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Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2006, 08:09 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/060206dnmethebron.43e83812.html


Teacher charged with improper relationship

Lewisville ISD: Former Miss Texas contestant faces possible jail time

09:06 PM CDT on Thursday, June 1, 2006

By BRANDON FORMBY / The Dallas Morning News

A first-year Hebron High School teacher and former Miss Texas contestant faces up to 20 years in jail after an 18-year-old student told police he had sex with the 25-year-old woman several times at her apartment in Austin Ranch.

Amy McElhenney, who taught Spanish and was a cross-country coach at the school, is charged with having an improper relationship with a student, a second-degree felony. She was arrested on May 25, the last day of school, posted $5,000 bail and was released.
Amy McElhenney
Amy McElhenney

Ms. McElhenney could not be reached for comment. The student's identity was not released.

According to an arrest warrant affidavit, another student sent an anonymous note last month to Hebron's resource police officer that indicated Ms. McElhenney's cellphone contained "intimate" text messages to and from the 18-year-old.

When police interviewed Ms. McElhenney at the school, she allowed them to view the text messages.

"Messages that were on there led us to believe there was a little bit more going on between the teacher and this student," said Carrollton police Sgt. David Sponhour.

In an affidavit, a Carrollton police officer said the messages "constitute a flirtatious and endearing relationship" between Ms. McElhenney and the student.

While Ms. McElhenney denied having a physical or sexual relationship with the teen, she told police she felt their relationship was inappropriate, police said.

When interviewed at home, however, the student gave police a written statement in which he said he and Ms. McElhenney had sex on "numerous occasions" at her apartment. He told police their alleged relationship began in February.

Ms. McElhenney was charged under a law that outlaws sexual relationships between educators and students even if the sex is consensual and the student is of legal age. In Texas, the age of consent is 17.

Proponents of the law have said it sends the message that even older teenagers should not be considered capable of consenting to sex with a teacher, especially since educators have power over their students.

Others, however, have said that while the law's intent may be good, it should contain different provisions for different ages and distinguish between students who do and don't consent.

The law took effect Sept. 1, 2003. Between then and the end of 2005, only five Texas teachers were convicted and sent to prison under the law. Three Garland school district teachers were arrested under the law in 2005 and accused of having sexual relationships with students. One of those teachers also was charged with two counts of indecency with a child because the student was underage. The Lewisville school district placed Ms. McElhenney on paid administrative leave May 11. In March she turned in a resignation form that went into effect May 25. Officials said she indicated she was not returning to Hebron because she was taking a teaching position in another district, though they were unclear on what district that is.

School officials said they alerted the state certification board of the investigation and her arrest.

Ms. McElhenney was scheduled to teach a Spanish course at a summer camp program in Corsicana, where she was hired as a contract employee after being selected to teach the course for 7- to 12-year-olds by the Navarro Council of the Arts.

"In light of the information, we'll either find another instructor or cancel the program," said Connie Standridge, Corsicana's city manager.

According to the Miss Texas Web site, Ms. McElhenney competed in the scholarship pageant in 2002 as Miss Bexar County when she was a Spanish and education major at the University of Texas at Austin.

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Man-Goblin
06-01-2006, 08:16 PM
That's a bunch of crap. The kid was 18.

azbroncfan
06-01-2006, 08:22 PM
All I know is that teachers are getting hotter and a lot younger than when I went to school. I'd would of banged a hot teacher when I was there, actually I had one hot teacher when I was in JR high that we hooked my buddies bro up with and she would let us take her car when we were 15.

TexanBob
06-01-2006, 08:25 PM
Where were these teachers when *I* was that age?

Taco John
06-01-2006, 08:26 PM
A couple years ago, it was priests and kids... Now it's teachers and kids... I wonder what the next media fad will be...

TexanBob
06-01-2006, 08:30 PM
All I know is that teachers are getting hotter and a lot younger than when I went to school.

I think part of the answer to that is teaching simply doesn't have as long a shelf-life as it used to. Teachers get burned out of the job so quickly now. These 20-somethings still have all that idealistic crap in their heads and it takes 5-10 years to work it out of them. They come in thinking they are saving the planet or leading the next generation or some such crap and eventually they realize they're just glorified babysitters teaching political correctness and how to put a condom on a cucumber.

Then, again, a few of them apparently think the sex education corriculum needs more hands-on lessons.

Jason in LA
06-01-2006, 08:39 PM
That's not rape.

Lestat
06-01-2006, 08:39 PM
i just wanna know why these kids keep reporting it, you get to boink a hot chick anytime you want, up your grades & hell still have a slice on the side


and yet these morons turn the teachers in instead, it makes no damn sense to me
it's one thing if the pupil is 14 but if their 16 & older they know full well what their doing & anything else they say is BS

2KBack
06-01-2006, 08:43 PM
i just wanna know why these kids keep reporting it, you get to boink a hot chick anytime you want, up your grades & hell still have a slice on the side


and yet these morons turn the teachers in instead, it makes no damn sense to me
it's one thing if the pupil is 14 but if their 16 & older they know full well what their doing & anything else they say is BS

Something tells me these relationships are turned in by 3rd parties, or after the relationship has ended.

PatsWin2002
06-01-2006, 08:46 PM
This kind of thing happens in porn flicks all the time.......so I've been told. :angel:

Ha!

plummershelper
06-01-2006, 08:52 PM
That's literally 2 miles from where I live!! That's awesome, I love it when my hometown makes perverted news like this. BTW, Man-Goblin, have you seen new pics of Warner's wife. She actually looks decent, not so goblinish.

Old Dude
06-01-2006, 08:58 PM
All of my teachers were like 50 years old with names like Crabtree and Wiggit and Hatchet-tooth. And none of them wanted to bang me.

Jesterhole
06-01-2006, 09:03 PM
I'm sorry, but an 18 year old landing that hot piece of tail should be celebrated.

What a friggin' punk for turning her in. Dude needs to be found and seriously beat down. And then castrated.

ClevelandBronco
06-01-2006, 09:27 PM
That law is bull****.

ludo21
06-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Kid is 18, teacher is hot and only 25, whats the deal here?

Is is the kid getting the teacher in trouble? I just dont see the problem here besides the teacher/student relationship.

SportinOne
06-01-2006, 09:32 PM
the law is not bull, it's just proper. college kids are of age but its still not okay for them to bang their teachers.

With that said, i would have railed 'er. And probably every single one of these teachers that have been posted since the offseason began. What a shame that these kids just don't appreciate a hot, mature piece of @ss. Kid probably didn't even know what to do with it.

Lev Vyvanse
06-01-2006, 09:35 PM
I think part of the answer to that is teaching simply doesn't have as long a shelf-life as it used to. Teachers get burned out of the job so quickly now. These 20-somethings still have all that idealistic crap in their heads and it takes 5-10 years to work it out of them. They come in thinking they are saving the planet or leading the next generation or some such crap and eventually they realize they're just glorified babysitters teaching political correctness and how to put a condom on a cucumber.

Then, again, a few of them apparently think the sex education corriculum needs more hands-on lessons.

What do you do for a living? Because that’s a very honorable profession to be looking down on.

prick

SportinOne
06-01-2006, 09:36 PM
On the other hand... the women that are messing around with these young kids were more than likely sexually abused at a very young age. Still.. this chick is seriously hot... yeah i'd still do it.

SportinOne
06-01-2006, 09:38 PM
I think part of the answer to that is teaching simply doesn't have as long a shelf-life as it used to. Teachers get burned out of the job so quickly now. These 20-somethings still have all that idealistic crap in their heads and it takes 5-10 years to work it out of them. They come in thinking they are saving the planet or leading the next generation or some such crap and eventually they realize they're just glorified babysitters teaching political correctness and how to put a condom on a cucumber.

Then, again, a few of them apparently think the sex education corriculum needs more hands-on lessons.

Texan + Bob. Enough said.

PatsWin2002
06-01-2006, 10:01 PM
All of my teachers were like 50 years old with names like Crabtree and Wiggit and Hatchet-tooth. And none of them wanted to bang me.

.....as far as you know! Ha!

youcandoit1687
06-01-2006, 10:09 PM
i just wanna know why these kids keep reporting it, you get to boink a hot chick anytime you want, up your grades & hell still have a slice on the side


and yet these morons turn the teachers in instead, it makes no damn sense to me
it's one thing if the pupil is 14 but if their 16 & older they know full well what their doing & anything else they say is BS

dude at 14, kids know what the hell sex is. i say once ur into middle school, it isnt rape for boys. girls, could be. they need to look at the circumstances. i also think it is weird that the teacher is turned in right around the last day of school. kid probly didnt wanna have some 25 year old annoying him

Jason in LA
06-01-2006, 10:19 PM
How is it wrong for an 18 year old and a 25 year old to get it on?

Student or not, the ages are pretty close, and he's an adult.

DomCasual
06-01-2006, 10:20 PM
I thought they gave "Teacher of the Year" for stuff like this.

Seriously, when I was 18 and in high school, this would have been a dream. And there would not have been lasting scars - unless you consider a scar to be all your friends thinking you're a friggen legend.

Kaylore
06-01-2006, 10:25 PM
The "kid" was eighteen, which makes him a man. Ethically it's still innappropriate. the young man is just living out a universal fantasy. I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a fantasy of some of these female teachers as well. Go teach at a school where you can be the eye candy of the these young studs and milk one in. Sounds like some sick minds if you ask me.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2006, 10:26 PM
The main issue here is there is a rule against teachers screwing students. That is the problem.

I don't understand these guys that ruin the good thing they have going.

Arkie
06-01-2006, 10:35 PM
We only hear about the few that talk. Countless others go unreported.

Dudeskey
06-01-2006, 10:46 PM
I agree w/ Kaylore on the ethics part.

BroncoMan4ever
06-01-2006, 11:44 PM
the kid was 18 and was of age. Who cares? Honestly if my hot former Miss Texas spanish teacher was willing i woulda banged her every chance i got.

I could see making a big deal about this if the kid was underage, but since he was of age who cares?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2006, 11:54 PM
I could see making a big deal about this if the kid was underage, but since he was of age who cares?
It's a law that teachers cannot sex up their students.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-01-2006, 11:59 PM
Texan + Bob. Enough said.

:D

I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise that the guy isn't too fond of teachers and/or education.

BroncoBuff
06-02-2006, 12:25 AM
That's a bunch of crap. The kid was 18.
She was charged with improper rel'ship w/ a student ... that statute probably doesn't specify that the vic be a minor ... or else he was 17 when this "horrible crime" happened.

BTW ... take a look at the photo:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7899/amy4bh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
A couple weeks ago, I took a little heat for a certain statement about
the physical appearance of these offenders: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1118892#post1118892

Yet again, this new one fits the profile... if you wanna use pop psychology on them, maybe they know they're hot, and they get used by men. They know they're hot, so they figure they deserve better, and llok for new relationships where they are the dominant party. I'm just sayin, because several of these have been really, really hot women.

Rausch
06-02-2006, 12:44 AM
This is so unfair.

Nun at Rausch's Catholic High School: You need a bj?

Rausch: GAH! Bad touch! BAAAAAAD TOUCH!

Skip to 2006 with hottie former cheerleaders teaching that could give a jellyfish a stiffy...

2006 hot teacher: You need a bj?

Rausch:Giggity-giggity-G00000!1!

Garcia Bronco
06-02-2006, 05:51 AM
I don't understand what she did wrong other than sleep with a student....but it sounds like the kid was of age...a legal adult. She should of course be fired.....but she shouldn't go to jail.

Garcia Bronco
06-02-2006, 06:07 AM
All of my teachers were like 50 years old with names like Crabtree and Wiggit and Hatchet-tooth. And none of them wanted to bang me.
'


And the converse was true as well.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 06:17 AM
Hmmm...I guess what she did was a breach of professional ethics, but he's not a minor, so it wasn't a crime.

I know I'd feel like I just hit the lotto jackpot if I were that kid.

Garcia Bronco
06-02-2006, 06:18 AM
Hmmm...I guess what she did was a breach of professional ethics, but he's not a minor, so it wasn't a crime.

I know I'd feel like I just hit the lotto jackpot if I were that kid.

And isn't it about the kids.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 06:21 AM
And isn't it about the kids.

;D

chrisp
06-02-2006, 06:29 AM
The crazy thing is that it appears that the state has specifcally passed a law preventing any kind of student-teacher sex, so in theory if a 40-year old mature student were found to be sleeping with their 25-year old tutor then the 25-year old would go to prison for abusing their position of power over this poor little vulnerable 40-year old.

Student-teacher sex is probably inadvisable in most circumstances but it should be left to the individuals - it undermines the concept of adulthood if you're not considered abel to judge for yourself who you sleep with or not.

....the good ol'nanny state' as we call it in the UK..

AND she IS hot - wtf was that kid thining turning her in - maybe she dumped him and he took revenge...sort of undermines the concept that the teacher has more power over the student doesn't it? With this fab new law the boot's on the other foot....

DrFate
06-02-2006, 07:56 AM
the law is not bull, it's just proper. college kids are of age but its still not okay for them to bang their teachers.
But it isn't illegal. Personally I would find it unethical for an instructor (male or female) to have a relationship with an adult student in his/her class. Some colleges have policies about it, but some don't.

OrangeShadow
06-02-2006, 08:03 AM
I don't understand what she did wrong other than sleep with a student....but it sounds like the kid was of age...a legal adult. She should of course be fired.....but she shouldn't go to jail.

agreed

Teddman
06-02-2006, 08:45 AM
I gave up teaching years ago and at the time most of my colleagues were a bunch of bluehairs. Had I know that all these hotties would be entering the teaching force, I would have dealt with the poor wages and long hours.

NaptownChief
06-02-2006, 09:00 AM
Well clearly this kid wasn't mentally mature enough for this realationship or else he would have kept his mouth shut and would still be knocking the back side out of her.

Garcia Bronco
06-02-2006, 09:10 AM
Well clearly this kid wasn't mentally mature enough for this realationship or else he would have kept his mouth shut and would still be knocking the back side out of her.



For every hot girl out there....there is a guy thats tired of sleeping with her.

OrangeShadow
06-02-2006, 09:11 AM
like the dude who cheated on halle berry,Eric Bennet i think it was

Bronco X
06-02-2006, 09:18 AM
The school should be the only ones here involved in disciplining the teacher. If the age of the student was a factor, there should already be laws in affect to procecute the teacher under... there is no need for a specific teacher student law. If a 28 year old college professor hooks up with a 22 year old undergrad, would the same law apply? That being said, a teacher should definitely be fired for something like this, even if the student is 18.

DeusExManning
06-02-2006, 12:42 PM
We only hear about the few that talk. Countless others go unreported.

Exactly. We all know stories from high school.

Teaching in college I was hit on all of the time and it was very difficult. These girls use all kinds of tactics and when they are of legal age it really makes it tough.

I was able to say no but easily could have gone the other way.

footstepsfrom#27
06-02-2006, 01:03 PM
The crazy thing is that it appears that the state has specifcally passed a law preventing any kind of student-teacher sex, so in theory if a 40-year old mature student were found to be sleeping with their 25-year old tutor then the 25-year old would go to prison for abusing their position of power over this poor little vulnerable 40-year old.

Student-teacher sex is probably inadvisable in most circumstances but it should be left to the individuals - it undermines the concept of adulthood if you're not considered abel to judge for yourself who you sleep with or not.
This is going to be challenged on grounds of conflicting legal principle given that Texas law specifies 17 as the age of consent. However, this law is based on the fact that she holds a professional license and is considered to be in a position of power. State and federal guidelines apply similar restrictions to licensed mental health workers with patients in their care or the care of institutions they work for. The key word is "licensed". If this teacher were a teacher's aid instead of a teacher, there's nothing Texas could do, though the school district would be within their rights to fire her.

I don't think this will survive a court challenge however. The basis for the mental health statute rests on the idea that people in either voluntary or involuntary treatment by mental health providers have the same status as minors, meaning they do not have the legal right to consent to consensual sex with someone involved in the treatment process while under such care. The law holds the relationship to be illegal for two years following the end of the professional relationship and presumes reduced capacity and reasoning based on issues of mental judgement.

No such presumption exists for students who are of legal age.

Kaylore
06-02-2006, 01:05 PM
But it isn't illegal. Personally I would find it unethical for an instructor (male or female) to have a relationship with an adult student in his/her class. Some colleges have policies about it, but some don't.
You wouldn't consider sleeping with the person who grades your papers unethical? Uhh

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-02-2006, 01:27 PM
You wouldn't consider sleeping with the person who grades your papers unethical? Uhh

Would be a lot of pressure to give an "A" performance :)

AboveAverage
06-02-2006, 01:39 PM
I wonder how many students are boinking their students and have kept it a secret.....I think the number would be shocking.

Tom A Hawk
06-02-2006, 01:57 PM
All of my teachers were like 50 years old with names like Crabtree and Wiggit and Hatchet-tooth. And none of them wanted to bang me.

Hilarious!
maybe they do now......what does that make them....80-90?

Old Dude
06-02-2006, 02:30 PM
Hilarious!
maybe they do now......what does that make them....80-90?

Dead, more like.

watermock
06-02-2006, 03:40 PM
The press will have a field day with this. Unethical? Absolutely grounds for dismissal. Illegal with a man of legal age, absolutely not. This won't make it past the first appeal if she's convicted.

Meanwhile, in the Netherlands, they are forming a party of Pedophiles that want's to lower the age of consent to 12. For now. I had a fine teacher that was so top heavy that she constantly wore very conservative clothes and didn't get contacts. She was probably the best teacher in Iowa. So her assface husband, (also a teacher but an idiot) goes and boinks the class hoe that curiously enough, also had huge torpedos. She was a fine person in her late 20's and brought me two state debate championships. I changed schools and wasn't acedemically challenged after that. She was devestated and went on to teach at West Des Moines, which soon won another of several championships. It really hurt me academically.

No1BroncoFan
06-02-2006, 05:40 PM
the law is not bull, it's just proper. college kids are of age but its still not okay for them to bang their teachers.
College teachers get fired for breaking school policies, not laws (in most places) when they boink their students. Two consenting adults, yet one could face jail time. That's just fvcking stupid!

Ben

Bob's your Information Minister
06-02-2006, 06:02 PM
Again, there is a state law against teachers and students screwing. That is the issue.

shaun514
06-02-2006, 06:19 PM
Again, there is a state law against teachers and students screwing. That is the issue.

He's an adult. He should face time as well.

No1BroncoFan
06-02-2006, 08:34 PM
Again, there is a state law against teachers and students screwing. That is the issue.
The fact that there is a state law that will criminalize a legal activity between consenting adults is fvcking stupid!
He's an adult. He should face time as well.
I'm not sure the law should go both ways. I could imagine some truly ugly teacher using sex for grades to get something she can't get any other way (unless Bob's around).

Ben

footstepsfrom#27
06-03-2006, 01:59 AM
Again, there is a state law against teachers and students screwing. That is the issue.
Actually the issue is whether or not the law will be upheld on constitutional grounds. I suspect it will not be.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-03-2006, 02:17 AM
Actually the issue is whether or not the law will be upheld on constitutional grounds. I suspect it will not be.

That would be ideal...I agree, it's a stupid law.