Al-Qaeda planned a poison gas attack on NY subways

[SoCalBronco]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1205309,00.html

[youcandoit1687]

wow! thanks for that one socal. it just shows that the gov cant inform the people of everything and that we gotta trust them in their fight against terrorism

[GonzoLays]

wow! thanks for that one socal. it just shows that the gov cant inform the people of everything and that we gotta trust them in their fight against terrorism

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector. ~ Plato

[GonzoLays]

Al-Qaeda planned a poison gas attack on NY subways

How can this be proven? Some supposed "CIA mole?" Where was this mole during 9/11?

And all of this is coming out in some book? HA!

You got to give the government a lot of leeway to believe half the cockamany stories they throw at us.

[RhymesayersDU]

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector. ~ Plato
Celtics In 4?

[GonzoLays]

Celtics In 4?

No, Nuggets in six. Book it.

[SteveTensi13]

How can this be proven? Some supposed "CIA mole?" Where was this mole during 9/11?

And all of this is coming out in some book? HA!

You got to give the government a lot of leeway to believe half the cockamany stories they throw at us.

Yea, that world trade center thing must've been all smoke and mirrors. As Michael Moore once said, "There is no terrorist threat!"

[watermock]

The left never fails to amaze me. As Bob would say, usually mistakenly, :deflection.

Yeah, where were CLINTON'S moles? It's just so damn predicatable. I swear the left wants us to lose this war so they can gloat and use it as a way to power. The security of the country be damned. I'm not playing the blame game. Ship it to the circle jerk room so they can ridicule it.

[GonzoLays]

Yea, that world trade center thing must've been all smoke and mirrors. As Michael Moore once said, "There is no terrorist threat!"

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. ~ James Madison


Oh please big daddy protect us! We are afraid of those turban heads. Why do they want to kill us? Oh daddy, was it you that was ****ing with them in the first place? Now they want to retaliate against us? Is that what is? We stuck our nose in their business and now they are our enemy? Oh daddy, why did you do that? Now I have to beg you to protect us from those damn turban heads! Do whatever it takes!! Take away my privacy, search me on the street, raid my house, I don't care! Just please protect me from those evil doers! While I don't really understand your crazy ways daddy, I got to believe that what you do is in my best interests! I got to believe! While only a handful of Americans really knows what goes on in the CIA and all their clandestine operations, I got to believe that they are in this great nation's best interests!! Thank God you are protecting us!! Praise Jesus!!

[watermock]

You a bonafied moron.

[Clockwork Orange]

What happened to the days that they'd just raise the threat level to orange or red or whatever the **** colors that were supposed to scare us?

[watermock]

WTF? Ever see weather alerts? We are under yellow. NY has been under orange since 9/11. Is this beyond your comprehension?

[Clockwork Orange]

WTF? Ever see weather alerts? We are under yellow. NY has been under orange since 9/11. Is this beyond your comprehension?

Grab your bottle of Old Grandad, your copy of Barely Legal & your tin foil hat and go hide under the bed until they tell you it's safe to come out, you spineless, callow piece of ****.

Better yet, get in the closet. The surroundings will be much more familiar to you.

[watermock]

Yeah right moron. Instead of being glad we stopped another attack, it's just another excuse to spin it into Bush Bashing and personal insults. Unbelievable.
Your a dumbass that didn't have anything to say, so you started calling names. Are you color blind? Is that the problem here?

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah right moron. Instead of being glad we stopped another attack, it's just another excuse to spin it into Bush Bashing and personal insults. Unbelievable.
Your a dumbass that didn't have anything to say, so you started calling names. Are you color blind? Is that the problem here?

I just love that you continue to be exposed as the shivering little biatch that you are. ****ing coward.

Now be a good boy and hide under your desk, there might be a nuclear blast coming soon and that will keep you safe.

[watermock]

Whatever, nice argument idiot. Your in the appeasment crowd...****ing coward.

[Clockwork Orange]

Whatever, nice argument idiot. Your in the appeasment crowd...****ing coward.

And you're just one of the flock, you ****ing sheep.

Don't worry mock, your liver will give out long before those big bad terrorists come for you. Until then, stay scared you ****ing limp wrist.

[watermock]

I'm not in any flock dimwit, your the one brainwashed. I guess Michael Moore was correct. There is no terrorist threat.

[Clockwork Orange]

I'm not in any flock dimwit, your the one brainwashed. I guess Michael Moore was correct. There is no terrorist threat.

You're another of the pathetic fvckholes who are scared ****less of terrorists. You'd believe the Bush administration if they told you that the Boogeyman was under your bed because you're a complete sheep and a limp dick coward.

Pussy Ha!

[watermock]

Gee wizzinator...I was wondering when Bush would come up in the conversation. I'm shocked. Look you appeaser, I'm done with the conversation, all you have done is hide behind insults. You don't think I knew you wouldn't be able to contain the name Bush for long could you? How pathetic. Go to the circle jerk room, there you will all be able to spin it anyway you want and get wild jackoffs of approval. It's not flying here. The fact is we NOW have moles. We NOW have information. All your going to do next is try to divert this into the Iraq war and Bush. Go on...go ahead...it's actually funny.

[Clockwork Orange]

Gee wizzinator...I was wondering when Bush would come up in the conversation. I'm shocked. Look you appeaser, I'm done with the conversation, all you have done is hide behind insults. You don't think I knew you wouldn't be able to contain the name Bush for long could you? How pathetic. Go to the circle jerk room, there you will all be able to spin it anyway you want and get wild jackoffs of approval. It's not flying here. The fact is we NOW have moles. We NOW have information. All your going to do next is try to divert this into the Iraq war and Bush. Go on...go ahead...it's actually funny.

Go hide behind your usual bottle of liquid courage you ****ing waste of oxygen.

The only thing that's really funny here is the fact that it's past 8:30 P.M. and you're still sober enough to post. I'd have figured you for passed out in a puddle of your own piss by now.....but then you probably already emptied your bladder straight down your leg when you saw the name Al Qaeda on this thread. ****ing coward.

[TheDave]

Yeah right moron. Instead of being glad we stopped another attack, it's just another excuse to spin it into Bush Bashing and personal insults. Unbelievable.


From the title....

"The plot was called off by Bin Laden's No. 2 only 45 days from zero hour"



...and you were the first to bring up Bush... just helping keep score :~ohyah!:

[watermock]

You're another of the pathetic fvckholes who are scared ****less of terrorists. You'd believe the Bush administration if they told you that the Boogeyman was under your bed because you're a complete sheep and a limp dick coward.

p***Y Ha!

Really Dave? Look at the post before I mentioned Bush. Idiot. Along with countless assertions mostly of a personal nature, Cockwork Orange brought up Bush, and he inferred it several times before that, asserting I was some zombie following Bush and cleaning up his droppings and eating them. Nothing could be further from the truth actually, but I'm not self delusional. Anyone who isn't concerned about terrorism is a fool. Scared? No. All I have been fending off are assertions. Shut up Dave. Want to know why Bin Laden called the attack off? Maybe he's sick and tired of hiding in caves for the past 5 years and remembers what happened last time he attacked New York. The fact remains that we now are starting to crack the egg or we wouldn't even know about this. You obviously don't follow the news, the fact is that Bin Laden didn't agree with Zaquawi's tactics and was trying to bide his time till he could move again, hopefully against a complacent appeasment president after 2008. That's the fact, Jack. He's scared. Not me.

If your long term memory has shorted out, I said that there would be an insurgency in 2001, but I didn't expect the radicalism to reach so deep, my bad for overestimating the truely brainwashed. Has it been handled right? That depends on who you talk to, but I would say no. If it was up to me there wouldn't be Club Gitmo. Wouldn't need it.

This is wonderful. The thread will now be taken to the war room, just watch.

[Clockwork Orange]

You're scared that this thread will end up in the war room? What's wrong mock? You afraid of LABF just like you're afraid of the terrorists?

Pussy Ha!

[TheDave]

Really Dave? Look at the post before I mentioned Bush. Idiot.

Let's do that....

Grab your bottle of Old Grandad, your copy of Barely Legal & your tin foil hat and go hide under the bed until they tell you it's safe to come out, you spineless, callow piece of ****.

Better yet, get in the closet. The surroundings will be much more familiar to you.

I don't see Bush in that statement... do you?

[watermock]

Hardly, just correcting the Dave. I'm not scared of him, he will just spam my comments off the board with BartCop cartoons and you will all go back to the circle jerk. That is all he will do. If you could name all the crap he's been wrong about he would make Boob look like the Oracle of Delphi. I'm just telling you what will happen. People start dragging opinions, which I haven't just facts in, and it either goes to the butt or the war room. Happens all the time. I can't wait till you can smell your own farts in something that was very interesting before it became a joke off.

[TheDave]

Want to know why Bin Laden called the attack off? Maybe he's sick and tired of hiding in caves for the past 5 years and remembers what happened last time he attacked New York.

Bin Laden didn't call off the attack... His #2 guy did :thumbs:

[Kaylore]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1205309,00.html
I'm sure this is just one of many many horrible things that they've planned against us.

[watermock]

Why don't you go back to post one. His #2 guy did? I allready explained what I think happened. Bin Laden is the coward and knew if he did this second attack it would be a magnitude greater to where we would of leveled those mountains. You didn't hear a word I said. He knows he can't strike till he has an appeaser in the Oval Office. He hits the subway, he's going to get some serious revenge. What part of the post didn't you understand or even read?

BTW Dave, you did see Bush mentioned before me, you forgot to admit your error...but thats ok.

[TheDave]

BTW Dave, you did see Bush mentioned before me, you forgot to admit your error...but thats ok.

I would if it actually happened...


SteveTeni13 Mentioned Michael More in #7
You mentioned Clinton in #8
Gonzo mentioned both daddy and Jesus in #9
Clockwork used the word "They" in #11

You said Bush in post #14

Sorry boss but facts are a b!tch sometimes ;D

[watermock]

Fine, the fact is we now have people on the ground, something Clinton didn't think he needed...satellites were enough. You don't think they saw the increased security? Whatever. Or maybe Bin Laden remember what happened the last time he attacked New York. Maybe that was it huh.

[watermock]

Actually I said it would TURN INTO BUSH BASHING on post #14! I made no comment, other than what was to come. Was I right? Want to see quote 14?

All I did was say that he wouldn't be able to resist bringing up Bush. Kiss my ass. I made no comment about Bush at all. I just said just watch and it will happen. Every comment amounted to basically blind neocon, a term I'm sure Cockwork Orange learned from the esteemed scholar LABF.

[TheDave]

just pointed out the fact that you brought up bush... and was right... Now back to your drunken tirades

[Clockwork Orange]

Actually I said it would TURN INTO BUSH BASHING on post #14! I made no comment, other than what was to come. Was I right? Want to see quote 14?

All I did was say that he wouldn't be able to resist bringing up Bush. kiss me. I made no comment about Bush at all. Moron. I just said just watch and it will happen.

And thus you were the first one to mention Bush, asswipe.

[watermock]

NO assface, I said you would make the first COMMENT on Bush. I didn't. Nice try.

Yeah right moron. Instead of being glad we stopped another attack, it's just another excuse to spin it into Bush Bashing

Now you can complain that we didn't "stop another attack" but now maybe your color blind ass might understand why NY has been under orange alert now. Your splitting pubic hairs here. Now it's become who mentioned Bush first? Isn't this about a thwarted terrorist attack with cyanide on the NY subway system? Why do you think they called it off there buddy? Hmm? The UN had an intervention?

I know why. The response would of been catastrophic for Al Queada, and Bin Laden knew it. He pulls that stunt, he knows all bets are off x10.

[Clockwork Orange]

NO assface, I said you would make the first COMMENT on Bush. I didn't. Nice try.

I don't speak drunken loser, so I think there's a language barrier here. Oh well.

TJ should keep you on a leash, that's what most do to keep their pets under control in public.

[Maximus]

Actually I said it would TURN INTO BUSH BASHING on post #14! I made no comment, other than what was to come. Was I right? Want to see quote 14?

All I did was say that he wouldn't be able to resist bringing up Bush. Kiss my ass. I made no comment about Bush at all. I just said just watch and it will happen. Every comment amounted to basically blind neocon, a term I'm sure Cockwork Orange learned from the esteemed scholar LABF.

While giving praise to the bumbling idiot in the white house don't forget that NYC just had funding from "Home Land Security Cut by 40% New York and DC are primary targets according to the fear mongers... and they cut funding and distribute it to some soybean farmer out in the middle of syberia!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/31/AR2006053101364.html

[youcandoit1687]

i was going to post on this until i saw how much flaming was going on lol. jeez, politics are horrible like that. i will comment that Gonzo needs to not make racial slurs like "turbanhead". those kinds of things are pretty offensive and just show an uneducated person behind them IMO

[watermock]

What are you a mute or something? Ok, now typing isn't said or speaking? The fact is I said you would be the first to comment on Bush. I said just watch. If you want to play these mind games, we are all supposed to say...err, type...He typed that CockWork Orange would be the first one to "type" about Bush? This incredible. Your going into said vs. typed now? It's commonly accepted that a comment made on a board can be accepted as "says or said". Your an idiot. The fact still remains I said, or "typed" that you would be the first one to COMMENT on Bush. Next time you "type" that "I said" something, you can remember that idiotic comment.

You have so completely lost the context of the threat it's just pathetic. Oh, now you want to bring up the administrator? Your the one out of line. You've totally made this personal with improper accusations, insults and assertions while I have systematically destroyed your argument. It actually bothers you that they didn't gas the subway doesn't it. Then you could blame Bush right? I'm so tired of watching the left beg for losing it's honestly getting so damn dissapointing.

What part of realizing there was a terrorist threat you don't understand? I'm not going into how the entire intelligence structure was being redone 6 months after Bubba left. It was a shambles.

[watermock]

While giving praise to the bumbling idiot in the white house don't forget that NYC just had funding from "Home Land Security Cut by 40% New York and DC are primary targets according to the fear mongers... and they cut funding and distribute it to some soybean farmer out in the middle of syberia!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/31/AR2006053101364.html

Here we go, the thread is going even more off topic. Let me get this straight. According to the "fear mongers" NYC is a prime target. That very term would insinuate that they are being unreasonable correct? There is nothing about soybean farmers other than an idiotic slight. The idea of doing more with less seems to have been lost in the last 40 years.

[Clockwork Orange]

What are you a mute or something? Ok, now typing is said or speaking. The fact is I said you would be the first to comment on Bush. I said just watch. If you want to play these mind games, we are all supposed to say...err, type...He typed that CockWork Orange would be the first one to "type" about Bush? This incredible. Your going into said vs. typed now? It's commonly accepted that a comment made on a board can be accepted as "says or said". Your an idiot. The fact still remains I said, or "typed" that you would be the first one to COMMENT on Bush. Next time you "type" that "I said" something, you can remember that idiotic comment.

You have so completely lost the context of the threat it's just pathetic. Oh, now you want to bring up the administrator? Your the one out of line. You've totally made this personal with improper accusations, insults and assertions while I have systematically destroyed your argument. It actually bothers you that they didn't gas the subway doesn't it. Then you could blame Bush right? I'm so tired of watching the left beg for losing it's honestly getting so damn dissapointing.

You are ****ing stupid out loud, whatadrunk. The only thing you've destroyed since this thread started is two or three bottles of Mad Dog 20/20.

I brought up your owner, TJ, because of your nasty habit of crying to him like a little girl with a skinned knee when someone is mean to you. Oops, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned a little girl, probably got you aroused you disgusting old bastard.

Why don't you go post some more rim job pictures so that we can be rid of you for another 30 days.

[watermock]

They are not giving Homeland Defense money to farmers you dimwit. Where does it say that. They are just fighting over the Federal Cash Cow.

[watermock]

You are ****ing stupid out loud, whatadrunk. The only thing you've destroyed since this thread started is two or three bottles of Mad Dog 20/20.

I brought up your owner, TJ, because of your nasty habit of crying to him like a little girl with a skinned knee when someone is mean to you. Oops, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned a little girl, probably got you aroused you disgusting old bastard.

Why don't you go post some more rim job pictures so that we can be rid of you for another 30 days.

First comment, ranting of an idiot.

Second comment. Taco isn't my owner. Fact is I have never once complained to him about any comment actually. Your a liar. Maybe I will this one tho. I take that back, I have a couple times. This might be the third.

Third comment is just a homosexual insult. I didn't post that. I wish I knew who did.

Guess what moron, you didn't manage a single argument other than personal insults and assertions.

[TheDave]

but he does get points for mentioning MD 20/20

[Clockwork Orange]

First comment, ranting of an idiot.

Second comment. Taco isn't my owner. Fact is I have never once complained to him about any comment actually. Your a liar. Maybe I will this one tho.

Third comment is just a homosexual insult.

Guess what moron, you didn't manage a single argument other than personal insults and assertions.

If you're gonna go cry to your owner, make it worth your while, **********. **** you and your whole family. Tell him I said that to you, wad gobbler.

[Needa Pass Rush]

If you're gonna go cry to your owner, make it worth your while, **********. **** you and your whole family. Tell him I said that to you, wad gobbler.

Nice.

[gunns]

WTF? Ever see weather alerts? We are under yellow. NY has been under orange since 9/11. Is this beyond your comprehension?

Just the person these scare tactics are aimed at......and it seems to be working. Live in fear!

[gunns]

but he does get points for mentioning MD 20/20

Whoa, that brings back some awful memories. :spit:

[watermock]

Well we have really managed to take the whole thread to Mock bashing. Congratulations. This is honestly funny. Take your ball and bat and go back to the jerk room. Every post is increasingly an unwarranted, personal insult and totally off topic. Oh yes, I'm taking names, but I didn't really have to. You see, I'm not the angry one, you people are. Your angry that we killed Saddams evil twins and captured him. Your angry that we have liberated Afganistan. Your angry that productivity has increases despite outsoursing, your angry the uneployment is steady. Your angry that inflation hasn't exploded despite higher energy transportation costs. You morons couldn't read an economic barometer any better than a thermostat.

This is just cockroaches in the night. The issue was what again? OH I FORGOT, AL QUEDA CALLS OFF POISON ATTACK. Noone answered why they called that off did they. That kinds slipped thru the cracks while the thread was bing hijacked with diversions and personal insults basically unwarranted.

[watermock]

but he does get points for mentioning MD 20/20

What is that stuff? Is it good Dave? Looks like it gives a hell of a hangover.

[Clockwork Orange]

This thread is in the War Room now, drunky. You'd better run before LABF shows up and smacks you around some more. Isn't he the one that ran you out of here originally? :laugh:

[watermock]

Just the person these scare tactics are aimed at......and it seems to be working. Live in fear!

Bullshiat. It is nothing more than a facility to warn people of danger. It don't cost crap. This is another assertion. Oh Lord, color coding threat levels isn't new. Get a clue.

[watermock]

Of course it is. Now you can circle jerk. I called this an hour ago.

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah, yeah. Now get out of here before LABF takes your lunch money again. :laugh:

[Spider]

did they have it planned ? perhaps , but did they have the gas to pull it off ? I doubt it ....... I have plans on going to the Bahamas , doesnt mean it will happen ........

[baja]

Grab your bottle of Old Grandad, your copy of Barely Legal & your tin foil hat and go hide under the bed until they tell you it's safe to come out, you spineless, callow piece of ****.

Better yet, get in the closet. The surroundings will be much more familiar to you.

Don't forget the duct tape!!!

[watermock]

Well here you are, just like I predicted from your benefactor. Yeah, I decided to follow you in here you idiots.

I know why Baja is in Mexico. Planning any trips in the states there buddy?

]I don't come into this cesspoos but I need some amusement.

[Maximus]

Here we go, the thread is going even more off topic. Let me get this straight. According to the "fear mongers" NYC is a prime target. That very term would insinuate that they are being unreasonable correct? There is nothing about soybean farmers other than an idiotic slight. The idea of doing more with less seems to have been lost in the last 40 years.

The thread was off topic as soon as you made the false statement that we stopped a pending terrorist attack. The book clearly stated that Zawahiri called off the attack... It didn't say anything about the US Govt having so much intel that Al Quaida decided it wasn't prudent to attack NYC!

Second... If homeland security is so important why should anyone have to do more with less? NYC is a prime target and the funding should not be cut. So to answer your question, The Fear mongers are hypocrites. NYC is a prime target, but its not worth spending the money to protect so... Slash the budget by 40%There is nothing new about this... This administration has always sent mixed messages. I can't wait until November... Chuck Schumer and Pataki can start packing now!

Something needs to be done about Dubbya and the insane clown posse!

[watermock]

The thread was off topic as soon as you made the false statement that we stopped a pending terrorist attack. The book clearly stated that Zawahiri called off the attack... It didn't say anything about the US Govt having so much intel that Al Quaida decided it wasn't prudent to attack NYC!

Second... If homeland security is so important why should anyone have to do more with less? NYC is a prime target and the funding should not be cut. So to answer your question, The Fear mongers are hypocrites. NYC is a prime target, but its not worth spending the money to protect so... Slash the budget by 40%There is nothing new about this... This administration has always sent mixed messages. I can't wait until November... Chuck Schumer and Pataki can start packing now!

Something needs to be done about Dubbya and the insane clown posse!

Totally wrong. You don't have a clue. Bin Landen knew that another attack would bring even more hellfire. I never asserted that the US had the day or hour. Didn't you listen to what I said dimwit? I said he thought twice after the last attack. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. .

So you go from fear monger to not protecting.

I will give you a little lesson. It's called more with less and why Japanese are much better at delivering cars within one micron.

They got a word for it, but it means they take 10 percent of the workforce and push it. Then they do it again.

And again. This eventually shows the actual sticking ponts. Yeah, it's brutal, but Hundai has retooled. and Kia.

[watermock]

The thread was off topic as soon as you made the false statement that we stopped a pending terrorist attack. The book clearly stated that Zawahiri called off the attack... It didn't say anything about the US Govt having so much intel that Al Quaida decided it wasn't prudent to attack NYC!



I allready went thru this dimwit. He is pinned down and on the run. What part of this don't you understand? He's thecoward right now. Just watch. I know damn well he's hiding in a Mosque.

[Blueflame]

"Pinned down and on the run" don't mean much if the job (of capturing him and bringing him to justice) isn't completed. Fact is, nothing much happened to Bin Laden after 9/11... he's free as a bird and still sending threatening tapes from time to time and I, for one, am very outraged about that fact.

[watermock]

"Pinned down and on the run" don't mean much if the job (of capturing him and bringing him to justice) isn't completed. Fact is, nothing much happened to Bin Laden after 9/11... he's free as a bird and still sending threatening tapes from time to time and I, for one, am very outraged about that fact.

Really. "Free as a bird" you say. He has sent one in the last 18 months.

We killed the bastard who was sawing off heads and taping it. What part of this don't you understand.

We have pushed 89% into either hiding or simply killing their own people. Just watch what happens next. You don't have a clue.

[Blueflame]

Really. "Free as a bird" you say. He has sent one in the last 18 months.

We killed the bastard who was sawing off heads and taping it. What part of this don't you understand.

We have pushed 89% into either hiding or simply killing their own people. Just watch what happens next. You don't have a clue.

Whatever, Mock. Bin Laden is still unpunished and unrepentant.

[watermock]

He's a figurehead. He can'tmove money, He can't do crap. He was neutralized 4 years ago.

We will get a bead on him eventually.

Actually the opposite is true. He is in hiding. I allready explained this.

[Blueflame]

He's a figurehead. He can'tmove money, He can't do crap. He was neutralized 4 years ago.

We will get a bead on him eventually.

Actually the opposite is true. He is in hiding. I allready explained this.

"Neutralized" isn't enough, Mock. "Eventually"? ??? We should have finished the job before taking off on a tangent into Iraq. He's already lived more than four and a half years longer than his Sept. 11 victims....

[watermock]

nothing much happened to Bin Laden after 9/11...

Really? That's pretty amusing.

[BroncoBuff]

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8129/retarded8zn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Nuggets4]

You are ****ing stupid out loud, whatadrunk. The only thing you've destroyed since this thread started is two or three bottles of Mad Dog 20/20.

I brought up your owner, TJ, because of your nasty habit of crying to him like a little girl with a skinned knee when someone is mean to you. Oops, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned a little girl, probably got you aroused you disgusting old bastard.

Why don't you go post some more rim job pictures so that we can be rid of you for another 30 days.

I just think this needs to be posted again.

[watermock]

"Pinned down and on the run" don't mean much if the job (of capturing him and bringing him to justice) isn't completed. Fact is, nothing much happened to Bin Laden after 9/11... he's free as a bird and still sending threatening tapes from time to time and I, for one, am very outraged about that fact.

And we are now supposed to go into thugland Kashmire to track him down? It's classic ignorance. The British cowared down and split India into three parts to hopefully pacify the situation. Did it work? There were two Pakistans and the eastern Pakistan eventually became the wonderful nation of Bangaladesh. You know, the country we are constantly sending aid to?

"Pinned down and on the run" is pretty self explanitory. I explained in 2002 that I was worried about an insurgency. I didn't anticipate Al Queda chewing off it's own leg to spite itself in a desperate attempt to create a civil war. Of course, the thread has now degenerated into name calling, and general policy and become completely berefret of the original topic, which is that Al Queda was too scared to carry out another attack on US soil at this time. This is so reminiscent of when "Hacksaw Zaquarwi" was taken out, or when Udai and Kusai the evil twins were taken out. Let me remind you where we found the great President of Iraq. IN A RATHOLE. So when I say "Pinned down and on the run", maybe you can get at least a marginal idea what I mean.

[watermock]

Here is what the former Chief aide to Clinton said in 2004, BTW, Morris hates Clinton now. Morris is a political strategist in case noone has heard of him.

http://caglecartoons.com/previewColumn.asp?columnID=%7BF624B4C7-510F-42F6-987A-93DEB5073A05%7D

Dick Morris, November 1, 2004

http://caglecartoons.com/images/MorrisMug.jpg
Missing Bin Laden

By Dick Morris

When John Kerry tries to spin the bin Laden tape to his own advantage, he is fond of saying that the ghoul's message just serves to indicate that he is still around because Bush failed to get him "when he was surrounded" in Tora Bora.

Kerry's attack misses the fundamental point: If Osama bin Laden, who once sent hijacked airplanes into buildings, has been reduced to mailing tapes to TV stations instead, it means that his capacity for terrorism is being effectively neutralized as he hops from cave to cave in Pakistan.

And we need to understand who is to blame for failing to get bin Laden — for America blew at least three opportunities during the 1990s, when he was there for all to see in Afghanistan. And the reasons why we failed don't speak well of a potential Kerry administration.

Our first shot at bin Laden came in Feb. 13, 1998, when President Bill Clinton's aides scuttled a CIA plot that had been eight months in the planning to kidnap Osama, using local Afghan tribesmen and to ferry him to the United States to stand trial. Why did they torpedo the mission? Because they worried that bin Laden might be killed!

To quote the 9/11 Commission report: They worried that "the purpose . . . of the operation would be subject to unavoidable misinterpretation and misrepresentation — and probably recriminations — in the event that bin Laden, despite our best intentions and efforts, did not survive." The kidnapping was blocked because the Clinton people worried that it might be perceived as "an assassination."

The second chance came when we actually did launch cruise missiles to kill bin Laden on Aug. 20, 1998. (Apparently, if he died in an air strike that would not be an assassination). Clinton ordered the hit, but instructed that the Pakistani Army Chief of Staff be briefed right before the missiles overflew his air space so he would not think them to be Indian and order retaliation. Word leaked from Pakistan to bin Laden, who escaped right before the missiles hit.

The final missed opportunity came in May, 1999 when the CIA reported that bin Laden would be in Kandahar, Afghanistan for five days. The 9/11 Commission reported: "If this intelligence was not 'actionable,' working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence . . . could meet that standard."

One senior official told the commission, "It was in our strike zone . . . a fat pitch . . . a home run." But still Clinton's folks — the same guys on whom Kerry would rely if elected — said no. Why? Because we had just bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade by mistake and they were worried about being accused of being trigger happy. (Officials were also worried that Republicans would echo the charges they made — totally irresponsibly and inaccurately — about the August 1998 strike and say Clinton was "wagging the dog.")

When one contemplates who would wage the more determined War on Terror, we must remember the tentative and hesitant way the Clinton people waged it — always bowing to global public opinion and political concerns rather than taking forthright and bold action.

Under Bush, bin Laden has been reduced to sending in impotent tapes and wild threats. Under Kerry, the same geniuses that let him escape three times will be back in charge running things.

Dick Morris was an adviser to Bill Clinton for 20 years. Look for Dick’s new book “Because He Could” about Bill Clinton. Copyright 2004 Dick Morris, All Rights Reserved. Distributed by Cagle Cartoons, Inc. www.caglecartoons.com Call Cari Dawson Bartley at (800) 696 7561 or e-mail: cari@cagle.com email for Dick Morris is dmredding@aol.com

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[Bronco_Beerslug]

Here is what the former Chief aide to Clinton said in 2004, BTW, Morris hates Clinton now. Morris is a political strategist in case noone has heard of him.

You'd do well to research sh*t before you post it in here because you'll be called on it if you don't.

Want to try again on who and what Morris's job was with Clinton and why he was fired?

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Morris did not have a role in Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign

Morris is best known for managing Bill Clinton's successful 1996 bid for re-election to the office of President of the United States. His tenure on that campaign was cut short two months before the election, when it was revealed that he had had an extramarital affair with a prostitute and allowed her to listen to conversations with the President. Following the scandal, Morris turned his focus to media commentary. He now writes a weekly column for the New York Post and appears regularly on the Fox News Channel.
On August 29, 1996, Morris resigned from the Clinton campaign after reports surfaced that he had been involved in an extramarital affair with a prostitute named Sherry Rowlands. A tabloid newspaper had obtained and published a set of photographs of Morris and Rowlands on a Washington, D.C., hotel balcony. Accompanying the photo layout was Rowlands' story of the casual affair, including the revelation that Morris's favorite sexual fetish was toe-sucking [1]. The article also revealed that Morris had allowed Rowlands to listen in on phone calls with the President, and had given her a copy of a campaign speech before it was delivered.
http://tinyurl.com/hkzmk

[watermock]

First, He got fired in 1996. He DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN! Your pathetic. He had been an advisor to Clinton well before that.

****ing excuse me you moron.

Morris first worked with Bill and Hillary Clinton during Bill Clinton's successful 1978 bid for Governor of Arkansas. Though he did not work on Bill Clinton's unsuccessful re-election campaign in 1980, Morris helped him win back the governor's office in 1982 and continued to work with him in subsequent gubernatorial campaigns. Morris did not have a role in Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign, which instead was headed by James Carville, George Stephanopoulos, and Paul Begala. After the 1994 mid-term election where Republicans took control of both houses of Congress and gained considerable power in the states, Clinton once again sought Morris' help to prepare for the 1996 presidential election. It was Morris who proposed a strategy of "triangulation," where Bill Clinton would appeal to a diverse group of voters by distancing himself from both the Democratic and Republican parties. Many perceived this as a move to the center of the political spectrum, and it disappointed some people who had hoped Clinton would pursue a more progressive policy.

In his 1997 book Behind the Oval Office, Morris wrote that, following an argument in the Arkansas Governor's Mansion, Morris strode towards the exit and was tackled by Bill Clinton. In 2003, Morris further stated that Bill Clinton cocked his arm back to throw a punch, but Hillary Clinton pulled her husband off Morris. In both versions of the story, she consoled Morris and apologized to him, stating that Bill only behaved such with those he cared for most. According to Morris, she did this to keep him quiet about the incident. He says the incident was the reason for denying Bill Clinton's request to work on the '92 campaign; Clinton's side of the story is not known.

[Paladin]

It was the toe sucking that set Mock off....

[gunns]

Bullshiat. It is nothing more than a facility to warn people of danger. It don't cost crap. This is another assertion. Oh Lord, color coding threat levels isn't new. Get a clue.

I'm not talking about the color coding. I'm talking about "the flavor of the week major threat to us".

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

What happened to the days that they'd just raise the threat level to orange or red or whatever the **** colors that were supposed to scare us?

The color-coded alert thing magically disappeared right after the '04 "election."

I guess the junta figured it didn't need that particular piece of psy-ops anymore.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You are ****ing stupid out loud, whatadrunk. The only thing you've destroyed since this thread started is two or three bottles of Mad Dog 20/20.

I brought up your owner, TJ, because of your nasty habit of crying to him like a little girl with a skinned knee when someone is mean to you. Oops, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned a little girl, probably got you aroused you disgusting old bastard.

Why don't you go post some more rim job pictures so that we can be rid of you for another 30 days.

LOL ^5

The Mock Diet:

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/2530/wines25zw.jpg

[watermock]

The color-coded alert thing magically disappeared right after the '04 "election."

I guess the junta figured it didn't need that particular piece of psy-ops anymore.

No it didn't dissaperar you moron. First we have someone talling us it's worthless, than LABF says it doesn't even exist. Good God. The country is under yellow, NY is under Orange. I allready pointed that out.

[watermock]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
You are ****ing stupid out loud, whatadrunk. The only thing you've destroyed since this thread started is two or three bottles of Mad Dog 20/20.

I brought up your owner, TJ, because of your nasty habit of crying to him like a little girl with a skinned knee when someone is mean to you. Oops, I guess I shouldn't have mentioned a little girl, probably got you aroused you disgusting old bastard.

Why don't you go post some more rim job pictures so that we can be rid of you for another 30 days.

Well, that was on topic. Personal insults, accusations and assertions. I don't "cry" to anyone. The fact is he runs the site, and I prefer to stay on the site despite repeated attempts to ban me by various members.

I have allready won this argument, and it never should of even been moved here.

First I said Bush would be blamed.

Second, I said the thread would be moved.

Both happened.

Now that your in the cesspool, flame away. I can see all the posts that are congratulating the fact that a gass bombing was avoided. Kudos are just aboundant here aren't the. STFU.

[Clockwork Orange]

Well, that was on topic. Personal insults, accusations and assertions. I don't "cry" to anyone. The fact is he runs the site, and I prefer to stay on the site despite repeated attempts to ban me by various members.

I have allready won this argument, and it never should of even been moved here.

First I said Bush would be blamed.

Second, I said the thread would be moved.

Both happened.

Now that your in the cesspool, flame away. I can see all the posts that are congratulating the fact that a gass bombing was avoided. Kudos are just aboundant here aren't the. STFU.

I noticed that you disappeared when LABF was here. I can't tell who scares you more, the terrorists or him. :laugh:

Being a shivering biatch is no way to go through life, but then neither is being a drunk, racist, sexist, pervert and that hasn't stopped you. I'll just add coward to that list from now on.

I know for a fact that you've cried like a pussy to TJ over less than what I've said to you in this thread, asshole, so spare me your bull****.

And for the record, you've never won an argument in all the years that you've been here. Your name is a punchline, your posts are the incoherent ramblings of a village idiot and the only reason you're allowed to exist on this board is because TJ knows that you'd probably put both barrels of a shotgun in your mouth if you didn't have this board to compensate for the fact that you have no real life.

You're ****ing clown shoes.

[Blueflame]

Really? That's pretty amusing.

What's "amusing" about letting the guy who was responsible for 9/11 go unpunished? ???

Who cares how frequently he sends new taped threats to the US? He is still sending threats, isn't he? So he's not "neutralized", he's not punished, he's not sorry, and he'd jump at the opportunity to do it again. And you call that "amusing".... just wow.

[Blueflame]

And we are now supposed to go into thugland Kashmire to track him down? It's classic ignorance. The British cowared down and split India into three parts to hopefully pacify the situation. Did it work? There were two Pakistans and the eastern Pakistan eventually became the wonderful nation of Bangaladesh. You know, the country we are constantly sending aid to?

"Pinned down and on the run" is pretty self explanitory. I explained in 2002 that I was worried about an insurgency. I didn't anticipate Al Queda chewing off it's own leg to spite itself in a desperate attempt to create a civil war. Of course, the thread has now degenerated into name calling, and general policy and become completely berefret of the original topic, which is that Al Queda was too scared to carry out another attack on US soil at this time. This is so reminiscent of when "Hacksaw Zaquarwi" was taken out, or when Udai and Kusai the evil twins were taken out. Let me remind you where we found the great President of Iraq. IN A RATHOLE. So when I say "Pinned down and on the run", maybe you can get at least a marginal idea what I mean.

If we know for a fact he's in "thugland Kashmire" then you're dang well right, we should go in there to get him.

There is a big difference between "pinned down and on the run" and "brought to justice". I want to see OBL brought to justice. I think that task should have been a priority over deposing Saddam.

Dick Morris

Who cares what Dick Morris thinks? I don't.

[watermock]

I noticed that you disappeared when LABF was here. I can't tell who scares you more, the terrorists or him. :laugh:

Being a shivering biatch is no way to go through life, but then neither is being a drunk, racist, sexist, pervert and that hasn't stopped you. I'll just add coward to that list from now on.

I know for a fact that you've cried like a p***Y to TJ over less than what I've said to you in this thread, a-hole, so spare me your bull****.

And for the record, you've never won an argument in all the years that you've been here. Your name is a punchline, your posts are the incoherent ramblings of a village idiot and the only reason you're allowed to exist on this board is because TJ knows that you'd probably put both barrels of a shotgun in your mouth if you didn't have this board to compensate for the fact that you have no real life.

You're ****ing clown shoes.

Look you shrinking violet, I can take any argument on if it's sinceire I haven't run away from anyting, you just get lonely in this circle jerk.

Two paragraphs of personal insults to get your mojo up. Brave Boy I say. I have won most of my arguments actually. I'm the village idiot when Bang, Wabbit, Meck77 and even Taco can support me. Jee whizzinator. Go figure.

Well, you closed with another insult and didn't even manage the mental fortiude to even make a comment. Congratulations. STFU and sit in the corner dimwit.

LABF is your protector? Ha! That's fine.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I noticed that you disappeared when LABF was here. I can't tell who scares you more, the terrorists or him. :laugh:

Being a shivering biatch is no way to go through life, but then neither is being a drunk, racist, sexist, pervert and that hasn't stopped you. I'll just add coward to that list from now on.

I know for a fact that you've cried like a p***Y to TJ over less than what I've said to you in this thread, a-hole, so spare me your bull****.

And for the record, you've never won an argument in all the years that you've been here. Your name is a punchline, your posts are the incoherent ramblings of a village idiot and the only reason you're allowed to exist on this board is because TJ knows that you'd probably put both barrels of a shotgun in your mouth if you didn't have this board to compensate for the fact that you have no real life.

You're ****ing clown shoes.

:giggle: :thumbs:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8697/36893112owned59dj.jpg

[defenseman]

How can this be proven? Some supposed "CIA mole?" Where was this mole during 9/11?

And all of this is coming out in some book? HA!

You got to give the government a lot of leeway to believe half the cockamany stories they throw at us.


If you haven't figured it out yet, not everyone who is a citizen of this country has a "need to know". Without the "need to know", you WILL NOT be privvy to many things I'm sure you would find quite interesting, but for security reasons, you'll never know what they are, until it's time to release it, or you'll never find out at all. that's just the way it is, and I might add, this will NEVER CHANGE, nor should it...dman

[defenseman]

Look you shrinking violet, I can take any argument on if it's sinceire I haven't run away from anyting, you just get lonely in this circle jerk.

Two paragraphs of personal insults to get your mojo up. Brave Boy I say. I have won most of my arguments actually. I'm the village idiot when Bang, Wabbit, Meck77 and even Taco can support me. Jee whizzinator. Go figure.

Well, you closed with another insult and didn't even manage the mental fortiude to even make a comment. Congratulations. STFU and sit in the corner dimwit.

LABF is your protector? Ha! That's fine.

LOL......when the bullets start flying, LABF will be ducking behind you Clockwork, I gaurantee it.....:rofl: ...dman

[Old Dude]

I know this might be a lost cause, but I read part of the excerpt in Time magazine over lunch, and it's a heck of a story.

I haven't finished it yet, but there are a number of interesting revelations.

First is the revelation that the CIA has had contact, for some time, with an individual planted deep within Al-Q. He has provided generally accurate information. At the same time, no one is sure what the guy's real motive is, and they do not completely trust him.

Second is that the story really underscores what 9/11 was all about from Al-Q's standpoint. Major elements of Al-Q have always had Saudi Arabia as their primary target. The notion has been to overthrow the existing Saudi government and replace it with themselves, as the first step in the creation of a pan-Islamic Caliphate. One of the reasons that they attacked the US in the first place was to create a rift between the US and the Saudis in order to make the Saudis more vulnerable to an internal insurrection. That's the real reason that Bin Laden was so POd about American forces being stationed there post gulf-war I. It's no coincidence that Al-Q planners made sure the majority of the 9/11 hijackers were either Saudi, or using Saudi passports & names.

The story strongly suggests that the gas attack was called off, not necessarily for fear of detection, or because it wouldn't do enough damage, or because it was too hard to pull off, but perhaps because Al-Q wanted to focus more directly on attacks inside Saudi Arabia.

There appears to be a rift in Al-Q itself concerning its own strategy. And it is not a recent one.

At the same time, it's pretty scary to think that Al-Q, more than three years ago, apparently believed it had all the men and means necessary to launch the gas attack in question, and it's not clear anything has changed.

[defenseman]

I know this might be a lost cause, but I read part of the excerpt in Time magazine over lunch, and it's a heck of a story.

I haven't finished it yet, but there are a number of interesting revelations.

First is the revelation that the CIA has had contact, for some time, with an individual planted deep within Al-Q. He has provided generally accurate information. At the same time, no one is sure what the guy's real motive is, and they do not completely trust him.

Second is that the story really underscores what 9/11 was all about from Al-Q's standpoint. Major elements of Al-Q have always had Saudi Arabia as their primary target. The notion has been to overthrow the existing Saudi government and replace it with themselves, as the first step in the creation of a pan-Islamic Caliphate. One of the reasons that they attacked the US in the first place was to create a rift between the US and the Saudis in order to make the Saudis more vulnerable to an internal insurrection. That's the real reason that Bin Laden was so POd about American forces being stationed there post gulf-war I. It's no coincidence that Al-Q planners made sure the majority of the 9/11 hijackers were either Saudi, or using Saudi passports & names.

The story strongly suggests that the gas attack was called off, not necessarily for fear of detection, or because it wouldn't do enough damage, or because it was too hard to pull off, but perhaps because Al-Q wanted to focus more directly on attacks inside Saudi Arabia.

There appears to be a rift in Al-Q itself concerning its own strategy. And it is not a recent one.

At the same time, it's pretty scary to think that Al-Q, more than three years ago, apparently believed it had all the men and means necessary to launch the gas attack in question, and it's not clear anything has changed.

Interesting scenario. However, don't think think they have the hudzbah to take out the saudii's. If they ever were to complete such a task, you haven't seen war till that happens. It would be a very large incursion with lots and lots of military. Don't think though, they would ever pull it off...dman

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I know this might be a lost cause, but I read part of the excerpt in Time magazine over lunch, and it's a heck of a story.

I haven't finished it yet, but there are a number of interesting revelations.

First is the revelation that the CIA has had contact, for some time, with an individual planted deep within Al-Q. He has provided generally accurate information. At the same time, no one is sure what the guy's real motive is, and they do not completely trust him.

Second is that the story really underscores what 9/11 was all about from Al-Q's standpoint. Major elements of Al-Q have always had Saudi Arabia as their primary target. The notion has been to overthrow the existing Saudi government and replace it with themselves, as the first step in the creation of a pan-Islamic Caliphate. One of the reasons that they attacked the US in the first place was to create a rift between the US and the Saudis in order to make the Saudis more vulnerable to an internal insurrection. That's the real reason that Bin Laden was so POd about American forces being stationed there post gulf-war I. It's no coincidence that Al-Q planners made sure the majority of the 9/11 hijackers were either Saudi, or using Saudi passports & names.

The story strongly suggests that the gas attack was called off, not necessarily for fear of detection, or because it wouldn't do enough damage, or because it was too hard to pull off, but perhaps because Al-Q wanted to focus more directly on attacks inside Saudi Arabia.

There appears to be a rift in Al-Q itself concerning its own strategy. And it is not a recent one.

At the same time, it's pretty scary to think that Al-Q, more than three years ago, apparently believed it had all the men and means necessary to launch the gas attack in question, and it's not clear anything has changed.

The first intelligent post on this thread. Wow - someone read the article before starting the name calling.

[Old Dude]

Interesting scenario. However, don't think think they have the hudzbah to take out the saudii's. If they ever were to complete such a task, you haven't seen war till that happens. It would be a very large incursion with lots and lots of military. Don't think though, they would ever pull it off...dman

It seems to me that gaining control of Saudi Arabia would be a much more realistic objective than destroying the U.S.

After all, they already have tens of thousands - maybe hundreds of thousands of poor, uneducated, fundamentalist sympathizers, right there - - or within a stone's throw.

[youcandoit1687]

The first intelligent post on this thread. Wow - someone read the article before starting the name calling.


what a horrible idea to actually read the article you *&^*^&@$ idiot. the nerve of people to come on here with actual knowledge

[defenseman]

It seems to me that gaining control of Saudi Arabia would be a much more realistic objective than destroying the U.S.

After all, they already have tens of thousands - maybe hundreds of thousands of poor, uneducated, fundamentalist sympathizers, right there - - or within a stone's throw.

Realistic vs. the US of A? Yes. Suicide? Absolutely...I'll say it again, us and many others would jump into that fray in a nano second to ensure Al Qaeda did not get control of saudi arabia. If entrenched, the kind of economic and infrastructural havoc they could employ is absolutely dasterdly. In short, not happenin, and if attempted, pretty damn close to WW III...dman

[Old Dude]

what a horrible idea to actually read the article you *&^*^&@$ idiot. the nerve of people to come on here with actual knowledge

Well, I finished the excerpt and it sounds like a good book.

Really, the thrust of it isn't pro-Bush or anti-Bush.

The thrust of it is that the US is not getting full cooperation from places like Saudi Arabia, for the simple reason that they only trust us to a point. And we don't share all of our info with them, for exactly the same reason.

As a result, there have been some missed opportunities. For example, when Saudis had the local high Al-Q muckety-muck cornered, they just killed him. More importantly, they didn't conduct any kind of follow-up investigation to try to track down his hideout, or to secure his papers, effects, computer records, etc.

[defenseman]

Well, I finished the excerpt and it sounds like a good book.

Really, the thrust of it isn't pro-Bush or anti-Bush.

The thrust of it is that the US is not getting full cooperation from places like Saudi Arabia, for the simple reason that they only trust us to a point. And we don't share all of our info with them, for exactly the same reason.

As a result, there have been some missed opportunities. For example, when Saudis had the local high Al-Q muckety-muck cornered, they just killed him. More importantly, they didn't conduct any kind of follow-up investigation to try to track down his hideout, or to secure his papers, effects, computer records, etc.

this has been going on a long time now, not going to change anytime soon..dman

UNLESS, al qaeda makes a move for the saudi's...

[Old Dude]

this has been going on a long time now, not going to change anytime soon..dman

UNLESS, al qaeda makes a move for the saudi's...

Well, it looks to me like this has been their objective since 8:00, Monday Morning, Day 1.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL......when the bullets start flying, LABF will be ducking behind you Clockwork, I gaurantee it.....:rofl: ...dman

:oyvey:

You obviously haven't been here very long.