Prince taking a no nonsnese approach

[Master___Pain]

KSU leading rusher suspended for opener

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5688478

MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP) - Thomas Clayton, Kansas State's leading rusher last year, has been suspended for one game following a misdemeanor battery conviction and will miss the Sept. 2 season opener against Illinois State, the school announced Monday.

Clayton, who will be a senior, was convicted Friday stemming from an incident last September in which he struck a university parking services employee with his car.

Clayton, who will be sentenced July 10, could face up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Clayton rushed for 637 yards on 137 carries last season.

Synder might have pulled his schollie after the season was over.

[Crushaholic]

Prince IS bringing a new attitude to K-State. We'll see how well that works out. He's also ditching the "soft schedule" approach that Snyder believed in. We already have a deal in place to play Miami in 6 years and Prince is trying to get a deal done with UCLA...

[Master___Pain]

Prince IS bringing a new attitude to K-State. We'll see how well that works out. He's also ditching the "soft schedule" approach that Snyder believed in. We already have a deal in place to play Miami in 6 years and Prince is trying to get a deal done with UCLA...

That will get you guys some respect too. Over the Big 12 OOC schedule is a joke. CU has thier first 1-AA team ever this season...but still plays CSU, ASU and @ UGA. So if there was ever a year for a warm up patsie, this is it.

[Pezman]

ROFL! Ha! Hilarious!

http://jonathantu.wordpress.com/2006/06/15/kansas-state-set-to-play-1988-kansas-state-squad-in-09-10/


Kansas State set to play 1988 Kansas State squad in ‘09, ‘10
June 15th, 2006

Manhattan, Kansas - The Ron Prince era has yet to officially begin, but that hasn't cooled off the expectations of Kansas State football fans. Promising "a return to form", Prince has ignited hope in the Wildcat fan base by agreeing to a home and home series with the 1988 Kansas State Wildcats football team to be set in 2009 and 2010. Both games will be played in Manhattan, but each team will only be allowed to choose "heads" once during the opening coin flips.

Prince has stated that he believes strongly in cupcakes, cupcakage and cupcake tradition - the question now is, can he also make a young Wildcats team believe?

"We are excited to get back to our roots. [Recently retired Kansas State head coach] Bill Snyder built this program on a philosophy of solid football and playing teams that were just shy of being declared lepers. By signing this deal we feel we have honored the memory of one of college football's greatest pioneers in cupcakery. Here's to you, Bill," Kansas State athletic director Tim Weiser said.

From 1989 to 2005, Snyder turned around one of college football's most moribund and mediocre programs by concentrating on junior college recruiting, sound fundamentals and a voracious eye for scheduling other moribund and mediocre programs. The Wildcats played in eleven straight bowl games during Snyder's final years, compiling an impressive record against non-Big 12 opponents like Indiana State, Idaho State, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Western Illinois, Northern Illinois, Montana, Temple, Utah State, UNLV, Western Kentucky, Louisiana-Lafayette, Rice, Northern Iowa, North Texas, Cincinnati, Akron, Ohio, Bowling Green, Louisiana-Monroe, UTEP, Louisiana Tech, Ball State, Eastern Illinois, Troy State, McNeese State, Massachusetts, Marshall, Florida International, Sister Mary's School for the Blind Yet Technically Gifted, and Sister Mary's School for the Blind Yet Technically Gifted State.

"The Wildcats have a proud history of playing anyone with slightly more than a pulse but less than what could be characterized as a healthy heart rate," Prince said.

"We are excited to continue that tradition of scheduling like there's no tomorrow, 'tomorrow' being the operative word for 'national governing body designed in part to make sure football programs don't play all-girl Catholic schools'. We always knew we could do it, but this just proves that our hearts and our heads are in the right place," the first year coach continued.

"A place devoid of traditional football powers, that is, and, preferably, completely lacking in BCS teams," Prince added.

The 1988 Wildcats are widely considered one of the worst college football teams ever, having gone 0-11 in the midst of a twenty game losing streak that didn't end until the fourth game of Snyder's first year in Manhattan after the iconic Kansas State coach replaced Stan Parrish (2-30-1 in three years). They were outscored 448 to 171, inviting comparisons to the 1981 Northwestern Wildcats (0-11), the 1985 Columbia Lions (0-10), the 1991 Prairie View Panthers (0-11), the 1997 Rutgers Scarlet Knights (0-11), the 2000 Duke Blue Devils (0-11) and the 2001 Houston Cougars (0-11) as the sorriest accumulation of college football non-talent of all time.

"We were in talks with both '91 Prairie View and '00 Duke but, in the end, we felt that this was the only choice anyone would be satisfied with. It has a nice, circuitous feeling to it, like coming back home again. I mean, we are literally going to be playing the worst team in the history of our traditionally awful program. Not only do we get to complete the historic circle, as it were, but we're pretty much guaranteed a win. Frankly, I'm kind of surprised Bill didn't do this when he was still coach," Weiser said.

Though both teams were still unsure whether the actual 1988 Kansas State team or the older version of that squad would play, Weiser was "confident" that the decision would be announced soon.

"We're going to explore all the avenues on that one. To the average college football fan it'd seem pretty obvious that playing the older version of the '88 squad would be an easier win. After all, they've aged eighteen years since that horrible season and it's even possible some of them have died already," Weiser noted.

"Kansas State football is about more than that, though. We like to take our time and really figure out all the factors in trying to find out who would be the easiest out of conference opponent out there. If you've ever watched a nature program there's always this point where you can tell the crocodile or lion or whatever has settled on the youngest, slowest wildebeest in sight. By 2009 those God-awful former Wildcat footballers will be that much older and we'll have a pretty good gauge as to whether they're cagier with age or just more arthritic. Think of this as stalking our prey," Weiser said.

Both Weiser and Prince would not comment on rumors of a possible home and home with the French military.
Posted by jonathantu

[Crushaholic]

Pez, you bastard...ROFL!

I remember those awful teams of the mid-to-late '80s. It would been humorous if it wasn't so sad. Delay of game penalties were commonplace because we had NO idea what we were doing...:crazy:

[BroncoBuff]

That will get you guys some respect too. Over the Big 12 OOC schedule is a joke. CU has thier first 1-AA team ever this season...but still plays CSU, ASU and @ UGA. So if there was ever a year for a warm up patsie, this is it.
Word!

Gotta hand it to the Golden Buffaloes ... they consistently play OOC schedules that are tough as NAILS ...

Over time, they play the toughset schedules anywhere. Dating from the early 70s, they've played


home-and-homes with a who's who of colege football elite including:Washington (4 or 5 games)
Texas (2 or 3 times before the Big XII)
UCLA (5 or 6 games)
Stanford
Notre Dame (83 and 84, plus 2 Orange Bowls and a Fiesta)
Illinois
LSU (5 or 6 games)
Penn State
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Michigan State
Arizona
Miami (6 or 7 games in 30 years ... they're in Boulder in 08 or 09)
Washington State
Wisconsin
Michigan
Georgia (just added - starts this year)
Iowa
Ohio State (71, 85, 86 ... plus the 78 Orange Bowl)
Florida State (current - they're in Boulder in 2007)
Minnesota
Arizona State (starts this year)
North Carolina (starts in 2 years)




Even in the glorious undefeated 11-0 season of 1989 .... Colorado played 3 Top 20 teams OOC ... TEXAS, WASHINGTON and ILLINOIS.

I dare you ... show me a team with more balls than that.


http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=2006 (go forward and back, year by year)

[Crushaholic]

Word!

Gotta hand it to the Golden Buffaloes ... they consistently play OOC schedules that are tough as NAILS ...

Over time, they play the toughset schedules anywhere. Dating from the early 70s, they've played


home-and-homes with a who's who of colege football elite including:Washington (4 or 5 games)
Texas (2 or 3 times before the Big XII)
UCLA (5 or 6 games)
Stanford
Notre Dame (83 and 84, plus 2 Orange Bowls and a Fiesta)
Illinois
LSU (5 or 6 games)
Penn State
Oregon
Oregon State
Southern Cal
Michigan State
Arizona
Miami (6 or 7 games in 30 years ... they're in Boulder in 08 or 09)
Washington State
Wisconsin
Michigan
Georgia (just added - starts this year)
Iowa
Ohio State (71, 85, 86 ... plus the 78 Orange Bowl)
Florida State (current - they're in Boulder in 2007)
Minnesota
Arizona State (starts this year)
North Carolina (starts in 2 years)




Even in the glorious undefeated 11-0 season of 1989 .... Colorado played 3 Top 20 teams OOC ... TEXAS, WASHINGTON and ILLINOIS.

I dare you ... show me a team with more balls than that.


http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=2006 (go forward and back, year by year)

I agree 100%. Colorado HAS played a difficult schedule in year's past. That's why I can respect the K-State scheduling criticism from a CU fan. However, if a NEBRASKA fan did the same...well...Ha!

[Breck Bronc]

Gotta hand it to the Golden Buffaloes ... they consistently play OOC schedules that are tough as NAILS ...

Over time, they play the toughset schedules anywhere. I dare you ... show me a team with more balls than that.
Colorado has certainly been one of the few big football schools in the country to consistently play a tough out of conference schedule. But your dare is pretty easy to counter; the University of Miami helped build its program in the late-'70's and '80's by playing every top team they could (mostly on the road). The Hurricanes still try and play a tough OOC schedule, but it's gotten hard over the years to have teams accept a home and home series with a game in the Orange Bowl.

Teams Miami has played OOC in the same time frame you listed for CU:

Notre Dame - tons of classic games in the Eighties until the Domers decided they didn't want to play UM anymore

Florida State - has turned into a conference foe; some of the best college games of all-time have been played between the Canes and Noles

Florida - the Gators haven't beaten Miami in over 20 years and usually refuse to play the Hurricanes anymore

Oklahoma - the Sooners only lost 3 out of 36 games in 1985, 1986 and 1987 -- all of them to Miami, one of my favorite Hurricane stats. These two teams will finally get together again in 2007 and 2009

Penn State - A 1979 Jim Kelly-led upset of PSU in State College is considered to be the start of Miami's college football dominance

Michigan - Miami pulled off one of the greatest comebacks in college football history in Ann Arbor in 1988; the Wolverines never returned to Miami to complete a home and home

LSU - in 1988 LSU won the SEC and still lost 44-3 to Miami in Baton Rouge

UCLA - Miami split a home and home with the Bruins in 1995 and 1998

Washington - Back when the Huskies were good they ended Miami's NCAA record 58-game home winning streak in 1994 and cost Miami a national title in 2000 by beating the Canes in Seattle. We got a little payback in 2001 by beating the then 14th ranked Huskies 65-7 at the Orange Bowl.

Arizona - Back when they had the Desert Swarm defense they gave Miami all they could handle in a home and home in 1991 and 1992.

Tennessee - Split a home and home with the Canes in 2002 and 2003 (the Vols would have been swept if not for Brock Berlin's incompetence in '03)

Arkansas - Steve Atwater and the Razorbacks were crushed 51-7 at home in 1987 and then almost pulled off an upset at the Orange Bowl the next season

Michigan State - A pretty good 1989 Spartan team lost to Miami and MSU never returned to play in the Orange Bowl

Colorado - No college football fan will forget the brawl and classic game between the Canes and Buffs at Folsom in 1993. I was there and am glad I was. The long delayed return to Miami didn't go so well for CU last year (save for Mason Crosby's great kick at sea level)

Texas - another team that has never returned to play Miami in South Florida after playing the Canes at home in Austin in 1981. Although it was a bowl game, Miami still humiliated Texas 46-3 in the 1991 Cotton Bowl played, obviously, in Texas

South Carolina - Miami swept a home and home with the Gamecocks in '86 & '87

Ohio State - the Buckeyes have never played Miami in the Orange Bowl, but the two teams did play in the 1999 Kickoff Classic with Miami winning. OSU and Miami will play a home and home in 2010 and 2011, which should be fun

Auburn - Like the Buckeyes, Auburn played Miami in the 1984 Kickoff Classic. The Bo Jackson-led Tigers lost to the defending national champion Hurricanes

Arizona State - The Sun Devils played a home and home with Miami in 1994 and 1997. Miami blew out ASU in Tempe in '94 and then lost in a shocker (at the time) to Jake Plummer and a very good Sun Devil team at the Orange Bowl in '97

Brigham Young - Miami spanked the Cougars at home in 1988 and then lost in one of the bigger upsets of the '90's to BYU at Provo in the 1990 season opener

Houston - The 1991 Cougars were supposed to be a national title contender with hotshot quarterback David Klingler. They came into the Orange Bowl for a Thursday Night game and got embarrassed by Miami 40-10 in a game that was even worse than the score indicated

Iowa - the defending national champion Hurricanes were supposed to have a very tough 1992 season opener in Iowa City vs. the Hawkeyes. The city of Miami had just been ravaged by Hurricane Andrew and the Canes went into Iowa and easily won 24-7

Wisconsin - Miami has never played a decent Badgers team, but still destroyed Wisconsin by a combined 74-6 in '88 & '89

Missouri - the Tigers were beaten by Miami by a combined 93-7 in the late-'90's

Alabama - the one team that owns Miami, the Crimson Tide consistently beat the Hurricanes in the Seventies and pulled off a huge upset in the 1993 Sugar Bowl for a national title

Louisville - they've never beaten Miami in 10 tries, though they came damn close in 2004 and will get a chance at home this season in what should be a great game

Nebraska - the Cornhuskers haven't played a regular season game in Miami in over 50 years, but the two teams have a storied history because of the Orange Bowl Classic. Miami lost in Lincoln a few times in the '70's then beat Nebraska 4 straight times on New Year's Day at the Orange Bowl. Nebraska and Tom Osborne finally got the monkey off their back in the 1995 OBC. Miami restored order by slaughtering the Huskers in front of a "Sea of Red" at the 2002 Rose Bowl (a game Miami could have won by 60+ had Coker not called off the dogs at halftime when it was 34-0)

I'm not going to list any OOC games vs. ACC or Big East teams like Virginia Tech, Boston College, Virginia, West Virginia, Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Clemson, etc because we've played them so many times over the years.

The only college football powers that Miami hasn't played in the last 25 years or so are Southern Cal and Texas A&M. Miami will play the Aggies in 2007 and 2008, but USC refuses to accept a home and home with Miami; they'll only agree to play 2 games in California and 1 in Miami.

[SoCalBronco]

Colorado has certainly been one of the few big football schools in the country to consistently play a tough out of conference schedule. But your dare is pretty easy to counter; the University of Miami helped build its program in the late-'70's and '80's by playing every top team they could (mostly on the road). The Hurricanes still try and play a tough OOC schedule, but it's gotten hard over the years to have teams accept a home and home series with a game in the Orange Bowl.

Teams Miami has played OOC in the same time frame you listed for CU:

Notre Dame - tons of classic games in the Eighties until the Domers decided they didn't want to play UM anymore

Florida State - has turned into a conference foe; some of the best college games of all-time have been played between the Canes and Noles

Florida - the Gators haven't beaten Miami in over 20 years and usually refuse to play the Hurricanes anymore

Oklahoma - the Sooners only lost 3 out of 36 games in 1985, 1986 and 1987 -- all of them to Miami, one of my favorite Hurricane stats. These two teams will finally get together again in 2007 and 2009

Penn State - A 1979 Jim Kelly-led upset of PSU in State College is considered to be the start of Miami's college football dominance

Michigan - Miami pulled off one of the greatest comebacks in college football history in Ann Arbor in 1988; the Wolverines never returned to Miami to complete a home and home

LSU - in 1988 LSU won the SEC and still lost 44-3 to Miami in Baton Rouge

UCLA - Miami split a home and home with the Bruins in 1995 and 1998

Washington - Back when the Huskies were good they ended Miami's NCAA record 58-game home winning streak in 1994 and cost Miami a national title in 2000 by beating the Canes in Seattle. We got a little payback in 2001 by beating the then 14th ranked Huskies 65-7 at the Orange Bowl.

Arizona - Back when they had the Desert Swarm defense they gave Miami all they could handle in a home and home in 1991 and 1992.

Tennessee - Split a home and home with the Canes in 2002 and 2003 (the Vols would have been swept if not for Brock Berlin's incompetence in '03)

Arkansas - Steve Atwater and the Razorbacks were crushed 51-7 at home in 1987 and then almost pulled off an upset at the Orange Bowl the next season

Michigan State - A pretty good 1989 Spartan team lost to Miami and MSU never returned to play in the Orange Bowl

Colorado - No college football fan will forget the brawl and classic game between the Canes and Buffs at Folsom in 1993. I was there and am glad I was. The long delayed return to Miami didn't go so well for CU last year (save for Mason Crosby's great kick at sea level)

Texas - another team that has never returned to play Miami in South Florida after playing the Canes at home in Austin in 1981. Although it was a bowl game, Miami still humiliated Texas 46-3 in the 1991 Cotton Bowl played, obviously, in Texas

South Carolina - Miami swept a home and home with the Gamecocks in '86 & '87

Ohio State - the Buckeyes have never played Miami in the Orange Bowl, but the two teams did play in the 1999 Kickoff Classic with Miami winning. OSU and Miami will play a home and home in 2010 and 2011, which should be fun

Auburn - Like the Buckeyes, Auburn played Miami in the 1984 Kickoff Classic. The Bo Jackson-led Tigers lost to the defending national champion Hurricanes

Arizona State - The Sun Devils played a home and home with Miami in 1994 and 1997. Miami blew out ASU in Tempe in '94 and then lost in a shocker (at the time) to Jake Plummer and a very good Sun Devil team at the Orange Bowl in '97

Brigham Young - Miami spanked the Cougars at home in 1988 and then lost in one of the bigger upsets of the '90's to BYU at Provo in the 1990 season opener

Houston - The 1991 Cougars were supposed to be a national title contender with hotshot quarterback David Klingler. They came into the Orange Bowl for a Thursday Night game and got embarrassed by Miami 40-10 in a game that was even worse than the score indicated

Iowa - the defending national champion Hurricanes were supposed to have a very tough 1992 season opener in Iowa City vs. the Hawkeyes. The city of Miami had just been ravaged by Hurricane Andrew and the Canes went into Iowa and easily won 24-7

Wisconsin - Miami has never played a decent Badgers team, but still destroyed Wisconsin by a combined 74-6 in '88 & '89

Missouri - the Tigers were beaten by Miami by a combined 93-7 in the late-'90's

Alabama - the one team that owns Miami, the Crimson Tide consistently beat the Hurricanes in the Seventies and pulled off a huge upset in the 1993 Sugar Bowl for a national title

Louisville - they've never beaten Miami in 10 tries, though they came damn close in 2004 and will get a chance at home this season in what should be a great game

Nebraska - the Cornhuskers haven't played a regular season game in Miami in over 50 years, but the two teams have a storied history because of the Orange Bowl Classic. Miami lost in Lincoln a few times in the '70's then beat Nebraska 4 straight times on New Year's Day at the Orange Bowl. Nebraska and Tom Osborne finally got the monkey off their back in the 1995 OBC. Miami restored order by slaughtering the Huskers in front of a "Sea of Red" at the 2002 Rose Bowl (a game Miami could have won by 60+ had Coker not called off the dogs at halftime when it was 34-0)

I'm not going to list any OOC games vs. ACC or Big East teams like Virginia Tech, Boston College, Virginia, West Virginia, Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Clemson, etc because we've played them so many times over the years.

The only college football powers that Miami hasn't played in the last 25 years or so are Southern Cal and Texas A&M. Miami will play the Aggies in 2007 and 2008, but USC refuses to accept a home and home with Miami; they'll only agree to play 2 games in California and 1 in Miami.


............................and that is why Breck is my hero.

[Crushaholic]

The only college football powers that Miami hasn't played in the last 25 years or so are Southern Cal and Texas A&M. Miami will play the Aggies in 2007 and 2008, but USC refuses to accept a home and home with Miami; they'll only agree to play 2 games in California and 1 in Miami.

K-State will tangle with the Hurricanes starting in 2011...

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=294614

MANHATTAN, Kan. - Kansas State and the University of Miami have finalized a two year, home-and-home football series that will have the two programs square off in back-to-back seasons beginning in 2011, head football coach Ron Prince announced Friday.

The contract calls for the Wildcats to travel to Miami to meet the Hurricanes in the Orange Bowl on Sept. 24, 2011. Miami would then return the game at K-State on Sept. 8, 2012.

"The addition of the University of Miami to our future schedules is another step toward reaching our goal of balancing the rigors of playing in the Big 12 and competing on a national stage in select out-of-conference games on an annual basis," Prince said. "We are thrilled that the University of Miami has agreed to participate with us in what promises to be an outstanding intersectional match-up."

The game in 2011 will mark the first ever meeting between the two schools on the gridiron. It will also be Kansas State's first trip to the Sunshine State since 1976, when the Wildcats faced Florida State in Tallahassee, Fla. In fact, K-State, which has never before played in the city of Miami, has played just five games - two at Florida, two at Florida State and one at Tampa - in the state of Florida in its 110 seasons of college football.

[BroncoBuff]

Colorado has certainly been one of the few big football schools in the country to consistently play a tough out of conference schedule. But your dare is pretty easy to counter; the University of Miami helped build its program in the late-'70's and '80's by playing every top team they could (mostly on the road). The Hurricanes still try and play a tough OOC schedule, but it's gotten hard over the years to have teams accept a home and home series with a game in the Orange Bowl.

Teams Miami has played OOC in the same time frame you listed for CU:
No doubt that's a lotta balls ... and we can't match the 'Canes record as a Top 3 program over that period ... and I appreciate your acknowledgement of CU's fearless scheduling.

But I have a strong retort: For 20+ of those 33-35 years, Miami was AN INDEPENDENT! Which means your list of worthy OOC opponents is gleaned from 11-12 game schedules. Colorado on the other hand has been Big 8/XII during that entire span ... and our list of worthy OOC opponents comes from just 3-5 OOC games a year.

To be fair, then, I get to add a few to the CU list:

NEBRASKA - every year for the last 100 years.
OKLAHOMA - 95 of the last 100 years
TEXAS - in addition to the OOC mentioned above, 8 times in the last 10 years, incl. 3 Big XII Championship games
MISSOURI, OK STATE, K-STATE, KANSAS (intermittently powerful) - appx 80 of the last 85 years each

[BroncoBuff]

K-State will tangle with the Hurricanes starting in 2011...

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=294614

MANHATTAN, Kan. - Kansas State and the University of Miami have finalized a two year, home-and-home football series that will have the two programs square off in back-to-back seasons beginning in 2011, head football coach Ron Prince announced Friday.

The contract calls for the Wildcats to travel to Miami to meet the Hurricanes in the Orange Bowl on Sept. 24, 2011. Miami would then return the game at K-State on Sept. 8, 2012.

I hope Prince is all he's cracked up to be ... it's to all our advantages if K-State continues as a national power.

The Big XII North has taken enough crap lately ...

[Master___Pain]

I hope Prince is all he's cracked up to be ... it's to all our advantages if K-State continues as a national power.

I know you are trying to be nice here, but K-state has never been a national power. Over inflated seasons by beating ****ty teams does not a national power make.
1994 9-3 record, 3 wins against UNLV, Louisiana-Layfayette and Rice
1995 10-2, 4 wins against Temple, Akron, Cinncinati and N. Illinois
1996 9-3 3 wins against Indiana St, Rice, and Cinncinati
1997 11-1 3 wins against Northern Illinois, Ohio, Bowling Green
1998 11-2 3 wins against Indiana St, Nortern Illinois, Louisiana-Monroe
1999 11-1 3 wins against Temple, UTEP, and Utah St.
2000 11-3 wins against Lousiana Tech, Ball St and North Texas
2002 11-2 wins against Western Kentucky, Louisiana Monroe, Eastern Illinois
2003 11-4 wins against Troy St, McNeese St, UMass

They were a good team for about ten years , before that people in Manhattan could not tell you the difference between a football and a haybaler.

The Big XII North has taken enough crap lately ...
Quite true.

[Saulbadguy]

I know you are trying to be nice here, but K-state has never been a national power. Over inflated seasons by beating ****ty teams does not a national power make.
1994 9-3 record, 3 wins against UNLV, Louisiana-Layfayette and Rice
1995 10-2, 4 wins against Temple, Akron, Cinncinati and N. Illinois
1996 9-3 3 wins against Indiana St, Rice, and Cinncinati
1997 11-1 3 wins against Northern Illinois, Ohio, Bowling Green
1998 11-2 3 wins against Indiana St, Nortern Illinois, Louisiana-Monroe
1999 11-1 3 wins against Temple, UTEP, and Utah St.
2000 11-3 wins against Lousiana Tech, Ball St and North Texas
2002 11-2 wins against Western Kentucky, Louisiana Monroe, Eastern Illinois
2003 11-4 wins against Troy St, McNeese St, UMass

They were a good team for about ten years , before that people in Manhattan could not tell you the difference between a football and a haybaler.


Quite true.
Hilarious!

[Master___Pain]

Hilarious!

Happy birthday you putz!

I take it you don't disagree?

[BroncoBuff]

I know you are trying to be nice here, but K-state has never been a national power. Over inflated seasons by beating ****ty teams does not a national power make.
I was being serious, though I guess the term "national power" sounds a bit inflated, especially for them. It depends on what you mean by "national power." They're definitely a notch below us, but nearly even with a Wisconsin, for example, which sucked before Barry Alvarez arrived. I suppose "national power" means a team that's expected to be and actually is ranked at some point every year, and sustains that position for 10 years or more. The records you quoted were very impressive - 10+ almost every year - although the OCC schedules are a disgrace! What a bunch of pansy Mildcats! :clown: :peace: :flower:

But the year A&M upset K-State in the Big XII title game - wasn't K-State in the running for a national title? I think they were.

[Crushaholic]

I was being serious, though I guess the term "national power" sounds a bit inflated, especially for them. It depends on what you mean by "national power." They're definitely a notch below us, but nearly even with a Wisconsin, for example, which sucked before Barry Alvarez arrived. I suppose "national power" means a team that's expected to be and actually is ranked at some point every year, and sustains that position for 10 years or more. The records you quoted were very impressive - 10+ almost every year - although the OCC schedules are a disgrace! What a bunch of pansy Mildcats! :clown: :peace: :flower:

But the year A&M upset K-State in the Big XII title game - wasn't K-State in the running for a national title? I think they were.

Yes we were. However, we fell apart at the seams like a kid at Christmas once we heard UCLA lost...oops...

[Kaylore]

Brigham Young - Miami spanked the Cougars at home in 1988 and then lost in one of the bigger upsets of the '90's to BYU at Provo in the 1990 season opener

I remember that game. Number one, as I recall and we won. I bet that stuck in their craw pretty good.

[Breck Bronc]

I remember that game. Number one, as I recall and we won. I bet that stuck in their craw pretty good.Even though it was the season opener that game cost Miami the national championship. They were playing better football than anybody at the end of the season but the loss at BYU and another loss at Notre Dame allowed Colorado and Georgia Tech to split the national title. 1990 was one of the more bizarre years in college football history.

Miami fans will always remember how poorly treated they were in Provo. Only the trash can throwing, ambulance rocking fans of West Virginia have been worse, and that's saying something.

[BroncoBuff]

Colorado has certainly been one of the few big football schools in the country to consistently play a tough out of conference schedule. But your dare is pretty easy to counter; the University of Miami helped build its program in the late-'70's and '80's by playing every top team they could (mostly on the road).

You left one off your list: Colorado, in 1975 and 76. We won both (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&KEY=&Q_SEASON=1976) (sorry). Colorado was damn good in the 70s ... two Orange Bowls, two Top 10 finishes including #3 in 1971, the year we beat Penn State 41-13 and were on the cover of SI. Penn State - another very big opponent we scheduled. We've always played the tough teams.


SoCal and Breck: Speaking of Miami and SI covers and the Broncos ;D ... Rubin Carter is the first Miami Hurricane player I remember knowing about. He was on the cover of SI in I think '75: "The Case for the 3-4 Defense." Broncos DC Joe Collier pioneered the 3-4, which, by chance, was where and from whom Belichik learned it. He was an assistant for one year under Collier.

Anyway, who were the other 'Canes NFL pioneers?

[BroncoBuff]

We played Miami a third time in 1978 in Boulder, so it was a 2-for-1 H&H series. We won that game too (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=1978).

COLORADO and MIAMI scheduled another series - this time 1-for-1 H&H an odd 12 years apart:

The first in Boulder in 199 Miami won 35-29 on national TV. (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=1993), and there was a big gang-inspired near brawl at midfield before kickoff as I recall. Kinda ugly. Then in 2005, Mason Crosby kicked a 58-yard FG in a muggy September Orange Bowl, but Sincorice Moss grabbed a 50+ tard TD pass to help Miami win 23-3 (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=2005).

So I guess we lead the series 3-2. ;D

[SoCalBronco]

We played Miami a third time in 1978 in Boulder, so it was a 2-for-1 H&H series. We won that game too (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=1978).

COLORADO and MIAMI scheduled another series - this time 1-for-1 H&H an odd 12 years apart:

The first in Boulder in 199 Miami won 35-29 on national TV. (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=1993), and there was a big gang-inspired near brawl at midfield before kickoff as I recall. Kinda ugly. Then in 2005, Mason Crosby kicked a 58-yard FG in a muggy September Orange Bowl, but Sincorice Moss grabbed a 50+ tard TD pass to help Miami win 23-3 (http://www.cubuffs.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=3850&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&Q_SEASON=2005).

So I guess we lead the series 3-2. ;D

1993 was the infamous Pez Bowl..........our very own Pezman was at that game in the CU band, he threw his trombone at an unsuspecting and innocent Miami player on the sidelines which snowballed into a full scale brawl (think Police Academy, when that one cop throws his half eaten apple behind him, it hits someone in the head and starts the LA riots).

:)

J/K ofcourse (well about the trombone part....but he was there and in the CU band from what he has told me).

[Master___Pain]

After a year of lying dormant, I'm surprised to see this thread reappear...

[Crushaholic]

It begs the question...Do all your thread titles have to contain a misspelled word?;D ;)

[BroncoBuff]

After a year of lying dormant, I'm surprised to see this thread reappear...

I was searching for the list of who we've played OOC schedule, and I punched in a bunch of names. I was countering a guy named "Bugeater" who said them playing USC porved they weren't afraid to "play the big boys." :~ohyah!:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=4089574#post4089574

[Master___Pain]

It begs the question...Do all your thread titles have to contain a misspelled word?;D ;)

In a word.......yes