Rothlisberger Hurt in Motorcycle wreck

[Broncoman13]

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribunereview/s_457685.html

Roethlisberger injured in accident

Monday, June 12, 2006


Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was injured in a motorcycle accident this morning on Second Avenue near the 10th Street bridge, police said.
The accident happened shortly before 11:25 a.m. He was not wearing a helmet. Police have closed down the bridge, Second Avenue and the Armstrong Tunnels.

[Broncoman13]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#

[i4jelway7]

yep just heard it on Colin Cowherd

[illbroncsfn]

WOW- I was just listening to Big Ben on sports radio out of chicago this a.m.

hope he's ok....

[Broncoman13]

It looks/sounds pretty bad... The video shows a little but not too much.

[freak6]

You think Slap is happy that he might be hurt?

[Arkansas Bronco]

I hope it isnt life threatening. Seriously. But I dont see why Men getting paid millions cant hold off on the bikes till they retire. He should have taken note from KW2.

[PatsWin2002]

No doubt all of Pittsburgh is holding its collective breath right now........

Why Ben? WHY??

[12th man]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/9356067/detail.html#
Dang. did you click on the video and see that smoke? I hope he's alright

[scorpio]

This was bound to happen after he bragged about not wearing a helmet when the KW2 thing happened

[freak6]

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4458037/detail.html

[Garcia Bronco]

when are the dumbasses of the world going to learn that there are two types of motorcycle riders. The kind that have been down...and the kind that are going to go down.

[freak6]

There are two types of DONORcycle riders. The kind that have been down...and the kind that are going to go down.

Everytime I think about taking it up, I think about all my friends that have eaten pavement. Fk that noise.

You feel that wind blowing east? That's Steeler Nation sucking in a deep breath and holding it.

[smalltowngrll]

You always think you are invincible and it can't happen to you....until it happens to you!!

Hope he's alright! I'd hate to see something like this happen to anyone!

[youcandoit1687]

steelers fever forum ses that on the news it sed he is bleeding from the head. no word on to what extent he is bleeding

[Tom A Hawk]

I hope it isnt life threatening. Seriously. But I dont see why Men getting paid millions cant hold off on the bikes till they retire. He should have taken note from KW2.

agree........

[bombay]

Man, I hope he's ok. Such a promising life ahead of him.

Wear a brain bucket, Ben, if you gots to ride a motorcyle. Better yet, just park the ****er.

[watermock]

This just sounds really foreboding. I hope that dark stain is gasoline.

[Garcia Bronco]

he did a live interview of Maike and Mike this morning

[i4jelway7]

reports say he went over the handle bars of his motorcycle and he hit the windshield of another car... he was lectured friday on his motorcycle riding w/ no helmet by Cowher

[MechanicalBull]

he did a live interview of Maike and Mike this morning

yeah i heard him on there too. I hope he is ok but when are these athletes going to learn about wearing helmets or doing other stupid stuff. Winslow and Jason Williams( out of duke) lose millions and possibly their careers from all this.

[Arkansas Bronco]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830
Espn says injurys non-life threatening.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830
Espn says injurys non-life threatening.
Hopefully he's OK.
There nothing wrong with riding motorcycles.... safely, millions of people do it.

[watermock]

Says he's concious. Bikes are just so damn dangerous in cities.

[freak6]

I hope Cutler is watching, we should have clauses that say no motorcycle riding without a helmet if at all.

[RhymesayersDU]

I would never wish anybody harm like this, but I'm sorry, I feel it is incredibly dumb for Ben to ride a motorcycle at all. Look, if your body is your meal ticket, why get on something so dangerous to it. Furthermore, it's completely retarded to not wear a helmet when on one.

I hope he's OK and I hope that this won't effect his playing ability, but I don't feel sorry for him at all.

[GonzoLays]

Ahh, he's okay. The report said nothing about broken bones or missing limbs. Probably just a bad concussion with some minor bleeding involved.

[watermock]

Hopefully he's OK.
There nothing wrong with riding motorcycles.... safely, millions of people do it.

Did you see that cluster**** he was driving thru? It was like a congested mousetrap with exit ramps and underpasses. In cities, it's really hard to expand the roads. I'll pass on riding in metropolitan main thoroughfares. I can wipe out on my own thank you.

[youcandoit1687]

Ahh, he's okay. The report said nothing about broken bones or missing limbs. Probably just a bad concussion with some minor bleeding involved.

im getting mixed reports over at steeler fever. ive read perfusely bleeding to walking and talking with minor head injuries....??????????i need answers!!!!!!!

[GonzoLays]

I would never wish anybody harm like this, but I'm sorry, I feel it is incredibly dumb for Ben to ride a motorcycle at all. Look, if your body is your meal ticket, why get on something so dangerous to it. Furthermore, it's completely retarded to not wear a helmet when on one.

I hope he's OK and I hope that this won't effect his playing ability, but I don't feel sorry for him at all.

What he did is like a hand model taking a job as a fry cook at MickeyDees.

Stupid.

[55CrushEm]

Ahh, he's okay. The report said nothing about broken bones or missing limbs. Probably just a bad concussion with some minor bleeding involved.

That's what I suspect, too......at least this will smarten him up.....hopefully.

[freak6]

A witness to the aftermath of the accident told WTAE at 12:11 p.m. that Roethlisberger was alert and talking to paramedics, but there was "blood everywhere."

[Rascal]

Waffle is crying in his mom's arms.

[-Slap-]

You think Slap is happy that he might be hurt?
I've never wished any ill will on Rothliesberger, or anyone else who didn't have it coming. Pretty stupid thing for him to do, though.

[Mr Chatterboodamn]

motorcycle:

[bendog]

I hope Cutler is watching, we should have clauses that say no motorcycle riding without a helmet if at all.
SOB's should have mandated lots of cycling sans helmet.

[freak6]

I've never wished any ill will on Rothliesberger, or anyone else who didn't have it coming. Pretty stupid thing for him to do, though.

Yep. I hope he's able to make it back for training camp. I am a big fan of Roth.

Remember the 98 Broncos Harley Riders, they even made a calendar of thier bikes I think. I think like 20 Broncos from the SB 32 team rode.

[Old Dude]

I hate motorcycles.

[WABronco]

I hope it isnt life threatening. Seriously. But I dont see why Men getting paid millions cant hold off on the bikes till they retire. He should have taken note from KW2.
At least Kellen wore a freakin' helmet...

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Hope is OK. Pretty dumb not wearing a helmet. DT Pit-town is no place for a motorcycle anyway. Narrow, confusing streets, congested with very poor visibility because of the buildings and the shadows, etc.

[ColtSteel25]

No disrespect to Big Ben, but if you dont wear a helmet when riding, you're a complete fool. Hope he's okay. Didnt they do an ESPN story on this whenever Kellen Winslow wrecked his bike and got injured, and Big Ben was one of those people stating that there shouldnt be clauses in contracts stating that players shouldnt be allowed to ride bikes while under contract? Now he's eating his words. Hope he's okay though.

[Dukes]

I really hope he's ok. It would be a shame for him to miss any time on the field. But you'd think he would at least wear a helmet. Riding a crotch rocket in a metropolitan area is dumb enough, but not wearing a helmet is just insane.

[Crushaholic]

Hopefully, Cowher put the fear of God in him like only he can. Ben deserves a major scolding for his stupidity...

[-Slap-]

No disrespect to Big Ben, but if you dont wear a helmet when riding, you're a complete fool. Hope he's okay. Didnt they do an ESPN story on this whenever Kellen Winslow wrecked his bike and got injured, and Big Ben was one of those people stating that there shouldnt be clauses in contracts stating that players shouldnt be allowed to ride bikes while under contract? Now he's eating his words. Hope he's okay though.
Everyone knew it was just a matter of time before he laid it down.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4450514/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4458037/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4494368/detail.html

[Paladin]

Bikes, Skiing, Boating, getting off the couch, jumping rope, carrying groceries and meat up stairs, carrying meat and groceries down stairs, carrying meat and groceries, walking down driveways, running into punches, fooling with the wife, fooling with the girlies and similar tomfoolery probably all need to be contractually banned in order to protect the needs of the local football fanatics. I recall that most all of the above antics have, at one time or another, been responsible for sidelining an athlete in one sport or another. Since real men are driven by testosterone, there will always be "thrill' events that they will try. And get themselves messed up while doing them.

Taken by themselves, such activities can be enjoyed when proper precautions are taken. Not wearing a helmut qualifies as comeplete "dumarsery" in my book. But such things as wheelies and speed are testamonials to testosterone induced delusions of invincibility.

I do hope that he is relatively unharmed. On the other hand, I hope he hurts enough to learn and to swear to God that he will be a model of sanity and cautiousness in the future.

[Garcia Bronco]

Everyone knew it was just a matter of time before he laid it down.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4450514/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4458037/detail.html

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/sports/4494368/detail.html


If he was warned...then he deserves every bad thing that happens to him.

[Mile High Shack]

sounds like he flipped over his handlebars and his head hit the car's windshield

while I bet he'll have a major concussion, I don't think it's anything life threatening nor did he have any knee problems or anything

[watermock]

Broken jaw, lost some teeth, some head trauma but not as bad as it sounded at first.

[Mile High Shack]

Broken jaw, lost some teeth, some head trauma but not as bad as it sounded at first.

not anything that will ruin his chances to play football for awhile

[NOLA Bronco]

Didn't the Broncos prohibite Elway from Skiing at one time????

Why didn't the Steelers do the same?

[Man-Goblin]

Broken jaw, lost some teeth, some head trauma but not as bad as it sounded at first.

Lucky bastard. Anyone know how much time you miss with a broken jaw? don't they usually have to wire it shut for a few months?

[Nuggets4]

I hate motorcycles.

Amen.

[Mile High Shack]

Amen.

I have never drove one in my life

[bronco militia]

from pft.com


ROETHLISBERGER IN SURGERY

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger currently is undergoing surgery for injuries suffered in a Monday morning automobile accident.

Dr. Larry Jones of Mercy Hospital declined to offer any details regarding the nature of the surgery.

Roethlisberger is listed in serious but stable condition. Dr. Jones said that Roethlisberger was alert and talking before the commencement of the procedure.

Reporters on WTAE are speculating that Roethlisberger is having surgery to repair jaw injuries.

[Broncoman13]

Broken jaw, lost some teeth, some head trauma but not as bad as it sounded at first.


Are you guessing or did you hear something listing injuries?

[bronco_mvp_30]

Jeez, That kid is good too! How dumb do you have to be to ride a motorcycle, go skiing, etc when you are making millions based on your physical wellness!

[watermock]

Read it on the KFFL pitt board second hand.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I have never drove one in my life
Since you are so open injury raise dramaticaly. When I was in high school a car ran a stop sign and hit me from the side threw me 18 feet and broke my leg in multiple places (also knocked my helmet of my head), took 6 surgeries to get my leg back right.

[bronco_mvp_30]

So, if no Roethlisberger, steelers go 5-11?

[Broncoman13]

Drudge has it up an running now... says he was alert going into surgery.

Dumb shiat! ESPN was reporting at lunch that Alcohol may have been a factor???

[bronco militia]

nice add placement, espn....

[watermock]

Yamaha needs to get that ad off that page..."free helmet with purchase".. Ha!

That's why they wear the jaw protectory type. He wouldn't have a busted jaw, broken teeth or head trauma most likely.

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:HcK2YbSmXnRCcM:http://www.made-in-china.com/showimages/111/200003230/0/Full-face_Helmet_(MEIYU-TK18_(M)).jpg

[Pezman]

nice add placement, espn....

Unbelievable isnt it?

[BABronco]

Amen.
Nothin is wrong with riding bikes. There is a question on that permit test that will make you think before riding bikes though. Surely scared me "How many times does the average rider crash/drop the bike within their first 3 months. Answer was 6zowie! I only dropped mine twice. Nearly got hit three times. Decided riding wasn't for me. But it's really relaxing when your doing it. Nothing feels better. Takes a complete idiot not to wear a helmet though.

[Gcver2ver3]

The guy was upset that people criticized him for not wearing a helmet...he sees what happened to winslow jr....and he still doesn't wear a helmet...and he gets a serious head injury in a bike accident....

Wow....talk about karma.....

[OrangeShadow]

id never ride my bike without a helmet its just stupid especially when you are getting paid millions of dollars

[Garcia Bronco]

how many of you bike riders have ever weaved through traffic?...and you know what I mean.

[12th man]

Drudge has it up an running now... says he was alert going into surgery.

Dumb shiat! ESPN was reporting at lunch that Alcohol may have been a factor???
I havnet read that. but if so, wow. driving without a helmet and alcohol may have been a factor. I sincerely hope he is ok, but what a dumb thing to do by Roth.

[watermock]

Well, I have been guilty of not wearing a helmet when it's light traffic or just kinda rollin' around this sleep town, but I wouldn't ride a bike in a major city helmet or no helmet.

[BABronco]

how many of you bike riders have ever weaved through traffic?...and you know what I mean.
I have

[bronco_mvp_30]

Ok, so what do you think now...

Steelers 5-11 ? ? ?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Broken jaw, lost some teeth, some head trauma but not as bad as it sounded at first.

Dumbass. He deserved that for all his comments about refusing to wear his helmet.

[bronco_mvp_30]

Here are their other QBs

08 Boyd, Shane QB 6-1 232 9/18/82 1 Kentucky
05 Rutherford, Rod QB 6-2 223 12/10/80 2 Pittsburgh
16 Batch, Charlie QB 6-2 216 12/5/74 9 Eastern Michigan

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Sounds like he was seriously injured. Depending on how badly his face is broken he could be out for awhile.

----------------------------------------------------
Roethlisberger hurt in motorcycle crash
By JOE MANDAK, Associated Press Writer

PITTSBURGH - Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who has said he dislikes wearing a motorcycle helmet, was seriously injured in a motorcycle crash and taken to a hospital Monday.

Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma at Mercy Hospital, said Roethlisberger was in serious but stable condition in an operating room Monday afternoon. He was talking before he went into surgery, Jones said.

A pool of blood was found at the accident site.

"He was alert and conscious," said Ernie Roman, shift commander for the Allegheny County emergency service.

The crash happened at an intersection at the edge of downtown.

A silver Chrysler New Yorker with damage to the front passenger fender was removed and Roethlisberger's bike was loaded onto a flatbed truck. Police were detouring traffic around the crash scene as onlookers and media gathered.

In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger helped guide the Steelers to the Super Bowl championship last season.

Calls to Roethlisberger's agent, Leigh Steinberg, were not immediately returned.

The 24-year-old Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.

"He talked about being a risk-taker and I'm not really a risk-taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

CONT (http://tinyurl.com/jakjq)

[Dutch]

This was bound to happen after he bragged about not wearing a helmet when the KW2 thing happened



10$ head, 10$ helmet.
$500 head, $500 helmet
Idiot, no helmet

typical of the "wind in our hair" (whistling between the ears) crowd.

In the Moto world we refer to this as "Darwinism"

Dutch

[Master___Pain]

Ok, so what do you think now...

Steelers 5-11 ? ? ?

I don't think Ben will miss any time from this accident. That's what I think.

[Pezman]

Reminds me that here in Cali, the motorcycle crowds are constantly putting themselves in danger. Its legal in California for bikers to go between cars, and believe me, they do it all the time. Even the bike cops are crazy, weaving in and out of traffic.

I Just dont get how someone would risk their personal safety doing something like that. But at least they are forced to wear helmets here. As I recall, its legal to not wear one in Colorado still correct?

Anyway, I'm hoping the dude is ok. It would be a terrible if he was hurt badly enough that his season was in jeopardy.

[Old Dude]

We just finished paying almost $17,000 in medical expenses & support for 3 months of lost wages because of a frikkin' motorcycle accident.

I am still kind of POd about it.

[bronco_mvp_30]

Like Bradshaw said "Ride it when you retire!"

DUMBASS!

[12th man]

Reminds me that here in Cali, the motorcycle crowds are constantly putting themselves in danger. Its legal in California for bikers to go between cars, and believe me, they do it all the time. Even the bike cops are crazy, weaving in and out of traffic.

I Just dont get how someone would risk their personal safety doing something like that. But at least they are forced to wear helmets here. As I recall, its legal to not wear one in Colorado still correct?

Anyway, I'm hoping the dude is ok. It would be a terrible if he was hurt badly enough that his season was in jeopardy.
I don't know about you, but I hate when bikers weave in and out of traffic and get in front of you. for some reason it makes me nervous. especialy in Denver on the interstate. I don't know why, I just get nervous.

[bronco_mvp_30]

I Just dont get how someone would risk their personal safety doing something like that. But at least they are forced to wear helmets here. As I recall, its legal to not wear one in Colorado still correct?
.

I have a one word answer for this...

DARWIN

[Breck Bronc]

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8585/fifthbenpicture1mg.jpg

[bronco militia]

The car involved had a Maine license plate

http://www.wpxi.com/sports/9356102/detail.html

a Pats fan, maybe?

[bronco_mvp_30]

The guy can read a football field like a champ...

He can find the open man & stand up to the pocket pressure...

Hard to believe he can't make a good decision to save his life!

[-Slap-]

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8585/fifthbenpicture1mg.jpg
Was this post accident?

[Master___Pain]

A couple of months ago I was getting on I-25 at Hampden going south bound. Behind me I heard the whine of a crotch rocket, as I got to the end of the on ramp, the dude on the rocket pops a wheelie going at least 75mph until the next exit, nearly a mile away. I was dumbfunded.....the rider/donor was wearing shorts, t-shirt and no helmet. All I could think to my self was what an idiot.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Reminds me that here in Cali, the motorcycle crowds are constantly putting themselves in danger. Its legal in California for bikers to go between cars, and believe me, they do it all the time. Even the bike cops are crazy, weaving in and out of traffic.

I Just dont get how someone would risk their personal safety doing something like that. But at least they are forced to wear helmets here. As I recall, its legal to not wear one in Colorado still correct?

Anyway, I'm hoping the dude is ok. It would be a terrible if he was hurt badly enough that his season was in jeopardy.

Sounds like Big Ben's face is broken up pretty good.

Yeah, Colorado has no helmet laws, one of only 3 states...




http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1879/hlaws7hn.png

[Crowpointer]

id never ride my bike without a helmet its just stupid especially when you are getting paid millions of dollars
Were you at the Laconia Bike week rally ? I saw that 5 of those Bikers were killed on the ride up.

[watermock]

One thing to consider is even if they patch his jaw, stitch his head and he gets implants for teeth, he still might of severely increased his chances of suffering concussions if and when he comes back.

[ColtSteel25]

nice add placement, espn....


Gotta love how they're advertising motorcycles on that page.

[toad]

ESPN just reported he's undergoing "surgery" as we speak...and said he was "badly injured."

Said the pool of blood is still visible now...

I wish him the best - may he make a full recovery.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

ESPN just reported he's undergoing "surgery" as we speak...and said he was "badly injured."
Said the pool of blood is still visible now...
I wish him the best - may he make a full recovery.
Dan Patrict saying he won't report news he's getting from people on the scene until he gets official word because he doesn't want to alarm anyone.

[gadlaw]

It seems kind of strange, the Bengal Quarterback Carson Palmer going down in that freakish accident. Now Ben Roethlisberger goes down in a freakish motorcycle accident. Not the same I realize, Palmer was in full protective gear and got his leg rolled and Roethlisberger goes down helmetless head first into a car but still both are starting quarterbacks/stars of the AFC North and they go down in strange circumstances. If I was in Cleveland and Baltimore I'd keep an eye on my star players. I mean, if there were any star players, especially quarterbacks in those two places. Still and all, very odd.

[maven]

Roth has already made millions. He's set for life. Why people calling him a dumbass for not wearing a helmet is beyond me. If he doesn't want to wear one so be it. It's his life & he knows the risk. Cowher can complain all he wants. Roth is going to do what he wants to do. Atleast he probably has good insurance.

[smalltowngrll]

It seems kind of strange, the Bengal Quarterback Carson Palmer going down in that freakish accident. Now Ben Roethlisberger goes down in a freakish motorcycle accident. Not the same I realize, Palmer was in full protective gear and got his leg rolled and Roethlisberger goes down helmetless head first into a car but still both are starting quarterbacks/stars of the AFC North and they go down in strange circumstances. If I was in Cleveland and Baltimore I'd keep an eye on my star players. I mean, if there were any star players, especially quarterbacks in those two places. Still and all, very odd.


At this rate...next word you hear is that it will all be Plummer's fault! :thanku:

[maven]

At this rate...next word you hear is that it will all be Plummer's fault! :thanku:

More like Griese's fault...

[Nuggets4]

Nothin is wrong with riding bikes. There is a question on that permit test that will make you think before riding bikes though. Surely scared me "How many times does the average rider crash/drop the bike within their first 3 months. Answer was 6zowie! I only dropped mine twice. Nearly got hit three times. Decided riding wasn't for me. But it's really relaxing when your doing it. Nothing feels better. Takes a complete idiot not to wear a helmet though.

No, there is nothing wrong with riding a bike. I had a motorcycle license. Had being the key word there. Helmets do help your odds of survival, but tehy aren't a guarantee. I'm amazed that everyone doesn't wear them, but people are stupid. Just remember, even if you are wearing a helmet and have a protective jacket on, your life is still in danger.

[watermock]

If he's got a bruised brain they might have to induce coma.

[smalltowngrll]

More like Griese's fault...

LOL...I would've said that, but Jakes been gettin' in trouble with the media a lot lately.

[Kaylore]

I hope he gets well and am gratefull he isn't hurt worse than he was. I am also grateful he was able to get medical help right away. Hopefully the injuries are minor enough that he can make a speedy recovery.

However...

What he did was incredibly selfish. He put his team, his career and his life at serious risk. He was warned against this on multiple occations and just blew it off. I hope he's humbled enough by the experience to consider what others tell him.

[55CrushEm]

John Clayton was saying that he was in surgery to "repair a big gash".....and that it was "certainly not life threatening" and "probably not even career threatening"......

[Garcia Bronco]

I hope he gets well and am gratefull he isn't hurt worse than he was. I am also grateful he was able to get medical help right away. Hopefully the injuries are minor enough that he can make a speedy recovery.

However...

What he did was incredibly selfish. He put his team, his career and his life at serious risk. He was warned against this on multiple occations and just blew it off. I hope he's humbled enough by the experience to consider what others tell him.



a 23 year old can be told nothing

[SAGE]

I hope Cutler is watching, we should have clauses that say no motorcycle riding without a helmet if at all.


lol, dont give a.........about plummer??
Out with the old, in with the new.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

From Profootballtalk.com

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POSTED 2:28 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

BIG BEN GETS "VERY LUCKY"

A league source tells us that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has suffered a broken jaw and various "minor scratches" as a result of his Monday morning motorcycle accident. But, at this point, the team does not believe that he has suffered any serious injuries to body parts that would be used in the playing of football.

"He will have to be thoroughly checked but at this time he looks to be very lucky," said a league source with knowledge of the situation.

We can't fathom Big Ben emerging from the collision without a single arm, hand, elbow, shoulder, leg, knee, hip, ankle, or foot injury that would impact his ability to prepare for and/or play in the 2006 season. The pictures suggest a very serious collision between Roethlisberger's motorcycle and a car. In 2005, for example, concerns regarding the internal injuries suffered by Browns tight end Kellen Winslow when he merely wrecked his motorcycle into a curb quickly gave way to a swollen knee that ultimately was found to have a torn ACL embedded therein.

And if for some reason Roethlisberger couldn't play this year, what would the Steelers do? Make Charlie Batch the starter? Re-sign Tommy Maddox? Bring in Kerry Collins?

Or -- gulp -- bring back Kordell Stewart?

The options would limited, given that the incident happened so late in the offseason. But, for now, it appears that he'll be ready to go after his jaw is healed.

POSTED 1:30 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

ROETHLISBERGER IN SURGERY

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger currently is undergoing surgery for injuries suffered in a Monday morning motorcycle accident.

Dr. Larry Jones of Mercy Hospital declined to offer any details regarding the nature of the surgery.

Roethlisberger is listed in serious but stable condition. Dr. Jones said that Roethlisberger was alert and talking before the commencement of the procedure.

Reporters on WTAE are speculating that Roethlisberger is having surgery to repair jaw injuries.

POSTED 1:21 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

NO WORD YET ON BIG BEN'S CONDITION

All parties remain tight-lipped regarding the condition of Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who is being treated at Mercy Hospital in Pittsburgh after being involved in a motorcycle accident at 11:37 a.m. on Monday.

Per WTAE-TV, Steelers chairman Dan Rooney is on his way to the hospital. Teammate Charlie Batch is already at the facility, but has declined to comment.

Team spokesman Dave Lockett told WTAE that he'll defer comment to a specialist, who is expected to address the media by 1:30 p.m.

The most ominous aspect of the story, in our view, is that the matter has been assigned to the homicide department of the Pittsburgh police, which happens whenever (as a police spokesman told WTAE) there's an accident involving "critical" injuries.

POSTED 11:55 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 1:05 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

ROETHLISBERGER IN "PRETTY BAD" MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports that Steelers quarterback Ben Roetlisberger has been injured in a motorcycle accident near the 10th Street Bridge in Pittsburgh.

(As of 12:10 p.m. EDT, the Tribune-Review's web site had crashed, apparently due to the enormous spike in traffic.)

The accident occurred at 11:37 a.m. He was not wearing a helmet. A veteran police officer has told WTAE-TV that the accident was "pretty bad."

Per WTAE, Roethlisberger has been taken to the trauma unit at Mercy Hospital in Pittsburgh. There are no specifics as to his condition.

A witness to the aftermath of the accident told WTAE at 12:11 p.m. that Roethlisberger was alert and talking to paramedics, but there was "blood everywhere." The witness also said that Roethlisberger was wearing a neck collar. As of 12:17 p.m., neither the Mercy Hospital officials nor the team would divulge any details.

Another witness told WTAE that Roethlisberger "T-boned" a vehicle, struck the windshield with his head (the photo of the shattered glass is horrific), rolled onto the ground and struck his head on the pavement. His eyes were open but he was very confused and disoriented. He said that he was "okay" and tried to get up.

Roethlisberger was criticized in 2005 for not wearing a helmet, which was revealed after Browns tight end Kellen Winslow wrecked his crotch rocket and suffered a torn ACL and internal injuries.

Said Roethlisberger at the time: "I'm pretty conservative and laid back. I'll just continue to be careful. [W]e always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

There's no indication that Roethlisberger was riding in a group on Monday morning.
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[broncocalijohn]

John Clayton was saying that he was in surgery to "repair a big gash".....and that it was "certainly not life threatening" and "probably not even career threatening"......

But it was announced he was at 100% smarts threatening. So jeff kent and kellen winslow jr crashes wasnt good enough to wear a helmet. Most contracts state you cant do dangerous activities like skydiving or riding a motorcycle. Great. We got beat in the AFC championship by a moron.

[Jason in LA]

First I'd like to say that I hope he has a full recovery, and is able to resume his NFL career. I hate seeing stuff like this.

Now, with that out of the way, this guy has to be one of the biggest f***ing morons around. How many times was he warned? Just wear the damn helmet. If he had the helmet on, chances are his injuries would be a lot less severe.

Reports are a broken jaw, loss of teeth, and a concossion. That's not good for a QB. He probably won't miss any time, but that jaw probably would still be sore come football season. And concossions are something that players want to avoid. Once one happens, more are to come. This could come back to bit him in the ass during the season.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Looks like he hit the car pretty hard! Reporting he has damage on both knees and a plastic surgeon has been called. Just reporterd on Dan Patrick show.

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A silver Chrysler New Yorker with damage to the front passenger fender was removed and Roethlisberger's bike was loaded onto a flatbed truck. Police were detouring traffic around the crash scene as onlookers and media gathered.

Police spokesman Lt. Kevin Kraus said police and homicide units were investigating the crash, something standard when there is an accident with critical injuries. Kraus would give no details on the extent of Roethlisberger's injuries or if anyone else was injured.

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[Crowpointer]

According to a police source, Roethlisberger suffered a broken jaw, broke his left sinus cavity, suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost many teeth and has severe injuries to his knees from hitting the pavement.

[Breck Bronc]

John Clayton was saying that he was in surgery to "repair a big gash"That sounds like just the surgery Ashley Lelie needs.

[12th man]

According to a police source, Roethlisberger suffered a broken jaw, broke his left sinus cavity, suffered a 9-inch laceration to the back of his head, lost many teeth and has severe injuries to his knees from hitting the pavement.
wow. seriously, im suprised he is a live. He is lucky. but with severe injuries ti the knees, I wonder how that is going to effect his career or this season.

[dnvrbrncos]

Do you suppose there will be a reporter courageous enough to ask the obvious question when he awakens? Was it worth it Ben?

[12th man]

Do you suppose there will be a reporter courageous enough to ask the obvious question when he awakens? Was it worth it Ben?
I garuntee someone will ask him that, or somthing to the effect about wearing a helmet and Roth didnt' want to.

[BroncosMT]

Man look at the car...it's amazing his back and other parts of his body aren't hurt. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the coming weeks more injuries due to this accident. Glad he is alive and hope for a speedy recovery.

[brncs_fan]

how many of you bike riders have ever weaved through traffic?...and you know what I mean.
A few times. Not a lot of traffic where I live though.

[defenseman]

a 23 year old can be told nothing

For the most part, you hit the nail on the head, indestructable, infallible, hard headed...hopefully..dman

[broncocalijohn]

I garuntee someone will ask him that, or somthing to the effect about wearing a helmet and Roth didnt' want to.
You can ask him but at this point, you just might get a long stare. Temporary if he is lucky.

[defenseman]

Man look at the car...it's amazing his back and other parts of his body aren't hurt. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the coming weeks more injuries due to this accident. Glad he is alive and hope for a speedy recovery.

Lingering "back and neck" injuries often follow this type of accident. Some in months, some the rest of their life. We'll all see how he pans out. Sounds like he was pretty fortunate though considering. Lost some chiclets, gash on the noggin, and a broken meat masher. I'm wondering though, those knees. Man they can be fragile when you least expect it..dman

[Master___Pain]

Anyone got a link to some steeler fan boards? I'd like to see the steeler fan reaction to all of this.

I would expect they are really nervous not only about him playing ball but his recovery in general.

[GreatBronco16]

And just last year he was laughing about how he doesn't wear a helmet. I bet you one of two things. He either never rides again while he is employeed in the NFL, or he goes in full body gear and doesn't driver over 35mph.

I hate seeing him being hurt and all, but seriously, he had this coming in a way.

[Garcia Bronco]

Steelers are reportedly trying to trade Ben Rothlisberger.

[Kaylore]

In defense of motorcycles and bike accidents, almost all the accidents are caused by other car drivers not seeing the guy on the bike. Liability insurance for a bike is the absolute cheapest insurance you can buy because statistically the bike driver is rarely at fault.

That said, it's still one of the most dangerous ways to get around.

[brncs_fan]

No, there is nothing wrong with riding a bike. I had a motorcycle license. Had being the key word there. Helmets do help your odds of survival, but tehy aren't a guarantee. I'm amazed that everyone doesn't wear them, but people are stupid. Just remember, even if you are wearing a helmet and have a protective jacket on, your life is still in danger.
Running into a 260 lb linebacker, even with full pads on, can be dangerous. I know 60+ year olds whol can barely walk from riding motorcycles for so long. I know just as many 40+ year olds who can barely walk from football injuries.

[Kaylore]

Steelers are reportedly trying to trade Ben Rothlisberger.
Hilarious!

[DomCasual]

Anyone got a link to some steeler fan boards? I'd like to see the steeler fan reaction to all of this.

I would expect they are really nervous not only about him playing ball but his recovery in general.
http://discuss.pittsburghlive.com/viewforum.php?f=2

[defenseman]

In defense of motorcycles and bike accidents, almost all the accidents are caused by other car drivers not seeing the guy on the bike. Liability insurance for a bike is the absolute cheapest insurance you can buy because statistically the bike driver is rarely at fault.

That said, it's still one of the most dangerous ways to get around.

Isn't that the truth. Had to lay down a Kawasaki 400 rung out on a 1/4 mile stretch when a truck pulled out. What a mess. Shortly thereafter, took a penton 125 off a cliff at a granite quarry (filled with water I might add) and lost the bike and got reasonably banged up. Never have been on a bike since then. .....dman

[Broncoman13]

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POSTED 2:58 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

BIG BEN NOT SO LUCKY AFTER ALL?

Minutes after we learned from a solid and credible league source that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is not expected to have any serious injuries after suffering a motorcycle accident on Monday morning, we were alerted to reports that Roethlisberger has suffered "serious" injuries to both of his knees.

Per the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which broke the story of the accident minutes after it happened, Roethlisberger has fractured his left sinus cavity bone, sustained a nine-inch gash to the back of his head, suffered injuries to both knees and a broken jaw, and he has lost either "most" or "several" of his teeth.

Our source on the "Ben got lucky" story told us he was operating on information that apparently has been superseded, and it's a sign of just how fluid and uncertain the situation has been.

If Ben's knees are seriously injured, his ability to play in 2006 will be significantly affected. So then the question becomes, what do the Steelers do to replace him?

Personally, we'd call Doug Flutie. He's a better option than any of the stiffs and retreads currently on the market. Alternatively, if there's a chance that Roethlisberger is gone for more than one season, we'd get the Falcons on the horn about a trade for Matt Schaub.

We're still digging for more details.

[DomCasual]

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POSTED 2:58 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

BIG BEN NOT SO LUCKY AFTER ALL?

Minutes after we learned from a solid and credible league source that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is not expected to have any serious injuries after suffering a motorcycle accident on Monday morning, we were alerted to reports that Roethlisberger has suffered "serious" injuries to both of his knees.

Per the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which broke the story of the accident minutes after it happened, Roethlisberger has fractured his left sinus cavity bone, sustained a nine-inch gash to the back of his head, suffered injuries to both knees and a broken jaw, and he has lost either "most" or "several" of his teeth.

Our source on the "Ben got lucky" story told us he was operating on information that apparently has been superseded, and it's a sign of just how fluid and uncertain the situation has been.

If Ben's knees are seriously injured, his ability to play in 2006 will be significantly affected. So then the question becomes, what do the Steelers do to replace him?

Personally, we'd call Doug Flutie. He's a better option than any of the stiffs and retreads currently on the market. Alternatively, if there's a chance that Roethlisberger is gone for more than one season, we'd get the Falcons on the horn about a trade for Matt Schaub.

We're still digging for more details.
Is this the Jets kid that reports from his dorm room? I hear the Abraham to Denver trade is still alive.

[Old Dude]

Ouch.

Poor guy must be in misery.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Hey Osk where did that come from? and that doesnt sound good either. You get hit hard enough to loose most of your teeth and that is one hell of a shot.

[12th man]

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POSTED 2:58 p.m. EDT, June 12, 2006

BIG BEN NOT SO LUCKY AFTER ALL?

Minutes after we learned from a solid and credible league source that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is not expected to have any serious injuries after suffering a motorcycle accident on Monday morning, we were alerted to reports that Roethlisberger has suffered "serious" injuries to both of his knees.

Per the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which broke the story of the accident minutes after it happened, Roethlisberger has fractured his left sinus cavity bone, sustained a nine-inch gash to the back of his head, suffered injuries to both knees and a broken jaw, and he has lost either "most" or "several" of his teeth.
Our source on the "Ben got lucky" story told us he was operating on information that apparently has been superseded, and it's a sign of just how fluid and uncertain the situation has been.

If Ben's knees are seriously injured, his ability to play in 2006 will be significantly affected. So then the question becomes, what do the Steelers do to replace him?

Personally, we'd call Doug Flutie. He's a better option than any of the stiffs and retreads currently on the market. Alternatively, if there's a chance that Roethlisberger is gone for more than one season, we'd get the Falcons on the horn about a trade for Matt Schaub.

We're still digging for more details.
wow! He got messed up. It's sad. I feel sorry for him.

[UKBronco]

A reason why PFT is nothing more than a crock of ****.

[El Guapo]

he was on mike&mike this morning too.. wow, this is horribly sad -- but he should've worn a helmet. I always do no matter how much flack I get.

[DeusExManning]

A reason why PFT is nothing more than a crock of ****.

They are quoting Pittsburgh Live

[Rascal]

So what do we ask for in return when we offer Plummer?

















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[yavoon]

he was on mike&mike this morning too.. wow, this is horribly sad -- but he should've worn a helmet. I always do no matter how much flack I get.

what idiots do u hang around that give u crap for wearing a helmet?

[bronco militia]

So what do we ask for in return when we offer Plummer?


















RASCAL RUNS AWAY

bwhahahaha!

Ha! :giggle:

[brncs_fan]

what idiots do u hang around that give u crap for wearing a helmet?
A lot of people don't like helmets. They think that any crash that can kill you will do it regardless of whether you are wearing a helmet or not. They also believe, and there has been a few reported cases of this happening, that helmets will actually decapitate you if you hit the pavement just right.

[Ballhawk]

Wow, I have been in two crashes myself and my girlfriend actually siad she would leave me if I got another bike. I don't tell her, but I do not really want another one as people out there scare the hell out of me. You can do everything right when riding and it wont mean a thing because some other drivers do not even act like you are on the road with them.

It is a shame about Big Ben, I really liked the way he played QB. Hope he recovers enough to continue playing but really he is lucky to be alive.

[yavoon]

A lot of people don't like helmets. They think that any crash that can kill you will do it regardless of whether you are wearing a helmet or not. They also believe, and there has been a few reported cases of this happening, that helmets will actually decapitate you if you hit the pavement just right.

its the old saying, u can't underestimate the stupidity of the public. man that is like stupidity piled on top of retardation.

[DomCasual]

Bronco fan here, offering you guys prayers on the injury to Big Ben!

[WABronco]

They are quoting Pittsburgh Live
Lol...pull your head outta your ass.

[DomCasual]

Bronco fan here, offering you guys prayers on the injury to Big Ben!
I saw a bunch of these on the Steelers messageboard. I always thought they were kind of stupid. But in case any of you like them, I didn't want you to feel left out.

[El Guapo]

what idiots do u hang around that give u crap for wearing a helmet?


None that I hang around with.. usually its from other random bikers.

[Taco John]

I have a hard time seeing bikes on the road. I've got excellent vision, but for some reason, my mind takes a second longer to process a motorbike than it would a car. As a result, I've almost pulled out in front of bikes at stop signs several times. I have to believe I'm not the only one who has this delayed reaction to bikes. Which is why I don't ride a bike. You have to put a lot of faith in other drivers to get on a bike.

[UKBronco]

They are quoting Pittsburgh Live

I was referring to them releasing their initial story based on a 'league source' - which to the casual reader might appear as if it has an element of truth to it, however when a more official story comes out - only then do you see how far off that guy is....again.

[watermock]

If weren't contenders and Cutler had a year under his belt and looked promising heck yea, I'd take a first for Jake. He might just be bruised up, but it's an erieie similiar "over the handle bars" type injury, those knees had to bounce off like hell. Broken knee cap, what ever, it's all speculation. The first thing they needed to do was start with his noggin in triage. I hope he's not as banged up as KW2.

[yavoon]

I have a hard time seeing bikes on the road. I've got excellent vision, but for some reason, my mind takes a second longer to process a motorbike than it would a car. As a result, I've almost pulled out in front of bikes at stop signs several times. I have to believe I'm not the only one who has this delayed reaction to bikes. Which is why I don't ride a bike. You have to put a lot of faith in other drivers to get on a bike.

also ppl aren't as intimidated by bikes so subconciously they dont do as much to avoid them. afterall in a car u can hit a bike and probably remain perfectly safe and call ur insurance company to fix ur car.

though to be fair to drivers, most motorcycle accidents are single vehicle. the rider is more dangerous to himself than other drivers are.

[Rascal]

You have to put a lot of faith in other drivers to get on a bike.

Yeap. I've ridden before in dirt tracks and what not but I refuse to ride on the road because of that very reason.

[broncsyanks]

dont wish that on anyone good luck ben get healthy

[Broncoman13]

A reason why PFT is nothing more than a crock of ****.


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By Jill King Greenwood and and Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, June 12, 2006


Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in serious but stable condition and in surgery this afternoon following a serious head injury this morning after his motorcycle collided with a car on Second Avenue near the 10th Street Bridge, police said.
Roethlisberger lost most of his teeth, fractured his left sinus cavity bone, suffered a nine-inch laceration to the back of his head and a broken jaw, and severely injured both of his knees when he hit the ground, police said.

A plastic surgeon has been summoned.

"He is right now in the (operating room) undergoing some surgery from injuries he received in this accident today," said Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma and burns at Mercy Hospital, Uptown. ... He was talking to me before he left for the OR. He's coherent. He's making sense. He knows what happened."





Roethlisberger, 24, who was not wearing a helmet, collided with a Chrysler New Yorker shortly before 11:25 a.m. and was thrown off his motorcycle, flying head-first into the car's windshield "with a pretty good force," said a veteran city police officer.

Roethlisberger was talking and moving his arms and legs after the accident. He suffered injuries to his face and lost several teeth, according to city firefighters.

The injured quarterback was taken to Mercy Hospital, said a Steelers spokesman, who declined to provide other information.

The car, which has Maine license plates, was heading west on Second Avenue and was turning left onto the 10th Street Bridge. Roethlisberger was driving east on Second Avenue riding a Suzuki Hayabusa and collided with the car at the intersection of the bridge and the Armstrong Tunnels.

Several teammates, including backup quarterback Charlie Batch, linebacker Joey Porter and safety Mike Logan, arrived at the hospital emergency room but did not comment. The team planned to issue a statement later Monday, but no one from the team would be made available, said spokesman Dave Lockett, who left the hospital at about 2:40 p.m.

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship this year, slammed into the windshield, rolled over the car and landed on the pavement, striking his head again, said a woman who witnessed the accident.

The witness, who declined to give her name, asked Roethlisberger several times if he was OK. He eventually replied, "My name is Ben."

He asked: "Where am I?"

"You're at the Armstrong Tunnel," the witness said.

"What city is that in?" he said.

"Pittsburgh," the woman replied.

Roethlisberger fell silent for about a minute and then tried to stand up.

"I'm OK," he said.

"No you're not," said the woman, who instructed him to stay still.

Pittsburgh homicide detectives are investigating the accident, which is standard procedure when critical injuries are involved, said city police Lt. Kevin Kraus.

Roethlisberger's 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa, which is named after a Japanese bird of prey, was totaled. The front wheel was broken in half. The handle bars were broken. The left pedal was shattered. The 170-horsepower bike, which weighs 500 pounds fully loaded, was targeted by law enforcement agencies worldwide after its 1998 debut because it could reach a top speed of 189 mph.

Suzuki Motorcycles of North America gave Roethlisberger the bike as part of a promotional deal in exchange for him appearing at several Suzuki dealerships in the area, including Andrews Cycle in Salem, Ohio where he picked up the motorcycle last summer. Andrews' sales staff declined comment.

The motorcycle is popular among first-time buyers, said Steve Stiller, a salesman at Northgate Motorcycles in Cranberry, Butler County.

Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.

"He talked about being a risktaker and I'm not really a risktaker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

In May 2005, Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. tore knee ligaments in a motorcycle accident and was lost for the season.

Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."

Earlier this year, Roethlisberger led the Steelers to the NFL title, giving the team the fifth Super Bowl win they had been chasing since 1980.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[DomCasual]

I thought about buying a mororcycle for awhile, but then I decided it would be a good idea to be around to raise my son.

The thing is, almost everyone has been in a fender bender at some point in their car. There just aren't fender benders when you are on a motorcycle. Whether it's your mistake or another driver's, motorcycle mishaps are serious business.

[Champ4prez]

only difference in wearing and not wearing a helmet is an open or closed casket..but anyways..who cares about this incident..ppl get into bike accidents everyday..ben r. wouldnt give a rats arse if you or i got paralyzed in a bike wreck..it is what it is..he should be in breach of contract for riding a bike anyways..riding a bike without a helmet..if i was the owner of Pitt..i'd be highly upset

[watermock]

I have a hard time seeing bikes on the road. I've got excellent vision, but for some reason, my mind takes a second longer to process a motorbike than it would a car. As a result, I've almost pulled out in front of bikes at stop signs several times. I have to believe I'm not the only one who has this delayed reaction to bikes. Which is why I don't ride a bike. You have to put a lot of faith in other drivers to get on a bike.

Not only that, those bikes can accellerate fast as hell and be on you before you know it. I'm sure many or all here have had a crotch rocket zip past you and you look at each other..."Where the hell did he come from?". I'm not saying Ben was driving reckless. That looked like a pretty complex intersecton to boot.

[TexanBob]

Any time you have head injuries, you have to give it time before deciding how serious it is. There is bound to be swelling, etc. so it won't be clear for a few days just how bad it may be.

Sounds like he's going to look like a linebacker now instead of a pretty-boy QB. Pittsburgh will just love him more for that.

[yavoon]

I thought about buying a mororcycle for awhile, but then I decided it would be a good idea to be around to raise my son.

The thing is, almost everyone has been in a fender bender at some point in their car. There just aren't fender benders when you are on a motorcycle. Whether it's your mistake or another driver's, motorcycle mishaps are serious business.

I've been down on a motorcycle multiple times, and I've stood up after all of them. just depends on what u do and how u fall.

[Arkansas Bronco]

With all they said happened his face must have been literaly crushed inward.

[Broncoman13]

Did I miss something??? When was Ben ever considered a "pretty boy QB"?

Dude looks like Kerry Collins with a beard... a neanderthal!

[yavoon]

Not only that, those bikes can accellerate fast as hell and be on you before you know it. I'm sure many or all here have had a crotch rocket zip past you and you look at each other..."Where the hell did he come from?". I'm not saying Ben was driving reckless. That looked like a pretty complex intersecton to boot.

yah motorcycles are amazingly fun:)

[DomCasual]

I've been down on a motorcycle multiple times, and I've stood up after all of them. just depends on what u do and how u fall.
Haven't seen you around for awhile, yavoon. Where've you been?

[yavoon]

Haven't seen you around for awhile, yavoon. Where've you been?

telling ppl how good michelle wie is:)

[brncs_fan]

Should have bought a cruiser Ben. Those racers will get you every time.

[Jason in LA]

I have a hard time seeing bikes on the road. I've got excellent vision, but for some reason, my mind takes a second longer to process a motorbike than it would a car. As a result, I've almost pulled out in front of bikes at stop signs several times. I have to believe I'm not the only one who has this delayed reaction to bikes. Which is why I don't ride a bike. You have to put a lot of faith in other drivers to get on a bike.

That's one thing I've wondered. I guess the driver of the car is at fault, but is it because the driver of the car is a bad driver, or are the bikes just hard to see?

[Arkansas Bronco]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2480830
Pretty good sized blood stains on the ground.

[DomCasual]

What's the over/under on Steelers wins this year? The under has to be a decent bet right about now.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Is this the Jets kid that reports from his dorm room? I hear the Abraham to Denver trade is still alive.
:) We need a class around here on how to post links to reference articles.

[Rascal]

Breaking your sinus cavity can cause a lot of problems also I believe.

Where is the good doctor when you need him?

[Arkansas Bronco]

Breaking your sinus cavity can cause a lot of problems also I believe.

Where is the good doctor when you need him?
Probably punching chief fans.

[DomCasual]

Breaking your sinus cavity can cause a lot of problems also I believe.

Where is the good doctor when you need him?
I stayed in a Holiday Inn Select last night.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

What's the over/under on Steelers wins this year? The under has to be a decent bet right about now.
I don't know but these numbers will be probably changing.


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[freak6]

So what do we ask for in return when we offer Plummer?
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Let's make a deal!!!

[Rascal]

Roethlisberger to keep riding motorcycle

NFL.com wire reports

PITTSBURGH (May 6, 2005) -- Despite Kellen Winslow 's accident and his own coach's admonition, Big Ben isn't hopping off his big bike just yet.


Ben Roethlisberger was lectured by Steelers coach Bill Cowher on the dangers of riding a motorcycle without a helmet -- as Roethlisberger has been spotted doing recently -- but the quarterback isn't ready to get off his $20,000 cycle.

"He talked about being a risk taker and I'm not really a risk taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said as the Steelers opened their minicamp. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

Asked why he doesn't wear a helmet -- something he wouldn't think about doing on a football field -- Roethlisberger pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended two years ago.

"Obviously Pennsylvania doesn't think people need to (wear a helmet)," he said. "There's a law you've got to wear it in football."

Steelers linebacker Joey Porter was surprised to hear the NFL offensive rookie of the year is taking such risks so soon after Winslow's accident. The Browns tight end, drafted five spots ahead of Roethlisberger last year, was injured May 1 when he flew off a newly purchased motorcycle after running into a parking lot curb.

"Some guys are real good on motorcycles and know what they're doing, but accidents happen," Porter said. "I can't knock the guy for doing it, but it's probably not the wisest thing to do. I don't own a bike because I don't trust them."

Porter occasionally gets on a Jet Ski, but he said that's different from steering a motorcycle through heavy traffic. Roethlisberger acknowledged many drivers become distracted when they see him riding, shouting or waving at him.

"If I fall off a Jet Ski, I hit the water, and I like my odds," Porter said. "I'm going to get wet. What I say about motorcycles is that concrete is undefeated."

Of course, Roethlisberger was, too, as a rookie, going 13-0 during the Steelers' team-record 15-1 regular season before losing to New England in the AFC championship game.

The Steelers are understandably cautious about combining a first-round draft choice and a high-speed vehicle. Gabe Rivera, the defensive lineman they chose instead of quarterback Dan Marino in the 1983 draft, was paralyzed after wrecking his sports car midway through his rookie season and hasn't walked since.

Many NFL contracts prohibit engaging in dangerous activities, but Roethlisberger's deal apparently doesn't specifically ban motorcycle riding.

Cowher didn't criticize Roethlisberger's riding, but is visibly uneasy with it.

"I certainly don't condone that," Cowher said. "It (playing pro football) is a very small time in your life and you've got to be very careful -- you can see it documented with Kellen Winslow in Cleveland. There are choices and consequences ... not just in riding motorcycles, but where you go and who you associate with. You have control over them but once you make your decision, they control you."

Meanwhile, all players reported to the minicamp, the formal start to the final month of the Steelers' offseason workouts. Most players will remain in town through mid-June for "coaching sessions," daily workouts that technically are voluntary but usually are fully attended.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/8449812

[OrangeShadow]

Were you at the Laconia Bike week rally ? I saw that 5 of those Bikers were killed on the ride up.

No i wasnt up there that weekend,good thing to.

[Nuggets4]

A lot of people don't like helmets. They think that any crash that can kill you will do it regardless of whether you are wearing a helmet or not. They also believe, and there has been a few reported cases of this happening, that helmets will actually decapitate you if you hit the pavement just right.

A lot of people are really ****ing stupid then.

[scrap]

A lot of people don't like helmets. They think that any crash that can kill you will do it regardless of whether you are wearing a helmet or not. They also believe, and there has been a few reported cases of this happening, that helmets will actually decapitate you if you hit the pavement just right.

I'm a Trauma Nurse at the Top Trauma Center in the world, and I can tell thats absolute lunacy
!

[BroncoBuff]

He did a header into a windshield ...

Broken jaw
Broken left sinus cavity
9-inch laceration to the back of his head
Lost most of his teeth
Injured both knees

... serious but stable condition.

[BroncoBuff]

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship this year, slammed into the windshield, rolled over the car and landed on the pavement, striking his head again, said a woman who witnessed the accident.

The witness, who declined to give her name, asked Roethlisberger several times if he was OK. He eventually replied, "My name is Ben."

He asked: "Where am I?"

"You're at the Armstrong Tunnel," the witness said.

"What city is that in?" he said.

"Pittsburgh," the woman replied.

Roethlisberger fell silent for about a minute and then tried to stand up.

"I'm OK," he said.

"No you're not," said the woman, who instructed him to stay still.

[BroncoBuff]

Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet when riding his motorcycle. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.

In May 2005, Steelers coach Bill Cowher lectured Roethlisberger on the dangers of riding without a helmet.

"He talked about being a risktaker and I'm not really a risktaker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."

Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."

[DomCasual]

A lot of people are really ****ing stupid then.
It's like someone saying, "I heard about his car accident where the car ended up in a river, and the driver couldn't get his seatbelt off, and so he drowned, and so seatbelts actually cause deaths, and... and..."

BWAH!

Or how about, "I actually am way more relaxed when I have a few drinks. I'm a better driver, because I am not so jittery!"

Arguments like these are clinically proven to make you stupid - just by listening to them. I'm serious - clinically proven!

[HEAV]

Ben went into surgery @ 2:30ish. He's expected to be in for 4 to 6 hours.

Knee injury is looking serious.

Ben was cutoff by one lady and rammed into the side of an elderly woman driving a Crysler. Speed was a factor. One witness said he went flying by and around a turn, once he went around the turn a loud crash was heard. Once the witness came up to the scene, they saw Ben laying on the ground covered in blood.

Reports have Steelers front office getting in contact with Tommy Maddox about a possible return. Maddox was leaning towards retiring and become a celeb/pro golfer.

I'll try to post when I get morte info.

[DomCasual]

Thanks, HEAV!

[PatsWin2002]

When Ben finally recovers from this I wonder how long it will take him to realize how selfish this was.....aside from being stupid.

I can just hear Cowher now, "I hate to say I told you so.....but I told you so."

[smalltowngrll]

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl championship this year, slammed into the windshield, rolled over the car and landed on the pavement, striking his head again, said a woman who witnessed the accident.

The witness, who declined to give her name, asked Roethlisberger several times if he was OK. He eventually replied, "My name is Ben."

He asked: "Where am I?"

"You're at the Armstrong Tunnel," the witness said.

"What city is that in?" he said.

"Pittsburgh," the woman replied.

Roethlisberger fell silent for about a minute and then tried to stand up.

"I'm OK," he said.

"No you're not," said the woman, who instructed him to stay still.

Those are all signs of a very seriuos concussion (uhhh...I know from unfortunate experience)

Even if everything else is alright...these types of concussions are ones that can recur with any type of slight bobble of the head. I would think that playing football might cause even more damage!

Hope he recovers fully and learns his lesson. Noone is invincible!

[ludo21]

Wow, really sucks for Big Ben.

I cant help but feel like, "thats what you get, you idiot".

Who doesnt wear helmets?? Kellen Winslow's incident comes to mind. I WILL NOT get on a bike w/out one.

Just caz "I am a pro QB" I cant get hurt. Hopefully this is a wake up call.

[footstepsfrom#27]

He did a header into a windshield ...

Broken jaw
Broken left sinus cavity
9-inch laceration to the back of his head
Lost most of his teeth
Injured both knees

... serious but stable condition.
Sound's like he'll probably be OK, but I wonder what kind of knee injuries he's got?

This morning I was coming through Grapevine Texas in the Dallas area when a kid on a crotch rocket went by me at over 100 mph...it was 5:00 am and hardly anyone else on the roads. 30 minutes later I came up to an overpass bridge on Hwy 121 and there were no less than 9 police cars lined up one after the other on the side of the road with lights blazing. Two cars were pulled over on the side of the bridge and this entire crowd of cops was in a circle doing something with somebody on the ground. I couldn't see what it was, maybe CPR...but I'm thinking this kid was possibly running from the cops and bought it on that bridge this morning.

I used to want one of these things. But like somebody said, it's best to be around to raise your kids.

[watermock]

Wow, I thought he had a cruiser, not a crotch rocket.

[Old Dude]

...Reports have Steelers front office getting in contact with Tommy Maddox about a possible return....

Now that sounds pretty dire.

[HEAV]

http://www.wpxi.com/video/9357945/index.html


Pittsburgh is freaking out

[UKBronco]

4 to 6 hour surgery sounds pretty severe. It's not exactly a clean up operation is it?

Any guesses as to what they are repairing? I guess it wouldn't be knees as they would be too swollen. Facial injuries i guess.

[UKBronco]

4 to 6 hour surgery sounds pretty severe. It's not exactly a clean up operation is it?

Any guesses as to what they are repairing? I guess it wouldn't be knees as they would be too swollen. Facial injuries i guess.

I just answered my own question!

Thanks UKB - REP! ;)

[Arkansas Bronco]

I can just hear Cowher now, "I hate to say I told you so.....but I told you so."
I bet he is so mad right now he cant even say I told you so.

[DomCasual]

Now that sounds pretty dire.
No kidding, OD. And it gets even worse if he turns them down.

Can you imagine the situation you're in if Tommy Maddox stays in retirement rather than taking your starting QB position? The emotional scars alone will count for 5-6 losses.

[watermock]

I think Winslow had a helmet, he was just vastly inexperienced and was showing off in a parking lot and hit a curb. It's toss up for stupidity. But let's lay that down for now. Let's just hope he isn't hurt that bad.

[ludo21]

http://www.wpxi.com/video/9357945/index.html


Pittsburgh is freaking out


Then watch the vid on the left about Helmets....... :clown:

"Its not a law"

Well it Fraking should be.

[BroncoBuff]

I bet he is so mad right now he cant even say I told you so.
Maybe if his knee injuries are bad enough to end his career, people will say, "even with a helmet, it would've ended his playing days."

[DeusExManning]

Lol...pull your head outta your ass.

Read the article who cares if it is PFW, it was not directly from them????

[HEAV]

Then watch the vid on the left about Helmets....... :clown:

"Its not a law"

Well it Fraking should be.


It was a law in PA until 2 years ago when it was changed. My buddies would love to come to Ohio and ride becuase back them Ohio didn't have a helmet law.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Maybe if his knee injuries are bad enough to end his career, people will say, "even with a helmet, it would've ended his playing days."
Oh without a doubt there is always someone that will put up a fight even if everything they are saying is complete horse crap.

[smalltowngrll]

No kidding, OD. And it gets even worse if he turns them down.

Can you imagine the situation you're in if Tommy Maddox stays in retirement rather than taking your starting QB position? The emotional scars alone will count for 5-6 losses.

And he'd have plenty of leverage to ask for lots of dough. They don't have much to work with...even in free agency! Unless a team out there is willing to give up one of their newly drafted QB's........NOT US!

[Nuggets4]

I bet he is so mad right now he cant even say I told you so.

I bet he's more concerned than angry right now.

[Ray Finkle]

jeez, it is a shame to hear that about anyone....I hope he is okay.

[Arkansas Bronco]

I bet he's more concerned than angry right now.
Oh without a doubt he is concerned and worried but his QB just flushed his season for him the anger will come.

[bendog]

4 to 6 hour surgery sounds pretty severe. It's not exactly a clean up operation is it?

Any guesses as to what they are repairing? I guess it wouldn't be knees as they would be too swollen. Facial injuries i guess.
He was already pretty ugly, but let's hope he doesn't come out looking like Hank Williams Jr. yeah, I know it's wikpedia so maybe the pics a fake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Williams_Jr.

seriously, I hope the guy's alright. Brady and Manning are damn boring.

And Cower prolly feels a roid rage brewing up his central nervous system

[alkemical]

the chin is chompin

[shakenbake]

Here is they type of bike Big Ben rides. Its the suzuki Hyayabusa. It is the fastest production bike made. Also check out this guy on google video riding a hayabusa.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/GSX1300RK6/Default.aspx
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6362400596406421511&q=hayabusa

[DomCasual]

Here is they type of bike Big Ben rides. Its the suzuki Hyayabusa. It is the fastest production bike made. Also check out this guy on google video riding a hayabusa.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/GSX1300RK6/Default.aspx
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6362400596406421511&q=hayabusa
Wow. That is insane.

[Master___Pain]

Also check out this guy on google video riding a hayabusa.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6362400596406421511&q=hayabusa
Ho-ly Sh!t

[cabronco]

Oh without a doubt he is concerned and worried but his QB just flushed his season for him the anger will come.

No doubt that Cowher is concerned about Big Ben, but once Ben recoops, Cowher's gonna knock him azz back into the emergency room !

[alkemical]

Rothlesburger rides a bunch of different bikes, he has a few custom cruiser bikes too

[UKBronco]

Ho-ly Sh!t

Part of me is saying those numbers can't possibly be in MPH......tell me it aint so!

Christ......

[Master___Pain]

Rothlesburger rides a bunch of different bikes, he has a few custom cruiser bikes too

I don't doubt it, but that bike that shakenbake posted was the one he got hit on today. Not that the type of bike would have mattered much

[shakenbake]

That video is insane.

[alkemical]

no it can get up to about 200mph

[watermock]

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/photos/2006-06-12/0612benaccident4-a.jpg

He's damn lucky his head didn't hit the A frame on the side of the windshield. That is essentially part of the roll cage. It was a million times better his head hit the windshield, believe it or not, relatively speaking. The A-frame would of cracked his head like an egg.

[TheDave]

Saw on one of the steeler boards that Adam Schefter was on the NFL Network claiming that the knee injuries don't seem to be serious (sprain and lacerations) and that he should be on the field in time for the season opener...

[elsid13]

http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20060613sm_benwreck02_300.jpg

Didn't see the pics of the accident

From the http://www.post-gazette.com/

[Mile High Shack]

Saw on one of the steeler boards that Adam Schefter was on the NFL Network claiming that the knee injuries don't seem to be serious (sprain and lacerations) and that he should be on the field in time for the season opener...

if that is the case, he is lucky

he's actually lucky to be alive

guess he won't need a mouth piece anymore since he doesn't have any more teeth
lol

[TheDave]

if that is the case, he is lucky

he's actually lucky to be alive

guess he won't need a mouth piece anymore since he doesn't have any more teeth
lol

Right now everything is just speculation... but if his jaw/teeth are really that bad Bed could easily weigh about 150lbs on opening day

[Master___Pain]

Right now everything is just speculation... but if his jaw/teeth are really that bad Bed could easily weigh about 150lbs on opening day

No kidding. The fractured/shattered sinus should be a big concern too. My cousin had his shattered in 2001 and has had a dozen + surgeries to correct the sinus cavity and his breathing.

[smalltowngrll]

No kidding. The fractured/shattered sinus should be a big concern too. My cousin had his shattered in 2001 and has had a dozen + surgeries to correct the sinus cavity and his breathing.

Not to mention this could really screw up his equilibrium.

[DomCasual]

Not to mention this could really screw up his equilibrium.
and hurt like a summabeech!

[Hulamau]

ESPN just reported Ben has a broken Jaw. Lost many teeth and a broken nose and head injury.

But the most serious injuires are "severe injuries to both knees from landing on" them after hitting the windsheild as well as other lacerations.\
No dobut he has a serious concussion on top of all that at the ver yleast.

In other words, he's probably cooked for this season at least.

I'm sorry for his injuries, but also pissed that the guy so arrogantly ignored all the pleas and warnings after Winlsow last year and his coach and Bradshaw trying to talk some sense into him.

However, in a way if this FINALLY gets through to other simliar self-centered MORONS who have a whole team's fortunes and city worth of fan's hopes and dreams counting on him NOT to idiotically dare fate, then so be it!

Think about how we would feel if Champ Bailey just did that ... Or Plummer for that matter although we've got a lot more potential behind Plummer than the Steelers do at backup QB

[Sassy]

I hope it isnt life threatening. Seriously. But I dont see why Men getting paid millions cant hold off on the bikes till they retire. He should have taken note from KW2.
:(
Exactly what one of my parents (The Steeler Fan) said today.

Get well soon, Ben!

[clint7]

I guess opening the season at Pittsburgh wouldn't have been such a bad thing afterall.

[Garcia Bronco]

I guess opening the season at Pittsburgh wouldn't have been such a bad thing afterall.


Holy ****e....after all this I had forgot that. Dang.

[27atwater]

dumbass. as a human, I hope he's OK. As a person w/ common sense, he deserves to lose all his feeling in his left side. No helmet...dumbass!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

dumbass. as a human, I hope he's OK. As a person w/ common sense, he deserves to lose all his feeling in his left side. No helmet...dumbass!

Oh yeah, he should burn in hell for getting in a wreck. ::)

[Lev Vyvanse]

dumbass. as a human, I hope he's OK. As a person w/ common sense, he deserves to lose all his feeling in his left side. No helmet...dumbass!

Yea and everyone that has ever had unprotected sex deserves to get AIDS. He’s just 24 give him a break you prick.

[spdirty]

Dont feel like rummaging through 10 pages, but it looks like the NFL Head Coach cover curse has just begun boys.

[Broncoman13]

Here is they type of bike Big Ben rides. Its the suzuki Hyayabusa. It is the fastest production bike made. Also check out this guy on google video riding a hayabusa.
http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/GSX1300RK6/Default.aspx
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6362400596406421511&q=hayabusa


Gotta raise the BULLSHIAT flag on that video. Nobody rides a wheelie going 160mph and that bike won't go 210+mph... not stock anyhow.

[Garcia Bronco]

Gotta raise the BULLSHIAT flag on that video. Nobody rides a wheelie going 160mph and that bike won't go 210+mph... not stock anyhow.


It's advertised as the fastest legal bike.

[Broncoman13]

I realize that, and with top speeds of 189 mph it has cops all over the country very concerned... this bike cruised through 189 mph at the same rate it cruised through 100 mph... not buying it, though I would certainly believe that was a real video if it were in Km/h.

[Taco John]

So you think they doctored the video?

[Garcia Bronco]

I realize that, and with top speeds of 189 mph it has cops all over the country very concerned... this bike cruised through 189 mph at the same rate it cruised through 100 mph... not buying it, though I would certainly believe that was a real video if it were in Km/h.

It's all BMF technology.

[Hogan11]

I'm not sifting through 10 + pages either....Just sending the wishes out that he'll be alright.

I messed myself up good on a minibike when I was a kid....it cured me of the motorcycle thing for life.

[27atwater]

Yea and everyone that has ever had unprotected sex deserves to get AIDS. He’s just 24 give him a break you prick.


whatever. he's a dumb**** for doing it and ya all know it. I hardly think that "only being 24" is an excuse for his stupidity. After what happened to Winslow, you'd think they would all be a scoche more safe. der...guess not. If I'm a prick, so be it.

and as for the AIDS thing, they wouldn't necessarily deserve AIDS, but shouldn't cry if they get it.

[Broncoman13]

No, I think that's a turbo equipped bike. The stock bike is rated at 189 mph top speed. I can buy a 4-5 mph variance, but 30+ mph difference... NO WAY!

The turbo's add up to another 8 lbs of boost giving the bike over 300 hp at the rear wheel. THAT'S INSANE! Also, if you watch that video again he was gaining speed like crazy even through the 200-220mph range. Also not likely unless the bike was equipped with some sort of NOS or Turbo.

[Conklin]

Gotta raise the BULLSHIAT flag on that video. Nobody rides a wheelie going 160mph and that bike won't go 210+mph... not stock anyhow.

the vid is true, i can't recall the guy's username from the busa boards, but he has posted numerous vids of his bikes and various stunts as shown, the bike is a complete monster and it DOES have a turbocharger. if i get the chance later, i'll try and get ya a link to his site/bike

[shakenbake]

I cant vouch for validity of the video. I have heard that stock they will do about 200mph. Either way its a bad ass bike, not really a cruiser.

[Broncoman13]

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/suzuki/suzuki-hayabusa-1300-ar1857.html

Shows the top speed at 193 mph.

The bike in that video had to have a turbo... still, it was freakish fast and I'd have to think twice before grabbing a handful of throttle!

[gunns]

whatever. he's a dumb**** for doing it and ya all know it. I hardly think that "only being 24" is an excuse for his stupidity. After what happened to Winslow, you'd think they would all be a scoche more safe. der...guess not. If I'm a prick, so be it.

and as for the AIDS thing, they wouldn't necessarily deserve AIDS, but shouldn't cry if they get it.

Damn I love these "holier than thou, I've never done anything even remotely stupid" posts. Here comes the judge........

Hoping Ben makes a quick and complete recovery.

[Conklin]

btw, for more pics/vids of that busa doin the wheelie, search for ghost rider and hayabusa

[Broncoman13]

the vid is true, i can't recall the guy's username from the busa boards, but he has posted numerous vids of his bikes and various stunts as shown, the bike is a complete monster and it DOES have a turbocharger. if i get the chance later, i'll try and get ya a link to his site/bike


I buy that 100% Turbocharged I bet they can get those bikes into the 240 mph range. I bet they can make 400+ hp!

[Broncoman13]

GSXR's (Jix-errrr) have always been incredibly fast bikes... Definately not a cruiser. We have some great quiet roads out here... but I don't ride anymore.

[shakenbake]

he only holds the wheelie till 130mph. I could do that all day.

[Bronco Yoda]

Hope he recovers. A friends wife lost her life on the 55 fwy. riding her bike. I wonder if Ben thinks twice about wearing a helmet next time.

[Lev Vyvanse]

whatever. he's a dumb**** for doing it and ya all know it. I hardly think that "only being 24" is an excuse for his stupidity. After what happened to Winslow, you'd think they would all be a scoche more safe. der...guess not. If I'm a prick, so be it.

and as for the AIDS thing, they wouldn't necessarily deserve AIDS, but shouldn't cry if they get it.

You said he deserved to be paralyzed. Many people do dumb things everyday that doesn’t mean they deserve horrible things to happen to them. Who is crying? Ya prick.

[Broncoman13]

he only holds the wheelie till 130mph. I could do that all day.


140 and there's no way I'd ever attempt that! Riding it wouldn't be a problem, dropping the nose down could be!

[TheDave]

I buy that 100% Turbocharged I bet they can get those bikes into the 240 mph range. I bet they can make 400+ hp!


According to one of his videos it's putting out 499... Not sure if that's real or not. If seen some of these tuners hit the 500 hp mark before... any guess how long that grenade holds together

[27atwater]

Damn I love these "holier than thou, I've never done anything even remotely stupid" posts. Here comes the judge........

Hoping Ben makes a quick and complete recovery.


never said that. but what I will say is that when i grew up and realized I had more to lose, I did become more careful. No more 110 on the freeway. No more tressel jumping, etc. He is a multimillion $$$ QB who is adored by thousand of steeler fans and who has an obligation to be there for said fans who get raped by the team for seating licenses, $8 beers and the such. It was a stupid move on his part, no matter how much ya wanna deflect to me.

[27atwater]

You said he deserved to be paralyzed. Many people do dumb things everyday that doesn’t mean they deserve horrible things to happen to them. Who is crying? Ya prick.


I said I hope he is well...if ya read the post. I also pointed out that the possible reprocussions would be EARNED.