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24champ
05-13-2006, 02:15 PM
Dialing and the Democrats

New York Sun Editorial
May 12, 2006

A D V E R T I S E M E N T

No sooner had the man who ran the National Security Agency for years been nominated to head the CIA than USA Today rushed out details of our efforts to use technical means to find terrorists using the phones. And no sooner had USA Today disclosed details of an apparent attempt by the National Security Agency to defend Americans from terrorists than the Democratic Party and its leading politicians and interest groups went on the attack. Not against the terrorists but against President Bush. "This is another example of the Bush Administration misleading the American people," said a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, Stacie Paxton.

Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts called the program "abusive" and said "Today's shocking disclosures make it more important than ever for the Republican Congress to end its complicity in the White House cover up of its massive domestic surveillance program. When three major telephone companies are supplying the administration with records of all Americans regardless of any hint of wrongdoing, Congress can't look the other way." Rep. Harold Ford Jr., a Democrat of Tennessee, went on Fox News Channel to call the news "disturbing." Senator Clinton pronounced herself "deeply disturbed."

Mrs. Clinton might want to have a talk with her husband. It was President Clinton who signed into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994, after it was passed in both the House and Senate by a voice vote. That law is an act "to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for law enforcement purposes, and for other purposes." The act made clear that a court order isn't the only lawful way of obtaining call information, saying, "A telecommunications carrier shall ensure that any interception of communications or access to call-identifying information effected within its switching premises can be activated only in accordance with a court order or other lawful authorization."
The law that President Clinton signed into law and that was approved by voice votes in 1994 by a Democrat-majority House and a Democrat-majority Senate not only made clear the phone companies' "duty" to cooperate, it authorized $500 million in taxpayer funds to reimburse the phone companies for equipment "enabling the government, pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to access call-identifying information that is reasonably available to the carrier." Again, the law, by referring to "other lawful authorization," states clearly that a court order isn't the only form of lawful authorization possible.
President Bush struck exactly the right notes yesterday. "So far we've been very successful in preventing another attack on our soil," Mr. Bush said. "As a general matter, every time sensitive intelligence is leaked, it hurts our ability to defeat this enemy. Our most important job is to protect the American people from another attack, and we will do so within the laws of our country." If he seemed calm about the latest disclosures, we can't help wondering whether it's because he recognizes that when Americans go to sleep at night, they're less worried about the "danger" that the government is looking for terrorists than they are about the danger that terrorists are looking for them.

This is the issue that the Democrats of the Howard-Dean-John-Kerry era just don't seem to prepared to credit. The Democrats who controlled the White House and both houses of Congress in 1994 showed signs of understanding the national security issues at stake here when they passed the law. Their understanding seems to have eroded since then. It can't be that they feel America faces less of a threat - if anything, the attacks of September 11, 2001, make the case for such programs even stronger. What's changed isn't the enemy threat but the party that now controls the White House. Which explains why Mrs. Clinton is "deeply disturbed" about activities legal under a law her husband signed.
http://www.nysun.com/article/32651

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SteveTensi13
05-13-2006, 04:11 PM
You know it's amazing, the Dems have completely forgotten 9-11! They are literally pretending like it never happened. I have to wonder about the intelligence of the people of Massachusettes who continually vote in that murdering, drunken, bloated waste of life Teddy Kennedy.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 06:26 AM
You know it's amazing, BushCo have completely forgotten 9-11! They are literally pretending like it never happened.

Their preparedness for and response to Hurricane Katrina is all the evidence you need.

Fixed it for you.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-14-2006, 08:51 AM
You know it's amazing, the Dems have completely forgotten 9-11! They are literally pretending like it never happened.
WOW! The democrats now compromise 71% of the American public!!

Bush's Ratings Hit
New Low, Poll Shows
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE
May 12, 2006

President Bush's approval rating has fallen to its lowest mark of his presidency, according to a new Harris Interactive poll.

Of 1,003 U.S. adults surveyed in a telephone poll, 29% think Mr. Bush is doing an "excellent or pretty good" job as president, down from 35% in April and significantly lower than 43% in January. It compares with 71% of Americans who said Mr. Bush is doing an "only fair or poor" job, up from 63% in April.

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 12:53 PM
I don't think just because his approval rating is down, means 71% of the American population now is a democrat. But whatever helps you feel secure about the '08 election.

I may not agree on some of the things Pres. Bush has done lately, but I'm not about to "think" or be a democart. The republicans will just run someone new for the WH, and win again.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:22 PM
I don't think just because his approval rating is down, means 71% of the American population now is a democrat.

Um, I believe the point was to poke fun at the claim that only Dems and left-wing extremists disapprove of the dry drunk. :welcome:

Spider
05-14-2006, 08:27 PM
I don't think just because his approval rating is down, means 71% of the American population now is a democrat. But whatever helps you feel secure about the '08 election.

I may not agree on some of the things Pres. Bush has done lately, but I'm not about to "think" or be a democart. The republicans will just run someone new for the WH, and win again.
oh you Canadians are a goofy lot ;D

errand
05-14-2006, 08:35 PM
I don't think just because his approval rating is down, means 71% of the American population now is a democrat. But whatever helps you feel secure about the '08 election.

I may not agree on some of the things Pres. Bush has done lately, but I'm not about to "think" or be a democart. The republicans will just run someone new for the WH, and win again.

Exactly....this nation is still predominantly conservative....the reason his approval numbers are down is Bush has fell out of favor with alot of conservatives , mainly because of his spending and immigration failures.

Spider
05-14-2006, 08:36 PM
Exactly....this nation is still predominantly conservative....the reason his approval numbers are down is Bush has fell out of favor with alot of conservatives , mainly because of his spending and immigration failures.
Have you had a chance to rethink that loan ?

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:39 PM
Exactly....this nation is still predominantly conservative....the reason his approval numbers are down is Bush has fell out of favor with alot of conservatives , mainly because of his spending and immigration failures.

Whats even more encouraging is the fact that the younger generations of this country are more conservative. I am a college student, and I see this every day around my peers. I'm not too worried.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:39 PM
Exactly....this nation is still predominantly conservative....the reason his approval numbers are down is Bush has fell out of favor with alot of conservatives , mainly because of his spending and immigration failures.

Let's see:

Gore won the popular vote in 2000 (and, as we now know, won the electoral vote when all the votes were counted.)

Doesn't sound like a "predominantly" conservative electorate to me.

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:41 PM
Let's see:

Gore won the popular vote in 2000 (and, as we now know, won the electoral vote when all the votes were counted.)

Doesn't sound like a "predominantly" conservative electorate to me.

Dude, you're still stuck on 2000. Things have changed a bit the last 6 years.

2004.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:42 PM
Whats even more encouraging is the fact that the younger generations of this country are more conservative.

That's some pretty simpleton, "black or white" thinking.

The implication is that a person is always going to do the right thing or come down on the moral high ground just because he identifies himself as a conservative.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:46 PM
Things have changed a bit the last 6 years.

Yes, they have.

In those six years, the dry drunk in the WH and the crooks in the GOP congress have done just about everything humanly possible to discredit your "conservative movement."

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:46 PM
That's some pretty simpleton, "black or white" thinking.

The implication is that a person is always going to do the right thing or come down on the moral high ground just because he identifies himself as a conservative.

Ok.

I just call it like I see it. When I'm going to a large "bastion of cummunism" school in downtown Boulder, CO, a place where you would think most students would be liberal as can be, given where we are, and I see more conservatives on a daily basis. Yes, I would say the young generation aren't like their parents.

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:47 PM
Yes, they have.

In those six years, the dry drunk in the WH and the crooks in the GOP congress have done just about everything humanly possible to discredit your "conservative movement."


ooooohhhh, poor guy.

Yes, conservatism is sure dying down, aint it?

Thank you Ronald Raygun.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:48 PM
Dude, you're still stuck on 2000. Things have changed a bit the last 6 years.

2004.

P.S. Even if you view the '04 election as legit, Dim Son's margin of victory was the slimmest for any candidate in decades.

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:50 PM
P.S. Even if you view the '04 election as legit, Dim Son's margin of victory was the slimmest for any candidate in decades.

Was it really?

Are you counting all the "fake" votes they got?

How about all the dead people who voted?

Or what about the people that even slashed the tires of the opposing parties vans?

Or how about all the criminals who were able to vote?

wait....wrong party. My bad.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:51 PM
ooooohhhh, poor guy.

Yes, conservatism is sure dying down, aint it?

Thank you Ronald Raygun.

Anyone who knows how to read a newspaper is aware of this.

But don't thank Red Ink Ron - thank the boy king and the conga line of GOP crooks (and attendant scandals) that has emerged over the past six years.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:53 PM
Was it really?

Are you counting all the "fake" votes they got?

How about all the dead people who voted?

Or what about the people that even slashed the tires of the opposing parties vans?

Or how about all the criminals who were able to vote?

wait....wrong party. My bad.

Actually, if I allow you all the votes that you claim were denied to Bush because of alleged fraud by Dems and you allow me all the votes that were denied to Kerry due to proven GOP fraud, Kerry still comes out ahead.

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:53 PM
Anyone who knows how to read a newspaper is aware of this.

But don't thank Red Ink Ron - thank the boy king and the conga line of GOP crooks (and attendant scandals) that has emerged over the past six years.
Oh, I did, don't worry.

I even sent them a check to show my appreciation.

Anyways, it's been real LABF. Like always, but I'm leaving now to go watch some porn, maybe even molest a small child along the way, and also cut down some nearby trees in the "Open Space" of Boulder County.

Later. ::)

Spider
05-14-2006, 08:53 PM
Republicans are like Migrant workers ...... not sure how yet . but I will come up with somthing

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:55 PM
Exactly....this nation is still predominantly conservative....

Is that why poll after poll shows that a majority of Americans say they trust the Dems more than the repugs on almost every issue of importance?

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:55 PM
Republicans are like Migrant workers ...... not sure how yet . but I will come up with somthing

LOL

You're growing on me Spider.

Out.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 08:57 PM
I even sent them a check to show my appreciation.

Why do I not find this difficult to believe? :crazy:

DBruleU
05-14-2006, 08:58 PM
Why do I not find this difficult to believe? :crazy:

Because you believe anything you read.

hahahahahahaha! :yayaya:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-14-2006, 09:03 PM
Because you believe anything you read.

hahahahahahaha! :yayaya:

Well, if you were just pulling my leg about sending that check, then no one would be more pleased than I.

Spider
05-14-2006, 09:07 PM
LOL

You're growing on me Spider.

Out.
;D like a wart .