OT - Turtle Ice

[loborugger]

Hey, I know we have a ton of car enthusiasts here. I saw an ad for this Turtle Ice, made by Turtle Wax. You are supposed to be able to put this on every exterior surface of the car (plastic, rubber, rims, basically everything but glass) and it polishes to a high gleem.

Any users? Does it follow thru on its claims?

Thanx.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Try it out and let us know :)


http://www.icepolish.com/?tid=31


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[Florida_Bronco]

Turtle Wax Ice is a synthetic polymer sealant, which is different from a traditional wax. A sealant will last longer because it doesn't break down like a carnuba wax, but it makes the paint look more like it's wrapped in plastic then deep and wet like carnuba. If you want a sealant, I'd recommend you use 4 Stars Ultimate Paint Protection or Duragloss Clear Coat Polish, both are far superior to Ice. Just be sure to clay bar the car because applying either one.

I've also never been impressed with any of Turtle Wax products.

Duragloss: http://www.duragloss.com/product.asp?pid=269

4 Star: http://www.detailersparadise.com/View.asp?ProductID=91162005239392-2491365463

[OrangeShadow]

i dont like turtle wax products at all. i like mothers or meguiars

[Florida_Bronco]

I love Meguiar's #16 carnuba wax, too bad it was discontinued.

[srt4jam]

Turtle wax ice is a good product if you own a Chevy Avalanche with the cladding. A traditional wax is easy to get all over the plastick if your not sudper-duper careful.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

I like taking my truck down to the detailer and not ever having to wax another vehicle... ever...

But back in the day, I liked that blue stuff called "Nubol" or something to that effect...

[srt4jam]

"zymol"
It's good stuff!

[loborugger]

I take it no one has actually tried it then... I think I will try it. I googled the stuff earlier and found myself on an RX-8 enthusiast BB of all places. Most of the reviews on it were pretty good.

[Florida_Bronco]

SRT4JAM - there are waxes out there now that will not stain the plastic molding. I personally coat the plastic molding on my Mustang with Duragloss Convertible Top & Vinyl dressing. Doing this prevents the wax from adhering to the plastic, so it just wipes right off. The dressing will also take out oxidation/fading on plastic.

Zymol is also good, but the cheap stuff sold at Autozone and other places is not nearly as good as the more expensive versions sold online.

Lobo - I've used the Ice, and believe me when I say that you can get far superior products, both in shine and longevity, for around the same price, sometimes less. I paid around $10 for the Duragloss, which came with the polish, a "prep" solution, applicator pad and a sample of their Cherry Car Wash that was large enough to do my whole car.

[Mtbrncofn]

Since this is a car thread, what is the best recommendation for shining up your rims? I got my new rims and wanted to shine them up and make them easier to clean the brake dust off. My hubby had some OLD Mother's or Meguiar's, can't remember which and it blew. I'm thinking it had to do with it being probably 10 years old or so.

[Florida_Bronco]

Since this is a car thread, what is the best recommendation for shining up your rims? I got my new rims and wanted to shine them up and make them easier to clean the brake dust off. My hubby had some OLD Mother's or Meguiar's, can't remember which and it blew. I'm thinking it had to do with it being probably 10 years old or so.

What kind of finish is on the wheels? (mag, chrome, aluminum, polished aluminum)

Tell me that and I can tell you what to use.

[Mtbrncofn]

Chrome.

[Florida_Bronco]

Ok here we go...

Clean: My weapon of choice is Eagle One's All Wheel and Tire Cleaner (http://www.eagleone.com/pages/products/product.asp?itemid=1003&cat=5006) because it does a great job of cleaning off the break dust and does not contain harsh acids. I do one wheel at a time, covering the wheel in the cleaner and let it set for about 30-60 seconds, then spray off. If you have really bad brake dust or they haven't been cleaned in awhile, it may take 2 applications and/or require you wiping down the wheel with a rag or wheel brush.

Polish: Klasse All-in-One (http://classic-motoring.stores.yahoo.net/kla-16.html) or One Bad Polish (http://www.onebadpolish.com/) both work great as far as shine goes.

Top it off with Poorboys Wheel Sealant (http://www.superiorcarcare.net/pbws.html) to help keep them looking better for longer.

[hades]

Zaino, end of story, best car polish ever made on the entire earth, ever.

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Zaino, end of story, best car polish ever made on the entire earth, ever.
http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc
Never heard of it before but a little research seems to say others believe that too.

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WHICH WAX IS BETTER? Zaino or Zymol?
NSXSC.com Performs a test of these two popular waxes.

For some time now, there has been a great debate being raged on the NSX Forums about which wax is better; Zaino or Zymol. I've had my doubts about waxes over the years, but never took the time to buy 3 or 4 products to test them side-by-side. But after all of the discussions on the forums, I figured it was time that we settled this thing once and for all.

To be fair, I should tell you that I've been a long time fan of Zymol's products. Before I began this test, I would swear by the NSX Wax. Plus, Chuck Bennett, the owner of Zymol is a great guy who is always willing to support the NSX community during big events.

The bad thing about doing a test is getting people to help judge the results during the test. Only so many NSX'ers have the time to come over to my house to touch, feel, and decide which wax looks best on an old NSX hood. I had to figure out a way to make the test fair to the manufacturers and to the NSX community.

I decided to take a 1991 Acura NSX hood with minor damage and section it off, then apply the two waxes and see which looked the best and lasted the longest. My wife was a big help, she figured out how to section off the hood without damaging it. She went to a local car wash and asked them to donate a wax pencil which worked great and held up perfect for the 30 day test period.

I had some Zymol NSX wax, but needed to get some Zaino and maybe a couple of others to test. I emailed 3M, Zaino and Meguiar's. Only Zaino contacted me back and offered to send me some products to test. Since some people swear by Meguiar's, I decided to go buy some for the test. So we used Zymol, Zaino, and Meguiar's. I even bought a cheap bottle of the blue Zymol that you see in Wal-Marts to see how much better the expensive Zymol NSX wax is. I've been told that the cheap Zymol wax is just re-bottled Turtle Wax. But I wasn't able to confirm that rumor.

WAXES & POLISHES TESTED:
Zaino Z-2 Show Car Polish - $12.95 per bottle
Zaino Z-1 Show Car Polish LOK, "Pre-Cleaner and Gloss Conditioner" - $8.95 per bottle
Zymol NSX Glaze - $144.00 per jar
Zymol HD-Cleanse - $25.50 per bottle
Meguiar's Gold Class, Liquid Clear Coat Car Wax - $12.95
Zymol Natural Liquid Auto Polish - $20.00
CONT (http://tinyurl.com/jmro5)


http://www.nsxsc.com/wax/hood01.jpg

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http://tinyurl.com/6pzzd

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[Florida_Bronco]

Zaino is also a top notch product, the longevity is second to none.

[Hotrod]

Chrome.

I just use a can of Never-dull. Works great cleans & polishs chrome to a nice burn your eyes out in the sun shine.

[loborugger]

Thanx for the info. In my research on the Turtle Ice I came across that Zaino stuff and it seems to be universally regarded as the best. Thanx. I will slap that on my mustang.

[RhymesayersDU]

Since this is a car thread, what is the best recommendation for shining up your rims? I got my new rims and wanted to shine them up and make them easier to clean the brake dust off. My hubby had some OLD Mother's or Meguiar's, can't remember which and it blew. I'm thinking it had to do with it being probably 10 years old or so.
I've got chrome rims as well, I use Black Magic Wheel Cleaner, and I am always very happy with the results.

http://www.autobarn.net/blmanowhcl.html

Now that I've read this thread, it's reminded me how much I need to get my car washed. Maybe I'll do that today. And clean my rims.

[Mtbrncofn]

Ok here we go...

Clean: My weapon of choice is Eagle One's All Wheel and Tire Cleaner (http://www.eagleone.com/pages/products/product.asp?itemid=1003&cat=5006) because it does a great job of cleaning off the break dust and does not contain harsh acids. I do one wheel at a time, covering the wheel in the cleaner and let it set for about 30-60 seconds, then spray off. If you have really bad brake dust or they haven't been cleaned in awhile, it may take 2 applications and/or require you wiping down the wheel with a rag or wheel brush.

Polish: Klasse All-in-One (http://classic-motoring.stores.yahoo.net/kla-16.html) or One Bad Polish (http://www.onebadpolish.com/) both work great as far as shine goes.

Top it off with Poorboys Wheel Sealant (http://www.superiorcarcare.net/pbws.html) to help keep them looking better for longer.

Thanks for the recommendations! I'll give them a try. I had just gotten my new wheels and tires last week and I was getting ready to give the whole thing a thorough washing and waxing. Of course, mother nature stepped in and decided to kick me in the nuts ( if I had any ). I hit another ****ing deer yesterday morning. Now I guess the body shop gets to wash it for me after they get done with it....again.

****ing deer. :cuss:

[Hotrod]

Thanks for the recommendations! I'll give them a try. I had just gotten my new wheels and tires last week and I was getting ready to give the whole thing a thorough washing and waxing. Of course, mother nature stepped in and decided to kick me in the nuts ( if I had any ). I hit another ****ing deer yesterday morning. Now I guess the body shop gets to wash it for me after they get done with it....again.

****ing deer. :cuss:

I highly recomment one of these but in chrome :yep:

http://www.ludensimplement.com/var/plain/storage/images/catalog/vehicles_accessories/ranch_hand_chevy_tahoe_2002_grill_guard/7947-1-eng-US/ranch_hand_chevy_tahoe_2002_grill_guard_large.jpg

[Mtbrncofn]

Have one, thank God. It's saved me both times from a lot more damage than was caused. This one I hit more head one, so it really minimalized the damage. It bent it back a lot though, more than last time. On the site the little bastard hit, the grill guard is just about snug on my ( broken ) headlight.

I haven't gone in to get the estimate yet, but I'd image at least $2500. Last time it ended up at almost 5k, and it wasn't much to look at. Neither is this. It's amazing how much something that looks not so bad can cost.

[Florida_Bronco]

Beerslug - Again, Zaino is a very nice product and their customer service is top notch. Just a quick correction though, Zaino is neither a polish nor a wax, it is a synthetic polymer sealant. A polish, by definition, has abrasives in the formula to remove imperfections.

Hot Rod - Never-dull is a pretty good OTS (off the shelf) product, but there is alot better out there. I'd be willing to bet if you use the same steps I outlined in post #14, not only would you never go back to Never-Dull, but you'd get alot more time in between polishing your wheels.

Lobo - What year and color is your Mustang? A few of the Ford colors like White (which my 94 GT is) and yellow only respond well to a few certain products.

[Florida_Bronco]

Also I'd like to add that no matter how good of a product you use, the prep work will make all the difference in the world. At the very least, you need to clay bar the entire car and use some form of a paint cleaner to remove oxidation.

[Hotrod]

I'll have to take a look into some of those suggestions FLBronco

[hades]

Lobo - What year and color is your Mustang? A few of the Ford colors like White (which my 94 GT is) and yellow only respond well to a few certain products.

My Stang is yellow and the Zaino made a very noticeable difference. We have also used it on my wifes Cadillac that was pearl white and it was noticeable there too. Dark colors like black love it the best tho, and red. Red looks wet after the Zaino has been removed, it is awesome stuff! :thumbsup:

[loborugger]

Lobo - What year and color is your Mustang? A few of the Ford colors like White (which my 94 GT is) and yellow only respond well to a few certain products.


Its an 06 and yellow - doesnt even have 3000 miles on it!!! The reason I got interested in the Turtle Ice is cuz it seemed like a one stop shop - put it on the rims, trim, & paint then buff and your done. But often when something sounds too ez or too good to be true, it usually is. However, after reading a few posts and doing some research the Zaino stuff sounds like the way to go.

[hades]

Its an 06 and yellow - doesnt even have 3000 miles on it!!! The reason I got interested in the Turtle Ice is cuz it seemed like a one stop shop - put it on the rims, trim, & paint then buff and your done. But often when something sounds too ez or too good to be true, it usually is. However, after reading a few posts and doing some research the Zaino stuff sounds like the way to go.


Trust me, you will love Zaino. get the claybar from anywhere that sells one, but at teh Zaino store, get the ZFX and Z2 and put about 3 coats on. Each coat makes the shine deeper. It is easy to put on and wipe off. Buy some new white soft towels too.

Of every product I have ever used for anything, not just car related, I have never ever been as impressed as I am with Zaino.

Zaino can be applied to the taillights, headlights, etc. But I do not use it on the rims or windows. And if you get some Zaino, wash the car with Dawn dish soap first to remove any old wax. I also recommend the Zaino car soap for washing later.

I'm a Zaino freak, I love the stuff!