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spdirty
06-01-2006, 08:05 PM
Good God, would this qualify as a threat? If so, this guy should be arrested. Id imagine that the only reason he apologized is because of the crap he knew he was in after saying that. And I can't stand Schumer but i would be extremely pissed about it if I were him.
http://www.wnbc.com/politics/9306297/detail.html
Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes
POSTED: 2:27 pm EDT June 1, 2006
UPDATED: 8:53 pm EDT June 1, 2006
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NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about a fellow Democrat putting "a bullet between the president's eyes."
Hevesi called a mea culpa press conference hours after putting his foot in his mouth at the Queens College commencement.
"I apologize to the president of the United States" and to the fellow state politician, Sen. Charles Schumer, Hevesi said. "I am not a person of violence.
"I am apologizing as abjectly as I can. There is no excuse for it. It was beyond dumb."
At the news conference, a contrite Hevesi repeated what he recalled saying in the speech. The comptroller said he was merely trying to convey that Schumer has strength and courage to stand up to the president on major policy issues.
According to a videotape of the speech, Hevesi said:
"The man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it. The toughest senator, the best representative. A great, great member of the Congress of the United States."
Hevesi said he hadn't been in touch with the White House but he hoped his apology reached President Bush.
Hevesi, a longtime professor of government and politics at Queens College before becoming comptroller, also referred to his comments as "remarkably stupid" and "incredibly moronic."
"I do speak extemporaneously," he said. "And I've never said anything like this."
Schumer spokeswoman Risa Heller said the senator was satisfied with Hevesi's apology.
"Comptroller Hevesi was trying to make a point," Heller said. "He went way too far, and it was inappropriate and wrong. He has apologized to both the senator and the president, and we believe that ends the matter."
A White House spokesman did not immediately return a telephone message seeking comment Thursday. But at least one Republican seized on Hevesi's words.
"Threats against the president are no joke, and this incident raises real concerns about Alan Hevesi's fitness to hold public office," GOP Comptroller nominee J. Christopher Callaghan said during his acceptance speech at the Republican state convention in Hempstead, N.Y.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-01-2006, 08:35 PM
Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)
Pretty dumb.
DBruleU
06-02-2006, 12:36 AM
Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)
Pretty dumb.
:oyvey:
Crushaholic
06-02-2006, 01:11 AM
Anybody else would have been arrested. However, politics is such a buddy-buddy system it makes me sick...:nono:
Atlas
06-02-2006, 03:14 AM
I would never say that Bush should be shot between the eyes.
It might be the best thing for this country but I would never say that.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 05:23 AM
:oyvey:
What?
Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?
defenseman
06-02-2006, 07:30 AM
What?
Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?
politicizing again are we. Ahhh, here we go on, and on, and on, and on......never stops.....you are beginning to remind me of many of our liberal newpapers and news outlets. Never stop with the rhetoric...have it your way.....fortunately, most people recognize the difference between apples and oranges.....dman
Rigs11
06-02-2006, 08:48 AM
politicizing again are we. Ahhh, here we go on, and on, and on, and on......never stops.....you are beginning to remind me of many of our liberal newpapers and news outlets. Never stop with the rhetoric...have it your way.....fortunately, most people recognize the difference between apples and oranges.....dman
Why don't you enlighten us with the difference o wise one.
55CrushEm
06-02-2006, 09:07 AM
What?
Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?
Maybe you are correct.....I don't know......but I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard anyone "celebrate" the assassinations of either JFK or RFK.....
defenseman
06-02-2006, 09:08 AM
By apples and oranges the thrust lies with "rhetoric" and "open discussion based on trends,real data, and well thought out answers to tough questions". Rhetoric is what it is, pretty much useless chatter designed to confuse, dismay and insinuate. True open discussion envokes thought on both sides of the table attempting to come to a well conceived answer to a tough question, all +'s and -'s put on the table. The "other" party slamming JFK and RFK, is pure rhetoric. Not useful. Designed to make one just as bad as the other. Accomplishes absolutely nothing. Does annoy most folks, UNLESS they can recognize the rhetoric. IF the goal is to make one just as bad as the other, I'm sure some folks will buy in. I prefer to continue to believe "both" sides of the fence have quality individuals who, if given the opportunity, will engage in sound , well thought out dialogue , VICE RHETORIC and FINGER POINTING, to solve some of the problems which we are now faced with. Hopefully , both sides of the fence figure it out, and get started sooner than later. The rhetoric and finger pointing is absolutely a waste of energy and time to us all....dman
Rigs11
06-02-2006, 09:21 AM
By apples and oranges the thrust lies with "rhetoric" and "open discussion based on trends,real data, and well thought out answers to tough questions". Rhetoric is what it is, pretty much useless chatter designed to confuse, dismay and insinuate. True open discussion envokes thought on both sides of the table attempting to come to a well conceived answer to a tough question, all +'s and -'s put on the table. The "other" party slamming JFK and RFK, is pure rhetoric. Not useful. Designed to make one just as bad as the other. Accomplishes absolutely nothing. Does annoy most folks, UNLESS they can recognize the rhetoric. IF the goal is to make one just as bad as the other, I'm sure some folks will buy in. I prefer to continue to believe "both" sides of the fence have quality individuals who, if given the opportunity, will engage in sound , well thought out dialogue , VICE RHETORIC and FINGER POINTING, to solve some of the problems which we are now faced with. Hopefully , both sides of the fence figure it out, and get started sooner than later. The rhetoric and finger pointing is absolutely a waste of energy and time to us all....dman
Well said. Unfortunately with the way that this country is divided, rhetoric is commonplace. Especially in political forums.
Garcia Bronco
06-02-2006, 09:26 AM
Maybe you are correct.....I don't know......but I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard anyone "celebrate" the assassinations of either JFK or RFK.....
Me either.
spdirty
06-02-2006, 09:32 AM
Me either.
me either. I have never heard that, ever, from anyone.
Garcia Bronco
06-02-2006, 09:34 AM
me either. I have never heard that, ever, from anyone.
I mean at the end of the day....whether I agree with him or not....he's still the leader of my country. And those ****ers won't tread on me.
Old Dude
06-02-2006, 09:40 AM
I would never say that Bush should be shot between the eyes.
It might be the best thing for this country but I would never say that.
If it happened, I would do my best to keep him on life support. Just think about who would succeed him by law.
defenseman
06-02-2006, 09:55 AM
If it happened, I would do my best to keep him on life support. Just think about who would succeed him by law.
I too am not a big fan of VP cheney...if you ever met him in person, you would find him quite personable I'm sure..dman
defenseman
06-02-2006, 09:57 AM
Well said. Unfortunately with the way that this country is divided, rhetoric is commonplace. Especially in political forums.
Thanks. Just wish the elected officials would figure this stuff out. And I wish, most americans would deny "rhetoric" a forum to flourish. It truley is a waste of every americans time and tax dollars..dman
El Guapo
06-02-2006, 10:09 AM
Maybe you are correct.....I don't know......but I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard anyone "celebrate" the assassinations of either JFK or RFK.....
John wilkes booth is my great great great uncle. no joke.
55CrushEm
06-02-2006, 10:14 AM
John wilkes booth is my great great great uncle. no joke.
Are you proud of him? J/K......
Actually, I believe you.....Alexander Hamilton is my great, great, great, great, great grandfather.....(5 greats).....
My sister did a 135 page genealogy report in high school....tons of research.
El Guapo
06-02-2006, 10:23 AM
Im definitely not proud of him, but I do think its cool. ha.
DBruleU
06-02-2006, 05:41 PM
What?
Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?
I shake my head at the needless comment you make at the end of your sentence.
Although, you'll take any oppurtunity to slam a Rep.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 05:45 PM
politicizing again are we. Ahhh, here we go on, and on, and on, and on......never stops.....you are beginning to remind me of many of our liberal newpapers and news outlets. Never stop with the rhetoric...have it your way.....fortunately, most people recognize the difference between apples and oranges.....dman
Right on cue: Instead of answering my question, you opt for obfuscation and "attack the messenger."
This tactic is getting almost as tired as your "let's not play the blame game" deflections whenever a new BushCo or GOP scandal comes down the pike.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 05:47 PM
I shake my head at the needless comment you make at the end of your sentence.
That wasn't a comment - it was a question (which you avoided.)
DBruleU
06-02-2006, 05:53 PM
That wasn't a comment - it was a question (which you avoided.)
Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)
That isnt a question. Thats what I was shaking my head at.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 06:00 PM
Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)
That isnt a question. Thats what I was shaking my head at.
It wouldn't be the first time you've shaken your head at something true.
spdirty
06-02-2006, 06:14 PM
(Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)
Why in the hell dont you just explain the comment? What kinds of jokes were made about JFK and RFK?? Seriously, the only "jokes" I have heard about this was how JFK was assassinated. Nothing more. I have never heard anyone make fun or make jokes supporting JFK's or RFK's assassination. And I have not ever heard anyone joke about RFK's assassination. So please, do us a favor and explain wtf that was all about.
If you cant explain it just admit you made a mistake.
DBruleU
06-02-2006, 06:29 PM
Why in the hell dont you just explain the comment? What kinds of jokes were made about JFK and RFK?? Seriously, the only "jokes" I have heard about this was how JFK was assassinated. Nothing more. I have never heard anyone make fun or make jokes supporting JFK's or RFK's assassination. And I have not ever heard anyone joke about RFK's assassination. So please, do us a favor and explain wtf that was all about.
If you cant explain it just admit you made a mistake.
No, he just attacks me after his needless and pathetic comments.
spdirty
06-02-2006, 06:31 PM
I just wish he'd enlighten us. And I won't stop pestering him in this thread until he explains the comment in post 2 of this thread.
DBruleU
06-02-2006, 06:45 PM
He suffers from diarrhea of the mouth. He wont explain anything. Especially his self-proclaimed Vietnam-era war veteranship.
I'd be interested in what sorts of right-wing jokes about the assassinations of JFK and/or RFK LABF has in mind.
With references, of course - no "Well I heard..." anecdotal crap.
spdirty
06-02-2006, 07:32 PM
I'd be interested in what sorts of right-wing jokes about the assassinations of JFK and/or RFK LABF has in mind.
With references, of course - no "Well I heard..." anecdotal crap.
exactly
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 09:06 PM
He suffers from diarrhea of the mouth.
Whereas you suffer from Kool-Aid on the brain.
Especially his self-proclaimed Vietnam-era war veteranship.
Well, at least there's no mystery about your swift boat "veteranship."
spdirty
06-02-2006, 09:11 PM
Hey LABF, since you are back, could you answer the question please?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 09:12 PM
Why in the hell dont you just explain the comment? What kinds of jokes were made about JFK and RFK?? Seriously, the only "jokes" I have heard about this was how JFK was assassinated. Nothing more. I have never heard anyone make fun or make jokes supporting JFK's or RFK's assassination. And I have not ever heard anyone joke about RFK's assassination. So please, do us a favor and explain wtf that was all about.
Unbelievable!
You're actually going to sit there and deny you've ever heard a right-winger make jokes about the JFK assassination?
If you cant explain it just admit you made a mistake.
:oyvey:
Hello?
In order for me to have "made a mistake" in this instance, it would have to be true that no right-winger has ever joked about the JFK assassination.
Surely you're not willing to take that bet?
Atlas
06-02-2006, 09:14 PM
If it happened, I would do my best to keep him on life support. Just think about who would succeed him by law.
No Sh!t.. It's scarey all the way around. 2 more years....{sigh}
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 09:19 PM
Despicable: JFK Assassination Video Game
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/kennedy.game.reut/index.html
They are releasing it on November 22nd, the anniversary of John F. Kennedy's death.
Can you imagine the outcry you would hear from the right-wingnuts if this were a Reagan or a Bush assassination game?
El Minion
06-02-2006, 09:41 PM
Despicable: JFK Assassination Video Game
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/kennedy.game.reut/index.html
They are releasing it on November 22nd, the anniversary of John F. Kennedy's death.
Can you imagine the outcry you would hear from the right-wingnuts if this were a Reagan or a Bush assassination game?
Broken link, try this. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6118-2004Nov22.html)
spdirty
06-02-2006, 09:42 PM
Despicable: JFK Assassination Video Game
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/kennedy.game.reut/index.html
They are releasing it on November 22nd, the anniversary of John F. Kennedy's death.
Can you imagine the outcry you would hear from the right-wingnuts if this were a Reagan or a Bush assassination game?
OK, thank you for finding evidence to support your remarks. Please do not paint every single right winger with a broad brush though. Not many would condone this crap id imagine.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-02-2006, 09:43 PM
Broken link, try this. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6118-2004Nov22.html)
Ooops!
Thanks for the assist.
:thumbs:
Spider
06-02-2006, 10:00 PM
I heard these remarks , on sirius satalite radio ...... Much ado about nothing , but man this guy got a standing ovation after he made the remarks
spdirty
06-02-2006, 10:09 PM
I heard these remarks , on sirius satalite radio ...... Much ado about nothing , but man this guy got a standing ovation after he made the remarks
I think he should lose his job over it at the very least, and i would hold that belief even if the president that the remarks were directed at was Clinton.
You just can't say that.
Spider
06-02-2006, 10:12 PM
I think he should lose his job over it at the very least, and i would hold that belief even if the president that the remarks were directed at was Clinton.
You just can't say that.
Lose his job ? why saying what he feels ? I gues I better ask , do I have to learn to spell com-you-nist ?
If he said it about Clinton , I still have the same point of view .. much ado about nothing .... Hell W*GS suggested I should blow my head off .. no difference .....
Crushaholic
06-03-2006, 12:59 AM
I think with JFK, it's more of the fascination of the conspiracy. The fact that there is a video game is not evidence that "right wingers" are making fun of JFK...
Spider
06-03-2006, 01:02 AM
I think with JFK, it's more of the fascination of the conspiracy. The fact that there is a video game is not evidence that "right wingers" are making fun of JFK...
I met a few right wingers that would go Democrat if there were more JFK's and trumans in the dem party ......... more truman thugh ;D
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-03-2006, 01:33 AM
I think with JFK, it's more of the fascination of the conspiracy.
Man, that's some pretty weak spin.
Just saying whatever it takes to justify this game in your mind, I guess.
I can only imagine what a different tune you'd be singing if it was a Reagan assassination game and the player was supposed to be John Hinckley.
The fact that there is a video game is not evidence that "right wingers" are making fun of JFK...
Yeah, what am I thinking?
The people who thought of this game are probably hardcore liberals/registered Democrats. :oyvey:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-03-2006, 01:36 AM
The fact that there is a video game is not evidence that "right wingers" are making fun of JFK...
Did you ever see the movie "JFK?"
Do you remember the rednecks who were applauding the idea of assassinating Kennedy?
I notice the people who are denying that these kinds of things happened are all people who are too young to remember what it was like in those days.
spdirty
06-03-2006, 02:25 AM
Did you ever see the movie "JFK?"
Do you remember the rednecks who were applauding the idea of assassinating Kennedy?
I notice the people who are denying that these kinds of things happened are all people who are too young to remember what it was like in those days.
Didnt Oliver Stone diersct that movie?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-03-2006, 02:40 AM
Didnt Oliver Stone diersct that movie?
Yep. :yep:
I was in 10th grade in the gym at the time and our coach told us Kennedy had been shot. I thought he was trying to pull another fast one on us.
When I got to accounting class the entire student body at Sheffield High School was stone cold silent and they had turned the local radio station on and broadcast it throughout the school. Some students and teachers were crying.
At the time I did not know what to think. I was saddended and not sure what or why it happened.
All of the 'rednecks' in our area celebrated for several days since they all despised the Kennedys.
http://www.worldmagblog.com/blog/archives/020557.html
I was too young to really care much about JFK getting shot. I clearly remember watching RFK get popped a few years later and watching my father cheer the assassin and later dad's friends coming over to celebrate the event.
http://www.worldmagblog.com/blog/archives/020557.html
About the best LABF can come up with is "JFK", the movie?!? Puhleeze.
There was a Seinfeld episode that used JFK's assassination as a template for some laughs; is Jerry Seinfeld a "right-winger"?