Favorite Drivers

[Arkansas Bronco]

I just want to know who are the driver some of you cheer for. Since I just picked this up last year I didnt want to jump on board with the vets that already had alot of fans so I picked out Edwards, Kahne, and Newman to follow. Well I still like Kahne and Edwards but Newmans Bi*chin has pissed me off so now I dont care how he ends up. I also like that rookie Hamlin, anyone that can go from 1 to 40 and back to 1 you have to like.

[Saddletramp]

I just want to know who are the driver some of you cheer for. Since I just picked this up last year I didnt want to jump on board with the vets that already had alot of fans so I picked out Edwards, Kahne, and Newman to follow. Well I still like Kahne and Edwards but Newmans Bi*chin has pissed me off so now I dont care how he ends up. I also like that rookie Hamlin, anyone that can go from 1 to 40 and back to 1 you have to like.
Dale Jr. is my favorite.

Like others but always want Jr to win. Truex, Hamlin, Sadler, Jarrett, Edwards,
K. Wallace, Jeff Burton, Schrader, M. Waltrip.


Hate:

Tony Stewart
Jeff Gordon
Robby Gordon
Jimmie Johnson
Kurt Busch
Kyle Busch

[Rocket 7]

Al Unser Jr

[Rocket 7]

Nascar?? The first post didn't specifically say NASCAR only. Little Al is my favorite driver.

[Mtbrncofn]

Jeff Gordon, my one and only. Always has been. ;D

I absolutely hate:
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick
Robby Gordon
Dale Jr.

[Saddletramp]

The first post didn't specifically say NASCAR only. Little Al is my favorite driver.
i realized that. sorry

[Mtbrncofn]

Fine, I'm adding my favorite drag racer too....Brandon Bernstein. Go to hell team Schumacher. :militia:

And while I'm at it, I'll throw Paul Tracy into the mix for Champ Car too ( formerly known as CART. )

[Mtbrncofn]

I just want to know who are the driver some of you cheer for. Since I just picked this up last year I didnt want to jump on board with the vets that already had alot of fans so I picked out Edwards, Kahne, and Newman to follow. Well I still like Kahne and Edwards but Newmans Bi*chin has pissed me off so now I dont care how he ends up. I also like that rookie Hamlin, anyone that can go from 1 to 40 and back to 1 you have to like.

Newman has always been a whiner. That's where he gets the nickname 'Cryin Ryan' from. Of course, I have a different one for him. I call him 'No Neck Newman'.

[Saddletramp]

Dale Jr., my one and only. Always has been. ;D

I absolutely hate:
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick
Robby Gordon
Jeff Gordon.
I agree.

[Mtbrncofn]

Has Pez been giving you lessons on editing posts? ;) Never liked his dad, and don't like him either.

[Saddletramp]

Has Pez been giving you lessons on editing posts? ;) Never liked his dad, and don't like him either.

:rofl: Hilarious!

sorry I couldnt resist.






I wasnt or am not a Sr. fan either. But I do like Jr.

[Mtbrncofn]

You know....I never really disliked Jr. until I meet a lot of his fans, and they are generally total dicks. Notice I said generally. And I find it really surprising that you didn't like his daddy. Most of his fans were his dad's. He inherited his huge fan base, pretty much.

[Saddletramp]

You know....I never really disliked Jr. until I meet a lot of his fans, and they are generally total dicks. Notice I said generally. And I find it really surprising that you didn't like his daddy. Most of his fans were his dad's. He inherited his huge fan base, pretty much.
In all honesty I wasn't really a fan of Nascar except for the last couple years Sr. raced and I started out as a Jr. fan.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Dale Jr. is my favorite.

Like others but always want Jr to win. Truex, Hamlin, Sadler, Jarrett, Edwards,
K. Wallace, Jeff Burton, Schrader, M. Waltrip.


Hate:

Tony Stewart
Jeff Gordon
Robby Gordon
Jimmie Johnson
Kurt Busch
Kyle Busch

This dislike list is the exacat same as mine. Earnhardt is on nuetral ground dont realy care if he wins or comes in last.

Since posting other drivers as well I use to like michael andretti but since he is retired (yes he is racing now but I still consider him retired) I will pull an Earnhardt and switch to his son.

[LordHelmchen]

Michael Schumacher
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Mika Hakkinen

*hide*

[BroncoBuff]

Awesome Bill from Dawsonville!

[Mtbrncofn]

You realize Awesome Bill doesn't race anymore, right, Buff? Well I think he races in maybe 5 a year these years.

[Saddletramp]

anybody notice Dale Jr. was fastest in practice yesterday.


and a road course no less. woo woo

[Saddletramp]

Caution out and lap one is not even completed.


zowie!

[Saddletramp]

You know....I never really disliked Jr. until I meet a lot of his fans, and they are generally total dicks. Notice I said generally. And I find it really surprising that you didn't like his daddy. Most of his fans were his dad's. He inherited his huge fan base, pretty much.
Before you say anything Jr. always sucks at road courses.:yayaya:

[Mtbrncofn]

Ha. Take that all you Gordon haters. King of the road ( courses )! !Booya!

Guess Jr. doesn't have his daddy's talent at road courses, eh Saddletramp.

[chiefshunny]

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[BroncoBuff]

You realize Awesome Bill doesn't race anymore, right, Buff? Well I think he races in maybe 5 a year these years.
Okay, okay .... then how about Lake Speed!

His interview after he won at Darlington is one of the all-time classics ... he was crying, mumblin, laughing, screamin. HE'S my favorite driver then.

[Saddletramp]

Ha. Take that all you Gordon haters. King of the road ( courses )! !Booya!

Guess Jr. doesn't have his daddy's talent at road courses, eh Saddletramp.
see post number 20. I will be the first to admit that Jr. sucks on roadcourses.

[Mtbrncofn]

Okay, okay .... then how about Lake Speed!

His interview after he won at Darlington is one of the all-time classics ... he was crying, mumblin, laughing, screamin. HE'S my favorite driver then.

Lake Speed has been gone for YEARS! ;) I just wondered if you had a marginal favorite out of those who still race.

[BroncoBuff]

Lake Speed has been gone for YEARS! ;) I just wondered if you had a marginal favorite out of those who still race.
I'm mostly kidding. I haven't followed NASCAR since the 80s (can you tell?)

I like the guys with personality. Whatever happened to Dick Trickle?

[Arkansas Bronco]

Whatever happened to Dick Trickle?
Penicillin

[Mtbrncofn]

I'm mostly kidding. I haven't followed NASCAR since the 80s (can you tell?)

I like the guys with personality. Whatever happened to Dick Trickle?


He faded quietly into oblivion like Lake Speed.

[BroncoBuff]

Okay ... how about Terry Labonte?

[Mtbrncofn]

Ok, the Iceman retired a couple of years ago and still ran a couple last year. He's doing the same this year, but I must mention the kick ass run he had at Sonoma. Best finish for him since 03. Always got a lot of love for Terry cause he was a Hendrick man. :thumbs:

[Mrs_Fish-Head]

FERNANDO ALONSO

[Mtbrncofn]

FERNANDO ALONSO

No no, this is for real drivers. The competitive kind. :P

[LordHelmchen]

No no, this is for real drivers. The competitive kind. :P
ahhh... you mean the farmers driving around in circles kind? ;)

ah well, then I take JPM... now that he is in NASCAR I will actually watch some more races :flower:

[Saddletramp]

ahhh... you mean the farmers driving around in circles kind? ;)

ah well, then I take JPM... now that he is in NASCAR I will actually watch some more races :flower:
That was kind of an shocking announcement. Should shake things up a bit.

[LordHelmchen]

That was kind of an shocking announcement. Should shake things up a bit.
seriously, I absolutely didn't see this coming... it's going to be quite interesting.

[Saddletramp]

seriously, I absolutely didn't see this coming... it's going to be quite interesting.
Nobody saw it coming. I got lucky and saw most of the press conference yesterday on Speed ( I was waiting for Nascar this morning to start). I have to hand it to JP, he is one smart driver. One of the reporters asked him how it would feel to hangout in 30th place in every race next year and He said He almost expected to be there as he and the team will be new to Nascar. Meaning they are new to each other. I am not really a CGR fan but I like JP because he is very up front.

[LordHelmchen]

Nobody saw it coming. I got lucky and saw most of the press conference yesterday on Speed ( I was waiting for Nascar this morning to start). I have to hand it to JP, he is one smart driver. One of the reporters asked him how it would feel to hangout in 30th place in every race next year and He said He almost expected to be there as he and the team will be new to Nascar. Meaning they are new to each other. I am not really a CCR fan but I like JP because he is very up front.
yes, he is, and with him one of the more entertaining character disappears from F1. I think it's good for NASCAR, it'll bring more international viewers (not that they really need it). I'm an avid F1 fan since 1984 and never really followed NASCAR. It's not that appealing to me (almost no tv coverage till now might have played a role in that) , but since this year all Nextel cup races are live on pay-tv here in Germany, and I watched the odd race here and there. I will pay more attention to it now, that's for sure.

[Mtbrncofn]

I read the JPM thing a couple of days ago. I also read another F1 driver is considering it too. Can't remember the name though. Paul Tracy has been trying to break in here and there. I saw him in a Busch race the other day. He's always been one of my favorite drivers. His temper is legendary.

I'd hoped he'd come drive for a Hendrick team, but I think he's already signed on with Childress.

[LordHelmchen]

I read the JPM thing a couple of days ago. I also read another F1 driver is considering it too. Can't remember the name though. Paul Tracy has been trying to break in here and there. I saw him in a Busch race the other day. He's always been one of my favorite drivers. His temper is legendary.

I'd hoped he'd come drive for a Hendrick team, but I think he's already signed on with Childress.
That would be Jacques Villleneuve... 1 time F1 Champion, Indy 500 winner and Indy Car champion and the son of legendary Gilles Villeneuves.

[Mtbrncofn]

Yes! That's him.

[Saddletramp]

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/cup/07/10/danica.patrick.nascar/index.html


Danica Patrick signs autographs before her July 2 IRL race at Kansas. Credit: AP

Patrick rumored to be interested in NASCAR
IRL driver's contract with Rahal-Letterman expires this year
NASCAR.COM
July 10, 2006
04:45 PM EDT (20:45 GMT)




Danica Patrick could be trying to find her way into a NASCAR ride, reports Ed Hinton of the Orlando Sentinel.

Patrick's father, T.J., who manages his daughter's career, was roaming the Nextel Cup garage area Sunday at Chicagoland during the USG Sheetrock 400, exploring the possible interest of teams and sponsors.

Inside the Numbers
Patrick's 2006 IRL stats
Race Start Finish

Homestead 17 17
St. Petersburg 14 6
Twin Ring Motegi 14 8
Indianapolis 10 8
Watkins Glen 16 8
Texas 14 12
Richmond 14 15
Kansas 12 11
Average 13.9 10.6


"I'm trying to get her here [into NASCAR]," T.J. Patrick told Hinton.

Danica Patrick, 24, exploded onto the Indy Racing League scene last year, nearly winning the Indianapolis 500 as a rookie driving for Rahal-Letterman Racing. But her contract with the team is up at the end of this season, and it appears she will not be returning to the team.

She reportedly is negotiating with other IRL teams as well as considering the possible jump to NASCAR.

T.J. Patrick and Danica's mother, Bev, were at Chicagoland on Sunday because "we've had some inquiries" from NASCAR teams, he told Hinton. They were guests of Roush Racing.

The possibility of the female driver coming to stock car racing comes on the heels of Sunday's announcement that Formula One driver Juan Pablo Montoya will drive the No. 42 Dodge next season for owner Chip Ganassi.





cool news. IMHO that is.

[Mtbrncofn]

Stay in the Sissy Racing League, Danica. We don't want you in NASCAR.

[LordHelmchen]

Stay in the Sissy Racing League, Danica. We don't want you in NASCAR.
because NASCAR is the tough **** or what?? Hilarious!

[Mtbrncofn]

NASCAR is way tougher than driving in those 'other' leagues. Almost every driver I've read quotes from that has driven a stock car has said so.

I just don't like girls in racing that's all. ;D

[LordHelmchen]

oh well, I beg to differ .. but let's not get into a pissing contest between different racing series... all have their different qualities and appeals.

Hmm, I have no problem with girls in racing, as long as they are competitive. I don't understand the hype around Danica either. She has the looks, but really, it's not like you can really see that while they are racing :afro:
Women's tennis is way better for that :yayaya:Not that you care about that at all, I guess.

[Saddletramp]

oh well, I beg to differ .. but let's not get into a pissing contest between different racing series... all have their different qualities and appeals.

Hmm, I have no problem with girls in racing, as long as they are competitive. I don't understand the hype around Danica either. She has the looks, but really, it's not like you can really see that while they are racing :afro:
Women's tennis is way better for that :yayaya:Not that you care about that at all, I guess.
damn straight she does.

[Mtbrncofn]

I won't get into the pissing contest either, but I will say this: I think all series each have a different level of difficulty. I've read F1 drivers or any open wheelers that have said it's really tough to drive a stock car because it's so heavy and doesn't respond like what they're used to.

OTOH, I've read stock car drivers that have said open wheelers are hard to drive because they're light and flighty. Different strokes for different folks.

Every woman I've ever watched try to make a go at stock car racing has stunk it up. I don't like Danica at all. I think she's a snotty, stuck up little bitch. I also don't think she has what it takes to drive a stock car. I'd love to see her try and fail miserably though. ;D

Honestly, the only thing I ever cheer for women in at all....is drag racing. Don't know why, but that's how I've always felt about it. I think women's sports are booooorrring.

[LordHelmchen]

well, aside from it not being really a TV friendly racing series, WRC is really great, and the drivers kick ass. Though you can't compare the skill set here either. Also Moto GP is fun to watch.
But what I don't get at all is drag racing... I'd rather watch curling or golf.

[Momof2littlebroncos]

johnson and kahne here....

[Saddletramp]

johnson and kahne here....
I used to like you.






























;)

[Mtbrncofn]

well, aside from it not being really a TV friendly racing series, WRC is really great, and the drivers kick ass. Though you can't compare the skill set here either. Also Moto GP is fun to watch.
But what I don't get at all is drag racing... I'd rather watch curling or golf.


What?! Seriously?! Absolute, raw horsepower and speed, that's what. The top fuel cars run 7000 horsepower, what's not to love?! 330 miles an hour. The noise is phenomenal.

I love drag racing.

[LordHelmchen]

Well, I can understand that seeing a drag race live would be thrill, with all that power and especially the sound.. but as for the racing itself? call me a Euro wussy oder whatever, but I do like turns, and they should go to the left and also to the right :P I would never watch drag racing on TV..

[Mtbrncofn]

You're missin out, LH!

[LordHelmchen]

na, thx, it's just not for me..live, for sure, but on TV..no way. I mean, it's only a quarter mile straight ahead.. not my type..I love cars going through turns like Eau Rouge, 130R..that's my type of racing :)

[Mtbrncofn]

Well thank God! It appears that whole Danica rumor crap was just that. Stay put, Danica....the IRL needs you a helluva lot more than NASCAR does.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Well thank God! It appears that whole Danica rumor crap was just that. Stay put, Danica....the IRL needs you a helluva lot more than NASCAR does.
Yea I dont like stuff when it gets over hyped. I think she is a pretty good racer but give it a few more years and wait for a few wins before you make the switch. To me this is kinda like the M. Wei and golf as in I have no prob with her playing with the men but wait till the time is right and she is doing well on her own tour because everytime she jumps in with the men the tourney gets overhyped.

[LordHelmchen]

:afro: nice win for MS today.. :thumbsup: a shame Massa couldn't keep the 2nd spot

[LordHelmchen]

53 min to go... Shuey for the win.. Alonso will finish 4th or DNF ... and all will be good ;D

[LordHelmchen]

Yes :strong: Sieg! Sieg! Sieg!

Luckily for Alonso Webber had a problem.. every point can decide the championship now!

[Mtbrncofn]

Congrats on getting whatever it was you wanted, LH. :)

I'm crossing my fingers that Brandon doesn't get knocked out in the first round like the previous two weeks.

[LordHelmchen]

Thx Mtbrncofn :)

Good luck for Brandon then... ^5

[Mtbrncofn]

Damnit, damnit, damnit! Neither of our good luck wishing did ****. Another first round loss and this came with at least one position loss in the points. :cuss:

[Mtbrncofn]

Glad to know someone besides me is hitting deer. I imagine it's much worse in an open wheel car, going God knows how fast. Get well soon, Cristiano.

http://www.champcarworldseries.com/News/Article.asp?ID=10691

Champ Car driver remains in intensive care after collision with deer at Road America

LOVELAND, Colo., Aug. 4, 2006, 3:20 pm EDT - Champ Car World Series driver Cristiano da Matta (#10 RuSPORT Ford-Cosworth / Lola / Bridgestone) is continuing to recover at Theda Clark Medical Center in Neenah, Wisc. Da Matta collided with a deer that had run onto the track near Turn Six at Road America in Elkhart Lake, Wisc., yesterday afternoon.

Dr. Chris Pinderski, Champ Car director of Medical Affairs, released the following statement from the hospital:

"Cristiano da Matta continues to recover from a serious head injury sustained yesterday during Champ Car Open Testing at Road America. He remains in the Intensive Care Unit at Theda Clark Memorial Hospital in Neenah, Wisconsin and is under close observation by the attending neurosurgeons."

[LordHelmchen]

I read it too this morning. Hope he gets well soon.
Poor deer :(
I guess it's just a coincidence, but then again..it seems in the last 10 years or so most of the serious and fatal crashes in one of the big racing series (F1, Cart/Champ Car, IRL, Nascar, WRC) have been in Champ Car.



On another note.. Alonso gets 2 sec penalty time on his qualifying results tomorrow ;D Hehe... the championship race will get even tighter..Michael for the win!!

[Mtbrncofn]

Poor deer!! More like POS, ****ing, stupid animal! ;D

[Mtbrncofn]

I read it too this morning. Hope he gets well soon.
Poor deer :(
I guess it's just a coincidence, but then again..it seems in the last 10 years or so most of the serious and fatal crashes in one of the big racing series (F1, Cart/Champ Car, IRL, Nascar, WRC) have been in Champ Car.



On another note.. Alonso gets 2 sec penalty time on his qualifying results tomorrow ;D Hehe... the championship race will get even tighter..Michael for the win!!
I still remember vividly, Greg Moore dying. That was heartbreaking.

You didn't happen to catch my fave Champ Car driver, Paul Tracy coming with blows with Tags, did you? Good stuff there. Tags just kept bugging him and buggin him and you could see it coming. Should have quit while he was ahead.

[LordHelmchen]

Poor deer!! More like POS, ****ing, stupid animal! ;D
That was the expected reaction.... ;D what's missing are the PETA insults... that would be so Orangemane :wiggle:

[LordHelmchen]

I still remember vividly, Greg Moore dying. That was heartbreaking.

You didn't happen to catch my fave Champ Car driver, Paul Tracy coming with blows with Tags, did you? Good stuff there. Tags just kept bugging him and buggin him and you could see it coming. Should have quit while he was ahead.


Nope, didn't see it. Champ car coverage is pretty bad here. It's a pity, I'd rather see Champ Car than the IRL. I can probably watch it again in Sept. , I'm switching from digital cable to sat.

the death that hit me the most was Ayrton Senna, as he was the one who got me into motor racing at the age of 8! He was my idol.

Greg Moore's and Jeff Krosnoff's crashes and resulting deaths were really devastating.

[LordHelmchen]

Just saw it in the warm up coverage to the F1 qualifying... I'm not sure if I saw all of it, but imo it's pretty stupid to try punching someone in the face when this person still has a helmet on ;D

Ok, watched it on youtube now.. well.. Paul Tracy kinda "won", but it would have been fair if would he would have gotten a good sound thrashing ;)

Like for example Danzig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjHiU8Zlzg

:D

[Mtbrncofn]

That was the expected reaction.... ;D what's missing are the PETA insults... that would be so Orangemane :wiggle:

I'll have those ready to go for next time. ;D

[Mtbrncofn]

Just saw it in the warm up coverage to the F1 qualifying... I'm not sure if I saw all of it, but imo it's pretty stupid to try punching someone in the face when this person still has a helmet on ;D

Ok, watched it on youtube now.. well.. Paul Tracy kinda "won", but it would have been fair if would he would have gotten a good sound thrashing ;)

Like for example Danzig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjHiU8Zlzg

:D


Well you notice that puss, Tagliani never removed his helmet. He picks a fight with a helmet on...what a wiener. I thought there was going to be nothing, but frickin Tags decided to go after him again, and Tracy isn't known for having a cool head. ;D That's why I like him.

[LordHelmchen]

Well you notice that puss, Tagliani never removed his helmet. He picks a fight with a helmet on...what a wiener. I thought there was going to be nothing, but frickin Tags decided to go after him again, and Tracy isn't known for having a cool head. ;D That's why I like him.


Well, I have to admit, Tags behaviour was unprofessional.. you see that accidents so often, and even if your opponent is the clear culprit, you just walk away. About the puss thing.. if he had removed his helmet first, he would have been less of a puss, but more of an idiot ;D

I think Paul got off a bit too easy with 7 points and three races on probation for his on-track action.

[LordHelmchen]

WOW! Waht a F1 race..the last 3 laps broke my heart... I screamed at the screen for I don't know how many laps..change tires, change tires!!!

anyway.. great race!!

Driving in the rain is just the best!!!

[Saddletramp]

Allstate 400 at the Brickyard
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
August 6, 2006
Race 21 of 36


Fin Start Car Driver
1 5 #48 Jimmie Johnson
2 20 #17 Matt Kenseth
3 10 #29 Kevin Harvick
4 2 #07 Clint Bowyer *
5 19 #6 Mark Martin
6 31 #8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. :strong: :strong: !Booya! !Booya!
7 37 #5 Kyle Busch
8 22 #99 Carl Edwards
9 32 #20 Tony Stewart
10 3 #2 Kurt Busch
16 16 #24 Jeff GordonNnyah! Nnyah! :thought: Hilarious!






Rank+/- (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2006/data/standings_unofficial_gain.html)Driver (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2006/data/standings_unofficial_dname.html)Points (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2006/data/standings_unofficial.html)Behind (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2006/data/standings_unofficial.html)
1--Jimmie Johnson (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jjohnson00/cup/index.html)3124 Leader
2--Matt Kenseth (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mkenseth00/cup/index.html)3017 -107
3--Jeff Burton (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jburton00/cup/index.html)2758 -366
4+1Kevin Harvick (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kharvick00/cup/index.html)2733 -391
5-1Kyle Busch (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/kbusch01/cup/index.html)2733 -391
6--Mark Martin (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/mmartin00/cup/index.html)2712 -412
7+1Denny Hamlin (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dhamlin00/cup/index.html)*2638 -486
8+1Jeff Gordon (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/jgordon00/cup/index.html)2627 -497
9+1Tony Stewart (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/tstewart00/cup/index.html)2615 -509
10+1Dale Earnhardt Jr. (http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/dearnhar01/cup/index.html)2612 -512


enjoy your points standing while it lasts sissyjeffie

[Mtbrncofn]

Good Lord, JR. fans suck. Come back when your driver actually won something worth a ****.

[Mtbrncofn]

WOW! Waht a F1 race..the last 3 laps broke my heart... I screamed at the screen for I don't know how many laps..change tires, change tires!!!

anyway.. great race!!

Driving in the rain is just the best!!!


Ok, I'm jealous now. You get to watch them on rain tires?! For years and years since I've watched racing, you hear about them slapping on the rain tires, and I have never, ever seen it happen in NASCAR.

They say they could possibly bring them out on a road course, which happens a whopping 2 times a year, but it's never even happened there. Of course, no way Jose on the ovals. I just want to see it once....on a stock car. :)

Sorry you had a bummer last 3 laps. My guy ran into trouble 9 laps in, but recovered well enough. Whew.

[Mtbrncofn]

Well, I have to admit, Tags behaviour was unprofessional.. you see that accidents so often, and even if your opponent is the clear culprit, you just walk away. About the puss thing.. if he had removed his helmet first, he would have been less of a puss, but more of an idiot ;D

I think Paul got off a bit too easy with 7 points and three races on probation for his on-track action.

It's much cooler to be an idiot than a puss! Duh. ;)

I don't think he got off too easy. It was fair, IMO. Tagliani kept pushing it til he snapped. Shoulda let it go. The on track thing was really stupid of PT, I agree.

Good Lord, imagine if this would have been Tony Stewart, Tags would have been laying in the middle of the track after he'd barely gotten his first word out. ;D

[Saddletramp]

Good Lord, JR. fans suck. Come back when your driver actually won something worth a ****.
JR. beating sissyjeffie and T.S. is winning something my dear. And right up until the moment you said I suck, I used to like you.

[Mtbrncofn]

Ha ha. They're thin skinned too. Actually that's odd, most of them can smack with the best of em. I used my generalization as a whole, so don't be too offended.

I just find it funny, this last month Jr sucked ass in every race and you haven't been here, but one good finish and here you are.

Gotta say, it's pretty pathetic you have to hang 'something' on not even winning a race.

Remember that warning I gave you some time ago? ;D It's come to pass.

[LordHelmchen]

Ok, I'm jealous now. You get to watch them on rain tires?! For years and years since I've watched racing, you hear about them slapping on the rain tires, and I have never, ever seen it happen in NASCAR.

They say they could possibly bring them out on a road course, which happens a whopping 2 times a year, but it's never even happened there. Of course, no way Jose on the ovals. I just want to see it once....on a stock car. :)

Sorry you had a bummer last 3 laps. My guy ran into trouble 9 laps in, but recovered well enough. Whew.


yuppaa... as F1 doesn't race on ovals it has to be monsoon like rain to stop a race. some of the best races ever were in the rain.. for example Barcelona 96 comes to my mind. The differences between the cars (which are huge in F1) are usually negated, and pure driver skill becomes a more determing factor (one of the negative sides of F1 is that you really need a great car to be able to achieve something), the boys are seperated from the men. Usually Hungary is one of the most boring GPs of the year, because it's almost impossible to overtake there. but in the rain..damn..that was a great, great race. Add to that we have two competing tire brands, which behaved differently in changing conditions, for example my favorite driver was at one time 5-6 seconds slower than his competitor for the WDC and then again 5-6 seconds faster! Aboslutely awesome races, even when he had a DNF with three laps to go. Luckily one of the other drivers was disqualified afterwards for being 2 kilos too light , so he got one really important championship point, and his rival DNF when he lost a wheel LOL

[LordHelmchen]

It's much cooler to be an idiot than a puss! Duh. ;)

I don't think he got off too easy. It was fair, IMO. Tagliani kept pushing it til he snapped. Shoulda let it go. The on track thing was really stupid of PT, I agree.

Good Lord, imagine if this would have been Tony Stewart, Tags would have been laying in the middle of the track after he'd barely gotten his first word out. ;D

Well, yes , for the off track action... he got fined money, as well as Tags..that's ok. But the on track should have been punished more.. just IMHO.

Hmm, and there's really not a lot I can say to counter "It's better..." LOL

But, if I want to see guys knocking their teeth in, I'll switch to boxing or MMA/ Though, now that I remember Sap 1998 when Schumi wanted to break DC in two.. I so hoped nobody would hold him back..that would have been hilarious.

[Mtbrncofn]

See? You admit its fun to see some fisticuffs occasionally too. Gotta make sure your driver has some spunk every once in awhile. :)

[Saddletramp]

well tomorrow is gonna suck big time. Watkins Glenn is probably Jr.'s worse track. Hope he can at least stay in the top 10 in points. :pray:

[Saddletramp]

this was the first road course race I have enjoyed.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I still dont like road courses. I also want to know what the hell is Kahne doing wrecking on the last lap 2 weeks in a row and both in the top 10 when it goes down.

[Saddletramp]

I still dont like road courses. I also want to know what the hell is Kahne doing wrecking on the last lap 2 weeks in a row and both in the top 10 when it goes down.
hell who knows. I am very damn happy Jr. is still 10th in points. :strong: :strong: :strong: :strong:

[Mtbrncofn]

I missed the road course race, but I already know it sucked because of who won.

Today's wasn't too bad though. Sixth in points. !Booya!

[Saddletramp]

you jump down my thought for not posting here for a week then you do the same thing? how does that work?

[Mtbrncofn]

It's called a vacation. ::)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.impawards.com/2006/posters/talladega_nights.jpg

[LordHelmchen]

summer break in F1, so no racing this weekend for me..again. 6 days till the start of the Turkey GP. then it has been 3 weeks, I'm seriously suffering from withdrawal

[Cash Money]

Good Busch race tonight.

Wish I was down there.

[Saddletramp]

I hate bristol. Superspeedway man myself.

[LordHelmchen]

oh well, I don't like ovals at all ;D

[Saddletramp]

oh well, I don't like ovals at all ;D
its a free country and or board I guess

[Mtbrncofn]

oh well, I don't like ovals at all ;D


Oh man, you are sorely missing out on this one, LH. Bristol is the best track on the circuit. 160,000 people pack that 1/2 mile track any time there's a NASCAR race there and it's sold out for a year or two in advance.

It's a good one!

[Cash Money]

Should be a good one again tonight.

Gettin' down to the wire. The Cup race should be sweet, but it should be on Labor Day weekend.

[Saddletramp]

yeah Man did kenseth have a car lsat night and what a move!!!! impressed me he did.

[Cash Money]

Look out for Hamlin.

He looks a little squirrelly.

[Saddletramp]

yeah and my boy starts at the rear of the field well almost 40th

[LordHelmchen]

Oh man, you are sorely missing out on this one, LH. Bristol is the best track on the circuit. 160,000 people pack that 1/2 mile track any time there's a NASCAR race there and it's sold out for a year or two in advance.

It's a good one!
watched it ... was awake anyway, watching the basketball world championship..switched between the two all the time. It was quite nice, but not really my type. Though I'm not into ovals, when I watch them, I think I prefer superspeedway...
the view of the racetrack with that 160,000 ppl is awesome though :)

[Mtbrncofn]

I was pleased enough with the results. :) Up to 5th in points!

[LordHelmchen]

good for you :)

Now it's 6 am already.. which means, as soon as I wake up, I will get to watch the GP in Turkey. Great track and Ferrari seem to have a dominating car. Should be able to cut into Alonso's lead a bit more.

[flair]

Jeff Gordon, my one and only. Always has been. ;D

I absolutely hate:
Tony Stewart
Kevin Harvick
Robby Gordon
Dale Jr.


I have to agree

[Mtbrncofn]

I have to agree

OOooooo, I like you. :)

[CBF1]

Was a huge Dale Sr fan, so it was natural that Dale Jr filled in after the day that NASCAR died.

DEI all the way and Jeff Gordan can suck a camal.

[Mtbrncofn]

DEI blows and has blown for a long time. ;D Busch championships, that's about all they can hack.

On the other racing front, great news for us Bernstein fans. Kenny Bernstein is unretiring to come back and drive a funny car next year. :thumbs:

[LordHelmchen]

Wow.. that was a great race last Sunday, with the best possible result for my driver.. and that on the day he announced his retirement.. Hollywood couldn't have come up with a better script!!!

[Mtbrncofn]

I thought about you when I saw that, LH. What a super bummer to have your guy retire. I hate it when my favorites retire. So do you have a new one lined up?

[LordHelmchen]

Cool stuff Mt :)

Yeah, it's a bummer.. though I expected it more or less. But I wanted him to drive one more year, alongside Kimi.. and I wanted him to drive one more time at Spa, as they didn't drive there the last few years but will again next season. The greatest track ever, also the first track he drove on, the track where he got his first win and the only track I've ever been to. I saw him win there 2001. It was awesome. As the last three races are China, Japan and Brazil I don't have a chance anymore to see him racing live.
For the first time since 84 I will be without a driver I'm really cheering for.

I like several drivers, but none of them will be able to replace him. I think I'll be on Kimi's side. And I will certainly support the remaining German drivers, especially Nico Rosberg and Nick Heidfeld and to a much lesser degree Ralf Schumacher. Sebastian Vettel, who was a BMW test driver the last two Fridays on racing weekends seems to have a lot of potential.
Nico will be my favorite though.

Next year will also be exciting as Lewis Hamilton , the new GP2 champion will probably enter F1 with McLaren Mercedes. An awesome talent.. add to that the first ever black driver in F1. Will he be the Tiger Woods (who actually said that Michael Schumacher is the best active athlete in the world :D ) of racing ?
Heikki Kovalainen is also a great talent, will race for Renault next year. What's up with those Finns? Racing talent seems to be in their genes.


And then Nelson Piquet Jr. should also enter F1 soon. He's the son of former 3 time champion Nelson Piquet. I didn't like his father, and I don't like him either. He will be my next driver to absolutely root against ;D Actually I think I could even start to hate him. Don't know why, but maybe because I have the impression that he's the ultimate spoiled brat.

[Mtbrncofn]

Oh come on! You have to have a fave. I know it's not the same, but you still have to have one! :)

It's funny to hear you talk of who's who and rivalries and someone's dad you didn't like so you won't like him either. Its just like the rest of us!

I was pleased with the overall result of the first race in the Chase today. Jeff came home third. Unfortunately that ****er, Harvick won. Ugh. Oh well, we're starting out on a good note.

Drag racing got rained out the whole damned weeked this weekend. That blew.

[Tom H.]

Ayrton Senna da Silva
Nigel Mansell
Ari Vatanen- (http://ja.metacafe.com/watch/123742/ari_vatanen_pikes_peak_1989_peugeot_climb_dance/)

[LordHelmchen]

oh, I will have one again....just not 100% sure who it will be :)

and today's race was simply amazing, after the qualifying yesterday in which MS finished 6th, a remarkable feat considering he was heavily disadvantaged with the Bridgestone tyres in the rain, I was reasonably expecting him finishing in 3rd place at the very,very best. To go on and win the race... wow. The championship is now tied at 116 points each , with 2 races to go. It doesn't get any better than that ;D

[LordHelmchen]

Ayrton Senna da Silva
Nigel Mansell
Ari Vatanen- (http://ja.metacafe.com/watch/123742/ari_vatanen_pikes_peak_1989_peugeot_climb_dance/)

nice choice of drivers, though I'd still take Walter Roehrl over Ari (and yes , I know that Ari was faster at Pikes Peak ;D ).

[Mtbrncofn]

Congrats on your driver, LH. I saw he won. Mine didn't fare so well this weekend and took a HUGE hit in the Championship chase. On to Talladega, which I usually just love....now I'm just worried.

[LordHelmchen]

Thx Mt... I saw Jeff retire and immediately thought of you. I can imagine how you felt.

[Mtbrncofn]

Why thanks, LH. If I had a set of balls and they had been kicked....that's about how I felt. :)

[Jens1893]

I´m not Schumi´s biggest fan, but he deserved a better ending to his career than this. He was leading the race when his engine blew up 16 laps before the end ... Alonso went on to win the race and how has a 10 point lead with 1 race to go. The only chance he still has is to win the Brazilian Grand Prix and hope Alonso doesn´t finish at all or doesn´t finish in the points ...

[Mtbrncofn]

I feel for you then, LH. Jeff was in the wrong place at the wrong time today too. The only saving grace was that there was big trouble for the points leader and a few others too.

[LordHelmchen]

Thx Mt.. same for you..I watched the end of Talladega as well.

[Tom H.]

nice choice of drivers, though I'd still take Walter Roehrl over Ari (and yes , I know that Ari was faster at Pikes Peak ;D ).

The first time I even heard of Ari Vatanen was in 1988. That is when a friend of mine started to drive using left foot braking. Can tell you it's saved me a few times. Half the time I don't even know the people racing when I watch European Rally racing. There's Collin McRae, Petter Solberg, Carlos Sainz and even Walter Röhrl who have dominated for longer peroids of time. I just remember Ari the best.

[LordHelmchen]

Wow, just wow.. poor MT... maybe I should stop watching Nascar, everytime I watch, something bad happens to Jeff...

[Mtbrncofn]

Absolutely un-****ING-believable! Talk about bad luck. Championship #5 isn't happening this year. I'm so incredibly disappointed. Put a real damper on my month, damnit. It was looking so good too, just like at Talladega.

Thanks for the sympathy, LH. I know you have to understand. :)

[COBronco 69]

GO JEFF BURTON. Never noticed there was anything on here cept football :)

Been rooting for him since he came on the scene in 93-94. Its been a tough road, the last few years. With a win at Dover and leading the chase, I couldnt be happier :)

[Mtbrncofn]

You mean like the last 5 or so? Jeff Burton has been almost non-existent til this year. :) He's moved up in my book because he doesn't seem to be such a whiner like he used to be. When he was in the hunt for a championship years ago, he would whine and cry about everything.

Obviously, Jeff is out, so of course I'd go with Jimmy for my next choice. But if JB should happen to pull it out, that'd be ok too.....as long as it is that supreme piece of **** teammate of his, Harvick.

[COBronco 69]

You mean like the last 5 or so? Jeff Burton has been almost non-existent til this year. :) He's moved up in my book because he doesn't seem to be such a whiner like he used to be. When he was in the hunt for a championship years ago, he would whine and cry about everything.

Obviously, Jeff is out, so of course I'd go with Jimmy for my next choice. But if JB should happen to pull it out, that'd be ok too.....as long as it is that supreme piece of **** teammate of his, Harvick.

like I said, a rough few years :) Now, I have a bone to pick with the whining comment...not so much that it was or wasnt true, but you are a Gordon fan and pointing out whining issues? COME AWN! Hilarious!

Its all good though, we can argue about drivers and I wont take it personal :) It has been some tough luck for Team Unibrow this year (Gordon and Johnson)
and it looks like Kenseth is the guy to watch out for.

[Mtbrncofn]

HEY! Team Unibrow?!! Don't think I care for that! :) Seriously, why does everyone say Jeff is such a whiner? Every other driver whines just as much as he does when something happens to them too.

I still call Jeff Burton, "CB". It's stuck even after all these years and the whining is down. Cry-baby. ;D

I hate Roush teams. I'd much rather see your guy win it than any Roush asshole.

[Tom H.]

Hey LH I did look up Walter Röhrl and he was saying that if he had raced in 1988 he would've improved his time over 87. I wish he had raced since that probably would've put him on top. After all he did beat Ari the year before.

[Jens1893]

The greatest racing career of all time is over. Schumacher yesterday finished fourth in his last Grand Prix. His chances to still pip Alonso for the title were slim, but they were shattered when Alonso´s team mate Fisichella (accidentally?) blew up Michael´s tire early in the race. He still managed to mount a comeback and finish fourth, but he wasn´t to win his 8th World Championship. Schumacher´s team mate Felipe Massa won the race.

7 World Titles
91 Grand Prix wins
68 Pole Positions
154 Top 3 finishes

[LordHelmchen]

Hey LH I did look up Walter Röhrl and he was saying that if he had raced in 1988 he would've improved his time over 87. I wish he had raced since that probably would've put him on top. After all he did beat Ari the year before.

Walter was an amazing driver... :) It's not a coincidence he was voted to best rally driver of all time and rally driver of the millenium (I know, that sounds a bit strange :D)

[LordHelmchen]

The greatest racing career of all time is over. Schumacher yesterday finished fourth in his last Grand Prix. His chances to still pip Alonso for the title were slim, but they were shattered when Alonso´s team mate Fisichella (accidentally?) blew up Michael´s tire early in the race. He still managed to mount a comeback and finish fourth, but he wasn´t to win his 8th World Championship. Schumacher´s team mate Felipe Massa won the race.

7 World Titles
91 Grand Prix wins
68 Pole Positions
154 Top 3 finishes


well, well... it was a blast.. now I'm without a favorite driver for the first time since 1984/85... I don't think I really realize it yet.. that will probably come March 18th...

[Mtbrncofn]

well, well... it was a blast.. now I'm without a favorite driver for the first time since 1984/85... I don't think I really realize it yet.. that will probably come March 18th...

Aw....I feel for ya, LH. At least you can say he was probably the best or one of the best ever. :)

[Arkansas Bronco]

Does anyone know what happened to Kahne yesterday. I seen him in the garage getting out of his car in the middle of the race and he didnt finish. Since the race was on the same time the Broncos were playing I missed it.

[LordHelmchen]

ahne, in a classic case of role-reversal, pinched his No. 9 Dodge, which was running 10th at the time, up into the No. 40 Dodge of the rookie Stremme, heading into Turn 1 on Lap 247.

Stremme, running two laps down in the frontstretch high line, was wiped out of the race when Kahne inexplicably disregarded spotter and brother Kale's warning that Stremme was outside him -- and turned right anyway.

http://www.nascar.com/2006/news/headlines/cup/10/30/kkahne_mmartin/index.html

[LordHelmchen]

Aw....I feel for ya, LH. At least you can say he was probably the best or one of the best ever. :)

Thx :)

Oh yes, he was... THE best? who knows, that's up for debate... there are a few names who deserve to be in this discussion, but it's only a select, really elite few. But without a doubt, he was the most successful ever.

[Mtbrncofn]

Does anyone know what happened to Kahne yesterday. I seen him in the garage getting out of his car in the middle of the race and he didnt finish. Since the race was on the same time the Broncos were playing I missed it.

Ahahahahahaa! Kasey had one of his old brain farts and took himself out. ;D

[Arkansas Bronco]

It seems to me that Kahne has the Manning steriotype. Has alot of talent but when put under pressure he chokes. I like the guy but he raced fine all year and when it came to crunch time he has been screwing up alot.

[Circle Orange]

THREE was the bomb. Dale WAS what these drivers PLAY at. :~ohyah!:

[Mtbrncofn]

Three was the bomb alright. He went off often and caused lots of damage. Ha!

[ABA6776]

The points system is a joke. My faves are Dale Jr. and Khane. I also like Tony and hope he wins out to show just how stupid the new system really is!!

[Calif. Bronco]

It seems to me that Kahne has the Manning steriotype. Has alot of talent but when put under pressure he chokes. I like the guy but he raced fine all year and when it came to crunch time he has been screwing up alot.

I'm a huge #9 fan (since the days of Bill Elliot) but on one hand I have to somewhat agree with you. He does seem to do dumb things, not just late in the season but also late in races. How many times has he crashed in the last few laps of a race? :Whaaaa!:

On the other hand, I do think it's waytoo early to talk about him being a choke artist. After all, it's only his third season and these last 9 races are the only ones he's run in the chase. If he makes the next few chases and finishes in the lower half each time then I think you're onto something, IMHO.