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dragondawg
05-23-2006, 07:37 PM
just saw a clip on the news about it, some guy saying plummer got out of his car and kicked the other guy's tires or something

spdirty
05-23-2006, 07:39 PM
How do you "hick" a tire?

Man-Goblin
05-23-2006, 07:41 PM
Was it Jay Cutler's car?

plummershelper
05-23-2006, 07:41 PM
You sing country music, call hogs, and dress the tire in flannel

scorpio
05-23-2006, 07:42 PM
Was it Jay Cutler's car?


From the news commercial it was some crusty old guy, probably deserved it.

crazyhorse
05-23-2006, 07:45 PM
He should have just flipped him "the bird".

Denver fans don't mind that.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-23-2006, 07:45 PM
I heard that Plummer tried to kick the tires but missed and hit the hubcap.

crazyhorse
05-23-2006, 07:48 PM
I heard that Plummer tried to kick the tires but missed and hit the hubcap.

Intercepted!

Probably was using his left foot.

Pat Bowlen
05-23-2006, 07:56 PM
I heard Eric Warfield was driving. The crusy old guy was probably Vermeil.

crazyhorse
05-23-2006, 08:08 PM
I heard Eric Warfield was driving. The crusy old guy was probably Vermeil.

Vermiel would have stomped Plummers ass.

plummershelper
05-23-2006, 08:09 PM
Vermiel would have started crying about Jake yelling at him

scorpio
05-23-2006, 08:10 PM
Vermiel would have stomped Plummers ass.


Only if Plummer slipped on the puddle of tears

Lev Vyvanse
05-23-2006, 08:13 PM
http://www.sportsgoons.com/Images/volume3/3_33/chiefs_coach_dick_vermeil.gif

I'm sorry jake.

ludo21
05-23-2006, 08:18 PM
Ha!

So what really happened?? Anyone in Denver know for sure yet?

He is a football player, so no big deal anyway.

MechanicalBull
05-23-2006, 08:36 PM
I heard that Plummer tried to kick the tires but missed and hit the hubcap.

I must admit I did chuckle a little when reading that. Now we all know we can't have these bad character guys on our team. Lets cut him and start Cutler. :rofl:

All seriousness now does anyone have an update on the story?

Tredici
05-23-2006, 09:18 PM
It happened on April 20th. Apparently Jake drives as erratically as he QB's. And doesn't like it when someone honks at him when he cuts them off.

12th man
05-23-2006, 09:34 PM
Right on. The way some people drive, they deserve a lot more than a kick in the tire. more like a kick to the head.

Ratboy
05-23-2006, 09:36 PM
6 in 06!

Kaylore
05-23-2006, 10:26 PM
Only if Plummer slipped on the puddle of tears
LOL

ZachKC
05-23-2006, 10:48 PM
I heard Eric Warfield was driving. The crusy old guy was probably Vermeil.
He was getting a bit crusy in his old age.

Steve Sewell
05-23-2006, 10:54 PM
just saw a clip on the news about it, some guy saying plummer got out of his car and hicked the other guy's tires or something

do you have a link? Which news station was it? The clips are usually on their websites. Thanks.

Orange_Beard
05-23-2006, 11:03 PM
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=649f60dd-0abe-421a-0098-90b3970f9465&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

It's on 9news.

Tyrant
05-23-2006, 11:05 PM
April 20th huh?

Shanny had probably told him about their plans to take Cutler that morning putting him in a testy mood.

Steve Sewell
05-23-2006, 11:09 PM
http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=649f60dd-0abe-421a-0098-90b3970f9465&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

It's on 9news.

Thanks!

Steve Sewell
05-23-2006, 11:12 PM
Thanks!
Who was the English major that wrote that gem? Don't they have proofreaders at 9News? LMAO...

Kaylore
05-23-2006, 11:34 PM
Who was the English major that wrote that gem? Don't they have proofreaders at 9News? LMAO...
It's Mock.

"Plummer told investigators he was re-ended..."

-Slap-
05-23-2006, 11:46 PM
April 20th huh?

Shanny had probably told him about their plans to take Cutler that morning putting him in a testy mood.
That is some interesting timing, huh?

According to that article, he did a lot more than just kick the guy's car. He also backed into him on purpose and drove away. Kind of a small point to omit.

-Slap-
05-23-2006, 11:49 PM
The driver of a gray Honda got of his vehicle kicked the front of the victim's vehicle. He then put his vehicle in reverse and backed into the front of the victim's vehicle before driving away.

:nono:

The guy is lucky. 30 years ago, Alzado would have beaten him bloody.

ak1971
05-24-2006, 12:12 AM
4/20? Wow...this one is ripe for the Plummer haters

Bob's your Information Minister
05-24-2006, 12:14 AM
Plummer issued summons in alleged road rage incident

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) _ Denver Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer was issued a summons for an alleged road-rage incident in April, Englewood police said Tuesday.

Investigator John Hoehler said Plummer was issued the misdemeanor summons Friday, after being contacted at his home in Cherry Hills Village.

The summons stems from a minor crash on April 20 in this suburb south of Denver.

A message left for Plummer through the Broncos was not immediately returned Tuesday night.

A man told authorities he was involved in a road-rage incident with the driver of a Honda. When the two cars stopped at a red light, the Honda's driver got out and kicked the front of the man's vehicle.

The driver then got back into his vehicle, put it in reverse and hit the front of the man's car, Hoehler said. A witness copied the license plate number of the gray Honda, which was listed to Plummer.

When contacted by police, Plummer said he was involved in a rear-end crash, not road rage.

"He went out and looked and didn't see any damage so he didn't report it," Hoehler said.

After he left the scene he told investigators he changed his mind and called 911 to report the accident and said he was told it would be taken care of.

Hoehler said there was a delay in issuing the summons because the officer in charge of the case was busy and didn't get a chance to pursue the case until recently.

No specific court date for Plummer has been given.

-Slap-
05-24-2006, 12:28 AM
I assume the guy he hit has already been contacted by the law firm of Dew, Cheatam and Howe.

Popps
05-24-2006, 02:18 AM
After he left the scene he told investigators he changed his mind and called 911 to report the accident and said he was told it would be taken care of.







Sounds legit.

Kaylore
05-24-2006, 02:20 AM
This won't be a big deal, but as Slap pointed out already, some lawyers are going to try and make it one.

Kaylore
05-24-2006, 02:31 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3858195

denver broncos
Broncos QB in hit-run citation
Plummer summoned over purported April road rage incident
By Jim Kirksey
Denver Post Staff Writer

Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer has been issued a summons by the Englewood police in connection with a purported "road-rage-type incident" last month, investigator John Hoehler said Tuesday night.

Police were sent to East Hampden Avenue and Downing Street on April 20 after a report of a hit-and-run accident. The victim of the incident - identified by Fox 31 News as Doug Stone - told officers he had been involved in a road rage incident with the driver of a gray Honda van.

When the van stopped at a red light, the driver got out and kicked the front of Stone's truck. The man then got back into the Honda, put it in reverse and hit the front of Stone's vehicle causing minor damage, then left the scene, Hoehler said.

"When he backed into my truck, he broke my license-plate frame," Stone told Fox 31.

Stone said he saw the gray Honda cut off three other drivers before he was cut off.

"He pulled in front of me," Stone said. "I wasn't very polite. I did honk my horn quite a bit."

Stone also said, "He actually kicked the front of the truck and said, 'Stay off my tail.' He proceeded to get back into his van, he put it in reverse and backed right into the bumper and actually pushed there for 10 seconds and then took off."

A witness - identified by Fox 31 as Marjorie Casse - got the license-plate number of the van and reported it to police, he said.

"I was just very appalled," Casse told the station. "I couldn't believe what I saw."

The plate was listed to Jason "Jake" Plummer of Cherry Hills Village.

"Jake Plummer?" Stone said. "Yeah, it would surprise me. Was it Jake Plummer?"

Casse said, "Being who he is, he should

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really be a role model, and I'm really shocked that he would do such a thing."

Hoehler said Plummer couldn't be contacted initially, but was contacted at his home Friday.

"Mr. Plummer's recollection of the incident was not as reported by the victim and independent witness," Hoehler said.

When contacted by police, Plummer said he was involved in a rear-end crash.

"He went out and looked and didn't see any damage so he didn't report it," Hoehler said.

After he left the scene he told investigators he changed his mind and called 911 to report the accident.

Plummer was served an Englewood Municipal Summons for intent to "injure or destroy property," Hoehler said.

A message left for Plummer through the Broncos was not returned Tuesday night. Plummer's agent told Fox 31 he was en route to a charity event at the time to deliver a check.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Northman
05-24-2006, 03:29 AM
Vermiel would have stomped Plummers ass.


LOL oh yea, Mr. Im Crying in my Rice Krispys.

Northman
05-24-2006, 03:31 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3858195

denver broncos
Broncos QB in hit-run citation
Plummer summoned over purported April road rage incident
By Jim Kirksey
Denver Post Staff Writer

Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer has been issued a summons by the Englewood police in connection with a purported "road-rage-type incident" last month, investigator John Hoehler said Tuesday night.

Police were sent to East Hampden Avenue and Downing Street on April 20 after a report of a hit-and-run accident. The victim of the incident - identified by Fox 31 News as Doug Stone - told officers he had been involved in a road rage incident with the driver of a gray Honda van.

When the van stopped at a red light, the driver got out and kicked the front of Stone's truck. The man then got back into the Honda, put it in reverse and hit the front of Stone's vehicle causing minor damage, then left the scene, Hoehler said.

"When he backed into my truck, he broke my license-plate frame," Stone told Fox 31.

Stone said he saw the gray Honda cut off three other drivers before he was cut off.

"He pulled in front of me," Stone said. "I wasn't very polite. I did honk my horn quite a bit."

Stone also said, "He actually kicked the front of the truck and said, 'Stay off my tail.' He proceeded to get back into his van, he put it in reverse and backed right into the bumper and actually pushed there for 10 seconds and then took off."

A witness - identified by Fox 31 as Marjorie Casse - got the license-plate number of the van and reported it to police, he said.

"I was just very appalled," Casse told the station. "I couldn't believe what I saw."

The plate was listed to Jason "Jake" Plummer of Cherry Hills Village.

"Jake Plummer?" Stone said. "Yeah, it would surprise me. Was it Jake Plummer?"

Casse said, "Being who he is, he should

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really be a role model, and I'm really shocked that he would do such a thing."

Hoehler said Plummer couldn't be contacted initially, but was contacted at his home Friday.

"Mr. Plummer's recollection of the incident was not as reported by the victim and independent witness," Hoehler said.

When contacted by police, Plummer said he was involved in a rear-end crash.

"He went out and looked and didn't see any damage so he didn't report it," Hoehler said.

After he left the scene he told investigators he changed his mind and called 911 to report the accident.

Plummer was served an Englewood Municipal Summons for intent to "injure or destroy property," Hoehler said.

A message left for Plummer through the Broncos was not returned Tuesday night. Plummer's agent told Fox 31 he was en route to a charity event at the time to deliver a check.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Oh yea, and im sure Doug Stone wasnt tailgating either. ::)

broncohaven
05-24-2006, 05:45 AM
Crazy stuff happens around the Holidays.

Garcia Bronco
05-24-2006, 06:05 AM
So let me get this straight....this guy ran into the back of Plummers car and he had a warrant issued for Plummer...that's dumb unless they can prove Plummer backed into them....which it doesn't sound like they can.

watermock
05-24-2006, 06:14 AM
do you have a link? Which news station was it? The clips are usually on their websites. Thanks.

The Crusty Old Perp has been tracked down.

http://www.autographsonline.com/Scans/maddenjohn14712.jpg

"And BOOM!" I have always been amused he's such a wimp he doesn't have the balls to fly. I have a real strong fear of heights because if I fall I will likely break my neck, but I don't have a problem on a plane. Not like a terrorist is flying the thing, ya know?

chrisp
05-24-2006, 06:22 AM
The 911 call is key here - if Plummer made it (and there should be records to attest to the fact) then then it would seem pretty obvious that his version of events is true: if you are a major local celebrity and you go ape-s**t in public you don't normally phone the police to tell them.

....however, if a minor incident occurs, you are probably wise to phone in and report it just in case some idiot decides to try and make more out of the incident than it really was - that was probably what was going through Plummer's mind when he changed his mind later and called them. Assuming, of course, that he did.

Just seems really out of character for Plummer - flipping off the fans is one thing, but having a mental fit and kicking someone's car is something else - he's always been a pretty laid-back dude most of the time off the field.

watermock
05-24-2006, 06:48 AM
I've run into more than a few senile drivers that didn't seem concious. They will drive with the blinker on, slam on brakes, back into you, park too close ect.

Last month one just simply ran a stop sign right in front of me. Didn't even slow down. Luckily it was at the Jr. College and I was going 25. Didn't even touch the brakes whatsoever yet alone glance onto the main road. Jake didn't kick in a fender or door, as long as he didn't break his big toe it's no big deal in my book. It's pretty easy to do, trust me.

-Slap-
05-24-2006, 06:56 AM
Makes Jake look much worse if the driver in question was elderly. I think most reasonable people make allowances for old people on the road automatically.

watermock
05-24-2006, 07:01 AM
Years ago I went thru cars like loaves of bread but I haven't busted up a car for over two decades running now.

brncs_fan
05-24-2006, 07:09 AM
Seems like a pretty thin case for road rage. I applaud Jake because I would have done much worst than that before after being hit.

Hoepfully we will have the full story once the investigation is over.

Steve Sewell
05-24-2006, 07:14 AM
April 20th huh?

Shanny had probably told him about their plans to take Cutler that morning putting him in a testy mood.

On 4/20 @ 4:20?...hmmmmmmmmmm.... I would expect ole Jake to be a little more docile on a day like that...

JPEZ
05-24-2006, 07:41 AM
Plummer is an A**
Flipping off the fans, road rage, and I heard he treats his "girlfriend" the same way! :pity: Like Chit

bombay
05-24-2006, 07:45 AM
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in Jake..... for driving a gray Honda van. WTF?

61Vikefan
05-24-2006, 07:52 AM
He drives a Honda? No wonder he's angry.

smalltowngrll
05-24-2006, 08:01 AM
He drives a honda element...not a van...LOL

bombay
05-24-2006, 08:09 AM
The Denver Post article above states that he was driving a gray Honda van.

bronco militia
05-24-2006, 08:11 AM
I heard the guy had Chefs bumper sticker....

61Vikefan
05-24-2006, 08:22 AM
haha militia!

Arkansas Bronco
05-24-2006, 08:27 AM
Kinda off subject but still on road rage.

I was coming home one night after picking my son up at daycare and was going 40 in a 40 mph zone. A mini van gets on my ass and I mean pretty close, the road lines were dotted so he could pass but he just kept on me. I pressed my brake maybey slowing to 35 to try and get him off or get him to pass. But no it was a stinking undercover cop and said the reason I slowed down was because I delt with road rage. I tried to tell him that no i just dont like to be tailed with my son in the back and he told me that if i said one more word he was going to take me in. Total horse crap. So i had to sit there and listen while he gave me a lecture. Cops suck.

Beantown Bronco
05-24-2006, 08:27 AM
So it's two (alleged victim and an independent witness) against one (Jake) and everyone here says the case is thin.....I think it's time to rehash that jury duty thread again. Some of you scare me.

BroncoFanCam
05-24-2006, 08:57 AM
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in Jake..... for driving a gray Honda van. WTF?

Beat me to it... Jake drives a Honda?!?!?!?!!

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Tredici
05-24-2006, 09:04 AM
So it's two (alleged victim and an independent witness) against one (Jake) and everyone here says the case is thin.....I think it's time to rehash that jury duty thread again. Some of you scare me.

What's wrong with you Beantown? I mean some fans force Jake to flip them off at a home game. Some reporters force Jake to call them up and leave profanity laced nonsense on their answering machines. It only makes sense that someone would force him to back up into them in traffic.

Sheesh.

BMF Bronco
05-24-2006, 09:11 AM
Beat me to it... Jake drives a Honda?!?!?!?!!

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
No Sheeit! Being from Idaho, you'd think he'd be driving a pick up at least!

hades
05-24-2006, 09:15 AM
Beat me to it... Jake drives a Honda?!?!?!?!!

Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

I know, I was thinking the same thing, A Honda. I'm disappointed. H1, Lambo, even a C6, but a fricken Honda! Come on Jake, spend a little of that cash you got!

On a side note, remember when Rod Smith rented a Lambo during the Superbowl im Miami?

BroncoFanCam
05-24-2006, 09:20 AM
No Sheeit! Being from Idaho, you'd think he'd be driving a pick up at least!

No kidding... just a "plain Jane" Silverado, or an F/150... but a Honda Van?!?!?!?!?!
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/05.haunting/05.honda.odyssey.500.jpg

He might as well have gotten that gawd-awful Honda, Avalanche knock-off. What a "puke-tacular" piece of crap.
http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/634/634515/2005-honda-ridgeline-20050718115745063.jpg

What's the bet it was free? And this is all a promotional stunt, - - "LOOK!!! Jake Plummer drives a van... how cool!?!?!?!?!?!"

Lynchfan
05-24-2006, 09:40 AM
The real question should be "why was jake driving a HONDA"???

ØrangeÇrush
05-24-2006, 09:41 AM
From the sounds of it, Jake is the one who is looking guilty. Sheesh....He might need anger management courses. He seems to lash out w/out thinking things through. It's what makes him a good competitor but probably also contributes to his wildly inconsistent ways.

-Slap-
05-24-2006, 10:04 AM
On a side note, remember when Rod Smith rented a Lambo during the Superbowl im Miami?
I'm pretty sure that was Willie Green.

Pat Bowlen
05-24-2006, 10:18 AM
From the sounds of it, Jake is the one who is looking guilty. Sheesh....He might need anger management courses. He seems to lash out w/out thinking things through. It's what makes him a good competitor but probably also contributes to his wildly inconsistent ways.
Are you going to send him a bill for that?

Odysseus
05-24-2006, 10:19 AM
Aw Man! Where was his offensive line!? Apparently Shanahan opened the full play book and Jake just went wild. Where was the leash during this incident?

FantomForce
05-24-2006, 10:37 AM
http://www.sportsgoons.com/Images/volume3/3_33/chiefs_coach_dick_vermeil.gif

I'm sorry jake.
LOL :rofl: Hilarious!

clint7
05-24-2006, 11:05 AM
Big deal. "Rubbin's racin'."

Popps
05-24-2006, 11:40 AM
So it's two (alleged victim and an independent witness) against one (Jake) and everyone here says the case is thin.....I think it's time to rehash that jury duty thread again. Some of you scare me.

Yea, after reading the article again... I agree. (It's oddly written, though.)

Sounds like Jake lost his cool, which wouldn't be the first time. I just always find it odd when I hear people initially not reporting something, then later changing their mind. (Unless it's rape or something, where reporting it has conflicts.)

If a guy purposely rammed my car after just getting out of his vehicle and kicking it... I wouldn't need to wait a while until I "changed my mind" to report it.

Still, sounds like Jake f'kd up.

12th man
05-24-2006, 01:35 PM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3858195

denver broncos
Broncos QB in hit-run citation
Plummer summoned over purported April road rage incident
By Jim Kirksey
Denver Post Staff Writer

Broncos quarterback Jake Plummer has been issued a summons by the Englewood police in connection with a purported "road-rage-type incident" last month, investigator John Hoehler said Tuesday night.

Police were sent to East Hampden Avenue and Downing Street on April 20 after a report of a hit-and-run accident. The victim of the incident - identified by Fox 31 News as Doug Stone - told officers he had been involved in a road rage incident with the driver of a gray Honda van.

When the van stopped at a red light, the driver got out and kicked the front of Stone's truck. The man then got back into the Honda, put it in reverse and hit the front of Stone's vehicle causing minor damage, then left the scene, Hoehler said.

"When he backed into my truck, he broke my license-plate frame," Stone told Fox 31.

Stone said he saw the gray Honda cut off three other drivers before he was cut off.

"He pulled in front of me," Stone said. "I wasn't very polite. I did honk my horn quite a bit."

Stone also said, "He actually kicked the front of the truck and said, 'Stay off my tail.' He proceeded to get back into his van, he put it in reverse and backed right into the bumper and actually pushed there for 10 seconds and then took off."
A witness - identified by Fox 31 as Marjorie Casse - got the license-plate number of the van and reported it to police, he said.

"I was just very appalled," Casse told the station. "I couldn't believe what I saw."

The plate was listed to Jason "Jake" Plummer of Cherry Hills Village.

"Jake Plummer?" Stone said. "Yeah, it would surprise me. Was it Jake Plummer?"

Casse said, "Being who he is, he should

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really be a role model, and I'm really shocked that he would do such a thing."

Hoehler said Plummer couldn't be contacted initially, but was contacted at his home Friday.

"Mr. Plummer's recollection of the incident was not as reported by the victim and independent witness," Hoehler said.

When contacted by police, Plummer said he was involved in a rear-end crash.

"He went out and looked and didn't see any damage so he didn't report it," Hoehler said.

After he left the scene he told investigators he changed his mind and called 911 to report the accident.

Plummer was served an Englewood Municipal Summons for intent to "injure or destroy property," Hoehler said.

A message left for Plummer through the Broncos was not returned Tuesday night. Plummer's agent told Fox 31 he was en route to a charity event at the time to deliver a check.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Hilarious! That's too funny. I can just see plummer coming out of his car all pissed, and just seeing him kick some guys truck, and yelling, "stay off my tail" all pissed off.then he backs up into the guys truck and broke is license plate frame. you have to admitt, that's funny.

A couple of things though. I think plummer is guilty. That eyewitness saw the whole thing, and said she was appalled what she saw, meaning plummer did somthing bad. But probably the guy driving the truck was being a dick driver and probably deserved it. So both guys had road rage. The guy said he was pretty mad and was honking his horn. so I think maybe this guy got pissed at jake, and starting taling him all nuts honking his horn and such, and plummer did what he did.

brncs_fan
05-24-2006, 01:43 PM
So it's two (alleged victim and an independent witness) against one (Jake) and everyone here says the case is thin.....I think it's time to rehash that jury duty thread again. Some of you scare me.
According to police, witnesses said a man later identified as Plummer kicked the headlight of a Ford pickup on April 20 in suburban Denver and then backed his truck into the pickup before driving away.

...


The report said Plummer's car had $200 to $300 in damage and Stone's pickup had about $25 damage to its front license plate holder.

It also isn't just Jake against two people...

The police report said Plummer told the officer he was driving to a charity appearance with his girlfriend when he was bumped from behind by another vehicle.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2456598

Kaylore
05-24-2006, 02:16 PM
From the sounds of it, Jake is the one who is looking guilty. Sheesh....He might need anger management courses. He seems to lash out w/out thinking things through. It's what makes him a good competitor but probably also contributes to his wildly inconsistent ways.
I agree that that edge probably helps him in games, but honestly I've never liked that about Jake. There has been quite a few press conferences where he's acted like he was trying to prove something the whole time. He'll give short answers and even scoff at some questions. I can kind of understand with all the crap the media has thrown at him, but it wouldn't kill him to just be professional and try and keep emotion out of it.

SportinOne
05-24-2006, 03:00 PM
Jake doesn't drive a Honda van.. he drives a honda element. Everyone on the Mane has known that for a while now... it's been discussed.

The element is the one you can spray water into cuz the floors are rubberized or something..

Element on the left, Jake on the right:

http://www.visit4info.com/sitecontent/LG/fullZZZZZZTVC051014170500PIC.jpg

Billy Clyde Puckett
05-24-2006, 03:18 PM
I agree that that edge probably helps him in games, but honestly I've never liked that about Jake. There has been quite a few press conferences where he's acted like he was trying to prove something the whole time. He'll give short answers and even scoff at some questions. I can kind of understand with all the crap the media has thrown at him, but it wouldn't kill him to just be professional and try and keep emotion out of it.

This personality trait is exactly why I think Jake retires to his cabin on the lake in Idaho with no phone the minute Cutler takes his job.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-24-2006, 03:25 PM
Seems like a pretty thin case for road rage. I applaud Jake because I would have done much worst than that before after being hit.

Hoepfully we will have the full story once the investigation is over.
Reading comprehension? No one ran into Plummer, it was Plummer that may be guilty of hit and run.



If a guy purposely rammed my car after just getting out of his vehicle and kicking it... I wouldn't need to wait a while until I "changed my mind" to report it.
.
The police were called immediately, it was Plummer who didn't report it and ran from the scene.

Plummer the idiot.

RhymesayersDU
05-24-2006, 03:27 PM
http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nfl/jake-plummer-terror-on-the-road-175939.php

According to reports, Plummer, after cutting a guy off and being honked at, shoved his car in reverse and rammed Stone’s car. Funny thing, too: Plummer had totally meant to hit another, entirely different, wide-open car.

Ouch.

alkemical
05-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Makes Jake look much worse if the driver in question was elderly. I think most reasonable people make allowances for old people on the road automatically.


capital punishment is an allowance i'm willing to make.

Tredici
05-24-2006, 03:43 PM
http://www.deadspin.com/sports/nfl/jake-plummer-terror-on-the-road-175939.php



Ouch.

Wide Receivers.... Cars...

It's a perception problem.

alkemical
05-24-2006, 03:45 PM
who cares if he drives an element, if anything - that's awesome. he's not caught up in the BS.

Popps
05-24-2006, 04:01 PM
He'll give short answers and even scoff at some questions. I can kind of understand with all the crap the media has thrown at him

Not being funny, but they do say QBs take on the personalities of their coach, to an extent. Shanahan has never been very chummy with the media.

crazyhorse
05-24-2006, 04:04 PM
Brodie Croyle would never do anything like that.

You can bet your life on it.

What kind of a signal does that send to the Broncos new benchwarmer?

This could actually be dumber than throwing a left handed INT on your own 3 yard line.

But not as funny.

alkemical
05-24-2006, 04:08 PM
Brodie Croyle would never do anything like that.

You can bet your life on it.

What kind of a signal does that send to the Broncos new benchwarmer?

This could actually be dumber than a left handed INT at the 3 yard line.

But not as funny.



Seeing the brodie croyle is playing for the chorfs, please let me send him condolences for the future lack of success in the playoffs

Man-Goblin
05-24-2006, 04:13 PM
Plummer defends himself! He does not, however, defend driving the Honda...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2456598

crazyhorse
05-24-2006, 04:20 PM
Plummer defends himself!

Not very well.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Plummer defends himself! He does not, however, defend driving the Honda...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2456598


Plummer should learn how keep his mouth shut!

"It's a matter of how we play ball and go on, and image tarnished, whatever, role model, blah blah blah, I'm here to play football and win games and whatever happens, that's what I've got to deal with," he said.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-24-2006, 04:24 PM
Story is going national now, next up on ESPN.

greatgooglymoogly
05-24-2006, 04:25 PM
Cell phone records should definitely help him out here

Garcia Bronco
05-24-2006, 04:27 PM
Plummer was supposedly bump drafted.

WABronco
05-24-2006, 04:27 PM
Plummer should learn how keep his mouth shut!
Yea, I didn't like that either. But, he did recover and say that he'd deal with the consequences...

TDmvp
05-24-2006, 04:30 PM
all you people who are just screaming to play cutler are football handycapped jake played like a top 5 in the league qb last year and you all who dont get it should have a coke and a smile and shut the f up ...

Bronco_Beerslug
05-24-2006, 04:31 PM
Cell phone records should definitely help him out here 911 has all records of calls made to them.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-24-2006, 04:34 PM
all you people who are just screaming to play cutler are football handycapped jake played like a top 5 in the league qb last year and you all who dont get it should have a coke and a smile and shut the f up ...
All you Plummer nutsackers should take a deep breath, OK exhale, inhale, exhale...

alkemical
05-24-2006, 04:41 PM
Cell phone records should definitely help him out here


The NSA won't comment.

TDmvp
05-24-2006, 04:42 PM
theres a diff between a plummer nutsacker and common sense ... i know i know what the hell is common sense ...

Kaylore
05-24-2006, 04:44 PM
theres a diff between a plummer nutsacker and common sence ... i know i know what the hell is common sence ...
Is it similar to common sense?

Garcia Bronco
05-24-2006, 04:47 PM
I never understand why people get mad when some one cuts them off. The response is typically dangerous. Forget it...it's not worth it....and obviously that person is in a hurry. I also don't understand why people won't let someone get in front of them either. I see it all the time...people speed up to block them off.....People!...You being in front of one car is going to literally save you about 2-30 seconds off your trip. Is it worth being a jerk? Or someone's life?

Another thing I don't understand is people that get left into speedy traffic from the right and interupt the flow and drive at the same speed they were driving. It's the passing lane....Hamma Down! Then get back over and out of the way and back to your cruise speed.

Also....Don't **** with the truck driver. He could kill us all and he's probably on crystal meth or speed. Let him over...ease off...and I swear he'll get out of the way as soon as he can. And don't pass them and jump right in front of them either. It's dangerous. Remember it could kill you...and make me late. This is unacceptable. Please. When you go to pass a weight management specialist on the left...pass him and end it.....don't hangout and chill next to the 65 mph moving 80 thousand pound road wiper.

Lastly....In any kind of high speed traffic, if people kept a solid 5-6 second following distance and moved at a realistic speed, more traffic could move faster. Because I don't care if we go 5 mph...this stop-go **** has got to ...well....go.

TDmvp
05-24-2006, 04:47 PM
ooooo fing spelling teacher .... get a life...

WABronco
05-24-2006, 04:55 PM
ooooo fing spelling teacher .... get a life...
STFU

Wasn't your first thread something like "Did Champ Bailey choose 24 to honor Willie Mays"...or some weird **** like that?

baja
05-24-2006, 05:18 PM
Cutting someone off is how you change lanes in Mexico and Italy.

WABronco
05-24-2006, 05:56 PM
Cutting someone off is how you change lanes in Mexico and Italy.
Heh, no kidding. Europeans drive motorcycles down the middle of highways lanes. The first guy I saw I said to myself, "WTF? That's some type of crazy."

Bob's your Information Minister
05-24-2006, 06:07 PM
Plummer has always been an asshole. It dates back to his days at Arizona State.

baja
05-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Heh, no kidding. Europeans drive motorcycles down the middle of highways lanes. The first guy I saw I said to myself, "WTF? That's some type of crazy."

I saw that my buddy had a smashed driver's side window so I asked him. Did someone break in to your car? No, he said, I opened my door at a traffic light and a motor cyclist laid down his bike but he went through my window. Ouch!

Clockwork Orange
05-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Plummer has always been an a-hole. It dates back to his days at Arizona State.

And yet you still have a crush on him.

Man-Goblin
05-24-2006, 06:14 PM
Plummer defends himself! He does not, however, defend driving the Honda...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2456598

Yeah, it's gonna look pretty bad if he can't produce that cell phone call and he as to plead no-contest to this thing...

Garcia Bronco
05-24-2006, 06:16 PM
Yeah, it's gonna look pretty bad if he can't produce that cell phone call and he as to plead no-contest to this thing...



They can produce it.....not the contents, but the time and duration. That's how they bill you.

Man-Goblin
05-24-2006, 06:23 PM
They can produce it.....not the contents, but the time and duration. That's how they bill you.

I'm just saying, ya know, if it never like, ya know, happened or something...

Taco John
05-24-2006, 06:51 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3

WABronco
05-24-2006, 07:16 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3
Nice find...

12th man
05-24-2006, 07:21 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3
So what does this mean for plummer? It obviously helps him, but by how much? the other guy had a bystander as an eyewitness.

scorpio
05-24-2006, 07:57 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3


So it's a frame up! I knew the CIA must have something on Plummer.

Man-Goblin
05-24-2006, 08:29 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3

EGG ON MY FACE. freaking awesome.

SportinOne
05-24-2006, 09:12 PM
That's amazing that you found that.

What i don't understand is how he can be so calm. I guess if you are a multi-millionaire driving a cheap car it may take a little of the sting off, but if someone "slightly bumped" me from behind i would be irrate. In fact it has happened before, and i was!

So either he is not telling the truth, or he's just a realllly calm guy.. I hate to say it but i think he's totally at fault. It's one thing to be calm, but then he almost sounds like he's sticking up for the guy.. like he made the call after he ran and... yeah.. i don't believe him at all.. you don't start making excuses for someone that just hit your car.

With that said, it's not like he's doing drugs or beating his wife.. whether he did it or not, i still like the guy.

SoCalBronco
05-24-2006, 09:19 PM
And yet you still have a crush on him.

It would appear that Bob has an even bigger man crush on Cutler.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=1123973&highlight=Jay#post1123973

See Post 9.

Lev Vyvanse
05-24-2006, 09:28 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3

He is telling the true or he’s a diabolical mastermind. He has been hanging out with shanny way to much to rule out either option.;)

scorpio
05-24-2006, 09:30 PM
Personally I wonder how KHOW got ahold of this

-Slap-
05-24-2006, 09:41 PM
Jake gets jammed on pretty nicely right here.

The pickup driver, Douglas Stone, 47, of Denver, said he didn't realize the other driver was Plummer.

"I thought it was some 19- or 20-year-old kid driving a car that his dad gave him, and maybe he needed to be talked to by his dad," Stone told The Associated Press in a phone interview, describing the driver as clean-shaven with hair past his ears. "It's not the Jake Plummer you see on TV, after he's taken a shower and has that shaggy beard.

"He was kind of a small, skinny guy. By the way he looks, he's not built like a football player," the 6-foot-3, 260-pound Stone said.

Popps
05-24-2006, 09:41 PM
This could actually be dumber than throwing a left handed INT on your own 3 yard line.

But not as funny.


How'd that game work out for you? Refresh my memory. Did it end as funny?

Popps
05-24-2006, 09:47 PM
With that said, it's not like he's doing drugs or beating his wife.. whether he did it or not, i still like the guy.

He's probably a bit of a tool. But, you said it right... he's not beating his woman or running a meth lab, which puts him in the upper percentile of NFL players, from a behavioral standpoint.

So far, I've heard that he snapped at someone in the media, grabbed a girl's butt in college on a dance floor and now kicked someone's tire.

Probably wouldn't want him dating my sister, but again... on the tame side for an NFL athlete.

-Slap-
05-24-2006, 10:37 PM
I never understand why people get mad when some one cuts them off. The response is typically dangerous. Forget it...it's not worth it....and obviously that person is in a hurry. I also don't understand why people won't let someone get in front of them either. I see it all the time...people speed up to block them off.....People!...You being in front of one car is going to literally save you about 2-30 seconds off your trip. Is it worth being a jerk? Or someone's life?

Another thing I don't understand is people that get left into speedy traffic from the right and interupt the flow and drive at the same speed they were driving. It's the passing lane....Hamma Down! Then get back over and out of the way and back to your cruise speed.

Also....Don't **** with the truck driver. He could kill us all and he's probably on crystal meth or speed. Let him over...ease off...and I swear he'll get out of the way as soon as he can. And don't pass them and jump right in front of them either. It's dangerous. Remember it could kill you...and make me late. This is unacceptable. Please. When you go to pass a weight management specialist on the left...pass him and end it.....don't hangout and chill next to the 65 mph moving 80 thousand pound road wiper.

Lastly....In any kind of high speed traffic, if people kept a solid 5-6 second following distance and moved at a realistic speed, more traffic could move faster. Because I don't care if we go 5 mph...this stop-go **** has got to ...well....go.

Excellent post. If people had any idea how many of their fellow motorists are driving around armed these days, they wouldn't be so quick to confront them over a minor traffic issue.

sirhcyennek81
05-24-2006, 10:46 PM
I always drive defensive. I have no clue what someone else is thinking, or what may be pissing them off. Unless I am trying to get out of denver on a friday before 3:00. Then I am an asshole on wheels.


:Broncos:

SportinOne
05-24-2006, 10:49 PM
Excellent post. If people had any idea how many of their fellow motorists are driving around armed these days, they wouldn't be so quick to confront them over a minor traffic issue.

my roomate had a gun pulled on him because he pulled up next to the guy and asked him what the f his problem was...

people who carry around guns just waiting for a chance to flash them are pathetic

Kaylore
05-24-2006, 11:01 PM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3 You know, I have trouble believing that Jake would in a fit of rage get our of his car, kick the mans bumper, get back into his car, back into the car and then remember the license plate number and call the police. Why would you think to look at and remember a license plate number of a car you were intending to attack in a fit of rage?

Bob's your Information Minister
05-24-2006, 11:03 PM
Why would you think to look at and remember a license plate number of a car you were intending to attack in a fit of rage?

Why would you throw a left-handed interception? ???

Ballhawk
05-24-2006, 11:07 PM
Why would you throw a left-handed interception? ???

How do you manage to lose a game when Jake is throwing left handed?

Kaylore
05-24-2006, 11:15 PM
How do you manage to lose a game when Jake is throwing left handed?
:rofl: Jake: "I can beat you using my wrong hand!"

NOLA Bronco
05-24-2006, 11:55 PM
All right, I am a newbie here, but I do find it funny seeing a Chiefs fan say anything about a Broncos QB.

The Chiefs make me laugh. Mainly because I think about that Snickers commercial, but also because the Chiefs and their fans remind me of the Broncos, and how we were before the team started going to and winning Super Bowls. Even their stadium makes me think of Old Mile High. Memories......


With all that said, what is the general feeling about Plummer on this board?

Personally, I like the way he plays. Sure, he makes some dumb throws, but people seem to forget how many dumb throws Elway made in his career. Plummer is great getting out of those sacks that doomed Griese. He makes plays on the run, is as tough as nails, and seems like a good teammate. He isn't all pro by any stretch, but for the Broncos system, I can't think of many other QBs I would take over him. I just wish the Broncos would have had him a few years earlier.

The Broncos are just lacking that home run hitter that they havent had since the days of TD and the Portis. Plummer and Portis for a couple more years would have been nice.

Oh, and I think Jake probably yelled at the guy, but not until after he got hit. Who hasn't wanted to tap someone after they cut you off in traffic? I am shocked that someone driving while on the phone did this. It at least attests to his character to say that he was wrong for talking on the phone and cutting the guy off.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 12:29 AM
my roomate had a gun pulled on him because he pulled up next to the guy and asked him what the f his problem was...

people who carry around guns just waiting for a chance to flash them are pathetic
Agreed. Sometimes they do more than just flash them.

bcbronc
05-25-2006, 12:36 AM
They don't have the record of the phone call, yet it's available online...

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/JAKEPLUMMER911CALL.mp3


kind of off topic, but is 911 really the right venue for reporting a fender bender? especially one where the fender wasnt even bent? but the operator sure sounded cheerful.

TDmvp
05-25-2006, 01:00 AM
"STFU

Wasn't your first thread something like "Did Champ Bailey choose 24 to honor Willie Mays"...or some weird **** like that?"

/ponder my 'first thread' ??? maybe look at my join on date ... and my Champ question was like o what two weeks ago . and why is that a f'd question champ wears 24 ... willies 24 ... i'd just watched a show on willie about all the roid stuff and never heard why champ wears 24 and knew willie did .. and it was a dead board day in off season . you board whores are so testie .

Boobs McGee
05-25-2006, 09:19 AM
Plummer acknowledged cutting off a vehicle because he was in a hurry to deliver a cheque to charity from his foundation. "I accidentally cut this person off," Plummer said. "And I was on my cellphone, which I'm embarrassed to admit that while I was driving, and cut a guy off. I waved in my rearview mirror and even said sorry while I was talking. "And all I heard was incessant honking. When I pulled up to the light, I felt a bump on the back of my tailgate, which was very surprising." He said he got out of his Honda truck to check for damage, then got back in, drove away and called 911 to report what happened.

sounds pretty believable to me. He's been pretty honest with everything thrown at him by the media since he's been here. Every time something negative comes up (flipping the bird, calling fans bandwagoners, losing an title game), he responds openly and honestly.

The phone call he made to police sounded VERY similar to one I made 3 years ago after a similar incident. After something like that happens, your reaction is mostly incredulous disbelief....accidentally cut someone off, you wave, thinking "ya, i screwed up but it wasn't with malicious intent", then you think it's all good. Next thing you know, the guy's ridin your ass, flippin you off and honking like there's no tomorrow. When all's said and done, you feel pretty stupid that the whole thing happened, and it's reflected in your voice when you call in.

I think (minus the cutoff) HE's the victim.

anywho, why the hell is this making so much publicity anyways?

alkemical
05-25-2006, 09:23 AM
It deflects from more pressing issues.

bendog
05-25-2006, 09:26 AM
anywho, why the hell is this making so much publicity anyways?

My job sooooo sucks and I am soooooo bored.

watermock
05-25-2006, 09:33 AM
Jake is an obvious threat to society, his foundation to kill lawn insects is an abomination to humanity.

brncs_fan
05-25-2006, 09:36 AM
So what does this mean for plummer? It obviously helps him, but by how much? the other guy had a bystander as an eyewitness.
Plummer's girldfriend was in the car. That evens it out.

crazyhorse
05-25-2006, 10:00 AM
Plummer acknowledged cutting off a vehicle because he was in a hurry to deliver a cheque to charity from his foundation. "I accidentally cut this person off," Plummer said. "And I was on my cellphone, which I'm embarrassed to admit that while I was driving, and cut a guy off. I waved in my rearview mirror and even said sorry while I was talking. "And all I heard was incessant honking. When I pulled up to the light, I felt a bump on the back of my tailgate, which was very surprising." He said he got out of his Honda truck to check for damage, then got back in, drove away and called 911 to report what happened.

sounds pretty believable to me. He's been pretty honest with everything thrown at him by the media since he's been here. Every time something negative comes up (flipping the bird, calling fans bandwagoners, losing an title game), he responds openly and honestly.

The phone call he made to police sounded VERY similar to one I made 3 years ago after a similar incident. After something like that happens, your reaction is mostly incredulous disbelief....accidentally cut someone off, you wave, thinking "ya, i screwed up but it wasn't with malicious intent", then you think it's all good. Next thing you know, the guy's ridin your ass, flippin you off and honking like there's no tomorrow. When all's said and done, you feel pretty stupid that the whole thing happened, and it's reflected in your voice when you call in.

I think (minus the cutoff) HE's the victim.

anywho, why the hell is this making so much publicity anyways?


Here is some of the dumbasssery I was hoping for.

Plummer, the victim.

Explain why he waited until he was home some 2 hours later to call, (get this) the emergency number 911?

He is trying to cover his ass over yet another knee jerk reaction to a problem. This is becoming common knowledge about this guy. I have no doubt in my mind that Plummer reacted this way. Why? Because he has a track record that would indicate such.

If he didn't go around acting like an asshole all the time he would not be a victim, here.

So once again, why call 911 two hours later? Is it that he was just covering his ass? Or do you think that Jake viewed this as an emergency?

crazyhorse
05-25-2006, 10:02 AM
Plummer's girldfriend was in the car. That evens it out.

With the exception, Jake Plummer has been served.

brncs_fan
05-25-2006, 10:06 AM
With the exception, Jake Plummer has been served.
http://www.thecinemasource.com/moviesdb/images/you-got-served-poster-300.jpg

Doesn't mean you can't testify on your own behalf.

Steve Sewell
05-25-2006, 10:09 AM
Brodie Croyle would never do anything like that.

You can bet your life on it.

What kind of a signal does that send to the Broncos new benchwarmer?

This could actually be dumber than throwing a left handed INT on your own 3 yard line.

But not as funny.

Can you please remind us all which team WON that game? What a tool...

Steve Sewell
05-25-2006, 10:12 AM
Heh, no kidding. Europeans drive motorcycles down the middle of highways lanes. The first guy I saw I said to myself, "WTF? That's some type of crazy."

You are thinking of California. It's legal to drive your motorcyle between cars in adjacent lanes there. It's crazy the first time you drive there!

brncs_fan
05-25-2006, 10:15 AM
You are thinking of California. It's legal to drive your motorcyle between cars in adjacent lanes there. It's crazy the first time you drive there!
They do it in Europe as well.

Steve Sewell
05-25-2006, 10:17 AM
He's probably a bit of a tool. But, you said it right... he's not beating his woman or running a meth lab, which puts him in the upper percentile of NFL players, from a behavioral standpoint.

So far, I've heard that he snapped at someone in the media, grabbed a girl's butt in college on a dance floor and now kicked someone's tire.

Probably wouldn't want him dating my sister, but again... on the tame side for an NFL athlete.

I'd be willing to be that 75% of the people on this board have done worse, including myself. Everyone has their moments that they're not proud of, including myself.

Boobs McGee
05-25-2006, 10:19 AM
Here is some of the dumbasssery I was hoping for.

Plummer, the victim.

Explain why he waited until he was home some 2 hours later to call, (get this) the emergency number 911?

He is trying to cover his ass over yet another knee jerk reaction to a problem. This is becoming common knowledge about this guy. I have no doubt in my mind that Plummer reacted this way. Why? Because he has a track record that would indicate such.

If he didn't go around acting like an a-hole all the time he would not be a victim, here.

So once again, why call 911 two hours later? Is it that he was just covering his ass? Or do you think that Jake viewed this as an emergency?

who do you want him to call that late at night? Geico? pretty sure the only people taking claims after hours is e-surance.

I know chiefs fans are full of dumbassery, but come on. Have you ever been in a late night run in? That's who you call. The police. I don't know about everyone else, but I PERSONALLY don't have the non-emergency local police station number stored in my phone.

why two hours later? He's a busy guy....i think it bides MORE for his case. He had the license number, and wasn't really worried about it too much.. So, he delivers his check to charity, takes care of business, and when he has some time later, calls the police to report what happened. Kept a cool head and waited until things had calmed down a bit.

Sounds pretty normal to me.

And no, he doesn't "go around acting like an a-hole all the time". He volunteers, donates money, takes care of his family, and tries to stay out of the media spotlight.

Master___Pain
05-25-2006, 10:20 AM
My reaction to this...Who ****ing cares? This breaks down 4 ways

1. The people that hate Jake will use this to further justify their contempt
2. Most will be indifferent and don't give a flying **** about some minor fenderbender
3. The Plummer apologists willcontinue to defend Jake no matter what.
4. Trolls trying to get in a few jabs at Plummer and bring up lefthanded inteceptions..flipping the bird etc.

Put me in category #2

alkemical
05-25-2006, 10:20 AM
I love the highly moral and judgemental people here who throw stones. I just hope they threw them through their own glass walls first. F'n hypocrites.

Steve Sewell
05-25-2006, 10:21 AM
NOLABronco:

"The Chiefs make me laugh. Mainly because I think about that Snickers commercial, but also because the Chiefs and their fans remind me of the Broncos, and how we were before the team started going to and winning Super Bowls. Even their stadium makes me think of Old Mile High. Memories......"

If I were the board moderator I'd ban you for this statement...seriously.

Master___Pain
05-25-2006, 10:24 AM
I'd be willing to be that 75% of the people on this board have done worse, including myself. Everyone has their moments that they're not proud of, including myself.

I'd say the percentage is higher than that. I bet nearly every person on this board has had a fit of raodrage, flipped someone off, called someone a bandwagon fan and screamed at someone they don't care for. Actually, that's an accurate description of the daily activities of the orangemane.

brncs_fan
05-25-2006, 10:25 AM
If I were the board moderator I'd ban you for this statement...seriously.
And thats why you are not a board moderator. You work for the FCC?

BroncoFanCam
05-25-2006, 10:26 AM
You are thinking of California. It's legal to drive your motorcyle between cars in adjacent lanes there. It's crazy the first time you drive there!

That crap pisses me off to no end.

They pull that shlt here constantly.

I had a group of four Harley's behind me last Sunday, the first shot the tiniest of gaps between me and the car I was passing (4 lane divided highway). His buddy (who had his lady on teh back tried to squeeze between me and the car I was right beside, so I swerved ever so slightly towards the middle line.

That kept him in his place until I was around, when I recieved a timely middle finger as he sped off at about 100 mph.

I wish I had a big ole truck for these morons.

And the way they cut traffic at stop lights... :redpunch: :gripe: :cuss: ~Popps~

Steve Sewell
05-25-2006, 10:27 AM
And thats why you are not a board moderator. You work for the FCC?

f-off...Do you appreciate, as a Bronco fan, being compared to Chiefs fans and Mile High being compared to Camarohead? I sure hope not...

brncs_fan
05-25-2006, 10:29 AM
f-off...Do you appreciate, as a Bronco fan, being compared to Chiefs fans and Mile High being compared to Camarohead? I sure hope not...
No, but I can appretiate someone having an opinion that differs from mine without wanting to string him up from the gallows.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 10:32 AM
I like how Jake said he's a celebrity so none of it will stick to him anyway. That kind of smirking honesty is so refreshing.

Steve Sewell
05-25-2006, 10:35 AM
No, but I can appretiate someone having an opinion that differs from mine without wanting to string him up from the gallows.

Well, sorry for twisting your g-string...I wasn't all that serious about it anyway. Please don't call the ACLU on me!

alkemical
05-25-2006, 10:37 AM
I like how Jake said he's a celebrity so none of it will stick to him anyway. That kind of smirking honesty is so refreshing.


ya know slap, i think we as a people like to get slapped around and treated like shiate. I mean how else can you explain it (not with just sports either)

bendog
05-25-2006, 10:38 AM
I'd be willing to be that 75% of the people on this board have done worse, including myself. Everyone has their moments that they're not proud of, including myself.
True for most of us, but consider we're posting with people from Missouri.

NOLA Bronco
05-25-2006, 11:20 AM
NOLABronco:

"The Chiefs make me laugh. Mainly because I think about that Snickers commercial, but also because the Chiefs and their fans remind me of the Broncos, and how we were before the team started going to and winning Super Bowls. Even their stadium makes me think of Old Mile High. Memories......"

If I were the board moderator I'd ban you for this statement...seriously.

That right there is why sometime Denver fans get a bad rap.

I am gonna let you in on a little secret. People in other parts of the country look at Bronco fans as poor sports sometimes. Bashing on Plummer or Shanny, booing your own players, throwing snowballs, etc. Being in Saints territory, Broncos fans are looked at as spoiled brats who don't appreciate the good fortune they have had.

I spend a great deal of time debunking the myth that Bronco/Denver fans are all like this. I point to the sell out streak. I point to how well they travel for road games. How the fans are so passionate, they want to know what the QB gives out at halloween and how good his kid is doind at pee-wee football.

I love the rivalry with the Chefs fans. Besides Packer fans, they seem the most like the Bronco fans that I love. The ones that will sell you a ticket for face value and buy you a beer because they feel guilty about it. Chef fans always seem to respect the game and support their team through thick and thin. We both hate the raiders above all. They have a loud old metal stadium that I wish the Broncos still had. All in all, they are very similar. Both sides have their share of morons.

Don't get me wrong, when I was getting married and was informed that some of the flowers were going to be red and yellow, I made, and my wife supported my choice regarding a grooms cake. (see avatar)

BMF Bronco
05-25-2006, 11:25 AM
That right there is why sometime Denver fans get a bad rap.

I am gonna let you in on a little secret. People in other parts of the country look at Bronco fans as poor sports sometimes. Bashing on Plummer or Shanny, booing your own players, throwing snowballs, etc. Being in Saints territory, Broncos fans are looked at as spoiled brats who don't appreciate the good fortune they have had.

I spend a great deal of time debunking the myth that Bronco/Denver fans are all like this. I point to the sell out streak. I point to how well they travel for road games. How the fans are so passionate, they want to know what the QB gives out at halloween and how good his kid is doind at pee-wee football.

I love the rivalry with the Chefs fans. Besides Packer fans, they seem the most like the Bronco fans that I love. The ones that will sell you a ticket for face value and buy you a beer because they feel guilty about it. Chef fans always seem to respect the game and support their team through thick and thin. We both hate the raiders above all. They have a loud old metal stadium that I wish the Broncos still had. All in all, they are very similar. Both sides have their share of morons.

Don't get me wrong, when I was getting married and was informed that some of the flowers were going to be red and yellow, I made, and my wife supported my choice regarding a grooms cake. (see avatar)
Noob, try dealing with the Chef fans around here, Boob in particular, then tell me if you have the same zeal for them!:thumbsup:

ozomulsion
05-25-2006, 11:27 AM
That right there is why sometime Denver fans get a bad rap.

I am gonna let you in on a little secret. People in other parts of the country look at Bronco fans as poor sports sometimes. Bashing on Plummer or Shanny, booing your own players, throwing snowballs, etc. Being in Saints territory, Broncos fans are looked at as spoiled brats who don't appreciate the good fortune they have had.

I spend a great deal of time debunking the myth that Bronco/Denver fans are all like this. I point to the sell out streak. I point to how well they travel for road games. How the fans are so passionate, they want to know what the QB gives out at halloween and how good his kid is doind at pee-wee football.

I love the rivalry with the Chefs fans. Besides Packer fans, they seem the most like the Bronco fans that I love. The ones that will sell you a ticket for face value and buy you a beer because they feel guilty about it. Chef fans always seem to respect the game and support their team through thick and thin. We both hate the raiders above all. They have a loud old metal stadium that I wish the Broncos still had. All in all, they are very similar. Both sides have their share of morons.

Don't get me wrong, when I was getting married and was informed that some of the flowers were going to be red and yellow, I made, and my wife supported my choice regarding a grooms cake. (see avatar)

Nice cake, good post. :thumbs:

NOLA Bronco
05-25-2006, 11:32 AM
Noob, try dealing with the Chef fans around here, Boob in particular, then tell me if you have the same zeal for them!:thumbsup:


He is just one guy. Plenty of people in Orange on here who need a good slapping too.

I do question the motives and purpose of going on to another teams fan board. Speaks volumes.

NOLA Bronco
05-25-2006, 11:33 AM
Nice cake, good post. :thumbs:

Best part - red velvet inside.....

DomCasual
05-25-2006, 01:52 PM
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, and I don't want to read through 8 pages of "Jake is a bad, bad man!" tripe to find out. But take Jake out of the equation. If two people came to you with the following statements, who would you believe?

"This guy bumped into my car when I was in front of him at a light. I had cut him off, and he was a little pissed off."

or

"This crazy guy cut me off, then put his car in reverse to bump into me at a light."

Which is more believable to you? I personally have been involved in a situation similar to #1, and I know of many others who have, as well (minus the road rage part - just simple fender benders). I have never heard of anyone having the person in front of them back up into them.

It just sounds a little suspect. I know that there was supposedly an independent witness, so maybe that legitimizes it. But who does that?

alkemical
05-25-2006, 01:56 PM
well....

i've thought of getting a dump truck and painting either a bulls eye, or a :) on the grill....

crazyhorse
05-25-2006, 03:14 PM
who do you want him to call that late at night? Geico? pretty sure the only people taking claims after hours is e-surance.

Who said anything about filing a claim. You're not deflecting, are you?

I know chiefs fans are full of dumbassery, but come on. Have you ever been in a late night run in? That's who you call. The police. I don't know about everyone else, but I PERSONALLY don't have the non-emergency local police station number stored in my phone.

You dont call 911 unless you have an emergency. Period. The 911 system is not in place so you dont have to pick up a phone book. Abusing the 911 system is against the law in itself. It was reported that Plummer didn't call until he arrived home.

why two hours later? He's a busy guy....i think it bides MORE for his case. He had the license number, and wasn't really worried about it too much.. So, he delivers his check to charity, takes care of business, and when he has some time later, calls the police to report what happened. Kept a cool head and waited until things had calmed down a bit.

This is called leaving the scene of an accident.

Sounds pretty normal to me.

Yeah, I'll bet it does. But then you are making excuses.

And no, he doesn't "go around acting like an a-hole all the time". He volunteers, donates money, takes care of his family, and tries to stay out of the media spotlight.

He definately goes around acting like an asshole. Especially to his fans.

You could be right. Someone is prolly just picking on Jake Plummer. He's a victim. That makes more sense.

Boobs McGee
05-25-2006, 03:37 PM
So, who do you call in the case of an accident?

Last time I checked, in the case of an accident, you dial 911. I didn't see you bashing the other person that called the same number to report the same thing.

Now, I dunno about you, but if some crazy asshole comes up and knocks my bumper (i don't care if you cut him off or not), I personally am not going to be stupid enough to stick around. With all of the nutjobs out there these days, unless the police are right there next to me, I'm not willing to see what ELSE the person bumping me is going to do.

I didn't quite catch where it was reported that he called from his house, because the records show that it came from his Cell Phone. Link?

Nonetheless, I'm curious as to who you are supposed to call in the event of an accident at night. (if you're forbidden from calling 911....period)

2KBack
05-25-2006, 04:10 PM
I see a lot of board Rage going on in this thread

alkemical
05-25-2006, 04:26 PM
**** you!


;)

BigPlayShay
05-25-2006, 04:50 PM
Explain why he waited until he was home some 2 hours later to call, (get this) the emergency number 911?

Where has it been reported that he waited 2 hours. Not trying to be a d*ck, but I just haven't heard this anywhere.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 04:54 PM
Is it considered road rage when you throw handfuls of change at cabdrivers downtown? I consider it the cost of doing business.

bcbronc
05-25-2006, 06:41 PM
So, who do you call in the case of an accident?

Last time I checked, in the case of an accident, you dial 911. I didn't see you bashing the other person that called the same number to report the same thing.

Now, I dunno about you, but if some crazy a-hole comes up and knocks my bumper (i don't care if you cut him off or not), I personally am not going to be stupid enough to stick around. With all of the nutjobs out there these days, unless the police are right there next to me, I'm not willing to see what ELSE the person bumping me is going to do.

I didn't quite catch where it was reported that he called from his house, because the records show that it came from his Cell Phone. Link?

Nonetheless, I'm curious as to who you are supposed to call in the event of an accident at night. (if you're forbidden from calling 911....period)


how about calling the operator or information and getting a non-emergency number? or jake could have called his agent, or a buddy with a phone book, or his mom (if she's anything like mine, she has all the emergency services right beside the phone anyways). or he could have pulled over at a 7-11 and looked on the first page of a phone book. its really not that hard to find option other than 911 to call.

911 is supposed to be for emergencies, not to report a bump and go hours later. its the equivalent of going to the emergency ward of your local hospital because you have the sniffles.

baja
05-25-2006, 06:59 PM
He is just one guy. Plenty of people in Orange on here who need a good slapping too.

I do question the motives and purpose of going on to another teams fan board. < b> Speaks volumes.</b>

What does it tell you?

NOLA Bronco
05-25-2006, 08:17 PM
</b>

What does it tell you?


That he is a few donuts short of a dozen.

scorpio
05-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Is it considered road rage when you throw handfuls of change at cabdrivers downtown? I consider it the cost of doing business.


Change spends just like paper.

Goddamn uppity cabbies.

-Slap-
05-25-2006, 08:27 PM
Change spends just like paper.

Goddamn uppity cabbies.
I segregate my pennies from my silver. You can do a lot of venting for 40 or 50 cents.

greatgooglymoogly
05-26-2006, 11:37 AM
If i'm in an accident on the road, i call the police. i don't call my friends, or go to a 7-11, or call the operator. I've been taught to call the police in the event of an accident.

USUALLY, when you call 911, they'll either A) Take your call no matter what (as they did in jakes' case) or B) give you the number for a non emergency hotline.

Where's the link that says he waited two hours?

Honestly, if you just encountered a case of road rage (which IS considered an emergency, because you're life is in danger and the person COMMITING road rage could go on to put OTHER people's lives in danger), you wouldn't call the police? You'd call an operator, or go to a gas station, or call one of your buddies up? Come on now...that's the reason the police gave us an easy number to remember.

bcbronc
05-26-2006, 11:49 AM
After he left the scene he told investigators he changed his mind and called 911 to report the accident and said he was told it would be taken care of.

i clipped this from post #30. since jake 'changed his mind' AFTER leaving the scene, it's not likely that anyones life was in danger from this road rage incident. if no one's life is in danger, why is it necessary to call an emergency line to report a bump and run. it would have been just as easy to call a non-emergency police line to make the report, albeit he would have had to take an extra step to get the phone number.

googly, maybe you were taught to call 911 if you were in a fender bender. i was taught to call 911 only in case of emergency. how many times have you heard news stories about someone calling 911 and getting a busy signal or being put on hold? it's pretty awesome to think that when someone who actually is in a life or death situation can't get through, it's because you are taking up an operator reporting a fender bender.

greatgooglymoogly
05-26-2006, 11:58 AM
i clipped this from post #30. since jake 'changed his mind' AFTER leaving the scene, it's not likely that anyones life was in danger from this road rage incident. if no one's life is in danger, why is it necessary to call an emergency line to report a bump and run. it would have been just as easy to call a non-emergency police line to make the report, albeit he would have had to take an extra step to get the phone number.

googly, maybe you were taught to call 911 if you were in a fender bender. i was taught to call 911 only in case of emergency. how many times have you heard news stories about someone calling 911 and getting a busy signal or being put on hold? it's pretty awesome to think that when someone who actually is in a life or death situation can't get through, it's because you are taking up an operator reporting a fender bender.

What if he changed his mind because he realized someone else might be in danger? I guess my whole point is, that if someone is pissed off enough to hang on the horn and hit you with their car, then there are a number of possibilities why that person COULD potentially be endangering others lives.

What happens if that same guy that just hit your car took off and caused a ten car pile up? Road rage isn't something to be taken lightly, and until they create a Road Rage number to call, the police are the ones who deal with it.

You call in to dispatch and give them the information..they call out to the nearest available officer, and crisis is avoided.

I haven't heard of any cases of 911 being busy, or anyone getting put on hold. That's unfortunate. As sad as that is who's to say which emergency is greater?

They need to hire more 911 dispatchers if they're having THAT much of a problem with it

bcbronc
05-26-2006, 12:07 PM
What if he changed his mind because he realized someone else might be in danger? I guess my whole point is, that if someone is pissed off enough to hang on the horn and hit you with their car, then there are a number of possibilities why that person COULD potentially be endangering others lives.

What happens if that same guy that just hit your car took off and caused a ten car pile up? Road rage isn't something to be taken lightly, and until they create a Road Rage number to call, the police are the ones who deal with it.

You call in to dispatch and give them the information..they call out to the nearest available officer, and crisis is avoided.

I haven't heard of any cases of 911 being busy, or anyone getting put on hold. That's unfortunate. As sad as that is who's to say which emergency is greater?

They need to hire more 911 dispatchers if they're having THAT much of a problem with it


did you listen to the 911 recording posted earlier in this thread? it made it pretty obvious jake wasn't making the call because he was worried about people being in danger. he simply made the call to report the accident.

doesn't really matter much though. personally, i believe if you are not in danger, take the extra time to get a non-emergency number. you feel differently. fair enough.

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 12:11 PM
The 2 hours, I admit were mine. I assumed going to a function and calling later that evening was at least a couple hours. It was reported on NFL Network that he called from home. So, just for arguement sake let's omit the 2 hour obstacle, and re-evaluate our opinion.

Here's a recap.

With police on the way, Jake Plummer left the scene of an accident where there were witnesses saying he was the aggressor. Which, by the way is against the law.

No witnesses on Jakes behalf. other than a 911 call as he was leaving the scene (as it is now reported)

If you guys think that spells victim for Jake Plummer then I am not sure I can make any points that would convince you otherwise.

Understand however that as long as Jake is trashing the fans through the media, flipping them the bird on national television and now alegedly kicking the cars of the fans because he was not treated well for cutting somone off, he will continue to make those appologizing for him look like dumbasses.

Carry on.

greatgooglymoogly
05-26-2006, 12:23 PM
I know you might THINK you aren't in danger, but there are OTHER people in danger down the road.


http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1593_25680_25802-113048--,00.html

What to do if you encounter an Aggressive Driver?
Remain calm and either pull over and call 911 or drive to a nearby venue to call the police.
Give the police as much information as possible.
Be a good witness, not a victim.

and a couple more links

www.tri-c.edu/publicsafety/docs/road_rage.htm
www.nysgtsc.state.ny.us/aggr-ndx.htm

Police and safety educators everywhere are teaching the same thing. If you experience road rage, it's a good idea to call 911. You could be saving some one elses life

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 12:26 PM
I know you might THINK you aren't in danger, but there are OTHER people in danger down the road.


http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1593_25680_25802-113048--,00.html


and a couple more links

www.tri-c.edu/publicsafety/docs/road_rage.htm
www.nysgtsc.state.ny.us/aggr-ndx.htm

Police and safety educators everywhere are teaching the same thing. If you experience road rage, it's a good idea to call 911. You could be saving some one elses life

You dont have to fear Jake Plummer.

If he ever threw a punch it would just get intercepted.

greatgooglymoogly
05-26-2006, 12:28 PM
The 2 hours, I admit were mine. I assumed going to a function and calling later that evening was at least a couple hours. It was reported on NFL Network that he called from home. So, just for arguement sake let's omit the 2 hour obstacle, and re-evaluate our opinion.

Here's a recap.

With police on the way, Jake Plummer left the scene of an accident where there were witnesses saying he was the aggressor. Which, by the way is against the law.

No witnesses on Jakes behalf. other than a 911 call as he was leaving the scene (as it is now reported)

If you guys think that spells victim for Jake Plummer then I am not sure I can make any points that would convince you otherwise.

Understand however that as long as Jake is trashing the fans through the media, flipping them the bird on national television and now alegedly kicking the cars of the fans because he was not treated well for cutting somone off, he will continue to make those appologizing for him look like dumbasses.

Carry on.

How did he know that police were on the way?

So just because the witness was in Mr. Stone's truck, and Jakes girlfriend's testimony hasn't come up yet (probly because she has already been in the denver spotlight and he doesn't feel like bringing her into it again), automatically makes it Jakes fault?

Heres a thought. Maybe Mr. Stone REALIZED it was Jake Plummer's vehicle, and wanted to either get a settlement or get publicity.

We know, YOUR A CHIEFS FAN.

Try to think of ol TrINT in this situation

The Big E
05-26-2006, 12:46 PM
This is much ado about nothing. Oh boy, the other guy's car had a bent license plate frame and $25.00 worth of damage.

Plummer's been in the league 10 years and yes, he's had a few instances where he made bad choices, but it's hardly like he's built a rap sheet.

*Ok, at ASU, he's out drinking at a club and grabs a girls ass.
*He flips off a heckler during a game.
*He drives like a jerk and gets into a stupid spat with another driver.

Poor decisions? Absolutely. But not exactly anything all that meaningful. Just another minor incident overblown by our gossipy society.

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Try to think of ol TrINT in this situation

That wont happen.

Also, I am not sure that the only witness is one in the truck. I understood the witness to be a bystander. Is that not correct?

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 01:03 PM
This is much ado about nothing. Oh boy, the other guy's car had a bent license plate frame and $25.00 worth of damage.

Plummer's been in the league 10 years and yes, he's had a few instances where he made bad choices, but it's hardly like he's built a rap sheet.

*Ok, at ASU, he's out drinking at a club and grabs a girls ass.
*He flips off a heckler during a game.
*He drives like a jerk and gets into a stupid spat with another driver.

Poor decisions? Absolutely. But not exactly anything all that meaningful. Just another minor incident overblown by our gossipy society.

Your post, in short, says...

Jake Plummer is a prick. Big deal.

I agree here.

Old Dude
05-26-2006, 01:27 PM
This whole thing started off as a minor matter. $25 isn't that big of a deal. But now we Jake giving an account that is directly contradicted by a third-party witness. I could easily see this getting blown up into something bigger.

NOLA Bronco
05-26-2006, 01:39 PM
Your post, in short, says...

Jake Plummer is a prick. Big deal.

I agree here.


Yeah he is jerk. Jerks only think of themselves.

Oh wait.....

http://www.pattillmanfoundation.org/found_advisors.php

If you think it's in Jake's character to attack someone, clearly you aren't paying attention.

BTW - what kind of jerk doesn't recognize the Bronco QB when he gets out of the car. I don't trust guys who don't follow football....

alkemical
05-26-2006, 01:40 PM
The big thing is, Jake doesn't care about his image - and it bugs people.

The Big E
05-26-2006, 02:28 PM
The big thing is, Jake doesn't care about his image - and it bugs people.
You are wrong. Jake is very much concerned what Crazywhore thinks.

DomCasual
05-26-2006, 02:32 PM
Your post, in short, says...

Jake Plummer is a prick. Big deal.

I agree here.
So basically, in about a three hour window, you have this equation:

On one side, getting a little pissy and bending a $25 license plate.

In the other side, quietly giving $100K to a charity that helps child abuse, domestic violence, and homelessness.

The sum of that equation, to you, is that he's a prick.

Yep, you're a Chefs fan.

alkemical
05-26-2006, 02:34 PM
let us know how tamarick vanover and bam morris are doing

or maybe plummers check went to fund the derrick thomas children's fund.

DomCasual
05-26-2006, 02:36 PM
let us know how tamarick vanover and bam morris or doing

or maybe plummers check went to fund the derrick thomas children's fund.
Uh-oh, that's going to create a stir. Ha!

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 02:39 PM
let us know how tamarick vanover and bam morris or doing

or maybe plummers check went to fund the derrick thomas children's fund.

They're outta football.

alkemical
05-26-2006, 02:40 PM
They're outta football.


well i guess if the only glory i could get in KC would be to a duan juan, or a big time drug dealer..... ce la vie

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 02:42 PM
Uh-oh, that's going to create a stir. Ha!

You'll seldom see me jumping on someone making fun of dead people.

For folks like that.... when you point it out to them....they dont get it. Like getting onto the dog for licking his nuts. He just looks at you with a stupid look on his face for a few seconds.

Then he goes right back to licking his nuts again.

I try to ignore it.

alkemical
05-26-2006, 02:43 PM
You'll seldom see me jumping on someone making fun of dead people.

For folks like that.... when you point it out to them....they dont get it. Like getting onto the dog for licking his nuts. He just looks at you with a stupid look on his face for a few seconds.

Then he goes right back to licking his nuts again.

I try to ignore it.


You do a fantastic job, you must watch dogs licking their nuts alot since you took the time to reply.

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 02:43 PM
well i guess if the only glory i could get in KC would be to a duan juan, or a big time drug dealer..... ce la vie

Um. Okay.

Are you putting your boy Plummer in with these clowns?

That's a little rough.

alkemical
05-26-2006, 02:44 PM
Um. Okay.

Are you putting your boy Plummer in with these clowns?

That's a little rough.


ahh a 2nd reply.

And still nothing good - NEXT!

crazyhorse
05-26-2006, 02:45 PM
You do a fantastic job, you must watch dogs licking their nuts alot since you took the time to reply.

Sit!

DomCasual
05-26-2006, 02:46 PM
This is a good, unbiased article about the situation. He shouldn't have done the road rage thing, but I don't think he deserves to be vilified for it.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3866434

Plummer keeps driving a fine line
By Mike Klis
Denver Post Staff Writer

For the brave of heart, continue the ride along with Jake Plummer on his fateful, contradictory journey across the busy Denver area last month.

By now, most people are familiar with the road-rage interruption that resulted in a summons issued to the Broncos quarterback. What many people outside the Family Tree charity may not have realized, though, is on that fateful evening of April 20, the incident did not cause Plummer to show up late for his charity function.

"He was right on time," Family Tree president Ruth Ann Russell said.

Plummer's evening was only beginning when he became engaged in a dispute with Doug Stone. After 911 calls were made, Plummer continued on to the Sheraton Denver West Hotel, $100,000 check in hand, heartfelt speech in head.

Just another 90 minutes in the saga that is Good Jake-Bad Jake.

"We don't understand how the confusion over this one story is bigger than how helpful he is to us and the kids we help," Russell said. "We knew he was going to present a check that night, but we didn't know for how much. When we saw all those zeroes, it just blew us all away. It's one of the largest checks we've ever gotten."

The donation will benefit the three-pronged crusade against child abuse, domestic violence and homelessness. Miller says Family Tree attends to 25,000 people annually.

When it comes to well-paid athletes and charity, there can be a perception that $100,000 is little more than wadded up bills on the dresser. And Plummer's $6.5 million in salary and bonuses this year make him better compensated than most athletes. But a percentage-by-percentage comparison would be a $1,000 donation from a $65,000-a-year employee.

Still, what people want to know is, did Plummer reverse his Honda Element (MSRP: $21,725) into the honking truck of Stone, as the police report charged, or did Stone pull forward and bump Plummer, as the quarterback claims?

"That's the nature of the beast. People are going to want to talk about
the negatives, not the positives," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said.

Not that Plummer is some misunderstood martyr in this traffic skirmish. The matter might have been quickly shrugged off as a minor flap had it not trailed Plummer's backhanded flip at a heckling fan during a home game in 2004 and a profanity-laced voice mail left for a local society columnist in 2005.

The road-rage incident was part III in a lengthening outline of how a celebrity athlete should not react.

"It was a learning experience for me as a young coach coming in because you're very competitive," Shanahan said. "You want to fight and you want to compete. Same thing in the stadium. Somebody is calling you names and ... you can't flip somebody off, even though you'd like to. You have to take the high road."

After Plummer allegedly kicked the truck, he returned to his Element. He presented a check to Family Tree, then told approximately 400 witnesses of his generosity how privileged he feels to have never gone hungry as a child, to have always had a home.

When he sees those who don't possess such taken-for-granted staples, it moves him.

"He's really a quiet disciple," Russell said. "He's not flamboyant about his charitable work."

Alleged road rage, followed by a $100,000 donation and keynote address? Apparently, all is possible with Good Jake-Bad Jake.

alkemical
05-26-2006, 02:46 PM
Sit!


Well, you were truthful, you do like to watch dogs lick their nuts don't ya!

DeusExManning
05-26-2006, 04:35 PM
After watching Jakes response I believe him. Even if he did get out of his car, who cares. Come on, we need to lighten up. Put your self in his shoes. This is a load of crap. In fact I like him even more than I did before. I am not a big fan of Jake but the way he has handled the media since the team drafted cut has been impressive.

Cito Pelon
05-26-2006, 06:46 PM
This is a good, unbiased article about the situation. He shouldn't have done the road rage thing, but I don't think he deserves to be vilified for it.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3866434

When it comes to well-paid athletes and charity, there can be a perception that $100,000 is little more than wadded up bills on the dresser. And Plummer's $6.5 million in salary and bonuses this year make him better compensated than most athletes. But a percentage-by-percentage comparison would be a $1,000 donation from a $65,000-a-year employee.

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Good articled, but only a moron thinks that is a good comparison. I'm not calling you a moroon, Dom, BTW. Let's see one guy has $64k left after the donation, the other guy has $6.4 million left after the donation. Stupid comparison.

As for Jake, there's 2 sides to every story. We'll see what happens when the authorities sort it out.

But ya know, road rage is a seriuos deal. If somebody reports it, it should be investigated. There was a guy last year killed two people on I-225 in a road rage incident, and turns out he'd been reported 3 times before on the "road rage hotline." This incident, whoever was the aggressor should be smacked down, and hard.

cutthemdown
05-26-2006, 06:48 PM
i think this all to do about nothing. This wont amount to anything in an era where athletes have been pulling guns and beating dudes sensless in a denny's.