SI.Com - Q.B.'s on the hotseat #1 is Jake

[Cool Breeze]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0606/gallery.qbhotlist/content.1.html?cnn=yes

[Cool Breeze]

I would think S.D. is getting warm. No mention there.

[Clockwork Orange]

Big whoop. He was #1 on the hot seat last year too and he responded pretty well.

But hey, the media loves a QB controversy.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

What a great photo. Such a spaz. ROFL!

[Taco John]

I would think S.D. is getting warm. No mention there.


I don't think Phillip Rivers has anything to worry about for a few years.

[Clockwork Orange]

What a great photo. Such a spaz. ROFL!

Somehow that doesn't stop you from being in love with him. :rofl:

[brncs_fan]

Their frst two should be the last two on that list. Using the players they listed, my list would look something like this:

1. Kurt Warner
2. Rex Grossman
3. Mark Brunell
4. Billy Volek
5. David Carr
6. Byron Leftwich
7. Aaron Brooks
8. Jake Plummer

In order to truly be on the hotseat, you have to have someone waiting in the wings. That really isn't the case with the last four (yes, that includes Plummer).

[brncs_fan]

"..there are whispers that the team isn't thrilled with him and that first-round pick Jay Cutler is the future of the franchise."

I love this quote. One of the reasons that you draft QB's in the first round for the first time in 10+ years is to make him your future franchise QB. :dummy:

[12th man]

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Jake Plummer
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What a crock. I have not seen anything that says the team isn't thrilled with jake. I have lost all respect now for SI. Yes Jay is the future but plummer is not on the hot seat this year.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I have not seen anything that says the team isn't thrilled with jake.

ROFL!

You drafted a QB.

[brncs_fan]

You drafted a QB.
So the Chiefs are unhappy with Green and Croyle is going to start this year?

[SureShot]

ROFL!

You drafted a QB.

So did you.Hilarious!

[12th man]

ROFL!

You drafted a QB.
For the future Dumbass! you have comprehension problems.

[Sassy]

ROFL!

You drafted a QB.
Which Shanny says likely will take 2-3 years to develop.

[Sassy]

4 posts at 9:29 all giving Bob grief! Ha!

[Clockwork Orange]

So the Chiefs are unhappy with Green and Croyle is going to start this year?

The difference there is that Cutler is expected to be a starting QB in this league while Frayle is expected to make a career out of holding a clipboard if he can manage to do that without injuring himself.

[SureShot]

4 posts at 9:29 all giving Bob grief! Ha!

And he says hes not here that much. His green light is on more than Motel 6.

[fdf]

From the article: "Assuming he can stay healthy, Grossman will be the Bears' starter, but he'll have to hold off Brian Griese and, to a lesser extent, Kyle Orton."

He must really be feeling the heat. Griese has such a hot hand. And his arm is unbelievable.

[MechanicalBull]

In order to truly be on the hotseat, you have to have someone waiting in the wings. That really isn't the case with the last four (yes, that includes Plummer).

I would have to agree. If Cutler isn't ready to play ala Aaron Rodgers then Plummer will not be on the hot seat same goes for Warner and Volek. Shouldn't that Peyton guy be on the list? I mean how many times can the guy buckle under pressure and not advance to the big game. Let Jim Sorgi finally have his shot.;D

[smalltowngrll]

What a great photo. Such a spaz. ROFL!

Naaa....such a hottie!! :wiggle:

[BroncoBuff]

I would think S.D. is getting warm. No mention there.
He has a freebie this year imo. Rivers is maybe on the LEAST hot seat in the league ....

[Jesterhole]

Depends on how fast Cutler picks up the offense. I don't see Shanahan being afraid to put him in if he thinks he can run the plays.

[RhymesayersDU]

I would actually argue that there is a hot seat in San Diego, it just isn't Rivers'. Whoever made the decision to trade Brees, whether it be the coach, gm, etc could potentially be on the hot seat if Rivers doesn't pan out. Perhaps there will be a free pass for this season all around, but if Rivers doesn't pan out next year, heads could roll for trading Brees.

[JPEZ]

Jake sucks! He's been nothing but trouble.
As long as Jake is "pulling the trigger" we will never win the Super Bowl!

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/012306drew.gif

[Bob's your Information Minister]

So did you.Hilarious!

So the Chiefs are unhappy with Green and Croyle is going to start this year?


Not in the FIRST ROUND. When you draft a QB in the first round, you're sending a message to your current starter.

Green is 36.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The difference there is that Cutler is expected to be a starting QB in this league while Frayle is expected to make a career out of holding a clipboard if he can manage to do that without injuring himself.

Bullcrap. Croyle is going to be expected to compete for a starting job once Green retires.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Not in the FIRST ROUND. When you draft a QB in the first round, you're sending a message to your current starter.

Green is 36.

And the rest of your squaws are also ancient. Get ready for the fall. You'll be hopping on the Bronco bandwagon soon.

BTW - Post 6666 - just for the squaws

[Florida_Bronco]

Not in the FIRST ROUND. When you draft a QB in the first round, you're sending a message to your current starter.

Green is 36.

Jake is what...31 now? If Cutler takes 3 years to develop, Jake will be 34 at that time.

Ideally, I would have rather got the QB of the future in another year or 2, but Cutler was too good a prospect to pass up.

[Garcia Bronco]

1 of 9
Jake Plummer
Broncos

<STYLE>.cnnGalleryRightRail {padding-left:5px;}</STYLE><TABLE class=cnnGalleryRightRail cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=170 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD>He had a strong 2005 season but couldn't get the job done against the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game. Although he's clearly No. 1, there are whispers that the team isn't thrilled with him and that first-round pick Jay Cutler is the future of the franchise. If the Broncos struggle, they may turn to the future sooner than expected.
Photo: Damian Strohmeyer
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What a crock. I have not seen anything that says the team isn't thrilled with jake. I have lost all respect now for SI. Yes Jay is the future but plummer is not on the hot seat this year.
You mean you didn't lose all respect for them when they said we were finshed on the cover?

[BigPlayShay]

Green is 36.

He should still be feeling the heat, especially since his wittle daddy retired and isn't there to hug him anymore.

[Kaylore]

I think puting Volek on that list is unfair. He's just a place holder, but has a unique opportunity. If he really plays well and shows he can get the job done he could get signed by a team that needs help at QB and get a nice contract.

I do agree that Warner, Brunell and Brooks are all on their last legs and it's now or never again. Rex Grossman seems to be more about durability than anything else.

Carr doesn't seem to have the kind of competitive attitude that will win you games. He seems so passive and whiney.

I don't think Byron Leftwhich is going go bad on the Jags. He's a good Quarterback.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

He should still be feeling the heat, especially since his wittle daddy retired and isn't there to hug him anymore.

Maybe if Shanahan hugged Plummer more he might play better. :(

[Clockwork Orange]

Maybe if Shanahan hugged Plummer more he might play better. :(

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

[Vegas_Bronco]

The depth of analysis once again by SI just ISN'T. Jake and Brunell are the only decent qb's in the whole rotation - gimme a break!

[Vegas_Bronco]

Maybe if Shanahan hugged Plummer more he might play better. :(

Or maybe he should cry for him? I know I would play really well if Shanny had his hands up my azz controlling every move I made. Last thing Jake needs is a hug, but if your into man on man I guess your wants are very different from just having hands up...

[NOLA Bronco]

Maybe the Chiefs should have wiggled their way towards the top to get a QB. It's not like Trent Green is leading KC to the playoffs every year....

[Florida_Bronco]

Carr doesn't seem to have the kind of competitive attitude that will win you games. He seems so passive and whiney.

To be fair, I'd probably be drained of all competitive spirit and whine alot too if I had an offense line that did it's best to make sure I was killed every week.

[ZachKC]

Jake is what...31 now? If Cutler takes 3 years to develop, Jake will be 34 at that time.

Ideally, I would have rather got the QB of the future in another year or 2, but Cutler was too good a prospect to pass up.
3 more years of Plummer.

Denver's organization isn't that stupid.

[ZachKC]

The utler pick is a great one...great steal for the Broncos but I feel like you folks that think this isn't going to cause problems this year are nieve.

People love to roll over on Jake Plummer. Denver fans seem to race eachother to be the one who throws him under the bus. It is a situation that is unfair even though his play put him there. The love of Cutler and the average fan's inability to put things in perspective in the long run is going to boil up the second Plummer has a sub par day.

There were times when people were wanting backup QBs to get a chance in Denver that were nowhere near ready for primetime and now you have a potential stud on deck?

Support for Plummer will fold so fast with this fan base as hungry as it is with the expectations that they have.

It will be pretty interesting...

[SoCalBronco]

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

Don't hold your breath, CO.

After all, Bob is the same guy who very recently said that "Jay Cutler's got a great ass".

[Rausch]

I would think S.D. is getting warm. No mention there.

That would put the SD front office on the hot seat, not Rivers. Hell, if he shows any talent at all he'll be allowed to suck with 3 teams before he's picking oranges with Elvis Girbac and Bubby Brister...

[SoCalBronco]

That would put the SD front office on the hot seat, not Rivers. Hell, if he shows any talent at all he'll be allowed to suck with 3 teams before he's picking oranges with Elvis Girbac and Bubby Brister...

There's a gleam, Philip. Go get the gleam.

[phisig150]

He'll finally get some this year when he wins the SB... then the QB controversy will begin. :oyvey:

[doof]

Short interview with Cutler, "the quarterback of the future:"

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_story_159204303.html

[Kaylore]

Short interview with Cutler, "the quarterback of the future:"

http://cbs4denver.com/topstories/local_story_159204303.html
Thanks. That site has raw footage of the team camp too!:thumbsup:

[Bronco Yoda]

You mean you didn't lose all respect for them when they said we were finshed on the cover?

I DID!

Infact I cancelled my S.I. subscription wrote them an F.O. letter and have never renewed.

Man that's been years now. Guess I'm stubborn that way. :giggle:

Sure I still buy a mag here and there when it's good but they lost my automatic check each year. Just as well with the internet now.

[orange crusher]

The utler pick is a great one...great steal for the Broncos but I feel like you folks that think this isn't going to cause problems this year are nieve.

People love to roll over on Jake Plummer. Denver fans seem to race eachother to be the one who throws him under the bus. It is a situation that is unfair even though his play put him there. The love of Cutler and the average fan's inability to put things in perspective in the long run is going to boil up the second Plummer has a sub par day.

There were times when people were wanting backup QBs to get a chance in Denver that were nowhere near ready for primetime and now you have a potential stud on deck?

Support for Plummer will fold so fast with this fan base as hungry as it is with the expectations that they have.

It will be pretty interesting...

Last I checked the fanbase wasn't running the organization.

[doof]

Thanks. That site has raw footage of the team camp too!:thumbsup:

Hmm, I didn't even notice that. Thanks for the heads up.

[ZachKC]

Last I checked the fanbase wasn't running the organization.
You think if the situation panned out like I described above it wouldn't have a huge negative impact on the team?

What a horrible distraction for a team and a key player...

[orange crusher]

You think if the situation panned out like I described above it wouldn't have a huge negative impact on the team?

What a horrible distraction for a team and a key player...

I don't disagree that some fans will be quick to call for Jake's head. I just don't think Mike will let it be a distraction. Jake seems to have the respect of his teammates and I think they know who puts them in the best position to win this year so I don't see it being a distraction with them either.

[ZachKC]

I don't disagree that some fans will be quick to call for Jake's head. I just don't think Mike will let it be a distraction. Jake seems to have the respect of his teammates and I think they know who puts them in the best position to win this year so I don't see it being a distraction with them either.
I think you underestimate the power of a passionate fan base.

[Kaylore]

I think you underestimate the power of a passionate fan base.
If Carl Peterson doesn't care, why would Shanahan?

[ZachKC]

If Carl Peterson doesn't care, why would Shanahan?
Disagreement over things like player personel moves and draft things are a totally different monster.

Anger over a player...while he is playing at the helm of your team?

I don't think you can put the two together.

[Kaylore]

Disagreement over things like player personel moves and draft things are a totally different monster.

Anger over a player...while he is playing at the helm of your team?

I don't think you can put the two together. Shanahan will never put Jay Cutler in "because the fans are mad". He won't do anything unless he thinks it will help the Broncos win.

[watermock]

Most of the fan base might be passionate, but they aren't stupid. I haven't heard ONE poster here thinking Cutler should be starting for at LEAST a year or more. It's the media that wants to drum up controversy.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Grossman cant stay active long enough to be on the hot-seat.

[BroncoBen]

"..there are whispers that the team isn't thrilled with him and that first-round pick Jay Cutler is the future of the franchise."

I love this quote. One of the reasons that you draft QB's in the first round for the first time in 10+ years is to make him your future franchise QB. :dummy:

I almost choked on my coffee after reading this line (..there are whispers...)..I agreee you don't draft a QB that high if he is not the future.

When the Broncos drafted Tommy Maddox back in 92' it was Dan Reeves intention that he would be the future, replacing Elway.
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[27atwater]

I honestly think Cutler gets the ball in 2007 if we don't make it to the Title game again. Jake is fine for now, but if we take a step back, Shanny won't hesitate to let Jay develop w/ Javon, Scheff, Watts and baby TO in 07. That being siad, I think we remain very competitive and I think Jake has 2 years left in Denver. NO WAY Jay is even considered this year unless Jake gets hurt.

[Garcia Bronco]

I DID!

Infact I cancelled my S.I. subscription wrote them an F.O. letter and have never renewed.

Man that's been years now. Guess I'm stubborn that way. :giggle:

Sure I still buy a mag here and there when it's good but they lost my automatic check each year. Just as well with the internet now.

No it's not. They kicked us when we were down.....extra hard.

[Garcia Bronco]

I honestly think Cutler gets the ball in 2007 if we don't make it to the Title game again. Jake is fine for now, but if we take a step back, Shanny won't hesitate to let Jay develop w/ Javon, Scheff, Watts and baby TO in 07. That being siad, I think we remain very competitive and I think Jake has 2 years left in Denver. NO WAY Jay is even considered this year unless Jake gets hurt.

I think the field will settle it's self.

[Cito Pelon]

Myself, I want to see what Jake can do with an upgraded receiver corps, and I'm thinking also an upgraded O-line. I bet Shanny was thinking the same thing.

People forget Jake has been a starter for every single snap of this his 10th year. QB's that take every snap last about 12 years, 13 is pushing it. It wasn't necessarily a knock on Jake to draft Cutler. Jake's body probably has 3 more years at most left in it as a starter. He's going to be hit many, many, many times in the next 2-3 years, and even if he wins B2B's, he may want to hang up the cleats. Jake was the starter from week one in AZ, and set an NFL record in his rookie season for being sacked. Elway only played halves of games his rookie season. DeBerg would start, then Elway would come in.

[watermock]

I can't remember a particuliarly hard hit on Jake at all last year. What did we give up...15? Who's to say that if and when, likely when, Jay takes the helm that Jake has to retire? I think he will still have trade value honestly, or we might just give him his release. We are way ahead of ourselves here. To assert that Jake has 2 or 3 years left, that might be HERE, but not in the NFL.

[Cito Pelon]

Jake is actually a pretty good QB. Shanny didn't go get Walker/Marshall/Sheffler for Cutler to throw to, he got them for Jake to throw to. Jake is not on "the hotseat". If everything pans out as Shanny & Co. plan, then I'll be living in B2B2B Championshipville, and then Jake can retire or whatever, because at that point he's gonna be a hurtin' dude. A QB that has started for 12-13 years has always been one hurtin' dude, and that's a fact.

[Kaylore]

Jake is actually a pretty good QB. Shanny didn't go get Walker/Marshall/Sheffler for Cutler to throw to, he got them for Jake to throw to. Jake is not on "the hotseat". If everything pans out as Shanny & Co. plan, then I'll be living in B2B2B Championshipville, and then Jake can retire or whatever, because at that point he's gonna be a hurtin' dude. A QB that has started for 12-13 years has always been one hurtin' dude, and that's a fact.
Those are some good points. The only thing I would point out is that Plummer is one of the most durable Quarterbacks in the NFL. He never gets hurt and has been hit more than most other QB's in the league. That kind of toughness has got to translate into a longer career.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Plummer is one of the most durable Quarterbacks in the NFL. He never gets hurt.

Except when he gets up off his couch.... Ha!

[azbroncfan]

Myself, I want to see what Jake can do with an upgraded receiver corps, and I'm thinking also an upgraded O-line. I bet Shanny was thinking the same thing.

People forget Jake has been a starter for every single snap of this his 10th year. QB's that take every snap last about 12 years, 13 is pushing it. It wasn't necessarily a knock on Jake to draft Cutler. Jake's body probably has 3 more years at most left in it as a starter. He's going to be hit many, many, many times in the next 2-3 years, and even if he wins B2B's, he may want to hang up the cleats. Jake was the starter from week one in AZ, and set an NFL record in his rookie season for being sacked. Elway only played halves of games his rookie season. DeBerg would start, then Elway would come in.

You are a little off here, jake didn't start right away, he came in relief against eagles and looked great and was starter for then on, he also missed couple games one year in AZ and 2003 in Denver but he is a very durable QB.

[elsid13]

Shanahan will never put Jay Cutler in "because the fans are mad". He won't do anything unless he thinks it will help the Broncos win.


That exactly right. Take the case of BB and SOB. SOB started because Shanahan felt that he knew the offense and reads better then Buddy. Shanahan doesn't give a crap about the fan base, he cares about winning.

[Pat Bowlen]

I DID!

Infact I cancelled my S.I. subscription wrote them an F.O. letter and have never renewed.

Man that's been years now. Guess I'm stubborn that way. :giggle:

Sure I still buy a mag here and there when it's good but they lost my automatic check each year. Just as well with the internet now.
I think it's a little extreme to get that upset over negative press. It's the press, that's what it does.

Example: http://dynamic.si.cnn.com/si_online/covers/issues/1998/1130.html

[Cito Pelon]

Those are some good points. The only thing I would point out is that Plummer is one of the most durable Quarterbacks in the NFL. He never gets hurt and has been hit more than most other QB's in the league. That kind of toughness has got to translate into a longer career.

With all due repect my friend, bo sheet. Name the QB's that have started for 12-15 years. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Marino. Tarkenton? 10 years. Bradshaw? 10 years. Staubach? 10 years. Montana? 11 years. This is a tough profession, you start, you take every snap for 12 years and you're in stud territory.

[Cito Pelon]

You are a little off here, jake didn't start right away, he came in relief against eagles and looked great and was starter for then on, he also missed couple games one year in AZ and 2003 in Denver but he is a very durable QB.

Sure, maybe a little bit off but the point is the guy has taken tons of snaps, I don't know his total, but it has to be right up there in the top 15-20 ever. He's gonna hang up the cleats in 4 years max. So drafting Cutler was not a slap at Jake. It was just a smart pick.

[Swedish Extrovert]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0606/gallery.qbhotlist/content.1.html?cnn=yes


Why is Leftwich #7?

All you here about down here is the Jacksonville QB contriversey... I guess that means that its a bigger deal in Denver?

[BroncoBuff]

With all due repect my friend, bo sheet. Name the QB's that have started for 12-15 years. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Marino. Tarkenton? 10 years. Bradshaw? 10 years. Staubach? 10 years. Montana? 11 years. This is a tough profession, you start, you take every snap for 12 years and you're in stud territory.
Jake is tough as nails, no doubt - but let's not get ahead of ourselves with such comparisons.

Where would Jake be had Shanny not shown faith and took him under his wing?

I seriously doubt he'd be a starter, and theres a chance he's not even in the league ... Arizona was letting him go. Arizona!

[Natedog24]

Why is anyone taking what SI has to say seriously...

[watermock]

Originally Posted by Cito Pelon
With all due repect my friend, bo sheet. Name the QB's that have started for 12-15 years. Elway, Marino, Unitas, Marino. Tarkenton? 10 years. Bradshaw? 10 years. Staubach? 10 years. Montana? 11 years. This is a tough profession, you start, you take every snap for 12 years and you're in stud territory.

Jake is tough as nails, no doubt - but let's not get ahead of ourselves with such comparisons.

Where would Jake be had Shanny not shown faith and took him under his wing?

I seriously doubt he'd be a starter, and theres a chance he's not even in the league ... Arizona was letting him go. Arizona!

Plummer has played 9 years with only minor injuries. WTF are you talking about? This year will be Jake's 10th as a starter.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1003

[watermock]

Why is anyone taking what SI has to say seriously...

That's the most pathetic rag in the world. The whole thing is plastered with ads and it doesn't concentrate at all. Buy this issue, it's going to be all full of the World Cup. I haven't even bothered to go thu the Swimsuit issue and it was free.

[Spider]

What a great photo. Such a spaz. ROFL!
I bet it does remind you of the way you throw your dice at the D&D game