Who's the most fragile player in MLB?

[Smelvin]

I say it's Rich "DL" Harden.

Jun 8 ESPN.com reports Oakland Athletics SP Rich Harden (elbow) was placed on the 15-day disabled list Thursday, June 8, retroactive to Monday, June 5.

Sorry Slap - but your boyfriend makes Tatum Bell look like an iron man.

[Master___Pain]

I say it's Rich "DL" Harden.

Jun 8 ESPN.com reports Oakland Athletics SP Rich Harden (elbow) was placed on the 15-day disabled list Thursday, June 8, retroactive to Monday, June 5.

Sorry Slap - but your boyfriend makes Tatum Bell look like an iron man.

Mark Prior and Kerry Wood deserve nominations.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Who ever forgot to take their roids/HGH this morning.

[NaptownChief]

Mark Prior and Kerry Wood deserve nominations.



I would have to agree that both deserve it well before Harden....They both suffer from vaginitis from the right shoulder on down to the finger tip on a regular basis...It is tough to overcome vaginitis...Fred Taylor is the only guy I have seen overcome it for a couple years.

[-Slap-]

I say it's Rich "DL" Harden.

Jun 8 ESPN.com reports Oakland Athletics SP Rich Harden (elbow) was placed on the 15-day disabled list Thursday, June 8, retroactive to Monday, June 5.

Sorry Slap - but your boyfriend makes Tatum Bell look like an iron man.
He probably hurt his elbow giving your old man a reach around, Smeldick.

Of course, he might have slapped your mama for spitting.

[27atwater]

prior

[27atwater]

As a Met fan, I wish it was Kaz Matsui.

[anthonypacino]

Wow I think the Black and Blue Cubs (Wood & Prior) are high up there but since they only play once every 5 days...my #1 is Ken Griffey Jr.

[Master___Pain]

s...my #1 is Ken Griffey Jr.

And look at the numbers he's produced. It's crazy to think what kind of nintendo numbers he'd have if he had not missed so many games.

[Gcver2ver3]

Kerry Wood......no doubt

As a Met fan...I can tell you that Cliff Floyd deserves a nomination

[WABronco]

Kerry Wood......no doubt

As a Met fan...I can tell you that Cliff Floyd deserves a nomination
Yea but, Cliff Floyd being injured is a good thing, right? Milledge gets to stay up then...right?

[Smelvin]

He probably hurt his elbow giving your old man a reach around, Smeldick.

Of course, he might have slapped your mama for spitting.

Actually, he hurt his elbow because he's TINY TIM. Too small to throw the ball in the upper 90's on a consistent basis. Sure you had your Pedros (he now never touches 90), Billy Wagners and Oswalts, but they are the exception, not the norm. Tim Hudson is a shadow of his former self and Oswalt is on the DL. Huh, go figure.

You, slap, are just too stupid to realize it. Meanwhile...Harden is now a few days away from Tommy John diagnosis and a carer that resembles Prior's.

[broncosteven]

As a true White sox fan I have to give the nod to Prior then Wood. Prior is a bitch. At least Wood has heart, too bad his delivery has destroyed his arm & now shoulder.

They listed all the minor aches on the radio the other day that Prior has been on DL for things like brusies & soreness etc... not actuall surgical procedures. The Chicago media is turning on Cryor.

[anthonypacino]

And look at the numbers he's produced. It's crazy to think what kind of nintendo numbers he'd have if he had not missed so many games.
oh yeah, if he was healthly kid, Bonds would be chasing his numbers, but now I don't even know if he will a be a hall of famer.

[NaptownChief]

but now I don't even know if he will a be a hall of famer.


You can't be serious....the guy spent 12 years in the league with phenominal numbers and the better part of that 12 years was considered the best player in the game....There are tons of guys in the HOF that never reached his level at any point let alone do it for over a decade. It is easy for all of us to get caught up in recent memory but come on...

[Master___Pain]

oh yeah, if he was healthly kid, Bonds would be chasing his numbers, but now I don't even know if he will a be a hall of famer.

Griffey is a slam dunk HOFer, probably first ballot too. He'll be in the hall, easy.

[NaptownChief]

Griffey is a slam dunk HOFer, probably first ballot too. He'll be in the hall, easy.


Even if he keeps limping the rest of his career the way he has the last few he will still likely post over 600 HR's....And very well might be the only big time power hitter in the modern era not associated with roids.

[CoopDawg]

AJ Burnett

[anthonypacino]

Even if he keeps limping the rest of his career the way he has the last few he will still likely post over 600 HR's....And very well might be the only big time power hitter in the modern era not associated with roids.
If I'm correct Thome and Frank Thomas are pretty close to his home run totals and I'm not sure if either one of those guys are a lock, Palmerio has better stats, Craig Biggio has better all around numbers only lacking in HR and SLG. I am not doubting how good of a player he was I just think with all the inflated numbers nowadays and with Jr's decline the last 6-7 years he might not be in tops anymore, A-Rod will be passing him up and still be a active player when his time comes for the HOF he might get the Jim Rice or Goose Gossage treatment.

[ColtSteel25]

Id say you have to put almost anyone on the Cubs pitching staff along with Mike Sweeney of the Royals. GriffeyJr and Nomar could also be a name listed in there.

[Rich Karlis]

Yea but, Cliff Floyd being injured is a good thing, right? Milledge gets to stay up then...right?

With Nady also hurt it leaves the Mets with Chavez playing RF everyday, which is not good. Nady and Floyd should be back next week though. I hope Omar has ditched his plan on sending Milledge back to Norfolk when Nady gets back.

As far as the most fragile player I am going with Cliff Floyd. Every time Cliff makes contact with the ground he lays there for a few minutes looking like he was hit by a train. Only 4 seasons in his 15 year career he has had 400+ at bats.

[Hogan11]

John Van Benschoten

The Pirates #1 draft pick of 2001 has pitched in a grand total of 6 games since then. His primary function, it appears anyways, is to make sure the Pirates have someone on the DL at all times.

[broncosteven]

John Van Benschoten

The Pirates #1 draft pick of 2001 has pitched in a grand total of 6 games since then. His primary function, it appears anyways, is to make sure the Pirates have someone on the DL at all times.


I prefer Ludwig Von Beethoven but he is a little rusty (or dusty).

[Hogan11]

I prefer Ludwig Von Beethoven but he is a little rusty (or dusty).

He'd probably stay healthier at this point as well.

[broncosteven]

If I'm correct Thome and Frank Thomas are pretty close to his home run totals and I'm not sure if either one of those guys are a lock, Palmerio has better stats, Craig Biggio has better all around numbers only lacking in HR and SLG. I am not doubting how good of a player he was I just think with all the inflated numbers nowadays and with Jr's decline the last 6-7 years he might not be in tops anymore, A-Rod will be passing him up and still be a active player when his time comes for the HOF he might get the Jim Rice or Goose Gossage treatment.


The big Skirt sure got hurt a lot & always at the worst times, in 92 or 93 when they went to playoffs against Toronto he brusied his arm & sat out & I had to watch Dan Pasqua strike out against Dave Stewart in key situations to kill rally's. Then Thomas's feet broke down. Doubt he makes it through this year.

[broncosteven]

He'd probably stay healthier at this point as well.

His line up 1-9 is solid actually # 9 is his best.

I like the symphonies in this order

9
7
3
5
2
6 not a big Sturm & Drang guy
1
4
8

[27atwater]

whoever said AJ Burnett hit it on the head. Wood and Prior are biches, but AJ takes this hands down.

[Disco Man]

Hate to say it as a die hard Cubs fan.......has to be Wood

[Gcver2ver3]

Yea but, Cliff Floyd being injured is a good thing, right? Milledge gets to stay up then...right?


milledge is really here to replace nady....chavez usually spells floyd...

but you prolly knew that anyway.....so yes i guess the silver lining is it can possibly allow us to keep milledge on board....willie/omar are nuts to send milledge back down with how he's played...but i hear they will once nady is healthy again....

[WABronco]

milledge is really here to replace nady....chavez usually spells floyd...

but you prolly knew that anyway.....so yes i guess the silver lining is it can possibly allow us to keep milledge on board....willie/omar are nuts to send milledge back down with how he's played...but i hear they will once nady is healthy again....
Damn...really? I was thinking about picking him up for my fantasy team.

[broncsyanks]

1. kerry wood
2. ,mark prior
3. ken griffey Jr.
4. daivd wells
5. carl pavano--WHO?) LOL
6. estaban loaiza
7. david wright

[27atwater]

1. kerry wood
2. ,mark prior
3. ken griffey Jr.
4. daivd wells
5. carl pavano--WHO?) LOL
6. estaban loaiza
7. david wright


david wright? yankee homer scum. get a frickin clue.

[broncocalijohn]

Prior and Woods are paper tigers. I wouldnt draft them in Fantasy baseball....ever. Well, not anymore.

[OrangeShadow]

prior and wood take it with bunett a close second

[NaptownChief]

If I'm correct Thome and Frank Thomas are pretty close to his home run totals and I'm not sure if either one of those guys are a lock,


But on the otherside of the ball Griffey was one of the best defensive players during that stretch and Thome and Thomas are defensive liabilities especially Thomas. Considering Ozzie Smith was first ballot with terrible offense that tells me a lot of stock must go into defense as well.

[27atwater]

grif is a no brainer. to even consider otherwise is simply lunacy.

[Gcver2ver3]

Damn...really? I was thinking about picking him up for my fantasy team.


yeah that's what i hear.....they told milledge when they brought him up that he was only there until nady got off the DL.....

clearly though this kid makes us better.....nady played well but milledge brings excitement.....and wins btw.....

hopefully willie/omar will keep him where he is

[27atwater]

i'm hoping for some kind of floyd for soriano or vidro trade. Keep the OF nice and young while we solidify the 2B spot. If not, Adam Kennedy is aparently not getting his new deal in LA. I'd love to strike a deal for an above average 2B.

[Gcver2ver3]

i'm hoping for some kind of floyd for soriano or vidro trade. Keep the OF nice and young while we solidify the 2B spot. If not, Adam Kennedy is aparently not getting his new deal in LA. I'd love to strike a deal for an above average 2B.


i'd do cart wheels if we got soriano....but i doubt that happens....valentin is batting .290 as our current 2nd baseman....i think he'll go on to get the most starts with matsui & hernandez getting limited starts at 2nd....

starting pitching is where we are going......i'm hoping we can get a livan hernandez type.....but more realistically we'll prolly get a odalis perez type....

without trading milledge....i don't see us getting better than a #3 or #4 starter this year....well, unless we trade pelfrey....

i don't think floyd commands enough trade value for a dontell willis or barry zito type.....

[Orange_Beard]

The older Roided-up Bonds is pretty thin.

[watermock]

Slappy was pimping Prior earlier in the thread, he's just reduced to insults regarding him now. Griffey is having a decent year. This is like throwing out cheese.

[watermock]

Isn't Barroid still stuck at 215?

[broncsyanks]

david wright? yankee homer scum. get a frickin clue.

sorry about that i meant jaret wright
no need to get personal

[27atwater]

sorry about that i meant jaret wright
no need to get personal


it's cool. just bustin yer balls.

[broncsyanks]

i iwll be moving to PA either chester county or montgomery county

[27atwater]

enjoy the philly fans.

what brings ya that way?

[broncsyanks]

cheap real estate
yeha i know about htem
where in PA are you?

[NaptownChief]

i'm hoping for some kind of floyd for soriano or vidro trade. Keep the OF nice and young while we solidify the 2B spot. If not, Adam Kennedy is aparently not getting his new deal in LA. I'd love to strike a deal for an above average 2B.



The Rangers wanted to trade us Soriano a couple of years ago but the Mets wouldn't give up Kazmir....They decided to hold out for a really winner like Zambrano instead....gawd

[27atwater]

cheap real estate
yeha i know about htem
where in PA are you?


Just outside of Harrisburg. about a 2.5 hour drive to NYC. we got to a few mets games each year. we're going up on the 22nd to see the reds. may catch a yanks game in august.

[27atwater]

The Rangers wanted to trade us Soriano a couple of years ago but the Mets wouldn't give up Kazmir....They decided to hold out for a really winner like Zambrano instead....gawd


hopefully the new management will be smarter. could you imagine Kazmir on our staff right now?

[NaptownChief]

hopefully the new management will be smarter. could you imagine Kazmir on our staff right now?


That only pisses me off once or twice a day...

[broncsyanks]

sounds cool yeah the new management with omar is a lotbetter i met omar and he is a class act

[NaptownChief]

sounds cool yeah the new management with omar is a lotbetter i met omar and he is a class act



Seems like a real good guy and a good baseball mind....Ownership has certainly given him a big checkbook to work with which certainly helps.

[Darkhawk24]

As a guy who keeps drafting AJ Burnett every year for fantasy. I have to add my vote to him!

Mike Sweeney is also a puss!

[NaptownChief]

As a guy who keeps drafting AJ Burnett every year for fantasy. I have to add my vote to him!

Mike Sweeney is also a puss!


If we used the media's NFL standards on these guys it would make them all the toughest SOB's around...like Steve McNair.

[-Slap-]

Remember Kirk Gibson? All they ever did was talk about a tough guy the former UM WR was, but he was on the DL multiple times throughout his career.

[NaptownChief]

Remember Kirk Gibson? All they ever did was talk about a tough guy the former UM WR was, but he was on the DL multiple times throughout his career.

That is true...I guess you can be a really tough guy in both sports by always being hurt. As a player they probably just need to hire a marketing company to sell the idea and then all the talking heads will just keep regurgitating it like normal.

[-Slap-]

That is true...I guess you can be a really tough guy in both sports by always being hurt. As a player they probably just need to hire a marketing company to sell the idea and then all the talking heads will just keep regurgitating it like normal.
The late Allen Malumud of the LA Times campaigned so hard for Gibson to win the MVP in 1988 it was unreal. It was like he was his son.

[broncocalijohn]

i'm hoping for some kind of floyd for soriano or vidro trade. Keep the OF nice and young while we solidify the 2B spot. If not, Adam Kennedy is aparently not getting his new deal in LA. I'd love to strike a deal for an above average 2B.

It wouldnt surprise me that my angels get rid of Kennedy after this year for howie kendrick or put figgens there as there experiment of letting Glaus go for McPherson and Benjie Molina go for Jeff Mathis who is back in the minors. These star studded minor leaguers arent ready for the big time when asked to fill these shoes. Dallas has been hurt while Glaus has done the impossible.... he has been healthy. Kennedy is part of the 2002 Championship team and is better than above average at 2nd. He should have two gold gloves voted to him by now. One of the best 9th slot hitters in the league. Angels have top 3 minor league system (maybe the best) but they are rushing a few of these guys.
BTW: Griffey is not injury prone worse than Prior or Woods. THose two have been hurt there whole careers. No comparison.

[broncocalijohn]

As a guy who keeps drafting AJ Burnett every year for fantasy. I have to add my vote to him!

Mike Sweeney is also a puss!
You win game 7 of the world series (or was it MVP) and you get a life long pass of making millions undeserved and keep getting drafted onto FB teams. Unreal. His name should be Burnett DL .

[Clockwork Orange]

In past years Larry Walker was always prominent in this discussion.

[broncosteven]

Wood is on DL again one day after Cubs gave him clean bill of health.

[-Slap-]

BTW: Griffey is not injury prone worse than Prior or Woods. THose two have been hurt there whole careers. No comparison.
Pitchers and position players need to be ranked differently. Pitchers are far more likely to miss time due to injury and their performance is more likely to suffer when they play hurt.

Harden was stupid enough to go out for the fourth inning after feeling a twinge in his elbow in the third inning. Macha was pretty pissed off at him for not telling anybody. Unfortunately, Rich was probably trying to prove something to some idiot fans instead of trusting his coaches, so he pushed himself what was supposed to be a rehab start. 24 years old. He'll learn.

[Mr. Trout]

Griffey definitely which kind of blows.

[JCMElway]

Griffey

[FantomForce]

Wood all the way

[broncocalijohn]

Here areGriffeys career stats. If you put Griffey as the most fragile player compared to Woods or even Prior, you are just LAZY!

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class=yspscores height=16></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>Career</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16></TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2158</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>8005</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1423</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>2343</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>436</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>36</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>546</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1570</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1050</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1439</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>178</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>67</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.293</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.376</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.561</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.937</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Griffey was injury proned big time from 2001 to 2004 (4 years). Compare with Wood. Griffey is much older than those two so if age plays a part in an injury so be it. Wood has no excuse on age. Wood with out a doubt.

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Here areGriffeys career stats. If you put Griffey as the most fragile player compared to Woods or even Prior, you are just LAZY!

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Griffey was injury proned big time from 2001 to 2004 (4 years). Compare with Wood. Griffey is much older than those two so if age plays a part in an injury so be it. Wood has no excuse on age. Wood with out a doubt.

Wow...Griffey has played at least 100 games only once in 5 years...yikes he's fragile....

what a sad way to see such a promising career suffer...