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BroncoBuff
07-04-2006, 09:33 AM
Sealing off perhaps the greatest failure of any war president in American history, the CIA - leaders in on-the-ground intel re bin Laden - have closed their OBL unit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_re_us/cia_bin_laden

So it's now clear that all his silly bluster at ground zero: "the people who knocked down these buildings are gonna hear from all of us soon!" and "Wanted - Dead or Alive" ... are officially bull****.

I think we should be opening MORE OBL units - not closing them. The president has a duty to the American people - an "oath of office" type duty: FIND HIM AND BRING HIM TO JUSTICE! He led the worst attack on US soil ever ... and they gave him a pass by diverting to Iraq.

If we had put even half the Iraqi force and support into Tora Bora when we knew where he was, we'd have his head on pike long ago ... this is really bad. I feel sick about this, and I'm a pacifist. I can't imagine what the 9/11 survivors are feeling ... especially seeing that OBL has been releasing new tapes so frequently.

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BroncoBuff
07-04-2006, 09:35 AM
CIA reportedly disbands bin Laden unit

NEW YORK - The CIA unit that had hunted for Osama bin Laden and his top deputies for a decade has been disbanded, according to a published report.


Citing unnamed intelligence officials, The New York Times reported Tuesday that the unit, known as "Alec Station," was shut down late last year. The decision to close the unit, which predated the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, was first reported Monday by National Public Radio.

The officials told the Times that the change reflects a view that al-Qaida's hierarchy has changed, and terrorist attacks inspired by the group are now being carried out independently of bin Laden and his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The CIA said hunting bin Laden remains a priority, but resources needed to be directed toward other people and groups likely to initiate new attacks.

"The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise Dyck. "This is an agile agency, and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus."

A former CIA official who once led the unit, Michael Scheuer, told the Times that its shutdown was a mistake.

"This will clearly denigrate our operations against al-Qaida," he said. "These days at the agency, bin Laden and al-Qaida appear to be treated merely as first among equals."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_re_us/cia_bin_laden

Spider
07-04-2006, 09:39 AM
I have said all along , Reps didnt want OBL caught .......thier intrest was not Justice for 9-11 , sure alot of them were moved on that day , but after awhile they lost focus , just didnt care anymore , Iraq was the #1 priority ....... Now the only time we hear about OBL is near election time .......
And all those that voted for Bush , Didnt care about Justice , they believed everything Bush said , no questions asked ...... meanwhile a Republicans bestfriend is still walking around free , making Videos , reveling in the fact that he killed 3000 + Americans .....

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 11:43 AM
Wow...that's very dissapointing. I thought this thread was going to be about how Bin Laden's buddies were jumping ship after what happened to his pal in Iraq.

Billy Clyde Puckett
07-04-2006, 11:45 AM
But, if CIA couldn't find him in ten years, why would we think they would ever find him? Of course closing this unit means they have shut down the bureaucracy. Maybe they will put that money to use in the field where it will do some good.

I am certainly not defending Bush, but the US has f'd up every thing we have tried to do in the Middle East. From WWI, Yalta, the "Camp David accord", Bush I, Clinton stopping all aid to Pakistan just as the CIA was closing in on the terrorist groups and now Bush II.

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 11:54 AM
I have said all along , Reps didnt want OBL caught .......thier intrest was not Justice for 9-11 , sure alot of them were moved on that day , but after awhile they lost focus , just didnt care anymore , Iraq was the #1 priority .......
That's not a productive or constructive comment and it's not only nonsense, it's incredibly insulting to suggest that because of political party affiliation people didn't want to see this maniac caught. EVERYONE who witnessed what happened on 911 wanted justice and wanted Bin Laden caught. I'll agree that the GOP faithful have been suckered by Bush, but it's not because they didn't want Bin Laden caught. They simply bought into the idea that Iraq was the most important objective because Bush is a great con-artist. In many ways GOP voters have been the biggest victims of Bush's lies, because DEMS didn't believe him from the start, but the GOP faithful who voted for him basically had him just spit in their faces.
Now the only time we hear about OBL is near election time .......
And all those that voted for Bush , Didnt care about Justice , they believed everything Bush said , no questions asked ...... meanwhile a Republicans bestfriend is still walking around free , making Videos , reveling in the fact that he killed 3000 + Americans .....
I think a lot of people who voted for Bush did so because they thought he was a conservative, which he's not...he's merely a poltiical opportunist who saw an opportunity to exploit certain political realities and seized upon it to his advantage. To suggest half the nation's population is a "friend of Bin Laden's" after he murdered our people is outrageous. There are people dying in Iraq who voted for Bush, and some still believe in his leadership. Does that make them a "friend of Bin Laden"?

You're over the top on this one. Bush's lies have hurt everyone, Republican and Democrat. Some people still don't understand what Bush has done, but that doesn't make them Bin Laden's buddies.

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 11:56 AM
But, if CIA couldn't find him in ten years, why would we think they would ever find him? Of course closing this unit means they have shut down the bureaucracy. Maybe they will put that money to use in the field where it will do some good.

I am certainly not defending Bush, but the US has f'd up every thing we have tried to do in the Middle East. From WWI, Yalta, the "Camp David accord", Bush I, Clinton stopping all aid to Pakistan just as the CIA was closing in on the terrorist groups and now Bush II.
I'm hoping we're making a public representation that we're abandoning the search, hoping he'll relax, while continuing to look for the SOB through some kind of covert actions.

Spider
07-04-2006, 11:59 AM
That's not a productive or constructive comment and it's not only nonsense, it's incredibly insulting to suggest that because of political party affiliation people didn't want to see this maniac caught. EVERYONE who witnessed what happened on 911 wanted justice and wanted Bin Laden caught. I'll agree that the GOP faithful have been suckered by Bush, but it's not because they didn't want Bin Laden caught. They simplybought into the idea that Iraq was the most important objective because Bush is a great con-artist. In many ways GOP voters have been the biggest victims of Bush's lies, because DEMS didn't believe him from the start, but the GOP faithful who voted for him basically had him just spit in their faces. 2004 elections say different , everyonethat voted for Bush wanted iraq more then OBL ...... Spin it how you want , but thats the bottom line ........

I think a lot of people who voted for Bush did so because they thought he was a conservative, which he's not...he's merely a poltiical opportunist who saw an opportunity to exploit certain political realities and seized upon it to his advantage. To suggest half the nation's population is a "friend of Bin Laden's" after he murdered our people is outrageous. There are people dying in Iraq who voted for Bush, and some still believe in his leadership. Does that make them a "friend of Bin Laden"?
where did I say Friend of Bin Ladin ? somthing wrong with your reading there bub ?

You're over the top on this one. now tell me why I give a damn what you think ?

Bush's lies have hurt everyone, Republican and Democrat. Some people still don't understand what Bush has done, but that doesn't make them Bin Laden's buddies.
Bin Ladins Buddies ? again show me where I said that ?
Now I know I will get a long winded bullshítting answer from you , just giving you a heads up .I probably wont read it .......

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 12:14 PM
2004 elections say different , everyonethat voted for Bush wanted iraq more then OBL ...... Spin it how you want , but thats the bottom line ........
Most people who voted for Bush did so for all kinds of reasons other than Bin Laden. Are you saying you've seen polls that report this? Or are you just leaping to this conclusion? It's logical to believe that most who voted for Bush in 2004 probably still thought we would catch him. I hardly think because somebody voted for Bush based on abortion issues, economic policies, etc...it can be said they didn't care about catching Bin Laden.
where did I say Friend of Bin Ladin ? somthing wrong with your reading there bub ?
Right here:
meanwhile a Republicans bestfriend is still walking around free , making Videos , reveling in the fact that he killed 3000 + Americans .....
now tell me why I give a damn what you think ?
Because you're an inclusive progressive who believes we should all come together in the spirit of sharing ideas in order to make the country better regardless of political ideology? ;D
Bin Ladins Buddies ? again show me where I said that ?
Now I know I will get a long winded bullshítting answer from you , just giving you a heads up .I probably wont read it .......
I don't have control over that.
meanwhile a Republicans bestfriend is still walking around free , making Videos , reveling in the fact that he killed 3000 + Americans .....

Short enough?

Spider
07-04-2006, 12:16 PM
Most people who voted for Bush did so for all kinds of reasons other than Bin Laden. Are you saying you've seen polls that report this? Or are you just leaping to this conclusion? It's logical to believe that most who voted for Bush in 2004 probably still thought we would catch him. I hardly think because somebody voted for Bush based on abortion issues, economic policies, etc...it can be said they didn't care about catching Bin Laden.

Right here:


Because you're an inclusive progressive who believes we should all come together in the spirit of sharing ideas in order to make the country better regardless of political ideology? ;D



Short enough?
yep;D ...... I realized I forgot to add the Elected republicans bestfriend , when i realized i was opps ;D . I was hoping you wouldnt catch it .......

Spider
07-04-2006, 12:19 PM
Most people who voted for Bush did so for all kinds of reasons other than Bin Laden. Are you saying you've seen polls that report this? Or are you just leaping to this conclusion? It's logical to believe that most who voted for Bush in 2004 probably still thought we would catch him. I hardly think because somebody voted for Bush based on abortion issues, economic policies, etc...it can be said they didn't care about catching Bin Laden. Seriously i dont think they did , Bush came right out and Said ,we dont know where he is , we dont care ( ad libbing , but it was to that effect)
that right there set a mindset , and as I claimed , the people that followed Bush followed him without question ........ you would have an Argument if Bush didnt utter thatShít into a camera .....

Spider
07-04-2006, 12:27 PM
as for being over the top ? Somebody has to , letting Bin Ladin walk free is a horrid injustice , unexcusable , I would be alot more forgiving , if we had stayed in Afghanistan and kept the heat on instead of Splitting up and invading Iraq ......
I hope people learned , that just cause me and a few others question Bush didnt mean we loved the terrorist , or we took thier side , or forgot about 9-11 , that we needed to move to france ,etc. but we wanted Bin Ladins head on a platter ......... IT IS OK TO QUESTION AUTHORITY ................people have to be held accountable for thier votes ...

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 12:35 PM
yep;D ...... I realized I forgot to add the Elected republicans bestfriend , when i realized i was opps ;D . I was hoping you wouldnt catch it .......
I hate it when that happens...:giggle:

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 12:36 PM
Seriously i dont think they did , Bush came right out and Said ,we dont know where he is , we dont care ( ad libbing , but it was to that effect)
that right there set a mindset , and as I claimed , the people that followed Bush followed him without question ........ you would have an Argument if Bush didnt utter thatShít into a camera .....
Well I know my sainted mother voted for him on the abortion issue...so that's one...;D

Spider
07-04-2006, 12:38 PM
Well I know my sainted mother voted for him on the abortion issue...so that's one...;D
;D Saintd mothers are excluded .......

Crushaholic
07-04-2006, 12:43 PM
In many ways GOP voters have been the biggest victims of Bush's lies, because DEMS didn't believe him from the start

Really? Democrats only abandoned Bush when it became clear that we didn't find any WMD's and it became politically beneficial to criticize him...


http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml

footstepsfrom#27
07-04-2006, 12:49 PM
Really? Democrats only abandoned Bush when it became clear that we didn't find any WMD's and it became politically beneficial to criticize him...


http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml
I was speaking of the rank and file rather than the politicians...and broadly rather than specifically related to the war. But you're right that a lof of DEM politicos jumped off the bandwagon as soon as the political winds shifted.

Rigs11
07-04-2006, 01:45 PM
In Dubya's words:Mission Accomplished.

BroncoBuff
07-04-2006, 02:28 PM
In Dubya's words:Mission Accomplished.
LOL ^5 :~ohyah!:

ludo21
07-04-2006, 04:28 PM
Well, it seems we disbanded................. I mean, would we really just leave???

......wait for it......... Its DUBYA, ya fool!!

I know, I know... but I thinks this is all smoke and mirrors, make him feel comfortable. I think we are still in deep.

SteveTensi13
07-04-2006, 09:30 PM
Typical liberal response. As if the war on terrorism depended on taking out one man. Would I like to see him dead? You betcha, but I also realize he has been relegated to being a cheer leader and nothing more. UBL is now a figure head. Lets catch bigger fish!

Spider
07-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Typical liberal response. As if the war on terrorism depended on taking out one man. Would I like to see him dead? You betcha, but I also realize he has been relegated to being a cheer leader and nothing more. UBL is now a figure head. Lets catch bigger fish!
So as a cop your Advice is let someone go that commited a horrid cowradly crime in order to get someone else ..........Gee you should make detective in no time

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-05-2006, 03:01 AM
Typical liberal response. As if the war on terrorism depended on taking out one man.

Typical bush knob slobber response.

The man who planned and organized the worst attack on U.S. soil in history is "just one man," i.e., a foot soldier or cannon fodder in the larger scheme of things.

Bin Laden is "just one man" (except, of course, when SteveTensi13 is taking Clinton to task for not catching him.)

You'll say just about anything and spin until you're dizzy to cover the court-appointed pinhead's flank, won't you?

....but I also realize he has been relegated to being a cheer leader and nothing more.

And who did you get the confirmation on this from?

Miss Cleo?

Rigs11
07-05-2006, 07:25 AM
Typical liberal response. As if the war on terrorism depended on taking out one man. Would I like to see him dead? You betcha, but I also realize he has been relegated to being a cheer leader and nothing more. UBL is now a figure head. Lets catch bigger fish!
what a crock. You prolly got a boner when they killed Zarqawi. You change your stance more than Dubya breaks the law.

Spider
07-05-2006, 07:51 AM
Typical bush knob slobber response.

The man who planned and organized the worst attack on U.S. soil in history is "just one man," i.e., a foot soldier or cannon fodder in the larger scheme of things.

Bin Laden is "just one man" (except, of course, when SteveTensi13 is taking Clinton to task for not catching him.)

You'll say just about anything and spin until you're dizzy to cover the court-appointed pinhead's flank, won't you?



And who did you get the confirmation on this from?

Miss Cleo?

LOL Ican see Steve now , Car54 , Car54 there is a drunk Driver on main ...Steve, i will go arrest the kid at burger king .......

SteveTensi13
07-05-2006, 10:55 AM
So as a cop your Advice is let someone go that commited a horrid cowradly crime in order to get someone else ..........Gee you should make detective in no time

See, this is what is wrong with you liberals. You look at the war on terrorism as a law enforcement matter. Would you prefer we go the clinton way, obtain arrest warrants, UN consensus, world court trials? And you wonder why Americans don't trust dems on national security issues.

Spider
07-05-2006, 10:59 AM
See, this is what is wrong with you liberals. You look at the war on terrorism as a law enforcement matter. Would you prefer we go the clinton way, obtain arrest warrants, UN consensus, world court trials? And you wonder why Americans don't trust dems on national security issues.
the way Clinton did it , the 1993 bombers are rotting in Jail .......it is a wonder you are not a detective ......... Perhaps a good thing for your community though ....this maybe hard for you but google the 1993 WTC bombers , see where they are mmmk , thengoogle OBL , and see what he is doing ? ...... i give you a hint , him and paris are now finalist in home move productions ......

Atlas
07-05-2006, 11:14 AM
Sealing off perhaps the greatest failure of any war president in American history, the CIA - leaders in on-the-ground intel re bin Laden - have closed their OBL unit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_re_us/cia_bin_laden

So it's now clear that all his silly bluster at ground zero: "the people who knocked down these buildings are gonna hear from all of us soon!" and "Wanted - Dead or Alive" ... are officially bull****.

I think we should be opening MORE OBL units - not closing them. The president has a duty to the American people - an "oath of office" type duty: FIND HIM AND BRING HIM TO JUSTICE! He led the worst attack on US soil ever ... and they gave him a pass by diverting to Iraq.

If we had put even half the Iraqi force and support into Tora Bora when we knew where he was, we'd have his head on pike long ago ... this is really bad. I feel sick about this, and I'm a pacifist. I can't imagine what the 9/11 survivors are feeling ... especially seeing that OBL has been releasing new tapes so frequently.

.

He is laughing at us.

Atlas
07-05-2006, 11:18 AM
2004 elections say different , everyonethat voted for Bush wanted iraq more then OBL ...... Spin it how you want , but thats the bottom line ........

..

Due to republican lies and Americans ignorance over 1/2 the people in the U.S. thought Iraq was behind 911.

Spider
07-05-2006, 11:22 AM
Due to republican lies and Americans ignorance over 1/2 the people in the U.S. thought Iraq was behind 911.
I got it ,lets ask inspector Clouseau ... what say you stevetensi13?

BroncoBuff
07-05-2006, 04:33 PM
I got it ,lets ask inspector Clouseau ... what say you stevetensi13?
^5

Ba-ZING!

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-05-2006, 04:48 PM
Due to republican lies and Americans ignorance over 1/2 the people in the U.S. thought Iraq was behind 911.

"Thought?"

As in past tense?

I'd wager that there are still plenty of nutty buddies like SteveTensi13 who still believe this.

elsid13
07-05-2006, 05:06 PM
See, this is what is wrong with you liberals. You look at the war on terrorism as a law enforcement matter. Would you prefer we go the clinton way, obtain arrest warrants, UN consensus, world court trials? And you wonder why Americans don't trust dems on national security issues.

See that were you don't get it. One of the core reason that industrial world works is because we have defined structures and protocol - laws- that allow all individuals to operate in defined safe environment. What the terrorist are trying to do is force us to alter our rules and make us play by thier rules - where might makes right. If we do that inside the core industrial world we let them win. So we need to play by two rules - when going after terrorist operating inside the Western/Industrial World we need to follow the laws we have in place. When going after them in areas of the world that don't a stable legal system then we need to alter the techniques to get them. But we also need to finds ways to bring those "lawless" country into the into main stream of Western culture by some from of nation building/economic aid/etc. That way, we get the bad guys and help shrink the environment that lets them develop in the first place.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-06-2006, 01:01 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/bullhorn-liar.jpg
"I take this sacred vow that we will never stop looking for him."







(...but now that the voters can't punish me, I don't know or care what happens to him.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-06-2006, 01:14 AM
Bush's phony bullhorn moment

http://www.bartcop.com/bullhorn-liar.jpg

Another less-publicized aspect of the ad flap: the use of paid actors—including two playing firefighters with fire hats and uniforms in what looks like a fire station. "Where the hell did they get those guys?" cracked Harold Schaitberger, president of the Fire Fighters unions, that endorsed Kerry

"There's many reasons not to use real firemen," retorted one Bush media adviser.

"Mainly, its cheaper and quicker."

http://www.debatebothsides.com/archive/index.php/t-432.html



http://www.bartcop.com/essence-of-liar.jpg

"So Bush gave up on hunting Osama a year ago and never told us. Real nice. And spare us the "they're still hunting for him" bs. They're not hunting for him if they disbanded the special unit that's been hunting for him for ten years. And by the way, that means it was Bill Clinton who decided way before 9-11 that we needed to get bin Laden, and it was Bush who gave up the fight."

- John Aravosis

http://americablog.blogspot.com/

Rohirrim
07-06-2006, 06:10 AM
Interesting note I read this AM. Zarqawi's widow claimed, in an Italian newspaper, that upper echelon Al Queda figures made a deal with the U.S. that they would give up the location of Zarqawi if the U.S. would stop pursuing OBL. Of course, who could believe her? Isn't it odd, though, that Zarqawi gets whacked and a week or so later, Bush disbands the OBL unit?

Bush couldn't possibly be so politically greedy that he would trade OBL for a few points in a poll, would he? Nobody could possibly be that low, right? Although it should be remembered, Nixon continued the Vietnam War for a few months so it wouldn't interfere with his election, and Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld are all products of Tricky Dick.

NOLA Bronco
07-06-2006, 07:52 AM
Typical liberal response. As if the war on terrorism depended on taking out one man. Would I like to see him dead? You betcha, but I also realize he has been relegated to being a cheer leader and nothing more. UBL is now a figure head. Lets catch bigger fish!


How do you or anyone know he is just a cheerleader?

Bigger Fish? Like who? The man is responsible for killing over 3000 people.

NOLA Bronco
07-06-2006, 07:57 AM
"Thought?"

As in past tense?

I'd wager that there are still plenty of nutty buddies like SteveTensi13 who still believe this.


There are some, like my Grandma-in-law who regrets her vote. She lives in West Palm Beach of all places, but thought W was the better choice since it would be bad to replace him with someone else for national security reasons. She was scared of pulling him out because of all the hard work he had done. She tells me that she feels guilty for voting for him. She siad she believed him when he told her about Iraq and the war on "terra."

I wonder what the election would look like today......

alkemical
07-06-2006, 08:51 AM
Check out OBL's listing on FBI.gov - he's not wanted for 9/11

BroncoBuff
07-06-2006, 06:01 PM
http://www.bartcop.com/bullhorn-liar.jpg
"I take this sacred vow that we will never stop looking for him."

"I take this sacred vow that we will never stop looking for him."

Did he really say this?

elsid13
07-06-2006, 07:14 PM
This move doesn't mean we're not hunting the SOB, but rather re-organized our limited resources (analysts) to more effective organization go after the entire network. And yes it takes time to train an analyst and make them effective in this kind of work, it not like you can a train intel analyst off the street or at your local Walmart.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-07-2006, 12:06 AM
This move doesn't mean we're not hunting the SOB, but rather re-organized our limited resources (analysts) to more effective organization go after the entire network

:oyvey:

Um, I hate to burst your WH apologist bubble, but this does mean we've stopped hunting him.

See headline/story again:

CIA reportedly disbands bin Laden unit

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_re_us/cia_bin_laden

Are we to assume from your comments that you have some verifiable proof that some U.S. intelligence (or other) agency or other is still hunting him?

I'm sure everyone would love to see it.

"All of the analysts who’ve been reassigned from the Osama hunt should join all of the analysts who’ve been reassigned from the hunt for Iraq’s WMDs – and together maybe they could finally solve the mystery of Santa Claus."

http://www.americanfamilyvoices.org/amfeed/

http://www.bartcop.com/tr-pisses-me-off.gif

elsid13
07-07-2006, 03:11 AM
Do you read what you posted? that bastard is still being hunted, but it more then just one man that a threat. You would be pissed if all of sudden some other preventable attack occurred on American Soil and CIA analysts missed it, because they were all focused on that ####. We need to tear hunt down and isolate the entire network. OSB goes away the threat doesn't unless we destroy the network.

Yahoo link

"The CIA said hunting bin Laden remains a priority, but resources needed to be directed toward other people and groups likely to initiate new attacks.

"The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise Dyck. "This is an agile agency, and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus.""

NOLA Bronco
07-07-2006, 07:32 AM
Do you read what you posted? that bastard is still being hunted, but it more then just one man that a threat. You would be pissed if all of sudden some other preventable attack occurred on American Soil and CIA analysts missed it, because they were all focused on that ####. We need to tear hunt down and isolate the entire network. OSB goes away the threat doesn't unless we destroy the network.

Yahoo link

"The CIA said hunting bin Laden remains a priority, but resources needed to be directed toward other people and groups likely to initiate new attacks.

"The efforts to find Osama bin Laden are as strong as ever," said CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise Dyck. "This is an agile agency, and the decision was made to ensure greater reach and focus.""

Is this our new CIA spokesperson:

http://dunamai.com/Humor/BagdadBob/images/bagdad_bob_large.gif

"Of course we are still looking for Osama. Don't be silly..."


Fact is, he is one man, but one man who is responsible for the death of over 3000 people. He should be hunted like a dog. I don't care if he has no power or is no threat. He is a killer that should be the number one priority.

alkemical
07-07-2006, 07:45 AM
Check out OBL's listing on FBI.gov - he's not wanted for 9/11


http://www.fbi.gov

TheDave
07-07-2006, 09:54 AM
Did anybody catch olberman the other night... Some lady involved with counter terrorism said that this unit has been disbanded for almost 18 months now... Not sure if that is true or not, as i have not been able to find a link supporting it. Did anyone else hear or see this?

Bronco_Beerslug
07-07-2006, 02:21 PM
Dead or alive, more or less

Sometimes, it's hard to keep up.

Sept. 17, 2001: George W. Bush is asked if he wants Osama bin Laden dead. "I want justice," he says. "There's an old poster out west, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"

March 13, 2002: At a press conference, Bush says that he doesn't know if bin Laden is dead or alive. "You know, I just don't spend that much time on him. . . . And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."

Oct. 13, 2004: "Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations."

Jan. 31, 2006: "Terrorists like bin Laden are serious about mass murder -- and all of us must take their declared intentions seriously."

May 25, 2006: "I learned some lessons about expressing myself maybe in a little more sophisticated manner -- you know, 'Wanted dead or alive,' that kind of talk. I think in certain parts of the world it was misinterpreted, and so I learned from that."

July 4, 2006: The New York Times reports that the CIA last year disbanded a secret unit assigned to track down bin Laden and his top lieutenants in an effort to focus on "regional trends rather than on specific organizations or individuals."

July 7, 2006: At a press conference in Chicago, Bush calls the Times report "just an incorrect story." "I mean, we got a -- we're -- we got a lot of assets looking for Osama bin Laden. So whatever you want to read in that story, it's just not true, period." Asked if he's still on the hunt for bin Laden, the president says: "Absolutely. No ands, ifs or buts. And in my judgment, it's just a matter of time, unless we stop looking. And we're not going to stop looking so long as I'm the president." Bush said he had announced regret over the "dead or alive" comment only because "my wife got on me for talking that way."

-- Tim Grieve
http://tinyurl.com/hbz65

Did anybody catch olberman the other night... Some lady involved with counter terrorism said that this unit has been disbanded for almost 18 months now... Not sure if that is true or not, as i have not been able to find a link supporting it. Did anyone else hear or see this?

Probably so since it was disbanded last year sometime according to the article.