From Bill Simmons' MailBag: Sitting vs. Standing @ Games

[RhymesayersDU]

This seems like it's always a topic, and when I came across it today, I figured I'd post his thoughts:

Q: What's the final ruling on standing vs. sitting at pro sports games? I'm tired of being told to sit down. I'm tired of telling grown men that if they want a totally unobstructed view of a game, then stay home. Give it to me straight for each of the three leagues that matter, and please, find a way to get these rules posted above every entrance in every sporting arena everywhere.
-- Brunz, New York

SG: Fantastic question. We had a problem with an over-stander at the Clippers games this season -- I'm all for supporting your team, but when you're consistently the only person standing in your section, and you're not drunk, you need to reevaluate things. Anyway, the rules are the same for every sport:

1. When the ball is in play, you can't make a unilateral decision for your section to stand. It's not up to you -- you need 3-4 people in your row backing you up, and everyone else in your section should follow suit within 3-4 seconds. If it doesn't catch, sit down. Or else you're being a jerk.

2. During a big play, you can't jump out of your seat erratically -- like, as somebody is shooting a jump shot (not when the jump shot actually goes in), or as the QB goes back to pass (not as the football is in the air). Try to act like a normal person. It's not hard.

3. I'm all for the whole "stand up, wave your arms and try to get everyone in your section to stand up" routine, a valuable weapon that almost always falls into the wrong hands ... but pick your spots, for God's sake. Try to have some sense of the moment.

4. When there are cheerleaders on the floor/field during a timeout, that doesn't make it OK to stand up and ogle them like you were just released from prison. That means that everyone else will have to stand up to ogle them. ... Basically, you're blowing our cover.

5. Coming out of a timeout, it's not acceptable to stand up, then tug violently at the front of your jersey hoping to get noticed by the guy working the Jumbotron camera. Unless you have a mental problem. Then it's OK.

6. I'm all for standing up and yelling at the referees; I'm the same guy who carries a list of their jersey numbers and names in my wallet. But say your piece, belt out your best "hey, ref, bend over and use your good eye!"-type joke and sit down. Don't turn it into one of those endless Lewis Black rants.

7. If you break any of these rules, and someone screams at you to "sit down," you can't turn around, remain standing and start jawing at that person -- they're just trying to watch the game, you're the one who's blocking them. Be considerate and sit down. Unless you weigh 250-plus and can kick everyone's ass. Then you should do whatever you want.

[scorpio]

Oh man, this is going to get ugly.

[Mile High Shack]

yeah
standing up during a game is a bad thing

what an idiot

[Nuggets4]

yeah
standing up during a game is a bad thing

what an idiot

Simmons is dead on. I have no problem with standing during important parts of games. Hell, I've been the guy standing there trying to get others to stand before. That said, I don't want the idiot in front of me standing up every time someone gets a rebound in the second quarter (which happened at game 3 of the Nugs playoffs -- the same guy who talked on his cell phone during the national anthem).

[Clockwork Orange]

I just want to add that anyone at a game holding up a sign that says "Sportscenter is next" should be ejected from the arena and flogged.

[Pendejo]

I just want to add that anyone at a game holding up a sign that says "Sportscenter is next" should be ejected from the arena and flogged.

Yeah...a session in the bastinado is what those fools deserve. Although I do get a kick out of the people who hold up signs that say "The Guy Behind Me Can't See!!!"

[Cito Pelon]

Ah, the age old problem - what do you do with the 10% that f it up for everybody else?

[RhymesayersDU]

I just want to add that anyone at a game holding up a sign that says "Sportscenter is next" should be ejected from the arena and flogged.
I'll admit, anytime I have lower level tickets to anything, I'm always tempted to do that.

[Clockwork Orange]

I'll admit, anytime I have lower level tickets to anything, I'm always tempted to do that.

Resist the urge. It stopped being clever by about 1988.

[youcandoit1687]

he forgot to say that student sections must remain standing at all times. i agree with the "not standing up in the middle of a play". standing up is for 3rd downs, bases loaded, about to regain the lead, and any crucial last few minutes moments.

[Ratboy]

I rarely sit down during football games, If someone says "sit down" I'm giving them the 'Plummer'.

[Nuggets4]

he forgot to say that student sections must remain standing at all times.

Agreed 100%. Isn't that one of the Ten Commandments anyway? Right after "Thou Shalt Not Murder" and before "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery", right?

[youcandoit1687]

Agreed 100%. Isn't that one of the Ten Commandments anyway? Right after "Thou Shalt Not Murder" and before "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery", right?

in my football religion, it is

[Kaylore]

It really depends on where you sit. If you sit anywhere in the ower bowl, especially in the endzones, you should expect full time standing. That doesn't mean that they will, you should just expect it.

If the other team is on the field, you had better be on your feet and making noise extra man style.

Anyone that asks you to sit down, especially when others around you are standing, is in the wrong place.

Personally I don't stand all the time. There are moments when the actions slows a little or something un-related is happening. However, one should stand and support their team at all times appropriate.

[Paladin]

Maybe instead of seats, they should just have T-bars.

[RhymesayersDU]

If the other team is on the field, you had better be on your feet and making noise extra man style.

Here's a question though: What about stomping your feet, making thunder or whatever? When the Broncos are on defense, I'm usually sitting stomping my feet non-stop.

Now granted, if the other team has a crucial third down, or is at the goal line and threatening to score, I'm up... But for just a random play, I think sitting and stomping is acceptable.

Anyways, I'm not one who stands for the whole game. I usually stand for big plays, or obviously after a big play I'll jump out of my seat.

[watermock]

Standing and shaking the stadium makes me spill mustard and makes my $6.00 beer flatter than ever. You can't bring in a .45 to clear the view so if you want to see, you have to stand.

It's pretty common to stand, but constant standing isn't appropriate anyway.

[-Slap-]

Simmons is dead on. I have no problem with standing during important parts of games. Hell, I've been the guy standing there trying to get others to stand before. That said, I don't want the idiot in front of me standing up every time someone gets a rebound in the second quarter (which happened at game 3 of the Nugs playoffs -- the same guy who talked on his cell phone during the national anthem).
Thank you! I'm surprised a large contingent of knuckleheads on this board aren't rushing in to scream that you're not a real fan. The jerkoffs who only attend games sporadically and have no idea when its appropriate to stand up are simply ignorant.

The morons who attend a lot of games and have designated themselves unofficial team yell leaders are generally just egomaniacs who like a lot of personal attention. I went to a Raider game one time and some jackass kept trying to climb up on top of a railing so everybody could look at him. Then he acted all put out when the security guard came over and told him to get down. I was praying the asshole would fall off and bash his skull wide open. Of course, he would have hired some sleazy attorney and sued everybody in town, plus the NFL and the networks covering the game, if that would have happened.

I love the indignant responses, too. "If you don't like it, you shouldn't be at the stadium."

Listen, you snotnosed punks, not everybody who attends a Bronco game is physically capable of standing up on every down for four hours. Some of these people have been attending games since 1960, while you were still swimming around in your daddy's balls. Obstructing the view of some elderly people all game long and then acting tough about it doesn't make you a badass or a superfan. It just means you're an asshole and I hope you tumble down the concourse face first into a metal railing.

You can make about 90% as much noise seated as you can standing. I never stop screaming when the opposing offense has the ball. It doesn't matter if the score is tied in the fourth quarter or we're up (or down) 20 points before halftime. I stand and celebrate big plays like everybody else, but I don't feel the need to show the people behind me my ass on 2nd and ten from midfield in the second quarter.

[Jason in LA]

This seems like it's always a topic, and when I came across it today, I figured I'd post his thoughts:

Q: What's the final ruling on standing vs. sitting at pro sports games? I'm tired of being told to sit down. I'm tired of telling grown men that if they want a totally unobstructed view of a game, then stay home. Give it to me straight for each of the three leagues that matter, and please, find a way to get these rules posted above every entrance in every sporting arena everywhere.
-- Brunz, New York

SG: Fantastic question. We had a problem with an over-stander at the Clippers games this season -- I'm all for supporting your team, but when you're consistently the only person standing in your section, and you're not drunk, you need to reevaluate things. Anyway, the rules are the same for every sport:

1. When the ball is in play, you can't make a unilateral decision for your section to stand. It's not up to you -- you need 3-4 people in your row backing you up, and everyone else in your section should follow suit within 3-4 seconds. If it doesn't catch, sit down. Or else you're being a jerk.

2. During a big play, you can't jump out of your seat erratically -- like, as somebody is shooting a jump shot (not when the jump shot actually goes in), or as the QB goes back to pass (not as the football is in the air). Try to act like a normal person. It's not hard.

3. I'm all for the whole "stand up, wave your arms and try to get everyone in your section to stand up" routine, a valuable weapon that almost always falls into the wrong hands ... but pick your spots, for God's sake. Try to have some sense of the moment.

4. When there are cheerleaders on the floor/field during a timeout, that doesn't make it OK to stand up and ogle them like you were just released from prison. That means that everyone else will have to stand up to ogle them. ... Basically, you're blowing our cover.

5. Coming out of a timeout, it's not acceptable to stand up, then tug violently at the front of your jersey hoping to get noticed by the guy working the Jumbotron camera. Unless you have a mental problem. Then it's OK.

6. I'm all for standing up and yelling at the referees; I'm the same guy who carries a list of their jersey numbers and names in my wallet. But say your piece, belt out your best "hey, ref, bend over and use your good eye!"-type joke and sit down. Don't turn it into one of those endless Lewis Black rants.

7. If you break any of these rules, and someone screams at you to "sit down," you can't turn around, remain standing and start jawing at that person -- they're just trying to watch the game, you're the one who's blocking them. Be considerate and sit down. Unless you weigh 250-plus and can kick everyone's ass. Then you should do whatever you want.

These should be man laws.

There are right and wrong times to stand. I'd say these rules broke it down pretty good.

[Florida_Bronco]

(which happened at game 3 of the Nugs playoffs -- the same guy who talked on his cell phone during the national anthem).

Did anybody say anything to him about that?

[watermock]

Even watching a big play on TV I will instinctively rise. I don't have a problem with people rising in critical moments, but it's rude to constantly stand. It's kinda a fine line. It's such a domino effect as well.

[youcandoit1687]

Even watching a big play on TV I will instinctively rise. I don't have a problem with people rising in critical moments, but it's rude to constantly stand. It's kinda a fine line. It's such a domino effect as well.

these instinct stands should be universally felt. it depends on what it is. a long, high thrown ball, u have to stay seated and stand up after the completion. but a big run, once he has one man or no men to beat, u should stand up then. short range TD scores, u have to wait until the play is over unless already standing as a whole before the play

[Crowpointer]

[QUOTE=-Slap-].
"Some of these people have been attending games since 1960, while you were still swimming around in your daddy's balls. Obstructing the view of some elderly people all game long and then acting tough about it doesn't make you a badass or a superfan. It just means you're an a-hole and I hope you tumble down the concourse face first into a metal railing."

Slap, you are hands down the best poster on this board. You make your point (which I agree with) but in hilarious way. I laughed for 5 minutes after reading "swimming in your daddy's balls" Keep em coming.

[Nuggets4]

Did anybody say anything to him about that?

When the anthem first started, someone loudly said "Shut up", but he was too oblivious. I personally didn't say anything because I didn't want to draw any more attention to the incident. I felt that speaking up would have been even more disrespectful to the anthem at that point.

I did throw an inflatable thunderstick at him though.

[-Slap-]

[QUOTE=-Slap-].
"Some of these people have been attending games since 1960, while you were still swimming around in your daddy's balls. Obstructing the view of some elderly people all game long and then acting tough about it doesn't make you a badass or a superfan. It just means you're an a-hole and I hope you tumble down the concourse face first into a metal railing."

Slap, you are hands down the best poster on this board. You make your point (which I agree with) but in hilarious way. I laughed for 5 minutes after reading "swimming in your daddy's balls" Keep em coming.

Thanks, Crowpointer. Its been our good fortune to have only knowledgable and classy Patriot fans on this board. That's arguably the the best avatar on the Mane, too.

[Cito Pelon]

Standing up is for when the play is over. Then you stand up and cheer and turn to your neighbor and give high fives. If you want to stand up and pace, if you have that much energy to burn off, you go to the ingresses to the seating sections and hang out with the ushers, have a smoke, whatever. Don't f it up for everybody else because you'll pee your panties if you have to sit still for 30 seconds straight.

[Tom Foolery]

There are two sides to this argument and both sides are right.

All fans paid money to attend the game. Seating is optional. Courtesy is not a law.

The elderly folks who have been going since 1960 understand that some of the folks in the stadium are not very courteous. They have no more right to tell someone to sit down than anyone standing has the right to tell people to stand up. You may ask, but that does not mean you will get the response you desire.

There is no "appropriate" time to stand. Judging purely by the responses on this thread, it is clear that not all of us agree on what is "appropriate" times to stand, therefore since we cant all agree, there is no appropriate time. Whenever you feel the need to stand, go for it. If you dont feel the need to be courteous, dont be. Just remember, what comes around goes around and these things have their way of making the rounds right back to you. Next time, you may be at the game and a four hundred pound monster is standing in front of you being real obnoxious preventing you from seeing the game that you paid money to see live. It will happen, and if you have in turn been that obnoxious ass, then hopefully it happens to you a lot.

But, by all means, stand whenever you want for however long you want. If it bothers no one, fine. If it does bother someone, thats fine too. You do what you wish with the seat that you paid for. Dont get pissed when someone beats your ass though, and certainly dont get pissed when the same thing happens to you.

[watermock]

I will give my take again, and again it's a fine line. It's intuitive to me. A matter of judgement. If an eldery couple are behind me I might be inclined to stay down more than if you have crazies in front or behind. Crowds rise and fall all the time, it's usually not an issue but IMO there isn't a reason to stand constantly. It actually detracts from the drama. I will jump and whoot but generally prefer to sit but if someone stands in front, I just get up too. Like I said, it's a fine line. If everyone is standing on their feet, what is the point?

Big events like goal line stuff, late stuff, ect...that's when you get on your feet...critical moments in the game, or to celebrate a big play, i.e. a champ huge interception that goes 102 yards and has to be reviewed.

[12th man]

If im at Mile High, im standing. If people can't see behind me, they can stand up. problem solved. Like that writter said if the guy is like 250 and can kick your ass leave him a lone. yeah, so im pretty close to 250, im about 230, so don't tell me to sit down cause I'll go ape sh1t on somebody yelling at me. just kidding.

[watermock]

I could care if your 450, if your a prick I will bloody your nose.

[Florida_Bronco]

I could care if your 450, if your a prick I will bloody your nose.

::)

[-Slap-]

I could see Mock swinging on a small woman or a thin teenage boy, but there's no way on earth that half a fag would raise his hand in anger to a man. It would never happen. Piss would roll down his leg at the notion.

[watermock]

Whatever punk.

[Nuggets4]

If im at Mile High, im standing. If people can't see behind me, they can stand up. problem solved. Like that writter said if the guy is like 250 and can kick your ass leave him a lone. yeah, so im pretty close to 250, im about 230, so don't tell me to sit down cause I'll go ape sh1t on somebody yelling at me. just kidding.

See, that's precisely why I make sure I'm extra courteous. I'm 6'6", 225 lbs.. Inevitably, there's always a drunk person looking for a reason to try to act tough, and if I give it to him there's going to be a problem. It's best to avoid those situations.

[youcandoit1687]

See, that's precisely why I make sure I'm extra courteous. I'm 6'6", 225 lbs.. Inevitably, there's always a drunk person looking for a reason to try to act tough, and if I give it to him there's going to be a problem. It's best to avoid those situations.

exactly. and the old people look at u and are afraid. lol it sux being bigger than other people in that respect

[-Slap-]

exactly. and the old people look at u and are afraid. lol it sux being bigger than other people in that respect
They're also afraid of Nugs because he opens beer bottles with his eye socket.

[youcandoit1687]

They're also afraid of Nugs because he opens beer bottles with his eye socket.

psh, i can do that by wrinkling my forehead haha

[Cito Pelon]

If im at Mile High, im standing. If people can't see behind me, they can stand up. problem solved. Like that writter said if the guy is like 250 and can kick your ass leave him a lone. yeah, so im pretty close to 250, im about 230, so don't tell me to sit down cause I'll go ape sh1t on somebody yelling at me. just kidding.

12th man, I read that, and I think to myself, "This is why I have a concealed weapons permit." You can get f'd up pretty quick, my friend, so stay cool, eh?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The first KC game I ever attended, I had a sign with me.

I was in the upper deck.

I learned a valuable lesson that day from the assholes behind me.

"I don't want to see your sign, I want to see the game."

When I left my seat at halftime and returned later, the sign was gone, presumably tossed over the wall of Arrowhead.

Stadiums should restrict signs to the front row of each deck. Check tickets at the gate, and if someone has an enormous sign and isn't sitting in the front row, they have to leave the sign outside.

[Cito Pelon]

I could see Mock swinging on a small woman or a thin teenage boy, but there's no way on earth that half a fag would raise his hand in anger to a man. It would never happen. Piss would roll down his leg at the notion.

Solid punch, Slap. :thumbs:

[-Slap-]

The first KC game I ever attended, I had a sign with me.

I was in the upper deck.

I learned a valuable lesson that day from the a-holes behind me.

"I don't want to see your sign, I want to see the game."

When I left my seat at halftime and returned later, the sign was gone, presumably tossed over the wall of Arrowhead.


Bass ackwards Chiefs fans threw the sign over the wall instead of Knob.

[Nuggets4]

They're also afraid of Nugs because he opens beer bottles with his eye socket.

Not anymore. Now I just have to glare at the beer bottle and it opens itself.

[RhymesayersDU]

Not anymore. Now I just have to glare at the beer bottle and it opens itself.
You're improving, but still not on Chuck Norris' level. He only has to think to himself that he wants to drink, and the beer bottle will open.

[Kaylore]

I love the indignant responses, too. "If you don't like it, you shouldn't be at the stadium."

Listen, you snotnosed punks, not everybody who attends a Bronco game is physically capable of standing up on every down for four hours. Some of these people have been attending games since 1960, while you were still swimming around in your daddy's balls. Obstructing the view of some elderly people all game long and then acting tough about it doesn't make you a badass or a superfan. It just means you're an a-hole and I hope you tumble down the concourse face first into a metal railing.
While I agree, I certainly don't remember a single person on this board complaining about the disabled or the elderly not doing jumping jacks for the Broncos. Perhaps we're refering to people like the fourty-something year-old guy who was complaining that I stood up when Mike Anderson Broke the big run for the Touchdown against the Chiefs on Monday Night. The entire stadium leaped to their feet (except this guy and the Chief fans).


Certainly I doubt there isn't a fan here who wouldn't sit if they were in front of an elderly/disabled person. And certainly you shouldn't be standing up every time your team sinks a shot, gets a first down, or strikes out the batter. But If you're going to a sporting event and are expecting people to to remain seated the whole time so you can have a pleasant view and enjoy your latte', you are at the wrong venue.

/whipes snot-nose.

[-Slap-]

While I agree, I certainly don't remember a single person on this board complaining about the disabled or the elderly not doing jumping jacks for the Broncos. Perhaps we're refering to people like the fourty-something year-old guy who was complaining that I stood up when Mike Anderson Broke the big run for the Touchdown against the Chiefs on Monday Night. The entire stadium leaped to their feet (except this guy and the Chief fans).


Certainly I doubt there isn't a fan here who wouldn't sit if they were in front of an elderly/disabled person. And certainly you shouldn't be standing up every time your team sinks a shot, gets a first down, or strikes out the batter. But If you're going to a sporting event and are expecting people to to remain seated the whole time so you can have a pleasant view and enjoy your latte', you are at the wrong venue.

/whipes snot-nose.
Having read your previous post on this thread, I would say your opinion of when standing is appropriate is about the same as mine. I've also read previous threads on this board where people say they're going to stand all game long if they please and **** what anybody else has to say about it. Then this troglodyte mentality is swiftly echoed by every other Johnny Badass who has an account on this site. Usually, most stridently, by the guys who make it out to one game every ten years or so.

[Kaylore]

Having read your previous post on this thread, I would say your opinion of when standing is appropriate is about the same as mine. I've also read previous threads on this board where people say they're going to stand all game long if they please and **** what anybody else has to say about it. Then this troglodyte mentality is swiftly echoed by every other Johnny Badass who has an account on this site. Usually, most stridently, by the guys who make it out to one game every ten years or so.
I read you. You get that stuff a lot at pre-season games. Guys who have season tickets and don't really want to go so they give them to their drunk brother. Drunk guys climbing on crap. People cheering at weird times and starting the wave during awkward situations. At the Colts game this fat, drunk white trash lady two rows behind me and my brother felt it necessary to squeal "GIT 'EM!!!" every time a Colt player of any position was running with ball. Every time. Every play. All game long. "GIT 'EM!!!!!" :oyvey:

[youcandoit1687]

I read you. You get that stuff a lot at pre-season games. Guys who have season tickets and don't really want to go so they give them to their drunk brother. Drunk guys climbing on crap. People cheering at weird times and starting the wave during awkward situations. At the Colts game this fat, drunk white trash lady two rows behind me and my brother felt it necessary to squeal "GIT 'EM!!!" every time a Colt player of any position was running with ball. Every time. Every play. All game long. "GIT 'EM!!!!!" :oyvey:

why was bob's wife at the game?

[Florida_Bronco]

why was bob's wife at the game?

You retard, Bob is gay!


:spit:

[youcandoit1687]

dam n, i forgot, are u sure it wasnt some kinda cross dresser. i mean u sed white trash, could get that mistaken with a crossdresser. speaking of crossdresser, i saw the biggest woman staache, the other day. me and a friend were at a grocery store and saw like a freakin 10 o'clock shadow on this lady. there are college guys who dont have it that dark. it was so disgusting. id hate to be her. that was off topic but needed to share that interesting tid bit about chiefs/raiders fans here in central california

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You retard, Bob is gay!


:spit:

I am?

[SoCalBronco]

why was bob's wife at the game?

Because its not her choice. She is attached to his wrists.

[Florida_Bronco]

I am?

Everyone knows it but you.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Everyone knows it but you.

They do?

[Florida_Bronco]

They do?

Shall we start a poll?

[youcandoit1687]

Shall we start a poll?

i vote yes. make sure u include something like....not sure/unclassifiable and of course brian griese

[Florida_Bronco]

i vote yes. make sure u include something like....not sure/unclassifiable and of course brian griese

:thanku:

[Florida_Bronco]

Check sig for all the evidence you need that Bob is gay.

[-Slap-]

What is Bob?

A - Male
B - Female
C - Hermaphrodite
D - No discernable genitalia

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Shall we start a poll?

Why not?

[Florida_Bronco]

What is Bob?

A - Male
B - Female
C - Hermaphrodite
D - No discernable genitalia

I'd have to say "D"

[Florida_Bronco]

Why not?

Ya know, I was gonna let it go, but you just don't know when to quit.

[SoCalBronco]

Check sig for all the evidence you need that Bob is gay.

My sig also provides more evidence.

[Florida_Bronco]

My sig also provides more evidence.

Think we should go ahead and start the poll? :wiggle:

[youcandoit1687]

Think we should go ahead and start the poll? :wiggle:

lol yes, its apparent that bob wants to know waht we think of him...eeek maybe not, i think it could be turning him on or something

[Cito Pelon]

Keep your ass in the chair until the play is over. I realize some people pee their pants like little kids if they have to sit still too long. So if you tend that way, go stand with the ushers at the ingresses to the seating areas. Traditionally, that's what people with ants in their pants do. If you can hold your water til half time keep your ass in in the chair.

[12th man]

12th man, I read that, and I think to myself, "This is why I have a concealed weapons permit." You can get f'd up pretty quick, my friend, so stay cool, eh?

First off I said I was just kidding. I would never harm anyone just for them telling me to sit down. I probably wouldn't listen to them anyway. so get over it and put you macho bs aside. ok?

[Steve Sewell]

There are two sides to this argument and both sides are right.

All fans paid money to attend the game. Seating is optional. Courtesy is not a law.

The elderly folks who have been going since 1960 understand that some of the folks in the stadium are not very courteous. They have no more right to tell someone to sit down than anyone standing has the right to tell people to stand up. You may ask, but that does not mean you will get the response you desire.

There is no "appropriate" time to stand. Judging purely by the responses on this thread, it is clear that not all of us agree on what is "appropriate" times to stand, therefore since we cant all agree, there is no appropriate time. Whenever you feel the need to stand, go for it. If you dont feel the need to be courteous, dont be. Just remember, what comes around goes around and these things have their way of making the rounds right back to you. Next time, you may be at the game and a four hundred pound monster is standing in front of you being real obnoxious preventing you from seeing the game that you paid money to see live. It will happen, and if you have in turn been that obnoxious ass, then hopefully it happens to you a lot.

But, by all means, stand whenever you want for however long you want. If it bothers no one, fine. If it does bother someone, thats fine too. You do what you wish with the seat that you paid for. Dont get pissed when someone beats your ass though, and certainly dont get pissed when the same thing happens to you.


yes, the golden rule...some people are just too selfish or self-righteous to realize that it would probably piss them off to now end if someone was doing the same to them.

Me, I'm an "instinct stander"...Stand when you are excited, and chances are everyone else wil be standing as welll. Some people seem to think they are the worlds greatest fan and want to show it by being the cheerleader...I hate people who are trying to become the next Leprechaun or the next Barrelman...there are too many to count...

[Steve Sewell]

these instinct stands should be universally felt. it depends on what it is. a long, high thrown ball, u have to stay seated and stand up after the completion. but a big run, once he has one man or no men to beat, u should stand up then. short range TD scores, u have to wait until the play is over unless already standing as a whole before the play

Usually on a long throw, people stand while the ball is in the air, which forces everyone else to stand as well. It's a chain reaction...if only the jackass in the front row realized that he had a decent view, he would wait until the catch.

That being said...my most hated person is the dad who is a total azzhole at the game in front of his kids. I have seen many of these instances, but the most recent sticks out in my mind...I was at a minor league game tonight, and they let the kids run the bases after the ballgame. Well, I'm waiting there with my two boys and their grandpa in line to go on the field (and it's a huge line), and when we get toward the front, this dude with his 3 punk kids cuts in front of us in line. I didn't say anything to the dude, but my first thought was "well, that's a nice lesson for your kids...teach them to be cheaters!". I was really close to saying something, but at the last second, I decided it wasn't worth it! I mean, the guy probably already knew that he was a total azzhole...he didn't need someone to reaffirm it for him!

[Steve Sewell]

The first KC game I ever attended, I had a sign with me.

I was in the upper deck.

I learned a valuable lesson that day from the a-holes behind me.

"I don't want to see your sign, I want to see the game."

When I left my seat at halftime and returned later, the sign was gone, presumably tossed over the wall of Arrowhead.

Stadiums should restrict signs to the front row of each deck. Check tickets at the gate, and if someone has an enormous sign and isn't sitting in the front row, they have to leave the sign outside.


Did your sign say "NO WAY, ELWAY" or something gay like that?

[youcandoit1687]

yes, the golden rule...some people are just too selfish or self-righteous to realize that it would probably piss them off to now end if someone was doing the same to them.

Me, I'm an "instinct stander"...Stand when you are excited, and chances are everyone else wil be standing as welll. Some people seem to think they are the worlds greatest fan and want to show it by being the cheerleader...I hate people who are trying to become the next Leprechaun or the next Barrelman...there are too many to count...

exactly, if u have to think about it, u prob shouldnt do it. if ur into the game, ull stand when u should stand, yell when u should yell, etc.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Did your sign say "NO WAY, ELWAY" or something gay like that?

Nah...it was really gay. I'm not repeating it. It was double-sided, I'll tell you that much.

[youcandoit1687]

Nah...it was really gay. I'm not repeating it. It was double-sided, I'll tell you that much.

whens that poll coming out florida?(eek a florida-run poll jk)

[Florida_Bronco]

whens that poll coming out florida?(eek a florida-run poll jk)

I'm thinking it's coming out today.

[youcandoit1687]

damn its late for u man, what 625? im not sure why im still up lol im sleepin in tm

[Florida_Bronco]

damn its late for u man, what 625? im not sure why im still up lol im sleepin in tm

Yeah I've been on and off most the night. Sleep late yesterday so I'm still running on a few cylinders.

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yes, the golden rule...some people are just too selfish or self-righteous to realize that it would probably piss them off to now end if someone was doing the same to them.

Me, I'm an "instinct stander"...Stand when you are excited, and chances are everyone else wil be standing as welll. Some people seem to think they are the worlds greatest fan and want to show it by being the cheerleader...I hate people who are trying to become the next Leprechaun or the next Barrelman...there are too many to count...
I couldn't agree more.

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Usually on a long throw, people stand while the ball is in the air, which forces everyone else to stand as well. It's a chain reaction...if only the jackass in the front row realized that he had a decent view, he would wait until the catch.

That being said...my most hated person is the dad who is a total azzhole at the game in front of his kids. I have seen many of these instances, but the most recent sticks out in my mind...I was at a minor league game tonight, and they let the kids run the bases after the ballgame. Well, I'm waiting there with my two boys and their grandpa in line to go on the field (and it's a huge line), and when we get toward the front, this dude with his 3 punk kids cuts in front of us in line. I didn't say anything to the dude, but my first thought was "well, that's a nice lesson for your kids...teach them to be cheaters!". I was really close to saying something, but at the last second, I decided it wasn't worth it! I mean, the guy probably already knew that he was a total azzhole...he didn't need someone to reaffirm it for him!
Saying something to a clueless fool like that is pointless. You would have been doing him a favor. He would have told the next hundred people he talked to that you the jerk and he was some kind of hero. He would believe it, too.

[baja]

I could see Mock swinging on a small woman or a thin teenage boy, but there's no way on earth that<b> half a fag</b> would raise his hand in anger to a man. It would never happen. Piss would roll down his leg at the notion.

What is half a fag? Is that someone that will pitch but not catch or a fag only during months with an "R" in them or what?

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What is half a fag? Is that someone that will pitch but not catch or a fag only during months with an "R" in them or what?
Its one of those phrases with a dual meaning. It could mean twice as much or half as much. In this case, its twice as much. Bi-weekly would be a good example.

[Clockwork Orange]

Of course there's always the flip side of the coin, the people who don't want to stand at any time and will either give you death stares or make rude comments in your direction. These are the people who are under the impression that being at a sporting event is the same as being in a movie theater.

I've told the story before about the time I went to a hockey game and nearly got into a scrap with some prick in front of me who didn't like the fact that I was cheering too much. I wasn't using any profanity or vulgarities, nope, this prick just wanted quiet.......at a hockey game. Even more amazing that this guy was with his wife and kids. So he was actually ready to get into a fight, get ejected and arrested all in front of his kids just to make the point that he wants the volume kept at a minimal level when he graces the arena with his presence. It should also be noted that none of them stood up when goals were scored, fights broke out, Forsberg had a breakaway (on which he scored his 3rd goal of the game to complete the hat trick), or as the final seconds were ticking down. Nothing. They stood up to leave when the game was over.

It saddens me to know that those two kids are probably going to be ****ty fans when they grow up because their pappy didn't teach them any better. Maybe they'll learn something and do what he should have, watch the games at home.

[Clockwork Orange]

Shall we start a poll?

If it involves Bob, you know it'll be smoking poll.

[RhymesayersDU]

If it involves Bob, you know it'll be smoking poll.
LOL LOL LOL

Rack it.

[Florida_Bronco]

If it involves Bob, you know it'll be smoking poll.

:rofl: LOL

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Of course there's always the flip side of the coin, the people who don't want to stand at any time and will either give you death stares or make rude comments in your direction. These are the people who are under the impression that being at a sporting event is the same as being in a movie theater.

I've told the story before about the time I went to a hockey game and nearly got into a scrap with some prick in front of me who didn't like the fact that I was cheering too much. I wasn't using any profanity or vulgarities, nope, this prick just wanted quiet.......at a hockey game. Even more amazing that this guy was with his wife and kids. So he was actually ready to get into a fight, get ejected and arrested all in front of his kids just to make the point that he wants the volume kept at a minimal level when he graces the arena with his presence. It should also be noted that none of them stood up when goals were scored, fights broke out, Forsberg had a breakaway (on which he scored his 3rd goal of the game to complete the hat trick), or as the final seconds were ticking down. Nothing. They stood up to leave when the game was over.

It saddens me to know that those two kids are probably going to be ****ty fans when they grow up because their pappy didn't teach them any better. Maybe they'll learn something and do what he should have, watch the games at home.
That's pretty bizarre. Frustrated librarian perhaps?

We had season tickets to the IHL Thunder for a couple years. My buddy dubbed the seats immediately in front of mine The Blast Zone. We were lined up squarely with the opposing teams goal crease for two periods each game and we got under many a bush leaguer's mask.

[Clockwork Orange]

That's pretty bizarre. Frustrated librarian perhaps?

We had season tickets to the IHL Thunder for a couple years. My buddy dubbed the seats immediately in front of mine The Blast Zone. We were lined up squarely with the opposing teams goal crease for two periods each game and we got under many a bush leaguer's mask.

For the life of me, I'll never figure out what that guy's deal was. I haven't seen him at a game since, so maybe he figured out that he's much better off at home where he can control the conditions around him while the game is on. I even went so far as to ask my buddy who's an usher at Pepsi Center if I was violating any rules and was told absolutely not. He also told me that I should have came and got him during that situation and he'd have had the guy removed for attempting to instigate a fight.

Didn't you say before that one of the only goaltenders who seemed immune to your verbal blasts was Tommy Salo?