way I hear it gets quite cold up there in Canada. Course you could play indoors at the arena league. Good luck with all you are going to accomplish.

He sees what Marcus Nash has accomplished and can't believe it! :thumbsup:

[youcandoit1687]

Honestly, we need to let everyone in the league know that if we don't get what we want in a trade that we will just bench him the rest of the season and he'll never be a free agent.

We have ALL the leverage, now let's not screw this up...

How about Ashley and a 2nd for Chris Chambers.. That guy is a monster.

psh id give a late one for chambers. him javon, that would be sick for another 10 years

im gonna wiat a little longer to judge ashley. must....hold....on. cmon ash, come back, u can be a main receiver for years to come if u just wait a little

[CBF1]

Ashlie who?

He would not be the #1 WR on the Colorado Crush, let alone the Denver Broncos.

[SoCalBronco]

Lelie to stay away from Broncos workouts

The Broncos commence a three-day minicamp today at Dove Valley, giving the organization its final on-field tuneup of the offseason. But Ashley Lelie, above, won't be participating, which figures to draw at least some of the focus away from the masses of massives sweating it out for more than two hours today through Saturday.

By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News
July 6, 2006
The Broncos commence a three-day minicamp today at Dove Valley, giving the organization its final on-field tuneup of the offseason.
But one of the players who won't be participating figures to draw at least some of the focus away from the masses of massives sweating it out for more than two hours today through Saturday.

Receiver Ashley Lelie, who has boycotted the team's offseason workouts in an attempt to force a trade, once again will be absent.

The difference this time, unlike the 14 organized team sessions in May and June and conditioning sessions that have been ongoing since April, is these practices are mandatory and the team has the right to dole out fines for not participating.

Lelie can be penalized under current NFL Players' Association guidelines a maximum of $11,641 for missing the three-day session.

If his absence continues into training camp, which begins July 28, a step the receiver previously promised he'll take, the monetary hit escalates to $6,000 a day because he's under contract and his absence unexcused.

The likely monetary penalties in the short term won't dissuade Lelie, who has gone public about his displeasure with his role in the offense, the Broncos' acquisition of receiver Javon Walker and perceptions he has underachieved instead of being miscast in the system.

Lelie was sparse in his comments Wednesday regarding his situation, but he did acknowledge he again will be a no-show.

"Nothing different," he said. "My agent really doesn't want me to speak on the matter. But, yeah, nothing's changed."

Lelie's representative, Peter Schaffer, and the Broncos have been working to try to find a willing partner in a player-for-player swap.

Lelie has led the NFL the past two seasons in yards per catch.

So far, the Broncos have been rebuffed in acquiring a player on their wish list or declined to pull the trigger.

The New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles and Chicago Bears are among the teams the Broncos previously have been engaged in talks. But nothing appears to be imminent.

Schaffer and Broncos general manager Ted Sundquist did not return phone calls.

Lelie, a first-round pick in 2002, had been working out at Athletes' Performance, a training facility in Tempe, Ariz., earlier in the offseason.

But he has moved his base to the center's facility in Carson, Calif., to get more football-intensive training while mixing in weight work in a five-days-a-week regimen.

As part of his routine, Lelie is partnered with Charles Collins, who specializes in working with receivers as a former position coach at Santa Monica (Calif.) College and counts current NFL players Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith among his clients list.

But for Lelie, who maintains he's in top shape, it's admittedly not the same as going through the paces with teammates.

"It's kind of hard sitting back and watching and being out of football," Lelie said. "It gives me a whole different perspective on everything.

"I miss it. And watching things makes me more hungry to be on the field."

Just not with the Broncos, apparently.

Lelie's no-show stand, coupled with Walker's ongoing recovery from a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee, has allowed 2004 second-round pick Darius Watts to re-emerge as a serious contender for playing time next season if he can duplicate his offseason performance during training camp.

Walker will not be a full-time participant this week, which will allow Watts, David Terrell, Charlie Adams and rookie Brandon Marshall to get more repetitions and chances to prove their value.

Besides Walker and Lelie, only defensive tackle Amon Gordon, who's on the mend from microfracture knee surgery that ended his 2005 season, and rookie wideout Domenik Hixon, who underwent an offseason procedure to repair his left foot, could miss time in the next few days.

But Hixon's agent, Vance Larimer, said his client is ready to go after participating in only one full-speed workout during team activities.


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4825201,00.html

[Clockwork Orange]

At least Lelie's new agent has got the message through to him to keep his piehole shut. Lord knows that if he hadn't we'd have all been invited to another of Ashley's pity parties.

Sit, relax, don't show up, whatever. It may come as a shock to you that the team and the NFL will go on with out you, kiddo.

[Hulamau]

Thanks Socal , it will be interesting to see how this works out. He probably is in better shape than ever with the concentrated attention of the trainer and the need to be ready to go at a moments notice.

I figured his agent put the clamps on him talking after stirring up the hornets nest like he did after the draft.

First team with a major WR injury during camp will likely be on the horn with Shanny.

[cutthemdown]

Honestly, we need to let everyone in the league know that if we don't get what we want in a trade that we will just bench him the rest of the season and he'll never be a free agent.

We have ALL the leverage, now let's not screw this up...

How about Ashley and a 2nd for Chris Chambers.. That guy is a monster.
you're as high as a kite in febuary. One Fish love Chambers, Two he has a new deal in MIA, 3rd Saban wouldn't want to lose Chambers. On to Lelie and his FA. All Lelie has to do to get credit for this yr is show up for 6 games and be on the roster for those 6 weeks. So really are only leverage is in levying fines against Lelie, going after signing bonuses etc. I'd like to see a resolution to this asap. Not that Broncos can't go on without Lelie just that I hate hearing about stuff like this every interview with every bronco player. If it drags through training camp it will be all we hear about.

[Odysseus]

Maybe Lelie is betting on Javon Walker being hurt or Rod losing a step.

[fontaine]

This is turning into the biggest joke in the NFL.

I've heard of players holding out for a new contract, because they don't like the organization, some team mate horned in on their spouse, or they just want out but I've never heard of a player holding out because he's NOT GUARANTEED A STARTING SPOT!

In case Lelie didn't catch the memo, almost no one is guaranteed to start. When players like Rod have to check that his name is still on his locker at the start of each day then WTF is Lelie?

He's working out in California now? I'll bet he is. He's probably working on shaving his legs, washing his hair, getting manicures and a bikini wax.

Flush this turd out of Denver please.

[Rausch]

What an idiot!?!?! I'm an idiot too...I wanted either Lelie or Ed Reed that year in the draft and I was happy to get one of them...

Well.....uh......here's a squeeky toy!...

[Northman]

No surprise.


Exactly. Anyone who thought that Ashley was going to show was only kidding themselves.

[elsid13]

Has Lelie every asked for more money or all his demands been about playing time?

[Mile High Shack]

watching game of the week last night again, our Patriots playoff game

Shanny was all over Lelie a few times for not running the right route

big shock there

but it's always Jake's fault

face it Lelie fans, he's a one trick pony

fly route and nothing else.....I'd be happy getting a 3rd round pick out of him

[BroncoBen]

What an idiot!?!?! I'm an idiot too...I wanted either Lelie or Ed Reed that year in the draft and I was happy to get one of them...
Word... I was on the same boat. I remember the Coach (June Jones) talking up Lelie before the draft, that he was the best he had worked with. That he was not a product of the system (run n gun).
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[OrangeShadow]

on a side note quiettigger has the weirdest avy ever.

[Ratboy]

Did somebody say Watts? :P

[-Slap-]

As part of his routine, Lelie is partnered with Charles Collins, who specializes in working with receivers as a former position coach at Santa Monica (Calif.) College and counts current NFL players Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith among his clients list.

Apparently Charles Collins speaks fluent asshole.

[bendog]

Has Lelie every asked for more money or all his demands been about playing time?
Time, but it's really about him wanting to be traded. I'd take an 08 #3 for him. But I'd really like to see what chemistry he works out with Vick.

[BroncoInferno]

Maybe one of our cap experts can answer this, but do we have to allow Lelie to return after week 10? I mean, I know we could probably deactivate him or suspend him, but is there any way to prevent him from getting his credit for this season?

[BroncoBen]

Maybe one of our cap experts can answer this, but do we have to allow Lelie to return after week 10? I mean, I know we could probably deactivate him or suspend him, but is there any way to prevent him from getting his credit for this season?
It has something to do with the Player Union and getting credit for their retirement.

Lelie can sit out for those games, but he will get fined by the Broncos which they can do under the same agreement. He does have to report back to the team (at a prorated salary), but the Broncos can work his $ass off during the week, then make him inactive on gameday.
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[ol number 7]

Maybe one of our cap experts can answer this, but do we have to allow Lelie to return after week 10? I mean, I know we could probably deactivate him or suspend him, but is there any way to prevent him from getting his credit for this season?

Lelie is learning how to get through traffic; drivin through LA. If I can't be Number 1 I'm going home. Did he learn that from his daddy a MARINE. What a disgrace he is to a father that would sacrifice everything for a fellow MARINE.
Now Papa Lelie knows how BOY GEORGES father feels. Ash has a new agent and a makeup artist. He looks like Prince now.:curtsey:

[Spider]

I bet no one is happier then Watts ........

[Traveler]

It has something to do with the Player Union and getting credit for their retirement.

Lelie can sit out for those games, but he will get fined by the Broncos which they can do under the same agreement. He does have to report back to the team (at a prorated salary), but the Broncos can work his $ass off during the week, then make him inactive on gameday.
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Say for instance Lelie does holdout the first 10 games of the season. Because of the new TO Rule, the team can only suspend him a maximum of 4 games.

That would leave him only two games (if they don't de-activate him) credited towards FA in 07. Meaning he would still belong with the Broncos in 07 since he didn't fulfill his commitment of six games.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this please.

[BroncoInferno]

It has something to do with the Player Union and getting credit for their retirement.

Lelie can sit out for those games, but he will get fined by the Broncos which they can do under the same agreement. He does have to report back to the team (at a prorated salary), but the Broncos can work his $ass off during the week, then make him inactive on gameday.
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But there is not any way to prevent him from gaining credit for the '06 season provided he reports by week 10, thereby allowing to hit free agency in the offseason, correct?

[fontaine]

I bet no one is happier then Watts ........


Baja fan, maybe?


:P

[BroncoInferno]

Say for instance Lelie does holdout the first 10 games of the season. Because of the new TO Rule, the team can only suspend him a maximum of 4 games.

That would leave him only two games credited towards FA in 07. Meaning he would still belong with the Broncos in 07 since he didn't fulfill his commitment of six games.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this please.

That's what I'm trying to work out. It was my understanding that as long as he reports by week 10, we cannot keep him from gaining credit for the season even if we deactivate and/or suspend him. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to stick it to the bastard.

[BroncoBen]

But there is not any way to prevent him from gaining credit for the '06 season provided he reports by week 10, thereby allowing to hit free agency in the offseason, correct?
Correct, no matter what he will become a Free Agent in 07'

This was suppose to be his contract year, the year where most players play their butt off to try and get that next big contract.

Next season some team will take a flyer on him, but I bet it will only be a contract for 1 year, enough to prove himself.
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[Gcver2ver3]

I bet no one is happier then Watts ........

I'm thinking David Terrell might be

[AZ!]

Lelie is selfish, and no one has ever won the superbowl alone. It takes a team effort, and everyone here knows that. Denver is better off without him. Talent without sacrifice for your team equals no championship.

[NOLA Bronco]

A few good things come from Lelie not showing up.

1. Money from fines go to charity.
2. The Broncos show that no player is above the team.
3. It gives someone a chance to step up.
4. If Lelie ever does see the field again in Denver, he may have some extra motivation, considering he might by 6th on the depth chart by then.
5. At least he is quitting before the season, and not when we need him most.
6. It rids the Broncos of a weak person who is incapable of accepting a challege and raising his game to prove his worth. #1 receivers earn it moron.

He won't be missed, which he still doesn't realize.

I do wonder, had Walker not been drafted one spot before him, would he have ever been here to begin with?

[Atlas]

Say for instance Lelie does holdout the first 10 games of the season. Because of the new TO Rule, the team can only suspend him a maximum of 4 games.

That would leave him only two games (if they don't de-activate him) credited towards FA in 07. Meaning he would still belong with the Broncos in 07 since he didn't fulfill his commitment of six games.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this please.

Your wrong, The team can't suspend him for 4 games when he comes back.

[azbroncfan]

A few good things come from Lelie not showing up.

1. Money from fines go to charity.
2. The Broncos show that no player is above the team.
3. It gives someone a chance to step up.
4. If Lelie ever does see the field again in Denver, he may have some extra motivation, considering he might by 6th on the depth chart by then.
5. At least he is quitting before the season, and not when we need him most.
6. It rids the Broncos of a weak person who is incapable of accepting a challege and raising his game to prove his worth. #1 receivers earn it moron.

He won't be missed, which he still doesn't realize.

I do wonder, had Walker not been drafted one spot before him, would he have ever been here to begin with???? I believe walker was drafted behind Lelie.

[Atlas]

I'm not going to jump all over Lelie yet. Sometimes these things just get worked out. I expect him in Denver for the begining of the season, his agent would really be letting him down if he wasn't.

[Odysseus]

I'm not going to jump all over Lelie yet. Sometimes these things just get worked out. I expect him in Denver for the begining of the season, his agent would really be letting him down if he wasn't.

You should really jump on Lelie now while there is still room. :giggle:

[Odysseus]

Quote:
As part of his routine, Lelie is partnered with Charles Collins, who specializes in working with receivers as a former position coach at Santa Monica (Calif.) College and counts current NFL players Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith among his clients list.

Apparently Charles Collins speaks fluent asshole.


This explains everything! Ha!

[Derger_Louis]

I'm not going to jump all over Lelie yet. Sometimes these things just get worked out. I expect him in Denver for the begining of the season, his agent would really be letting him down if he wasn't.

I agree with Atlas here, just wait and see what happens - - we will be a much better team with him playing with us this year.

[Mile High Shack]

I'm not going to jump all over Lelie yet. Sometimes these things just get worked out. I expect him in Denver for the begining of the season, his agent would really be letting him down if he wasn't.

I appreciate you holding back
but what has Lelie done that gives you hope he has a future in Denver?

[Atlas]

I appreciate you holding back
but what has Lelie done that gives you hope he has a future in Denver?


He isn't a #1 BUT he has the highest average per catch in the NFL over the last two years. If he comes back for the regular season and has a good year I don't see why Shanny wouldn't offer him a long term deal. It won't be a blockbuster deal but it might be more than what Lelie can get from other teams.

This thing could go 100 different ways but if he comes back and likes what he sees in Cutler than all bets are off on what he'll want.

Afterall some of Lelie's complaints about the offense are justified.

[bendog]

That's what I'm trying to work out. It was my understanding that as long as he reports by week 10, we cannot keep him from gaining credit for the season even if we deactivate and/or suspend him. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to stick it to the bastard.
Running back kicks.

[Hulamau]

He isn't a #1 BUT he has the highest average per catch in the NFL over the last two years. If he comes back for the regular season and has a good year I don't see why Shanny wouldn't offer him a long term deal. It won't be a blockbuster deal but it might be more than what Lelie can get from other teams.

This thing could go 100 different ways but if he comes back and likes what he sees in Cutler than all bets are off on what he'll want.

Afterall some of Lelie's complaints about the offense are justified.


Excellent take as usual Atlas!

[NOLA Bronco]

He isn't a #1 BUT he has the highest average per catch in the NFL over the last two years. If he comes back for the regular season and has a good year I don't see why Shanny wouldn't offer him a long term deal. It won't be a blockbuster deal but it might be more than what Lelie can get from other teams.

This thing could go 100 different ways but if he comes back and likes what he sees in Cutler than all bets are off on what he'll want.

Afterall some of Lelie's complaints about the offense are justified.

Lets not get all caught up in the stats. Does he really make that much of a difference on the field? Has there ever been a game where we could say, damn, he was so much better than anyone else. He sure seems easily replacable.

[NOLA Bronco]

??? I believe walker was drafted behind Lelie.

You are 100% correct. For some reason I thought Lelie was #16 and Walker was #15. I was wrong about the number and order. BTW, guess who went right after Walker - Daniel Graham. Denver could have had him.

Memo to Shanny - no WR's in the first round anymore.

[shakenbake]

Lets not get all caught up in the stats. Does he really make that much of a difference on the field? Has there ever been a game where we could say, damn, he was so much better than anyone else. He sure seems easily replacable.

He had a great game against oakland last year. Actually after that game I thought Lelie was comming into his own. Caught balls across the middle ect. Granted it was against oakland but you could see how the guy could be a #1 reciever in the league. That being said he needs to come in and take it from rod.

[Atlas]

Lets not get all caught up in the stats. Does he really make that much of a difference on the field? Has there ever been a game where we could say, damn, he was so much better than anyone else. He sure seems easily replacable.

Even last year Lelie made a huge difference on the team. He was Denver's only deep threat and he is good at it.

[BroncoInferno]

He isn't a #1 BUT he has the highest average per catch in the NFL over the last two years. If he comes back for the regular season and has a good year I don't see why Shanny wouldn't offer him a long term deal. It won't be a blockbuster deal but it might be more than what Lelie can get from other teams.

Lelie has already said it isn't about money or a long term deal; it's about the fact that Shanny won't hand him the #1 WR spot.

Afterall some of Lelie's complaints about the offense are justified.

No, they aren't. Lelie's shortcomings are due to his own weaknesses, scapegoating aside..

[BroncoInferno]

He had a great game against oakland last year. Actually after that game I thought Lelie was comming into his own. Caught balls across the middle ect. Granted it was against oakland but you could see how the guy could be a #1 reciever in the league.

Catching short passes against a pathetic defensive backfield who are playing off the line of scrimmage does not show that he can be a #1 WR. You've got to demonstrate consistency and do the little things against teams with a legitimate defensive backfield. A game here and there proves nothing, especially against teams with poor DBs.

[NOLA Bronco]

He had a great game against oakland last year. Actually after that game I thought Lelie was comming into his own. Caught balls across the middle ect. Granted it was against oakland but you could see how the guy could be a #1 reciever in the league. That being said he needs to come in and take it from rod.

Sometimes he does make good plays, but is he any better than any other #2 guy out there? Heck, is he even in the top 10 of #2's? Would you take him over Drew Bennett, Lee Evans, Eric Parker, Marty Booker, or Bobby Engram?

I just don't see that he has anything that special that seperates him from the pack. I bet Watts or Terrell could be just as productive.

He is fast, but thats about it.

[watermock]

Play me or trade me isn't unheard of, but recently, virtually 95% (I estimate) are holdouts regarding Bling. It's too bad we couldn't of made a trade for Walker involving Lelie and a #3. We lost the three and our early second right? We danced so much this year it's hard to keep it all strait. I'm sure they tried.

Lelie is so clueless. He can report and STILL be requesting a trade. HIS AGENT HAS ALLREADY BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION TO SEEK A TRADE! If he reports, it will enhance his trade value, no question. The odd thing is that when we drafted him, everyone expected to be a team player and model citizen. What we got was a spoiled primadonna out of the June Jones run and shoot that will never be physical enough to be a #1 reciever. Lelie isn't an agressive player. Yes, he will fight for the ball on deep patterns, but he still is soft off the line and I can just imagine his trying to be a #1 when he's drawing much more attention. The idea of sending him deep to open the field and draw a deep safety made perfect sense, even if it didn't make him happy. Honestly, Lelie has never taken the punishment of a TE or Rod Smith.

I don't wish injury on anyone, but someone will go down and might open up a trade opportunity. I don't know what Walker used on his head to make him act this way, but Lelie says it's not about money. I'm sick of this distraction allready.

You can virtually guarantee that a high profile WR or 3 will be injured in camp, preseason, or even early in the year.

[~Crash~]

you're as high as a kite in febuary. One Fish love Chambers, Two he has a new deal in MIA, 3rd Saban wouldn't want to lose Chambers. On to Lelie and his FA. All Lelie has to do to get credit for this yr is show up for 6 games and be on the roster for those 6 weeks. So really are only leverage is in levying fines against Lelie, going after signing bonuses etc. I'd like to see a resolution to this asap. Not that Broncos can't go on without Lelie just that I hate hearing about stuff like this every interview with every bronco player. If it drags through training camp it will be all we hear about.

He also has to be on the active roster I would bet . if so we should deactvate his ass...

[BroncoInferno]

He also has to be on the active roster I would bet . if so we should deactvate his ass...

I don't think that's the case. Third string QBs are very often deactivated for all 16 games and still earn the credit on their contract.

[NOLA Bronco]

As part of his routine, Lelie is partnered with Charles Collins, who specializes in working with receivers as a former position coach at Santa Monica (Calif.) College and counts current NFL players Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson and Steve Smith among his clients list.
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Owens
Johnson
Johnson
Smith
Lelie

One of these things is not like the others, which one could it be??

[Northman]

watching game of the week last night again, our Patriots playoff game

Shanny was all over Lelie a few times for not running the right route

big shock there

but it's always Jake's fault

face it Lelie fans, he's a one trick pony

fly route and nothing else.....I'd be happy getting a 3rd round pick out of him


Although i dont think Ashley is as good as some people may say there is a video that was put on here not too long ago by somone. Some sort of Broncos highlight and it did show Ashley making some very tough catches that Jake threw. It is common knowledge that Jake doesnt have the greatest accuracy but is Lelie worth the haggle that he is putting up? nope.

[loborugger]

I am not convinced we would have done so well with Ed Reed contracturally or performance wise. I still look on that a missed opportunity but my resentment isn't over what we missed in Ed Reed but in what Lelie himself refuses to bring to the table.

Amen.

[Odysseus]

Owens
Johnson
Johnson
Smith
Lelie

One of these things is not like the others, which one could it be??

Smith. He's actually that good.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I considered posting this in a thread with a poll but decided against it.

Who do you guys hate more? Eddie Kennison or Ashley Lelie?

[Northman]

Good question. After hearing about Eddie's issue i had a change of heart. I still dont like the way he handled it here in Denver but i can now understand why he did what he did. But, i dont really hold a grudge on Lelie either cause the fact is he isnt a high caliber player. Kennison isnt really that special either but in K.C he is putting up good numbers and he does tend to stick it too us when he can.

[NOLA Bronco]

I considered posting this in a thread with a poll but decided against it.

Who do you guys hate more? Eddie Kennison or Ashley Lelie?

Kennison quit during the season after Eddie Mac broke his leg. Ashley quit before the season after we brought in some other comp. I hate Kennison more, easily.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Lelie the headline story on NFL Live (on now). Shanahan says he's making a huge mistake.


Humdinger pressing Plummer and Cutler to hit the outs at the very last second.
Practicing more 3 wide sets.
Walker still rehabbing, not on the field for team drills.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Broncos | Shanahan mentions a fine for Lelie
Thu, 6 Jul 2006 16:51:29 -0700

Andrew Mason, of DenverBroncos.com, reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan mentioned a fine for WR Ashley Lelie after he skipped the team's mandatory minicamp Thursday, July 6. "Anybody that's not here would get fined," Shanahan said. "It's a mandatory camp. It's not a major fine. It would cost him a few dollars." His absence has cost him is something more: repetitions and work that could give him a shot at being the No. 1 receiver, at least in Denver. While Shanahan wouldn't dismiss the idea that Lelie could still assume that role, "He'd still have an opportunity here if he decided to come back," the head coach noted, he questioned Lelie's protocol in pursuing that goal. Shanahan later added: "It would be different if people were beating down the walls to get him, but they're not. Why not come in here and try to do what you can do and make a name for yourself at a place that drafted you No. 1? I just think he's making a bad decision. He got some bad advice."

Broncos | R. Smith offers some advice to Lelie
Thu, 6 Jul 2006 16:52:36 -0700

Andrew Mason, of DenverBroncos.com, reports Denver Broncos WR Rod Smith offered some advice to WR Ashley Lelie after Lelie did not attend the team's mandatory minicamp Thursday, July 6. "The advice I'm going to give is that I'm going to kick his a-- because he hasn't called me back," Smith said. "That's the advice I'm going to give; so when I see him, I'm going to smack him. He's in town; I called him and we were supposed to have lunch, and it wasn't about football. I just wanted to see how he was doing, and for some reason, we didn't connect. I really wanted to just talk to him and see how he's doing, not from a football standpoint, but (because) I care about him as a person."

http://tinyurl.com/5vfwo

[kamakazi_kal]

I considered posting this in a thread with a poll but decided against it.

Who do you guys hate more? Eddie Kennison or Ashley Lelie?

eddie......ash still wears orange and blue and this isnt the night before a chargers game when we are trying to make a playoff push

[Hulamau]

I considered posting this in a thread with a poll but decided against it.

Who do you guys hate more? Eddie Kennison or Ashley Lelie?


Wait until Lelie winds up with the Chiefs then run the poll again! He'll be Darth Vader by then

[BroncoInferno]

Shanahan later added: "It would be different if people were beating down the walls to get him, but they're not."

LOL Ouch.